She is russian (afaik), so she all her life worked in their atomic industry, and now retired; I do not know if she is still alive, but if yes, she is 82 now.
It's amazing how many methods they tried to deal with the contamination. It's hard to comprehend that the ChNPP disaster legit absorbed the combined brain power of the USSR, and thousands of different attempts and ideas to get the job done, and so many are simply not remembered, lost in translation or just never publicised in the first place.
Thank you! There is a lot interesting and unknown about Chernobyl disaster and subsequent events, but vast majority of that data is in high-specialized books; sometimes it is hard to read them due to very narrow specialization and even harder to get many as we speak about 100-500 copies existing. But... we have a large library :)
It's brilliant that you're finding all this information and and letting the world see it. There were truly some brave and amazing people dealing with the aftermath of the explosion.
To be totally correct, the footage you see is a documentary, but an internal one. It was provided by Michael Bukov, a robotics engineer who worked in Pripyat at Jupiter factory in 1988-1996, he accidentally found a VHS cassette!
@@jwenting oh okay. But the AK stuff (orange in that case) was bakelite😅 i just googled it because i didnt trust my brain🤣. I guess they added some kind of dye to color it or used a slightly altered recipe
I've never heard of any of these amazing people. Thank you so much for sharing their stories, they deserve to be remembered. Stay safe and awesome. And give the cat some scritchins for me.
Chornobyl is all about people and stories. Too bad, it is so many of them that it is hard to keep that all in mind. A few times it already happened that after a video is released, in a few weeks we realize we forgot some Perfect Thing to add.
Thank you for telling this story. The work to develop and deploy this system is definitely worth celebrating! Using a piece of adhesive tape to remove lint, dust, or pet hair is probably familiar to many of us, but to do so on the scale of a rooftop with toxic dust and debris is certainly not a method I could have conceived.
Thanks for creating this content - very interesting. Since you mentioned her, I found that Elena has published a book about the events and she also mentions the lead "bathyscape" that was lowered by crane with a single occupant to map the radioactive hotspots on the roof.
i even remember seeing that device standing forgotten near the turbine hall. It was literally for years there, we have somewhere even pictures. Later it was buried at Buryakivka, as there was no way to clean it.
I had no idea this type of technology was used after the Chernobyl accident. Good initiative to scale a sticky fly paper type solution up to something meters long, and it looks like it worked to remove the contaminated asphalt.
Another great and interesting Chernobyl secrets people don't know anything about in the west... I've a special interest on the Chernobyl catastrophe as it was on my birthday... Still remember watching it on the news back in the day and also feeling some relief by living on the other side of Europe and very far away from the disaster... Keep up your great work...!
You’re doing awesome work sharing this with the world! The world has too often thought Soviet technology was behind the US and Europe because of the lagging digital technology but you keep showing off advanced materials and analog electronics technology. Amazing stuff.
To be totally accurate, in the scope of Chernobyl tech, there was A LOT Western tech supplied. For example, in those reports we are translating on Patreon, it is described that practically all spectrometry systems had Nokia or Canberra impulse analyzers. Another thing that the disaster mobilized incredible financial and research resources, so what you see is very special case, although in a very large scale.
It is amazing to hear the stories and see documentation from someone who speaks the language! So many things I have never heard from any english source. Excellent job you are doing here!
Can't imagine how scary it would of been to be a liquidator being exposed to crazy amounts of radiation then knowing you are going to die a horrendous death from radiation poisoning those guys are heroes and should never be forgotten for sacrificing their lives
I will tell you one thing from the personal experience: the scariest detail you very quickly get used to presence of radiation and eventually ignore it. It is a big question whether they really saw the true scale of the risk, because mind in situations like this makes very tricky things. It is also a fact that although there later were severe health issues, not so many actually dіеd in short time.
Brilliant idea, the glue sets the radioactive particles firmly. It's a giant adhesive tape for radioactive particles. Too bad there was "political pressure"... Thanks for the discovery. And pictures. And everything.
A difficult situation when every second counts and the immense pressure to solve the radiation contamination problem. Pretty clever solution considering what they had to work with. Sure it may not be as fast as sending thousands of humans up with a shovel, but how many could have been spared by this method.
I hadn't heard of this before. I'm sure there are many other interesting things that were not talked about in Western countries. It's great that things are being told now and maybe we can learn something new from them.
Do you have any knowledge of the actual ingredients of the glue for either future clean-ups or just curios scholars? I've been interested in the disaster for decades and didn't know about this stuff (though its quite reasonable in retrospect)
I am afraid precisely that mixture know only two people: Samoilenko and Kozlova. To ask Samoilenko to talk about Chernobyl is impossible. He refuses to touch this subject. Kozlova lives in Russіа and is a Rosаtom veteran; I do not know if it is actually possible to contact her. But the question is indeed interesting. We'll check what are the options.
The failure of the robots serves as a commentary on the Space Race, and limits on Stasi's ability to steal Western chip designs. High background ionising radiation levels are also a common issue in space tech, and a major part of the solution is silicon-on-sapphire chip technology. (Two other major parts are fault-tolerant software design and redundant hardware design.) Ironically, Soviet crystallomancers seem to have had an edge in synthetic sapphire tech in the '70s, but I guess they either never realised the benefits of growing high-purity silicone upon a layer of sapphire, or maybe they couldn't explain the benefits to the Central Planning Committee. Maybe Stasi's spy activities required the blueprints to be easily photographable and the crystal-growing theory didn't fit the mould. In any case, well, overly radiation-sensitive robots was the outcome.
you must build surfaces who can absorb this contaminants when you build the power plant or make holes who can be filled with materials in case of an accident. also the explosion may save us before a bigger nuke blow up there
no-no-no. Directly opposite. You need surfaces which prevent any sorption, otherwise you are literally doom the facility. Don't forget, one of the reasons why roofs had to be cleaned is because sources were emitting all around, including industrial premises _below_ the roof, making effectively impossible to make internal decontamination before roofs are clean.
Конкретно про промокашки розказує сама Олена в своїй книзі - Козлова Е.А., Воспоминания о Чернобыле, М., «ИздАТ», 2001 р. Щодо доповідей Самойленко та ін., тут складніше. Це багатотомна збірка доповідей 1 Загальносоюзної конференції по ЛНА, що пройшла в м. Чорнобиль у 1987, під редакцією Є. Ігнатенко. Проблем в тому, що це видання має аж 100 екземплярів і воно було суто внутрішнє для Зони відчуження та пов'язаних НДІ, тож за межами Зони його знайти наврядче можливо. Може є в Вернадці. Більша частина їх не зберіглася, тому що вже в 90-х це було застаріле видання видане під пильним оком КДБ, тому його часто використовували як "підставки під каву". Може відскануємо якщо придумаємо як розшити правильно ці книги. Деякі речі, викладені у збірці суттєво уточнювалися пізніше, тож додаткову інформацію можна знайти в збірках "Чернобыль-94", "Чернобыль-96" та ін. а також у т.н. "жовтому збірнику" - альманасі "Проблеми Чорнобильської зони".
I don't get why the debris needed to moved. Couldn't they have covered it up along with everything else? Any loose debris could be shoveled into the exploded building, no? What would happen if they waited a few days for short half-life elements to decay?
They stated early in the video that the roof had a bitumen tar like coating, so the hot debris melted into the tar making it hard to shovel. You have to remove the debris because the stuff that isn't stuck can break down into smaller pieces and blow away or get washed off with rain. They did try a remote controlled bulldozer to push the debris in the exploded reactor but it was at the very early stages of remote controlled any thing at that time. Also remember that some of the halflives of the debris is incredibly long, like thousands of years.
I believe this metaphor will work: imagine you are trying to place wallpapers in your apartment when a few apartments around are under a fire, with increasing heat making being inside your place impossible. Here it was the same, just the fire was invisible. What was on the roofs, emitted not only _up_ but also _down_ making impossible to stay inside important power plant premises, or start ventilation system, or make any construction operations which required presence of people on the roof. It was also a source of the deadly dust. The power plant is _huge_. I mean, _really huge_, and only a part was affected. To save and keep controllable all other parts, this big job had to be done. It was not possible to cover things just so, because structural elements of the building have weight limits (though ideas to concrete the roofs over emerged at early stage but was abandoned quickly because of said factor and radiation going through the roof down). Check the first episode of the series where we explain evolution of the Zone, you can see there a diagram of isotopes ejected from the reactor. Not only many were long-living, they were very highly active. Those that lived short, actually turn to another radioactive elements. Multiply this to aerosol-form nuclides, and you get the most hellish cocktail you need to deal with.
@@blades7558 yes. Just to clarify, there were very successful robots, such as STR-1, but that was more an exception. See th-cam.com/video/DqIF9ZXiFiE/w-d-xo.html
Hello friend, could you tell me the name of the chemical compound that the helicopters used to spray the Chernobyl area? I heard the name "burbat" or "durbat" It was a chemical compound that washed away radioactive particles and prevented them from floating in the air again.
"Burda" in verbal language, "Barda" mostly in documentation. In both cases stress on the ending. This word, as far as I remember, is generally used in Russian in a meaning "weird/strange mixture" (with ironical intonation). We somewhere have a detailed description of this compound, though it looks like the name was colloquial for many compounds.
@@ChernobylFamily Okey, i found in book Midnight in Chernobyl - "Specialists from NIKIMOT, which is under the Ministry of Medium Machine Construction, combed factories across the country looking for anything that could bind dust..Throughout the summer, everything was transported to the zone by rail, including PVA glue and burba - a paste made from beets and sawmill waste - and then sprayed onto the area from helicopters."
I am not sure if you watched the video completely - there is a short fragment where spraying is pictured. But see, the problem was wider than dust! Those were large high-active fragments which emitted in all directions, including below them, through the ceiling of underneath rooms, so that made impossible or very hard to stay in many places and make there works. Think about it as extinguishing a fire, you need to remove the source of it.
My answer will be rather long, because it is a complex question, which in fact was a subject of very intense discussions back in the day. Before all, the "whole thing" of the power plant is nearly a kilometer long and although it got contaminated inside (because ventilation systems continued to operate for a few hours after initial nuclide ejection), at some point it became clear that it is very much possible to separate the affected part with Unit IV and gradually return remaining part into operation after a thorough cleanup - which happened. However, apart from the section which belonged to Unit IV, the explosion contaminated the rooftops of turbine hall, Unit III (3), and Unit "V" ("V" specifically here is a letter, not a latin number, and is a name of a building on which the iconic VT-2 chimney stood and which had _shared_ systems for Units III and IV). Therefore, in the scope of said two sections it was crucial to clean that up, as otherwise intact unit would be unusable. Plus there was a significant radioactive emission _through_ the roofs to rooms below. So exactly what you say was one of the initial ideas for the very first isolation facility (what later was named as Object Shelter officially, or known as Sarcophagus in slang). At that stage there was no understanding what is the situation in many of hundreds rooms of the Unit IV, so this idea was rejected as it would create a significant overweight to sandy soils on which the NPP stands and it would mean a loss of control over the fuel-containing masses. A second return to this idea was during the international competition for the best project of the Shelter-2 in 1992 (what after many many iterations ended in creating of the New Safe Confinement, or the Arch). One of the projects, which was called PLUTON ("Pluto") meant creating a soil, cat litter and concrete pyramid-like hill. Upon mathematical modeling, it became clear that this will make more problems than positive effects as it will make a monitoring of the facility impossible. I hope this helps. If you have more questions, feel free to ask. P.S. Cat litter (bentonite) is not a joke; it is a perfect inert material for isolation works in nuclear industry and radioactive waste processing.
They say they should’ve had a containment building But I think that would’ve been pointless explosion that powerful I don’t think it would’ve held it in and I always wondered if it happened in the United States do you think they would’ve done the same Great job on your video only knew a little bit about the helicopters flying it over and using it to clean the roof that’s all I knew amazing how much stuff they had to do it will never find out Keep up the great work
A proper containment building might have held, though the blowout panels certainly would have blown out. This wasn't hydrogen filling the whole building and detonating like Fukushima. The "bucket" survived, and the lid was thrown to about the level of the roof. Believe it or not, it could have been much worse.
I am sorry mate, I am not a native speaker and to be honest I have quite heavy breathing problems (this is a result of working in moldy areas in the Zone), so English phonetics is a big pain.
@@ChernobylFamily ohh yeah no worry, the accent does very much add to the vibe of the video! if that means it is hard for me to understand, well i should just practice in hearing better! xD
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That blotter design is absolutely brilliant! Helen deserves some kind of award.
She got it eventually, but for other things.
@@ChernobylFamily Details about her career?
She is russian (afaik), so she all her life worked in their atomic industry, and now retired; I do not know if she is still alive, but if yes, she is 82 now.
It's amazing how many methods they tried to deal with the contamination. It's hard to comprehend that the ChNPP disaster legit absorbed the combined brain power of the USSR, and thousands of different attempts and ideas to get the job done, and so many are simply not remembered, lost in translation or just never publicised in the first place.
There are a lot of good stories; just many of them are in literature, which often is emotionally hard to read.
Deffo. Gorbachev explained that it was that that bankrupted the USSR not Reagan - makes sense
@@dtrain1634No comrade
Accident should never have happened typical defective commie methods engineering
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Didn't know about this at all.
Youre the first to tell about it.
Thanks so much !
Indeed, I've never seen these in other Chernobyl-related documentaries before!
Thank you! There is a lot interesting and unknown about Chernobyl disaster and subsequent events, but vast majority of that data is in high-specialized books; sometimes it is hard to read them due to very narrow specialization and even harder to get many as we speak about 100-500 copies existing. But... we have a large library :)
It's brilliant that you're finding all this information and and letting the world see it.
There were truly some brave and amazing people dealing with the aftermath of the explosion.
Thank you! More interesting things to come!
A LOT of bravery existed at Chornobyl. Thank you for this post.
Thank you! More interesting things to come!
😮😮I had never heard of this, of this system for removing debris; no documentary/channel has EVER mentioned it: congratulations👏👏👏👏
To be totally correct, the footage you see is a documentary, but an internal one. It was provided by Michael Bukov, a robotics engineer who worked in Pripyat at Jupiter factory in 1988-1996, he accidentally found a VHS cassette!
@@ChernobylFamily 😊😊👏👏👏👏💯💯🥇🔝🔝🎊
2:59 Phenol-formaldehyde don't sound very safe but I think in the case of Chernobyl everything is better than high levels of radiation.
Well, true.
Basically Bakelite resin.
@@gregorymalchuk272 isnt bakelite the stuff they used in AK (-47) production for the "wood"-looking things like handguard etc?
@@swealer bakelite is a very early form of plastic, developed way before WW2.
It's typically black when solid.
@@jwenting oh okay. But the AK stuff (orange in that case) was bakelite😅 i just googled it because i didnt trust my brain🤣. I guess they added some kind of dye to color it or used a slightly altered recipe
Reminds me of the ‘bourda molasses’ binder they sprayed from Mi-26 Helicopters to bind the radioactive nuclides on roads, trees, and buildings.
Right. However, that is a very different mixture. We actually found the recipe of it, maybe we'll try to recreate it.
@@ChernobylFamilythat would be very intresting, please share the recipe if you make a video about it 👍
@@ChernobylFamilyWhat is the recipe? Is it polymer based or asphalt based?
I've never heard of any of these amazing people. Thank you so much for sharing their stories, they deserve to be remembered. Stay safe and awesome. And give the cat some scritchins for me.
Chornobyl is all about people and stories. Too bad, it is so many of them that it is hard to keep that all in mind. A few times it already happened that after a video is released, in a few weeks we realize we forgot some Perfect Thing to add.
Thank you for telling this story. The work to develop and deploy this system is definitely worth celebrating! Using a piece of adhesive tape to remove lint, dust, or pet hair is probably familiar to many of us, but to do so on the scale of a rooftop with toxic dust and debris is certainly not a method I could have conceived.
And now imagine you place all that using just a CCTV.
Thanks for creating this content - very interesting. Since you mentioned her, I found that Elena has published a book about the events and she also mentions the lead "bathyscape" that was lowered by crane with a single occupant to map the radioactive hotspots on the roof.
i even remember seeing that device standing forgotten near the turbine hall. It was literally for years there, we have somewhere even pictures. Later it was buried at Buryakivka, as there was no way to clean it.
I had no idea this type of technology was used after the Chernobyl accident. Good initiative to scale a sticky fly paper type solution up to something meters long, and it looks like it worked to remove the contaminated asphalt.
It did, it was not universal though and could not be the only solution, but it made it big contribution.
This looks like something that could have a much wider set of applications.
This is a good point
Another great and interesting Chernobyl secrets people don't know anything about in the west...
I've a special interest on the Chernobyl catastrophe as it was on my birthday... Still remember watching it on the news back in the day and also feeling some relief by living on the other side of Europe and very far away from the disaster...
Keep up your great work...!
Thank you!
You’re doing awesome work sharing this with the world! The world has too often thought Soviet technology was behind the US and Europe because of the lagging digital technology but you keep showing off advanced materials and analog electronics technology. Amazing stuff.
To be totally accurate, in the scope of Chernobyl tech, there was A LOT Western tech supplied. For example, in those reports we are translating on Patreon, it is described that practically all spectrometry systems had Nokia or Canberra impulse analyzers. Another thing that the disaster mobilized incredible financial and research resources, so what you see is very special case, although in a very large scale.
It is amazing to hear the stories and see documentation from someone who speaks the language! So many things I have never heard from any english source. Excellent job you are doing here!
Thank you! This weekend a new episode will come, and it is going to be even more interesting!
Can't imagine how scary it would of been to be a liquidator being exposed to crazy amounts of radiation then knowing you are going to die a horrendous death from radiation poisoning those guys are heroes and should never be forgotten for sacrificing their lives
I will tell you one thing from the personal experience: the scariest detail you very quickly get used to presence of radiation and eventually ignore it. It is a big question whether they really saw the true scale of the risk, because mind in situations like this makes very tricky things. It is also a fact that although there later were severe health issues, not so many actually dіеd in short time.
Brilliant idea, the glue sets the radioactive particles firmly. It's a giant adhesive tape for radioactive particles. Too bad there was "political pressure"...
Thanks for the discovery. And pictures. And everything.
Thank you! Well, it was not a universal solution, but still a good one.
Chernobyl was one of my earliest memories. Glad you're covering it so well.
Thank you! More to come!
I heard about this first time on this channel, and I have been following Chernobyl disaster for many many years. Amazing work!
Thank you! More interesting thing to come!
Necessity is the mother of invention, and the Chernobyl Disaster spurned a whole lot of necessity! Thanks for sharing this...
Thank you, you are completely right. Any catastrophe always initiates innovations.
When us troops brought the stuff to vietnam it saved lives.
But this is a totally different level...
Agent orange criminal act not gone 2024.
A difficult situation when every second counts and the immense pressure to solve the radiation contamination problem. Pretty clever solution considering what they had to work with. Sure it may not be as fast as sending thousands of humans up with a shovel, but how many could have been spared by this method.
Well said
The dudes running out of thr building look like Mortal Kombat ninjas.
And now imagine that that suit was roughly 40 kg / 80lb heavy.
I hadn't heard of this before. I'm sure there are many other interesting things that were not talked about in Western countries. It's great that things are being told now and maybe we can learn something new from them.
Indeed. And more to come!
Excellent video on a subject I had no knowledge existed!
Thank you
Amazing ! Just when I think , how can Chornobyl Family one up the the last piece . Then Chornobyl Family kicks it up a NOTCH !
:) thank you
Ah ha! There you are!
Greetings from (currently sunny) Florida!
Hello there!
@ChernobylFamily all are well, Admiral Frame hopes. 👍👍👍👍
Great Video. Never heard that before. Thanks for sharing
There will be many more things a few know about :) Stay tuned!
Do you have any knowledge of the actual ingredients of the glue for either future clean-ups or just curios scholars? I've been interested in the disaster for decades and didn't know about this stuff (though its quite reasonable in retrospect)
I am afraid precisely that mixture know only two people: Samoilenko and Kozlova. To ask Samoilenko to talk about Chernobyl is impossible. He refuses to touch this subject. Kozlova lives in Russіа and is a Rosаtom veteran; I do not know if it is actually possible to contact her. But the question is indeed interesting. We'll check what are the options.
Another superb video. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
The failure of the robots serves as a commentary on the Space Race, and limits on Stasi's ability to steal Western chip designs.
High background ionising radiation levels are also a common issue in space tech, and a major part of the solution is silicon-on-sapphire chip technology. (Two other major parts are fault-tolerant software design and redundant hardware design.) Ironically, Soviet crystallomancers seem to have had an edge in synthetic sapphire tech in the '70s, but I guess they either never realised the benefits of growing high-purity silicone upon a layer of sapphire, or maybe they couldn't explain the benefits to the Central Planning Committee. Maybe Stasi's spy activities required the blueprints to be easily photographable and the crystal-growing theory didn't fit the mould. In any case, well, overly radiation-sensitive robots was the outcome.
you must build surfaces who can absorb this contaminants when you build the power plant or make holes who can be filled with materials in case of an accident. also the explosion may save us before a bigger nuke blow up there
no-no-no. Directly opposite. You need surfaces which prevent any sorption, otherwise you are literally doom the facility. Don't forget, one of the reasons why roofs had to be cleaned is because sources were emitting all around, including industrial premises _below_ the roof, making effectively impossible to make internal decontamination before roofs are clean.
Thanks Helen!
And her small team. She mentioned around 10 people involved. Basically, in the video you can see most of them near the dipping tank.
Thanks, CF! 👍
Thank you!
Чи можете дати назву книги з якої ви брали інформацію? Бо сама тема надзвичайно цікава, хотілося би заглибитися у це все самостійно, і поглибше
Конкретно про промокашки розказує сама Олена в своїй книзі - Козлова Е.А., Воспоминания о Чернобыле, М., «ИздАТ», 2001 р.
Щодо доповідей Самойленко та ін., тут складніше. Це багатотомна збірка доповідей 1 Загальносоюзної конференції по ЛНА, що пройшла в м. Чорнобиль у 1987, під редакцією Є. Ігнатенко. Проблем в тому, що це видання має аж 100 екземплярів і воно було суто внутрішнє для Зони відчуження та пов'язаних НДІ, тож за межами Зони його знайти наврядче можливо. Може є в Вернадці. Більша частина їх не зберіглася, тому що вже в 90-х це було застаріле видання видане під пильним оком КДБ, тому його часто використовували як "підставки під каву". Може відскануємо якщо придумаємо як розшити правильно ці книги.
Деякі речі, викладені у збірці суттєво уточнювалися пізніше, тож додаткову інформацію можна знайти в збірках "Чернобыль-94", "Чернобыль-96" та ін. а також у т.н. "жовтому збірнику" - альманасі "Проблеми Чорнобильської зони".
I don't get why the debris needed to moved. Couldn't they have covered it up along with everything else? Any loose debris could be shoveled into the exploded building, no? What would happen if they waited a few days for short half-life elements to decay?
Decay? There was like 10 000 roentgens per hour in some parts of The roof how long you think they would need to wait for it to Decay?
They stated early in the video that the roof had a bitumen tar like coating, so the hot debris melted into the tar making it hard to shovel.
You have to remove the debris because the stuff that isn't stuck can break down into smaller pieces and blow away or get washed off with rain.
They did try a remote controlled bulldozer to push the debris in the exploded reactor but it was at the very early stages of remote controlled any thing at that time.
Also remember that some of the halflives of the debris is incredibly long, like thousands of years.
I believe this metaphor will work: imagine you are trying to place wallpapers in your apartment when a few apartments around are under a fire, with increasing heat making being inside your place impossible.
Here it was the same, just the fire was invisible. What was on the roofs, emitted not only _up_ but also _down_ making impossible to stay inside important power plant premises, or start ventilation system, or make any construction operations which required presence of people on the roof. It was also a source of the deadly dust.
The power plant is _huge_. I mean, _really huge_, and only a part was affected. To save and keep controllable all other parts, this big job had to be done. It was not possible to cover things just so, because structural elements of the building have weight limits (though ideas to concrete the roofs over emerged at early stage but was abandoned quickly because of said factor and radiation going through the roof down).
Check the first episode of the series where we explain evolution of the Zone, you can see there a diagram of isotopes ejected from the reactor. Not only many were long-living, they were very highly active. Those that lived short, actually turn to another radioactive elements. Multiply this to aerosol-form nuclides, and you get the most hellish cocktail you need to deal with.
@@blades7558 yes. Just to clarify, there were very successful robots, such as STR-1, but that was more an exception. See th-cam.com/video/DqIF9ZXiFiE/w-d-xo.html
Ok, I see. Thank you for explaining.
Hello friend, could you tell me the name of the chemical compound that the helicopters used to spray the Chernobyl area? I heard the name "burbat" or "durbat" It was a chemical compound that washed away radioactive particles and prevented them from floating in the air again.
"Burda" in verbal language, "Barda" mostly in documentation. In both cases stress on the ending. This word, as far as I remember, is generally used in Russian in a meaning "weird/strange mixture" (with ironical intonation). We somewhere have a detailed description of this compound, though it looks like the name was colloquial for many compounds.
@@ChernobylFamily Okey, i found in book Midnight in Chernobyl - "Specialists from NIKIMOT, which is under the Ministry of Medium Machine Construction, combed factories across the country looking for anything that could bind dust..Throughout the summer, everything was transported to the zone by rail, including PVA glue and burba - a paste made from beets and sawmill waste - and then sprayed onto the area from helicopters."
@predi888 That's excellent!
Why not spray glue on the ground around and on the roof. To seal the radioactive dust.
I am not sure if you watched the video completely - there is a short fragment where spraying is pictured. But see, the problem was wider than dust! Those were large high-active fragments which emitted in all directions, including below them, through the ceiling of underneath rooms, so that made impossible or very hard to stay in many places and make there works. Think about it as extinguishing a fire, you need to remove the source of it.
This cleaning method is Soviet Approved!
Unreal levels of jankiness.
Still, it worked
She is a hero! ❤👍☢️😃🌹🌻🌷
Yes! And how many as her we don't know about!
Interesting video! Any reason why they didn’t just bury the whole thing under a ton (or a few tons) of earth?
My answer will be rather long, because it is a complex question, which in fact was a subject of very intense discussions back in the day.
Before all, the "whole thing" of the power plant is nearly a kilometer long and although it got contaminated inside (because ventilation systems continued to operate for a few hours after initial nuclide ejection), at some point it became clear that it is very much possible to separate the affected part with Unit IV and gradually return remaining part into operation after a thorough cleanup - which happened.
However, apart from the section which belonged to Unit IV, the explosion contaminated the rooftops of turbine hall, Unit III (3), and Unit "V" ("V" specifically here is a letter, not a latin number, and is a name of a building on which the iconic VT-2 chimney stood and which had _shared_ systems for Units III and IV). Therefore, in the scope of said two sections it was crucial to clean that up, as otherwise intact unit would be unusable. Plus there was a significant radioactive emission _through_ the roofs to rooms below.
So exactly what you say was one of the initial ideas for the very first isolation facility (what later was named as Object Shelter officially, or known as Sarcophagus in slang). At that stage there was no understanding what is the situation in many of hundreds rooms of the Unit IV, so this idea was rejected as it would create a significant overweight to sandy soils on which the NPP stands and it would mean a loss of control over the fuel-containing masses.
A second return to this idea was during the international competition for the best project of the Shelter-2 in 1992 (what after many many iterations ended in creating of the New Safe Confinement, or the Arch). One of the projects, which was called PLUTON ("Pluto") meant creating a soil, cat litter and concrete pyramid-like hill. Upon mathematical modeling, it became clear that this will make more problems than positive effects as it will make a monitoring of the facility impossible.
I hope this helps. If you have more questions, feel free to ask.
P.S. Cat litter (bentonite) is not a joke; it is a perfect inert material for isolation works in nuclear industry and radioactive waste processing.
Wow, it's very interesting
It is, and it is just one of many things of this kind.... stay tuned!
They say they should’ve had a containment building But I think that would’ve been pointless explosion that powerful I don’t think it would’ve held it in and I always wondered if it happened in the United States do you think they would’ve done the same Great job on your video only knew a little bit about the helicopters flying it over and using it to clean the roof that’s all I knew amazing how much stuff they had to do it will never find out Keep up the great work
A proper containment building might have held, though the blowout panels certainly would have blown out. This wasn't hydrogen filling the whole building and detonating like Fukushima. The "bucket" survived, and the lid was thrown to about the level of the roof. Believe it or not, it could have been much worse.
ohhhh nice, but i hope the subtitles are good! cause i always have alot of problem understanding these heavy accent pronounciations lollll
yess the subtitles were pretty good!
I am sorry mate, I am not a native speaker and to be honest I have quite heavy breathing problems (this is a result of working in moldy areas in the Zone), so English phonetics is a big pain.
@@ChernobylFamily ohh yeah no worry, the accent does very much add to the vibe of the video! if that means it is hard for me to understand, well i should just practice in hearing better! xD
your sacrifice will be great and I am willing to make it
Excuse me, what?
How many people could it have saved? Sadly that would not have been a factor.
It is hard to say or estimate, but if it could have saved at least one person from future issues, it made it already worth.
Little something we didnt know in Ukraine...
❤️much love for 🇺🇦 ukraine❤️ from USA ❤️
Thank you!
Your wife you and how many cats? Great TH-cam videos
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Thank you!