I have no idea why he went with 2 massive Genestealer blobs. Or why he didn't put the broodlord and other blob with the mawlock. Genestealers are 10 points each, so each of those 20 man squads are 200 points. the 20 he lost first turn was 200 points of his army gone before they even did anything... Genestealers are a bit shit honestly because they are so expensive per model and are so squishy that a decent turn of rolling from the most unshooty armies can decimate them. They aren't worth it unless you deep strike them first turn and rip apart your opponent before they can get a proper turn of shooting in.
@@matthewcampbell3146 actually I retract what I said there. I played a game yesterday with a blob of 19 genestealers, but i used a trygon Prime to drop all 19 of them 9 inches away from a sisters squad and they did a lot of work. Besides that though i still think a point reduction to 8 points might help with the cost of taking them. I realise now Mawlocks are a lot worse than genestealers, sine they lose the increadible trygon deep strike ability and cant take massive sything talons. But yeah, using Kraken is one of the only ways to make genestealers effective
Mike Phillips You’ve done a great job on them, would you mind telling me what paints you used to do the blue? I’d really like to use it on some of my models!!
All the Tyranid traits have really specific catches that stop them from being useful. Its strange actually because our trait list isn't even that good to begin with and other factions have near identical traits but don't have to deal with the catch. (Like Kronos re-rolling ones, but only if they haven't moved in the movement phase) like I get Kronos is meant to fight demons and all but there are so many factions who get that ability for free... why do we have to deal with a catch to all our traits? In summery, GW hates tyranids...
That Ork color scheme looks amazing! Love the different colored Ork Mega-Nobs because they look like they just used scrap metal for their armor that they looted from their previous victories. Thanks for the video Winter!
Couple tips for using Deathskulls: - everything has a 6++ including the buggies, wartrike and trukk - to get the most from the rerolls the order which you do things is important which I think you eventually worked out, at least for the boss nobz with their klaws. - for the shokkjump dragstas fire their shokk rifles first then the rokkit to minimise any chance of losing out on rerolls (rifle hits on 3+ so decent chance both will hit which if fired second loses you a reroll to hit) - putting a rokkit launcha in boys squads is good way to use rerolls for them in shooting. WAAAGH!
Do Deathskulls benefit from NOT taking boyz? One of their rules is that all infantry gets objective secured, wich I think favors builds with a Big Mek theme. (Big Mek warlord, lots of grots, and lots of oddboyz) Oddboyz and grots gravitate towards Meks in ork societies since they have constant need for their services.
@@TheUrizen I know I am a little late but figured I'd reply, grots dont benefit from clan kultur so they wouldn't get the objective secured, plus hoards of boys are really a must for orks in 8th (in my own opinion of course)
Thank you, Orks and Tyranids are by far the most fun battles to watch. So much reckless hate and hunger. Generally, any sort of tactics go out the door and they just wind up beating the shite out of each other.
Man, those Orks are brutal. Just goes to show why hordes are so good, especially with boosts! Nice Battle Report and I appreciate Mikey sticking with it even after it started to look very bleak. I am trying to get better at that myself!
Good BatRep. If this is your first Ork battle, I'm really impressed with how few DDD or Deathskulls re-rolls you missed. With boys, don't forget to take the free Tankbusta Bombs. You had a few opportunities to toss them and they pack a punch worth saving your re-roll for.
Those who know, know :) “I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”
Best way to combat Orks i'd say is using anything with lots of dakka: Dakkafexes, Tyrannofex with fleshborer hive, hive tyrant with the 24 shots, termagants with the devourers. Hive guard with shockcannons also
Great battle report thanks. I think there was a slight underestimation of the orks ability in close combat, loosing the Broodlord like that was a blow, those things are like glass cannons, but as Winters said, getting into charge range but not getting the initiative on the charges made the difference.
50:00 good idea shooting all the shootas into the carnifex, but it looked like you were in range of throwing some tankbusta bombs from those Boyz too. Lucky blue git for those
Does anyone else feel like winters has just been pouring over the ork codex waiting for his chance to WAGH! love the charisma and how orky this list is. Thanks again winters for yet annother greate batrep
Are Tyranids that expansive to build? I liked playing 40k Space Orks but that was ages ago. Seems troublesome to have that many boys that close up......while you only got 4-5 giant things to retaliate with.
What is the strategy behind holding back the Tyranid reinforcements for so long? Seems to me that it just results in feeding the Orks your units one at a time and they have less turns in the game in which to have an impact... I see no advantage to it...
WINTERS! Kultures ain’t chapter tactics ya git! Literally -all- your units including your vehicles get a 6++ invuln for being lucky! Other than that, love the batrep!
@@mikeyp2332 Atleast that's a precaution I always take or regret not taking. Because they're so fragile. If you can't stick em into combat first round. Hide and protect them
Bless the Maker and His water. Bless His coming and His going May His passage cleanse the world. May He keep the world for His people. Bi-Lal Kaifa! Bi-Lal Kaifa! Dune, fantastic film and book.
@@Dandunu Nah, Mikey P named this particular hive Shai-Halud, its the name of the huge sandworms in Dune. This was the prayer to the sandworms from the book :)
@@Panzersoldat I realised 5 mins in! Ive read em all! I haven't played Warhammer in 21 years but this channel is sucking me in. I couldn't find this comment to delete it after putting it.
Shai hulud for those not in the know is a reference to Dune, it is the Fremen name for the Sandworms of Arrakis. Which are nothing like Tyranids. Which means even though I'm in the know I'm baffled.
That is very good match (and lucky;P) but i saw some flaws that was a bit of a pain, especially if someone tries to learn the rules from your game. one of the examples: when psychic test failed, only one die was rerolled instead of both (the highest was kept). That is already explained some time ago in FAQ and chapter approved. Apart from small flaws like that - VERY GOOD game, pleasant to watch!
Man if it isn't bad enough that I'm now making a house Stark primaris space wolves army, now I want to make a genestealer cult based off the Fremen to go with my Tyranid army.
You probably already got told this but: deathskulls have a 6++. That trukk and the Kustom boosts blasts and the deffkills wartrike wouldve gotten a 6++ even in melee.
First
U is only first cuz u painted ur rat red
ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS
OI YA GIT DATZ A PRETTEE WAAAGH YOO GOT. LOOKIN FORWURD TA DIZ FOIGHT.
Waaaaaaaaaaagh
When did you start to collect orks
"Don't worry, my army's not very shooty either"
*Deletes genestealer blob*
Conor O'Brien exactly what I thought!
basically lied
I have no idea why he went with 2 massive Genestealer blobs. Or why he didn't put the broodlord and other blob with the mawlock. Genestealers are 10 points each, so each of those 20 man squads are 200 points. the 20 he lost first turn was 200 points of his army gone before they even did anything... Genestealers are a bit shit honestly because they are so expensive per model and are so squishy that a decent turn of rolling from the most unshooty armies can decimate them. They aren't worth it unless you deep strike them first turn and rip apart your opponent before they can get a proper turn of shooting in.
@@timeenoughatlast3368 Don't most people take them as a kraken detachment to make them faster?
@@matthewcampbell3146 actually I retract what I said there. I played a game yesterday with a blob of 19 genestealers, but i used a trygon Prime to drop all 19 of them 9 inches away from a sisters squad and they did a lot of work. Besides that though i still think a point reduction to 8 points might help with the cost of taking them. I realise now Mawlocks are a lot worse than genestealers, sine they lose the increadible trygon deep strike ability and cant take massive sything talons. But yeah, using Kraken is one of the only ways to make genestealers effective
"I've got an injured nob" Winters SEO 2019
@Right of the crazed left but not quite right wing Yep, ork sex is rough :P
got three mountains yet chum?
Oh mighty Shai-Hulud
Keeper of balance
Bless the Maker and His water
Bless the coming and going of Him
May His passage cleanse the world.
Bi-lal kaifa!
(Beat me to it)
He who controls the dice controls the universe
@@simplygreen5832 The dice must flow!
Blue within blue
WOT IZ YOU GITZ DOIN' IN ME SWAMP?
shrog?
ORKS HAVE LAYERS!
*Forces of Chaos sit back with a bucket of popcorn and bag-o-skittles while they enjoy the carnage*
*Forces of chaos panicking when Murfys Waaaghhh becomes the next Anti-Demon Waaaggghhh
"They waagh all night to get lucky!" - Daft Punk
I like
Daft gitz
That may be one of the coolest looking nid armies I have ever seen. Well done my friend.
Trevor Christensen thanks dude! 😁👍🏻
Mike Phillips You’ve done a great job on them, would you mind telling me what paints you used to do the blue? I’d really like to use it on some of my models!!
It’s a base of incubi darkness, then thick highlight with kabalite green and then a thinner highlight of sybarite green.
Mike Phillips cheers man 😀
same for the orks actually, nice paint job
"Boom-Dakka Snazz Wagon." Paul would be proud of that name, Winters.
Wait, just to confirm, you do know that is the name of the model. Pls dont woosh me
Hate to be that guy but that's the canon name of the model not his own name
Told the boys when they're close to the banner to fight harder 👌 lmao...so Ork
The lucky trait for deathskulls is far more effective than any of the tyranid army traits. It makes a real difference.
All the Tyranid traits have really specific catches that stop them from being useful. Its strange actually because our trait list isn't even that good to begin with and other factions have near identical traits but don't have to deal with the catch. (Like Kronos re-rolling ones, but only if they haven't moved in the movement phase) like I get Kronos is meant to fight demons and all but there are so many factions who get that ability for free... why do we have to deal with a catch to all our traits?
In summery, GW hates tyranids...
That Ork color scheme looks amazing! Love the different colored Ork Mega-Nobs because they look like they just used scrap metal for their armor that they looted from their previous victories.
Thanks for the video Winter!
Mikey P making the minecraft *takes damage* OOF every 5 seconds is exactly what I would be doing against all those choppas
Me Just Finishing Watching The Cadian Guardsmen Vs Tyranid Video And Seeing This:
Ah sh*t, here we go again.
Astra Militarum vs Tyranids is one of the best videos Winter SEO has produced. Keep asking him to make more so we get some love!
Winters doing orks now? Niiiiiiice. Love your content as always, cant wait to have this as BG noise while I do my own orks
Couple tips for using Deathskulls:
- everything has a 6++ including the buggies, wartrike and trukk
- to get the most from the rerolls the order which you do things is important which I think you eventually worked out, at least for the boss nobz with their klaws.
- for the shokkjump dragstas fire their shokk rifles first then the rokkit to minimise any chance of losing out on rerolls (rifle hits on 3+ so decent chance both will hit which if fired second loses you a reroll to hit)
- putting a rokkit launcha in boys squads is good way to use rerolls for them in shooting.
WAAAGH!
Do Deathskulls benefit from NOT taking boyz? One of their rules is that all infantry gets objective secured, wich I think favors builds with a Big Mek theme. (Big Mek warlord, lots of grots, and lots of oddboyz)
Oddboyz and grots gravitate towards Meks in ork societies since they have constant need for their services.
@@TheUrizen I know I am a little late but figured I'd reply, grots dont benefit from clan kultur so they wouldn't get the objective secured, plus hoards of boys are really a must for orks in 8th (in my own opinion of course)
@@ethanmartin8434 grots are still troops for the obsec
boyz aren't too great in 500 pt lists
"May his passage cleanse the world." Those who know, know. :D
Awesome video, as always. Lovely armies. Keep doing a good job.
I'm not racist but... all tyranids look alike.
How dare you insult tyranids, THEY WILL STRIKE YOUR NEXT!
Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave
Warhammer 40k, the only universe where xenophobia is HIGHLY TOLERATED dont worry
Lol yeah
puppy lol I would like to see them try
Shai Hulud are not just a great Tyranid force, they are also a great hardcore band from America... oh and also Giant worms :D
Joe named after the giant worms though. 😎
Both of those armies are beautiful!
The paint style of the orks is stunning to me.
Thank you, Orks and Tyranids are by far the most fun battles to watch. So much reckless hate and hunger. Generally, any sort of tactics go out the door and they just wind up beating the shite out of each other.
Da lucky blue gitz always get a 6+ save... including trukks! Nice to see the orks on the channel
Lot's of Boys? *Laughs in 90 Boyz Minimum*
Actually it is many minimum in ork
"How many Orks is dere?"
"Lots, Boss."
Shai Hulud - the sandworm god, the maker. Nice Dune reference. Those who know, know.
"First time playin orks", choppers at the front, dakka at the back, CHARGE! Any boys not in punching range after turn 2 are just reinforcements :D
Love the name "Shai-hulud" for Tyranids 👌 Imagining the weirdboy shouting "We've got wormsign!" at the beginning of combat
"You don't want 20 boys in your back passage." eeeeeyyyyyyyy I see what you did there
now you have orks,
I would like to see your lucky orks verse say hi paul's Yellow orks
Man, those Orks are brutal. Just goes to show why hordes are so good, especially with boosts! Nice Battle Report and I appreciate Mikey sticking with it even after it started to look very bleak. I am trying to get better at that myself!
I see you are really enjoying the orks, winters, and I have to say it's fun to see you play them
"I'm Salamanders and Iron Warriors at the same time but also my vehicles have it." *cries in Space Marine*
all of my infantry, bikers and dreadnoughts get army bonus instead of only half. cries in genestealer cult.
You really must have a match against Paul's Bad Moons with your new orks. Would be a beautiful thing.
Would love too see!
Good BatRep. If this is your first Ork battle, I'm really impressed with how few DDD or Deathskulls re-rolls you missed. With boys, don't forget to take the free Tankbusta Bombs. You had a few opportunities to toss them and they pack a punch worth saving your re-roll for.
Great game. Both armies look amazing. I really like that ork list. Also we need a "and re-roll one dice 'caus I'm lucky" drinking game
Well clearly now you've got to make a Genestealer cult army called "Muad'dib's fighers" , Mikey P.
Madhouse Wargaming Cooooollll!!!
Cant wait to watch this! Amazing table and great looking armies.
Those who know, know :)
“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”
Orks vs. Tyranids. Fighting over mushrooms.
Love these matches! Such good sportsmanship both ways
Great game! both armies look incredible :-) WAAAAAGGHHHHH!
I'm calling your center building there the Castle of Orky Love, cause it's got a bit that looks like a pink heart over the door :D
SHAI HULUD! SHAI HULUD! THE GREAT WORM COMES!
Cheers to the nids for not conceding. Much appreciated from orks. WAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!
Two massive forces of a greentide and a swarm of bugs. Now this. . .This will be interesting
I really like the paint job on your boyz. kudos!
Love the Orks being played! More of this, please!
In this video, you can watch a person being dice rolled to death.
maxpowerdup yeah that’s pretty much how it felt! 😂
As a 'Nids player, I very much enjoy charging genestealers into everything turn one and then burying an opponent in rolled dice.
Get on! Lovely to see the Boyz smash some bugs. Mikey P he who charges first smash da most. Good effort.
Nothing more impressive than a freshly shaved scalp.
andy shattuck 😉
Oh yes winters with orks like the sound of this. WAAARGGHHH
dis aint no battle report dis is reel fightin'!
Congrats on your first win with the Waaagh!
Best way to combat Orks i'd say is using anything with lots of dakka: Dakkafexes, Tyrannofex with fleshborer hive, hive tyrant with the 24 shots, termagants with the devourers. Hive guard with shockcannons also
Love seeing horde armies going at it
The Boyz had a good time. Krumpin the bugs was a good warm up for when the rest of the Hive Fleet arrives.
Finally, Winters is playing a "proppa armee!"
Great battle report thanks. I think there was a slight underestimation of the orks ability in close combat, loosing the Broodlord like that was a blow, those things are like glass cannons, but as Winters said, getting into charge range but not getting the initiative on the charges made the difference.
My favourite matchup! Hell yes!
Same. Nice to see a game with no Humans for a change.
Happy to oblige! 😎
im starting to learn about the lore and this is the fist time i see a game and im loving it
Nice battle report as always!!
Finally you get to try out your orks! Hope you enjoyed them!
What an awesome slaughter! Orks vs Tyranids very cool
What to do on a saturday? Ah look a new winters battlereport, and its orks. Saturday sorted!
50:00 good idea shooting all the shootas into the carnifex, but it looked like you were in range of throwing some tankbusta bombs from those Boyz too. Lucky blue git for those
And again at 1:07:00. Those things hurt and they're free to take
The Orks were great. Hope to see them more on the channel!
Orcs are so damn good right now. Love you Winters
And da WAAAGH begins!
the innuendo is strong this game - I love it
I really like the content of your channel, I missed this report a while ago, but honestly Winters... We know they're lucky. 😂 We know.
“I’ve got an injured Nob” 😂😂😂😂
Nice bat rep. I like your friend, he’s cool :)
Critical Thinker 😘
Not played since 4th Ed. but I am coming back.. Fun to watch... Some good Ork shooting there..
Always fun watching the locals of Glasgow fight the local infestation
Great battle, loved it!
Does anyone else feel like winters has just been pouring over the ork codex waiting for his chance to WAGH!
love the charisma and how orky this list is. Thanks again winters for yet annother greate batrep
Lol he was much closer than usual
Man, these miniatures are amazing
Are Tyranids that expansive to build? I liked playing 40k Space Orks but that was ages ago.
Seems troublesome to have that many boys that close up......while you only got 4-5 giant things to retaliate with.
Summon the Kwisatz Haderach - Muad'dib and those tyranids will stop dead.
Or do that crazy worm-dance they did when he drank the Water of Life.
What is the strategy behind holding back the Tyranid reinforcements for so long? Seems to me that it just results in feeding the Orks your units one at a time and they have less turns in the game in which to have an impact... I see no advantage to it...
WINTERS! Kultures ain’t chapter tactics ya git! Literally -all- your units including your vehicles get a 6++ invuln for being lucky!
Other than that, love the batrep!
OKAY!
Shai'hulud, may his passing cleanse the world....
Congratulations on winning your first ever win with your Orks first ever battle ;)
Hardest drinking game ever. Take a shot everytime he says LUCKY. Lose after 5 minutes
this is like playing with the worlds most expensive army men
Orks vs Tyranids ! Yes ! just a big ol swarm of some of the ruffest boyz around !
How does Battleforged army (3cp) + Battalion (3cp) + Spearhead (1cp) add up to 9cp?
Battalions get 5 CP now. It's in the FAQ or Chapter Approved
I really like that tyranid colour scheme
bendebec thanks pal!
BUGZ! BOIL EM', KRUMP EM', STIKK EM' IN A STU'! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHG!!!
Whatever you do. Always catalyst your genestealers.
Christoffer Hellgren yeah that’s probably a really good rule I should try and remember! 😂
@@mikeyp2332 Atleast that's a precaution I always take or regret not taking. Because they're so fragile. If you can't stick em into combat first round. Hide and protect them
Hey winter SEO where do you get your objective markers and your green markers from I can’t find them anywhere
Bless the Maker and His water.
Bless His coming and His going
May His passage cleanse the world.
May He keep the world for His people.
Bi-Lal Kaifa!
Bi-Lal Kaifa!
Dune, fantastic film and book.
Error, think u commented on the wrong video mate.
@@Dandunu Nah, Mikey P named this particular hive Shai-Halud, its the name of the huge sandworms in Dune. This was the prayer to the sandworms from the book :)
@@Panzersoldat I realised 5 mins in! Ive read em all! I haven't played Warhammer in 21 years but this channel is sucking me in. I couldn't find this comment to delete it after putting it.
😎😎😎
Shai hulud for those not in the know is a reference to Dune, it is the Fremen name for the Sandworms of Arrakis. Which are nothing like Tyranids. Which means even though I'm in the know I'm baffled.
Bless the Maker and His water
Bless the coming and going of Him
May His passage cleanse the world
This is the most British tabletop game I've ever seen.
Loving the new army Winters!! 👍👍👍
That is very good match (and lucky;P) but i saw some flaws that was a bit of a pain, especially if someone tries to learn the rules from your game.
one of the examples: when psychic test failed, only one die was rerolled instead of both (the highest was kept). That is already explained some time ago in FAQ and chapter approved.
Apart from small flaws like that - VERY GOOD game, pleasant to watch!
Man if it isn't bad enough that I'm now making a house Stark primaris space wolves army, now I want to make a genestealer cult based off the Fremen to go with my Tyranid army.
Adam Whiteman you’re welcome!
You probably already got told this but: deathskulls have a 6++. That trukk and the Kustom boosts blasts and the deffkills wartrike wouldve gotten a 6++ even in melee.
I always like a Winters SEO Battle Report.
Murphy's Waaagh! Amazing.