Does Vlad Vexler have an ideology?
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This sounds promising ❤
leftist... i was really disappointed by your thoughts on Israel war
I have been working on a written outline of my own worldview to formulate my starting point and expose where it is vague or non-existent. This is a wonderful video doing a little bit of the same.
Socrates, Plato & Aristotle planted the foundations on how to seek for truth thru curiosity, self awareness & consensus building.
Those that came after had personal blind spots & self contradictions that narrowed their focus on discovering truth which helped create the tribal factions we have today which is leading us astray, divided & stagnant.
If we move past the Hegelian dialectic which creates win/lose solutions to a trialectic reasoning that creates a best of both worlds consensus building, it'll open a whole new world of potential solutions creating more win/win environments and more progress per generation.
This is what can lead us toward the Star Trek future of abundance & prosperity, and finally move us past the current stagnation.
I am working on a post Jungian philosophy seeking to bridge the esoteric with the exoteric attempting to reveal where science & religion/spiritual concepts are attempts to explain the same reality but from different perspectives.
It would also create a 3rd option towards finding solutions to move us past the binary Hegelian dialectic click-bait battles between dogmatic status seeking tribes vs reactionary clout chasing grifters causing most of the current societal stagnation in Human progress.
My theory would also help explain the historical idea of the soul and it's connection to consciousness and biology.
Glad to be part of the 12%. Thank you for the candid chat. It’s great to hear your thoughts about your leanings & I feel your framing was well considered.
I think it’s healthy to be a little self indulgent from time to time.
Occupy Vlad’s Street: We are the 12%. There are dozens of us!
Thumbs up for the Arrested Development reference, which was probably understood by dozens. DOZENS!
It's hard when even the propaganda of the favored side elicits actual thinking.... I would love to just do identity and forget about everything else....that's why there are not too many of us. It's hard to actually think responsibly.
Was a pleasure to listen to.
Some thoughts: Ideology is like a fighting stance.
Just as a fighting stance is hard limited by the form of the human body, an ideology is limited by what the holder of it believes the fundamental psychology of humans to be. It is also necessarily impacted by the body/mind (respectively) of the particular human being involved.
Second, just as a fighting stance is informed by the school/martial art being taught (which comes with a general set of goals and aversions), an ideology has goals both positive and negative, and tools for accomplishing said same. Someone who learned how to fight in a boxing ring is probably not going to have a primary goal of wresting their opponent to the ground.
It is these two things combined that creates both a base to act from, conceivable ranges of possible action as well as predicted outcomes of taking them, leading to patterns of action to interact with the world to get to the desired "local" or work toward the desired general end state.
The negative ideology described in the video (institutional and power pressure inculcating ideology) is like the school in many ways, as well as the experience of getting your ass beat (or perhaps winning). What's interesting about this is that we don't necessarily learn the lessons power wants to teach us (beating kids does not at all necessarily lead to respect for authority).
Ideology is therefore necessarily expressed by interacting with other ideologies, and you really can't counter another ideology (or work with it) if you can't comprehend what's going on in the stance of the person you're facing.
I agree with the negative ideological bias you express, and I might go a little further in that to me most important choices boil down to pick the least awful downside. This may be an artifact of my professional career.
I really like both the metaphor and how you presented it. To build on it a bit, the kind of relationship to ideology that Vlad describes himself as having would be similar to that of a skilled mixed martial artist to fighting
@@henriklarsson5867 I took a page from Ha Joon Chang's idea of economic theories - he consideres most economic -isms as toolboxes, each with different strengths and weaknesses - and taking what works well from each as you need them is much better than being a toolbox purist. :D
Thank you, Vlad. Take care of your health as much as you can.
I listened through to the end. I need to seriously get beck to reading Philosophy again.
Thank you thank you
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on philosophy and ideology. I will have to listen to it again.
The comment about self-editing and the unconscious: how could this be investigated in a meaningful way for the individual?
I am really committed to talking more about this. At an individual level, I will be doing some practical sessions on this.
Values conflict! Our values evolve as we progress through life, as a result of life experiences. Hence a culture will include people who hold a range of values, achieved by both positive and negative influences.
Very interesting and blunt video. My specialty is law, not political philosophy. Despite this, the social sciences are what give me pleasure to study and read about in my free time. I come from a very specific tradition of Marxism created by catholic priests, priests involved in the liberation theology movement.
The sense of community is fundamental in my political thinking.
Intellectual pestilence is one of my new favourite phrases this week, along with 'thought-terminating cliche' haha.
I know it wasn't raised here, but I still maintain 20th century postmodernism was outlining the rise of 21st post-truthism in our global consumer society. It wasn't advocating for post-truthism in the populist authoritarian, or radical progressive, senses, it was elucidating the materialising conditions, or the features of post-truth's emergence.
Aside the actual theorists, I always go back to that dinner scene from 'the invasion' 2007. The Dr's line as a psychologist is not about there being no truth to find between the russian and czech diplomats, between the authoritarian & democratic, between realism and liberalism etc. Nor that one can't be right in a sitaution. It is that in the process of constructing truth people defer to their ideology (whether negatively or positively). Thus, we should develop processes or ideologies which acknowledge their own bias, rather than be mired in them or in hypocrisy...and organise to build a better world. It's like you said, a way of inoculating against the regressive prejudice of ideology, of media & algorithms, of forms of post-truth etc.
I initially didn't think much about the term postmodernism as an ideological label, it was just like dadaism or modernism in art. But after hearing J Peterson label 'postmodern neomarxists' as the prime enemy, I've embraced the idea of this term as an ironic ideological label. Sort of like how dealing with the politics of orthodox religion makes me want to claim i'm a satanist rather than atheist haha.
That was beautiful Vlad. Literally beautiful.
Im part of the 12%!😅 Could you make a video about Slavoj Žižek? I have this awful problem where I often don’t want to go along with the things he says because they leave me with a feeling of emptiness and a lot of pessimism. But I often find it hard to come up with a better argument of my own. I am to stupid to argue but smart enough to understand him. He is like an information hazard that I actively avoid because when I start listening again I fall for it. I don’t like the feelings I have when reading and listening to Žižek but it’s kind of addicting and a fascination at the same time.😅😂
I often have to agree with him a lot and that’s often depressing. He has a bit of a pessimistic view on the future of humanity and I’m only 22. I’m not like him almost dead, I still need life energy and some hope how else am I going to live another 50 years on this earth you know.
I’m sorry I don’t know how else to put it.😂😅
Hi Vlad, I have a question that I think you can see right through but I can't catch a glimps of how you might answer it. It's whether philosophy is radically peculiar?
Thanks for talk, Vlad! I recently read Blakely's book, and my girlfriend is finding it fascinating, too.
Your upcoming Putinite ideology video will be a treat! I'm someone responsibly talk about ideology as applied to a regime.
Take care!
Take care !!
Hey Vlad, does 12% refer to the # who made it through the video understanding everything you said, or just those who were still listening and awake at the end😂? If the former, I didn’t make the cut, but if the latter, I did!😅
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I thin "ideology" ist just a negatively connotaded synonym for "World view" or "ideals". Which means, that we all have Ideologies, or maybe, the only way to not have ideologies is to not have any views on anything at all. So, to say, that somebody is "ideological" isn't a criticism, bit rather anacknowledgement, that they have views on some things. You can't even engage with politics at all, if you don't have ideologies of some sort. If you want to criticise somebody on ideology, a much better question might be, Do they have an extreme or evil ideology? Or maybe, is the ideology itself neither evil nor extreme, but you are dogmatic and excessive in the pursuit of your ideological aims. But saying somebody is ideological simply isn't a criticism at all
As always Vlad's view is fascinating to ponder, but I've got one strong disagreement. Vlad mentioned how bothered he was by the "scientism" in certain fields, like someone trying to explain WW2 through psychology. While I strongly agree with Vlad that someone trying to explain WW2 this way is an idiot, the problem has nothing to do with science. There are many fields (economics and politics are particularly bad in this regard) in which people claim that they are doing science and use scientific terms, but what they're doing isn't science at all. Very often, what they're doing is just making stuff up, but applying a narrative to it in a way that allows them to trick themselves into thinking they're doing something scientific. Someone saying that "candidate X should do XYZ because people are psychologically predisposed to ABC" isn't speaking scientifically. That's the case even if that person is a professional PhD psychologist. So many people talk about science as if it's a particular field, or a profession, or a thing done by particular people, etc. This is wrong. Science is a method; a method to interrogate reality. It's about observation, prediction, testing, and quantifying. Unless you can lay out a rule or principle that you can then test and verify in a repeatable way, you're just doing guesswork. A better example is from economics. I've been watching the fed hike rates for the last few years to ease inflation, and I know why they're doing it. Quantity theory of money and all; inflation is too much money chasing not enough goods. Except... how do they know that's true? Sure, in theory it's ok. But what if it doesn't work that way, or there are other factors? I looked at data over the years, and the corellation between money supply and inflation is basically zero. Not only that, but the correlation between interest rates and money supply is basically zero! The whole thing is nonsense, yet because it's a good story the Fed continues to do it. I really don't understand why. These people can't all be idiots, can they? I really wonder.
Propositions and stance are good. The rest seemed to become a bit of a word salad. I dont follow the putin being *might is right" argument as thats exactly what hes accusing nato and the neoliberal world order of doing
Yes he does, because everyone does. But I don't have 41 extra minutes to hear him talk about it and he'll probably end up claiming he doesn't anyway.
It is a listen more than once video. But does contain a great wealth of ideas. Thank you!
Michael thank you! I think once is more than enough!!
I agree, and bookmarked for a later review, as well as reserved a folder for it in my topic philosophy folder. To me it was though provoking. And it made it easier for me to see myself as a conservative yet quite liberal socialist. Smile.
@@larsrons7937 I had a similar thought. It reminded me of something Yuval Noah Harari said in an interview i can't remember the date or topic of. Namely that conservatives seem to be retreating and that now liberals have to defend the institutions in their stead, which we (he included himself) were rather bad at. Zizek mentioned something similar as well, so this might be a bigger thing than expected.
I have been looking forward to this one! I ordered Jason Blakely's book on ideology recently, after attending a live discussion he did that you shared a while ago. I am slowly going to read it with a friend, but we're working on Nietzsche first.
Looking forward to your perspective!
I haven't read it yet for the same reasons! It's Ok to read it in tiny bits. I will have Jason on at some point. It's a lovely and important book in a somewhat embarrassing way. It says a lot that shouldn't need saying, but does need saying actually.
@@VladVexlerPhilosophyI think I know whay you mean, from the little that I've glanced over. I was very impressed by his communication off the cuff during the talk... he has a way of speaking very accessibly without sacrificing substance. Thanks for the intro and am glad to hear you'll have him on the channel!
Vlad, you are as always a pleasant surprise every day you post a video.
At the risk of incurring the wrath of the 50-cent army, have you ever considered making a video about the People's Republic of China or Xi?
Part of the 12% and grateful. Thank you, Vlad ❤
Same here, all the way through, and I will watch it again later. It wasn''surviving' it was envigorating. A breath of fresh air.
This lovely talk could've gone on for several hours. I am glad you were able to give us this much of yourself today.
Thank you for serving the 12%
Vlad, you're so wise. You constantly post things that make me stop and think. I strongly suspect this is due to your philosophical education. So why does philosophy so frequently sound foolish to me? I'm somewhat educated and pretty smart. Still sounds dumb to me...
Hi Vlad! I’m so glad you’re sharing philosophy with everyone.
I’m grateful to be able to!
You say your thought process doesnt really embody any left-wing tradition but your description of your views toward history at 39:30 to me sounds like Marx's idea of 'Historical Materialism' to me.
Thank you Vlad. Very useful distinctions.
And I like reading the comments too!
Thank you!!
Thank you! especially for the second part where you talk about your own ideology.
But one thing i did not understand: You said that you favor to think about the people who are worst of, but do not consider this a leftist stance. For me this is the _defining_ stance for leftism. You are a leftist if you want a better life for everybody (and act like it) and of course we start with the worst of. I always perceived you as a liberal leftist (with all the inevitable contradictions this combination brings).
Err- didn't Vlad say that it was a leftist stance but that he didn't get to that point through one of the leftist traditions?
I'm much too simple to have any insights to offer. But, I am glad there are souls as gifted as yourself to sort all this out! God Bless!
Vlad, I am curious about what, perhaps, "seemingly left-wing" positions you have arrived at through non left-wing reasoning. And also curious about the mechanism by which you arrived there.
"Our survival rate is 12%" [me, listening for the third time]
10:00 I remember the show debate of the Berlin Debating Union last fall was about whether the acts of protest by the Last Generation were helping the climate cause. apparently there had been a bias among the debaters before, for one side, however I don't know which direction that was. but I was in largely in support of the Last Generation going in. but in the debate the pro-LG team seemed to be focussed on personal responsibility, as if they didn't believe it could have a positive effect on influencing law-makers. in hindsight, I of course don't know if they were just lacking the awareness, that personal responsibility doesn't mean anything, compared to law changes and the things big fossil companies do. but in that debate, the audience was supposed to say before and after what perspective they were siding with and I answered pro-LG before, and undecided afterwards. because jfc, your objective just shouldn't be personal responsibility for climate activism.
Re. your example about Ricky in Siberia (just before 9 min. in), one American term for the mental process you describe is "chilling effects."
Can you point me toward a video of yours (if you have one) that defines 'truthfulness', by which I presume you are referring to 'objective and identifiable - ie, "intransigent"? - truths'? Or anything else, really, as this appears to be a fundamental issue today in which 'everyone has their own truth'.
Don’t have one but it will come. If you want a very full on intro, read Bernard Willams’ Truth and Truthfulness. Bernard is one of my main philosophical influences.
21:40 Why are you so judgemental? 😄
Enjoyed this lesson very much, thank you.
To one specific mention:
I grew up in a time period when "flat earth" was just a joke. Sure there was a realization that perhaps there existed someone who actually believed it, but the prevalence was negligible in teh same way that one might accuse someone of being a "witch" without being superstitious or serious in the slightest.
It feels to me that today, the presence of such belief is still likely negligible on the whole, but a strawman of "stupid people" needs to be created MUCH MORE for the sake of having a punching bag than for experiencing the humor that somehow somewhere this belief exists. I'm not sure which is says more about - those that exist with such a belief, or a society that NEEDS them to punch down upon for self gratification.
Before watching, I'm curious if you're familiar with/at all interested in Žižek's ideas on ideology?
Wonderful presentation, and an interesting new to me author to investigate. Thanks, Vlad.
16:40 thanks taking time to fill everything out 😂 can someone with more talent than me please make a poignant YTshort out of this?
I watched to the end but I don't think it's fair to say I'm in the 12% that survived
I'm in 12% :) But in honest I got there in two parts.
You could’ve just stopped at, “when an evolutionary psychologist.” It’s about as useful as necropsychology, psychoanalysis that hopes to explain the behavior of a corpse. It’s this absurd late 19th/ early 20th century anachronism born from a marriage of convenience between the two most fashionable ideas of the day. It is predicated on the sort of naive ambition that is only possible through profound ignorance. It expects adaptability of the human mind to operate on the same timescale as adaptability of evolutionary traits, ignoring it was adaptability on a radically timescale that made the human mind into the evolutionary trump card it, thus far, has proven to be. I’m not saying that nothing of value has ever come out of evolutionary psychology as a discipline, but pickings are mighty slim. And you’d be hard pressed to find a discovery attributed to evolutionary psychology which plain old psychology wouldn’t have told us.
Anyway, rant…disengaged.
When someone gets this excited about something, I get curious. What readings would you suggest to find out the rate of change in evolution vs the rate of change in evolutionary psychology? This way I can compare processes and expectations.
Hey Vlad, thank you for the video; it was a wealth of ideas! I would love to hear more about just about everything, but especially towards the last two minutes on truthfulness. In either case, take care! Looking forward to more of your videos.
We are a neurophysiological organism over and above which there is a psychology, sounds strikingly epiphenomenal. As such it would not be accepted by any psychological scientist or neuroscientist I know of. This is my field. As such it has been my experience for the past 50 years that various forms of dualism slip in to thinking.
I would say that neurophysiology has properties: structures; mechanisms of action; states of awareness; that are inseperable. For living organisms one property can not be removed and the other properties continue to exist. Living things with brains have these properties. Trying to find relationships between the properties doesn't make sense.
I think you should get Ricky on the channel
Do you share Žižek's conception of Ideology?
Honestly you and him are my two favorite political philosophers and you both deal with similar subjects. I'd kill for a conversation between you two.
Godamn I like being call unlovely
"...on the third hand"
Hehe.. such a funny phrase. Very indicative of how you're thinking on your feet. Please do not take this as an attack. I love your videos and the ways in which you express your thoughts.
Not at all! Thank you!!!! Yes I am struggling with my illness a bit in this video! So it’s more rambly and slow.
@@VladVexlerPhilosophy I wish you the best health possible. Know that you make us think, and think again. You help us to have different opinions in a more constructive way. Best wishes from Roskilde near Copenhagen.
Thank you, Vlad, for your analysis and insights. Very helpful unraveling. Take good care of yourself 🤗
You take care too!
When one talks about oneself in the third person and explains responsibility one has to be impressed.
That small sideways remark about the incommensurability of nature will stay with me. Thank you.
I'm not sure I understand why evolutionary psychology is prima fascie irrelevant/innapropriate for historical analysis. (Not that I'm particularly familiar with either.) Could you say more? Thanks for the brilliant video, as always
Because evolutionary theory determines that it does not determine much of what happens under culture. Our capacity to live under culture as deeply as we do is itself a remarkable evolutionary feature of humans.
@@VladVexlerPhilosophy Ah, I see. Thanks for the explanation Vlad!
After becoming familiar with ancient Sumer etc it seems incontrovertible that for example, language and politics caused changes so rapid within any single lifetime that it is arguable that cultural evolutionary changes outpaced intergenerational biological changes. If that seems arguable, the most simple example is the development of medicine, which we usually understand outpaces or reshapes natural evolution (not replaces it, but augments it by orders of magnitude).
Vlad touched on it himself with the role of education vs socialised misinformation in youth. Both social/cultural processes can overdetermine natural psychological development, and especially, it's teleology.
Thus, post-cartesian psychology would have to admit our own ability to evolve our consciousness or dominate nature and redefine the mind - or at least to socially alter collective consciousness on large trend scales. You actually get some pretty fun arguments from back in the day about this. Like Terence McKenna's food of the gods thesis - in which mushroom-taking rituals evolved humanity to a higher or more progressive consciousness lol.
Did I miss it? Or does Vlad have or have not an ideology that abhors invasion to take and hold territory by anybody: Russia, USA, NATO, China, ......? What is his most basic ideological issue with Putin's behavior toward Ukraine, for instance?
I think we’ve experience improvement in the “general” 12% survival rate☺️ your work/content on all your channels, are much appreciated. Thank you!
I think out of all public intellectuals I pay attention to, I share most vaues and thoughts with Vlad. So thanks Vlad for pumping my ego by letting me compare myself to you, I guess?
Anyways, from the notes on scientism I got some vibes. As a psychologist I've been chasing windmills in the form of unscientific bs since the start of my education. I can't stand it and my field is flooded with it. Most are somewhat familiar with Freud, Jung and perhaps Maté, but if you study psychology you shall find we also suffer in the shadows of "The bad breast", Meyers Briggs personality tests, ink blobs, hidden personality typing in therapy and various kinds of "analyses" based on made-up crap. At least the ev-psy dudes try to base their claims in some kind of plausible connection to evolutionary trends.
What I'm saying is, basing stuff on science might not be wise in all circumstances, but the alternatives are often even worse. I suppose we are mostly talking politics here, but still, I'd like to see more of an effort to base politics in some sort of scientific tradition. Here in Sweden, we do have more of that and I for one am grateful for it.
Hey Vlad: Why do you think it is particularly important to what degree our beliefs are a product of other actors? Especially when you were talking about Ricky from London who recycles because fossil fuel companies in the 80's influenced our culture into that direction:
Would you say it would be different if the reason Ricky focused so much on personal responsibility is because he happened to talk to a lot of people who value doing things themselves, and have a (from the my perspective') "irrational" disdain for relying on other people? In that case other people still influenced Ricky, but they didn't do it out of self-interest.
What if Ricky himself developed such a disdain on his own?
Of course, when fossil fuel company create the influence it feels much worse to me, but I don't really see a reason why I should actually treat those cases differently.
Anti-conservative, what does that even mean. Is conservatism by itself an ideology? Looking at european style conservatism i`d say to a greater extent no, but rather a way of doing politics, carefull, incremental, preserving the ability of the economy to generate income, preserving the fuctioning of public institutions, being fiscally responsible. In a sense rather anti-ideological. Id rather have a progressive conservative implementing certain social policies than having a socialist/ social-democrat do it. They have a greater record of failure and creating waste. This is surely idealised, but its how i see the general idea.
My name being Starr Crowgard proudly Social Social Scientist... But please tell me that what comes from your Public Intellectualnish so I can understand how sad it is to be a Social Secientist versus a Public Intellectual!?... I mean really, have @them
I have to admit that I listened to this on the side while working, so I sometimes mentally tuned out a bit, but from time to time you said such wise things that I instinctively tuned in again and thought to myself: You know what? He's right!
That being said, my new life goal is to make the expression "ideologically unlovely" part of my active vocabulary!
Apparently not clear but I am a social scientists... And two (II,2) you, apparently do not consider yourself as a social scientists?! ... A public intellectual if I understand correctly.
Does Vlad have an ideology about not being ideological?
The details of my profession would bore 78% of people to tears within 2 minutes. Not everyone wants to know the deepest truth about how their cuppa and scone make it to their table. While to some of us, it is an entrancing source of delight and future peregrinations.
Very survivable ! Much appreciated , helps me to sort my own thinking 🙏
Awesome! 🥰
I'm kind of sad I just now, 6 day later, youtube notified me of this video. At least it's something with meaty content that will take a couple or more watches to understand the gist of.
Ideology is not something a person "has", it is a space where the individual makes their ideas/beliefs about their environment in. It's like the air we breathe or for a fish the water the fish swims in.
You have nailed it.Only when it hits the fan...people and Governments demand change. So simple but so true
I am a bit late watching this, which for me is unusual. I thouroughly enjoyed this talk, both in the sense that i loved hearing you explore this evidently deep topic with us, but that thinking about it also gave me reasons to challenge things i previously left alone.
I do find your stances on certain things extremely surprising : O
I would certainly welcome a series of videos where each video is dedicated to a single points you've mentioned in the last part to elaborate further.
Currents of left Liberterianism? Skeptical Humanism?
I really want to engage with these videos but I think I might be a 13th percenter after all. I do watch all main channel and chat videos, though
if one implies post truth only applies to Trump and not Biden (or vice versa) during the debate how does one describe that?
I love your voice and your way of expressing your mind. Your voice calms my soul.
Jason Blakely from the states? Author of lost in ideology? That's a sensational match up
Thank you Vlad -this was very well explai ed and thoughtful.
I think we have the same kind of heart. No wonder I keep coming back. Hugs.
Vlad, you're a 21st century guy of the enlightenment.
So agree, appliying sciemtific method to issues outside science is appalling!
Ideology is a system of moral values, and concepts complementary to them. It is not much different from religion.
I would say religions contain ideologies, but religions are more than just ideologies.
Could you make a video about what you mean by truthfulness?
Better question is "should you have an ideology?", i tend not to, at least not in an overall sense
As if none of your other videos are self indulgent, you exude self indulgence
The only history that is conservative is mythology.
Did you mean to say 'Jason Blakely'?
TOP CLASS? Well you got my ear now..... I mean .... top class
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Ideology, said Louis Althusser, is when the answers precede the questions
Unless the questions were previously answered and the ideology inherited. As is often the case
What's an ideology?
Why is china bad in your view?
Thanks
This seems like a double of Vlad
Im just more interested in what he thinks about usung the yerm genocide to describe Israel's response in gaza.
Months ago he said it didn't seem appropriate to use the term.
Does he think it's still inappropriate?
I think it's inappropriate because it doesn't fit the definition. Would be interesting to know what vlad thinks.
@@toby9999 but it does. What makes you say it doesn't?
People who obsess about the climate crisis are generally those for whom everything else has gone philosophically "sour." It's all they have left to focus on.
I think it might be more a matter of becoming blinded by the glare of knowing that without a viable planet all else is moot. It's hard to care about a mutiny when the ship is sinking, even though mutinies normally are very, very important. But with a wider view one can see that if the mutiny keeps the crew and the officers from bailing, repairing the hull or stocking up the life boats, then you're sunk anyway, so negotiating a truce matters even though the water's up to your knees and rising.
@@DoloresJNurss There is virtually NO WAY planet Earth can "sink." The fact that you see it as having a "crew," is very telling, because I see all "mutiny," all the time. The only "crew," is history, however one chooses to view that record. Thanks for replying, I generally get mainly insults.
@@wesdowner5636 I am so sorry that you get mostly insults! I get a lot of that, too, on other sites, though usually Vlad calls people on it here.
Well, Earth will survive, one way or another, but there is no guarantee that it could continue to sustain human life, and in fact a serious risk that our choices could compromise our sustainability here. In fact, we have passed the point where we could prevent all consequences and now must concentrate on mitigation, doing what we can to make sure some human life survives. We are, right now, in the midst of one of the top five extinction waves in geologic history, and it will only take a couple degrees more of global warming to melt the frozen methane level beneath the ocean floor. The last time that happened was called the Permian Extinction--the big one, where, for a millennia, the most predominant life-form was fungus. So I guess the "ship" I refer to is not so much Earth as human viability on Earth.
When I spoke of "mutiny", I was trying to rephrase my thought into something more political. Usually, though, I think of it as an ongoing brawl, with the main players too drunk to even notice what's happening to the ship.
@@DoloresJNurss Well, our descendants will definitely have to evolve, because the climate will change, with or without human help, so our descendants may not necessarily be recognizable as "humans." It's not worth losing any sleep over.
@@wesdowner5636 The problem is that population readjustment to the new normal is already starting to get brutal. I would like to proactively do whatever I can to help as many as I can to survive and thrive. I can't just shrug and say, "Oh well, the ship is sinking, the sailors are going to have to turn into dolphins in a hurry. Not my problem." Sailors only turn into dolphins in myths. If I can I've got to help get the life rafts out and ready for those still sober enough to use them.
Central to the core of who I am is that love is the nature of God, love is the meaning of life, how best to love is the lesson to learn, and all else hinges on that. This is the filter through which I see the world, and the goal of my life, and the measure of my deeds, and my joy, and my grief, and my ultimate fulfillment. It's who I am--I can't choose otherwise without becoming someone other than myself.
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Please bring back the red background. I am likely to miss you otherwise.
This is a different channel!!!
@@VladVexlerPhilosophy given the topic I thought maybe you were looking a background with a more politically neutral colour.
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Among the twelve percent, Vlad ;-)
Lots of love to you.
Thank you so much!
Thank you Vlad for your wonderfully erudite and philosophically engaging discussion.
Much appreciated👏 💯🙏
I did not know that the scientific method should not be applied in the social sciences. Maybe they should rename that particular field of studies. Maybe call it social ponderings. 🤔