It might be a figure of speech and/or possible moblin cultural difference too. Like, we know from Breath of the Wild that moblins need to eat a lot to sustain their huge bodies so maybe "You're so cute that I would eat you!" wouldn't be weird or creepy at all.
Probably a hard time since these types of monsters have never been shown to read or write. Maybe he took long to write back to Maggie because he didn't know how to until he somewhat learned. Letter did sound broken in some ways to. But that's just my mini theory, he could've actually wanted to eat her lol.
Error actually makes a cameo appearance in Cadence of Hyrule if you manage to clip out of bounds using some items. He lives in an isolated house with a few bushes outside and sells you a pair of boots that allow you to move off-beat. And of course, he says his iconic "I AM ERROR" line
Auru always seemed like a weird character to me, because he's treated as a key character in a few points of the story, but almost nothing is revealed about him or how he knows these things. It really changes things to know he was supposed to be a royal tutor years ago, it's really interesting to see how many small but crucial details, especially with characters, people outside of Japan never knew.
@@DJWEEDPIZZA That's actually a good point. A lot of games have "their own version" of certain roles, like with Malon/Marin/Medley/Romani, and the "wise elder" has been Rauru in OOT and Geapora in SS. Auru is probably Twilight Princess' equivalent, which is even clearer now knowing his connection with the royal family.
@@Jess-I-Guess I wonder if the heroes shade always existed, because I could see Auru teaching us the various techniques and having a more expanded role in general that eventually got cut down once the shade was introduced.
I've always found that merchant in the Haunted Wasteland to be quite a weird fellow. You'd think that maybe he'd sell a whole bunch of supplies to desperate passerbys but instead he floats over a quicksand pit and sells nothing but bombchus.
Since his nose is so big and triangular, I sometimes wondered if he is Ganondorf in disguise, his secret twin brother, or maybe a ghost of a long dead Gerudo man (his halo could be hidden under his hair). Seeing as there probably aren't that many ways a random guy could've made their way into a region there only the territorial Gerudo women could access easily. Of course it's possible he's probably just a Hylian guy who's got a little something going on with someone among the Gerudo.
Odd that Auru being Zelda's tutor was somehow removed (mistranslated?) from the English version. It's feels like a very important detail that helps explain the character and why he is so knowledgeable to the royal family's secrets. I've also been reading the Twilight Princess manga recently, where not only does it mention Auru was Zelda's tutor, but there are actual scenes with Auru interacting with a young Zelda. I was thinking it might have been one of the authors' many original ideas until I saw that fact here!
I can understand translation mistakes like Bagu and Error because that's a minor detail that could have gotten lost in translation. But having the Twilight Princess translation completely ommit that HE tutored the princess seems like a huge change. What was the thought process behind that?
Because he didn't? I looked up rouhai 老輩 and it means elderly people. I haven't found anything about it meaning I. I don't know if he talks about himself with rouhai, but that wouldn't make much sense.
@@NuiYabuko Japanese people rarely says subjects like "I" or "me" or "you". Rouhai means the sages, it's a sentence about them serving the royal family. The last 2 lines are what matters to us. He says that while Zelda was a child, he was ordered to be in charge of educating her. We know he's talking about himself because of the orimashite おりまして, a polite word used when talking about your superiors and can only be used when talking about yourself or your relatives.
It's no different than how when the sonic unleashed manual was translated it left out a couple lines from the JP manual that literally state the werehog form was a piece of dark gaia's energy that attached itself to sonic and sonic's mind resisted the darkness. But I agree it's upsetting when important things get lost in translation.
Because the Zelda translation team has historically been completely out of control and do a lot of reinterpretations and personal adjustments to the games.
This bothered me so much because how tf could six noncorporeal beings tutor her? And if they did once have bodies, how did they lose them within Zelda's lifetime?
I think Joynas from Spirit Tracks is pretty weird. She runs the Take 'Em All On challenge in Castle Town and that raises so many questions. How does she get replicas of the bosses? Where did she get all the monsters? How did she get (make?) a Shadow Link? Where are the rooms you fight in? Because clearly they're not in the building you're in. You can only play the first level of the challenge after beating the first temple. Before that, she says you're not ready. Does that mean she knows Link is the hero? She looks like Jolene from Phantom Hourglass. Could she be a descendent of Jolene, just like how you meet Lineback's grandson? So many questions about this one really obscure character!
I think this will sound better: Auru: I was once Princess Zelda's tutor, and I told her of the legend of the ancient sages that guarded the arbiter's grounds and the accursed mirror.
I always find it funny when one of the Links gets in trouble for their shenanigans. I like to imagine that in whatever nebulous afterlife the Zelda world has they poke fun at these instances the other Links had
@@Deusaga His soul actually doesn't get reincarnated. This is a misconception/fan theory in the community. Demise only says in his curse that his hatred will reincarnate. Also there would be no Links in the Adult Timeline as his soul no longer exists there. In A Link Between Worlds it is heavily implied that the old man is a previous Link (specifically A Link to the Past one).
@@arcticdino1650 He also says that his curse will follow the blood of the Goddess and the spirit of the hero. Then it's up to determine what the spirit of the hero is; is it reincarnating or is it spawned anew in each game?
@@UltimateTobi Judging by the fact that he only uses incarnation in reference to his hatred, along with the implied Old Link, I guess "Spirit of the Hero" is a bit more metaphorical, like whoever has the courage to face evil. Or maybe the spirit of the hero is some weird force (or even the first Link's soul) that guides each link.
Auru being Zelda's tutor was not entirely lost to the English translation. The guide book mentions it, and I'm pretty sure Hyrule Historia does as well in either the Twilight Princess portion of the timeline or his concept art.
what I want to know is why they changed the dialogue on the last character. It wasn’t a mistake in translation they just omitted that he was employed by the royal family to tutor Zelda
When I got my Gameboy with Link's Awakening back in the day,I searched all over that game to try and figure out who the Bucket Mouse is. I headcanoned that he lived in Animal Village but his house was very tiny (cuz mouse).
I always found Fado in OoT to be a strange character. She only serves one purpose, but the vibes I get are just creepy. She seems a little too happy at the potential death of Grog and is the only Kokiri besides Saria and Mido to have a unique model.
There's also speculation that she was supposed to be the Wind Sage, in the early stages of development, before it was decided that we would get a Forest Temple, instead, and Saria was made the Sage of Forest. That would explain why she has a unique design, opposed to the other Kokiri girls.
Oh yeah, Sakon Also fun fact: you can kill him when he steals the bomb sack from the old lady with a projectile, according to a wiki i read, that makes some sidequests impossible to complete until you reset the cycle
@@diegoaguilar1954 Yes it's possible to kill him by shooting a arrow, but those sidequests in question are also impossible to complete if you just let him drop the Big Bomb Bag (because Kafei will only follow him when Sakon sells the Big Bomb Bag to Curiosity's Shop)
I don't know about strangeness, but when it comes to obscure Zelda characters, I don't think there's anyone more obscure than the wounded Hylian Soldier in Ocarina of Time that only appears in the back alley of castle town after Link obtains the Ocarina of Time and disappears after Link retrieves the Master Sword.
That was already explained to be an accidentially left asset from what hyrule castle town wouldve looked like when ganon attacked after he goes chasing after zelda but since it was too dark for children it was dropped and left only new text by some of the citizens that only see him chasing but it nevers proceeds through other texts during the child era not the adult one
@@Silver-Nao Okay... he's still an obscure character since the vast majority of players never see him. If the developers also completely missed him as well, then that just makes him more obscure in a sense.
There's a npc that tells you about the back alleys, which led me to know of their existence and explore back there. Later, since the dialogue of the people had changed after ganondorf attacked, I checked the back alleys to see if any of them said something different; almost everyone else did. Instead i found the guard and had the unfortunate pleasure of watching/reading his words until he died. I just can't believe he's that obscure for most people, when I felt compelled as a kid to go in the back alleys and see what else had changed and found him slumped against the wall. Turning left at the shooting gallery would've led you right to him.
Nintendo mistranslating some big stuff is so odd to me. Maybe in their distant past, but nowadays they have a whole translation wing called the Treehouse. From what I know, translation is done internally, so a game as recent as Twilight Princess inadvertently changing the whole backstory of a character is odd to me. Auru being Zelda’s past tutor is so important, ; his loyalty to the royal family is what’s driving him and he may even be personally concerned about the princess.
Maybe they chose to change the dialogue in hopes the player would link Auru to Rauru. The sages tought Zelda, Auru looks a lot like Rauru and has a near identical name, so he is most likely a descendant of the OoT sage Rauru. It could be that he is saying the same thing in a roundabout way.
An interesting thing to me is that if you read Auru's character description in the printed Prima Games strategy guide for the original GameCube version, it does say that he tutored Zelda when she was a child, but later retired from service for unknown reasons. Since the book also mentions other weird details, like exactly how old Oocoo Jr is, maybe the omission from Auru's dialogue isn't really a translation mistake, but a marketing trick to get people to buy the book in order to get more details about the game characters?
Apparently Treehouse (or whoever is responsible for translation at Nintendo Of America) is interpreting it on their own. However, for BOTW2, Nintendo proper has someone working with the translators for the English version this time around. So we can hope for (even more) accurate translations.
Dragon Ball translation is also like this, the translatiors aways try to fit their own headcanon into things, so I think americans like to take some liberties. It's super hard discuss lore with american Zelda and Dragon Ball fans because there's too much things added on their translations.
I like to think that Moe probably just ran away or escaped when Link broke into the fortress and and that's how he wrote the letter and he just later finds his way too Maggie and just kinda lives with her. Meanwhile Link kills his brotherend and he doesn't care. I just think it makes sense like if he's smart enough to write letters than he must have a lot of common sense, boy with sword breaks in then he's gonna be like "I'ght I'm head out" of there 😂
"Let's try and keep this list relatively obscure" 10 seconds later... "Beginning the list with one of the most infamous characters in adventures of Link..."
As a young teen playing Twilight Princess the first time, I found myself having a crush on Agitha, the girl infatuated with bugs/insects. She is so obscure and different I think that's why I had a crush on her. Who else had crushes on a game character?
I wouldn't say Agatha is obscure, she's definitely one of the more well known TP characters that aren't Midna. She was even playable in Hyrule Warriors. Now an obscure TP hottie is Hena, the fishing shop owner. Absolutely beautiful
For me, it's not even only about Auru. All members of the Resistance seemed weirdly interesting to me, also somewhat scary when I played it as a child. I would love to learn more about all of them but I'm thankful for this nice detail about Auru!
I understand that you stick to the games, but the biggest flex would be to fill the list with characters from the Zelda manga adaptions. Especially the non-Akira Himekawa ones. Like Roam, who is literally Revali like 20 years before Revali actually happened
That kid in the graveyard in Ocarina of Time. I would like to know what happen to him seven years later. I thought I was to encounter him as Adult Link my first place through, but that never happened.
One of my favourite obscure characters is Link the goron from Majora's mask, you never really get an explanation on whether he is named after a past hero or it's just a happy/sad coincidence(depending on whether you steal his room and leave him sleeping out in the rain or not).
Your videos never cease to entertain or amaze me. You might be one of the only youtubers I've seen who actually puts in an insane amount of research and work into a video. Keep up the great work man.👍
In the official Zelda manga, Auru outright states that he was Zelda's tutor/mentor. So this fun little secret hasn't been completely lost to translation after all
Error's dialogue is also a bit of a mistranslation as the Japanese dialogue says "My name is Error" which makes it much clearer that Error was his actual name.
Well Moe could actually love maggie. "I want to eat you up" is a very common saying and is used to reference how cute someone is, plus it seems the letter was in very broken Hylian meaning Moe knew just enough to convey that but not enough to fully translate.
Did you know that there is a reference to Error in Super Paper Mario? When Fracktail goes haywire, one of the phrases he will say is “I AM ERROR. PRESS ANY KEY TO RESTART.”
Maybe Auru is a references to Rauru from Ocarina, their name is almost the same, they wear a brown hood, his facial hair is pretty similar and he guides link on his adventure
im gonna go with the rabbit rescue man in spirit tracks because allot of what he says has a lot of creepy undertones especially when his wife is involved
One of the wierd ones I remember is a poet guy from the minish cap and also the frog band from link's awakening. Someone told me the frog singers might be connected to mario, but I can't get the reference, perhaps its before my time. Heck even kirby turns up in link's awakening as an enemy! He appears in the Eagle Dungeon with the tower.
The Resistance as a whole was severely underutilized. Sure, they "help" to point Link in the direction of the mirror shard dungeons, and they show up for all of like 10 seconds to look heroic before the player enters the main part of Hyrule Castle for the fight with Ganon. But it always felt like the characters got the short end of the stick. Like, it would have been cool had they maybe accompanied Link to the dungeon they're located near, even if they weren't actually involved with clearing it out. Or even having them show upon first reaching Hyrule Castle, and helping secure the area before Link goes to the throne room.
Magda (better known as Flowerblight Ganon) from BOTW is a strange character to me. She always stands next to her garden of flowers waiting for some unfortunate soul to step on them. She never waters or attempts to take care of the flowers, and doesn’t interact with any other character. She’s also the only NPC besides Yiga Clan members that can harm you.
My favorite Zelda chericter that I don't know much about, is probably gastolf the dead king in the minish cap. If you could research and tell more about t him it would be appreciated. But you don't have to^w^
When you were talking about Auru, I thought it was very interesting and it makes more sense. Because in the Twilight Princess manga, it shows that he was a royal tutor to Zelda when she was younger. I understand that mistranslations can happen by accident, but I feel like it happens way too often then it should. :/
That one dancing guy throughout Termina Field. Not Kamaro. The one from the Skulltula house. But he can only be seen through the telescope when you look over the field from the Observatory. When I was a kid I spent hours trying to catch him in the field at different times of each day.
Not really a strange/obscure character, but there is a random NPC I personally like. That's Holly, from Oracle of Season. Not much to say about her, but I wish we could see her back in a 3D Zelda, with a whole new holiday look, fitting for her name and relation to winter !
Two of my favorite obscure characters would have to be from BoTW, though I can't remember their names off the top of my head. The.woman who thinks she can cook but just ends up making smoke signals with some godawful stuff, and the woman who's got a sexual (or at least romantic) fascination with Sheikah machinery.
5:16 "A dear Friend but I can't recall his name." Because that's no oxymoron at all. 8:34 Another weird fact about Auru: He owns a bazooka. In a world on such a low tech level. How?
We need a new 2-D Zelda title. Not a remake, not an HD. A new title, new adventure, new Link.. Or, maybe, the Hero of Legend shows up for one last adventure as... an old man? Give us an old Link? Let us see a grizzled, veteran Link on one last adventure. A fully grown, grey hair, GOW:4 Kratos style Link. One who has wisened and become more dangerous due to their cunning and wisdom, rather than being a brash, full of bravado young man who's answer is to charge in and take names. Maybe give him a unique variant of the green tunic, matted with personal modifications to better fit his wilderness lifestyle? I hope I'm not alone in wanting to see an old Link, and who better than The Hero of Legend? Dudes been theough more than any other Link, it would only be fitting we see him as the Old Link we get to play as. At least, that's what I would love to see. A new 2-D Zelda title with The Hero of Legend, but as an old man on his last adventure.
I guess the names of Ruto and Mido in Ocarina of Time are references to the towns of the same name in Zelda II. That in and of itself is pretty cool to me.
@@Mari_Izu Huh, guess everyone's a reference then. Pretty cool that they made mostly every major character (at least most of the ones that aren't recurring in the franchise) have the name of a Zelda II town. At the very least now I can make a meme about how Zelda II has an Ocarina of Time reference (despite Zelda II obviously being first, which is the whole point of the meme)
I imagine that Moe confused the phrase "i wanna eat you for dinner" with the expression "i could eat you up", usually said when you find SOMTHING or SOMEONE cute, i vote that Moe truly cared/cares for Maggie and honestly, in Mario games we see minions of Bowser become Allies, namely paper Mario with those goombas and koopa troopas, or revolt against the evil forces to fight with the good guys, hy not have a moblin that wants the love of probably the only person that wasn't afraid of him?
I feel like Aurie Taamu might have been an easter egg reference to Link himself from Ocarina of Time. Might be a stretch on my part, but Aurie Taamu almost sounds like trying to hide Ocarina of Time, maybe with Ura (part of the Japanese title), trying to sound similar without being obvious and naming him "Ocarina Time". The books are very green, he's waiting to get his fairy (Link was the Boy Without A Fairy at the start), and even the carrots could be a reference to them being used as Epona's speed bursts. It could also be Tingle, with the unknown chef friend being The Hero of Time (officially named Link, sure, but we can choose his name, thus the lack of a name). But the name sounding like them wanting to refer to Ocarina of Time and hiding it makes me think Link instead.
One character I'd love to see in a future Zelda game is a bearded, bald, grizzled older Link from a past adventure telling his tales to patrons in the milk bar, knocking back pints of the white stuff.
We technically had in Twilight Princess Remember the Skeleton that teaches You/Link in that Vision/Astral Plane? It is confirmed that was Link from Ocarina of Time But an actual Old Link in flesh cannot be done How the F can Link meet his previous reincarnation/transmigration? In Twilight Princess it was possible because it where the Gods that made the 2 Links meet in that Spiritual World/Astral Plane The only way to be able to meet a Living Old Link would be (1)You don't play as Link (or at least you play as the Old Bearded Link Or (2)if there is some Temporal/Interdimensional Shenanigans going on Or another alternative would be (3)Like how Madara and Sasuke meet Madara died and Indra transmigrated into Sasuke but then He (Madara) resurrected and meet Sasuke Ps: this would be possible if Link was not a Reincarnation of the Hyrule Hero/Past Links but a Transmigration
3:41 I guess mouth is mistranslated from Japanese to English as mouse a lot, huh? In FF9, there’s an enemy who’s face is a pair of dentures, and is named…ragtime mouse.
Hey Zeltik I have a question. In the Zelda Twilight princess there are 4 golden spirits(I think that they called) First Lanayru that represent goddess Nayru, Second Eldin that represent goddess Din and Third Faron who represent goddess Farore. But there is one spirit left Ordona. Who is the fourth goddess? So you find something please explain this. In the Ocarina of Time there is nothing mention who is the Ordona please if you find something explain please. You think that TP Link have any connection between Link the hero of time or zelda Majora's mask? Is that any thing to connect to Fierce deity? You think Link and Ordona had connection between them?
8:05 It's so sad to hear about mistranslations. I'm pretty sure the german version had it correct because I knew he was Zeldas caretaker at one point in his life.
So I can assume the Mouth -> Mouse translation error came about is because the Japanese language doesn't have a "th" sound so it is usually replaced with an s sound so mouth would be mausu or マウス which is the same spelling if you spelled mouse in katakana.
I'm often interested in the Hyrulian Royal Family, despite how little they tend to feature on such games, apart from the princess, herself. Since we don't know anything about the King and Queen of Hyrule, in TP, like what happened to them, that Princess Zelda is in charge, meeting someone who is close with her, especially in the game that sort of put her off to the side, to flesh out Midna, is neat. It's not "how is Princess Zelda (LoZ) the reincarnation of Hylia if Princess Zelda (AoL) is still alive, oh, and now there's two of them active at once!", bur fun background of NPCs is something that I, as a D&D Dungeon Master love. It's weird that someone had copious money to spend on Skull Necklaces, and a desire to do so. It's a shame Link couldn't do that, considering how much a certain other referenced miscreant charges to translate charts, in the original release of Wind Waker. It's always nice to see references to the oldest games, where I started with Zelda, so thank you for that!
slightly off topic, but I would like to mention that dark beast ganon (you know, the pushover) was born out of ganon not letting go of reincarnation in the Japanese release of botw, not him giving up on it
"She'll do nothing but pine over her lost swine" what a masterpiece
Not a pig!
Ok, I guess that is debatable.
At least they weren't sheep,
or else she'd do nothing but-
*WHAK*
... Apologies I had to hit myself before finishing that awful joke.
I was hoping for a swine/Swain joke, personally
I wonder if Moe truly loved Maggie, and had a hard time properly communicating. Or if he just literally wanted to eat her.
It might be a figure of speech and/or possible moblin cultural difference too. Like, we know from Breath of the Wild that moblins need to eat a lot to sustain their huge bodies so maybe "You're so cute that I would eat you!" wouldn't be weird or creepy at all.
Maybe he was trying to say he wanted to have dinner with her idk.
Probably a hard time since these types of monsters have never been shown to read or write. Maybe he took long to write back to Maggie because he didn't know how to until he somewhat learned. Letter did sound broken in some ways to. But that's just my mini theory, he could've actually wanted to eat her lol.
Theory: Moblins eat skull necklaces, like dogs eat bones. He gave them to Maggie to fatten her up. He didn't realize that won't work with humans...
Everytime I see that zelda reference I can't help but laugh. Yes...my mind was in the gutter, but come on.
Error actually makes a cameo appearance in Cadence of Hyrule if you manage to clip out of bounds using some items. He lives in an isolated house with a few bushes outside and sells you a pair of boots that allow you to move off-beat. And of course, he says his iconic "I AM ERROR" line
and of course i am erorr is also a secret room in isacc
You are in error!
No really, you found Error.
Auru always seemed like a weird character to me, because he's treated as a key character in a few points of the story, but almost nothing is revealed about him or how he knows these things. It really changes things to know he was supposed to be a royal tutor years ago, it's really interesting to see how many small but crucial details, especially with characters, people outside of Japan never knew.
Yep I agree I’m just glad Nintendo is taking translation and story seriously for the BOTW sequel
And he's connected to the cannon guy at the lake too
I always suspected something was up because of how close his name is to Rauru
@@DJWEEDPIZZA That's actually a good point. A lot of games have "their own version" of certain roles, like with Malon/Marin/Medley/Romani, and the "wise elder" has been Rauru in OOT and Geapora in SS. Auru is probably Twilight Princess' equivalent, which is even clearer now knowing his connection with the royal family.
@@Jess-I-Guess I wonder if the heroes shade always existed, because I could see Auru teaching us the various techniques and having a more expanded role in general that eventually got cut down once the shade was introduced.
I've always found that merchant in the Haunted Wasteland to be quite a weird fellow. You'd think that maybe he'd sell a whole bunch of supplies to desperate passerbys but instead he floats over a quicksand pit and sells nothing but bombchus.
Since his nose is so big and triangular, I sometimes wondered if he is Ganondorf in disguise, his secret twin brother, or maybe a ghost of a long dead Gerudo man (his halo could be hidden under his hair).
Seeing as there probably aren't that many ways a random guy could've made their way into a region there only the territorial Gerudo women could access easily.
Of course it's possible he's probably just a Hylian guy who's got a little something going on with someone among the Gerudo.
I thought Mido was Ganondorf though
Odd that Auru being Zelda's tutor was somehow removed (mistranslated?) from the English version. It's feels like a very important detail that helps explain the character and why he is so knowledgeable to the royal family's secrets.
I've also been reading the Twilight Princess manga recently, where not only does it mention Auru was Zelda's tutor, but there are actual scenes with Auru interacting with a young Zelda. I was thinking it might have been one of the authors' many original ideas until I saw that fact here!
I can understand translation mistakes like Bagu and Error because that's a minor detail that could have gotten lost in translation. But having the Twilight Princess translation completely ommit that HE tutored the princess seems like a huge change. What was the thought process behind that?
Because he didn't? I looked up rouhai 老輩 and it means elderly people. I haven't found anything about it meaning I. I don't know if he talks about himself with rouhai, but that wouldn't make much sense.
@@NuiYabuko Japanese people rarely says subjects like "I" or "me" or "you". Rouhai means the sages, it's a sentence about them serving the royal family. The last 2 lines are what matters to us. He says that while Zelda was a child, he was ordered to be in charge of educating her. We know he's talking about himself because of the orimashite おりまして, a polite word used when talking about your superiors and can only be used when talking about yourself or your relatives.
It's no different than how when the sonic unleashed manual was translated it left out a couple lines from the JP manual that literally state the werehog form was a piece of dark gaia's energy that attached itself to sonic and sonic's mind resisted the darkness.
But I agree it's upsetting when important things get lost in translation.
Because the Zelda translation team has historically been completely out of control and do a lot of reinterpretations and personal adjustments to the games.
This bothered me so much because how tf could six noncorporeal beings tutor her? And if they did once have bodies, how did they lose them within Zelda's lifetime?
I think Joynas from Spirit Tracks is pretty weird. She runs the Take 'Em All On challenge in Castle Town and that raises so many questions.
How does she get replicas of the bosses? Where did she get all the monsters? How did she get (make?) a Shadow Link? Where are the rooms you fight in? Because clearly they're not in the building you're in. You can only play the first level of the challenge after beating the first temple. Before that, she says you're not ready. Does that mean she knows Link is the hero? She looks like Jolene from Phantom Hourglass. Could she be a descendent of Jolene, just like how you meet Lineback's grandson? So many questions about this one really obscure character!
Honestly, she is one of my favorite Minigame NPCs just from the implications of her magical abilities alone.
Jolene herself was quite a mystery, but Joynas is definitely just as intriguing.
Also, what's up with that Red Anouki shopkeeper?
I love how a lot of character names were present already in zelda 2.
Makes sense since most of the games were set before that one.
Yeah it's kind of interesting that it's one of the least popular among fans but is referenced in most of the games.
Only the name "Kasuto" from Zelda 2 remains unaccounted for. I wonder if it will pop up in future games.
I think this will sound better:
Auru: I was once Princess Zelda's tutor, and I told her of the legend of the ancient sages that guarded the arbiter's grounds and the accursed mirror.
It's such a shame that so many interesting mysteries get lost in translation, especially in Breath of the Wild.
Yeah, not having the notes written in first person by Link in the logs is odd choice of translation.
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I always find it funny when one of the Links gets in trouble for their shenanigans. I like to imagine that in whatever nebulous afterlife the Zelda world has they poke fun at these instances the other Links had
I don't think there's an 'afterlife' per say, at least for link. His soul keeps getting reincarnated after all.
@@Deusaga His soul actually doesn't get reincarnated. This is a misconception/fan theory in the community. Demise only says in his curse that his hatred will reincarnate. Also there would be no Links in the Adult Timeline as his soul no longer exists there. In A Link Between Worlds it is heavily implied that the old man is a previous Link (specifically A Link to the Past one).
"Isn't that right, THIEF???"
@@arcticdino1650 He also says that his curse will follow the blood of the Goddess and the spirit of the hero. Then it's up to determine what the spirit of the hero is; is it reincarnating or is it spawned anew in each game?
@@UltimateTobi Judging by the fact that he only uses incarnation in reference to his hatred, along with the implied Old Link, I guess "Spirit of the Hero" is a bit more metaphorical, like whoever has the courage to face evil.
Or maybe the spirit of the hero is some weird force (or even the first Link's soul) that guides each link.
Auru being Zelda's tutor was not entirely lost to the English translation. The guide book mentions it, and I'm pretty sure Hyrule Historia does as well in either the Twilight Princess portion of the timeline or his concept art.
what I want to know is why they changed the dialogue on the last character. It wasn’t a mistake in translation they just omitted that he was employed by the royal family to tutor Zelda
Wow, I don't remember Moe the Moblin at all! Good stuff, very interesting, and I liked how you drew from all eras of the series. Great vid!
When I got my Gameboy with Link's Awakening back in the day,I searched all over that game to try and figure out who the Bucket Mouse is. I headcanoned that he lived in Animal Village but his house was very tiny (cuz mouse).
Same here! It drove me up the wall back in the day.
I always found Fado in OoT to be a strange character. She only serves one purpose, but the vibes I get are just creepy. She seems a little too happy at the potential death of Grog and is the only Kokiri besides Saria and Mido to have a unique model.
Yeah she's great lol
There's also speculation that she was supposed to be the Wind Sage, in the early stages of development, before it was decided that we would get a Forest Temple, instead, and Saria was made the Sage of Forest.
That would explain why she has a unique design, opposed to the other Kokiri girls.
@@ShadowSora8491 yeah I remember hearing about that
Maybe she just like Stalfos lol
@@Mari_Izu why do i get the feeling she watched that guy turn
7:00 Moe is also referenced in The Minish Cap. One of the books you have to return to Castle Town's library is called, "Married to the Moblin."
I think that the robber from Majora’s Mask would be an interesting one to cover
Oh yeah, Sakon
Also fun fact: you can kill him when he steals the bomb sack from the old lady with a projectile, according to a wiki i read, that makes some sidequests impossible to complete until you reset the cycle
@@diegoaguilar1954 Yes it's possible to kill him by shooting a arrow, but those sidequests in question are also impossible to complete if you just let him drop the Big Bomb Bag (because Kafei will only follow him when Sakon sells the Big Bomb Bag to Curiosity's Shop)
I don't know about strangeness, but when it comes to obscure Zelda characters, I don't think there's anyone more obscure than the wounded Hylian Soldier in Ocarina of Time that only appears in the back alley of castle town after Link obtains the Ocarina of Time and disappears after Link retrieves the Master Sword.
That was already explained to be an accidentially left asset from what hyrule castle town wouldve looked like when ganon attacked after he goes chasing after zelda but since it was too dark for children it was dropped and left only new text by some of the citizens that only see him chasing but it nevers proceeds through other texts during the child era not the adult one
@@Silver-Nao Okay... he's still an obscure character since the vast majority of players never see him. If the developers also completely missed him as well, then that just makes him more obscure in a sense.
Look up Chris Houlihan's room. Legit one of the most obscure characters.
@@finn5536 except he's a real person and therefore not obscure.
There's a npc that tells you about the back alleys, which led me to know of their existence and explore back there. Later, since the dialogue of the people had changed after ganondorf attacked, I checked the back alleys to see if any of them said something different; almost everyone else did. Instead i found the guard and had the unfortunate pleasure of watching/reading his words until he died. I just can't believe he's that obscure for most people, when I felt compelled as a kid to go in the back alleys and see what else had changed and found him slumped against the wall. Turning left at the shooting gallery would've led you right to him.
Nintendo mistranslating some big stuff is so odd to me. Maybe in their distant past, but nowadays they have a whole translation wing called the Treehouse. From what I know, translation is done internally, so a game as recent as Twilight Princess inadvertently changing the whole backstory of a character is odd to me.
Auru being Zelda’s past tutor is so important, ; his loyalty to the royal family is what’s driving him and he may even be personally concerned about the princess.
Maybe they chose to change the dialogue in hopes the player would link Auru to Rauru. The sages tought Zelda, Auru looks a lot like Rauru and has a near identical name, so he is most likely a descendant of the OoT sage Rauru. It could be that he is saying the same thing in a roundabout way.
@@Deusaga totally a possibility, but what a huge roundabout way to go at it 😂
An interesting thing to me is that if you read Auru's character description in the printed Prima Games strategy guide for the original GameCube version, it does say that he tutored Zelda when she was a child, but later retired from service for unknown reasons.
Since the book also mentions other weird details, like exactly how old Oocoo Jr is, maybe the omission from Auru's dialogue isn't really a translation mistake, but a marketing trick to get people to buy the book in order to get more details about the game characters?
Apparently Treehouse (or whoever is responsible for translation at Nintendo Of America) is interpreting it on their own.
However, for BOTW2, Nintendo proper has someone working with the translators for the English version this time around. So we can hope for (even more) accurate translations.
Dragon Ball translation is also like this, the translatiors aways try to fit their own headcanon into things, so I think americans like to take some liberties.
It's super hard discuss lore with american Zelda and Dragon Ball fans because there's too much things added on their translations.
I like to think that Moe probably just ran away or escaped when Link broke into the fortress and and that's how he wrote the letter and he just later finds his way too Maggie and just kinda lives with her. Meanwhile Link kills his brotherend and he doesn't care. I just think it makes sense like if he's smart enough to write letters than he must have a lot of common sense, boy with sword breaks in then he's gonna be like "I'ght I'm head out" of there 😂
"Let's try and keep this list relatively obscure"
10 seconds later...
"Beginning the list with one of the most infamous characters in adventures of Link..."
As a young teen playing Twilight Princess the first time, I found myself having a crush on Agitha, the girl infatuated with bugs/insects. She is so obscure and different I think that's why I had a crush on her.
Who else had crushes on a game character?
From pictures I've stumbled upon, it seems Imp Midna's the favorite. My preference is one of the Gerudo, though, although I do like Agitha as well.
Aplenty of crushes on female game chars and female anime chars.
I wouldn't say Agatha is obscure, she's definitely one of the more well known TP characters that aren't Midna. She was even playable in Hyrule Warriors. Now an obscure TP hottie is Hena, the fishing shop owner. Absolutely beautiful
@@MagillanicaLouM Agreed.
@@GabePuratekuta I have also "stumbled across pictures of imp midna" 😂
Is Auru supposed to be Rauru? They're literally only one letter removed in name
They also do look rather similar in the face, now that you mention it...
Also, tutored by sages... Rauru is one.
For me, it's not even only about Auru. All members of the Resistance seemed weirdly interesting to me, also somewhat scary when I played it as a child. I would love to learn more about all of them but I'm thankful for this nice detail about Auru!
If Ulrira is a shy guy in person.. how come he looks like a old man rather than a red robed being with a three hole face mask 🧐
*Gasp* Could that be what a Shy Guy looks like under the mask!?
loving the videos, hope you start posting more often
I understand that you stick to the games, but the biggest flex would be to fill the list with characters from the Zelda manga adaptions. Especially the non-Akira Himekawa ones. Like Roam, who is literally Revali like 20 years before Revali actually happened
I mean the king's name is rhoam in botw. Could've been a reference.
That kid in the graveyard in Ocarina of Time. I would like to know what happen to him seven years later. I thought I was to encounter him as Adult Link my first place through, but that never happened.
Maybe he became a gravedigger and he himself buried Dampé.
@@Mari_Izu Maybe but I would like to know.
@@Sakabatou77 Me too!
One of my favourite obscure characters is Link the goron from Majora's mask, you never really get an explanation on whether he is named after a past hero or it's just a happy/sad coincidence(depending on whether you steal his room and leave him sleeping out in the rain or not).
Out of universe its because Darunia names his son after you in Oot, the mm goron is another counterpart character.
Your videos never cease to entertain or amaze me. You might be one of the only youtubers I've seen who actually puts in an insane amount of research and work into a video. Keep up the great work man.👍
What I love about this channel is that I'm always learning new things about the Zelda series. These fun little details give me life! Thanks, Zeltik.
In the official Zelda manga, Auru outright states that he was Zelda's tutor/mentor. So this fun little secret hasn't been completely lost to translation after all
Error's dialogue is also a bit of a mistranslation as the Japanese dialogue says "My name is Error" which makes it much clearer that Error was his actual name.
Omg I thought I had imagined the whole Madonna thing as a kid, but I’m relieved to see that wasn’t just my imagination!
Well Moe could actually love maggie. "I want to eat you up" is a very common saying and is used to reference how cute someone is, plus it seems the letter was in very broken Hylian meaning Moe knew just enough to convey that but not enough to fully translate.
How the heck have I been playing Zelda games for 30+ years, but I didn't know that "I AM ERROR." is not an actual error? :O
The "Error" was inside us all along!
I always figured it was just an Engrish-ization of the name Errol. The more you know!
Because people choose to hate Zelda 2 because as internet keep saying it's bad instead of actually playing it.
@@Mari_Izu Sad, isn't it. Hating something without even attempting to learn why...
Did you know that there is a reference to Error in Super Paper Mario?
When Fracktail goes haywire, one of the phrases he will say is “I AM ERROR. PRESS ANY KEY TO RESTART.”
Maybe Auru is a references to Rauru from Ocarina, their name is almost the same, they wear a brown hood, his facial hair is pretty similar and he guides link on his adventure
im gonna go with the rabbit rescue man in spirit tracks because allot of what he says has a lot of creepy undertones especially when his wife is involved
As a fun mention, Auru was Zelda’s Tutor in the Twilight Princess Manga.
While the Manga is its own thing, it’s still worth pointing out.
Let’s goooo my even show lol keep up the good work man you make us Zelda fans feel great watching your Theories and stuff
It was a cool video, Zelda has so many weird obscure characters, I think there's material for more videos on this
this is surely one of the most underrated channels, really love and appreciate ur work man, keep it forward!
Japas from the indigo-go's isn't the most obscure guy, but definitely an under appreciated zora for sure.
Was that the bass player? Love that guy.
One of the wierd ones I remember is a poet guy from the minish cap and also the frog band from link's awakening. Someone told me the frog singers might be connected to mario, but I can't get the reference, perhaps its before my time. Heck even kirby turns up in link's awakening as an enemy! He appears in the Eagle Dungeon with the tower.
There's also that guy in ALTTP with a sign next to him that says to leave him alone or something
The one that won't speak but will follow you if you destroy the sign
03:29 at time of release of this video, it's that actual man's birthday :) Congratulations to Kazuaki Morita.
The Resistance as a whole was severely underutilized. Sure, they "help" to point Link in the direction of the mirror shard dungeons, and they show up for all of like 10 seconds to look heroic before the player enters the main part of Hyrule Castle for the fight with Ganon. But it always felt like the characters got the short end of the stick. Like, it would have been cool had they maybe accompanied Link to the dungeon they're located near, even if they weren't actually involved with clearing it out. Or even having them show upon first reaching Hyrule Castle, and helping secure the area before Link goes to the throne room.
Magda (better known as Flowerblight Ganon) from BOTW is a strange character to me. She always stands next to her garden of flowers waiting for some unfortunate soul to step on them. She never waters or attempts to take care of the flowers, and doesn’t interact with any other character. She’s also the only NPC besides Yiga Clan members that can harm you.
My favorite Zelda chericter that I don't know much about, is probably gastolf the dead king in the minish cap.
If you could research and tell more about t him it would be appreciated.
But you don't have to^w^
MC ghosts are cool characters
When you were talking about Auru, I thought it was very interesting and it makes more sense. Because in the Twilight Princess manga, it shows that he was a royal tutor to Zelda when she was younger.
I understand that mistranslations can happen by accident, but I feel like it happens way too often then it should. :/
Fun fact from a Software QA: translation errors are also submitted as bugs so "Bagu"'s name really is a... Bug.
That one dancing guy throughout Termina Field. Not Kamaro. The one from the Skulltula house. But he can only be seen through the telescope when you look over the field from the Observatory. When I was a kid I spent hours trying to catch him in the field at different times of each day.
I think it's a tip so you know you can climb there.
Not really a strange/obscure character, but there is a random NPC I personally like. That's Holly, from Oracle of Season. Not much to say about her, but I wish we could see her back in a 3D Zelda, with a whole new holiday look, fitting for her name and relation to winter !
Thank you so much for all the hard work you put into this! It’s really brilliant work and makes me love this game even more
I don't know if Malo will be on this list, but he's legit my favorite video game character of all time.
Do you also imagine him with a demonic voice?
@@GabePuratekuta More of a dry, sarcastic voice. Lol
@@andyq524 Demonic is funnier. Just ask the channel BraggAboutIt.
I need to know more about Don Gero
Two of my favorite obscure characters would have to be from BoTW, though I can't remember their names off the top of my head. The.woman who thinks she can cook but just ends up making smoke signals with some godawful stuff, and the woman who's got a sexual (or at least romantic) fascination with Sheikah machinery.
Moza and Loone are their names!
@@Mari_Izu Tyvm. :)
5:16 "A dear Friend but I can't recall his name." Because that's no oxymoron at all.
8:34 Another weird fact about Auru: He owns a bazooka. In a world on such a low tech level. How?
Ocarina of Time has a Jukebox and laser turrets, technology isn't meant to make sense in the series.
We need a new 2-D Zelda title. Not a remake, not an HD. A new title, new adventure, new Link..
Or, maybe, the Hero of Legend shows up for one last adventure as... an old man? Give us an old Link? Let us see a grizzled, veteran Link on one last adventure. A fully grown, grey hair, GOW:4 Kratos style Link. One who has wisened and become more dangerous due to their cunning and wisdom, rather than being a brash, full of bravado young man who's answer is to charge in and take names. Maybe give him a unique variant of the green tunic, matted with personal modifications to better fit his wilderness lifestyle? I hope I'm not alone in wanting to see an old Link, and who better than The Hero of Legend? Dudes been theough more than any other Link, it would only be fitting we see him as the Old Link we get to play as.
At least, that's what I would love to see. A new 2-D Zelda title with The Hero of Legend, but as an old man on his last adventure.
I completely forgot about Maggie and Mo, oh my gosh!!
Thanks for this. NMB MonstarMaze and HyruleGamer made videos in the last few days and I was waiting for this.
Love all your videos
When using Ulrira's phone in German will be a pizza order for Mario's restaurant! ;-)
Which is weird since it's Wario that's German.
@@GabePuratekuta Well, in German all characters speak German... ^_^
"Look,Tomar, it's you."
In the german translation of Twilight Princess, Auru also tells Link that he was responsible for raising Princess Zelda.
Thanks for your content zeltik, much love as always
Chris Pratt will voice I Am Error in the Zelda animated film
I wish I knew that before I destroyed every moblin in the forsaken fortress.
Makes you wonder if Moe could be spared in order to alter the plotline with Maggie
"I like you so much that I want to eat you for dinner."
Literally or metaphorically, that's not a great sentence.
I guess the names of Ruto and Mido in Ocarina of Time are references to the towns of the same name in Zelda II. That in and of itself is pretty cool to me.
Rauru, Ruto, Mido, Darunia, Saria and Nabooru are all named after towns in Zelda 2.
@@Mari_Izu Huh, guess everyone's a reference then. Pretty cool that they made mostly every major character (at least most of the ones that aren't recurring in the franchise) have the name of a Zelda II town. At the very least now I can make a meme about how Zelda II has an Ocarina of Time reference (despite Zelda II obviously being first, which is the whole point of the meme)
@@mickkelley3776 Chronologically though, OoT comes before, so perhaps in the lore they're named after the characters
I imagine that Moe confused the phrase "i wanna eat you for dinner" with the expression "i could eat you up", usually said when you find SOMTHING or SOMEONE cute, i vote that Moe truly cared/cares for Maggie and honestly, in Mario games we see minions of Bowser become Allies, namely paper Mario with those goombas and koopa troopas, or revolt against the evil forces to fight with the good guys, hy not have a moblin that wants the love of probably the only person that wasn't afraid of him?
I feel like Aurie Taamu might have been an easter egg reference to Link himself from Ocarina of Time. Might be a stretch on my part, but Aurie Taamu almost sounds like trying to hide Ocarina of Time, maybe with Ura (part of the Japanese title), trying to sound similar without being obvious and naming him "Ocarina Time". The books are very green, he's waiting to get his fairy (Link was the Boy Without A Fairy at the start), and even the carrots could be a reference to them being used as Epona's speed bursts.
It could also be Tingle, with the unknown chef friend being The Hero of Time (officially named Link, sure, but we can choose his name, thus the lack of a name). But the name sounding like them wanting to refer to Ocarina of Time and hiding it makes me think Link instead.
One character I'd love to see in a future Zelda game is a bearded, bald, grizzled older Link from a past adventure telling his tales to patrons in the milk bar, knocking back pints of the white stuff.
We technically had in Twilight Princess
Remember the Skeleton that teaches You/Link in that Vision/Astral Plane?
It is confirmed that was Link from Ocarina of Time
But an actual Old Link in flesh cannot be done
How the F can Link meet his previous reincarnation/transmigration?
In Twilight Princess it was possible because it where the Gods that made the 2 Links meet in that Spiritual World/Astral Plane
The only way to be able to meet a Living Old Link would be
(1)You don't play as Link (or at least you play as the Old Bearded Link
Or
(2)if there is some Temporal/Interdimensional Shenanigans going on
Or another alternative would be
(3)Like how Madara and Sasuke meet
Madara died and Indra transmigrated into Sasuke but then He (Madara) resurrected and meet Sasuke
Ps: this would be possible if Link was not a Reincarnation of the Hyrule Hero/Past Links but a Transmigration
3:41 I guess mouth is mistranslated from Japanese to English as mouse a lot, huh? In FF9, there’s an enemy who’s face is a pair of dentures, and is named…ragtime mouse.
I’m glad Bucket Mouse is getting some love. That one always confused me as a kid.
3:49 - 4:03 She made the fourth-best video of 1986, the second-best video of 1989, the third-best video of 1991 and the best video of 1998.
Hey Zeltik I have a question.
In the Zelda Twilight princess there are 4 golden spirits(I think that they called) First Lanayru that represent goddess Nayru, Second Eldin that represent goddess Din and Third Faron who represent goddess Farore. But there is one spirit left Ordona. Who is the fourth goddess? So you find something please explain this. In the Ocarina of Time there is nothing mention who is the Ordona please if you find something explain please.
You think that TP Link have any connection between Link the hero of time or zelda Majora's mask?
Is that any thing to connect to Fierce deity?
You think Link and Ordona had connection between them?
Zeltik your voice is so calming
8:05 It's so sad to hear about mistranslations. I'm pretty sure the german version had it correct because I knew he was Zeldas caretaker at one point in his life.
Geez, I was just a kid when I fell in love with the Zelda series. Now I'm almost as old as Tingle and I still don't have a fairy either...
2:37 this was really mind blowing XD
The little Bot in AoL that’s just waiting for his master to return home. You can pester him
Until he tells you to buzz off.
The great music game
lol I never played zelda 2 long enough to know error was actually a meaningful npc, I just thought it was a weird joke
I like that guy who taught me the word "vittles" in Link's Awakening
Funnily enough, Auru is seen in a flashback in the Twilight Princess manga where he is shown to be tutoring a young Zelda.
So I can assume the Mouth -> Mouse translation error came about is because the Japanese language doesn't have a "th" sound so it is usually replaced with an s sound so mouth would be mausu or マウス which is the same spelling if you spelled mouse in katakana.
Furthermore, the ス sounds exactly in between "s" and "th"
Favorite Obscure Zelda Character? Has anyone said the Sign-making Subrosian from Oracle of Seasons yet?
This video was just as feel-good as the movie was
Movie??
6:38 who are you calling a swine???
Hey, a Moblin! Time to get another Skull Necklace! **STAB**
I'm often interested in the Hyrulian Royal Family, despite how little they tend to feature on such games, apart from the princess, herself. Since we don't know anything about the King and Queen of Hyrule, in TP, like what happened to them, that Princess Zelda is in charge, meeting someone who is close with her, especially in the game that sort of put her off to the side, to flesh out Midna, is neat. It's not "how is Princess Zelda (LoZ) the reincarnation of Hylia if Princess Zelda (AoL) is still alive, oh, and now there's two of them active at once!", bur fun background of NPCs is something that I, as a D&D Dungeon Master love.
It's weird that someone had copious money to spend on Skull Necklaces, and a desire to do so. It's a shame Link couldn't do that, considering how much a certain other referenced miscreant charges to translate charts, in the original release of Wind Waker.
It's always nice to see references to the oldest games, where I started with Zelda, so thank you for that!
"I love you so much I want to eat you for dinner." I know those confused feelings too, Moe, just be glad you met a girl who understands...
What about the seers from a few of the islands in wind Waker? Their names are given on a couple of plaques that have hints as to how
I love Maggie from windwaker glad to see this
Not super relevant, but has anyone else ever noticed how little Zelda 1&2 come up in lore discussions?
Because there's not much to discuss about them.
@@Mari_Izu
I get that, but it’s still weird.
Their lore is critically underused, for example the fact Ganon can be resurrected if the hero's blood is spilled onto his ashes.
slightly off topic, but I would like to mention that dark beast ganon (you know, the pushover) was born out of ganon not letting go of reincarnation in the Japanese release of botw, not him giving up on it
The Madonna fact really got me 😂