It's quite concerning to see how many people have been blinded by other creators telling you there is no difference...yet these SAME creators only upload in 4K and not HD...?
OK yes there is a true difference from in 4k vs HD, for the vast majority it is not perceptible unless you get up-close. Now for the people that where telling that there is no difference and still uploading 4k content is because in youtube 4k has less compression, while 1080p has a lot of compression and it is noticeable. Those youtubers still record in 1080p export and upload it in 4k to have a better 1080 image. Now true 4k vs true 1080p are really different but you need a big screen and be close enough to appreciate the beauty of 4k. I am with you in that if you see a youtube in 4k still looks better even on a 1080 screen but that is due to the compress image. Another consideration as you mentioned, phones, even the biggest of phones are not enough to perceive that, and the vast majority of the youtube views are done on phone. I consider that for movies or big projects it is better to go with the high quality 4k, 5.7k or even 6k, but for vlogs or tutorials there is not enough difference to justify the 4k bandwidth and space hog that it takes, and the long hours of rendering.
ya, for creators, when you crop, that definitely matters, i think that's obvious and i don't think anyone would suggest that doesn't matter but when you crop 4k, it's no longer 4k (and when you crop 1080, it's no longer 1080), so what exactly is your point? the bottom line is that ***very few average viewers can tell the difference form a normal viewing distance*** and even when more people buy 85" TVs it really won't matter much, most content will be 1080 for years, most people won't notice, and everything will be fine. people who can tell the difference are probably sitting too close to their TV anyway. it will probably matter MORE for computer screens because people are sitting close enough to see the difference
so we're stuck with people buying huge screens for whatever purpose and therefore we're forced to get into higher and higher resolutions. At the end there must be a threshold where the pixel density is so high that we´ll certainly see no difference anymore. So, what to do when we get to 8K or higher? I agree with your premise, but twenty years ago we watched movies in the cinema as we do today, if we would go back in time, went to the cinema and watched a movie with the experiences that we are used to today, would we really notice the difference? I really don't know... Anyway, thanks for this video.
If you viewing 720 and 1080 on a 32inch monitor for sure. But when you viewing 1080 and 4K on a 65 to 85inch monitor the difference is equally as big. In the next few years when the average household moves from 50 to 85inch + monitors, then people will notice the difference. I think most people are comparing 1080 and 4K on small 25 or 27 inch montiors...and most people even on their phones 🙈
Okay, the difference is there, but who is really zooming in 200% - 400% on their video...? Most people don't zoom in on their video when they're editing. Maybe a slight crop on the edges maybe.
I'm on a 1440P 27" monitor watching full screen in 4K. At 100% the sharpness difference is pretty slight. For the 0.1% of people who occasionally crop video at 200% or 400% 4K is the way to go it seems. For reference 1 minute of HEVC-H.265 video at 30 fps is 60MB for 1080P and 162MB for4K on an S21 ultra. Thanks for the video.
Absolutely agree! This is just another clickbait video delivered by a convincing salesman and fuelling controversy. Obviously 43K is vastly better but for streaming it dumbs down and it is not a lie that many people cannot see the difference on TH-cam. Here is a perfect example: th-cam.com/video/_x-u8mUSFss/w-d-xo.html
@@aylalampang6732 that's the thing, why zooming? so a big 4k screen should do it if you want to appreciate the 4k quality and only to compare to a 1080p screen, I bought a portable 4k monitor for my xbox series s and I can't tell the difference with my 1080p regular monitor.
@@aspinia I have a 65inch 4k tv and honestly the difference is negligible. I'm not saying I can’t notice it at all, I’m just saying that it’s so marginal that it’s not like if my TV was 1080 P I’d be missing out.
I get that when you zoom in really close the 4K image is clearer, but in general watching videos (this one included) I switched back and forth between 1080 and 4K and there is literally zero difference.
I assume that 80% of the devices won't show a difference. On my highres 32" screen the difference (without cropping) is marginal and not worth the effort to go with 4K.
This sound more like a argument for 4k camera. but in truth I look at 1080p and 4k TV side by side with the same size screen I can't tell the difference. but I do see the value in being able to zoom in better on a 4k feed.
just depends what you're filming. 4K for Handheld/improv shots (cropping), product shots (highlight detail), and super closeups of models where you want to focus on skin/eye detail. Otherwise FHD is fine if not better. In a film you want to focus on things other than the creases on peoples faces, so 4K gets blurred to bits to look like softened FHD anyhow, to get the film look. Courses for horses and all that.
None of these differences are 'mindblowing' as you put it. The fact that you have to zoom in so much to notice any differences means that 1080p passes the 'good enough is good enough' test with flying colours.
i just got my 1st 4k monitor for my pc im a gamer i remember when my friend 1st got a 4k tv and was showing me monster hunter in 4k vs 1080 it makes a huge difference in video games.
Not a big difference on my 55 inch TV unless watched from 3 feet. The quality of the camera sensor makes a bigger difference than FullHD vs 4k, like an Arri Alexa35 movie camera with a huge full fame sensor vs the tiny sensor on a smarphone - both are 4k, but the movie camera will have better colors and dynamic range than the smartphone. And if you watch a good movie with a good story, you will quickly forget about the resolution.
Of course you are right as soon as you enlarge the picture. If you don't enlarge it and look at it on a normal monitor, you hardly see a difference. Therefore, I own both and mostly film in Full HD if I don't have to enlarge anything and record many hours with different cameras at the same time. For example a concert.
Great video. Here is my take on the issue, a 4K display for your lounge/theater is clearly better than a 1080 display. This is because it takes a larger area and the smaller pixels will have more detail. However, viewing 1080 moving content vs 4K content on a 4K display shows no differences for my eyes, which are good eyes! LoL. I JUST CAN'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
Most of modern movies are 2K. Technically 4K must be better than 1080P. Does that translate into better visual experience? Depends. There are a lot of other factors, sound, colors grading, story telling combined together give you a real experience of a specific video. By comparing the cropped image qualities, it doesn't help all that much. I have a 100 megapixel camera that you will still see blurred details when enlarged to certain extents. And I have seen a lot of TH-camrs showing off their Sony FX6 only to make me sure how unimportant those specifications are. I've seldom seen impressive footage from those channels.
Its not about feelgood or 'lies' its about real problems such as frustration in slow rendering, slow uploading which leads to trasnsmission glitches) and a big increase in expense of equipment when the PERCEIVED difference is probably not that great. Of course it goes without saying that the amount of data captured by 4k and upwards dwarfs HD but it is what people actually see that counts. So please dont use the word lie. Everyone knows there are variables between viewing devices, colour alone is never constant and a major problem is buffering when broadband spered drops due to heavy demand, etc etc. of course 4K is fantastic and vastly superior when see on a huge screen displayed directly from the camcorder.
Right Kay! It’s crazy how often it’s said however the differences are so obvious. After uploading this I went and watched it on a 65inch TV. The differences are mind blowing. You’re so welcome, really glad this helped you.
It’s not about if there’s a god damned difference !… the numbers says there is - can’t argue the math and/or the technology. However it’s all about how far you are from the display - end of. Sit as close as you like until you see the pixels - then sit a little further until you don’t - it’s not rocket science. But the quality of whatever panel and it’s individual quality of pixel structure is most important. On my pro grade 1080p plasma monitor Pioneer KURO KRP-600M which is 60”. I’m able to sit as close as four feet with HD material - feed her UHD Blu-ray I can sit as close as 3ft. For a 60” display that’s utterly absurd !!!. There’s 1080P and there’s Pioneer KURO 1080p. 😂
The point is more of a blind vision test. If you post an HD video clip with segments shot in HD, 720, and 4K, wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Matti Haapoja made a video proving this point titled, "Can you REALLY SEE the DIFFERENCE 1080 vs 4K? When i first watched the video i was thought the whole thing was shot in the same resolution. He proves that the casual onlooker won't be able to tell. If you're a content creator who uses hi res cameras and are all knowledgable about camera shit, then I'm sure you will be able to tell. But your subscribers aren't those video-heads.
I do agree here if you create content that needs to be zoomed /cropped or viewed on a big screen bigger than 55 inches for example and at an approiet distance. This is the same old argument when 720 came out, 'my analogue 625 line video looks great on my 21inch set at 3 meters away'.
4K vs 8K is where things become tricky though, unless you own a Panel bigger than 100 inch, I think theres hardly difference noticeably between the two.
So true, 8K like you say will only make a difference from possibly 100 or 120inch and up. I know people like the "crop" debate, but the issue is, of you looking for really nice picture quality, you can't crop in too much with cheap lenses.
I still cannot tell the difference between my 55 inch mitsubishi 1080i CRT rear projection TV and LG C2 4K TV, there is only a trace amount of difference here. I also guess the image also depends on the display technology being used, like CRT, LED, DLP, OLED, etc., as well as things like DPI.
To be honest higher res footage looks better on a lower display always. 4K looks better on an HD display. But…720 is so low that I’m pretty sure you’re better off putting 1080 on a 720 display. Also, 720 displays usually have low quality pixels. I’m sure the extra resolution would be a waste.
The biggest surprise upgrading from HD (to 2K) was that somehow the higher resolution made me less tired after hours of work. Don't know why but my theory is that my brain 'noticing' the pixelation on the lower res screen had a harder time processing than with the smooter graphics.
Just getting into video. My first job is a full length stage production using a static camera. It seems my Fuji X-H1 needs 2 256GB cards, because a 2 hour video in 4k is huge! You've convinced me that I should indeed invest in the larger SD cards and film in 4K because I WILL be cropping. Thanks!!!! It's all clear to me now.
On a 58" 4K TV when gaming I don't see enough of a noticeable difference for it to be worth it to run games in 4K. It takes so much extra horsepower to run a game in 4K and barely looks any better. I'd rather go with 1080p and run high settings and have a high framerate.
4k just isn't better than 1080. Yeah, the difference is noticeable if you zoom in, but NOBODY can zoom in with their eyes. All you're doing is arguing that more pixels is better... Whether you can tell the difference or not. This video is pathetic man. You're literally showing 2 images size by side with no visible difference... Then zooming in and saying "THE DIFFERENCE IS HUGE!“ it's total and utter BS man
I'm guessing you totally missed the part about larger monitors/TV. That noticable difference when zooming in on a small monitor is exactly what the difference is on larger TVs. A lot of creators don't just make content for mobile devices. For sure if you solely making mobile content and that's where your audience is, film HD. But take an HD and 4K video and put it on a 65inch TV and see if it's still utter BS.
Dude the viewing distance is key, if you remove that from the equation there is absolutely no comparison to be made. It is the very reason why it's possible to print billboards the size of a building with low MP cameras, you’ll likely have to stand far away to see the whole picture anyway. Typically viewing distances are constrained by the size of the device, and usually have very predictable ranges, so unless you are outputting for a specific application and you really need an exact resolution match, upgrading a capable HD system might not be worth it. Of course there is a difference between full hd and 4k (the latter being better, what did you expect??), the question is if it is relevant in your particular workflow and/or viewing conditions and if it meets your budget.
You forgot the other major factor, which is SCREEN SIZE. Obviously you won't see difference on 32'' little screen if you're sitting 2 meters away. Now place side by side 65+ '' sized screen side by side and 1080p will look blurrier than 4k content while sitting in comfortable range. With larger screen size more pixel count is needed to keep details crisp and sharp... Not everyone has eyesight that of a grandma or grandpa.
@@JustSomeGuyLV Read my comment again, I DID mention screen size when I stated that "typically viewing distances are constrained by the size of the device", meaning that what you call "comfortable viewing range" depends on the screen size and the purpose of the output. Obviously 2m away from a 32” screen is not a comfortable viewing range, neither is 0.5m from a 65” no matter how crisp it looks and how good your eyesight is; improve the quality of cinema projectors and screens all you want but watching a movie sitting in the front row will always suck. I’ll tell you more, since human eyesight has limited resolution, there is actually a point beyond which improving pixel density is completely useless (unless you are planning to use a magnifying glass on your displays) so for every screen size there is a maximum resolution beyond which improvements won’t matter at ANY distance.
@@marcop7891 Noone's talking about limited resolution of human eyes, doesn't take a Captain Obvious to understand that human eyeballs aren't microscopes with 100x magnification. So obviously there come "x"K resolution where it makes no sense to go any higher. But as an owner of 1080p tv I can tell you right away that with good eyesight, the pixel density is still too low if you pay attention to minuscule details when watching HD content. If there was 100K for a price of 1000$, you'd have to be idiot not to want that. Who wouldn't enjoy pressing microscope against tv screen to see the actual atoms moving around in actor's skin. But since 4k is what's availabkle at decent price range, it's a no brainer to go with that over 1080p if pocket allows it.
Yes, considering 4K screens are at least 200 box more expansive than hd, it must be taking into consideration when buying a computer and compared to other specs. Plus, monitors are replacable, you can always buy a better one later
I think alof of creators say that there is not much of a difference so that people with cameras that cannot shoot 4k 10 bit do not get discouraged... Also i think when alot of people hear stuff like 8 bit and 10 bit they start thinking their cameras aren't good enough to create anything, so I think it's really just motivation. It's great that there are beginner dslrs have 4k however that crop is just annoying, would you say the 8 bit cropped 4k is good enough?
It's sad that creators are spewing garbage for follower gratification instead of telling the truth. And being honest like I have that if you creating content for mobile of small screens you won't see a difference. These same creators that said 4K is a waste and you can't see a difference are all uploading their TH-cam vlogs in 4k...why then 🤣
I’m looking to buy a ps5 and want a good TV for it. Am I right in saying that a 1080 vs a 4K would not be noticeable? Since I’m not editing videos and zooming in.
@@jacobricard9887 is that true ? I saw a comparison video which only showed that the tu8000 has some extra features. Thanks I'll definitely look into it.
Wow, thank you! You are so right! I just realized that as the TV is bigger, the 4k looks better on a bigger TV. I have been watching other guys and you are the first that points this out.
Beside resolution there is more elements to take in consideration . Size of the screen, distance of viewer quality of video and purpose. for security camera it will be the best 8k so you can cover large area and zoom in to see details , on the mobile phone on certain distance you can not see differences, for watching movie on recommended distance depending on screen size you will maybe see some difference
I viewed the video on 50 inch 4K Samsung OLED TV and I see no difference between 4K and 1080p. The only difference I see is when you show a zoomed in part of the screen and compare them. So, if I’m watching a movie or playing a game I won’t see a difference if it’s in 1080 or 4K. Also, why would anyone need to pause a movie to zoom in that much 😅
How about on a 2021 17" Dell XPS 9710 laptop, 16:10 aspect ration, FHD+ vs UHD+? I do long hours of work online, including evenings and weekends, and lots of streaming of various things, including movies, with many apps and windows and chrome tabs often up at the same time, but it's general home office and home pleasure stuff, no gaming and no video editing, and I'm going round and round about which screen to get. It's not about the cost. I'd love the extra battery life of the FHD+, for I do use it mobile sometimes, though at home most of the time, but not if the picture quality is garbage. I have a 17.3" 16x9 aspect ration Dell Inspiron right now, and I do see glare/reflection, but frankly it isn't terrible, at least indoors Don't know if you'll see this, but I'd welcome your input if you do. Either way, thanks for an informative video.
How can you save a 4k video and get it to play on a device. I have downloaded DVD with 4k , it will not play on my DVD player. Can you help me with some advice
@@RICH_Photography Dude I watch videos on TH-cam all the time and their is NO difference between 1080p HD and 2160p 4K but of course I'm not supposed to believe my own lying eyes but believe you over my own eyes!
Man you are such an underrated TH-camr I really feel bad for you, you are really helping many people but they choose other people you are one of my favorite youtubers
i read some where that..for screen sizes below 100 inch...4k looks same as 1080p when watched at a distance above 6ft.....and its very practical that people dont watch big screens at very close distances....
You are correct, every screen with its size and resolution has the correct watching distance from the manufacturer for optimal results. I think an 85inch TV is around 8ft, at 8ft you'll see the difference between 4K and HD quality definitely. On a 100 inch TV you'll definitely see the difference between 4K and HD anywhere between 8ft and 10ft.
When people say you can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4K video, they are referring to the 15", 17" monitor, or 32" TV, 43" TV or screen sizes like that. Your argument is totally missed the point. Everybody knows that 4K is way better on big screen.
Honestly I think it's going to be good. It seems a little aggressive for me. Perhaps if the HDR was toned down a little bit it would be better. Also it depends on what screen you viewed it, of you can watch HDR content on a 1000nit display then it's great. But you can blast 1000 nits in your living room at night. So I think HDR content is a bit of a novelty for now.
Arey there any full hd tvs ( non 4k) which have HDMI eARC port..? 4K Tvs just give me headache and they can't play sd content smoothly... But earc port gives fantastic sound
I think you actually made the point that the difference between 4K and 1080 isn’t that big of a deal if viewed on a cell phone, iPad, laptop, or 32 inch desktop. When in motion, you are not nitpicking what is in focus on the edges. Shooting video in motion the difference is almost gone. Also, you can always upscale you 1080 to 4K. However, if you are a professional, okay point taken. If you are shooting a vacation to post to TH-cam then yes, 1080 is just fine.
You need a big screen too see the difference cause small screens 1080p and 4K look the same cause we can’t see all the true detail on a small screen. You really need a 55” or above to experience 4K
I came to this video with high hopes of finally understanding the tangible benefits of UHD over FHD, but I've left with quite the opposite impression. Instead of a revelation, what became clear is that while there's undeniably a difference between FHD and UHD, its significance fades in the absence of a direct, side-by-side comparison or in day to day practical use. As someone who uses a 27" monitor at 1440p, I can attest that distinguishing between the two resolutions isn't as straightforward as one might think-it requires a deliberate effort to see. The obvious exception would be Video Games on a monitor, or a huge TV.
I agree with your technical points, well, because math is math, numbers are numbers. There is a difference, but many times it's not worth the tradeoff. But, the debates I've had were mostly with people who think that if they go and buy a 4k camera that all of a sudden they will become an awesome content creator. Honestly, to say that 4K is "better" is subjective because sometimes it's a matter of styling and creative choices. It's almost like saying that digital is better than film because it's "clearer". The argument does not inherently carry merit. If you are shooting a film and your lighting skills suck, your angles suck, your camera movements sucks, your color grading sucks, and your editing sucks, then well, you can shoot in 1 Million K and your project will simply be a holographic nightmare that puts the person's shortcomings in super duper uber hi def.
I love your video. However, my concern is how does the 4K Monitor or TV good when it comes to displaying 1080P content, because that is the resolution I watch for most content.
It’s like if you had 2 puzzles of the same artwork: one that consisted of 100 pieces, and one with 1000 smaller pieces, they still culminate into the same image. Also 4k cameras are typically better, and the zoom is better. Which makes sense. You’d have to zoom in 4 times further for a 4k image to start to blur.
Your comparing both recording resolution and viewing resolution. The 1080p is xMP recorded at 1080p viewed on 1080p The 4K is xMP recorded at 4K viewed on 1080p In this case this would show a huge difference however what is the difference when both are viewed on 4K, are both not loosing quality? 4K on 1080p will make 1080p look bad but if everyone is moving to 4K so will viewing then 4K will also loom bad when you repeat the same experiment...
Hi there, can i ask you please, between a 50x zoom FHD, and a 25X zoom 4k, which one would you pick? Let's say that the needs would be for mainly outdoors? Thank you.
Technically a 2 x crop on a 25x 4K image would be equivalent to a 50x zoom in full HD in distance. And you'll still be left with a Full HD image. The bonus is you still have a 25x 4K option which I think is better.
Money grows on trees. $6,000 mega desktop computer with a power-slurping power supply and GPU to edit things. Sure. Lets do it. Im sure the new solar and wind power infrastructure will handle it all just fine.
What’s the difference between 4k and 4k certified please?!! Can someone tell me. Like when you see the filters for TVs you see 4k, then you see 4k certified?
I just bought a new 65 inch 4k QLED TV , seeing my Blu Ray movies on the new TV in blu ray format is incredible ! way better than any streaming digital channels, I am now looking at going to the next level and buy a 4K Blu Ray player, this means buying 4K movies as well, is it worth the expense, I am told by everyone I ask it is worth it. Whats your advice, do I stay with the awsome Blu Ray or go upto 4K. Is 4K upsaling on a Blu Ray player the same as 4K HDR player ?
I can see the difference once zoomed in, and that’s the very reason why I’m sticking to my 37” 1080p HDTV. I watch the TV “unzoomed”, so there’d be no real visual difference when compared to a 4K TV of the exact same size. It’s all about SIZE, and to see the “true visual power” of 4K, the TV’s gotta be huge (like 50” and up)....that’s the point anyways-big SIZE needs a lot more pixels in order to not look blurry. I don’t need a 50”+ TV in my room, so I’m not getting a 4K TV, simple as that. Maybe one day if decide I wanna go with a HUGE display, then I’d of course buy a higher resolution TV like 4K or higher. Either way, TV manufacturers are at the helm and have more influential power than most people realize.
Completely agree, too small a TV definitely won’t show anything. It’s like when Samsung started making over 4k displays on a smartphone. Pointless. But once you viewing videos on a larger TV it’s essential. Personally I have a 65inch TV and feel it’s too small for our living room. An 85 inch would be better suited, with that said, a 65inch really illustrates the difference between 4k and HD so an 85 would definitely benefit from 4k.
The bit about cropping. mobile phone and fitting 4x screens goes a bit too fast actually. That's a really good explenation, but it's difficult to keep up with all of it and really think it over at that pace.. But yeah, ofcourse there is a big difference between 4K and HD.
Outstanding content and video. Well done. Very professional. 100%, no question, I now am going 4k with all shots on my drone, GoPro, and phone videos. Thanks for the quality content.
Ok tech geniuses answer this with detail please... Ok I have this thing call "mclassic" witch technically is a upscaler but also anti-aliasing too it claims to be able to upscale 1080p to 1440p... So how would this really look on a 4k tv and would you need a 4k hdmi cable
Technically YES..... there is a clear difference however how many time are you watching a motion pictures in still mode to see the wording or edging etc that's what people are saying....
The brand doesn't matter rather the colour accuracy of the display. Also the reality of 4K and UHD isn't really a problem as 4K and UHD is actually just a ratio difference. One is 16:9 and the other isn't the same ratio. However the DPI is very similar. So UHD to true 4K isn't an issue. HD and 2K has the same debate.
When you compare a 400% cropped 4K clip to Full-HD, you are basically comparing 960px to 270px, which obviously makes a difference. I don't get the point (and yes, I watched the part with the bigger screens with higher resolution). It does make a difference when you have a very large screen and sit close to it. But that comparison is just weird.
You are supposed to actually sit quite close to even a big screen, if you look at the correct viewing distance to a say 65 inch TV and watch a 4k video or HD video the difference is night and day.
I usually say to people who say they can not see the difference between 1080p and 4k you have to go to your optician its not the resolution there is something wrong with but your vision
There's definitely a difference between FHD and 4K. I don't even have a 4k monitor, it's a 27 inch FHD but playing 4k on TH-cam is much better than FHD. In fact even on my phone it's better, even though the screen is FHD. So I would deffo prefer 4K but I'd go for buying a great FHD camera than a poor 4K camera. Higher quality footage from a bigger sensor looks better than a small sensor even if it's 4K IMO
4k looks better on TH-cam because the compression codex they use here on TH-cam degrades video quality overall, even on 4k images. While 1080p does take a hit and 4k DOES hold up better, it's because 4k can take the resolution drop and looks less pixilated. But that's really the only true benefit it has. The loss of visual fidelity isn't the fault of 1080p, it's the fault of poor video compression on the site. If TH-cam compressed videos properly, a 4k image would actually hold very little visual fidelity over a 1080p image. The work around that proves this is shooting at 1080p but rendering the video file at 4k. The video quality is still 1080p, but the file registers as 4k. Uploading a 1080p video that's rendered at 4k tricks TH-cam into thinking it a 4k image and compresses the file like it's a 4k image. Basically what you end up with is a 1080p image that retains most of its original visual fidelity when played back on TH-cam in 4k. Again, that's a video compression issue on TH-cam, so I wouldn't use that as your measuring stick as to which is better.
Found this video after I bought a 75" 4K TV to see if there was a difference. So many other videos are just a guessing game like he describes It was kind of annoying because I just wanted a straight up comparison. That said, the difference is negligible, especially when there's a lot of movement.
I always watch movies at 400% zoom to enjoy 4k quality. 90% of movies are shit today but 4k is a thing! 🙃 For sure I can see diffrence BUT i sit 2.5m from my 55' TV. It's comfortable distance for me and from this point it's hard to see diffrence really. When Netflix changes quality from 720p to 1080p there is a diffrence but when it finally switch to 4k I can't see it.
@@RICH_Photography yeah, after that you will say "you need laser correction to see the difference". Its just 5% of difference normal people can see from general view.
now take that 4k and downscale it to a HD size but blow out the bitrate 50-100 and then test the 200% and 400% comparisons. 4k is great for origination but for delivery HD high bitrate is where it's at
Watched on 80" with 4k setting in TH-cam. I don't see any difference, except when I touch the screen with my nose. 4k material seems to be great for video editors, but for a consumer, 1080p is more than enough.
Color accuracy and contrast ratio is more important to the quality of a video than resolution is. A color accurate 1080o video can look better than a 4K clip that isn’t color accurate. Just saying
Agreed, and I don't debate that point, a RED camera at 1080p will be light years ahead of a Samsung S20 filming 8K. But 99% of people choosing to film 1080, have the ability to shoot with the exact same camera at 4K in the same bit rate. The irony of this 1080 and 4K debate made by most bug TH-camrs 2 years ago...they all said you can't see a difference, yet they all filming and uploading in 4K now.
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It's quite concerning to see how many people have been blinded by other creators telling you there is no difference...yet these SAME creators only upload in 4K and not HD...?
HAH! up there with ads for 4k tv` on HD tv on a non HD channel🤣🤣 cracks me up everytime LOOK at the difference its AMAZING! 🤦♂
Thank you. Always have to dig for some real truth
OK yes there is a true difference from in 4k vs HD, for the vast majority it is not perceptible unless you get up-close.
Now for the people that where telling that there is no difference and still uploading 4k content is because in youtube 4k has less compression, while 1080p has a lot of compression and it is noticeable. Those youtubers still record in 1080p export and upload it in 4k to have a better 1080 image.
Now true 4k vs true 1080p are really different but you need a big screen and be close enough to appreciate the beauty of 4k.
I am with you in that if you see a youtube in 4k still looks better even on a 1080 screen but that is due to the compress image.
Another consideration as you mentioned, phones, even the biggest of phones are not enough to perceive that, and the vast majority of the youtube views are done on phone.
I consider that for movies or big projects it is better to go with the high quality 4k, 5.7k or even 6k, but for vlogs or tutorials there is not enough difference to justify the 4k bandwidth and space hog that it takes, and the long hours of rendering.
ya, for creators, when you crop, that definitely matters, i think that's obvious and i don't think anyone would suggest that doesn't matter
but when you crop 4k, it's no longer 4k (and when you crop 1080, it's no longer 1080), so what exactly is your point?
the bottom line is that ***very few average viewers can tell the difference form a normal viewing distance*** and even when more people buy 85" TVs it really won't matter much, most content will be 1080 for years, most people won't notice, and everything will be fine. people who can tell the difference are probably sitting too close to their TV anyway. it will probably matter MORE for computer screens because people are sitting close enough to see the difference
For 99% of people, HD is more than good enough. Even in 2024.
So basically... "You can see ants in its full glory at 4k while in full hd those ants get blurred out!"
I'm not here to see ants tho.
Did anyone notice there was a flying shoe in the background 😂😂
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Yeah bro, It's quite famous these days 🙄
How he do that 😯
I see that bro 🤣
so we're stuck with people buying huge screens for whatever purpose and therefore we're forced to get into higher and higher resolutions. At the end there must be a threshold where the pixel density is so high that we´ll certainly see no difference anymore. So, what to do when we get to 8K or higher? I agree with your premise, but twenty years ago we watched movies in the cinema as we do today, if we would go back in time, went to the cinema and watched a movie with the experiences that we are used to today, would we really notice the difference? I really don't know... Anyway, thanks for this video.
Yes, I confirm, almost no difference. 4k is not really needed unless you need to crop.
To conclude, unless you zoom the video, your can't see difference between HD and 4k😂
To conclude you missed the part about owning a 65 or 85 inch TV...🤣
The difference between 720p and 1080p is so much higher than 1080p and 4k. That's the point.
If you viewing 720 and 1080 on a 32inch monitor for sure.
But when you viewing 1080 and 4K on a 65 to 85inch monitor the difference is equally as big.
In the next few years when the average household moves from 50 to 85inch + monitors, then people will notice the difference. I think most people are comparing 1080 and 4K on small 25 or 27 inch montiors...and most people even on their phones 🙈
@@RICH_Photography but why we should move to 85+ inch?
Okay, the difference is there, but who is really zooming in 200% - 400% on their video...? Most people don't zoom in on their video when they're editing. Maybe a slight crop on the edges maybe.
I'm on a 1440P 27" monitor watching full screen in 4K. At 100% the sharpness difference is pretty slight. For the 0.1% of people who occasionally crop video at 200% or 400% 4K is the way to go it seems. For reference 1 minute of HEVC-H.265 video at 30 fps is 60MB for 1080P and 162MB for4K on an S21 ultra. Thanks for the video.
You are absolut right!
By the way, your video comes up first when I looked up 4K versus HD in the search. Pretty good man!
That’s awesome man! Thanks for letting me know 👌
you just made me realize there is almost no difference- thanks! this saves me from buying a new computer...
Absolutely agree! This is just another clickbait video delivered by a convincing salesman and fuelling controversy. Obviously 43K is vastly better but for streaming it dumbs down and it is not a lie that many people cannot see the difference on TH-cam. Here is a perfect example: th-cam.com/video/_x-u8mUSFss/w-d-xo.html
Unless you deliberately zoom in which no one does.
@@aylalampang6732 that's the thing, why zooming? so a big 4k screen should do it if you want to appreciate the 4k quality and only to compare to a 1080p screen, I bought a portable 4k monitor for my xbox series s and I can't tell the difference with my 1080p regular monitor.
@@aspinia I have a 65inch 4k tv and honestly the difference is negligible. I'm not saying I can’t notice it at all, I’m just saying that it’s so marginal that it’s not like if my TV was 1080 P I’d be missing out.
To the naked eye there's no difference.
I get that when you zoom in really close the 4K image is clearer, but in general watching videos (this one included) I switched back and forth between 1080 and 4K and there is literally zero difference.
On a phone?
@@Mirsab on a 55 inch 4K tv
@@valeriazaragoza375 what about 4k movies?
I assume that 80% of the devices won't show a difference. On my highres 32" screen the difference (without cropping) is marginal and not worth the effort to go with 4K.
Is this 4K/HD video 'a lie'? I dont think so! th-cam.com/video/7tuMw7ThT1M/w-d-xo.html
This sound more like a argument for 4k camera. but in truth I look at 1080p and 4k TV side by side with the same size screen I can't tell the difference. but I do see the value in being able to zoom in better on a 4k feed.
just depends what you're filming. 4K for Handheld/improv shots (cropping), product shots (highlight detail), and super closeups of models where you want to focus on skin/eye detail. Otherwise FHD is fine if not better. In a film you want to focus on things other than the creases on peoples faces, so 4K gets blurred to bits to look like softened FHD anyhow, to get the film look. Courses for horses and all that.
None of these differences are 'mindblowing' as you put it. The fact that you have to zoom in so much to notice any differences means that 1080p passes the 'good enough is good enough' test with flying colours.
i just got my 1st 4k monitor for my pc im a gamer i remember when my friend 1st got a 4k tv and was showing me monster hunter in 4k vs 1080 it makes a huge difference in video games.
Definitely makes a massive difference, so glad you’ve experienced it 👌 enjoy that new 4K monitor 🔥
Remember tv vs monitor difference. Monitor can zoom and edit display tv is output reference. Two different uses and tech specs.
any resolution above HD(720p)is unnoticable on a phone
Not a big difference on my 55 inch TV unless watched from 3 feet. The quality of the camera sensor makes a bigger difference than FullHD vs 4k, like an Arri Alexa35 movie camera with a huge full fame sensor vs the tiny sensor on a smarphone - both are 4k, but the movie camera will have better colors and dynamic range than the smartphone. And if you watch a good movie with a good story, you will quickly forget about the resolution.
Of course you are right as soon as you enlarge the picture. If you don't enlarge it and look at it on a normal monitor, you hardly see a difference. Therefore, I own both and mostly film in Full HD if I don't have to enlarge anything and record many hours with different cameras at the same time. For example a concert.
Great video. Here is my take on the issue, a 4K display for your lounge/theater is clearly better than a 1080 display. This is because it takes a larger area and the smaller pixels will have more detail. However, viewing 1080 moving content vs 4K content on a 4K display shows no differences for my eyes, which are good eyes! LoL. I JUST CAN'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
Most of modern movies are 2K. Technically 4K must be better than 1080P. Does that translate into better visual experience? Depends. There are a lot of other factors, sound, colors grading, story telling combined together give you a real experience of a specific video. By comparing the cropped image qualities, it doesn't help all that much. I have a 100 megapixel camera that you will still see blurred details when enlarged to certain extents. And I have seen a lot of TH-camrs showing off their Sony FX6 only to make me sure how unimportant those specifications are. I've seldom seen impressive footage from those channels.
You didn’t see the difference because you have to zoom in 200x and stare at the edges 😅
Its not about feelgood or 'lies' its about real problems such as frustration in slow rendering, slow uploading which leads to trasnsmission glitches) and a big increase in expense of equipment when the PERCEIVED difference is probably not that great. Of course it goes without saying that the amount of data captured by 4k and upwards dwarfs HD but it is what people actually see that counts. So please dont use the word lie. Everyone knows there are variables between viewing devices, colour alone is never constant and a major problem is buffering when broadband spered drops due to heavy demand, etc etc. of course 4K is fantastic and vastly superior when see on a huge screen displayed directly from the camcorder.
Oh my goodness the number of times I've heard about there not being a difference is insane. Thank you so much for this in depth analysis !
Right Kay! It’s crazy how often it’s said however the differences are so obvious.
After uploading this I went and watched it on a 65inch TV. The differences are mind blowing.
You’re so welcome, really glad this helped you.
@@RICH_Photography c’est juste
yea its like playstation 5 vs PC they say they dont see a diff.. Oh I see a difference..
It’s not about if there’s a god damned difference !… the numbers says there is - can’t argue the math and/or the technology. However it’s all about how far you are from the display - end of. Sit as close as you like until you see the pixels - then sit a little further until you don’t - it’s not rocket science.
But the quality of whatever panel and it’s individual quality of pixel structure is most important. On my pro grade 1080p plasma monitor Pioneer KURO KRP-600M which is 60”. I’m able to sit as close as four feet with HD material - feed her UHD Blu-ray I can sit as close as 3ft. For a 60” display that’s utterly absurd !!!.
There’s 1080P and there’s Pioneer KURO 1080p.
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Still unsure if 4K is worth it for my Channel or not though. So much data. It's hard to believe TH-cam stores all this free of charge!
Well...it’s “free for us” to view and upload, but they take around 40 to 55% of all ad revenue earned by TH-camr’s so they making more than enough 😉
Me watching with my 144p quality: yeah it's soo different
🤣 those super fast internet connections 🤣
720p
144p is the new 8K
Who cares about technology, if you can see the video anyway.
Thumb up!
The point is more of a blind vision test. If you post an HD video clip with segments shot in HD, 720, and 4K, wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Matti Haapoja made a video proving this point titled, "Can you REALLY SEE the DIFFERENCE 1080 vs 4K? When i first watched the video i was thought the whole thing was shot in the same resolution. He proves that the casual onlooker won't be able to tell. If you're a content creator who uses hi res cameras and are all knowledgable about camera shit, then I'm sure you will be able to tell. But your subscribers aren't those video-heads.
I do agree here if you create content that needs to be zoomed /cropped or viewed on a big screen bigger than 55 inches for example and at an approiet distance. This is the same old argument when 720 came out, 'my analogue 625 line video looks great on my 21inch set at 3 meters away'.
Well said and so true, 720 and 1080 looked the same on small screens. They still called it HD ready TVs 😂
4K vs 8K is where things become tricky though, unless you own a Panel bigger than 100 inch, I think theres hardly difference noticeably between the two.
So true, 8K like you say will only make a difference from possibly 100 or 120inch and up.
I know people like the "crop" debate, but the issue is, of you looking for really nice picture quality, you can't crop in too much with cheap lenses.
I still cannot tell the difference between my 55 inch mitsubishi 1080i CRT rear projection TV and LG C2 4K TV, there is only a trace amount of difference here. I also guess the image also depends on the display technology being used, like CRT, LED, DLP, OLED, etc., as well as things like DPI.
Does 4k make any difference on a 720p display?
To be honest higher res footage looks better on a lower display always.
4K looks better on an HD display.
But…720 is so low that I’m pretty sure you’re better off putting 1080 on a 720 display.
Also, 720 displays usually have low quality pixels. I’m sure the extra resolution would be a waste.
@@RICH_Photography you mean, I shouldn't watch 4k on my 720p display phone?
The biggest surprise upgrading from HD (to 2K) was that somehow the higher resolution made me less tired after hours of work. Don't know why but my theory is that my brain 'noticing' the pixelation on the lower res screen had a harder time processing than with the smooter graphics.
Just getting into video. My first job is a full length stage production using a static camera. It seems my Fuji X-H1 needs 2 256GB cards, because a 2 hour video in 4k is huge! You've convinced me that I should indeed invest in the larger SD cards and film in 4K because I WILL be cropping. Thanks!!!! It's all clear to me now.
On a 58" 4K TV when gaming I don't see enough of a noticeable difference for it to be worth it to run games in 4K. It takes so much extra horsepower to run a game in 4K and barely looks any better. I'd rather go with 1080p and run high settings and have a high framerate.
4k just isn't better than 1080. Yeah, the difference is noticeable if you zoom in, but NOBODY can zoom in with their eyes. All you're doing is arguing that more pixels is better... Whether you can tell the difference or not.
This video is pathetic man. You're literally showing 2 images size by side with no visible difference... Then zooming in and saying "THE DIFFERENCE IS HUGE!“ it's total and utter BS man
I'm guessing you totally missed the part about larger monitors/TV. That noticable difference when zooming in on a small monitor is exactly what the difference is on larger TVs.
A lot of creators don't just make content for mobile devices. For sure if you solely making mobile content and that's where your audience is, film HD.
But take an HD and 4K video and put it on a 65inch TV and see if it's still utter BS.
@@RICH_Photography He just watched the first half of the video and proceeded to spew shit.
Why are you so rude? No need to call the video pathetic just because you don't agree
The human eye cannot distinguish the difference.
On a larger screen it DEFINITELY can
Best TH-cam channel/artwork man!!
Thanks bro! Really appreciate all the support here 👊
Dude the viewing distance is key, if you remove that from the equation there is absolutely no comparison to be made. It is the very reason why it's possible to print billboards the size of a building with low MP cameras, you’ll likely have to stand far away to see the whole picture anyway. Typically viewing distances are constrained by the size of the device, and usually have very predictable ranges, so unless you are outputting for a specific application and you really need an exact resolution match, upgrading a capable HD system might not be worth it. Of course there is a difference between full hd and 4k (the latter being better, what did you expect??), the question is if it is relevant in your particular workflow and/or viewing conditions and if it meets your budget.
You forgot the other major factor, which is SCREEN SIZE. Obviously you won't see difference on 32'' little screen if you're sitting 2 meters away. Now place side by side 65+ '' sized screen side by side and 1080p will look blurrier than 4k content while sitting in comfortable range.
With larger screen size more pixel count is needed to keep details crisp and sharp...
Not everyone has eyesight that of a grandma or grandpa.
@@JustSomeGuyLV Read my comment again, I DID mention screen size when I stated that "typically viewing distances are constrained by the size of the device", meaning that what you call "comfortable viewing range" depends on the screen size and the purpose of the output.
Obviously 2m away from a 32” screen is not a comfortable viewing range, neither is 0.5m from a 65” no matter how crisp it looks and how good your eyesight is; improve the quality of cinema projectors and screens all you want but watching a movie sitting in the front row will always suck.
I’ll tell you more, since human eyesight has limited resolution, there is actually a point beyond which improving pixel density is completely useless (unless you are planning to use a magnifying glass on your displays) so for every screen size there is a maximum resolution beyond which improvements won’t matter at ANY distance.
@@marcop7891 Noone's talking about limited resolution of human eyes, doesn't take a Captain Obvious to understand that human eyeballs aren't microscopes with 100x magnification. So obviously there come "x"K resolution where it makes no sense to go any higher. But as an owner of 1080p tv I can tell you right away that with good eyesight, the pixel density is still too low if you pay attention to minuscule details when watching HD content.
If there was 100K for a price of 1000$, you'd have to be idiot not to want that. Who wouldn't enjoy pressing microscope against tv screen to see the actual atoms moving around in actor's skin. But since 4k is what's availabkle at decent price range, it's a no brainer to go with that over 1080p if pocket allows it.
Yes, considering 4K screens are at least 200 box more expansive than hd, it must be taking into consideration when buying a computer and compared to other specs. Plus, monitors are replacable, you can always buy a better one later
I think alof of creators say that there is not much of a difference so that people with cameras that cannot shoot 4k 10 bit do not get discouraged... Also i think when alot of people hear stuff like 8 bit and 10 bit they start thinking their cameras aren't good enough to create anything, so I think it's really just motivation. It's great that there are beginner dslrs have 4k however that crop is just annoying, would you say the 8 bit cropped 4k is good enough?
It's sad that creators are spewing garbage for follower gratification instead of telling the truth. And being honest like I have that if you creating content for mobile of small screens you won't see a difference.
These same creators that said 4K is a waste and you can't see a difference are all uploading their TH-cam vlogs in 4k...why then 🤣
I’m looking to buy a ps5 and want a good TV for it. Am I right in saying that a 1080 vs a 4K would not be noticeable? Since I’m not editing videos and zooming in.
@retr0 i plan on getting a Samsung tu7000 4k uhd for the ps5.
@@shalindelta7 Get the tu8000, it's a little more expensive but the image quality is much better.
@@jacobricard9887 is that true ? I saw a comparison video which only showed that the tu8000 has some extra features. Thanks I'll definitely look into it.
Wow, thank you! You are so right! I just realized that as the TV is bigger, the 4k looks better on a bigger TV. I have been watching other guys and you are the first that points this out.
Beside resolution there is more elements to take in consideration . Size of the screen, distance of viewer quality of video and purpose. for security camera it will be the best 8k so you can cover large area and zoom in to see details , on the mobile phone on certain distance you can not see differences, for watching movie on recommended distance depending on screen size you will maybe see some difference
Hi, and what about if i play 4k movies on full HD tv ?
The best quality videos I've ever watched on TH-cam 😍😍😍😍
I viewed the video on 50 inch 4K Samsung OLED TV and I see no difference between 4K and 1080p. The only difference I see is when you show a zoomed in part of the screen and compare them. So, if I’m watching a movie or playing a game I won’t see a difference if it’s in 1080 or 4K. Also, why would anyone need to pause a movie to zoom in that much 😅
4K is the biggest scam of last decade, dont you agree? And you have an Oled, the best of the best.
How about on a 2021 17" Dell XPS 9710 laptop, 16:10 aspect ration, FHD+ vs UHD+? I do long hours of work online, including evenings and weekends, and lots of streaming of various things, including movies, with many apps and windows and chrome tabs often up at the same time, but it's general home office and home pleasure stuff, no gaming and no video editing, and I'm going round and round about which screen to get. It's not about the cost. I'd love the extra battery life of the FHD+, for I do use it mobile sometimes, though at home most of the time, but not if the picture quality is garbage. I have a 17.3" 16x9 aspect ration Dell Inspiron right now, and I do see glare/reflection, but frankly it isn't terrible, at least indoors Don't know if you'll see this, but I'd welcome your input if you do. Either way, thanks for an informative video.
Thanks for your efforts.. Now its clear fhd is good... 4k is only for lab testing experiments... I will get fhd now
How can you save a 4k video and get it to play on a device. I have downloaded DVD with 4k , it will not play on my DVD player. Can you help me with some advice
I’m on a 1080p ipad/full hd and you’ve just made the icon look blurrier on 1080p
What is if i am filming in 4k and i am than making a 1080 Video to render at the end?
Honest, informative, useful, enjoyable content
Thank you Kal, really appreciate your comment and support on the channel.
@@RICH_Photography Dude I watch videos on TH-cam all the time and their is NO difference between 1080p HD and 2160p 4K but of course I'm not supposed to believe my own lying eyes but believe you over my own eyes!
Man you are such an underrated TH-camr I really feel bad for you, you are really helping many people but they choose other people you are one of my favorite youtubers
Wow thank you so much for the kind words. I really appreciate it! 👊
Promise to keep the good content coming your way.
@@RICH_Photography yes i highly agree, u are one of my favorite TH-camrs, great content, wonderfull infomation and dope sneakers so i love ur videos
i read some where that..for screen sizes below 100 inch...4k looks same as 1080p when watched at a distance above 6ft.....and its very practical that people dont watch big screens at very close distances....
You are correct, every screen with its size and resolution has the correct watching distance from the manufacturer for optimal results.
I think an 85inch TV is around 8ft, at 8ft you'll see the difference between 4K and HD quality definitely.
On a 100 inch TV you'll definitely see the difference between 4K and HD anywhere between 8ft and 10ft.
That is true. thank you for great content.
When people say you can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4K video, they are referring to the 15", 17" monitor, or 32" TV, 43" TV or screen sizes like that. Your argument is totally missed the point. Everybody knows that 4K is way better on big screen.
So true, no idea how people don't understand this.
I think a lot of people try and see the difference on mobile devices and laptops.
What do you think about HDR content?
I'm not that impressed with it.
Honestly I think it's going to be good. It seems a little aggressive for me. Perhaps if the HDR was toned down a little bit it would be better.
Also it depends on what screen you viewed it, of you can watch HDR content on a 1000nit display then it's great.
But you can blast 1000 nits in your living room at night.
So I think HDR content is a bit of a novelty for now.
Much appreciated i never knew the difference between Full HD and 4K
Arey there any full hd tvs ( non 4k) which have HDMI eARC port..? 4K Tvs just give me headache and they can't play sd content smoothly... But earc port gives fantastic sound
Ty for the vid , helps a lot
You're welcome!
I think you actually made the point that the difference between 4K and 1080 isn’t that big of a deal if viewed on a cell phone, iPad, laptop, or 32 inch desktop. When in motion, you are not nitpicking what is in focus on the edges. Shooting video in motion the difference is almost gone. Also, you can always upscale you 1080 to 4K. However, if you are a professional, okay point taken. If you are shooting a vacation to post to TH-cam then yes, 1080 is just fine.
So i must zoom to see a different or what?
No you must watch the whole video to understand that a 65 inch or 85 inch TV in your living room has the same effect.
You need a big screen too see the difference cause small screens 1080p and 4K look the same cause we can’t see all the true detail on a small screen. You really need a 55” or above to experience 4K
So true!!
@@RICH_Photography So you need a big house, too.
1080p in a small house is more than enough XD
I came to this video with high hopes of finally understanding the tangible benefits of UHD over FHD, but I've left with quite the opposite impression. Instead of a revelation, what became clear is that while there's undeniably a difference between FHD and UHD, its significance fades in the absence of a direct, side-by-side comparison or in day to day practical use. As someone who uses a 27" monitor at 1440p, I can attest that distinguishing between the two resolutions isn't as straightforward as one might think-it requires a deliberate effort to see. The obvious exception would be Video Games on a monitor, or a huge TV.
I always shot 1080p and felc lige my image was out of focus but now i see why,4k is a gamechanger
Can u explain that shoe in your back?
I agree with your technical points, well, because math is math, numbers are numbers. There is a difference, but many times it's not worth the tradeoff. But, the debates I've had were mostly with people who think that if they go and buy a 4k camera that all of a sudden they will become an awesome content creator. Honestly, to say that 4K is "better" is subjective because sometimes it's a matter of styling and creative choices. It's almost like saying that digital is better than film because it's "clearer". The argument does not inherently carry merit. If you are shooting a film and your lighting skills suck, your angles suck, your camera movements sucks, your color grading sucks, and your editing sucks, then well, you can shoot in 1 Million K and your project will simply be a holographic nightmare that puts the person's shortcomings in super duper uber hi def.
Art quality and skills > Technology
I love your video. However, my concern is how does the 4K Monitor or TV good when it comes to displaying 1080P content, because that is the resolution I watch for most content.
It automatically just basically drops pixels...any modern day monitor or TV will do that.
It’s like if you had 2 puzzles of the same artwork: one that consisted of 100 pieces, and one with 1000 smaller pieces, they still culminate into the same image. Also 4k cameras are typically better, and the zoom is better. Which makes sense. You’d have to zoom in 4 times further for a 4k image to start to blur.
Your comparing both recording resolution and viewing resolution.
The 1080p is xMP recorded at 1080p viewed on 1080p
The 4K is xMP recorded at 4K viewed on 1080p
In this case this would show a huge difference however what is the difference when both are viewed on 4K, are both not loosing quality?
4K on 1080p will make 1080p look bad but if everyone is moving to 4K so will viewing then 4K will also loom bad when you repeat the same experiment...
thanks
So basically i dont really need 4k screen on my mobile..
Definitely not! Samsung was the first to market unrealistic high DPI on their screens.
My camera shoot in 4K but at 60p only shoot at 420 10bit in APS-C. But in FHD shoot 60p at 422 10bit in FULL FRAME.
Which is a better option?
Hi there, can i ask you please, between a 50x zoom FHD, and a 25X zoom 4k, which one would you pick? Let's say that the needs would be for mainly outdoors? Thank you.
Technically a 2 x crop on a 25x 4K image would be equivalent to a 50x zoom in full HD in distance. And you'll still be left with a Full HD image.
The bonus is you still have a 25x 4K option which I think is better.
@@RICH_Photography Thank you, that is also what I thought.
Money grows on trees. $6,000 mega desktop computer with a power-slurping power supply and GPU to edit things. Sure. Lets do it.
Im sure the new solar and wind power infrastructure will handle it all just fine.
Just doesn't quite justify the upgrade for functional 65 in 1080p. They still have to market those diminishing returns on tech.
im upgrading my projector from fhd to 4k. this shows me it was worth it. even more, because we speaking of 120 inch screen :D
Great info! Thanks.
What’s the difference between 4k and 4k certified please?!! Can someone tell me. Like when you see the filters for TVs you see 4k, then you see 4k certified?
I don't think their is one. just sounds like marketing buzz to me.
Pls can 4k video can be accepted on a tv stations
I just bought a new 65 inch 4k QLED TV , seeing my Blu Ray movies on the new TV in blu ray format is incredible ! way better than any streaming digital channels, I am now looking at going to the next level and buy a 4K Blu Ray player, this means buying 4K movies as well, is it worth the expense, I am told by everyone I ask it is worth it. Whats your advice, do I stay with the awsome Blu Ray or go upto 4K. Is 4K upsaling on a Blu Ray player the same as 4K HDR player ?
I can see the difference once zoomed in, and that’s the very reason why I’m sticking to my 37” 1080p HDTV. I watch the TV “unzoomed”, so there’d be no real visual difference when compared to a 4K TV of the exact same size. It’s all about SIZE, and to see the “true visual power” of 4K, the TV’s gotta be huge (like 50” and up)....that’s the point anyways-big SIZE needs a lot more pixels in order to not look blurry.
I don’t need a 50”+ TV in my room, so I’m not getting a 4K TV, simple as that. Maybe one day if decide I wanna go with a HUGE display, then I’d of course buy a higher resolution TV like 4K or higher.
Either way, TV manufacturers are at the helm and have more influential power than most people realize.
Completely agree, too small a TV definitely won’t show anything. It’s like when Samsung started making over 4k displays on a smartphone. Pointless.
But once you viewing videos on a larger TV it’s essential. Personally I have a 65inch TV and feel it’s too small for our living room. An 85 inch would be better suited, with that said, a 65inch really illustrates the difference between 4k and HD so an 85 would definitely benefit from 4k.
The bit about cropping. mobile phone and fitting 4x screens goes a bit too fast actually. That's a really good explenation, but it's difficult to keep up with all of it and really think it over at that pace.. But yeah, ofcourse there is a big difference between 4K and HD.
Outstanding content and video. Well done. Very professional. 100%, no question, I now am going 4k with all shots on my drone, GoPro, and phone videos. Thanks for the quality content.
Ok tech geniuses answer this with detail please...
Ok I have this thing call "mclassic" witch technically is a upscaler but also anti-aliasing too it claims to be able to upscale 1080p to 1440p...
So how would this really look on a 4k tv and would you need a 4k hdmi cable
Technically YES..... there is a clear difference however how many time are you watching a motion pictures in still mode to see the wording or edging etc that's what people are saying....
does the brand of 4k tv matter to you? also true 4k vs UHD 3840 x 2160
The brand doesn't matter rather the colour accuracy of the display.
Also the reality of 4K and UHD isn't really a problem as 4K and UHD is actually just a ratio difference. One is 16:9 and the other isn't the same ratio.
However the DPI is very similar. So UHD to true 4K isn't an issue.
HD and 2K has the same debate.
@@RICH_Photography thanks seems i saved 100 usd at sams with uhd
When you compare a 400% cropped 4K clip to Full-HD, you are basically comparing 960px to 270px, which obviously makes a difference. I don't get the point (and yes, I watched the part with the bigger screens with higher resolution). It does make a difference when you have a very large screen and sit close to it. But that comparison is just weird.
You are supposed to actually sit quite close to even a big screen, if you look at the correct viewing distance to a say 65 inch TV and watch a 4k video or HD video the difference is night and day.
There’s a difference if you have eagle eyes and can zoom in
Or if you have an 85 inch TV.
I usually say to people who say they can not see the difference between 1080p and 4k you have to go to your optician its not the resolution there is something wrong with but your vision
Truth right there!!!
There's definitely a difference between FHD and 4K. I don't even have a 4k monitor, it's a 27 inch FHD but playing 4k on TH-cam is much better than FHD.
In fact even on my phone it's better, even though the screen is FHD.
So I would deffo prefer 4K but I'd go for buying a great FHD camera than a poor 4K camera.
Higher quality footage from a bigger sensor looks better than a small sensor even if it's 4K IMO
4k looks better on TH-cam because the compression codex they use here on TH-cam degrades video quality overall, even on 4k images. While 1080p does take a hit and 4k DOES hold up better, it's because 4k can take the resolution drop and looks less pixilated. But that's really the only true benefit it has. The loss of visual fidelity isn't the fault of 1080p, it's the fault of poor video compression on the site. If TH-cam compressed videos properly, a 4k image would actually hold very little visual fidelity over a 1080p image. The work around that proves this is shooting at 1080p but rendering the video file at 4k. The video quality is still 1080p, but the file registers as 4k. Uploading a 1080p video that's rendered at 4k tricks TH-cam into thinking it a 4k image and compresses the file like it's a 4k image. Basically what you end up with is a 1080p image that retains most of its original visual fidelity when played back on TH-cam in 4k. Again, that's a video compression issue on TH-cam, so I wouldn't use that as your measuring stick as to which is better.
Found this video after I bought a 75" 4K TV to see if there was a difference. So many other videos are just a guessing game like he describes It was kind of annoying because I just wanted a straight up comparison. That said, the difference is negligible, especially when there's a lot of movement.
whats the spinning trainer well cool
Here it is - th-cam.com/video/Gf3Ngq9RJ7I/w-d-xo.html
I always watch movies at 400% zoom to enjoy 4k quality. 90% of movies are shit today but 4k is a thing!
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For sure I can see diffrence BUT i sit 2.5m from my 55' TV. It's comfortable distance for me and from this point it's hard to see diffrence really. When Netflix changes quality from 720p to 1080p there is a diffrence but when it finally switch to 4k I can't see it.
Once you get that 85 inch TV you'll see a difference 🤣
@@RICH_Photography yeah, after that you will say "you need laser correction to see the difference". Its just 5% of difference normal people can see from general view.
now take that 4k and downscale it to a HD size but blow out the bitrate 50-100 and then test the 200% and 400% comparisons. 4k is great for origination but for delivery HD high bitrate is where it's at
you are genius.... you make sense. GREAT video! Thx
Watched on 80" with 4k setting in TH-cam. I don't see any difference, except when I touch the screen with my nose. 4k material seems to be great for video editors, but for a consumer, 1080p is more than enough.
Color accuracy and contrast ratio is more important to the quality of a video than resolution is. A color accurate 1080o video can look better than a 4K clip that isn’t color accurate. Just saying
Agreed, and I don't debate that point, a RED camera at 1080p will be light years ahead of a Samsung S20 filming 8K.
But 99% of people choosing to film 1080, have the ability to shoot with the exact same camera at 4K in the same bit rate.
The irony of this 1080 and 4K debate made by most bug TH-camrs 2 years ago...they all said you can't see a difference, yet they all filming and uploading in 4K now.
Hi, I was wondering how to replace my working laptop Lenovo Y700-17 (I use it for graphics - I don't play games) with a new model.
But I don't know what to look at, I have already a 27 inch Dell UP2720Q monitor and a separate system unit with Rizen 9.
I need a laptop with only 17 screens, I took 15.6 top-end Apple Pro (it heats up and makes noise, which is just horrible), sold it!
I'm looking at Dell G7 17 (7700) on Intel Core i9 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER.
For me, the power to work with video work and graphics is important and 100% SRGB, and close ADOBE RGB 100%
Budget 3000 $
100% crop and even more? Thats extrem enlargements. Most people are watching on Smartphones. I dont know if 4k really will ever be standard.