DIY Fire Assay of Gold Ore, Beginning to End | How much gold?

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  • I perform a complete fire assay of two gold ore samples, including smelting, cupelling, weighing the gold bead and calculating the fraction of gold. I demonstrate the use of a DIY analytical balance and a home-designed magnifier.
    Keywords: gold ore, fire assay, cupel, smelting flux, crucible, gold bead, litharge, weighing gold, gold prill, lead button, magnifier for gold ore

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  • @AUMINER1
    @AUMINER1 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Excellent! The instruments you have created are as impressive as the fact that you figured out such a complicated and failure prone process in such a short amount of time. :)

    • @jdeluisa
      @jdeluisa ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree, very impressive microbalance. Obviously an engineer.

  • @surefireKorea
    @surefireKorea 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your 3 kW pottery kiln is impressive. You make excellent use of low cost materials in its construction, yet are able to achieve excellent performance and quality. That, in itself, is the mark of an efficient and cost effective design. I learned something useful here. Thanks for your time and effort!

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice comment, thanks. Kilns are interesting to design and build and much cheaper to make than a commercial model. There are pitfalls, however... -- Dave

  • @MerchantMarineGuy
    @MerchantMarineGuy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is truest impressive work, and very well taught. Thank you!

  • @markanderson3740
    @markanderson3740 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm so happy to have stumbled onto your channel, It's so refreshing to watch somone besides sreetips follow an actual system they've followed hundreds of times before. your assay was clear, controlled, and conclusive. The ones who constantly add new variables like different flux methods between samples are just untrustworthy. thank you for creating content with confidence.

  • @pertinentparadigm1337
    @pertinentparadigm1337 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, you're a genius!

  • @brixtonnabunat1822
    @brixtonnabunat1822 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You made fire assaying very easy and simple to do, I'm so glad that i found your channel, new subscriber here! ❤❤❤❤

  • @ericschultz5413
    @ericschultz5413 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent, straight forward and informative video. Thank you for your hard work in producing it!

  • @eduardbuletsa9485
    @eduardbuletsa9485 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Immediate subscription! 👏
    Did you see a metallic gold in magnifying glass of this ore after you crash the stones?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I didn't look. Next time I will.

  • @gregbilotta2472
    @gregbilotta2472 ปีที่แล้ว

    The algorithm has brought me here and I am pleased with its gift

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha. Yes, we are all guided by the great algorithm....

  • @jeffbybee5207
    @jeffbybee5207 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It seems your cushing and siving would preferentially keep the softest friable part of the sample. Would not this throw off the assay of the ore?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've wondered the same thing. It must skew the analysis at least a bit. -- Dave

  • @criscris5061
    @criscris5061 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Increíble

    • @hieulengotran5093
      @hieulengotran5093 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Money. Workshop. Vietnamese. Asia

  • @arotogtech
    @arotogtech 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wanted to ask your opinion if it js okay with you.
    Outcrops grabbed from on top of the reef on the ground surface fire assayed 0.22g/t and 0.19 g/t respectively. What is your general opinion of this?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would be very low grade and not worth pursuing in my opinion. It does show that the area has gold, so you might want to keep looking. How are you getting the assays done? Good luck with your hunt. -- Dave

    • @arotogtech
      @arotogtech 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@orophilia
      Hi mate. Thank you for your opinion. We'll, I got them fire assayed. They were grab sample quartz boulders from the top of a certain mountain.

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@arotogtech Look for the highly mineralized quartz veins and take samples directly from the vein. Can I ask how much you paid for the assay? -- Dave

    • @arotogtech
      @arotogtech 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@orophilia
      The question is, how do you look for the highly mineralised quartz vein? I just dowsed using copper rods...... do you have any other methods......? You could share a few tips...... I paid $25 each.....

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@arotogtech The quartz should have lots of inclusions of brown / purple / black material. The more ugly and rusty the better. -- Dave

  • @aidanwhite6711
    @aidanwhite6711 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, why cant you use the same furnace for smelting and cupelling?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I could and most people do. The large furnace takes a long time to heat, so I prefer the smaller furnace for cupelling. Why not use the small furnace for smelting? Because I like the larger charge that I can get into the #5 crucible. Good question.

  • @TerribleShmeltingAccident
    @TerribleShmeltingAccident 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    actual flower? like the kind you use to bake bread?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, we just need a handy source of carbon.

    • @TerribleShmeltingAccident
      @TerribleShmeltingAccident 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@orophilia how does the carbon affect the reaction?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TerribleShmeltingAccident The carbon acts as a reducing agent. The lead, in the form of PbO, is reduced to metallic lead by reduction. -- Dave

  • @johnsabatka2978
    @johnsabatka2978 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you get that classifier?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  ปีที่แล้ว

      From Amazon. It's a cake flour sieve: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZRJFYH1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

  • @jdeluisa
    @jdeluisa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting vid. I enjoy your videos. I find it interesting that you use Chapman's flux for assay work. Any thoughts on that? In his book, Chapman suggests that Mg Dioxide can cause silver values to report to the slag. It also seems like more litharge could be beneficial when assaying 100 g of material. One assayer that I have worked with uses significantly more litharge, even in smaller samples. Others have suggested this to me as well. Finally, why not part and weigh? The math calculations may not account for other values like PGM's.

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  ปีที่แล้ว

      You are correct on all accounts. I'm trying to part the gold beads right now. It's another step that needs to be mastered. I'll soon have exhausted my supply of Chapman's. At that point I'll move to just Borax and Sodium Carbonate as the flux. More Litharge requires larger cupels. I've been running some experiments on that aspect and I'll report in a later video. Thanks!

  • @soso.123m4
    @soso.123m4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which size have these mabor cupels?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  ปีที่แล้ว

      The one that can absorb 35 grams of lead.

  • @user-ls7xj8gs6q
    @user-ls7xj8gs6q ปีที่แล้ว

    لكن هل يمكن تركيز الذهب عبر الغسل لهذا الخام ، أو ان الذهب سيهدر مع الغسل

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "But is it possible to concentrate the gold by washing this ore, or will the gold be wasted during the washing?" Yes, in practice we would first concentrate the gold in the ore by fine grinding and then performing some sort of gravity separation. Good question, thanks. -- Dave

    • @user-ls7xj8gs6q
      @user-ls7xj8gs6q ปีที่แล้ว

      @@orophilia thank you

    • @user-ls7xj8gs6q
      @user-ls7xj8gs6q ปีที่แล้ว

      @@orophilia thank you

  • @balajiramamoorthy1476
    @balajiramamoorthy1476 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why you have added iron rod??

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  หลายเดือนก่อน

      The iron captures any remaining sulfur and converts it to FeS, which is easily dissolved in and removed by the flux.

  • @yuhangqian6991
    @yuhangqian6991 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is the cupel produced,India or China?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  ปีที่แล้ว

      I use Mabor cupels. I'm not able to determine the country of origin. -- Dave

    • @yuhangqian6991
      @yuhangqian6991 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@orophilia Mabor cupel is produced from India.

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yuhangqian6991 Thanks!

  • @user-oz7sv8er4c
    @user-oz7sv8er4c ปีที่แล้ว

    Good morning 🌄 my 🙏

  • @SURFEAMORETERNO
    @SURFEAMORETERNO ปีที่แล้ว

    If the ore also contains some silver,where is it?

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The silver is also in the bead but in very small quantities. I try to explain the way I measure it at the end of the video but it might not be so clear. -- Dave

    • @SURFEAMORETERNO
      @SURFEAMORETERNO ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the answer.
      Be cautious of fumes. I recently placed an ore of the Platinum group to dissolve in aqua regia, and was surprised to find Osmium, whose salts are extremely toxic. Luckily I used a fume hood with a filter and handled small amounts.
      My equipment is also "Frankestein's"
      A hug!

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SURFEAMORETERNO Yeah, thanks. I always use a good respirator. Very interesting to find Osmium! -- Dave

    • @SURFEAMORETERNO
      @SURFEAMORETERNO ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting but too complicated to separate the Platinum group metals to be able to refine, especially when Osmium Iridium and Ruthenium are present. It takes special facilities, sophisticated equipment and a lot of knowledge. You believe that Platinum Chloride is toxic until the day you put the whole gang in solution. Things get really violent.
      A hug!.

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SURFEAMORETERNO The world is a beautiful, interesting and complicated place. Un abrazo. -- Dave

  • @aliosmankucukpacalar
    @aliosmankucukpacalar ปีที่แล้ว

    Turksh translate plz

  • @hieulengotran5093
    @hieulengotran5093 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Money. Who

  • @hieulengotran5093
    @hieulengotran5093 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No. Không ráp. Không chế tạo. Bảng in. Money ( ít số 0 : 500.000 vnđ. 100 dollar. 1 cm ( euro ). No. World. Science

  • @myadventure7069
    @myadventure7069 ปีที่แล้ว

    I sometimes thinking why people getting gold expensive way possible

    • @orophilia
      @orophilia  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This just an assay, but yes, it's a very expensive way to get a couple of milligrams. On the other hand, it's one great hobby! Thanks for the comment. -- Dave

    • @myadventure7069
      @myadventure7069 ปีที่แล้ว

      I using chemicals to recover gold

  • @hieulengotran5093
    @hieulengotran5093 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Carve. Khắc. Thêm 144 số 0 : bảng in. Money. Science. World. Workshop. Company. Vietnamese. Asia. Cr. Khuôn. Cu : who. Plane. Wifi