How Wealthy is Master Chief? | Lore and Theory
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2024
- In this episode: We do the maths to figure out just how much money the UNSC would have to give the Chief in back pay if he chose to retire from active duty! This is a fun one!
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4 mil sounds like a lot, but it feels so small for LITERALLY SAVING HIS SPECIES.
and like every living thing in the galaxy.... MULTIPLE TIMES
That’s why SEALs get out and go to the private sector.
I imagine they’d give him whatever he wanted, were he to retire. He could also make a fuck ton doing speeches and books
I wonder if he got any salvage for the recovery of Covenant and Forerunner Tech?
That's the government for you
The real question is: Can Halsey claim every spartan as a dependent on her tax forums?
You know for a fact she did but properly in the ill gotten gains form on her tax return since the program was breaking so many laws. Dr. Halsey doesn't mess with the IRS.
@archerstown The one organization is more scary than the flood, and ONI combined the IRS
The IRS is actually ONI section 0.
MJOLNIR-ARMOUR/EGYPTIAN-POWER ARMOUR/POWER-ARMOUR-COOLANT-SYSTEM/VENTILATION-SYSTEM
A Egyptian power armour will need small, twin ventilation and coolant system. These will be outfitted near the shoulder [blades] of the wearer/user. They will resemble large, bulky protrusions (like twin backpacks) that system from the shoulder area, as though they were wings. This complex ventilation system is what makes the power armour comfortable to wear for extended periods of time. Like the life support system, the ventilation and coolant system will need to be monitored and regulated by an in-built Ai system.
Update (08/03/2022): I wonder if slime-mold [technology] can be utilized to optimise the efficiency of the ventilation system, i.e. to integrate a thin suit-made of living slime mold (if successful, this would also help to minimise weight of the power armour, thus aiding and ensure that energy is spent elsewhere). The slime-mold suit will need to make contact with the wearer/user; where it can conduct heat and other biological waste (such as sweat, and potentially dead blood cells from a bleeding wound) away from the user, and expel it near the air-ducts or any other preferred location.
NOTE: Egyptian power-armour will combine the functionality of a thin space suit (like that seen in "space X's space suit"), a basic medical, life support system and monitors, and finally a knights suit of armour. The suit will electronic, and obviously computerized (assisted by a combination of AI systems). When it action, it will be somewhat fluent, and capable of making fluid action and movement, despite being a robotic suit (LLMs that are dedicated to mimicking natural body moment in fluid motion will comprise the majority of the suit's AI output). Lastly, the suit will need to be water resistant (water resistant spray, that is difficult to chip and wear out after extended usage will be preferred), and its ventilation system will be integrated with a small filtration system. This will make the suit resistant to poison or environments with airborne, hazardous substance.
NOTE: A tough plastic material should be utilised on the exterior of the [Egyptian] power-armour. While being weather resistant and durable, its primary pose will be to give the power armour form (so that it looks futuristic and formidable-further adding to its ability to function as a deterrence), as well as double as additional shock-absorption/shock-dampener. The material will then need to be painted with metallic paint, so as it give it a metallic aesthetic in its composition (deceit/material mimicry).
You Max out at 3 kids.
Chief sitting down and chatting with regular troops in the chow hall:
"Wait, you mean you guys are getting paid?!"
I think he wouldn't even think about it, or care, but they surely would be curious enough to ask him... "So, Chief, like, are you getting paid extra for being a spartan?"
"I never asked." Seems like a proper response to that.
@CombatMagic I'd watch a movie where chief being si famous for political reasons is forced to take leave on a planet without his armor because its unsc property so no one knows who he is besides a really tall guy wearing jeans and unsc pt shirt finding out what he struggled so hard to fight for. AND THIS TIME DONE RIGHT PARAMOUNT!!!
@@bl00dth1rsty9 hell, I'll be fine with a 20-page comic of that!
Reminds me of a Red VS Blue skit where Doc speaks to Washington about job advantages
"TellmeyouATLEASTget Overtime !
-SHUT UP!!!!"
"master chief mind telling me what you're doing?" "sir. filing my taxes"
Fun fact, you don't pay taxes while on deployment in the US military. You still need to file taxes though.
@@TyllerBoom Well, you better not pay fucking taxes if you're serving in the military funded by those taxes. Imagine... Giving money to fund the organization that pays your checks, so you can give money to the organization that pays your checks and... yeah.
@@darkySp Wait until you find out about government work. Government funds agency, agency pays salary/hourly to employee, employee pays a % back as taxes to the government. God bless the USA
@@malderino3515 The biggest business in the world, brought to you by the United States of America!
And he's still in debt for the first set of Mk 4 Mjolnir
He's going to be in This Man's Army until he is... 510 years old
Black project, it'd be bad for business if they made him pay for it.
Considering the amount of Covenant war material he's destroyed I think he's paid his armor debts off
As everyone knows: when you get assigned to a tank unit in the army, you have to buy the tank 🤦
Don't forget all the pelicans, warthog, ships, and weapons he lost damaged or destroyed
If I was in charge of UNSC or UEG I would just give the man a blank check. He's saved humanity so many times he can just have anything he wants he's earned it.
He'd probably give it back to u, give that to the covenant
This is probably the most likely thing barring something insane like having a whole planet for himself, I have little doubts that if his demands were reasonable or weren't against the interest of the UNSC that he would be granted it. I would argue the same is probably true for the other spartan 2s and most other Spartans if they desired such except maybe the Spartans 4s but that would probably change with time as well. Besides why would they want the public relations disaster of denying a savior of humanity.
Yeah I’d be willing to bet they’d give him any commodity he asked for, and multiple houses. I don’t think they’d give him a skyscraper, but they’d probably buy him a penthouse
Considering what he did for humanity, fighting to defend the species as a whole, which in the Halo universe aren't confined to a single planet like us,but live on countless others,we can assume that the human population is way more than the 8 billions we have today, I think it's safe to assume he'd get more than a skyscraper if he wanted to.
But,we know Chief, he'll settle for something reasonable,even mundane and ordinary.
I'd like Chief to have his "Warrior in a Garden" moment. I wish Microsoft had given him a happy ending at this point, mostly because he's just so tired (conceptually and literally). 4 was a perfect place to end on for him, they just needed to go *a little bit further* with it. He wouldn't have been caught in all their messy writing that came afterwards, too.
If they had retired him and focused on some of the side content (like the books), and started over with a new Spartan 3/4, maybe their games wouldn't have been so harshly disliked.
"Master Chief, you mind telling me what you're doing at the bank?"
"Sir. Securing the bag."
😂😂👍
Chiefs bank account and wallet "I keep it loaded, son"
I understand that reference… Halo CE, The Pillar of Autumn, Captain Keyes…
😂 he gots that Cash flow . Fa sho
There's one more thing to factor in. In Halo Escalation we see that Thorne has an action figure of Master Chief. So that would mean Chief should receive royalties for his likeness being used for merchandising.
if it's an action figure, you likely only see the armor and not himself, the Navy or maybe whatever corporation that was responsible for the production of his armor would probably be entitled to those royalties.
@@mazhiwezakizo3513
If they called it Master Chief on the box. and they probably did, they definitely aren't.
There’s probably a video game called Halo as well where you play as master chief taking down the covenant. I bet he gets royalties for that
@@Tokyoprism I feel like the alien market for that game would be very limited lmaooo
@@dist0rted320 You ever a hear of a little game known as "Dead by Daylight"?
Jorge does state as a throwaway line that Spartans get paid the big bucks. I got it when I headshotted a grunt in the Visegrad Relay mission.
That's a phrase often said at blue collar jobs where you aren't being paid much, though, so Jorge might be saying that he actually gets paid too little for his work.
@@rootsnootthnute8598It's kind of an odd line for a Spartan to toss out either way, although I always got the sense that Jorge was intended to be similar to Kurt - you know, an SII that tends to interface more with other personnel, which also kind of explains why he works well in a team of SIIIs.
@@rootsnootthnute8598 I mean, Noble Team are all pretty highly ranked Spartans. Just based on that, they're likelymaking Mint compared to chief. So stated, considering Spartans have no next of Kin, high pay scales don't mean much when they're more likely to die than to retire and take thier backpay.
I'd imagine their pay would be better than typical soldiers/officers. If they do manage to live to retirement you'd want them to get something nice, big and quiet so they can't tell anyone about the lives they lived.
There have been a few Spartans that left service, but there will never be true peace for the Master Chief. He's been through too much to try and live a normal life. He will fight until the end unless he becomes some sort of entity in the Domain.
@@AS-fp4gb SIII's don't, being orphans, but SII's sometimes do. Of course, they're all listed as dead, so there next of kin might not get anything 😂
It's kind of hilarious to imagine the Chief walking up to navy fleetcom like "Give me my money"
Not even an arranged meeting, they’re talking about fleet expenditures for the coming years and nobody could (or wanted to) stop him from barging into the meeting.
Chief - "Yeah, one of the spartan IVs just told me that we can go on leave and get paid? I'm going to Hawaii."
Admiral - "What are you gonna do in Hawaii?"
Chief - "Sir, finish this fight."
@mikemasaki8193 "Sir, use all my accumulated leave hours"
"Chief, that's just called retirement at this point"
@@Mad_Mad_World imagine the chief sitting on the beach with his armor still on him 😂
@@ZK9931 Nah, the only bit of his armor he would be wearing is the helmet. The rest would be a tacky Hawaiian shirt in UNSC Navy colors, a pair of board shorts the color of his armor and cheap sandals on his feet. Of course there would be an alcoholic drink in a coconut with an Umbrella in one hand and the other resting near a beach themed magnum pistol.
Give the dude a planet.
give him a wepon
Give him all the weapons!
That’s what I said.
At least...
Give him his own fleet and sector system as his personal fiedom
He’s worth billions the amount of lives he’s saved. But $4 million makes sense for this universe.
😂😂😂 literally though hahaha
Even that might be missing several zeros at the end. Billions are chump change, the poorest countries in the world make billions annually, now extend that to a galactic scale of resources and wealth.
Thing is though, due to Halsey's kidnapping and flash cloning, he's legally dead, so can't get a penny.
@@zoa1-99.......he’s not legally dead. His identify is John-117, that’s his legal name. That’s what he gets paid under
@@Aden_III He is legally dead. Flash cloning caused a loophole
Everything he earned in a combat zone would also be tax free. And possible bonuses for re upping.
When has he...not been in a combat zone of some sort?
@@chrislaf89 Depends if they count things like staying on Space Stations "noncombat zones".
@@JL32506 Chief *himself* is the combat zone.
Spartans didnt enlist, they were conscripted, they dont have an enlistment contract.
@@corey552 yeah, but whose gonna tell that to the master chief?
We can only hope that when Chief's story comes to an end, he'll spend his time and money on a Beach-side property with a beer in hand
This raises several questions.
Has chief ever tasted beer?
Does he even drink?
Does he have a preferred brand?
Chief on the beach only with heart trunks and his helmet.
Zanzibar & piña colada's
@@manchannel7003 Master Cheeks canonically does not drink alcohol
@@manchannel7003the pilot got chief to be a Modelo guy
Imagine he retires after facing down alien abominations and single handedly saving humanity more times than we can count and they only hand him 4 million
I'm sure some private company would swoop in and start paying him millions per year to continue doing contracted work
4 Million in their future economy no less... accounting for inflation that's gunna get him a snicker's bar (and not even a full snickers I bet)? I bet a big mac was 5 million before the covenant war started.
"your injuries are not service related" -- UNSC High Command
@dean1625 what injuries? The surgical scars?
@@RipOffProductionsLLC It's a running US military joke . . .
If chief ever retire he can probably afford to buy a planet just from the royalties of the inevitable movies, documentaries, and self-biograghy.
That's a good point. Every human alive would view the chief documentary and buy his book. His biography would probably outsell the Bible.
They'll probably make a few games about him too.
@@randomyoutubebrowser5217 Oh boy I cant wait to play videogames about Chief's heroics during the human convenant war!
@@eight-cloudspurple5871 it might even get so popular that people will start making videos about those games
Master Chief, having saved earth and humanity as a whole countless times retires and goes and trains as a chef, eventually becoming a Master Chef.
Where's the lamb sauce
@@hoze1235 sir coming right up.
I'm sure this was the original plan for halo 5. Chief wants his backpay and ONI is having none of it. So they send locke to silence him before he cashes out.
Had me dying it dose make since though chrif wants is money because he is tired of fighting and when he loose Cortina in 4 so in 5 go's to get his money the UNSC realizes they don't want to give that dough they call up ONI to solve things makes much m9res sense then the real lore and this should be cannon
@@STGMORRISON if ONI ( by extension, UNSC) does something like that, the creator of halo better portrait the UNSC as the bad guys by having the public discover the truth in regards to the origin of the spartan program.
@alexanderconcepcion803 I just wrote it for a little humor but get your point
Never mind publishing his biography...
I like to imagine he would just get an uncapped UNSC credit card or something. Basically, a "the government will cover it" card.
that's kinda what i'm thinking, they just give him a card with a balance total of YES.
Got a cash count that matches his kill count. And he had done a lot of that
@@TheCulturedMan34 Sounds about right
@@MarkoDash LOL, a balance of YES is so funny
UNSC: Gives a dead dude a promotion
John 117: returns from the dead to collect the paycheck
UNSC: *Surprise Pikachu face
UNSC: OONNII make him go away! He wants fair pay and he siad the word marine union!. *bawls like small child*
I can't see chief spending money on anything other than his food rations. So he's probably pretty well off given how he doesn't have a house to rent or anything. If he actually paid for his service that is.
Probably a good house , veicle , personal Spartan gym and maybe a shot camp .
He spent it all on Genshin loot boxes
Probably don't pay taxes either
@@worldwanderer91 lucky bastard
@@worldwanderer91I’m pretty sure military wages are tax free
"Master Cheif, you mind telling me what you're doing on that ship?"
"SIR, Finishing this shift"
I can only imagine how uncomfortable the MC would be if he went on a "leave", let alone a vacation. I can only think that his version of a leave is just hanging out with his fellow Spartan II's.
Like the Doom Slayer not killing something or searching for someone to kill.
And the fact that it's Master Chief. THE Master Chief. Man could walk into a bar, a store, gun shop, a tailor, etc. and simply ask for something and no human alive will say no.
Chief wants to drive a Ferrari he's just gotta show up and ask. It's chief. He cam buy as much as he wants anywhere without spending a dime.
And the store will easily make up for the costs by increased sales
“I need a Lambo.”
The only questions they would ask is, do you want any custom work done on it or if they can get a picture with him while he is waiting for his stuff.
As an Financial Management budget analyst, your understanding of the military pay structure far exceeds that of most senior leadership.
In actuality, Chief probably doesn't even know how much he should be making. Can't tell you how many E-7 through E-9 and O-5 through O-10 I've run into who struggle with how much they make.
Don't forget you have to calculate years in service for that pay grade. It increases every two years. You also have to include federal taxes.
Great video as always!
Far exceeds? Bruh, this is public knowledge that can be found within seconds of googling it. I’ll never understand why people say things like this fishing for likes. This is literally nonsense.
It's a joke that the military is kinda stupid sometimes@@TheHannukahZombie
@@TheHannukahZombie when you deal with some of these service members on a daily basis you'll understand.
@@lordofshades9852 exactly! Anything that makes sense we do the opposite.
combat income is tax-exempt by IRS if you are deployed to a warzone IRS recognizes so no doubt ONI can force some low level bureaucrat to fully tax-exempt Chief from paying taxes
Wouldn't the Chief have 31 years of active duty, though? I mean, he did spend 4 years lost in space.
Probably, IRL soldiers that were lost and later found years after ww2 ended were paid for all the years they spent lost and, from their perspective, still at war
@@drenemelia2960 Oh okay. That would make sense.
Do they count cryoslewp between travel as time off
@@salazarcosplay i doubt it, all UNSC soldiers would hate to go into cryo knowing they gonna lose all their time off :D
Yeah, if you're a POW or Declared MIA and later are found you get back pay for all the days you were not paid.
"Master chief, mind telling me why your buying a Dodge Challenger at a 30% intrest rate?" "Sir, embraceing tradition"
Imagine Chief walking into the payday loan office
He has more than enough credits to buy a gazillion gold packs in halo 5
enough to get all halo infinite content for free
And you are not counting the extra pay he may get for being special ops, and being HEV and EVA qualified.
Seeing how he's a spartan and spartans are considered special forces, you'd also have to account for any additional SF pay
Now this channel is asking all the important questions
Oh you forgot that he earned the UNSCs version of the Congressional Medal of Honor which with current US standards would earn him special allowance pay of an additional 1400 a month.
TLDR: Chief has enough to retire to a Sangheilios hunting reserve with all the materiel he'd want to just body helioskrill and other wildlife while probably getting a sweet place to live close to the capital of house Vadam.
A story about Spartans that retire from combat roles and try to integrate with normal humans would be really interesting
Retired Spartans form a sports team
@@hoze1235joining local law enforcement too
In the US Navy, you dont get BAH without dependents unless you are E-4 with over 4 years of active service
Yea but since master Chief is basically a SOF element and a SNCO I’d assume he gets something similar to BAH and the extra “Special Pay” our SOCOM pays their SOF members, at least considering that’s how the army pay works idk if sailors get BAH after achieving E6 and if the SEALs get that special pay
Tell me you don't know what you're talking about without telling me you don't know what you're talking about
Not entirely true all service members in every branch gets BAH and BAS it shows up in your LES but it automatically gets taken out you never actually see it. Because living in the barracks and eating at the chow hall isn’t free. Now you can apply to leave the bricks and get housing at the rank of E-4(rarely does that happen unless the bricks are full) mainly at E-5 do they allow this more. And in doing so you get all your BAH and BAS. So long as you choose to not live in on base housing as you will lose all BAH even if you have a house that is lower in cost compared to what you get in BAH i.e. if your house on base is let’s say $1500 a month and you get $2000 for BAH you lose that extra $500.
You could also make the argument that he never had a residence off a military installation and only ate at base mess/ships galley facilities so wouldn't get bah or bas
@@jimmorrison2783 definitely. There is also his COL(cost of living) that needs to be taken into consideration especially during his time on Reach as that was his main stay on an actual planet for a long period of time that didn’t rate hazard pay before it was glassed. There is also his uniform allowance that he should get at the end of every year which is about $250-$300. And given that the Spartan program is also more public Chief should be entitled to reenlistment bonuses and if we use the modern day bonuses of select special warfare groups that bonus can range from $80,000-$100,000.
The most difficult war Chief will participate in, by FAR, is with the finance office trying to get all of that backpay he is owed
I’m actually very curious whether or not older generation Spartans (IIs and IIIs) are considered citizens within the UEG. As 00 pointed out, all of them are all but legally property of ONI. Like, do Spartans have any legal rights outside of the military? I’m still skeptical about whether or not Spartans actually are paid, and whether or not they can actually retire. I’m aware of Maria and Randall, but those two were exceptions, not the rule. And yes, I know they don’t know any life outside the military, and are unlikely to choose to retire, but if they did choose too, how many Spartans would ONI really allow to leave, given what they all know?
Yes they are. One of the books has a character calculating a SPARTANs age based on their payroll and gets tipped off to them being too young to officially receive that kind of pay.
I mean there has to be a point where a spartan is too old to serve right? Unless forerunner tech says otherwise
@@agentnukaz1715 I read in the Spartan Field Manual that the average Spartan is expected to be combat capable for upwards of a century. Not sure if that’s an accurate estimate, though.
They'd Article 72 them immediately.
Personally, I expect that their pay exists, on paper. A military is too big a beast to function without paperwork, and paperwork can be censored, sure, but it's not going to be totally missing. Officially they make XYZ amount, maybe there is an even an account open somewhere with money theoretically sitting there in their name, but more realistically, they'll never spend it, and the assets are most likely just recycled into the Spartan program or if you want to be more grim about it, perhaps even embezzled by some folks in power. I mean, maybe this amount of money is chump change to ONI. But in a universe where essentially the CIA and the Military are fighting for funding, I have trouble believing they'd let perfectly good money go to waste, and I do think they'd see it as a waste.
Enough money to open an Arby's.
Alright you can shoot me now.
Made me smile
"chief n arby's"
@@axolotl09 we have the meats
I really want to see Chief hang out with Thel, after all the bs those two went through, they deserve it
Cute
bros gotta have some sort of bonus for saving humanity and the entire galaxy as a whole.... multiple times
A lot of Medals of Honor
Btw youd only get BAH and BAS if youre living off base. Since he was presumably being housed and fed by the UNSC then he wouldn't be receiving those pays.
You still get a reduced BAS even when living in the dorms since it's also meant to cover things like toilet paper and toothpaste.
Also, even for someone living in base housing instead of the dorms, their meals at the chow hall wouldn't automatically be free.
20 years of loving halo, I NEVER asked this question, and I’m very glad you’re answering it 😂😂😂
Chief walks into superior's office: "You wanted to see me sir?"
Superior: "Yes, Chief I wanted to tell you that accounting was doing an audit and realized that we haven't been paying you."
Chief: " I was supposed to get paid?!"
They should make a “Halo Chiefs retirement” where you play as masterchief doing everyday jobs
Video idea: What is 117's Favorite Mjolnir Generation.
He probably wore most of them right? I bet he has a favorite
This information has to be somewhere
We can infer that: supposing he participated in the design and testing, he prefers the most recent because it reflects more his experience.
@@wordwanderer1 given it is canon that Spartans gave feedback that influenced armor development, Chief had to have provided some feedback like his fellow Spartans
@@wordwanderer1 but didn't some generations remove the force multiplying for a force base increase instead? The MkII for example had that crystal layer that exponentially increased the power of the user depending on their baseline strength ,but the MkIV removed this and used a base level increase in power instead.
I am betting on gen 3 as it is the culmination of mjolnir so far.
The only thing it lacks is the level of AI integration that Gen 2 offered, but Chief never experienced this anyway since Cortana is gone by the time Chief could conceivable switch to Gen 2
I feel terrible for the Master Chief. I was an E1 going into boot camp, and I left an E3. EIGHT YEARS AS RICKY RECRUIT? YIKES! You'd think he'd get tenured if he was an E1 for so long without getting a promotion.
Imagine Chief's retirement plan or 401k. Dude would be set for augmented life in retirement... if he would retire.
I believe Chief will spend his life in the military, defending humanity, until there's nothing left to defend humanity from. Only then would he retire, possibly with Arbiter as they spend their days in peace.
Imagine the two in retirement playing golf together. That I'd like to see. I'm sure it'd be both fun and amusing to see Chief and Arbiter playing golf together after retiring from the military.
The Chief has said (thought really) that after he is done with Combat Duty he wants to go into the Diplomatic Corps.
If he retires he would have a pension from the military. Even if he didn't spend anything, he would still be set with it.
even though spartans can fight for a lot longer than normal humans, hes gotta get too old at one point, right? but when he gets too old to fight hes probably gonna take up some non combat job in the military
@@ParagonFuryGod could you imagine negotiating with the UNSC and the Chief just walks in. His mere presence would probably be enough for one to acede to anything the UNSC wants.
I can help out with this a bit in terms of his pay during his promotions. When he was promoted it was with a field grade promotion and field grade promotions are treated ad time in grade and service waivers. His base pay in the system would reflect his original base pay until his fieldnpromotion was made official and his pay recieve while under a field promotion would be instated as a back pay and issued with his next paycheck.
One thing to note when calculating his total income. BAH is a housing allowance given to service members who live off of military installation or in privatized housing. I don't know if it's ever stated for sure, but I'd assume the Master Chief lives in quarters provided to him by the UNSC thus making him ineligible for BAH.
Same with BAS. He eats whatever the Navy feeds him, he’s never been in a situation where he had to provide for himself. Both of those should be removed from the calculations.
Thats technically not including inflation and interest over the decades
and civil-military reforms.
US Army Vet here.
Hazard pay is different from
COMBAT pay (and combat pay is TAX FREE) so, the actual pay amount would be higher.
One thing you may have overlooked when it comes to Master Chief Petty Officer of The Navy or MCPON for short…. In modern US Naval command, there can only be 1 MCPON serving at one time, and is not a field position like the standard MCPO, it is a staff position that works directly the Chief Of Naval Operations and inturn the Chief Of Staff and Secretary Of The Navy… So for The Chief to keep officially keep the rank of MCPON he would have to leave combat/field operations and take a desk job…. And we all know his place is in the blood and the mud!
Hey, tomorrow is March 3rd, the same date as in the monument at the end of Halo 3.
As a navy guy my self, I have to add that you dont get BAH until you are either, E5 or E4 with over 4 years of service, additionally even if you are an E5 or E4 "over 4" you dont get BAH unless you are living off base, or in base housing, not while in the barracks. He likely doesn't have nearly that much, and as far as the government goes, they would likely charge him for the permanent augmentations to his body. Hell, all the injuries he sustained would likely be "unrelated to service injuries" as far as the UEG Veterans affairs thinks.
US Navy guy here. Typically, BAH is only afforded to those E-5 and above (unless married and or with other dependents. Such as childeren.) to live out in town off-base. E-1 to E-4 typically live onboard ships or in barracks ashore. BAS is usually only given to those with BAH or to those who do not have access to a centralized/consolidated dining facility such as a ships galley or base mess hall. Since the UNSC appears to be providing both lodging and all his meal requirements. He probably isnt entitled to BAH and BAS.
Another thing he probably didn't know either is leave, cause remember we have to sell our left over leave over 90 days at the end of the fiscal year. If you count his time as a "recruit" because you still are paid as an E-1 even as a recruit, first of all he would have more pay from just his paychecks. But he also has 1290 days of leave that would have been sold over time.
@@Leprechaunlockdon't you have to opt-in to sell leave? If you just end up not using it it just disappears doesn't it?
@shannonjones8877 Fuck I wouldn't doubt it man. New DoD is fucky now, you used to be able to be allowed 90 days as a max and I found out recently that it changed to 60. Sound like them.
@shannonjones8877 plus I thought they just sold it back to you? Did that change too? I dunno man I've been out for like almost 7 years and i never really had more than 45 days of leave saved up.
@@Leprechaunlock tbh i don't fully remember how it worked either. I remember being constantly reminded that i had use or lose and being encouraged not to forget about using it, but i don't ever remember that if i didn't use it it automatically got sold back. Could just be that they "conveniently forgot" to mention that though, i honestly can't be certain. Only time i for sure hearing any mention about selling back unused leave was when i was separating.
To add to it since he's very famous, so every talk show, news anchor, and event planner would pay good money just to interview him or have him endorse their products
Additionally he could do what SEALs do and write a book
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This video cracks me up. Nice work man. Also, remember money earned while forward deployed is tax exempt, so yea the old man is ballin'.
He would probably be demoted in real life because MCPN rank is for only an administration role for the Navy Admiral which would be the highest Administrative rank/billet for a naval officer. But who knows, maybe theres more than one MCPN having such a large navy to manage
Reminds me of th Captain America pay debate. How much you pay a super soldier killing machine that will far out live anyone. Do you own it , can you pay it , should you after all its a secret. So many parallels can be drawn here. Awesome video as always
i always love seeing the sheer difference between master chief and more modern spartan. man was twice their size
An excellent shot at trying to get an idea of Chief's backpay, definitely a nigh impossible thing to suss out given the sheer amount of unknowns! There'd also be re-enlistment bonuses (NCOs will reup every few years if they keep deciding to stay in), Imminent Danger Pay (which can be collected concurrently with Hazard Pay), travel pay (for PCSing between duty stations), Jump Pay (keeping your airborne qual gives you a little bit), sea duty pay (space deployment pay in Chief's case), sniper school pay, dive training pay, language cert pay, and a bunch of other little things that can add up.
So Chief is likely a good deal more loaded than even the damn good attempt that came up with a bit over $4 million.
There is also the uniform allowance, the Special Warfare Bonus, the bonus for being the Leading NCO of Spartan Command and reenlistment bonuses, and the UNSC equivalent of the Medal of Honor Pension.
Also note : Because this is the navy, after being promoted, the accompanying bumps in pay can be delayed by several months, especially for a field promotion.
This also does not take in to account garnished wages for things like : The PT gear he wore in Spartan Boot Camp, toiletries, payments for the Life Insurance Policy and GI Bill, non-mjolnir uniforms, etc.
But I acknowledge that's all a bit much for a ballpark estimate like we're going for in this video.
Here's my speculative question though : Who would the Spartans have listed the recipients for their Life Insurance Policy?
That's easy, each other unless you can't to fellow inlisted for w/e reason
SGLI beneficiary : Catherine Elizabeth Halsey, MD PhD
He would definitely have a massive book deal at the end of all of it, and the speakers fee he could command to speak at special events would be out of this world. Imagine a Master Chief TedTalk, it would be the most well attended event of the year.
Great video bro. I’ve never even thought of the possibility of the Chief getting paid. Imagine how much he could get from a trail against ONI for child abduction.
Dude was kidnapped and forced into becoming a super soldier killing machine with no life of his own. Don't think they are paying him.
Chief probably wouldn't get BAS or BAH because he lives on base and has food provided to him. However, he would receive additional pay like special duty pay, jump pay, demo pay, hazard pay, and tax free for his deployments in combat zones.
Also with the way the the navy works he would have to wait 6 months before he starts getting payed for each rank he makes, because those 6 months are considered a probationary period.
Theres actually a few things you've missed in the video, such as the TSP, which is basically a military savings plan, and that theres more than just hazard pay that youd get for the work he does such as hardship, activecombat zone,and even special forces pay since spartans are pretty much the navy seals of their time. Theres probably a couple otherthings that i cant think of now, but otherwise a damn good video man, keep it up!
Adjusted and weighted properly for "Service" 4 million would be A jokingly low payout.
Also remember, Spartans were considered a form of special forces and probably tier 1 which would be black ops level, operators in that category get higher pay just by that designation regardless of rank, special ops tend to not keep.up with the traditional rank structure bit does have a command
Forgot to factor inflation... 500 years in the future that's like 100+ million. Great video, thanks!
I think what's more important is no one would ever willingly tell him no. He shows up to an open house, everyone politely nods and leaves. He shows up wanting a Lamborghini, you say, "Right this way Chief".
Congress votes on a general cost of living adjustment every year (tends to average around 2-3% a year). So potentially much more if you factor the year over year increases to base pay.
Plus another layer is that depending on where you are deployed, your pay for that month is tax free.
it's a wash with inflation anyway. So you could add the pay increase, but the effective buying power is still the same.
One minor thing, the MC of the navy isn't a rank John would hold indefinitely. It's an administrative role for the highest enlisted Sailor and they cycle out every few years. John getting that promotion would have been symbolic and nothing more.
one thing that was not really taken into account here would be his service pension which would probably be a staggering amount and more than enough to live off of given his time in service
Lol so you're telling me this whole time since Halo 4, I've been playing as the MCPON of the UNSC? That's dope
For the first 8 years, wouldn’t he not get the food and housing pay since he was being housed and fed by the unsc?
Probably for all of his career. I doubt he lived on private housing or cooked for himself. Imagine seeing John 117 shopping at a commisary and cooking in a kitchen.
@@ThexKiidxSausageman only knows how to cook covenants
@@ThexKiidxSausage lmao that would be hilarious.
Why aren't you on the battlefield spartan? Finishing the shopping sir.
The MCPON is the highest ranked enlisted dude in the entire Navy there is only one of them. He is the Enlisted dude who works with the Chief of Naval Operations (the highest sitting Naval Officer).
There are real cases of servicemembers saving up to six figures in a few years. With lodging,three squares a day, access to recreation facilities and gyms at no cost, free workshops from hobbies to car repair depending on the base. Aside of the whole war thing, that's a sweet situation to be in.
You forgot that earning mitary medals and awards usually comes with a cash and pension bonus. And Chief has earned every medal the UNSC offers at least once, except the purple heart according to a book that I can't remember
He got the purple heart, first medal he's ever got actually. The ones he did not get were for being a POW and another one i cant remember.
@@snperkiller1054 he only lacks the pow medal
@@snperkiller1054 he should though considering innies captured blue team on one of their first ops in the books
@@mythicknz8203 I would assume you gotta be captured for more then a few minutes, that and the UNSC would have to recognise innies as a legit entity that can have POWs.
They were captured for hours and Kurt rescued them, they were legitamitely captured@@snperkiller1054
This does neglect to mention any possible bounties that Insurrectionists or high ranking Covenant officials might have had, however unlikely Chief would be to collect on those.
Finally asking the real questions
Indeed
Trick question. The YN3 in charge of filing the paperwork for MC's promotion was hung over that day, and MC never checked his LES. He's been earning E1 pay the whole time.
I feel like the title would work better as: how much money is the chief entitled to, since he never during service opened a bank account(there doesn't seem to be any lore suggesting that he has a bank account opened up with his parents/guardians(can't remember if it was either)) thus entitlement would work more since to my knowledge he formally never got any payment
One thing i'm curious is how much of that is what we dutch call netto(that means post taxes, if it's not taxes pay then it would be bruto) also can the medical stuff he went through be also removed from the payment? And are there other costs wich could reduce the total?
@@stijnVDA1994 all medical is free on active duty. Also, in an active war zone, all pay is tax free
One could just assume that when he was recruited, a bank account was opened for him. This is a basic requirement of military. You cannot join without direct deposit.
@@jc5604 even for the navy?
ONI likely opened one for them because an ODST Colonel learned how old Spartans really were by checking the date when they first started getting paid.
Could buy a very nice sized plot of land on one of the colonies to retire on. Big enough to not have to deal with people if he didn't feel like it, imagine that Chief just retiring to a nice little cabin in the woods.
The problem is our society thinks too much about money . Chief doesn't think like that . If he would retire the UNSC should take care of everything needed for him to live the rest of his life with no problems. Money can't function the same way in the Halo universe since they're a interstelar civilization. I know is hard for us to think different but it would .. what do I know maybe I'm wrong . Be well.
To survive as an interstellar civilisation humanity would definitely have to evolve beyond current Capitalism. There's no way you can support a society spread across multiple solar systems with the ultimate goal being accumulate wealth. The abundance of space immediately kills market prices since there's so much raw material and you have so much automation.
@@revanamell1791 except that we have proof of capitalism in the games
@@thatoneguy9666 I didn't say "There is no Capitalism in Halo". I said what I said, dingus.
@@revanamell1791 oh yeah that clears it up a lot, thanks
After having met some MCPONs in my day, I would have killed to have The Master Chief being the face of the entire enlisted arm of the Navy.
Master Chief “wait we get paid?”
If chief was actively deployed or housed in barracks he wouldn't rate bah or bas. He would get sea pay and hazard pay along with tax exemption.
Dont Spartans also have the equivalent of a PhD or a Masters as a result of their education?
Given that the UNSC is based on the United States... lets see... that means Chief is about... 10,000,000 dollars in debt 😂.
Hey, I'm an active duty Marine, upon receiving his field promotion to Master Chief he would start making base pay for said rank. BAH and BAS rates don't change dependent on rank, they change based off of location. I hope this helps and adds a little more to your calculations.
Do you think in alternate universe there is a human Cortana and is married to John 117?
Of course! Why wouldn’t there be?
@@Brucie_Boy they deserve there happiness together I’ve always shipped them
I mean, Cortana is based off of Dr Halsey right?
just clone halsey
Oh brother
Military here.
BAS is provided for all members but is deducted immediately if you eat in the mess hall.
BAH is provided typically after becoming an SNCO, depending on duty station, to allow said SNCO to live off post. It is, however, provided immediately if you are married and wish to live out of the barracks, regardless of rank.
Since Chief lived, presumably, in military housing such as barracks or a ship’s troop quarters his entire career, he would not be entitled to BAH.
Considering he presumably ate in the mess hall his entire career, which is likely the case, he would have BAS deducted immediately and therefore is not entitled to it.
And now I’m wondering how much Cap is owed.
No one has ever thought of something like this that I can remember so this was interesting to see xD thanks for the video!
No wonder why Makee wants him so bad. Hes rich as heck!
Bro 😂
My head canon has always been that Spartans (sparan 2s anyway) aren’t paid, because the entire life is the military, and on paper, they aren’t even treated as humans.
i mean, that's a lotta bank, but considering it's basically putting a price on saving the galaxy and human race multiple times, it almost seems like nothing 😂
In your opinion, what do you think in terms of lore and future campaigns can we expect? Possible DLC's?
Nothing is further being developed for Halo Infinite campaign. We will have to wait for the next game.
@@QueenOfLatexjust ew at your profile
5:34 so master chief used to be a semen recruit? Nice