@2:15 there also had to compensate the load bearing of the design due to the weight of the massive balls of the drivers that operated these machines. :D All jokes aside, eternal glory to the Liquidators. Real life heroes, every single one of them.
Right - but the USSR did NOT provide any true info about the harm that will happen and how bad the situation was!!! We- Germany/West - knew in 84 because a Norwegian (afaik) weather station read unusual values! And the UKR did not know either!
Imagine being a lead-armored truck driver and being promoted at a "fancy lakeside resort for some landscaping work" after finishing your job in the Chornobyl Zone...
"Oh yeah, just small 2 hour job at lake Karaychay, you will be just fine. Enjoy the fresh mountain air Vlad. " says the administrator with a slight smile and pointing to a medal should the person accept it. 🤔😮🥴🤯🤯
Firefighters and drivers fulfilled the task of the Party and the Politburo in this special atomic operation. They were given accommodation in Mitinskoe-Mockba (cemetery). Za pobedu/peremohu.
@silverismoney mate. This is the point. I am not entertaining, I am trying to share our life. By the way, get ready for the new episode tomorrow, if I will not get asleep on my keyboard :)
The dedication to an enormous task, liquidator's were true hero's of an unimaginable point in history. I remember as a child the Western news on TV- only decades later did the full horror and sacrifices become clear. Thank you for a wonderful explanation of efforts made by many.
They were awarded with medals the Order of the Red Banner, the Order of Lenin, and even the Hero of the Soviet Union (always posthumously). My grandma had group photo of around 50 firefighters before their action there and then picture of 50 white crosses on Mitinskoe cemetery. pokoysya s mirom
Always fascinating, I can't tell you how much I appreciate what you all are doing. Even in the face of war, you're making sure the history and knowledge is preserved. It's bloody epic is what it is, and to paraphrase Neal Stephenson, you are a group of what can only be described as `Stupendous Badasses`.
To my mind, this little fact is not that simple as it looks. It goes together with that thing about missing car heaters, illustrating the level of delusions in high offices. See, if the problem can be resolved within half a year, before the cold, it is rather a small problem, right? If it is simple, then, hiding things that prove it actually has quite sharp edges ( = conditions, which require an entire lead capsule ) might be simple as well, hence ideas like camouflaging appeared. Communist guys were not idiots; they would demand camouflaging only because they were sure that would work, and it actually would work, if their estimation would be good back then. When we've been editing this video, we worked with basically VHS/Betacam footage, now the question - how big is the chance to detect a strange internals of a KRAZ truck's cabin on a VHS screen? Or, take it bigger, for a camera operator to pay an attention to _just one more_ KRAZ truck at the very busy site? While it sounds crazy, if all things would work, today no one would not know those machines ever existed; except some real marginal zone-heads like us and our friends. Edit: and here comes a questions, how many _successful_ cases of hiding things actually worked?
@@ChernobylFamily Mother Nature took care of that concern- once detectors started to show elevated levels in airborne particles outside the borders, and people realized the radiation signatures- there would be Difficult Questions asked which could only be denied with "Everything is fine" for so long. I'm guessing the camouflage concepts were abandoned at about the same time that aerial footage of the destroyed reactor hall was released to the media?
That modern I took at Buryakivka in 2010. We barely managed to get a permission to get inside, but on a condition we won't record videos, only take pictures.
As a heavy truck tech. Yeah. Ugh. Not comfy. Whole damn truck is soaked in radiation, in America we glorify the truckers. Fact check, they are steering wheel holders, few know how to use a manual gearbox, even fewer do safety pre and post check, this job though I gotta give credit, drivers here had some balls that’s for sure!
Those truck look Mad Max metal af 🔥🤘 Another really fascinating video & footage I'd never seen before. Really enjoying your Chernobyl Uncharted videos 👍
I could personaly compare KrAZ and Tatra. Both with unique terrain features but KrAZ was personally bit more agile in terrain. So after nuclear war will be usefull.
Thank you very much for this interesting insight; I hope more videos will be released about the special vehicles used during the Chernobyl disaster cleanup. It would also be nice to explore and name all those silent heroes who, with their tireless work, designed and implemented these machines in a very short time. Greetings from Italy.
It was one of a kind disaster that required one of a kind technology. While understandably the human sacrifice of many who didn't know the danger they were entering is mostly talked about. I'm always more fascinated by the specially modified vehicles as well as both big and small robots couple together in the initial disaster or carefully crafted in the aftermath.
Well said. And it was not the only machine modified - we will talk about that as well, but first we need to get more visuals. BTW, did you check our videos about robots?
I could be wrong, but that seems to have been the same story for every nuclear power in the 20th century: they may have had greater or lesser levels of redundant passive or active safety systems to try to *prevent* an accident, but nobody in any country seems to really have made much preparation to have to deal with the *aftermath* of a civilian nuclear accident if it ever did occur. Lots of detailed plans and preparations were made to try to respond to a nuclear war, but every time there is such a civilian accident, contingency planning seems to have been so minimal that everyone has to try to work out the solution from first principles, when there is very little time to do that and, as we have seen time and again, common sense cannot be relied upon because nuclear physics is weird and doesn't follow the laws of common sense.
@@tommcewan7936 That is true. Although the safety systems protect the reactor from failure, they are not completely foolproof. If radioactive material gets into the environment from the nuclear power plant, there seems to be nothing more than a plan on paper. The local rescue service is only capable of first aid. If the emissions are higher, we are really in trouble. This should be talked about more so that in the event of accidents there would be better preparedness to protect citizens. Information should travel without delays. I have not selfishly thought about how poorly this matter has been handled.
Thanks for the extra information on Pidlisny. I've looking for some extra info about it since that Chernobyl cameras video you've made a while ago. Great job searching up all this information!
About Pidlisny it is rather tricky. That place appeared as a hysterical response to a growing trouble with the very first burial site which was called Pivnichny ("North"), that's why it was so quickly built and badly placed. Pivnichny literally was sort of a ditch with high-active waste and seeing that blew the minds of gov't task force, so it was quickly removed. But, there almost no information about it remained.
When you consider the radiation halving thickness of lead is 0.4", 2" of lead behind your back isnt exactly great protection for 10Sv/hr. 2" is 5 halving thicknesses that'd reduce this to ~0.3Sv/hrs - that's a lot!
@@ttl3000 the question is localization, wind lift, etc., etc. There are techniques how to reduce effects of that, which are used widely even today. They not always a final solution, but mostly work well.
How were the trucks fueled during the removal of highly radioactive materials? Wouldn’t the individual be exposed to high levels that had to refuel trucks?
While there is no precise information, we assume that from a mobile fuel trucks OR at a fuel base of Pripyat. It is unlikely said person got an extreme dose due to time limit needed and regular applied decontamination. We assume it was rather average.
@ Ukraine was under Soviet union before no? But true enough, I should have written Soviet and not Russia to be more clear. But Ukraine as we know it today were making great fertilizer.
@ChernobylFamily ohhh ye its worth a long episode about that. Thanks for youre great and interesting videos. I can say its originally videos and stories
@@nojusfisas6638 actually, Our Friend Boris™(we mentioned him in the video) managed to track the fate of many IMRs based on their on-board numbers. So a big work is ahead, but it will be interesting.
This is an interesting question. According to V. Kholyavko, before capsules were installed, each was thoroughly tested by specialists from the Zhovti Vody Mining and Processing Plant, which is Ukraine's uranium extraction hub, so they have industrial radiation sources. We believe that it shielded well, but so far there are no numbers available. Also, there are no personal accounts as given a small number of trucks likely the number of drivers was not big as well.
@@ChernobylFamily Hi! Yes. the name was Michail Lankin, born in Simbirsk, later Ulyanovsk - from which my mother came too. Never asked why he was stationed in Belarus, but it was USSR, that's why I guess. He was in an army that day. They called for volunteers with a promise of a great recompense for their efforts. As I mentioned, he got a medal (I have it with me, took it when I fled to Poland), I dunno if it has any historical value or made out of any valuable material - I just took it as a remembrance. He also received a small apartment on a outskirts of Minsk, which is not much, but appreciated. The value of this apartments right now is around 50k usd, but was sold upon his death. My mother says he was a driver when he was serving in a USSR armed forces. Whether he was volunteer or not is debatable. But, nonetheless he was transported into Homel, an oblastnoy center near Chernobyl oblast and then drove to NPP site from there. Something was loaded into the truck and he was ordered to drive it somewhere where other people did something, then drive truck to a parking yard - much reminiscent of Rust Graveyard but in the other location an leave it there. No fancy stuff. He was a soldier. This is what I know and this is what he knew.
@@ChernobylFamily As for his death - it was most likely related to alcoholism. As you know, it was prominent in a post-soviet era. He felled over and fractured his skull. Not a rad-related problem, I guess. But I can't be sure. Sorry if info is spare, but it's all what I have.
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i remember around the time of chornobyl, over here in Englang we to had an accident at sizewell b nuclear power plant. they are going to build another one called sizewell c.?
Despite all the conversions did they actually work in protecting the drivers? I suspect it was more for show just like wearing lead plates for the liquidators (bio robots) who worked on the roof
The use of shields is a cornerstone of radiation safety. You can calculate the suppressed radiation dose power with a formula Q = Qi x 0.5^(d/h), where Qi is initial level, d - thisckness of the shield, h is half-value layer which is a thickness required to reduce the power of radiation to half; for lead it is roughly 1 cm. If say we have Qi = 1 Sv/h and d = 3 cm, then the dose power behind the shield will be 0.125 Sv/h, which is 8 times lower. When you deal with radiation, any shield is better than no shield at all.
Compared to what was involved in making these trucks and other equipment to do the cleanup, I think reverse-retrofitting a purely mechanical engine, etc. to a modern truck would be easy.
Eh a lot of heavy equipment engines get all their cooling from filtered radiators and have the engine air inflow through multiple filters to keep dust out, you'd just need to armor the engine enclosure and step up the filtration
Do you find that videography/photography is much affected by the radiation these days? It's hard to tell with the video compression artefacts so am just wondering.
From what we know, visible effects on recording start when the level of ambient radiation is around 5R/h (roughly 43 milliSv/h). With film-based cinema recordings/photography it can be lower, but anyway still should be very high. Back in the day, it was a common issue. Nowadays you can get visible artifacts when walking inside the certain areas inside Sarcophagus. It is very much visible on Oleksandr Kupny videos and photos.
The motion picture is a fragment of Rollan Serhyenko's _Threshold_ (1988), which was digitized by our colleagues from PripyatCom from an original reel back in 2010. Still shots I made myself approximately at the same time.
Radiation is not a magic substance; you always have a source of it, so there is no average levels. You drive away from the source to less-contaminated or clean area, remove the surface contamination using a special chemistry or at least reduce it to acceptable level, and then it is possible to service. Of course, at Unit 4 site there were neutron sources in many places (which are the _only_ which can make something _itself_ radioactive), so some things at some point you cannot wash away anymore. It is a question of luck.
I imagine that the design changes were also practical for this reason - not just to reduce the chance of failure in a contaminated area, but also to reduce service points, such as opportunities for mechanisms to clog or require adjustment. I have to assume that they realized these machines would not be in service very long, so in certain areas would have tried to make it last as long as it needed to and not worry about distant service intervals too much. Perhaps the frame reinforcement to support the lead cabin made changing the clutch or transmission oil difficult - both irrelevant if the machine will be retired before requiring service
@ChernobylFamily Ahh, I understand :D I've had this username for well over 10 years, I guess with current events it has become a bit more... undesireable :D (and I promise I will not go and dig trenches and foxholes into it)
@ChernobylFamily I have watched it and it was good as always. I missed some videos of the Uncharted series and I am surprised about how many things you know. I expected you to be a technical guy, not to know about history as well and be able to teach this in an engaging way. Well done
We mostly talk about tech due to very severe limitations of making videos in the actual Zone now; otherwise we'd literally walk in Pripyat or elsewhere in every episode explaining things...) edit: typos
It is not a lesson against nuclear power - there is no alternative to it. It is a lesson against idiots in state management which makes a perfect tool a big problem.
Partly it was as you say, but depending on waste activity. Some things physically cannot be transported on usual unprotected trucks, so that's why those weird solutions like PTS-2 transporter you could see in the video, appeared.
@2:15 there also had to compensate the load bearing of the design due to the weight of the massive balls of the drivers that operated these machines. :D
All jokes aside, eternal glory to the Liquidators. Real life heroes, every single one of them.
@@thesayxx :)
Did they know...?
@@daviniusb6798 know what? that they are hauling highly radioactive materials? yea they knew
Right - but the USSR did NOT provide any true info about the harm that will happen and how bad the situation was!!!
We- Germany/West - knew in 84 because a Norwegian (afaik) weather station read unusual values! And the UKR did not know either!
@@derJackistweg 1986
Imagine being a lead-armored truck driver and being promoted at a "fancy lakeside resort for some landscaping work" after finishing your job in the Chornobyl Zone...
Oh yes
"Oh yeah, just small 2 hour job at lake Karaychay, you will be just fine. Enjoy the fresh mountain air Vlad. " says the administrator with a slight smile and pointing to a medal should the person accept it. 🤔😮🥴🤯🤯
Firefighters and drivers fulfilled the task of the Party and the Politburo in this special atomic operation. They were given accommodation in Mitinskoe-Mockba (cemetery).
Za pobedu/peremohu.
can i just that it's pretty goddamn heroic this guy continues to entertain us given the conditions in his country right now? outstanding. As always
@silverismoney mate. This is the point. I am not entertaining, I am trying to share our life. By the way, get ready for the new episode tomorrow, if I will not get asleep on my keyboard :)
The dedication to an enormous task, liquidator's were true hero's of an unimaginable point in history. I remember as a child the Western news on TV- only decades later did the full horror and sacrifices become clear.
Thank you for a wonderful explanation of efforts made by many.
Thank you! More to come!
We (west) knew very quickly.
They were awarded with medals the Order of the Red Banner, the Order of Lenin, and even the Hero of the Soviet Union (always posthumously).
My grandma had group photo of around 50 firefighters before their action there and then picture of 50 white crosses on Mitinskoe cemetery.
pokoysya s mirom
Always fascinating, I can't tell you how much I appreciate what you all are doing. Even in the face of war, you're making sure the history and knowledge is preserved. It's bloody epic is what it is, and to paraphrase Neal Stephenson, you are a group of what can only be described as `Stupendous Badasses`.
@mikepartin571 thank you. We are just two Inglorious Bastards and one cat.
@@ChernobylFamily Bring back the cat 🙂
Soon!
It’s very interesting to me that the powers that be wanted the trucks camouflaged so as to look like civilian trucks. “Nothing to see here!”
To my mind, this little fact is not that simple as it looks. It goes together with that thing about missing car heaters, illustrating the level of delusions in high offices. See, if the problem can be resolved within half a year, before the cold, it is rather a small problem, right? If it is simple, then, hiding things that prove it actually has quite sharp edges ( = conditions, which require an entire lead capsule ) might be simple as well, hence ideas like camouflaging appeared. Communist guys were not idiots; they would demand camouflaging only because they were sure that would work, and it actually would work, if their estimation would be good back then. When we've been editing this video, we worked with basically VHS/Betacam footage, now the question - how big is the chance to detect a strange internals of a KRAZ truck's cabin on a VHS screen? Or, take it bigger, for a camera operator to pay an attention to _just one more_ KRAZ truck at the very busy site? While it sounds crazy, if all things would work, today no one would not know those machines ever existed; except some real marginal zone-heads like us and our friends.
Edit: and here comes a questions, how many _successful_ cases of hiding things actually worked?
@@ChernobylFamily not like anyone would question that I think. Make mental note to stay as far away as possible and GTFO of the area.
@@ChernobylFamily Mother Nature took care of that concern- once detectors started to show elevated levels in airborne particles outside the borders, and people realized the radiation signatures- there would be Difficult Questions asked which could only be denied with "Everything is fine" for so long. I'm guessing the camouflage concepts were abandoned at about the same time that aerial footage of the destroyed reactor hall was released to the media?
@@nigefoxx There was a bit trickier situation, lies pretty much continued up to 1989. Check the Ep01, where we talk about Zone's expansion...
Yet the trucks weren't actually for civilian use...
Great info, I always love hearing about how they decontaminate while putting people in as little risk as possible.
Speaking of which, more to come!
Great video. I find anything with equipment super interesting. You have put together great footage even of the modern trucks!
That modern I took at Buryakivka in 2010. We barely managed to get a permission to get inside, but on a condition we won't record videos, only take pictures.
Another excellent episode. Thank you!
Our pleasure!
Driver had easy job, imagine mechanics trying to keep it running ind suche conditions
Yes. Though, we can not exclude the psychological factor that surely was present for a driver.
As a heavy truck tech. Yeah. Ugh. Not comfy. Whole damn truck is soaked in radiation, in America we glorify the truckers. Fact check, they are steering wheel holders, few know how to use a manual gearbox, even fewer do safety pre and post check, this job though I gotta give credit, drivers here had some balls that’s for sure!
Great Video. So well put together and informative. Thanks again for all of your hard work. My Best from the US ... Jim
Thank you, Jim! Every time we see you commenting it gives so warm feeling!
Those truck look Mad Max metal af 🔥🤘 Another really fascinating video & footage I'd never seen before. Really enjoying your Chernobyl Uncharted videos 👍
Glad you enjoyed, we’re working on a new episode - out tomorrow!
Very interesting; thank you!
Our pleasure!
So are you going to buy KRaZ 256 and going to convert it?🙂
Damn it! Our secret plan is busted!
Только оазве что визуальную реплику.
I could personaly compare KrAZ and Tatra. Both with unique terrain features but KrAZ was personally bit more agile in terrain. So after nuclear war will be usefull.
It is very good that such less known details are being made into videos for everybody to see.
We believe this is the way to do it..!
Fantastic video! One of the best
Best? And what is about the K340A masterpiece?)))
@ oh sorry I meant it’s one of the best videos I’ve seen from you guys :)
@@TheMamosians I am just joking )))
Imagine traveling across a contaminated enviroment and you have no clue where the hot spots are like you do today...
Yes. And do not forget about aerosols. That makes it even creepier.
Thank you very much for this interesting insight; I hope more videos will be released about the special vehicles used during the Chernobyl disaster cleanup. It would also be nice to explore and name all those silent heroes who, with their tireless work, designed and implemented these machines in a very short time. Greetings from Italy.
Gradually, that will come. There is much to say about IMRs and about ARS-14 (decontamination vehicles) as well
Finally a kraz 256 video I couldn’t find almost anything on this
Glad to help!
It was one of a kind disaster that required one of a kind technology. While understandably the human sacrifice of many who didn't know the danger they were entering is mostly talked about. I'm always more fascinated by the specially modified vehicles as well as both big and small robots couple together in the initial disaster or carefully crafted in the aftermath.
Well said. And it was not the only machine modified - we will talk about that as well, but first we need to get more visuals. BTW, did you check our videos about robots?
@ChernobylFamily Yes I've already seen it an excellent video.
As always , thank you for the content .
Thank you!
What i think would be very interessting would be a video about the cranes and pumps used on chernobyl because they were proccured from the west.
Indeed it will be. We'll consider that.
I never gave any thought about the vehicles needed to clean up.
Very interesting! Nice presentation.
This is a huge subject, and we will have many interesting stories about it. Stay tuned!
I never knew about these specialized trucks. Very interesting video. I saw a few old Soviet era KRaZ when I visited Armenia.
Glad to help! Well, KRAZes were everywhere.
Interesting video. There was no equipment to protect against radiation, they had to be built. Still, too many were exposed to radiation.
Unfortunately, you are right.
I could be wrong, but that seems to have been the same story for every nuclear power in the 20th century: they may have had greater or lesser levels of redundant passive or active safety systems to try to *prevent* an accident, but nobody in any country seems to really have made much preparation to have to deal with the *aftermath* of a civilian nuclear accident if it ever did occur. Lots of detailed plans and preparations were made to try to respond to a nuclear war, but every time there is such a civilian accident, contingency planning seems to have been so minimal that everyone has to try to work out the solution from first principles, when there is very little time to do that and, as we have seen time and again, common sense cannot be relied upon because nuclear physics is weird and doesn't follow the laws of common sense.
@@tommcewan7936 That is true. Although the safety systems protect the reactor from failure, they are not completely foolproof. If radioactive material gets into the environment from the nuclear power plant, there seems to be nothing more than a plan on paper. The local rescue service is only capable of first aid. If the emissions are higher, we are really in trouble. This should be talked about more so that in the event of accidents there would be better preparedness to protect citizens. Information should travel without delays. I have not selfishly thought about how poorly this matter has been handled.
Petty cool video! Thank you!
Thank you too!
Thanks for the extra information on Pidlisny. I've looking for some extra info about it since that Chernobyl cameras video you've made a while ago.
Great job searching up all this information!
About Pidlisny it is rather tricky. That place appeared as a hysterical response to a growing trouble with the very first burial site which was called Pivnichny ("North"), that's why it was so quickly built and badly placed. Pivnichny literally was sort of a ditch with high-active waste and seeing that blew the minds of gov't task force, so it was quickly removed. But, there almost no information about it remained.
@ChernobylFamily That explains a lot! Thanks!
Very interesting and well researched 👍
Thank you!
Very rare footage, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hello. As always a wonderful video.
Glad you liked!
@@ChernobylFamilyI enjoy all your wonderful videos
Thanks so much for the information and video.
Greetings from Estonia
Thank you! More to come!
Another very interesting video.
Thank you!
Brilliant vehicles, excellent video 👍
Many thanks! Check other episodes!
When you consider the radiation halving thickness of lead is 0.4", 2" of lead behind your back isnt exactly great protection for 10Sv/hr.
2" is 5 halving thicknesses that'd reduce this to ~0.3Sv/hrs - that's a lot!
Thank you. Your work is excellent.
Thank you so much!
Amazing topic
More to come!
ISU-152M/152K SPGs was also used to ruin walls of te reactor and some buildings. Also with the direct shooting from 152-mm howitzer in them...
...and not only for that.
@@ChernobylFamily yes, but shooting into a radioactive facility to ruin it... soviets in nutshell... (c)
@@ttl3000 i'd not judge here - assuming which levels were there, other options would cause a lot of casualities.
@@ChernobylFamily this is a very controversial, because the explosion also disperses radioactive particles
@@ttl3000 the question is localization, wind lift, etc., etc. There are techniques how to reduce effects of that, which are used widely even today. They not always a final solution, but mostly work well.
Great video Chernobyl Family thank you.
Thank you too!
Excellent video! Mandatory comment for the better reach! 😎🖖
:)
Intriguing and educational,, 👍🥰👍
Thank you kindly for sharing,, 💖🙏💖
Thank you! Check out our other videos. There is much more interesting.
How were the trucks fueled during the removal of highly radioactive materials? Wouldn’t the individual be exposed to high levels that had to refuel trucks?
While there is no precise information, we assume that from a mobile fuel trucks OR at a fuel base of Pripyat. It is unlikely said person got an extreme dose due to time limit needed and regular applied decontamination. We assume it was rather average.
Very intresting video, thanks!
My pleasure!
Very interesting!
We are you think so!
The Russians know how to build solid machines, that is for sure.
*tired sigh* Russians? No problem KRaZ is a Ukrainian factory?
@ Ukraine was under Soviet union before no?
But true enough, I should have written Soviet and not Russia to be more clear. But Ukraine as we know it today were making great fertilizer.
@johanea before Soviet Union we had own republic :) we were doing great fertilizer back then as well;)))
Thanks for share this 💛💛💙💙
Thank you for watching!
Big thanks❤
Glad you liked!
This car looks loike something from fallout. Anyway as usual great informative video. thanks for your work and cheerz from Berlin
Glad you liked!
Thanks man,very good and with alot of info video. But how about very popular and in many photos u can see ИМР-2 military truck.
IMRs are worth a separate episode. We have a few quite iinteresting stories about them, let us gather that and a good episode will come out :)
@ChernobylFamily ohhh ye its worth a long episode about that. Thanks for youre great and interesting videos. I can say its originally videos and stories
@@nojusfisas6638 actually, Our Friend Boris™(we mentioned him in the video) managed to track the fate of many IMRs based on their on-board numbers. So a big work is ahead, but it will be interesting.
Good stuff. Do you happen to know anything about the Komatsu amphibious bulldozer sitting at the Jupiter plant? It must have a story to tell.
Yes, we have a few Yuri Samoilenko's reports regarding its use as well as some footage. I guess we can make one of next episodes about it.
7:20 Will there be any videos about Lake Karachay and the area near by? Thank you!
Unlikely, as we are focused on Chernobyl as we prefer to talk about what we are skilled in.
Understandable, thank you for your content! Maybe some day, we will get a surprise from you about Karachay. 😊
amazing story amazing footage
Thank you!
There is a video here on TH-cam I seen a while back, where they had reporters riding inside these trucks filling in Lake Karachay sometime in the 90s.
The Isu152s were also part of the cleanup
Do you know how the drivers of these trucks fared? Did the shielding protect them sufficiently?
This is an interesting question. According to V. Kholyavko, before capsules were installed, each was thoroughly tested by specialists from the Zhovti Vody Mining and Processing Plant, which is Ukraine's uranium extraction hub, so they have industrial radiation sources. We believe that it shielded well, but so far there are no numbers available. Also, there are no personal accounts as given a small number of trucks likely the number of drivers was not big as well.
Hey, my uncle drove one of those! Got a medal and a apartments in Minsk, later died, sadly.
Oh wow! Can you share more? We find it very important to preserve people's stories.
@@ChernobylFamily Hi! Yes. the name was Michail Lankin, born in Simbirsk, later Ulyanovsk - from which my mother came too. Never asked why he was stationed in Belarus, but it was USSR, that's why I guess. He was in an army that day. They called for volunteers with a promise of a great recompense for their efforts. As I mentioned, he got a medal (I have it with me, took it when I fled to Poland), I dunno if it has any historical value or made out of any valuable material - I just took it as a remembrance. He also received a small apartment on a outskirts of Minsk, which is not much, but appreciated. The value of this apartments right now is around 50k usd, but was sold upon his death.
My mother says he was a driver when he was serving in a USSR armed forces. Whether he was volunteer or not is debatable. But, nonetheless he was transported into Homel, an oblastnoy center near Chernobyl oblast and then drove to NPP site from there. Something was loaded into the truck and he was ordered to drive it somewhere where other people did something, then drive truck to a parking yard - much reminiscent of Rust Graveyard but in the other location an leave it there.
No fancy stuff. He was a soldier. This is what I know and this is what he knew.
@@ChernobylFamily As for his death - it was most likely related to alcoholism. As you know, it was prominent in a post-soviet era. He felled over and fractured his skull. Not a rad-related problem, I guess. But I can't be sure.
Sorry if info is spare, but it's all what I have.
@f1atl1n3 can I kindly ask you for a permission for sharing this at our Patreon (with a credit to you), as people there unlikely read all comments here? It is a valuable story, and thank you for sharing.
@@ChernobylFamily if you thinks it has any value - yes, you have my permission. Personally I think it's a pretty mundane story
i remember around the time of chornobyl, over here in Englang we to had an accident at sizewell b nuclear power plant. they are going to build another one called sizewell c.?
Despite all the conversions did they actually work in protecting the drivers? I suspect it was more for show just like wearing lead plates for the liquidators (bio robots) who worked on the roof
The use of shields is a cornerstone of radiation safety. You can calculate the suppressed radiation dose power with a formula Q = Qi x 0.5^(d/h), where Qi is initial level, d - thisckness of the shield, h is half-value layer which is a thickness required to reduce the power of radiation to half; for lead it is roughly 1 cm.
If say we have Qi = 1 Sv/h and d = 3 cm, then the dose power behind the shield will be 0.125 Sv/h, which is 8 times lower.
When you deal with radiation, any shield is better than no shield at all.
thamk you
Thank you for watching!
You couldn't make a vehicle like this today. The massive amounts of computers that run a modern truck wouldn't survive the radiation.
I guess if a task will be like this, it will be possible.
Compared to what was involved in making these trucks and other equipment to do the cleanup, I think reverse-retrofitting a purely mechanical engine, etc. to a modern truck would be easy.
We could do it! But greedy manufacturers would never because they can’t sell u heated seats in it 😅
You are not an engineer. What's the problem putting computer inside the protected cabin?
Eh a lot of heavy equipment engines get all their cooling from filtered radiators and have the engine air inflow through multiple filters to keep dust out, you'd just need to armor the engine enclosure and step up the filtration
Do you find that videography/photography is much affected by the radiation these days? It's hard to tell with the video compression artefacts so am just wondering.
From what we know, visible effects on recording start when the level of ambient radiation is around 5R/h (roughly 43 milliSv/h). With film-based cinema recordings/photography it can be lower, but anyway still should be very high. Back in the day, it was a common issue. Nowadays you can get visible artifacts when walking inside the certain areas inside Sarcophagus. It is very much visible on Oleksandr Kupny videos and photos.
@@ChernobylFamily Thanks so much for that - I've just checked out some Oleksandr Kupny content - very snowy looking images.
Where did you get the footage of buryakivka burial site?
The motion picture is a fragment of Rollan Serhyenko's _Threshold_ (1988), which was digitized by our colleagues from PripyatCom from an original reel back in 2010. Still shots I made myself approximately at the same time.
Thanks. It was interesting to watch the video because of the lack of footage or photos about the destruction/burial of civilian and army vehicles.
цікаві кадри використані
Цікаво, чи не АвтоКРАЗі збереглися якісь саме кінозаписи.
Hey next on sovit nuclear power for far light house
Whuch is use to nevgate ships
We are Chernobyl insiders, so those RITEGs you are talking about are, unfortunately, not our specialization.
0:03 is that a reference to the new stalker game ? :)
Not really :) while we like the trilogy, we do not really follow the new game
*Very* useful vehicle in a zombie apocalypse.
We'd more go for uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/БАТ-2 (sorry, no english page there, but there are images)
@@ChernobylFamily That is a lovely machine! Would certainly be handy to have around the farm :D
Ty:D
Yw!
Still I would not have felt safe inside one of them.. operating so close to the pool of death that the reactor is..
We can say judging by ourselves: you get used to it and it happens fast. This is indeed not good, but this is how it works.
With that level of radiation, how the hell do you service or repair any part of the truck outside the capsule?
Radiation is not a magic substance; you always have a source of it, so there is no average levels. You drive away from the source to less-contaminated or clean area, remove the surface contamination using a special chemistry or at least reduce it to acceptable level, and then it is possible to service. Of course, at Unit 4 site there were neutron sources in many places (which are the _only_ which can make something _itself_ radioactive), so some things at some point you cannot wash away anymore. It is a question of luck.
I imagine that the design changes were also practical for this reason - not just to reduce the chance of failure in a contaminated area, but also to reduce service points, such as opportunities for mechanisms to clog or require adjustment. I have to assume that they realized these machines would not be in service very long, so in certain areas would have tried to make it last as long as it needed to and not worry about distant service intervals too much. Perhaps the frame reinforcement to support the lead cabin made changing the clutch or transmission oil difficult - both irrelevant if the machine will be retired before requiring service
I read the Russians left about 3000 mines in the exclusion zone-are there plans to recover them?
Yes, same as all across the country. But, it is a big work...
5.5bar 550kpa 79.77psi
7.5bar 750kpa 108.78psi
What it with freedom units, like you gotta carry around a chart to figure stuff out?
Good one
Reminds me Kenworth 853.
There is something common, but as I see that one is huuuuge
i wanna build out an old station wagon like this call it the razorback or smth
Sounds like an epic project!
If CEOs of Greek construction companies see you video they'll try to buy those irradiated trucks to save money.
Bhaha
litterally two seconds into the video theres a s.t.a.l.k.e.r. reference lol
:)
@ChernobylFamily :)
there are many kraz trucks still in operation today still hard to believe thirty forty years lator
These machines are built to last.
suddenly, all mad max trucks look like toys...
Well, yes :)
Do you know the exact location of Pidlisny? Google seems to only turn up a few photos, but nothing else...
@@-T90Vladimir *looking at username* good attempt, comrade major :D
(sorry, cannot resist)
@ChernobylFamily Ahh, I understand :D I've had this username for well over 10 years, I guess with current events it has become a bit more... undesireable :D
(and I promise I will not go and dig trenches and foxholes into it)
i will watch this video after i am done petting my cat Ernie 🐈
@@van0tot100 Meow!
@ChernobylFamily I have watched it and it was good as always.
I missed some videos of the Uncharted series and I am surprised about how many things you know. I expected you to be a technical guy, not to know about history as well and be able to teach this in an engaging way.
Well done
We mostly talk about tech due to very severe limitations of making videos in the actual Zone now; otherwise we'd literally walk in Pripyat or elsewhere in every episode explaining things...)
edit: typos
@@ChernobylFamily But your job is something technical right?
@@van0tot100 My job right now is this channel and patreon; in the Zone I am more a historian.
This guy is going to recreate chernobyl! LoL
A spicy detail that you are not that far from truth. Stay tuned, you will see.
Soviet moon lander.
That is more for an STR-1 robot:)
The truck survived, the driver did not.
Sarcasm detected, but if serious, everyone was all right. The machine did its job.
The soundtrack sounds like it was ripped straight from "Inside Chernobyl", a 37 minute TH-cam documentary from like 12 years ago
It is not - it is Kevin MacLeod's track.
From 5:51 to 5:57 man is runing WTF
Consider the floor is lava. Seriously, when there is a heavy radiation level, a proper time management often is the key of safety, so.... we run.
Maladiets!
Language!
Ore miner here!
"We are an instrument of doom"
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The video thumbnail looks like it was ripped from "Mad Max: Fury Road" 😄
Witness me.
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Thank you!
Thank you for your telling of and about the Chornobyl trucks and the 1986 disaster, as a lesson against the use of Nuclear power...
It is not a lesson against nuclear power - there is no alternative to it. It is a lesson against idiots in state management which makes a perfect tool a big problem.
It's not a lesson against nuclear... it's a lesson against bureaucrat corruption and delusion.
Kpa3💪👍
Yessss
Hah, »Lead« Engineer. Sure is.
No pun intended..)
They remind me of Disneys Goofy character.
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0´36 30 mil. X?xD like the yank dude milli to mega 1 mil diFF xxD
Translate, please, to understandable language. Thank you.
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Sounds a bit like BS to me
What specifically?
Start making ukrainian language videos.
We do not have the technical capacity to handle two languages at once. This is basically a separate editing.
@ChernobylFamily Uh, OK. You use simple english so i understand all. Thanks for vids!
*Ukrainian
P.S. we often add Ukrainian subtitles
great russian work
You do not see a problem with geography in your statement ?;)
For a second before watching a video i thought you want to rebuild this Kraz
"Українці, цей день настав" (с)
I always thought they just dumped everything into normal trucks and took it away
Partly it was as you say, but depending on waste activity. Some things physically cannot be transported on usual unprotected trucks, so that's why those weird solutions like PTS-2 transporter you could see in the video, appeared.
@ChernobylFamily i still find it interesting how'd they cleaned up and moved everything.
@falke_blade9341 it is a very interesting subject. Tomorrow will come a new video exactly about that.
@ChernobylFamily awesome!! I do remember having a conversation with a Ukrainian and they told me the experience they had as a teen when it happened
жаль на английском речь.я его не понимаю
Рекомендую освоить азы. Безотносительно к нашей работе, так вы сможете получить доступ к огромному количеству мировых знаний.