Do Christian converts vs Muslim reverts , I feel the discussion would be more rounded as both have seen both sides of the coin And give thier perspective in the practice of both religions
Then you don’t understand their bias. The point is there is only 1 entity that’s responsible for the creation of this universe and everything in it. The way we serve “Him” or reference that entity is the concept of religion. If we have different entities that created the earth we would have more than 1 earth. That’s what they mean by we serve the same God. It’s like looking at an Elephant from only the front you can see only the head, if you look at it from the back you can only see the tail. That doesn’t make the Elephant a donkey. I hope you understand now.
It breaks my heart that many Christians cannot defend the faith. Many Christians do not even understand the gospel and when we come out, it now looks we don’t know what we are saying. This should be a wake up call to every believer. Study the word and rightly divide the Word of truth!!! Not just for yourself but to be able to teach others too. How can you separate Jesus from the creator? Oh please 😭😭
That's why the West is failing because we have forgotten ourove for God and He's precious son Jesus if many Christians were devoted as Judaism and Isalm followers the West wouldn't be crumbling we must humble ourselves and go back to Jesus
It should not break your heart when the essence of your faith was never fully authorised around the 3rd or 4th century. I don't think christians or jews even worship the same God.
@@arthurmorgan4942 Islam is just dangerous bootleg christianity. Christianity is just bootleg Judaisim. Judaisim is just a knock off ancient polytheistic Isrealitic religion wearing a dress pretending to be monotheistic.
@@arthurmorgan4942 😂 you act as if God shook when man "seemed it right" for faith to be authorized (by man), according to you and your source(s) in the 3rd or 4th century. 😂 God laughs at those who think by history and intellect alone they have a defense in who He is and the work he does through, for and with His people, can be reasoned through human understanding. From the beginning of time (that means prior to the 3rd and 4th century) He was, IS and forever will be, God. He is "Faith". No one can authorize Him. The nerve of humans.
All of these people except the young Christian fellow are very biased toward their faith…. But pastor rock almost made me cry when he said that because those words indicate that he actually believes that the Muslim man can still make it
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
Esther nailed it by proving we don't serve the same god. The Christian GOD is triune in nature, hence we acknowledge the divinity and LORDship of CHRIST (PHILIPPIANS 2:9-11).
@@kantui100 nope you’ll give me many verses where your church has manipulated the meaning and convinced you to believe it’s related to Jesus stating he’s god.
@@kantui100 at the end of the day, most Christians didn’t believe Jesus was god before all of the Roman councils hundreds of years after his departure from earth. Council of nicea included. You allowed a Roman government…who was persecuting Christians beforehand…decide what your beliefs were gonna be lol.
I have a feeling this video is going to be pointless. It's like asking people to debate why they think spicy food is better than sweet food. At the end of the day, the only answer you will get is trust me bro
Educated theologians have states that Abrahamic religion are not based on factual occurrence( the exodus& Moses had nothing to do with the Egypt and there’s no collection of him in history.) These religions have proven to be untrue in its factual depiction. No one wants listen to arguement of hear-say when there is factual evidence represented.
I'm a Christian and do not believe we serve the God; but the Christians saying they believe we are serving the same God with Muslims while saying they would go to hell in this is contradicting, cause if they claim are serving the same God why will they go to hell.
Christians believe Jesus is the way to the father.. Muslims don't, that is why Christians say they will go to hell. The reason why Christians and Muslims are said to worship the same God is because they believe in the God of "Abraham".
We are serving God. Causes allah means God and not any other God these people don’t even know about Christianity and Islamic religion they just speaking out of their nigerian knowledge 😂
@@ololadesuberu4341 Well they don't know that their religions is just the scam version of Jewdaism which is also a scam version the ancient Israelite pagan religions of El or Elohim. Elohim being "father of the gods". Its even in the name of Isra*el*.
Each Christian has their own idea of what is true. Thats by necessity, there is no objective way to determine who is right or wrong in matters of faith. Anyone can find their reasoning to be correct, and there is no objective way to mediate that. Arguing which religion is correct is like arguing which Harry Potter is the best book.
You guys clearly brought ill prepared people to discuss such delicate topic! Religion is more theological than street discourse!! How many of them have read and properly understood both books of each religion?
That's right. Allah is not God, because we all know that the Jews were God's chosen people. There was no Muslim before Mohammed created that religion, he mixed Christian stories with pagan rituals.
@@sholay706 The Jews are just yet to leave their delusional idea that Christ isn't the promised Messiah. The Jews believe in the same God as the Christians. But the problem is they're still living the old convenant, regarding holy Abraham and Moses and they do not believe in Christ as the Messiah. So their worship isn't full, because it is he that believes in CHRIST JESUS that shall not perish, so says the Holy Bible. Whereas, Muslims story is a whole different ball game. They acknowledge Christ as only a prophet, no saviour, no redemption, no death no resurrection and Mohamed to them is a greater personality than Christ Himself. Great error
@@sholay706 The Jews worship same God as the Christians, but imperfectly. Why? Because they are yet to leave the delusional idea that Christ Jesus isn't the promised Messiah, they still cling to the old convenant, regarding holy Abraham and Moses(which were people of God). It is he who believes in CHRIST JESUS (not anyone else) that'll not perish. God perfects His convenant with man by the coming of Christ. So what is the point of you adoring the Father when you still keep malice with the Son? Moreover, Muslims don't acknowledge they'd be a Messaiah in the first place, there would be a death, a redemption, a resurrection, they prioritize their Mohammed over the Christ whom they regard as only "one of those prophets", no blessed Trinity, nothing... Our God is not a God of confusion. If you don't believe in the son and all he suffered for us, then you're in error. Just as Jehovah's witnesses aren't fully Christians as they may seem, because they do not believe in the Blessed Trinity. Error. Lemme not even go there...😌
@annabelenu1964 lol the jews dont worship Jesus. Christian worship a man Jesus who died. The God of the jews and Muslims does not die and he is everliving. Go ask a Rabbi if you worship the same God and he would say no
It is possible the we worship the same God. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all Abrahamic religions. Meaning we worship the God of Abraham. Where there are discrepancies with how we worship and understand that God. Its a fact that the God of these three religions is the God of Abraham and therefore the same God.
@@realtalkwithphil Yeahhh, cuz in Islam God (Allah) is specifically highlighted in the concept of Islamic monotheism (meaning Oneness, none other than One True God), and in Christianity, there's the Trinity (meaning three characters in One God, wherein the Son, according to the Christians becomes the Father, that's why some say "Jesus is God"). So if we put this on a theological scale, there's actually no comparison, cuz one is Trinity (literally meaning three) and one is Monotheism (literally meaning one). Definitely, not the same God being worshipped in both religions. And if we even want to say that two religions believe and worship the same God, I'd honestly rather say that's Islam and Judaism, not Christianity. (As per Abrahamic religions naw)
@@azeezatazeezzzYes,we are not worshipping the same God…The God we know as Jews and Christians is a father…but Mohammed comes 600 years later with his religion that says Allah is a father to no one,and you can only come to him as a slave,meaning the highest form of relationship you can have with him is that of master and slave which contradicts with the God of the Torah and gospels…This alone makes Islam not an Abrahamic faith
As a Muslim, these conversations are so draining. Let's all just have our beliefs and have respect for one another. If there are those that want to change their religion then that's fine. This is the only way i see us moving forward and that's respect.
I disagree, please research your religion by actively reading the scriptures. The Koran is not that long. The Hadiths are repetititve. It's available in English online. Be honest with yourself. You will realize there a lot of issues with this religion, that you were lied to and followed a very bad man. The Muslims in this video lied, especially the man. The woman probably doesn't know, but the man lied.
I disagree, If you someone is headed to hell wouldn’t you want to tell them about what your book says ? If someone house is on fire and they are sleep wouldn’t you want to come and save them, wake them up?
@@themadridstand also why does it say in Quran to fight Jews and Christians for their beliefs ? If Allah is all seeing all knowing , wouldn’t he have seen that Christians and Muslims can co exist with each other with no fighting ?
Sis ate him up with that water analogy!! Replayed it twice cause I'm definitely using that. These Christians are really good at explaining the belief system thats for sure!
We still do not understand with water analogy cuz you can't have ice at the same time when water is in Liquid form... Water in the liquid form has to cease being liquid before it can form ice but Father son and Holy Spirit exists without any of them ceased before other can exist, so it doesn't add up. Even doctors in divinity found it so difficult so explain the concept of Trinity that will go inline with normal sense...the only thing they will end up it is is a mystery you cannot understand. A sane person can never understand Trinity unless you change to the state of insanity.
🤦♂10:10 "for god to help us he HAD to take human form. he had to feel human feelings... he HAD to feel pain". This is absolute bonkers! God is OMNIPOTENT and OMNISCIENT. God doesn't need to become weak or lower himself. Allahu Akbar! God is GREATER than all of that! God encompasses the entirety of creation with his knowledge and power.
Study the evidence bro. The problem Jubilee makes is the same problem CRUISE is making here. These people with an exception of the Muslim cleric are not qualified to be conversing about complex matters such as this. Skilled apologists n polemicists should be included in the panel, else no one will actually learn anything.
Religion can be a sensitive and personal topic, and debating it can be complex and potentially divisive. While discussing and exploring different beliefs and perspectives can be valuable, it's essential to approach these conversations with respect, empathy, and open-mindedness. Debating religion can be beneficial when: 1. Done respectfully, without aiming to "win" or "convert" others. 2. Focusing on understanding different perspectives and beliefs. 3. Exploring the historical, cultural, and social contexts of religions. However, debates can be harmful when they: 1. Involve proselytizing or trying to convince others of a single "truth." 2. Disrespect or mock others' beliefs. 3. Overlook the personal and emotional connections people have with their faith. Remember, everyone has the right to their beliefs, and respectful dialogue can foster greater understanding and empathy.
I believe that individuals tend to adhere to the religion they were raised in, whether it's Islam, Christianity, or any other faith, because it's passed down from their parents and ingrained in their upbringing. Therefore, instead of engaging in religious arguments, I advocate for being a good person regardless of religious affiliation. Our environment shapes our beliefs, so let's choose to live a righteous life regardless of the specific religion we follow. The important thing for me is be a better person and enjoy life......
12:50 that question of "why is Prophet Muhammad not mentioned in the Bible" just proved an assumption I have of some Muslims in Africa. They all think Christianity and Islam are like twins. Originated at the same time but along the line, Christians got crazy and started worshipping Jesus as God. But if they'd do research, they'd realize that's not the case. Islam came 600 at least years after Christianity. No one would mention Prophet Muhammad in the Bible because he didn't exist yet. However, they did warn us against prophets like him who would later rise to teach that Jesus is not God
You know there is no mention of the prophecies of Jesus in the Torah/Talmud. That is why Jews don't believe in Jesus because he was never originally mentioned/referenced in Judaism until 1000s of years later
Do you think the books of Mosses, Jacob and Isaac and Jesus is what you have today, ask yourself this question. How can a word of good have version and volume. Are you kidding me
Not to mention that one of the oldest bibles actually has the same story as the one in the quran that Jesus didn't get crucified. And even the name of the God Allah is the same in both relegions. Jesus in his original language aramaic called god Allah elah.
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
@@GodtrulylovesyouallWe believe in Jesus and the things he preached. We also believe he will return. We only do not believe he is God. What exactly are you saying, sir?
@@Titisope the way you believe in jesus is the way some people believe the earth is flat you confused mary with miram which is very easy to do in arabic
the original “god” of Mecca was el baal, as in the baal of the Old Testament. Through research and deduction you can trace baal back to Satan. Satan can disguise himself as an angel, Muhammad was visited by an “angel” The Christian Bible written 600 years before Islam was first founded said Satan is the greatest deceiver, Muslims say Allah is the greatest deceiver. Seems they’re right, and fell for it themselves.
@@Titisopesee but if the word of God cannot be corrupted and the Bible is the word of God (which is entirely correct in the Muslim faith) then how can you deny Jesus is God when he says it himself? Also Galatians 1:8 says any doctrine after this, even one brought by an angel is from Satan. Muhammad was a slaveowner, and fully grown sleeping with a 9 year old. Jesus had no wife, his mission here was to save. Not indulge in primal pleasures. Muhammed waged invasions to spread Islam. Jesus died as a martyr to save us from a death we deserve.
The one that mentions that the quran talks about Jesus "isa" but the Bible doesn't mention muhammad... He was born almost 500 years after the last book of the Bible was written. Why would the Bible mention someone who hadn't been born yet?
The Muslims will never admit this..they just say oh the Bible is corrupted. But most of them.have never even held a Bible..also many Muslims are illiterate so how do they know what any religious book says. Do you think most Muslim women in Afghanistan can read the Quran.
13 VALID REASONS WHY AND HOW MUSLIMS ARE THE TRUE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS THAN CHRISTIANS: 1. Jesus ( Pbuh ) taught that there is only One God and Only God should be worshipped as taught in Deut 6:4, Mark 12:29. Muslims also believe this as taught in the Qur’an verse 4:171. 2. Jesus ( Pbuh ) didn’t eat pork as taught in Leviticus 11:7 , and neither do Muslims as taught in the Qur’an verse 6:145. 3. Jesus ( Pbuh ) greeted with the words “as salaamu alaikum” ( Peace be with you ) in John 20:21. Muslims also greet each other this way. 4. Jesus ( Pbuh ) always said “God Willing” ( Inshallah ), Muslims say this too before doing anything as taught in the Qur’an verses 18:23-24. 5. Jesus ( Pbuh ) washed his face, hands, and feet before praying. The Muslims do the same. 6. Jesus ( Pbuh ) and other prophets of the Bible prayed with their head to the ground ( See Matthew 26:39 ). Muslims do too as taught in the Qur’an verse 3:43. 7. Jesus ( Pbuh ) had a beard and wore a throbe. It is Sunnah for Muslim men to do the same. 8. Jesus ( Pbuh ) followed the law and believed in all the prophets, ( see Matthew 5:17 ). Muslims do too as taught in the Qur’an verses 3:84, and 2:285. 9. Jesus’ mother Maryam ( Pbut ) dressed modestly by fully covering her body and wearing a headscarf ( hijab ) as found in 1 Timothy 2:9, Genesis 24:64-65, and Corinthians 11:6. Muslim women modestly dress the same as taught in the Qur’an verse 33:59. 10. Jesus ( Pbuh ) and other prophets of the Bible fasted up to 40 days (see Exodus 34:28, Daniel 10:2-6. 1Kings 19:8, and Matthew 4:1-Muslims do so also during the month of Ramadan. Muslims are required to fast the full obligatory 30 days ( See Qur’an 2:183 ), and others take it a step further by fasting an additional 6 days to increase their rewards. 11. Jesus ( Pbuh ) taught to say “Peace to this house” when entering it ( See Luke 10:5 ), and to also greet the people in the house with “peace be unto you”. Muslims do exactly what Jesus did and taught. When we enter our homes and the homes of others we say “Bismillah” and also greet with “as salaamu alaikum” ( Peace be upon you ) as taught in the Qur’an verse 24:61. 12. Jesus ( Pbuh ) was circumcised. Circumcision is 1 of the 5 fitrah in Islam, so Muslim men are required to be circumcised. According to the Bible in Luke 2:21, Jesus was eight days old when he was circumcised. In the Torah, Allah/God stated to the Prophet Abraham ( Pbuh ) that it is an “Everlasting covenant” ( See Genesis 17:13 ). In the Qur’an verse 16:123 Muslims are required to follow the religion of Abraham. The Prophet Muhammad ( SWS ) said, “The Prophet Abraham circumcised himself when he was eighty years old.” ( See Sahih hadith Bukhari, Muslim, and Ahmad ). 13. Jesus ( Pbuh ) spoke aramaic and called God”Elah”, which is pronounced the same as “Allah”. Aramaic is an ancient, Biblical language. It is one of the Semitic languages that also include Hebrew, Arabic, Ethiopic and the ancient Assyrian and Babylonian language of Akkadian. The Aramaic”Elah” and the Arabic “Allah” are the same. The Aramaic “Elah” is derived from the Arabic “Allah”, and it means “GOD”. “Allah” in Arabic also means”GOD”, the Supreme GOD Almighty. You can easilysee the similarity in their pronunciation so this concludes that the God of Jesus is also the God of the Muslims, of all mankind, and all that exist. ⚫ 🌸 Almighty God Allaah states in the (Noble Qur'an 3:64): “..Say (O Muhammad Peace be upon him): "O people of the Scripture: Come to a word (God Name ﷲ Allah) that is similar between us and you, that we worship none but Allah ﷲ 👑 (Alone), and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah ﷲ Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims." ⚫🌸 Almighty God Allaah states in the Noble Quran : "..It is ﷲ (Allah) 👑 Who has created the heavens and the earth (Noble Qur'an Chapter 32:4). ⚫🌸 Genesis 1:1 First Bible First Chapter First Verse (Translations by Gideon). ﷲ👑 السموات والارض في البدء خلق 👑 In the beginning Allaah 'ﷲ' created the heaven and the earth. وَالحَياةُ الأبَدِيَّةُ هِيَ أنْ يَعرِفُوكَ أنتَ 👑 ﷲ 👑 الحَقِيْقِيُّ وَحدَكَ، وَأنْ يَعرِفُوا يَسُوعَ المَسِيحَ الَّذِي أرسَلْتَهُ 🌸 Now this is eternal life: that they know you Allaah 'ﷲ', the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent (John 17:3, Arabic Bible ERV) ⚫🌸 Bible Arabic: Smith & Van Dyke John 8:42 : فقال لهم يسوع لو كان 👑 ﷲ 👑 اباكم لكنتم تحبونني لاني خرجت من قبل 👑 ﷲ 👑 وأتيت. لاني لم آت من 🌸 "Jesus (Peace be upon him) said unto them : , If Allah ﷲ were your God, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from Allaah ﷲ neither came I of myself, but HE Allaah (ﷲ) sent me."
It differs in density, volume... Christians really need to come up with better explanations I honestly saw a pastor comparing the Trinity with the three headed dog from the Roman(idk if you know) I was like what the heck?!!
That is just doing false paralels how can anything earthly be like god. Everything on this earth is temporary and will eventually pass on but god is eternal
I'm here waiting for the theists VS atheists episode. These ones are just moving around in circles. My own is correct. No, it's my own that's correct. I gained nothing here.
The other side actually did. They didn't just say it directly because apparently, it's not in the right to. But the Muslim cleric mentioned a person can only go to paradise if he dies in Islam. And the Muslim lady said she had made heaven because she is Muslim. So...las, las, both side believe the other side is going to hell. I didn't just like what the Christian brothers did, using one mouth to say "we're serving the same God" and the other mouth to say "but y'all on the other side gon burn in hell!"
Because it is the truth. Jesus is the Truth, the Life, and the Way. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth. The Muslims has no conviction and no truth to stand ten toes down.
As an African this discussion scared me (Both sides). All I can say is one thing when we take any religion we all really follow through with it. I just wish we put this energy in other areas of life or atleast some energy.....
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
11:01 🤦♂God did not create man in his image or his likeness. Our senses and abilities are limited, while Allah's are UNLIMITED (literally). So, how did God create us in his image? what kind of madness is that? God's creations are INFINITE. These are pagan beliefs that where infiltrated into monotheism
For those who think Islam is a religion of peace; “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled”. - Qur’an 9:29
Lol, taking the verse out of context and not knowing why and when it was revealed. You can’t just read it and understand it, you need to study the exegesis bro, do your homework before you talk.
@@mytuts_Okay Bro, go ahead and briefly explain the context. I was expecting this comment because I wanted to provoke a dialogue. 😂. So, you’re welcome, let’s talk 😊
@@mytuts_ O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination. 9:123
@@mytuts_ O Prophet, strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination. Let’s not forget ahadith. Sahih Muslim 1:30
@@realtalkwithphil uhm bro, please read through the verse before and after all these verses you're cherry picking. That's the best way to really understand. If we're just provoking arguments, that means there was never any understanding intended in the first instance.
The young Christian man was contradicting himself. Jesus IS God. In Isa 9:6, Jesus was called the Mighty God, the Everlasting Father. The name of God is Jesus!!! If you don’t serve Jesus, you don’t serve my God I love that the Muslims stood their ground on that
To be a Christian means you are a follower of Christ. And to be a follower of Christ means that you have to worship the same God that Christ worshipped. Which is the Father, Jehovah (Yahweh ((YHWH)) ). "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God." John 20:17 . That scripture perfectly and explicitly states Jesus own words as to the relationship between us as humans and himself and us and humans, himself and the Father..... Our Father is also his Father and our God is also His God.... Any scripture in the Bible that is used to say that Jesus Christ is God is taken out of context.... Now let me explain Isaiah 9 and verse 6. Yes, Jesus Christ is the Mighty God and our Everlasting Father. He is Mighty God in the context of Co - Creator, when the Father said unto him, Let us make man in our image. Genesis 1:26 ... He was directly associated with our creation. So he is our God in that context. Just as when my earthly father says to me, come Jeremai, let us build an aquarium, and we both build that aquarium together. However, I can only build as my father instructs me, 4. It is not my will, but his. So yes, I am a creator of the aquarium, but I am not the creator because all of the knowledge and instruction that I use to make the aquarium comes from my father. And yes, Jesus Christ is our everlasting Father. He bought us from this the curse of sin that our first human Father, Adam, sold us into. Also, just because the Bible refers to him as father does not mean that he is THE FATHER. John Burke is my father and Reginald Burke is his father, my grand father. Both John and Reginald are my father's Because It is because of them both that I have life. But they are not equal. Both John and myself are children of Reginald. Both Jesus and ourselves are children of Jehovah. All scriptures point to this explicit fact. Any other scripture used to dispute this fact is taken out of context.
@@kage199x Dont have one "Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?" 1 Cor 1:10--13 My conviction and my knowledge, should only be based on what is written, not what a particular denomination or a particular faith believes. I use the most explicit scriptures in regards to a particular topic to dictate the context so that the less explicit scriptures will fall in line harmoniously.
im really ashamed of my christain brothers for saying the muslims are going to hell, but also the reason mohammed is not in the bible is because he didnt exist in the bible days, he was born 500+ years after the death of christ.
But its the truth, its said in bible. whosoever does not believe in Jesus christ the son shall perish and muslims do not believe Jesus christ is the God
As a Muslim, I can testify what the Muslims said in the video are not lies. All their points regarding the concept of God (Allah), prophets, heaven and hell align with the basic Islamic theology mentioned in the Quran. In contrast, many Christians themselves disagree with the Christians in the video because the core concept of Christianity which is the trinity was never mentioned concisely in the Bible. Hence, many Christians started to make up their own believe regarding the religion based on their own common sense.
@@jaesall3519 why, just because they have to cover their hair??? the rights for women are great in number. one of them is they can demand ANYTHING in any amount before marriage. They were the first women who were allowed to own property. I could go on.
@@abdelrahmanmahmoud3531the same is for Christianity. New testament Corinthians demands women to cover their head, Timothy demands for women to remain silent. The Old Testament is filled with misogyny as well, women are property of men. If a young girl is raped, the man must pay the father and marry her as his punishment. In war time, young girls are kept as plunder, spoils of war, property.
How would a Christian in the 21st century with the availability of the internet today not know Islam and Christianity are world apart & also do not worship the same God?! Please Christians & Muslims look up Sam Shamoun.
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
I wish I get to be invited one day Interesting topics for us to debate would be 1. Mohammeds view of the bible 2. trinity vs tauhid 3. Morality of the prophet 4. Is Mohammed prophesied about in the Bible 5. Is the quran perfectly preserved Its painful that some christians don't even know how to defend their faith
43:57 There are not only two commandments, rather those two are the greatest commandments by Jesus in Mark 12:28-31. In John 14:15, Jesus said: “If you love me, keep my commands.” He was referencing the Ten Commandments which He gave Moses. Read Exodus 19 & Exodus 20.
As a Pastor you need to dig deeper about other practices. In scripture the Bible says if you deny the Son you deny the Father. Allah is not a Father and he doesn’t have a son. Therefore we do not serve the same God. It’s really truly that simple. Much love❤!
I think the fundamental difference is no matter what Christian say Muslim will only see Jesus as a prophet. To them there is no equivalent to God, nonetheless a prophet. Christians have accepted Jesus as their God, by their own logic. Muslims refuse to equate anybody else as God but God
The bible is not the word of God. It was copied from ancient texts in sumerian text, the emerald tablets, the enuma elish, the Epic of Gilgamesh, u name it. Go do research. Some God killing children, u think this is the creator of all? Think again
Both religions did not originate from Nigeria or west Africa. Why are we debating on this. Were there no religions in Nigeria before Islam and Christianity? Sad!!!! Our ancestors are rolling in the grave
Our "ancestors" couldn't save themselves from the colonizers that invaded the country. The fact that it was spread by people doesn't invalidate the truth of it. These debates are necessary because there is a God. And we need him, we need the right one, not ogun or osun that couldn't even save themselves and require blood sacrifices from their followers. Debates like these are necessary because every god calls for exclusivity in worship but we have thousands, and only one is right. Not two not three and people need to be pointed in the right direction. May God point us in the right direction.
@@Ifpurplewasagirland we can't save ourselves from ourselves, look at the state of the country with all the churches and mosques. Mind you we are still colonized (neocolonialism)
Can you answer this question how many personality to do you have as a human? Explain body ,soul and spirit We as human have this abilities to have three personality then what more of God.
Saved from what? From what god is going to do to you if you don’t worship him? Because he requires a blood sacrifice to forgive up for your existence? Nice flex
@@sammy-er7onWhich means God and it’s very generic. Anyone who speaks Arabic or Aramic can say Allah and believe in a different God. Is God’s name in the Hebrew scriptures spelled out the the Quran?
@@jamie5mauserAllah is just the Arabic word for God, and is how Arab Christians refer to God. Deus in Latin, God in English, Elaha in Biblical Aramaic (native language of Jesus), Khuda in Persia.
The lady in the green comparing God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit to water, ice, and air is false. Because the Father doesn’t change to become the Son and neither foes the son change to become the spirit. They are three distinct beings that work well together. They are always in harmony.
You didn't understand her point. She said, water is one substance. You can have water as ice(The father), you can have water as steam(the Holy spirit)and you can have water as liquid(the son), but its is still one water(God). She didn't mean that God the father changes to the son, or He changes to the holy spirit. She just means they are 3 persons in One which is just God.
@@snaymncinah this is false. You would need three distinct things. Water as ice, water as liquid, water as vapor is inferencing that God changes forms. Jesus is God but he is NOT the Father. Ice is water but it’s not liquid. But under the right condition it can be. That is not the case with God. Under no circumstance can the Father be the Son. Because at the end of the day, yes it’s water but it can change its molecular composition to become a different state. God doesn’t change to become a different state. The question to ask is can ice, water, and vapor be in equilibrium? If so, for how long before one state takes over
Unfortunately, the analogy that she used of using water is classed as a heresy. Classed as modalism. When describing the Trinity, is best to use the theological terms indore to get the point across because any comparison to rule, world, phenomenon is going to lead to one or more heresies.
@@djidjine5082 you are thinking from a wordly point of view you have to understand the God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit exist outside time space, SCIENCE and the heavens itself. im just going to leave you with lots of love regardless of if you get what i say but i pray that God unhardens your heart and gives you wisdom and discernment to understand what the analogy truly meant.
Anyways, “how Jesus became god” by Bart Erman explains in detail how modern day Christians began to view Jesus as God whereas the original followers of Jesus did not. Yusha Evans also talks a lot about this topic. Most Christians don’t even know that the trinity (Trinitas) is a relatively modern concept conjured during Constantine’s rule (by a man named father Athanacius) and many Christians were actually killed to enforce it. This is not even a conspiracy it’s well known historical fact and it’s wild that most people don’t even do research at least to a small level before risking their afterlife. Just blind following and dogma.
So barterhman is the new prophet of islam cuz bart erhman destroy the entire religion of islam bart wrote and i quote it is a fact of history that Jesus was crucified that alone disprove the entire religion of islam and its comic book the quran by disproving historical facts
Half right, some of the original followers did believe, like Mathew, Mark, Luke, John & Paul. Also many more. Question, why do think so many Christians risked there life believing Jesus Christ was God in the 1st century? Also, the Trinity is revealed in & throughout Scrpitures & was believed for over 2000 years.
I wonder why this people can nit understand the fact that Muslims believe in Jesus(Proohet Yisa). And they keep saying they would go to hell. Who are they to decide? Even as christians to christains , you cant tell one sister will go to hell.
Believing is God’s Son is different from believing someone is a prophet. Demons believe in Jesus, they believe that there is one God and that he is the Messiah/a prophet. What is the difference between you and the demons?
At the end of the day, most of you all are practising your parent's religion. You would have been on the other side of the conversation simply by virtue of who gave birth to you.
@@vylc1611 it actually does in a way, your parents introduced to religion as a whole, later you feel like you have to be in a another religion for whatever reason you switched, there is a reason why you didn't completely ditched religion entirely. You feel like you need religion of some sort which was initially introduced to you by your parent
@@Mkhl4Sure dawg u cant tell her how she felt💀 only she knows best stop tryna explain her life story without knwoing a single thing about maybe she left not because of that reason but jst because she reasearched islam and felt more comfornt in it
@@vylc1611 Islam is just a copy of the bible but twisted it to give Muhammad more glory. Soon THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE is going to eradicate Islam because Islam is a lie. Islam cant even tell you about israel, cant tell you about king david sins, they all think the prophets were sinless (which is wrong). Muhammad got rekt by a Jewish women and soon going to HELL because HE 1000% FAILED MOSES LAW.
11:42 😂😂 Christian brother : if we can see, it is because God can see, if we can talk it is because God can talk Muslim sister : what about those who are blind ? It is because God can’t see? … 😂😂😂 that was crazy !!
The crusades were in response to the violence against the Jews and Christian’s by the muslims at the time. The crusades didn’t just fall out of thin air. If you are attacking me, I will definitely defend my self, that was simply what the crusades were about.
Yeah. What about the crusades??? Do you need me to educate you??! Islam stared killing to conquer. Entered north Africa, Asia, turkey, Spain.... just killing and taking the countries. Killed Jews and Christians... Crusaders came to defend... do a well grounded research.
You are referencing events from medieval times. The fact is christians today do not actively and openly kill ppl for blasphemy. Your whataboutism is totally redundant. Dont try to come back with some lame anti christian rhetoric cos i am antitheist I find both Islam and Christianity to be systems of subjugation.
as a muslim, our holy book (the quran) is preserved in the same language (arabic) since its been revealed like 1400 years ago. if jesus spoke aramaic, why is it written in greek? so that doesn't make sense. also in the christian world, jesus 'died for their sins', so what the point of our existence? if christians can do whatever they want, bc jesus 'died for their sins' what is even life lol? .... a plethora of contractions! ignorance is bliss, allhamdulilah for being a muslimah.
Hi, to answer your question. That is definitely not the point of Christs sacrifice. His grace given to us through his death for our sins, it is not so we can take advantage of it. It even says in the bible that we should not take advantage of this grace. Romans 6:1-2 “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?.” Because he died for our sins and rose back to life. We can now live the good life that God planned for us through the power and help of the Holy Spirit. And even when we sin (because we are human) Christ’s sacrifice pays for those sins so we will not be condemned for those sins. We can get back up again and continue walking with God. Hope this helps :).
Your logic is flawed. I can easily throw back the question, if Allah is all merciful, Muslims can do whatever they want. Christ came to show us how to live, died so that we may have life eternal, resurrected to fulfill the Word, as He is, and come back for His children.
@@Ivanabelle y’all let y’all religion get publicly disrespected😭… lil nas x made a whole music video disrespecting christianity. there’s no accountability in christianity, just as long as you believe in christ, all is well... yeah no thanks
@@reginaphalange93 most Christian media called him out? Once a person is made aware of their wrongs, it's between them and God. Lil Nas X doesn't represent Christianity, in fact very far from it. So very weird measurement of our faith but do as you please.
Aramaic was the primary language for Jewish people in Galilee and Judea. However, Greek was the lingua franca in the Eastern Mediterranean and the language of trade, culture, and Roman administration. Records (including the bible) document interactions between Jesus and non-Jewish individuals such as Roman centurions and Syro-Phoenician (Canaanite) people. So Jesus must have spoken Greek.
Guys whenever u go for such debates atleast have some knowledge about Islam so that u can debunk then see that part when the lady asked whether there is apart where it's written to kill she should study the Qur'an for reference I can give just oneSura sura 9:29
Surah 9.29 in the Qur'an Fight against those who do not believe in Allāh or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allāh and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth [i.e., Islām] from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah1 willingly while they are humbled.
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
Religion divides people because there is different practices because Christians they say they believe in one God and Muslims they say they believe in one God but the practice is very different so this is why there is such a division between each religious groups those that believe in many entities and deities or multiple Gods and Goddesses so Christianity in Islam have different have different practice but they are they are some similarities for example Christians and Catholics and different group of Christians are very divided but they believe in one God but there is different interpretation to the Bible but the Quran Muslim say that there's only one Quran but there's also different group of Muslims because there are a bit divided there are some Muslim women do not cover themselves and don't even wear a burka 0:00
Alhamdulilahi rubil alamin I thank God almighty for been a Muslim... I appreciate our brother and sister they did their best and well done to them... The only thing that they did not do is to ask for proof and evidence not from the Quran but the Bible
@@beatforjesusbykellym2104 Uh You do realise that the Gospels themselves are aunothenthic scriptures from untrusted Authors that existed decades if not Hundreds of years after Isho/Issa's time with no Scriptures or Manuscripts written in Aramaic but kione Greek. Bedsides The Quran already Telling about Jesus and the Gospels not being authentic There's literally been Discoverys in the middle east and North Africa Discovered by the sayings of the Prophet SWT to this very timeline and his own back in 640 A.D where mentions Muslims were hears in Egypt by Sinai Bediouns 8 years after The Prophet Returned to Allah unlike the claimed 4 decades after Jesus SWT passing by some random man who had a different philosophical viewing of Christ than his own Followers. Now tell Me why would I trust A book with False timelines secret Authors and Being Debunked by it's own scholars that had to look back at Muslims on Jesus's name and possibilities than The Greatest Miracle of All to Hummanity the Qur'an Repent to Truth before Damnation arrives I say I wish not for you to be in great Torment and suffering Ma'am
I felt Aminat when she said, “With the number of handsome Habibi, all those handsome Islamic guys, it can not work, I will never” 😂😅 Okayyyyy 🥰🫶🏽 Mashallah 🥰
Eish, my only suggestion is that you would've got a mixed Christian speakers. They all seem protestant - pentecostal or non denominational, but it would've been good to seen a catholic speaking on natural theology to the first question. Orthodox talk on the second prompt. Even could have had some Mormons or Adventist there
9:19 🤦♂The thing is that they don't even know what Jesus said because they don't his original revelation. All they have are alleged "translations" which were changed and modified, and have contradictions and mistakes. With THOUSANDS of different bibles in one language with different chapters and different things written, which one is the word of god? Where is the original revelation? when was it last seen? How did it disappear? the person who translated the bible that they use, did he have the original revelation? if no, how did he translate the word of god? If you say yes, how do you know?
I don’t know why people are criticizing the Christians. They did a fantastic job. The reality is that there are no answers. We can only try to defend our positions. As for me, there is no one true religion. God is not a God of confusion. God is Love and that is all that matters.
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
@@Godtrulylovesyouall Jesus is a fictive character-- not real. there is no evidence of a blue eyed blonde jesus ever lived in ancient Israel. The bible is an allegorical work stop reading it as literal historical book
The God of the Bible and the God of the Quran are referring to the same Person. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the same God that the Jews, Christians, and Muslims claim to worship. However, just because you claim to worship The same God doesn't mean that's how that God wishes to be worshipped. After the Israelites crossed the Red Sea, they made a golden calf, and just after they made it, Aaron said that it was a festival to Yahweh. (YHWH) (The Aramaic Personal name for God) In their minds they were worshipping their God. However, they were just not worshipping him the way that he wants to be worshipped. And that sums up the major reason for division in religion. People tend to worship God how they want to worship him instead of how he wants to be worshipped.
The aramaic name of God is elah/Allaha. Jesus according to the Bible used to pray the exact way prophet Muhammed prayed. The oldest Bible isn't even written in its original language. Som of the oldest bibles claim jesus wasn't crucified. Bible was written without the existence of Jesus at that time unlike the quran wich was "publicly" for everyone to write and hear and see and also by "the prophet" who sent it. I can't say I have that much knowledge but knowing the most schoolars agree that the bible was changed and you can find 3000 verses that was added or removed wich explains the numbers of the verses. It just makes me not lean towards Christianity.
@@omgman928 Elah is the Aramaic word for God just as Allah is the Arabic word for God. not his personal name . God is just a title, not a name. "And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them." Exodus 6:3 KJV .... Jehovah in English Yahweh in Hebrew Yahuh and/or Yahwah (يَهْوَه) in Arabic. I can definitely understand your apprehension with regards to choosing belief system based on the claims of corruption of the scriptures, especially with so many different translations of the Bible. What I will encourage you to do is read both the Quran and the Bible. I personally find the Bible more specific and explicit in identifying and answering more important questions of existence. What you will have to do is to search and research on your own all while honestly and wholeheartedly asking the Father for guidance with constant prayer and supplication.
@@omgman928I hope you realize what you have today isn’t the original Quran and Uthman burnt the first Quran after the death of Muhammad. Most Muslims are bn brainwashed into believing same thing about Christianity by reading the footnotes and thus making them not able to think outside the box. Read the Bible and Quran (without footnotes) for yourself and ask questions then you will see the truth
Religion has shown us Shege Banza Uku in this Africa… Every race has their own God except Africans Indians - Hindus Chinese - Buddhists Whites - Jews/ Christians Arabs - Islam Africa - ??????? I’m proudly Muslim, However I can never ever condemn any other religion as they are all “MEANS OF COMMUNICATING AND CONNECTING WITH A SUPERIOR BEING ( GOD)” just through different forms and religions.. No one way (religion) is better than the other in the grand scheme of things … Look at it this way … you want to travel to Lagos, there are soo many ways to get there.. you can go through Enugu, kaduna, or Kwara… because you chose to go through Kwara doesn’t mean that me that chose to go through Kaduna is wrong.. to each their own …. Remain blessed I love you soo much 😘😘
You say every race has their own religion, Indians isn't a race, Chinese isn't a race, Arabs isn't a race, and neither is africa a race. And if you use a metaphorical statement to talk about how this religion is the same thing but a different path is taken, you cannot talk about this certain race not having a realigion. The one true religion is christianity. I don't need to go back and forth with a person who is taken a different instead of the one true route. Plus, islam has like 5 books and like scrolls or something like that. That says one thing in one and says another in another book. And also, doesn't surah 9 verse 29 say that you should fight those that do not believe in isalm? Just saying...
@@otdavid_explain this to me please, How is Jesus God, and was birthed by Mary, A human that was created by God?? You’re saying Mary was created by God and later gave birth to God? Absolutely Ridiculous.
These guys are not sound at all. All the intellectuals in here will be so tired of this video. Like they are not educated in this matter at all. see poor logic smh
Abi, I'm a Christian and I was screaming shut up 😂😂. If I'm not certain on something, I don't have a reasonable answer I'm not speaking. The Muslims have said we don't worship the same God and you are still forcing them, next you say they are going to hell 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️. If they didn't stand on the first point, the hell issue won't have been so painful to watch
Please read Mathew 12:24-40 you'll understand we don't serve the same God. This people are telling you they serve the same God and you're insisting we're serving the same God.
It's very interesting because this debate if Christians and Muslims well as a Christian we believe in one God but normally I am Catholic but it's the same anyway but the reason why people questioned if Christians and Muslims worship the same God because there's a different practice to the Bible and the Quran oh and by the way when I discovered that in the Bible it says that Christians are not allowed to eat pork because it's unclean so what can I say about that😅😂 I am a pork either but I am not allowed to eat pork🐷🐽🥓🥓 so what do Christians have to say about that because I'm a Christian myself but Roman Catholic I still eat pork but I'm not allowed to eat pork so we should also here is The proof that some practice have some similarities when it's about not eating pork but I still eat pork anyway so it's Funny laughing my face off LOL 46:09
@@KingofgraceSARA😂😂😂😂 Right I've seen heated debates with Christians bringing Muslims to check the Muslims on their faith.. This one wasn't that heated.
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
@@Godtrulylovesyouall Oshey Legend of the seeker. Al these attribute you're attaching to Jesus that he doesn't even know about. What exactly does God do in the whole picture. He just sits down and stretch his leg abi😂😂😂
My own is that if Jesus is God who did Jesus Christ Fast and Pray to ? 🤔 who’s receiving his prayers if Christian call him God , And is it Possible for God to be Fasting and Praying to himself? 🤔🤔
The initial question should have been who is Jesus? The both Muslims tried but they didn't have a sound knowledge of (Tawheed) oneness of Allah and the criteria on how people will go to heaven according to Islam. He quoted the verse where Allah said : Don't die except in the state of Islam. And Allah said whoever dies associating partner or calling Jesus God he/she will not enter and never enter Paradise. No matter how good they do in this life. Any act of kindness a non Muslim do, the reward will be given to them in this life and whoever come with any thing that is not Islam all his/her deed will be thrown away. Both Islam and Christianity believe that salvation is only through their religion.
Also this was shared with me today by my good friend Yahuda and I think it’s applicable this situation. As Christian’s we must aim to embody these scriptures 2 Timothy 2:24-26 English Standard Version 24 And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, 25 correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will. Even if we disagree we still love our neighbour because we are all made in the image of God.
12:43 Prophet Muhammad is not in the Bible because he wasn't born until 570 AD... The Bible ends with the story of the Apolostles between 4-95 AD. Any Prophet existing after that date are not included.
The funny thing about this is that’s in Quran it states that we serve the same God Surah 29:46. In the Bible it states that if you don’t believe in the son of God… you gonna perish, John 3:16. My fellow Christians we do not worship the same God as the Muslims always stand by the truth. Our God, we call him Father, their God, they call him Master.
Please that's not what John 3:16 says It's state that so God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that who so ever Believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life
@@favourotusanya If your a Muslims you believe that God doesn’t have a Son nor is he a Father. So, you used this scripture to support his point basically. God sent his son into the world who was Jesus. You do not accept Jesus as God’s Son. So, you cannot have everlasting life if you do not accept Jesus as God’s Son. Do you understand?
29:39 you don’t judge a group of people based on one person’s actions ,Christianity is also a religion of peace but how many Christians are in peace with one another ,does that still means Christianity is not a religion of peace ,also the sharia law also relates to the law of Moses where you could look at a lady and have your eyes plucked out
it would have been good to get ex-muslims who are now christian as they would have been better equpped to understand the muslim perspective and give insight on how Chrisitianity is the truth.
26:05 if this guy is a pastor and wants to go far, he should study more. He should look into the life of Muhammad and read the Quran especially what is prescribed against infidels. Obviously not everyone will do that, but Muhammad did and so did Usman Dan Fodio that was mentioned by the Muslim cleric. Usman's legacy is in history books for anyone curious to read, I'm pretty sure Google will speed up the search. Just type Ali Dawah or Apostate Prophet: one is a devout Muslim, the other has left it, but they both expose the bloody side of Islam that people refuse to admit. I have some Muslim friends, my boss and colleagues are Muslims (I'm in Rivers State sef). Just like Christians don't do everything in the Bible, that's why many Muslims are friendly too
Because I have forgotten the exact verse in the Quran where Muhammad told his followers to kill non believers and apostates, I refrained from commenting on the question Esther (the lady on green) asked the Muslim cleric saying "abi is there any place in the Quran that says you should kill?"
Both Christianity and Islam started in the Middle East, the former being 500-600 years earlier though. However, the founders of both taught their followers differently. Jesus never taught His disciples to kill non believers or apostates, Muhammad did (random reader, pardon me for forgetting the Quranic verse for this). Islam spread through violence and conquest, Christianity spread through persecution (like the more the early Church was persecuted by ancient Rome, the larger it became). There was one era, I think the 13 and 14 century when Christians were violent (the Crusades) but take a deep study on why that happened and you'll realize they weren't killing people for not believing Christianity; they were trying to claim their land or so back (seriously, forgive me for not being so sure about this facts)
So let's not do what Esther did, counting the few Muslims we know who are peaceful and using them to judge the whole religion as peaceful. Are we not seeing what's happening in the news? All over the world! Most Muslims act violently in the name of Islam. How many Christian led terrorist groups do you know? Shouldn't that tell us something? Of course, we could have dismissed all this as just behaviours of extremists and fanatics but when we check the Quran, we see that it supports this extremists.
7:06- the difference is our God stayed as the supreme entity, yours evolves into having a son and being a spirit…and the Quran does not have the biblical quote “created in Gods image”
Here's a summarized list of popular English translations of the Quran:Salimat😂😂😂 *1. Sahih International - Clear, accessible, modern language. *2. The Noble Quran - Detailed with parenthetical explanations and footnotes. *3. Abdullah Yusuf Ali - Poetic style, extensive commentary. *4. Marmaduke Pickthall - Literary style, close to the Arabic. *5. Muhammad Asad - Scholarly, with historical and philosophical context. *6. Abdul Majid Daryabadi - Linguistic and historical insights. *7. Maulana Wahiduddin Khan - Simple and easy to understand. *8. A. J. Arberry - Focuses on literary and poetic elements. *9. Talal Itani - Concise, modern, and accessible.
Do Christian converts vs Muslim reverts , I feel the discussion would be more rounded as both have seen both sides of the coin And give thier perspective in the practice of both religions
don't disrespect the father and say allah is the father Allah is the evil villain not the father
That's very correct or have people that are grounded in the others's literatures and let them speak from positions of knowledge and not feelings.
Yes i was christian and I converted to Islam.
@@vylc1611 Yes i was Muslim and I converted to christian.
@@vylc1611 what does it mean to be Christian?
What inspired you to leave the Christian faith?
These Christians aren't well grounded, I lost it when they said we serve the same God
We don’t and many people don’t know that. Muslims are serving the enemy S A T A N with he’s 99 names one being the deceiver.
Gbam 💯💯💯
I was like 5mins in only one Christian left
Then you don’t understand their bias. The point is there is only 1 entity that’s responsible for the creation of this universe and everything in it.
The way we serve “Him” or reference that entity is the concept of religion.
If we have different entities that created the earth we would have more than 1 earth.
That’s what they mean by we serve the same God.
It’s like looking at an Elephant from only the front you can see only the head, if you look at it from the back you can only see the tail. That doesn’t make the Elephant a donkey. I hope you understand now.
@@dammieoflagos280 They do not serve the same God bro. The Allah in the Quran contradicts God in the Bible.
It breaks my heart that many Christians cannot defend the faith. Many Christians do not even understand the gospel and when we come out, it now looks we don’t know what we are saying.
This should be a wake up call to every believer. Study the word and rightly divide the Word of truth!!! Not just for yourself but to be able to teach others too.
How can you separate Jesus from the creator? Oh please 😭😭
That's why the West is failing because we have forgotten ourove for God and He's precious son Jesus if many Christians were devoted as Judaism and Isalm followers the West wouldn't be crumbling we must humble ourselves and go back to Jesus
It should not break your heart when the essence of your faith was never fully authorised around the 3rd or 4th century. I don't think christians or jews even worship the same God.
@@garawa1987 Do know what the infant mortality rate when things were more "christian'?
@@arthurmorgan4942 Islam is just dangerous bootleg christianity. Christianity is just bootleg Judaisim. Judaisim is just a knock off ancient polytheistic Isrealitic religion wearing a dress pretending to be monotheistic.
@@arthurmorgan4942 😂 you act as if God shook when man "seemed it right" for faith to be authorized (by man), according to you and your source(s) in the 3rd or 4th century. 😂 God laughs at those who think by history and intellect alone they have a defense in who He is and the work he does through, for and with His people, can be reasoned through human understanding. From the beginning of time (that means prior to the 3rd and 4th century) He was, IS and forever will be, God. He is "Faith". No one can authorize Him. The nerve of humans.
“I want to see you on that day, that you made it” the attitude we all should have towards each other. May God have mercy on us all❤
nah he's very narcissistic
All of these people except the young Christian fellow are very biased toward their faith…. But pastor rock almost made me cry when he said that because those words indicate that he actually believes that the Muslim man can still make it
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
@@KeonRouse The Musliman already made it, he is blessed with the knowledge of Islam, and its the greatest gift of all.
Esther nailed it by proving we don't serve the same god. The Christian GOD is triune in nature, hence we acknowledge the divinity and LORDship of CHRIST (PHILIPPIANS 2:9-11).
Jews think Christianity is paganism for a reason
Notice how you have to quote PAUL to justify it lol.
@@renee3308 I can give you many verses stating Jesus is God, amd that he was from the very beginning
@@kantui100 nope you’ll give me many verses where your church has manipulated the meaning and convinced you to believe it’s related to Jesus stating he’s god.
@@kantui100 at the end of the day, most Christians didn’t believe Jesus was god before all of the Roman councils hundreds of years after his departure from earth. Council of nicea included. You allowed a Roman government…who was persecuting Christians beforehand…decide what your beliefs were gonna be lol.
I have a feeling this video is going to be pointless. It's like asking people to debate why they think spicy food is better than sweet food. At the end of the day, the only answer you will get is trust me bro
You’re right
No mate!
Pointless ... argument
@@bbg_oreoluwayes
@stamzthehuman897 thats a faulty comparison. at the end of the day its not pointless maybe to you, some learn a lot from this small video.
Please bring more educated theologians when you want to touch on a matter as sensitive as religion
Yes, please. I respect the topic but we need educated theologians.
Seconded!
It a sensitive topic because when you disrespect their religon by just believing in another religion well...things get violent.
Well,it is good to know what the average person thinks.
Educated theologians have states that Abrahamic religion are not based on factual occurrence( the exodus& Moses had nothing to do with the Egypt and there’s no collection of him in history.) These religions have proven to be untrue in its factual depiction. No one wants listen to arguement of hear-say when there is factual evidence represented.
I'm a Christian and do not believe we serve the God; but the Christians saying they believe we are serving the same God with Muslims while saying they would go to hell in this is contradicting, cause if they claim are serving the same God why will they go to hell.
Christians believe Jesus is the way to the father.. Muslims don't, that is why Christians say they will go to hell.
The reason why Christians and Muslims are said to worship the same God is because they believe in the God of "Abraham".
God bless you we're not serving the same God at all
We are serving God. Causes allah means God and not any other God these people don’t even know about Christianity and Islamic religion they just speaking out of their nigerian knowledge 😂
@@ololadesuberu4341 Well they don't know that their religions is just the scam version of Jewdaism
which is also a scam version the ancient Israelite pagan religions of El or Elohim. Elohim being "father of the gods". Its even in the name of Isra*el*.
Each Christian has their own idea of what is true. Thats by necessity, there is no objective way to determine who is right or wrong in matters of faith. Anyone can find their reasoning to be correct, and there is no objective way to mediate that.
Arguing which religion is correct is like arguing which Harry Potter is the best book.
This Esther lady impressed. Am speaking as a Christian who studies both Christianity and Islam...
You guys clearly brought ill prepared people to discuss such delicate topic! Religion is more theological than street discourse!! How many of them have read and properly understood both books of each religion?
Facts!
True for me the Christians you bought are not given
@@favourotusanyaWhat do you mean??????... ...
by the looks of it none of them
We do not worship same God!
Thank you, Esther🎉
That's right. Allah is not God, because we all know that the Jews were God's chosen people. There was no Muslim before Mohammed created that religion, he mixed Christian stories with pagan rituals.
@ariamason9324 but the christains worship Jesus and jews do not worship Jesus so you can be worshipping the same God as jews
@@sholay706 The Jews are just yet to leave their delusional idea that Christ isn't the promised Messiah.
The Jews believe in the same God as the Christians. But the problem is they're still living the old convenant, regarding holy Abraham and Moses and they do not believe in Christ as the Messiah. So their worship isn't full, because it is he that believes in CHRIST JESUS that shall not perish, so says the Holy Bible.
Whereas, Muslims story is a whole different ball game. They acknowledge Christ as only a prophet, no saviour, no redemption, no death no resurrection and Mohamed to them is a greater personality than Christ Himself. Great error
@@sholay706 The Jews worship same God as the Christians, but imperfectly. Why? Because they are yet to leave the delusional idea that Christ Jesus isn't the promised Messiah, they still cling to the old convenant, regarding holy Abraham and Moses(which were people of God).
It is he who believes in CHRIST JESUS (not anyone else) that'll not perish. God perfects His convenant with man by the coming of Christ. So what is the point of you adoring the Father when you still keep malice with the Son?
Moreover, Muslims don't acknowledge they'd be a Messaiah in the first place, there would be a death, a redemption, a resurrection, they prioritize their Mohammed over the Christ whom they regard as only "one of those prophets", no blessed Trinity, nothing... Our God is not a God of confusion.
If you don't believe in the son and all he suffered for us, then you're in error.
Just as Jehovah's witnesses aren't fully Christians as they may seem, because they do not believe in the Blessed Trinity. Error. Lemme not even go there...😌
@annabelenu1964 lol the jews dont worship Jesus. Christian worship a man Jesus who died. The God of the jews and Muslims does not die and he is everliving. Go ask a Rabbi if you worship the same God and he would say no
I also disagree with us worshipping the same God. That's not possible.
Gbammm
It is possible the we worship the same God. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all Abrahamic religions. Meaning we worship the God of Abraham. Where there are discrepancies with how we worship and understand that God. Its a fact that the God of these three religions is the God of Abraham and therefore the same God.
Exactly! Because the Allah in the Quran contradicts the character God in the Bible.
@@realtalkwithphil Yeahhh, cuz in Islam God (Allah) is specifically highlighted in the concept of Islamic monotheism (meaning Oneness, none other than One True God), and in Christianity, there's the Trinity (meaning three characters in One God, wherein the Son, according to the Christians becomes the Father, that's why some say "Jesus is God"). So if we put this on a theological scale, there's actually no comparison, cuz one is Trinity (literally meaning three) and one is Monotheism (literally meaning one). Definitely, not the same God being worshipped in both religions. And if we even want to say that two religions believe and worship the same God, I'd honestly rather say that's Islam and Judaism, not Christianity. (As per Abrahamic religions naw)
@@azeezatazeezzzYes,we are not worshipping the same God…The God we know as Jews and Christians is a father…but Mohammed comes 600 years later with his religion that says Allah is a father to no one,and you can only come to him as a slave,meaning the highest form of relationship you can have with him is that of master and slave which contradicts with the God of the Torah and gospels…This alone makes Islam not an Abrahamic faith
As a Muslim, these conversations are so draining. Let's all just have our beliefs and have respect for one another. If there are those that want to change their religion then that's fine. This is the only way i see us moving forward and that's respect.
I disagree, please research your religion by actively reading the scriptures. The Koran is not that long. The Hadiths are repetititve. It's available in English online. Be honest with yourself. You will realize there a lot of issues with this religion, that you were lied to and followed a very bad man. The Muslims in this video lied, especially the man. The woman probably doesn't know, but the man lied.
I disagree, If you someone is headed to hell wouldn’t you want to tell them about what your book says ?
If someone house is on fire and they are sleep wouldn’t you want to come and save them, wake them up?
@@Only1heze The information is there, they choose not to believe, what can you do. Allah knows best
@@themadridstand not everyone is born into or knows about the Gospels bro you gotta let them know
@@themadridstand also why does it say in Quran to fight Jews and Christians for their beliefs ? If Allah is all seeing all knowing , wouldn’t he have seen that Christians and Muslims can co exist with each other with no fighting ?
Sis ate him up with that water analogy!! Replayed it twice cause I'm definitely using that. These Christians are really good at explaining the belief system thats for sure!
The water analogy is actually heretical. God's triune nature is unlike anything in this realm. Nonetheless, I understand what she was trying to do.
it’s the worst thing i’ve heard in my life 😂 after the photo reflection thing
@@pastorpelu you are so extra, of course God is not like water, but it was an ANALOGY, stop being extra, it was a good way to help people understand
We still do not understand with water analogy cuz you can't have ice at the same time when water is in Liquid form... Water in the liquid form has to cease being liquid before it can form ice but Father son and Holy Spirit exists without any of them ceased before other can exist, so it doesn't add up. Even doctors in divinity found it so difficult so explain the concept of Trinity that will go inline with normal sense...the only thing they will end up it is is a mystery you cannot understand.
A sane person can never understand Trinity unless you change to the state of insanity.
God is made of atoms? 😂😂😂 please dont equate god to matter
🤦♂10:10 "for god to help us he HAD to take human form. he had to feel human feelings... he HAD to feel pain". This is absolute bonkers! God is OMNIPOTENT and OMNISCIENT. God doesn't need to become weak or lower himself. Allahu Akbar! God is GREATER than all of that! God encompasses the entirety of creation with his knowledge and power.
This is my problem with religion. Everyone thinks their own is the best.
Like bro wtf is wrong with us
This!!!!!!....
Don’t bash anyone. It’s either both of them are wrong, or one of them is correct and the other is wrong.
A religious person could say the problem to atheists they also think they are right
Christianity Is the one true religion, end of story.
VIDEO SUMMARY:
A: My book is the correct one.
B: Prove it.
A: My book told me so.
B: Lies. My book told me mine is correct.
Circlar reasoning💀
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Exactly
Dumbest shît ever
Study the evidence bro. The problem Jubilee makes is the same problem CRUISE is making here. These people with an exception of the Muslim cleric are not qualified to be conversing about complex matters such as this.
Skilled apologists n polemicists should be included in the panel, else no one will actually learn anything.
@@eselevi6132Which evidence Abeg? 😂😂😂
Religion can be a sensitive and personal topic, and debating it can be complex and potentially divisive. While discussing and exploring different beliefs and perspectives can be valuable, it's essential to approach these conversations with respect, empathy, and open-mindedness.
Debating religion can be beneficial when:
1. Done respectfully, without aiming to "win" or "convert" others.
2. Focusing on understanding different perspectives and beliefs.
3. Exploring the historical, cultural, and social contexts of religions.
However, debates can be harmful when they:
1. Involve proselytizing or trying to convince others of a single "truth."
2. Disrespect or mock others' beliefs.
3. Overlook the personal and emotional connections people have with their faith.
Remember, everyone has the right to their beliefs, and respectful dialogue can foster greater understanding and empathy.
Well said ❤
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10:30 ive used this analogy before and this is the first time I’ve heard it from someone else. That’s a good point!
It is actually a wrong analogy. It's called Modalism and it's a common pitfall of using analogies for the Trinity
I believe that individuals tend to adhere to the religion they were raised in, whether it's Islam, Christianity, or any other faith, because it's passed down from their parents and ingrained in their upbringing. Therefore, instead of engaging in religious arguments, I advocate for being a good person regardless of religious affiliation. Our environment shapes our beliefs, so let's choose to live a righteous life regardless of the specific religion we follow. The important thing for me is be a better person and enjoy life......
12:50 that question of "why is Prophet Muhammad not mentioned in the Bible" just proved an assumption I have of some Muslims in Africa. They all think Christianity and Islam are like twins. Originated at the same time but along the line, Christians got crazy and started worshipping Jesus as God. But if they'd do research, they'd realize that's not the case. Islam came 600 at least years after Christianity. No one would mention Prophet Muhammad in the Bible because he didn't exist yet. However, they did warn us against prophets like him who would later rise to teach that Jesus is not God
Exactly. I'm surprised the cleric didn't know this. The Bible was written long before Mohammed came about.
You know there is no mention of the prophecies of Jesus in the Torah/Talmud. That is why Jews don't believe in Jesus because he was never originally mentioned/referenced in Judaism until 1000s of years later
Facts!
Do you think the books of Mosses, Jacob and Isaac and Jesus is what you have today, ask yourself this question. How can a word of good have version and volume. Are you kidding me
Not to mention that one of the oldest bibles actually has the same story as the one in the quran that Jesus didn't get crucified.
And even the name of the God Allah is the same in both relegions.
Jesus in his original language aramaic called god Allah elah.
I really felt her words when Saliman said "I will make it already, I'm Muslim". Aww, what a beautiful religion. #ISLAM
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
@@GodtrulylovesyouallWe believe in Jesus and the things he preached. We also believe he will return. We only do not believe he is God. What exactly are you saying, sir?
@@Titisope the way you believe in jesus is the way some people believe the earth is flat you confused mary with miram which is very easy to do in arabic
the original “god” of Mecca was el baal, as in the baal of the Old Testament. Through research and deduction you can trace baal back to Satan. Satan can disguise himself as an angel, Muhammad was visited by an “angel” The Christian Bible written 600 years before Islam was first founded said Satan is the greatest deceiver, Muslims say Allah is the greatest deceiver. Seems they’re right, and fell for it themselves.
@@Titisopesee but if the word of God cannot be corrupted and the Bible is the word of God (which is entirely correct in the Muslim faith) then how can you deny Jesus is God when he says it himself? Also Galatians 1:8 says any doctrine after this, even one brought by an angel is from Satan. Muhammad was a slaveowner, and fully grown sleeping with a 9 year old. Jesus had no wife, his mission here was to save. Not indulge in primal pleasures. Muhammed waged invasions to spread Islam. Jesus died as a martyr to save us from a death we deserve.
The one that mentions that the quran talks about Jesus "isa" but the Bible doesn't mention muhammad... He was born almost 500 years after the last book of the Bible was written. Why would the Bible mention someone who hadn't been born yet?
Better question
Why does the Quran mention the bible, but the Quran is from it?
The Muslims will never admit this..they just say oh the Bible is corrupted. But most of them.have never even held a Bible..also many Muslims are illiterate so how do they know what any religious book says. Do you think most Muslim women in Afghanistan can read the Quran.
@@dorcaso1619I’ll ask you a better question, why does the Bible mention the Torah, but the Torah came before the Bible?
Isn't this the same way that the torah doesn't mention Jesus. A lot of the prophecies attributed to Jesus are somehow ommitted from the Torah?
@@ayomideolajide3472
You do know, the Old Testament, of the Bible, is the Torah 🤔?
13 VALID REASONS WHY AND HOW MUSLIMS ARE THE TRUE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS THAN CHRISTIANS:
1. Jesus ( Pbuh ) taught that there is only One God and Only God should be worshipped as taught in
Deut 6:4, Mark 12:29. Muslims also believe this as taught in the Qur’an verse 4:171.
2. Jesus ( Pbuh ) didn’t eat pork as taught in Leviticus 11:7 , and neither do Muslims as taught
in the Qur’an verse 6:145.
3. Jesus ( Pbuh ) greeted with the words “as salaamu alaikum” ( Peace be with you ) in John 20:21. Muslims also greet each other this way.
4. Jesus ( Pbuh ) always said “God Willing” ( Inshallah ), Muslims say this too before doing anything as taught in the Qur’an verses 18:23-24.
5. Jesus ( Pbuh ) washed his face, hands, and feet before praying. The Muslims do the same.
6. Jesus ( Pbuh ) and other prophets of the Bible prayed with their head to the ground ( See Matthew 26:39 ). Muslims do too as taught in the Qur’an verse 3:43.
7. Jesus ( Pbuh ) had a beard and wore a throbe. It is Sunnah for Muslim men to do the same.
8. Jesus ( Pbuh ) followed the law and believed in all the prophets,
( see Matthew 5:17 ). Muslims do
too as taught in the Qur’an verses 3:84, and 2:285.
9. Jesus’ mother Maryam ( Pbut ) dressed modestly by fully covering her body and wearing a headscarf ( hijab ) as found in 1 Timothy 2:9, Genesis 24:64-65, and Corinthians 11:6. Muslim
women modestly dress the same as taught in the Qur’an verse 33:59.
10. Jesus ( Pbuh ) and other prophets of the Bible fasted up to 40 days (see Exodus 34:28, Daniel 10:2-6. 1Kings 19:8, and Matthew 4:1-Muslims do so also during the month of Ramadan.
Muslims are required to fast the full obligatory 30 days ( See Qur’an 2:183 ), and others take it a step further by fasting an additional 6 days to increase their rewards.
11. Jesus ( Pbuh ) taught to say “Peace to this house” when entering it
( See Luke 10:5 ), and to also greet the people in the house with “peace be unto you”. Muslims do exactly what Jesus did and taught. When we enter our homes and the homes of others we say “Bismillah” and also greet with “as salaamu alaikum” ( Peace be upon you ) as taught in the Qur’an verse 24:61.
12. Jesus ( Pbuh ) was circumcised. Circumcision is 1 of the 5 fitrah in Islam, so Muslim men are required to be circumcised. According to the Bible in Luke 2:21, Jesus was eight days old when he was circumcised. In the Torah, Allah/God stated to the Prophet Abraham ( Pbuh ) that it is an
“Everlasting covenant”
( See Genesis 17:13 ). In the Qur’an verse 16:123 Muslims are required to
follow the religion of Abraham. The Prophet Muhammad ( SWS ) said, “The Prophet Abraham circumcised himself when he was eighty years old.”
( See Sahih hadith Bukhari, Muslim, and
Ahmad ).
13. Jesus ( Pbuh ) spoke aramaic and called God”Elah”, which is pronounced the same as
“Allah”. Aramaic is an ancient, Biblical language. It is one of the Semitic languages that also include Hebrew, Arabic, Ethiopic and the ancient Assyrian and Babylonian language of Akkadian.
The Aramaic”Elah” and the Arabic “Allah” are the same.
The Aramaic “Elah” is derived from the Arabic “Allah”, and it means “GOD”. “Allah” in Arabic also means”GOD”, the Supreme GOD Almighty. You can easilysee the similarity in their pronunciation so this concludes that the God of Jesus is also the God of the Muslims, of all mankind, and all that exist.
⚫ 🌸 Almighty God Allaah states in the (Noble Qur'an 3:64):
“..Say (O Muhammad Peace be upon him): "O people of the Scripture: Come to a word (God Name ﷲ Allah) that is similar between us and you, that we worship none but Allah ﷲ 👑 (Alone), and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah ﷲ Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims."
⚫🌸 Almighty God Allaah states in the Noble Quran : "..It is ﷲ (Allah) 👑 Who has created the heavens and the earth (Noble Qur'an Chapter 32:4).
⚫🌸 Genesis 1:1 First Bible First Chapter First Verse (Translations by Gideon).
ﷲ👑 السموات والارض في البدء خلق 👑
In the beginning Allaah 'ﷲ' created the heaven and the earth.
وَالحَياةُ الأبَدِيَّةُ هِيَ أنْ يَعرِفُوكَ أنتَ 👑 ﷲ 👑 الحَقِيْقِيُّ وَحدَكَ، وَأنْ يَعرِفُوا يَسُوعَ المَسِيحَ الَّذِي أرسَلْتَهُ
🌸 Now this is eternal life: that they know you Allaah 'ﷲ', the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent (John 17:3, Arabic Bible ERV)
⚫🌸 Bible Arabic: Smith & Van Dyke
John 8:42 :
فقال لهم يسوع لو كان 👑 ﷲ 👑 اباكم لكنتم تحبونني لاني خرجت من قبل 👑 ﷲ 👑 وأتيت. لاني لم آت من
🌸 "Jesus (Peace be upon him) said unto them : , If Allah ﷲ were your God, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from Allaah ﷲ neither came I of myself, but HE Allaah (ﷲ) sent me."
That water analogy was actually Genius😂😂
It's actually not. That analogy is an example of modalism. Modalism is a Christian heresy.
It differs in density, volume...
Christians really need to come up with better explanations
I honestly saw a pastor comparing the Trinity with the three headed dog from the Roman(idk if you know)
I was like what the heck?!!
It’s heresy.
That is just doing false paralels how can anything earthly be like god. Everything on this earth is temporary and will eventually pass on but god is eternal
@@egoquid8848 They're not trying claim that's how God is exactly.
I'm here waiting for the theists VS atheists episode. These ones are just moving around in circles. My own is correct. No, it's my own that's correct. I gained nothing here.
it can't really go beyond that, though. what more did you expect?
@@bluebellbeatnik4945 ergo, pointless. It’s a pointless argument that has no end.
their faith revolves around their own religious texts. what did you expect?
It can if they actually knew their history
@@kendrickcrain983 good point
Notice how only the christians said the other side is going to hell.
Notice how the Muslims also said the same thing
The other side actually did. They didn't just say it directly because apparently, it's not in the right to. But the Muslim cleric mentioned a person can only go to paradise if he dies in Islam. And the Muslim lady said she had made heaven because she is Muslim. So...las, las, both side believe the other side is going to hell. I didn't just like what the Christian brothers did, using one mouth to say "we're serving the same God" and the other mouth to say "but y'all on the other side gon burn in hell!"
Because it is the truth. Jesus is the Truth, the Life, and the Way.
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth.
The Muslims has no conviction and no truth to stand ten toes down.
Notice Surah 9:5 buddy …..
@@KingofgraceSARA💯❤️✝️
As an African this discussion scared me (Both sides). All I can say is one thing when we take any religion we all really follow through with it. I just wish we put this energy in other areas of life or atleast some energy.....
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
10:38 WOW THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL! Love that analogy. Amen
That's actually wrong. Completely wrong analogically
11:01 🤦♂God did not create man in his image or his likeness. Our senses and abilities are limited, while Allah's are UNLIMITED (literally). So, how did God create us in his image? what kind of madness is that? God's creations are INFINITE. These are pagan beliefs that where infiltrated into monotheism
For those who think Islam is a religion of peace;
“Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled”. - Qur’an 9:29
Lol, taking the verse out of context and not knowing why and when it was revealed.
You can’t just read it and understand it, you need to study the exegesis bro, do your homework before you talk.
@@mytuts_Okay Bro, go ahead and briefly explain the context. I was expecting this comment because I wanted to provoke a dialogue. 😂.
So, you’re welcome, let’s talk 😊
@@mytuts_ O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.
9:123
@@mytuts_ O Prophet, strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.
Let’s not forget ahadith.
Sahih Muslim 1:30
@@realtalkwithphil uhm bro, please read through the verse before and after all these verses you're cherry picking. That's the best way to really understand. If we're just provoking arguments, that means there was never any understanding intended in the first instance.
The young Christian man was contradicting himself. Jesus IS God. In Isa 9:6, Jesus was called the Mighty God, the Everlasting Father. The name of God is Jesus!!!
If you don’t serve Jesus, you don’t serve my God
I love that the Muslims stood their ground on that
To be a Christian means you are a follower of Christ. And to be a follower of Christ means that you have to worship the same God that Christ worshipped. Which is the Father, Jehovah (Yahweh ((YHWH)) ).
"Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God." John 20:17 . That scripture perfectly and explicitly states Jesus own words as to the relationship between us as humans and himself and us and humans, himself and the Father..... Our Father is also his Father and our God is also His God.... Any scripture in the Bible that is used to say that Jesus Christ is God is taken out of context....
Now let me explain Isaiah 9 and verse 6. Yes, Jesus Christ is the Mighty God and our Everlasting Father. He is Mighty God in the context of Co - Creator, when the Father said unto him, Let us make man in our image. Genesis 1:26 ... He was directly associated with our creation. So he is our God in that context. Just as when my earthly father says to me, come Jeremai, let us build an aquarium, and we both build that aquarium together. However, I can only build as my father instructs me, 4. It is not my will, but his. So yes, I am a creator of the aquarium, but I am not the creator because all of the knowledge and instruction that I use to make the aquarium comes from my father. And yes, Jesus Christ is our everlasting Father. He bought us from this the curse of sin that our first human Father, Adam, sold us into.
Also, just because the Bible refers to him as father does not mean that he is THE FATHER. John Burke is my father and Reginald Burke is his father, my grand father. Both John and Reginald are my father's Because It is because of them both that I have life. But they are not equal. Both John and myself are children of Reginald. Both Jesus and ourselves are children of Jehovah. All scriptures point to this explicit fact. Any other scripture used to dispute this fact is taken out of context.
@jeremai1769 what's your denomination?
@@kage199x Dont have one
"Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?" 1 Cor 1:10--13
My conviction and my knowledge, should only be based on what is written, not what a particular denomination or a particular faith believes.
I use the most explicit scriptures in regards to a particular topic to dictate the context so that the less explicit scriptures will fall in line harmoniously.
@@kage199x Dont have one... Why do you ask?
@jeremai1769 was just wondering because I never seen a non-trinitarian believe in the pre-excistence of Christ before
im really ashamed of my christain brothers for saying the muslims are going to hell, but also the reason mohammed is not in the bible is because he didnt exist in the bible days, he was born 500+ years after the death of christ.
For the Christians, is what they said in their book? Was it factual?
jesus was prophisiezed in the old testemant
But it's the truth.. Who do not expect Jesus is going to hell..
Finish and kla
But its the truth, its said in bible. whosoever does not believe in Jesus christ the son shall perish and muslims do not believe Jesus christ is the God
Why are you ashamed? can someone who rejects Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour go to heaven?
I wish I could join this convo virtually
Same
I wish to be a panelist in this discussion. The pastor didnt do enough justice as i expected. He should study more.
Both parties aren’t well equipped or informed on what they’re defending. They are plenty of lies told in this video, and no one to point it out.
The most important comment
As a Muslim, I can testify what the Muslims said in the video are not lies. All their points regarding the concept of God (Allah), prophets, heaven and hell align with the basic Islamic theology mentioned in the Quran. In contrast, many Christians themselves disagree with the Christians in the video because the core concept of Christianity which is the trinity was never mentioned concisely in the Bible. Hence, many Christians started to make up their own believe regarding the religion based on their own common sense.
Someone once said " a woman defending Islam it's like a chicken 🐔 defending KFC🍗."
@@jaesall3519 why, just because they have to cover their hair??? the rights for women are great in number. one of them is they can demand ANYTHING in any amount before marriage. They were the first women who were allowed to own property. I could go on.
@@abdelrahmanmahmoud3531the same is for Christianity. New testament Corinthians demands women to cover their head, Timothy demands for women to remain silent. The Old Testament is filled with misogyny as well, women are property of men. If a young girl is raped, the man must pay the father and marry her as his punishment. In war time, young girls are kept as plunder, spoils of war, property.
Aminat ❤ is so funny “Dey play “ 😂 .I love the way she defends Islam 😊
Thx 😊 for subtitles
why? you don't need them.
@@bluebellbeatnik4945 resopectfully i do
Pastor rock here brings such a good point about why it’s so important to believe in Jesus according to scripture ❤ 19:40
As a Christian, it's extremely important for you to know the WORD,CARRY THE WORD AND BECOME THE WORD. Because how can you say we serve the same GOD
The way we can easily see the faults in others religion, but quickly overlook ours , should tell you something 😅
Christians never defend their religion when it is attacked because it is so faulty and contradicionary, they just attack others to distract
How would a Christian in the 21st century with the availability of the internet today not know Islam and Christianity are world apart & also do not worship the same God?!
Please Christians & Muslims look up Sam Shamoun.
Period. I listen to God Logic too!
Or they should look up Matt Dillahunty or Alex O'connor for the undiluted truth.
@@kwabenanketia3418atheism is the truth? 🤡
Frrr, I felt so disappointed watching cause there's so many questions they could have asked the muslims
I love the muslim representatives.They really did justice based on their capabilities
No they are stupid
The uncles first senetence was wrong. He incorrectly translated the kalimah
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
I wish I get to be invited one day
Interesting topics for us to debate would be
1. Mohammeds view of the bible
2. trinity vs tauhid
3. Morality of the prophet
4. Is Mohammed prophesied about in the Bible
5. Is the quran perfectly preserved
Its painful that some christians don't even know how to defend their faith
43:57
There are not only two commandments, rather those two are the greatest commandments by Jesus in Mark 12:28-31.
In John 14:15, Jesus said: “If you love me, keep my commands.”
He was referencing the Ten Commandments which He gave Moses. Read Exodus 19 & Exodus 20.
That pastor Dey lie ,,, believe in one God then the second one keep the commandments
As a Pastor you need to dig deeper about other practices. In scripture the Bible says if you deny the Son you deny the Father.
Allah is not a Father and he doesn’t have a son.
Therefore we do not serve the same God. It’s really truly that simple. Much love❤!
I think the fundamental difference is no matter what Christian say Muslim will only see Jesus as a prophet. To them there is no equivalent to God, nonetheless a prophet. Christians have accepted Jesus as their God, by their own logic. Muslims refuse to equate anybody else as God but God
So you believe in there being 2 Gods? 😂😂😂😂😂
@@sgnixxelb I’m speaking on the ego of MAN, such as you are displaying right now. Godspeed
@@turnerxrashawn im not talking to you, respectfully, but @beat
The bible is not the word of God. It was copied from ancient texts in sumerian text, the emerald tablets, the enuma elish, the Epic of Gilgamesh, u name it. Go do research. Some God killing children, u think this is the creator of all? Think again
I wish the Christians in this episode did a more rounded research.
💯💯💯
They can't do a rounded research because Christianity itself is not firm😂
What other rounded research apart from an understanding of the bible
Dey play, u think its only in this episode 😂 try go on any other comparative discussions abt Muslims and Christians it's all the same result
@@hassanabdulmalikodunayo2701exactly too many beliefs under one religion
Both religions did not originate from Nigeria or west Africa. Why are we debating on this.
Were there no religions in Nigeria before Islam and Christianity?
Sad!!!! Our ancestors are rolling in the grave
😂crazy lol everyone is just going through hell like a broad lol😂😂😂😅
Because this has caused war and have many people lose their lives in this country.
Thank you! I refused to believe out of all tribes in Nigeria only Christianity and Islam are the only ones
Our "ancestors" couldn't save themselves from the colonizers that invaded the country.
The fact that it was spread by people doesn't invalidate the truth of it.
These debates are necessary because there is a God.
And we need him, we need the right one, not ogun or osun that couldn't even save themselves and require blood sacrifices from their followers.
Debates like these are necessary because every god calls for exclusivity in worship but we have thousands, and only one is right. Not two not three and people need to be pointed in the right direction.
May God point us in the right direction.
@@Ifpurplewasagirland we can't save ourselves from ourselves, look at the state of the country with all the churches and mosques. Mind you we are still colonized (neocolonialism)
Can you answer this question how many personality to do you have as a human?
Explain body ,soul and spirit
We as human have this abilities to have three personality then what more of God.
“For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”
John 3:17 KJV
Saved from what? From what god is going to do to you if you don’t worship him? Because he requires a blood sacrifice to forgive up for your existence?
Nice flex
Son of GOD???No there is no son or daughter of GOD. He is the Son of a human Lady .Mary..... That's the truth.❤
If they belief they worship Allah then we do worship same God but if they say they worship Jesus a messenger of Allah then we don’t worship same God
Allah is not the father tho….so not the real God
@@Ytulipss Allah is the creator. Jesus spoke Aramaic, do you know how to say God in Aramaic? ALLAHA.
@@sammy-er7onWhich means God and it’s very generic. Anyone who speaks Arabic or Aramic can say Allah and believe in a different God. Is God’s name in the Hebrew scriptures spelled out the the Quran?
@@sammy-er7onJesus was Jewish, the Bible speaks of god as “YHWH”
@@jamie5mauserAllah is just the Arabic word for God, and is how Arab Christians refer to God. Deus in Latin, God in English, Elaha in Biblical Aramaic (native language of Jesus), Khuda in Persia.
The guy on turtle neck said; he is a clergy??? The church he Pastor’s should revoke his clergy.
Yeah, he is not well informed.
The lady in the green comparing God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit to water, ice, and air is false. Because the Father doesn’t change to become the Son and neither foes the son change to become the spirit. They are three distinct beings that work well together. They are always in harmony.
You didn't understand her point. She said, water is one substance. You can have water as ice(The father), you can have water as steam(the Holy spirit)and you can have water as liquid(the son), but its is still one water(God). She didn't mean that God the father changes to the son, or He changes to the holy spirit. She just means they are 3 persons in One which is just God.
@@snaymncinah this is false. You would need three distinct things. Water as ice, water as liquid, water as vapor is inferencing that God changes forms. Jesus is God but he is NOT the Father. Ice is water but it’s not liquid. But under the right condition it can be. That is not the case with God. Under no circumstance can the Father be the Son. Because at the end of the day, yes it’s water but it can change its molecular composition to become a different state. God doesn’t change to become a different state. The question to ask is can ice, water, and vapor be in equilibrium? If so, for how long before one state takes over
Unfortunately, the analogy that she used of using water is classed as a heresy. Classed as modalism.
When describing the Trinity, is best to use the theological terms indore to get the point across because any comparison to rule, world, phenomenon is going to lead to one or more heresies.
Three distinct persons, not beings** That aside, I agree that the analogy she used was not it.
@@djidjine5082 you are thinking from a wordly point of view you have to understand the God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit exist outside time space, SCIENCE and the heavens itself. im just going to leave you with lots of love regardless of if you get what i say but i pray that God unhardens your heart and gives you wisdom and discernment to understand what the analogy truly meant.
pastor rock was spittin🔥🔥
spittin poop
@@MaariyaArifspitting in your mom
At least spell right
I notice a trend with people who are anti Christian and they find it as a way to be edgy, which is honestly pathetic. 🙄
Anyways, “how Jesus became god” by Bart Erman explains in detail how modern day Christians began to view Jesus as God whereas the original followers of Jesus did not. Yusha Evans also talks a lot about this topic.
Most Christians don’t even know that the trinity (Trinitas) is a relatively modern concept conjured during Constantine’s rule (by a man named father Athanacius) and many Christians were actually killed to enforce it. This is not even a conspiracy it’s well known historical fact and it’s wild that most people don’t even do research at least to a small level before risking their afterlife. Just blind following and dogma.
So barterhman is the new prophet of islam cuz bart erhman destroy the entire religion of islam bart wrote and i quote it is a fact of history that Jesus was crucified that alone disprove the entire religion of islam and its comic book the quran by disproving historical facts
Half right, some of the original followers did believe, like Mathew, Mark, Luke, John & Paul. Also many more. Question, why do think so many Christians risked there life believing Jesus Christ was God in the 1st century? Also, the Trinity is revealed in & throughout Scrpitures & was believed for over 2000 years.
Misinformation!!!!
I wonder why this people can nit understand the fact that Muslims believe in Jesus(Proohet Yisa). And they keep saying they would go to hell. Who are they to decide? Even as christians to christains , you cant tell one sister will go to hell.
literally
you believe in a false Jesus like comics have a false caricature of god
Yes you going to hell. You don't believe Jesus as your Lord and Savior
Believing is God’s Son is different from believing someone is a prophet. Demons believe in Jesus, they believe that there is one God and that he is the Messiah/a prophet. What is the difference between you and the demons?
At the end of the day, most of you all are practising your parent's religion. You would have been on the other side of the conversation simply by virtue of who gave birth to you.
I'm born as christian and now i'm muslim. Nothing to do with my parents.
@@vylc1611 it actually does in a way, your parents introduced to religion as a whole, later you feel like you have to be in a another religion for whatever reason you switched, there is a reason why you didn't completely ditched religion entirely. You feel like you need religion of some sort which was initially introduced to you by your parent
Yep both religion have the same source , they are just different sects . however both are made up religions .
@@Mkhl4Sure dawg u cant tell her how she felt💀 only she knows best stop tryna explain her life story without knwoing a single thing about maybe she left not because of that reason but jst because she reasearched islam and felt more comfornt in it
@@vylc1611 Islam is just a copy of the bible but twisted it to give Muhammad more glory. Soon THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE is going to eradicate Islam because Islam is a lie. Islam cant even tell you about israel, cant tell you about king david sins, they all think the prophets were sinless (which is wrong). Muhammad got rekt by a Jewish women and soon going to HELL because HE 1000% FAILED MOSES LAW.
The girl on Green clothes is heating the nail she knows what she's saying,that is true Christian 🙏🙏🙏🙏
11:42 😂😂
Christian brother : if we can see, it is because God can see, if we can talk it is because God can talk
Muslim sister : what about those who are blind ? It is because God can’t see? …
😂😂😂 that was crazy !!
Has Pastor Rock heard about the crusades? The Salem trials?
The crusades were in response to the violence against the Jews and Christian’s by the muslims at the time. The crusades didn’t just fall out of thin air. If you are attacking me, I will definitely defend my self, that was simply what the crusades were about.
The quran teaches to kill the infidel. New testament scripture doesn't teach it.
Yeah. What about the crusades??? Do you need me to educate you??!
Islam stared killing to conquer. Entered north Africa, Asia, turkey, Spain.... just killing and taking the countries. Killed Jews and Christians...
Crusaders came to defend... do a well grounded research.
You are referencing events from medieval times. The fact is christians today do not actively and openly kill ppl for blasphemy. Your whataboutism is totally redundant.
Dont try to come back with some lame anti christian rhetoric cos i am antitheist I find both Islam and Christianity to be systems of subjugation.
Has Soliu heard about the Arab slave trade? Armenian massacre
My brother. I am a Christian please we are not servicing the same God. May God bless this my sister for the analysis she gave the Muslims🙏 ❤
as a muslim, our holy book (the quran) is preserved in the same language (arabic) since its been revealed like 1400 years ago. if jesus spoke aramaic, why is it written in greek? so that doesn't make sense. also in the christian world, jesus 'died for their sins', so what the point of our existence? if christians can do whatever they want, bc jesus 'died for their sins' what is even life lol? .... a plethora of contractions! ignorance is bliss, allhamdulilah for being a muslimah.
Hi, to answer your question. That is definitely not the point of Christs sacrifice. His grace given to us through his death for our sins, it is not so we can take advantage of it. It even says in the bible that we should not take advantage of this grace. Romans 6:1-2 “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?.”
Because he died for our sins and rose back to life. We can now live the good life that God planned for us through the power and help of the Holy Spirit. And even when we sin (because we are human) Christ’s sacrifice pays for those sins so we will not be condemned for those sins. We can get back up again and continue walking with God. Hope this helps :).
Your logic is flawed. I can easily throw back the question, if Allah is all merciful, Muslims can do whatever they want. Christ came to show us how to live, died so that we may have life eternal, resurrected to fulfill the Word, as He is, and come back for His children.
@@Ivanabelle y’all let y’all religion get publicly disrespected😭… lil nas x made a whole music video disrespecting christianity. there’s no accountability in christianity, just as long as you believe in christ, all is well... yeah no thanks
@@reginaphalange93 most Christian media called him out? Once a person is made aware of their wrongs, it's between them and God. Lil Nas X doesn't represent Christianity, in fact very far from it. So very weird measurement of our faith but do as you please.
Aramaic was the primary language for Jewish people in Galilee and Judea. However, Greek was the lingua franca in the Eastern Mediterranean and the language of trade, culture, and Roman administration. Records (including the bible) document interactions between Jesus and non-Jewish individuals such as Roman centurions and Syro-Phoenician (Canaanite) people. So Jesus must have spoken Greek.
Please, can someone explain sharia and how it relates to Islam? 32:22
Sharia is the Islam law book
Like we have laws
Guys whenever u go for such debates atleast have some knowledge about Islam so that u can debunk then see that part when the lady asked whether there is apart where it's written to kill she should study the Qur'an for reference I can give just oneSura sura 9:29
Both sides don’t know their onions.
The Christian men speak a lot of English without actually saying anything. The woman in green might be an exception though.
Pastor Rock nailed it with the story of Cornelius.
Just bring people who do not only know about their religion but also understand other's perspectives, speak based on facts, and are open-minded.
Christians don’t know anything from there religon your average Muslim can recite more than 15 syrahs
Surah 9.29 in the Qur'an
Fight against those who do not believe in Allāh or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allāh and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth [i.e., Islām] from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah1 willingly while they are humbled.
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
1 samuel 15:3 much more grim
Religion divides people because there is different practices because Christians they say they believe in one God and Muslims they say they believe in one God but the practice is very different so this is why there is such a division between each religious groups those that believe in many entities and
deities or multiple Gods and Goddesses so Christianity in Islam have different have different practice but they are they are some similarities for example Christians and Catholics and different group of Christians are very divided but they believe in one God but
there is different interpretation to the Bible but the Quran Muslim say that there's only one Quran but there's also different group of Muslims because there are a bit divided there are some Muslim women do not cover themselves and don't even wear a burka 0:00
Alhamdulilahi rubil alamin I thank God almighty for been a Muslim... I appreciate our brother and sister they did their best and well done to them... The only thing that they did not do is to ask for proof and evidence not from the Quran but the Bible
Mashallah I’m actually so happy seeing another Muslim in the comments among all those Christians saying that their religion is perfect 😊
Allhamdulillah brother Maybe it's cause Us Muslims don't got time to waste commenting like unemployed warrior's
@@melkhanya 😂
But when we start asking the Quran for historical proof it’s just claims at this point. Where is the historical proof of the Quran related to Jesus ?
@@beatforjesusbykellym2104 Uh You do realise that the Gospels themselves are aunothenthic scriptures from untrusted Authors that existed decades if not Hundreds of years after Isho/Issa's time with no Scriptures or Manuscripts written in Aramaic but kione Greek. Bedsides The Quran already Telling about Jesus and the Gospels not being authentic There's literally been Discoverys in the middle east and North Africa Discovered by the sayings of the Prophet SWT to this very timeline and his own back in 640 A.D where mentions Muslims were hears in Egypt by Sinai Bediouns 8 years after The Prophet Returned to Allah unlike the claimed 4 decades after Jesus SWT passing by some random man who had a different philosophical viewing of Christ than his own Followers.
Now tell Me why would I trust A book with False timelines secret Authors and Being Debunked by it's own scholars that had to look back at Muslims on Jesus's name and possibilities than
The Greatest Miracle of All to Hummanity the Qur'an
Repent to Truth before Damnation arrives I say I wish not for you to be in great Torment and suffering Ma'am
I felt Aminat when she said, “With the number of handsome Habibi, all those handsome Islamic guys, it can not work, I will never” 😂😅 Okayyyyy 🥰🫶🏽 Mashallah 🥰
sarcasm??
That's very shallow. Do all Muslim women think this way?
A lot of Muslim ladies prefer Christian guys because they think the Christians are calm and their guys are rowdy and wife beaters
💀💀??
Habibi with 4 wives and sex slaves 🤣😅😅😅😅😅 Quran 4:24, 33:50-51😅😅😅
Eish, my only suggestion is that you would've got a mixed Christian speakers. They all seem protestant - pentecostal or non denominational, but it would've been good to seen a catholic speaking on natural theology to the first question. Orthodox talk on the second prompt. Even could have had some Mormons or Adventist there
You won’t find this in Nigeria
Right? There would have been more nuance to the conversation. I love and appreciate how the Catholics know so much of church history.
@mazgermaine5471 there are 35 million catholics though in Nigeria
So the Christians can prove each other wrong. Lmao 😂
Mormons and Adventists follow un biblical doctrines 😭.
9:19 🤦♂The thing is that they don't even know what Jesus said because they don't his original revelation. All they have are alleged "translations" which were changed and modified, and have contradictions and mistakes. With THOUSANDS of different bibles in one language with different chapters and different things written, which one is the word of god? Where is the original revelation? when was it last seen? How did it disappear? the person who translated the bible that they use, did he have the original revelation? if no, how did he translate the word of god? If you say yes, how do you know?
I love this pastor! He never sugarcoated anything about Islam like that lady in Christ.
I don’t know why people are criticizing the Christians. They did a fantastic job. The reality is that there are no answers. We can only try to defend our positions. As for me, there is no one true religion. God is not a God of confusion. God is Love and that is all that matters.
And where did you get this quote "God is love"?
Do foreign based Nigerians vs Nigeria based Nigerians
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
@@Godtrulylovesyouall Jesus is a fictive character-- not real. there is no evidence of a blue eyed blonde jesus ever lived in ancient Israel.
The bible is an allegorical work stop reading it as literal historical book
The God of the Bible and the God of the Quran are referring to the same Person. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the same God that the Jews, Christians, and Muslims claim to worship. However, just because you claim to worship The same God doesn't mean that's how that God wishes to be worshipped. After the Israelites crossed the Red Sea, they made a golden calf, and just after they made it, Aaron said that it was a festival to Yahweh. (YHWH) (The Aramaic Personal name for God) In their minds they were worshipping their God. However, they were just not worshipping him the way that he wants to be worshipped. And that sums up the major reason for division in religion. People tend to worship God how they want to worship him instead of how he wants to be worshipped.
The aramaic name of God is elah/Allaha.
Jesus according to the Bible used to pray the exact way prophet Muhammed prayed.
The oldest Bible isn't even written in its original language.
Som of the oldest bibles claim jesus wasn't crucified.
Bible was written without the existence of Jesus at that time unlike the quran wich was "publicly" for everyone to write and hear and see and also by "the prophet" who sent it.
I can't say I have that much knowledge but knowing the most schoolars agree that the bible was changed and you can find 3000 verses that was added or removed wich explains the numbers of the verses.
It just makes me not lean towards Christianity.
@@omgman928 Elah is the Aramaic word for God just as Allah is the Arabic word for God. not his personal name . God is just a title, not a name.
"And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them." Exodus 6:3 KJV ....
Jehovah in English Yahweh in Hebrew Yahuh and/or Yahwah (يَهْوَه) in Arabic.
I can definitely understand your apprehension with regards to choosing belief system based on the claims of corruption of the scriptures, especially with so many different translations of the Bible.
What I will encourage you to do is read both the Quran and the Bible. I personally find the Bible more specific and explicit in identifying and answering more important questions of existence. What you will have to do is to search and research on your own all while honestly and wholeheartedly asking the Father for guidance with constant prayer and supplication.
@@omgman928I hope you realize what you have today isn’t the original Quran and Uthman burnt the first Quran after the death of Muhammad. Most Muslims are bn brainwashed into believing same thing about Christianity by reading the footnotes and thus making them not able to think outside the box. Read the Bible and Quran (without footnotes) for yourself and ask questions then you will see the truth
Ameen bro, these people in the comments act like there's more than one God by saying it's not the same.
@@sgnixxelb because the Muslim God gave different rules to follow compared to Christian God so it cannot be the same God.
Please if you want to hold another one, please I'm down to represent islam, the people u brought for islam are good but please I'm down
The Steve Jobs guy just dey burst my head 😂
Religion has shown us Shege Banza Uku in this Africa…
Every race has their own God except Africans
Indians - Hindus
Chinese - Buddhists
Whites - Jews/ Christians
Arabs - Islam
Africa - ???????
I’m proudly Muslim, However I can never ever condemn any other religion as they are all
“MEANS OF COMMUNICATING AND CONNECTING WITH A SUPERIOR BEING ( GOD)” just through different forms and religions..
No one way (religion) is better than the other in the grand scheme of things …
Look at it this way … you want to travel to Lagos, there are soo many ways to get there.. you can go through Enugu, kaduna, or Kwara… because you chose to go through Kwara doesn’t mean that me that chose to go through Kaduna is wrong.. to each their own …. Remain blessed I love you soo much 😘😘
You say every race has their own religion, Indians isn't a race, Chinese isn't a race, Arabs isn't a race, and neither is africa a race. And if you use a metaphorical statement to talk about how this religion is the same thing but a different path is taken, you cannot talk about this certain race not having a realigion. The one true religion is christianity. I don't need to go back and forth with a person who is taken a different instead of the one true route. Plus, islam has like 5 books and like scrolls or something like that. That says one thing in one and says another in another book. And also, doesn't surah 9 verse 29 say that you should fight those that do not believe in isalm? Just saying...
Exactly this!
@@otdavid_I hope you’re the most righteous person o with the way you’re talking abt Christianity
@@otdavid_explain this to me please, How is Jesus God, and was birthed by Mary, A human that was created by God?? You’re saying Mary was created by God and later gave birth to God? Absolutely Ridiculous.
@@otdavid_ I literally don’t get your point…but OK 👍🏾
These guys are not sound at all. All the intellectuals in here will be so tired of this video. Like they are not educated in this matter at all. see poor logic smh
Abi, I'm a Christian and I was screaming shut up 😂😂. If I'm not certain on something, I don't have a reasonable answer I'm not speaking. The Muslims have said we don't worship the same God and you are still forcing them, next you say they are going to hell 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️. If they didn't stand on the first point, the hell issue won't have been so painful to watch
I agree it’s only God that will judge anyone on where to go
Please read Mathew 12:24-40 you'll understand we don't serve the same God. This people are telling you they serve the same God and you're insisting we're serving the same God.
It's very interesting because this debate if Christians and Muslims well as a Christian we believe in one God but normally I am Catholic but it's the same anyway but the reason why people questioned if Christians and Muslims worship the same God because there's a different practice to the Bible and the Quran oh and by the way when I discovered that in the Bible it says that Christians are not allowed to eat pork because it's unclean so what can I say
about that😅😂 I am a pork either but I am not allowed to eat pork🐷🐽🥓🥓 so what do Christians have to say about that because I'm a Christian myself but Roman Catholic I still eat pork but I'm not allowed to eat pork so we should also here is The proof that some practice have some
similarities when it's about not eating pork but I still eat pork anyway so it's Funny laughing my face off LOL 46:09
This video was pointles because the people in the video don’t know each others religion history 😤
This one will be heated
Asinnn
It wasn't.
@@KingofgraceSARA😂😂😂😂
Right
I've seen heated debates with Christians bringing Muslims to check the Muslims on their faith..
This one wasn't that heated.
Why on earth do we have 2 Muslims and 3 Christians. Are you telling me there's no Muslim in earth ready to have this conversation.
If you paid attention at the beginning. They wrote that the last Muslim speaking didn't make it or show up
@@gloriousilashe8150 let babies don't listen and cry
Jesus Christ will return, if you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father. Turn from your evil deeds before it's too late. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. He will judge every thought and action with His Father. If you are ashamed of Him, He will be ashamed of you before His Father. If you deny Him, He will deny you before His Father....,.
@@Godtrulylovesyouall Oshey Legend of the seeker. Al these attribute you're attaching to Jesus that he doesn't even know about. What exactly does God do in the whole picture. He just sits down and stretch his leg abi😂😂😂
My own is that if Jesus is God who did Jesus Christ Fast and Pray to ? 🤔 who’s receiving his prayers if Christian call him God , And is it Possible for God to be Fasting and Praying to himself? 🤔🤔
The initial question should have been who is Jesus?
The both Muslims tried but they didn't have a sound knowledge of (Tawheed) oneness of Allah and the criteria on how people will go to heaven according to Islam.
He quoted the verse where Allah said : Don't die except in the state of Islam. And Allah said whoever dies associating partner or calling Jesus God he/she will not enter and never enter Paradise. No matter how good they do in this life. Any act of kindness a non Muslim do, the reward will be given to them in this life and whoever come with any thing that is not Islam all his/her deed will be thrown away.
Both Islam and Christianity believe that salvation is only through their religion.
Also this was shared with me today by my good friend Yahuda and I think it’s applicable this situation.
As Christian’s we must aim to embody these scriptures
2 Timothy 2:24-26
English Standard Version
24 And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil,
25 correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth,
26 and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will.
Even if we disagree we still love our neighbour because we are all made in the image of God.
12:43 Prophet Muhammad is not in the Bible because he wasn't born until 570 AD... The Bible ends with the story of the Apolostles between 4-95 AD. Any Prophet existing after that date are not included.
Muhammad cannot be in the Bible cuz he is not a real prophet but a self created one,Jesus said he will send a comforter a spirit not a human
Jesus is in the Torah which was written thousands of years before Jesus was born on earth
The funny thing about this is that’s in Quran it states that we serve the same God Surah 29:46. In the Bible it states that if you don’t believe in the son of God… you gonna perish, John 3:16. My fellow Christians we do not worship the same God as the Muslims always stand by the truth. Our God, we call him Father, their God, they call him Master.
Please that's not what John 3:16 says
It's state that so God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that who so ever Believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life
@@favourotusanya If your a Muslims you believe that God doesn’t have a Son nor is he a Father. So, you used this scripture to support his point basically.
God sent his son into the world who was Jesus. You do not accept Jesus as God’s Son. So, you cannot have everlasting life if you do not accept Jesus as God’s Son. Do you understand?
29:39 you don’t judge a group of people based on one person’s actions ,Christianity is also a religion of peace but how many Christians are in peace with one another ,does that still means Christianity is not a religion of peace ,also the sharia law also relates to the law of Moses where you could look at a lady and have your eyes plucked out
I have a question, Uthman danfodio did what, and he fought wars to conquer states for islam, those who refuse to become islamic state
it would have been good to get ex-muslims who are now christian as they would have been better equpped to understand the muslim perspective and give insight on how Chrisitianity is the truth.
play, ex Christians nko
So ex Christians who are now Muslims to debate the ex muslims
and ex christians who became muslim would be good
i’m sure there will be LOTS of them
you think you did something there LMAOO
It is offensive to call my Lord and Savior a prophet. 🙏🏾
It says it in the Bible that Jesus was a prophet. So I guess your own Bible is offensive to you. 😂🤣
@@Justbored_12Kindly quote the scripture(s).🤡
And I will quote you places where it says He is God and Saviour of the universe.
@@Justbored_12where in your bible did they say Jesus was a prophet 👀?
@@Justbored_12the Bible has way more offensive things in it: rape, slavery, genocide…
@@UdoyeTobechukwuJesus was absolutely an apocalyptic prophet in the Bible
26:05 if this guy is a pastor and wants to go far, he should study more. He should look into the life of Muhammad and read the Quran especially what is prescribed against infidels. Obviously not everyone will do that, but Muhammad did and so did Usman Dan Fodio that was mentioned by the Muslim cleric. Usman's legacy is in history books for anyone curious to read, I'm pretty sure Google will speed up the search. Just type Ali Dawah or Apostate Prophet: one is a devout Muslim, the other has left it, but they both expose the bloody side of Islam that people refuse to admit. I have some Muslim friends, my boss and colleagues are Muslims (I'm in Rivers State sef). Just like Christians don't do everything in the Bible, that's why many Muslims are friendly too
Because I have forgotten the exact verse in the Quran where Muhammad told his followers to kill non believers and apostates, I refrained from commenting on the question Esther (the lady on green) asked the Muslim cleric saying "abi is there any place in the Quran that says you should kill?"
Both Christianity and Islam started in the Middle East, the former being 500-600 years earlier though. However, the founders of both taught their followers differently. Jesus never taught His disciples to kill non believers or apostates, Muhammad did (random reader, pardon me for forgetting the Quranic verse for this). Islam spread through violence and conquest, Christianity spread through persecution (like the more the early Church was persecuted by ancient Rome, the larger it became). There was one era, I think the 13 and 14 century when Christians were violent (the Crusades) but take a deep study on why that happened and you'll realize they weren't killing people for not believing Christianity; they were trying to claim their land or so back (seriously, forgive me for not being so sure about this facts)
So let's not do what Esther did, counting the few Muslims we know who are peaceful and using them to judge the whole religion as peaceful. Are we not seeing what's happening in the news? All over the world! Most Muslims act violently in the name of Islam. How many Christian led terrorist groups do you know? Shouldn't that tell us something? Of course, we could have dismissed all this as just behaviours of extremists and fanatics but when we check the Quran, we see that it supports this extremists.
Okay, bye
Madam what does the Qur'an prescribed against the Infidels?
7:06- the difference is our God stayed as the supreme entity, yours evolves into having a son and being a spirit…and the Quran does not have the biblical quote “created in Gods image”
Here's a summarized list of popular English translations of the Quran:Salimat😂😂😂
*1. Sahih International - Clear, accessible, modern language.
*2. The Noble Quran - Detailed with parenthetical explanations and footnotes.
*3. Abdullah Yusuf Ali - Poetic style, extensive commentary.
*4. Marmaduke Pickthall - Literary style, close to the Arabic.
*5. Muhammad Asad - Scholarly, with historical and philosophical context.
*6. Abdul Majid Daryabadi - Linguistic and historical insights.
*7. Maulana Wahiduddin Khan - Simple and easy to understand.
*8. A. J. Arberry - Focuses on literary and poetic elements.
*9. Talal Itani - Concise, modern, and accessible.