@@don_dondg how could anyone question someone’s character who was out of bounds and tried to dodge a roller that bounced up and hit him. He probably could’ve moved in a better way but it was an obvious mistake and to question his character is just insane.
Tell Paul the vast vast majority of disc golfers appreciate him and all the volunteers helping out. Mistakes and accidents occur and also thank god for people like GG for saying it was an honest mistake and to leave the spotter alone. Appreciate you doing this quick interview Scott and thanks again to all the volunteers that make the DGPT possible. Cheers
@@chadmyers8685 It was John Wooden who said (and I’m paraphrasing here) “character is who you are when nobody is watching”. I feel it should be updated to “character is who you are when you’re online”. Too often I’ve met people who are super cool and nice in person and absolutely cruel jagoffs online. There’s something about the internet that gives people license to let the ugliest version of themselves out.
Appreciate you spotting. I have volunteered spotting myself. The key word is volunteer and this was just an unfortunate incident. Thanks again for volunteering.
I’ve been a spotter for years and totally felt for this gentleman. I’ve had a Ricky Wysocki roller zip past me with a sound I can’t even describe. Those things are coming in fast and as a spotter, you are trying to help the card determine the OB mark as quickly and fairly as you can. I hope he keeps volunteering and spotting. It’s a great way to watch and be a part of this great sport!
The only things I know about Paul's character: 1. He drove 1000 miles to volunteer for 4 days. 2. He feels bad about making an honest mistake. Sounds like a good guy to me.
Well said Scott. Thanks Paul for volunteering and showing up for the sport! We, of course, need more people like you to hold up the sport and provide support and service to the tournament and community. Thank you Scott for standing up for Paul and his character! I agree with you take Scott on this video and your previous one that spotters, umpires, or referees and the decisions/consequences are part of the game. Having them is better for the sport, not worse.
I felt so bad for Paul when watching it on Jomez, because his reaction made it clear how he felt as it happened. Then I read all the negative comments, of all those smart people knowing exactly what he should have done, how easy it would have been to get out the way and even what his intentions were and so on. This made me feel bad for the whole sport, though ofc I should know better than to judge anything by reading online comments. Thanks so much Scott for this video! All the best to you and Paul, and everyone else! Now let us all enjoy throwing discs again.❤
THANK YOU SCOTT!! Finally a voice of reason. Thank you Paul for volunteering, we have all made mistakes but almost none of us have had it happen so publicly. Thank you for sharing your side of the story.
Thanks Paul for volunteering and don’t worry about what the keyboard trolls out there are saying. Real disc golfers know what’s up. Thank you Scott and Double G for being the best possible ambassadors for the sport!
We throw plastic circles in the park, and we don't need to pretend it's any more serious than it sounds. Thanks for Paul for volunteering, and for Scott for bringing level-headedness to this silly, silly case.
WHAT A CHAMPION. Thank you for loving disc golf and volunteering your time, Paul. That coulda been any of us out there. Hope to see you out there spotting again. :)
I made the post on Reddit of the clipped jomez video. The commentator on live DGN said the spotter was trying to line it between his legs. I saw the video from the view of your angle. I am deeply sorry for blaming you of intentionally trying to be “cool.” Thank you for sacrificing your weekend and ability to watch the other holes of the event to make the tournament a better event!
I have been a spotter so many times and it is so easy to think your clear but that disc comes in hot and has different reactions. I have almost been hit a bunch and im actually not in the way. Thanks to all volunteers in the sport.
Thanks Scott, I have been spotting at the BHMO since the beginning. Spotters seldom get thanks.I counted the number of players that thanked me for spotting last year at Idlewild. I do not need Thanks, but I was curious. It was about a handful, far less than the BHMO. I can thank Brent for that, he always asked players to thank the spotters.
I spotted at European Open. The majority of players of the US thanked me. Probably every card thanked me. It was my first time spotting and I did not really know how to react but I feel thankful when players thank me. The task is fulfilling enough to do the job with big smile on my face. At the same time I get to see every top player around the world throw accurate bombs past me. The kindness from players is a cherry on top!
@@teemuojaniitty9864 It very much depend on the event. I think the European events are looked at differently than events here in the US, they seem more professional over there. Maybe because disc golf started here in the states spotters are just expected, or maybe the professionals at DGPT events here in the states just think spotters should be thankful that they are on the same course as them. When Brent started using spotters at the 1991 Columbus Open (BHMO now) it was a new idea. We thought what do we need spotters for?
Explaining why he was so close to the OB line and how he got into that predicament really makes a lot of since. I never thought about as a spotter making sure you have a visual of where it went out originally in case it didn't stay in. Glad he came on to clear things up. Seems like a good dude!
Paul is a legend for driving 1000 miles to volunteer. And Scott is the best for bringing this perspective. We need more people like that and less Reddit trolls.
My gut reaction when I saw this happen was 'oh come on, you know it's coming at you and you know how backhand rollers shape up, AND it was clearly gonna end up safe in bounds.' Then I stopped to think about the fact that the spotter is trying to look at the OB line, as the disc had previously crossed OB and was still not back in bounds. I also felt like, "how many shots do I watch COMING AT ME vs. away from me? How hard would that actually have been to judge it from HIS perspective?" Have you ever had a groundball come at you in the infield and suddenly it jumps up and hits ya in the chest? Yea... It's easy to judge watching a video but I don't think this is anyone's "fault." People still get hit by balls at PGA golf events. It doesn't mean drastic change is required. It's just unfortunate that this stuff does happen sometimes.
Nice video Scott, and thanks for providing a ‘course correction’ nudge. Thanks to Paul for investing so much into volunteering for the sport and it’s community. Good people giving freely is a critical component of our sport being able to provide us the experiences of seeing high level pro performances around the world - or even just a friendly competition at our local C-tier event. Thanks!
Scott we are living in a different time than when “we” grew up. These people nowadays have snap judgment on EVERYTHING. They don’t research or take the time to understand facts. It’s all about “ I’m going to be the first person to comment and I’m right “ or “ I KNOW why it’s happening “… I seriously wished there was no social media. It’s made people so arrogant and narcissistic. I wish this “Spotter” the best. Please don’t let this one incident bother you. Although it’s hard now getting shots across the bow from everyone. God Bless you Sir.
Thanks for volunteering to be a spotter and I hope you won't stop volunteering because of a simple mistake. I make mistakes every day all day long. Thanks Scott
Scott, you're the GOAT for this. Thanks for being an advocate for this man, and for allowing him to show the world that he doesn't deserve the ire he's received!
Thank you, Scott, for your first video and for this video. The videos online showing Paul "blocking the roller's progress" were so bogus. Who hasn't made a mistake where you only had a split second to make a decision? That disc could have gone in any direction, and Paul couldn't possibly guess or predict which direction it would take at that moment. Mistake, yes, we ALL make them, me more than others, but Paul volunteered to help out the touring pro disc golf community! Thank you, Paul!
Thank you for doing this interview Scott. Paul, don't worry about the internet trolls. Anybody questioning Pauls character should take a long and hard look at their own character or better yet lack of character.
Thank you Mr Stokely for being who you are , you are a true embassador of disc golf and the community. Thankyou to all the volunteers for sharing the love of the game and doing what they can to help. Thankyou to the spotter whom was unfortunate to be hit by the disc from GG. I felt for GG when it happened but I felt far worse for the spotter as I know how he must of felt and could see his reaction when the incident occurred. For any volunteer especially one whom has travelled such a distance to help out in the sport/ game that he/ she loves they fully deserve compassion from the rest of us!!! The Disc Golf Code of conduct is very clear on this, RESPECT OTHERS!!!!! For those of you who don't know Scott Stokely has travelled to many places around the world promoting disc golf. I know for a fact that he was loved in Cambodia when he ventured to Siem Reap 2 years ago for a tournament. Thankyou for this interview and insights.
You are the man Scott. Spotters are usually volunteers, I've kept score, and the sport we be no where without them. Accountability is everything! You have earned my respect sir!
Thank you Scott for shining a light on this man of character who made a mistake in the heat of the moment trying to do his very best. Paul I'm sorry that the world has become so ungracious and so judgemental. Thank you for trying to help out and being a standup guy
Wow this man drove 1000 miles to go be a volunteer at an event!! This man character has spoken loud and proud! Just a true FAN of disc golf! I like this video
Much love for tournament volunteers! ❤ Yo, until the tour professionalizes spotting and pays spotters and owns the process, internet trolls can eff off. Typed words in the modern era are toxic like a coronavirus.
Don’t let the trolls discourage you. You drove 1000 miles to volunteer! That’s commitment at the highest degree and I for one commend you for your passion and hard work sir.
Thank you for volunteering! You are a reason we have these events and everyone needs to know you are human and your energy is needed and a joy to be around! I hope you and your wife had a lovely ride home and got to play some courses you never have played! Thanks again
i just want to say thank you paul for volunteering! without people like you theese events would not be possible, and a big thanks to scott for this interview, i have seen alot of horrible comments lately, but im glad to find a place where reason can exist! we all make mistakes, but everybody seems to forget that once in a while. Much love to you both.
Thank you for spotting and thanks for driving over 1000 miles to do so. Thanks Scott for allowing him to say his piece on your platform and hey accidents happen. This man deserves applause for helping grow the sport. Ledgestone swag isnt worth the mans gas to get there and back but in his heart it is cuz he clearly has love for the sport to drive that far and volunteer. I havent even seen it happen and dont need to see it to know this man didnt mean to do anything but help the sport grow and this community will from it. We all will. Lessons learned. Let it go and thank this man for coming back the next day and trying to correct himself on a split second accident and even taking the time to sit with you and speak his piece. Give this man some peace.
I am just grateful for guys like this for doing stuff for disc golf, for little reward. Thanks Paul!! Keep up the good work. Made too many mistakes myself to cast any stones.
i appreciate you taking the time to make this video and allow him to address the issue. His apology was genuine. Nobody is perfect, but to admit your mistakes and apologize says more than anything. Thank you for taking the time to volunteer.
This video is incredible Scott! It is so ridiculous to see some in our community going after a member who went out of his way to VOLUNTEER at an event, to assume that Paul would have any malicious intent is crazy to me, especially hearing what he said about standing behind a tree the next day. There's so many factors that led to Garrett's disc hitting Paul - the hole, the OB lines, the golfer's line choice, inconsistent tee-off timings, and not to Paul's fault but lack of training for volunteers. Perhaps a list of criteria could be given to these volunteer spotters, things such as standing behind trees, popular lines on the holes they're spotting, optimal areas to stand, or just an overall briefing? The people jumping to immediately scapegoat Paul's split-second decision would never put themselves out there the way Paul has, I and many others are thankful for his contribution to the disc golf community, I hope we are louder than the haters. edit: gramar
Not his fault at all Paul was OB when this occurred not in the middle of the fairway like what happened to AB or when an umbrella or bag was hit. Great ace by the way scott
Best thing ive seen on the internet in a long time. Paul seems like a great guy of integrity who is passionate about disc golf and made an honest mistake. Thank you for showing the community that he is human and for using your platform to advocate for him. The world needs more of THIS ❤
Thank you Paul and Scott, I am glad we got to hear your side of the story! I have only been a member of this disc golf community for a short time, and I was embarrassed by a lot of the negative comments that I was reading in response to this incident. And in my opinion all that negativity and reactions Does Not Help To Grow This Sport!! Remember we as disc golfers need to show the positive side of disc golf. After all, we all are Ambassadors to the sport of disc golf, who can help grow this sport! And thank you Scott Stokely for setting the bar on how to be a great ambassador for this sport!!! Now we have the rest of the story and that is a good thing! Best wishes to you both!!
I saw the video once. It was clear that he tried to have the disc go through his legs. The disc clearly bounced up and caught him by surprise. Also, he was trying to keep an eye on where the disc went out. 💩 happens. That’s just disc golf. Thanks to the volunteers!!
Paul, thanks so much for all of your volunteer work to help run these events. We would love to send you some gear for all of your hard work. Please feel free to reach out us.
Paul has 1 thing in common and a 2nd thing that is very different from the critics online. The thing that he has in common is that he makes mistakes from time to time. The thing that is different is the online critics DO NOT have Character. I never post online, but this video was worth the time to make a comment. Thanks to Scott for his leadership in shedding light on the small-minded behavior of people who click around on their phones and snap to judgment on other who most likely are better humans that they will ever be. Freedom of speak was earned with great cost. Use your mind before typing or speaking and make sure the words that you use are worthy of the use of this great freedom. Let's not forget that we are throwing Frisbee into targets for fun and money.... in this case..... Not changing the world. Thanks again, Scott for the forsight to make this video. Paul, my advice, forgot the nonsense and move on with No concerns. You've made amends.... maybe buy a few extra packs of GG jerky as gesture of good will.
Thank you Paul for volunteering! Sacrificing your own time so that others can focus on playing the game. Scott, thank you for taking the time to support Paul. You are a true ambassador of the sport and a great leader in the community. It was one shot! Out of 1, 2, 3, and Finals Round. I'm glad that you are pushing this message forward to help educate people. Keep things Chill and Respectful. Thanks, Matt
Thanks for the leadership, Scott. When I see people getting upset it’s mostly about disrespecting the game, or at least a perception of disrespecting the game. Clearly this was an accident, and preventable, and the anger is from a perception of us trying to be cute which impacts someone else’s livelihood. Couldn’t agree more, let’s stop overreacting, and start learning and growing and maturing. So while we command and demand respect for the game and competition, let’s not forget that our fellow friends, fans, and family are also worthy of respect. Thank you for volunteering, sir.
Thanks for spotting and being a good dude and chatting, it's only fair enough that you shouldn't be shamed over this. Keep up your passions and thanks Scott for giving this man a platform. We're human and mistakes happen in all sports.
Hey Paul, thank you for agreeing to talk with Scott and even appear in a video on this issue. I know you'd love to put it behind you, and I agree, we all should leave this in the rear view mirror. I really do understand you meant no harm, and I think most people feel the same. I don't think anyone believes you meant to stop the disc, only that you made the wrong decision and got hit because of it. But I really do appreciate that you regret the decision and that in the end, you wouldn't make it again. I don't question your character, but I was upset (as a fan) that you made the choice you did, like many others. You should put this behind you. The rest of us will. Just keep trying to do better, and you can make this a positive outcome for others, as well as for yourself. You can tell people about that crazy story you made that one mistake, and give them guidance on how to prevent them from making one like that themselves. You can turn this into a positive experience. In the end it should be. And thank you Scott for letting Paul come on and show his humanity. If he was mean and indignant, that would be one thing. But he's regretful and apologetic, and I think will grow from this experience. 🙂
Thank you, Scott. I think anyone who ever criticises a volunteer is a first-rate a-hole. And, the 20/20 Retrospectoscope is an abysmal tool to apply to any situation. To Paul, thank you so much for your love of disc golf, and your dedication to volunteering in our sport. It is much appreciated. It sometimes slightly frustrates me that every few years there's always another new batch of people who arrive in disc golf, and who assume that disc golf was somehow "left behind" in the Great Professionalization Of Sport In The USA. They think the rules are rinky-dink, and that disc golf desperately needs fully paid whistle-blowing referees in order to become "Truly Professional". What a load of rubbish that is. It is the self-refereed aspect of disc golf which is a feature of our sport, and *not* a bug. It is what distinguishes disc golf from other sports, in fact. The PDGA has had many opportunities to adopt draconian rules and requirements for top flight events, and it has not gone down that path. Thankfully! Because the PDGA (despite being far from perfect!) do have a full understanding of what disc golf is, and the PDGA board have (over several decades!) shown remarkably consistent good governance in not adopting silly rules or requirements for our sport. Long may that continue!
Wow...I'm guilty here...not in a mean way but just on seeing 👀 the clip I was mad he interfered but never considered just how little time he had to see all the angles as a spotter.... that said I'm now (a little) more informed on the duties of a "volunteer" spotter and very impressed with how this man is owning his situation. Thanx Scott for having this guy on and opening myself and others up to the simple facts .... people make mistakes. This guy is definitely a good person n I for one wish him well and say THNX to him for his helping hand and being dedicated and involved with the sport I love.
Character assassination IS uncalled for and I completely disagree that his error was a split second decision. His error was allowing a 5-10 second decision to turn into a split second decision. I volunteer spotted last month. Paul waited far too long to react. GG released the disc nearly 10 sec before the hit, it took a huge hop 6 sec before the hit, took a second huge hop 3 sec before the hit, and crossed the OB line 2 sec before the hit. Reacting incorrectly to the final hop wasn’t the error; the error was failing to react to the release and the first two hops. Beyond spotter responsibility though, there is also room for the PDGA to either amend the rules regarding interference and/or for the dg community to more deeply register the fact that there is inherent risk any time we throw our disc OB and there are ultimately no guarantees our disc will eventually come to rest in bounds.
Thanks for the video. Paul made one mistake. He thought that he could dodge the disc, but it hit a hole just in-front of him and that brought the disc to chest high. You can see what he was trying to do if you watch the replay of the incident. Kudos to Paul and Scott for this clarification of the incident. I call this 1st world problems. We are worrying about a disc golf incident, but there are people in the 3rd world that are worrying about how to feed their family (btw where is the 2nd world). Thanks again Scott and Paul.
Good morning Paul and Scott, I never even thought about Paul having to spot where the disc went out of bounds, that brings a whole new angle to the situation, and maybe before tournaments TD’s should talk to and coach some of the spotters regarding situations like this for Prevention. Scott, you’re awesome for making this video, and Paul you’re awesome for explaining the situation, thanks for your volunteering, Paul! We love you buddy!
great idea and follow through Scott. This changed my mind on the incident. I'm not a keyboard warrior, but I saw it happen and it looked like he had time to get out of the way. You changed my perspective. And you reminded me once again to buy your book.
There is something very strange that has happened in our society in general in recent times: there is no grace allowed. Blame must be assigned, and there is no such thing as an honest mistake. I am as guilty of this as the next person, maybe more. This has been a great lesson to me to get back to a place where shit happens, people make mistakes, and we don't need to try and ruin people's lives over it. So, thanks.
@HTG4537 It really is. I was really choking up watching this. The poor guy is almost in tears over it, and I can understand why, reading some of the comments on the first post.
I’ve seen a lot on this, but have not personally seen the “judgement of character” they mention. More colorful than “bonehead”, but not assuming malicious intent or character. That being said, it does say a lot of his character to sit down for a video for the world to see. Much respect for that. Please, do better next time, but make sure there is a next time and continue to support the sport that we all love.
Thank You Scott for making this video...This man is a volunteer and an awesome one at that. The T.D. is ultimately responsible for every single detail of the event, it is on he or she to provide instructions to the volunteers. Details including where Pros are throwing. Thank you Paul for all you have done for the sport. : )
Mr. Stokley, you sir are an amazing ambassador for this sport. This is an incredible testimony of your character and the grace in which you engage with the community. More importantly, you have shared with our younger generations the concept of redemption and forgiveness. I truly feel like the concept of a "road to redemption" has been lost in the decade+ and we do not see this enough in the world. Please except my gratitude for you and your contributions to this sport I LOVE so much!
My critiques in the previous video, while harsh, hopefully were not construed as an inference to bad character. Poor choices were made that led to an unfortunate result. The worst part was it is on video coverage by the most popular disc golf channel. Paul, if you are reading this, I will say again, I'm glad you were not hurt. A Gurthie roller to the face would probably do more than sting. Mistakes happen, don't let it stop you from volunteering or take away any joy you get from disc golf away. Live and learn. Scott - you are the man for doing a follow-up and giving Paul a chance to give his perspective. Like the discussion the first video brought, like that you made this video to curb unproductive speculation about Paul's motives. He mentioned he lives in South Carolina, I think it would be great if you (or especially GG) could have Paul as a Caddie for USDGC. Give the story a positive ending.
A lot of people's outrage over this is absolutely ridiculous. They have no actual connection to the situation and absolutely should not have any actual feelings about it. GG is over it, so should all the internet fake outrage warriors out there. He obviously feels awful about and I'm sure it will sit on his conscience for quite some time. Good on you Scott for having him on and giving him a chance to share his side. If there is a patron Saint of Disc Golf, you are it. Paul definitely seems like a good man.
I've spotted quite a few decent-sized tournaments, including OTB. The first thing I tell anyone new is: "Your primary job is to not be in the way, including your stuff. The secondary job is to help the group decide if and where it went OB." Props to Paul for sitting down with a fellow old geezer and owning up to his mistake. That's all it was; a mistake.
Scott I said this on FB on the disc golf discussion page and got amazing feedback so maybe you can get other pros to jump on board and have the PDGA create a by law!! "PDGA rules need to add something along the lines of if the disc is either intentionally or unintentionally stopped while in play, disc should not be OB but play as in bounds where it hit the person or spectator." Think you can make it happen!? And add in there "where it is clear and obvious that the disc will make its way back in bounds" and "if not clear and obvious, the official or the card may make the call for that hinderence".
This is just a reminder to everyone, EVERYONE, that we need to stay aware of what’s going on to not affect play. It will happen again because we’re human but it just needs to happen as little as possible. Next time it could be a spectator or an object left where it could get in the way. We all need to learn from this mistake like we were taught as kids.
The fact that he was willing to come out and admit he made a mistake speaks volumes.. i respect a person that can admit fault.. so i thank you for speaking about it and admitting it was a mistake.
This was a refreshing manly way of handling this. Sit down face to face and talk, no behind the back crap. That's one of the reasons they say "say it to my face" I bet most people can't say their "opinion" to someone's face. You see a real human there and your compassion wins out. Thank you Paul for volunteering, you're a good man, don't let the keyboard warriors win. Remember, the empty can rattles the most.
I think the mans character has been proven by sitting down and admitting his mistake and owning it! Thanks to him and yourself for doing this.
@@don_dondg how could anyone question someone’s character who was out of bounds and tried to dodge a roller that bounced up and hit him. He probably could’ve moved in a better way but it was an obvious mistake and to question his character is just insane.
@@don_dondg if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a disc!
Tell Paul the vast vast majority of disc golfers appreciate him and all the volunteers helping out. Mistakes and accidents occur and also thank god for people like GG for saying it was an honest mistake and to leave the spotter alone.
Appreciate you doing this quick interview Scott and thanks again to all the volunteers that make the DGPT possible.
Cheers
Well said and agree with 100 percent
The internet is brutal and not real life. Those folks questioning character, have their own problems to sort out...
Internet is fake and full of idiots that wouldn't dare say it to someone's face.
@@chadmyers8685 It was John Wooden who said (and I’m paraphrasing here) “character is who you are when nobody is watching”. I feel it should be updated to “character is who you are when you’re online”. Too often I’ve met people who are super cool and nice in person and absolutely cruel jagoffs online. There’s something about the internet that gives people license to let the ugliest version of themselves out.
@@chadmyers8685 the internet is real life though. In 2024 do something dumb online and it can have real consequences.
@@sylol200 Not in my world. It's easily ignored.
@@chadmyers8685 Yeah, unfortunately not how it works bud. In your world or not the internet has consequences.
It’s amazes me he came back the next day. That’s a true man.
That's a man's man there!
Amen
Appreciate you spotting. I have volunteered spotting myself. The key word is volunteer and this was just an unfortunate incident. Thanks again for volunteering.
I’ve been a spotter for years and totally felt for this gentleman. I’ve had a Ricky Wysocki roller zip past me with a sound I can’t even describe. Those things are coming in fast and as a spotter, you are trying to help the card determine the OB mark as quickly and fairly as you can. I hope he keeps volunteering and spotting. It’s a great way to watch and be a part of this great sport!
The only things I know about Paul's character:
1. He drove 1000 miles to volunteer for 4 days.
2. He feels bad about making an honest mistake.
Sounds like a good guy to me.
Def a good dude!
'Honest'
Big shout out to Stokely for giving this man a platform to speak his heart to the community that shamed him.
Well said Scott. Thanks Paul for volunteering and showing up for the sport! We, of course, need more people like you to hold up the sport and provide support and service to the tournament and community. Thank you Scott for standing up for Paul and his character! I agree with you take Scott on this video and your previous one that spotters, umpires, or referees and the decisions/consequences are part of the game. Having them is better for the sport, not worse.
I felt so bad for Paul when watching it on Jomez, because his reaction made it clear how he felt as it happened.
Then I read all the negative comments, of all those smart people knowing exactly what he should have done, how easy it would have been to get out the way and even what his intentions were and so on. This made me feel bad for the whole sport, though ofc I should know better than to judge anything by reading online comments.
Thanks so much Scott for this video! All the best to you and Paul, and everyone else! Now let us all enjoy throwing discs again.❤
THANK YOU SCOTT!! Finally a voice of reason. Thank you Paul for volunteering, we have all made mistakes but almost none of us have had it happen so publicly. Thank you for sharing your side of the story.
Thanks Paul for volunteering and don’t worry about what the keyboard trolls out there are saying. Real disc golfers know what’s up. Thank you Scott and Double G for being the best possible ambassadors for the sport!
We throw plastic circles in the park, and we don't need to pretend it's any more serious than it sounds. Thanks for Paul for volunteering, and for Scott for bringing level-headedness to this silly, silly case.
Great interview Scott! I met Paul while I was in Peoria and he was a great guy. Thanks to everyone that VOLUNTEERS their time!
WHAT A CHAMPION. Thank you for loving disc golf and volunteering your time, Paul. That coulda been any of us out there. Hope to see you out there spotting again. :)
My dad, a Vietman Vet always said "never volunteer, that'll get you killed". I feel that lesson applies here, somehow.
@@chefmarkkalix With Garrett Gurthie throwing that disc, he’s lucky to be alive and with all his limbs lol
Appreciate you spotting. Things like this happen
Got him in the hot seat and he faced the music. Good on him.
Thanks to Paul for stepping up and volunteering. I've also been a spotter during a Pro Tour tournament and It's NOT an easy job!
I made the post on Reddit of the clipped jomez video. The commentator on live DGN said the spotter was trying to line it between his legs. I saw the video from the view of your angle. I am deeply sorry for blaming you of intentionally trying to be “cool.” Thank you for sacrificing your weekend and ability to watch the other holes of the event to make the tournament a better event!
@@andrewboyer8444 Faith in internet humanity restored. Thanks to all involved. 🙏
Where's this 'view from the grassy knoll' vid?
Keep your head up Paul! Things happen. We appreciate everything you do
I have been a spotter so many times and it is so easy to think your clear but that disc comes in hot and has different reactions. I have almost been hit a bunch and im actually not in the way. Thanks to all volunteers in the sport.
You are definitely the best ambassador for our sport Scott. Never stop.
Thanks Scott, I have been spotting at the BHMO since the beginning. Spotters seldom get thanks.I counted the number of players that thanked me for spotting last year at Idlewild. I do not need Thanks, but I was curious. It was about a handful, far less than the BHMO. I can thank Brent for that, he always asked players to thank the spotters.
I spotted at European Open. The majority of players of the US thanked me. Probably every card thanked me. It was my first time spotting and I did not really know how to react but I feel thankful when players thank me. The task is fulfilling enough to do the job with big smile on my face. At the same time I get to see every top player around the world throw accurate bombs past me. The kindness from players is a cherry on top!
@@teemuojaniitty9864 It very much depend on the event. I think the European events are looked at differently than events here in the US, they seem more professional over there. Maybe because disc golf started here in the states spotters are just expected, or maybe the professionals at DGPT events here in the states just think spotters should be thankful that they are on the same course as them. When Brent started using spotters at the 1991 Columbus Open (BHMO now) it was a new idea. We thought what do we need spotters for?
Thank you for humanizing this moment. Spotting can be stressful, thank you for your service Paul!
Explaining why he was so close to the OB line and how he got into that predicament really makes a lot of since. I never thought about as a spotter making sure you have a visual of where it went out originally in case it didn't stay in. Glad he came on to clear things up. Seems like a good dude!
I appreciate you Paul!!!! Thank you for giving this guy a voice Scott
Paul is a legend for driving 1000 miles to volunteer. And Scott is the best for bringing this perspective. We need more people like that and less Reddit trolls.
My gut reaction when I saw this happen was 'oh come on, you know it's coming at you and you know how backhand rollers shape up, AND it was clearly gonna end up safe in bounds.' Then I stopped to think about the fact that the spotter is trying to look at the OB line, as the disc had previously crossed OB and was still not back in bounds. I also felt like, "how many shots do I watch COMING AT ME vs. away from me? How hard would that actually have been to judge it from HIS perspective?" Have you ever had a groundball come at you in the infield and suddenly it jumps up and hits ya in the chest? Yea... It's easy to judge watching a video but I don't think this is anyone's "fault." People still get hit by balls at PGA golf events. It doesn't mean drastic change is required. It's just unfortunate that this stuff does happen sometimes.
So true.
Scott, you are a wonderful Man.
If only you knew half the scams Scott used to run .. and I’m a Stokely fan, sort of.
@@vJackaRoo If only you were half the man as Scott we wouldn't be here talking.
Have you ever been to meet Scott at one of these "scams"?
@@PetersPan24 I knew Stokely back in the 90s
Paul volunteered for 4 days in the blazing heat of Peoria Illinois. He and all the volunteers deserve our respect, thanks and gratitude .
Nice video Scott, and thanks for providing a ‘course correction’ nudge. Thanks to Paul for investing so much into volunteering for the sport and it’s community. Good people giving freely is a critical component of our sport being able to provide us the experiences of seeing high level pro performances around the world - or even just a friendly competition at our local C-tier event. Thanks!
Scott we are living in a different time than when “we” grew up. These people nowadays have snap judgment on EVERYTHING. They don’t research or take the time to understand facts.
It’s all about “ I’m going to be the first person to comment and I’m right “ or “ I KNOW why it’s happening “… I seriously wished there was no social media. It’s made people so arrogant and narcissistic.
I wish this “Spotter” the best. Please don’t let this one incident bother you. Although it’s hard now getting shots across the bow from everyone.
God Bless you Sir.
Thanks for volunteering to be a spotter and I hope you won't stop volunteering because of a simple mistake. I make mistakes every day all day long. Thanks Scott
Paul, I have the highest respect for you! Thank you for volunteering. Ann
W accountability Paul. Thanks for volunteering!
Thank you for doing this interview, I feel sorry for this man. Greetings from Sweden
Scott, you're the GOAT for this. Thanks for being an advocate for this man, and for allowing him to show the world that he doesn't deserve the ire he's received!
dude drove a 1000 miles to volunteer. hes a better man than I. respect doing the interview. well done sir
Thank you, Scott, for your first video and for this video. The videos online showing Paul "blocking the roller's progress" were so bogus. Who hasn't made a mistake where you only had a split second to make a decision? That disc could have gone in any direction, and Paul couldn't possibly guess or predict which direction it would take at that moment. Mistake, yes, we ALL make them, me more than others, but Paul volunteered to help out the touring pro disc golf community! Thank you, Paul!
Thank you for doing this interview Scott. Paul, don't worry about the internet trolls. Anybody questioning Pauls character should take a long and hard look at their own character or better yet lack of character.
Well done, Scott! Excellent use of your platform.
Thank you Mr Stokely for being who you are , you are a true embassador of disc golf and the community. Thankyou to all the volunteers for sharing the love of the game and doing what they can to help. Thankyou to the spotter whom was unfortunate to be hit by the disc from GG. I felt for GG when it happened but I felt far worse for the spotter as I know how he must of felt and could see his reaction when the incident occurred. For any volunteer especially one whom has travelled such a distance to help out in the sport/ game that he/ she loves they fully deserve compassion from the rest of us!!! The Disc Golf Code of conduct is very clear on this, RESPECT OTHERS!!!!!
For those of you who don't know Scott Stokely has travelled to many places around the world promoting disc golf. I know for a fact that he was loved in Cambodia when he ventured to Siem Reap 2 years ago for a tournament. Thankyou for this interview and insights.
You are the man Scott. Spotters are usually volunteers, I've kept score, and the sport we be no where without them. Accountability is everything! You have earned my respect sir!
Thanks for doing this Scott.. this guy doesn’t deserve all the hate.
Thank you Scott for shining a light on this man of character who made a mistake in the heat of the moment trying to do his very best. Paul I'm sorry that the world has become so ungracious and so judgemental. Thank you for trying to help out and being a standup guy
Wow this man drove 1000 miles to go be a volunteer at an event!! This man character has spoken loud and proud! Just a true FAN of disc golf! I like this video
I'm a locksmith by profession, I know mistakes happen and are messy sometimes. Thank you for shedding some light and love bro.
Much love for tournament volunteers! ❤ Yo, until the tour professionalizes spotting and pays spotters and owns the process, internet trolls can eff off. Typed words in the modern era are toxic like a coronavirus.
Don’t let the trolls discourage you. You drove 1000 miles to volunteer! That’s commitment at the highest degree and I for one commend you for your passion and hard work sir.
Thank you so much for doing this for him. ❤
Good piece Scott. Water under the bridge Paul. We hope to see you out there again.
Thank you for volunteering! You are a reason we have these events and everyone needs to know you are human and your energy is needed and a joy to be around! I hope you and your wife had a lovely ride home and got to play some courses you never have played! Thanks again
i just want to say thank you paul for volunteering! without people like you theese events would not be possible, and a big thanks to scott for this interview, i have seen alot of horrible comments lately, but im glad to find a place where reason can exist! we all make mistakes, but everybody seems to forget that once in a while. Much love to you both.
Thank you Scott for doing this
Thank you for spotting and thanks for driving over 1000 miles to do so. Thanks Scott for allowing him to say his piece on your platform and hey accidents happen. This man deserves applause for helping grow the sport. Ledgestone swag isnt worth the mans gas to get there and back but in his heart it is cuz he clearly has love for the sport to drive that far and volunteer. I havent even seen it happen and dont need to see it to know this man didnt mean to do anything but help the sport grow and this community will from it. We all will. Lessons learned. Let it go and thank this man for coming back the next day and trying to correct himself on a split second accident and even taking the time to sit with you and speak his piece. Give this man some peace.
I am just grateful for guys like this for doing stuff for disc golf, for little reward. Thanks Paul!! Keep up the good work.
Made too many mistakes myself to cast any stones.
Wow, this is a great way to use social media for healthy conversation. Awesome work Scott, love ya Paul.
i appreciate you taking the time to make this video and allow him to address the issue. His apology was genuine. Nobody is perfect, but to admit your mistakes and apologize says more than anything. Thank you for taking the time to volunteer.
This video is incredible Scott! It is so ridiculous to see some in our community going after a member who went out of his way to VOLUNTEER at an event, to assume that Paul would have any malicious intent is crazy to me, especially hearing what he said about standing behind a tree the next day. There's so many factors that led to Garrett's disc hitting Paul - the hole, the OB lines, the golfer's line choice, inconsistent tee-off timings, and not to Paul's fault but lack of training for volunteers. Perhaps a list of criteria could be given to these volunteer spotters, things such as standing behind trees, popular lines on the holes they're spotting, optimal areas to stand, or just an overall briefing? The people jumping to immediately scapegoat Paul's split-second decision would never put themselves out there the way Paul has, I and many others are thankful for his contribution to the disc golf community, I hope we are louder than the haters.
edit: gramar
Not his fault at all Paul was OB when this occurred not in the middle of the fairway like what happened to AB or when an umbrella or bag was hit. Great ace by the way scott
Errrr. No.
This is internet gold!! Thank you Scott & Paul
👏👏👏Brave, felt a bit uncomfortable ofc, but that disc were clearly trying to hit him just to be part of Scott Stokelys simulation ;P
Thank you, Paul for your dedication to such a wonderful sport! If you're ever near Aiken let's go throw!!
Best thing ive seen on the internet in a long time. Paul seems like a great guy of integrity who is passionate about disc golf and made an honest mistake. Thank you for showing the community that he is human and for using your platform to advocate for him. The world needs more of THIS ❤
Thank you Paul and Scott, I am glad we got to hear your side of the story! I have only been a member of this disc golf community for a short time, and I was embarrassed by a lot of the negative comments that I was reading in response to this incident. And in my opinion all that negativity and reactions Does Not Help To Grow This Sport!! Remember we as disc golfers need to show the positive side of disc golf. After all, we all are Ambassadors to the sport of disc golf, who can help grow this sport! And thank you Scott Stokely for setting the bar on how to be a great ambassador for this sport!!! Now we have the rest of the story and that is a good thing! Best wishes to you both!!
Thank you!
I saw the video once. It was clear that he tried to have the disc go through his legs. The disc clearly bounced up and caught him by surprise. Also, he was trying to keep an eye on where the disc went out. 💩 happens. That’s just disc golf. Thanks to the volunteers!!
Guys like Paul make this sport possible!!! Much thanks to Paul and all the volunteers!!!
It is great to have people volunteer, thank you.
Paul, thanks so much for all of your volunteer work to help run these events. We would love to send you some gear for all of your hard work. Please feel free to reach out us.
Paul has 1 thing in common and a 2nd thing that is very different from the critics online.
The thing that he has in common is that he makes mistakes from time to time.
The thing that is different is the online critics DO NOT have Character.
I never post online, but this video was worth the time to make a comment.
Thanks to Scott for his leadership in shedding light on the small-minded behavior of people who click around on their phones and snap to judgment on other who most likely are better humans that they will ever be.
Freedom of speak was earned with great cost. Use your mind before typing or speaking and make sure the words that you use are worthy of the use of this great freedom.
Let's not forget that we are throwing Frisbee into targets for fun and money.... in this case..... Not changing the world.
Thanks again, Scott for the forsight to make this video.
Paul, my advice, forgot the nonsense and move on with No concerns. You've made amends.... maybe buy a few extra packs of GG jerky as gesture of good will.
Thank you Paul for volunteering! Sacrificing your own time so that others can focus on playing the game. Scott, thank you for taking the time to support Paul. You are a true ambassador of the sport and a great leader in the community. It was one shot! Out of 1, 2, 3, and Finals Round. I'm glad that you are pushing this message forward to help educate people. Keep things Chill and Respectful. Thanks, Matt
There’s a clear distinction between saying that a guy made a stupid move and saying the guy is stupid. Can we agree on that an act accordingly online?
Thanks for the leadership, Scott. When I see people getting upset it’s mostly about disrespecting the game, or at least a perception of disrespecting the game. Clearly this was an accident, and preventable, and the anger is from a perception of us trying to be cute which impacts someone else’s livelihood. Couldn’t agree more, let’s stop overreacting, and start learning and growing and maturing. So while we command and demand respect for the game and competition, let’s not forget that our fellow friends, fans, and family are also worthy of respect. Thank you for volunteering, sir.
Thanks for spotting and being a good dude and chatting, it's only fair enough that you shouldn't be shamed over this. Keep up your passions and thanks Scott for giving this man a platform. We're human and mistakes happen in all sports.
Thanks for volunteering to spot, Paul. ❤
Hey Paul, thank you for agreeing to talk with Scott and even appear in a video on this issue. I know you'd love to put it behind you, and I agree, we all should leave this in the rear view mirror. I really do understand you meant no harm, and I think most people feel the same. I don't think anyone believes you meant to stop the disc, only that you made the wrong decision and got hit because of it. But I really do appreciate that you regret the decision and that in the end, you wouldn't make it again. I don't question your character, but I was upset (as a fan) that you made the choice you did, like many others.
You should put this behind you. The rest of us will. Just keep trying to do better, and you can make this a positive outcome for others, as well as for yourself. You can tell people about that crazy story you made that one mistake, and give them guidance on how to prevent them from making one like that themselves. You can turn this into a positive experience. In the end it should be. And thank you Scott for letting Paul come on and show his humanity. If he was mean and indignant, that would be one thing. But he's regretful and apologetic, and I think will grow from this experience. 🙂
Thank you, Scott. I think anyone who ever criticises a volunteer is a first-rate a-hole.
And, the 20/20 Retrospectoscope is an abysmal tool to apply to any situation.
To Paul, thank you so much for your love of disc golf, and your dedication to volunteering in our sport. It is much appreciated.
It sometimes slightly frustrates me that every few years there's always another new batch of people who arrive in disc golf, and who assume that disc golf was somehow "left behind" in the Great Professionalization Of Sport In The USA. They think the rules are rinky-dink, and that disc golf desperately needs fully paid whistle-blowing referees in order to become "Truly Professional".
What a load of rubbish that is. It is the self-refereed aspect of disc golf which is a feature of our sport, and *not* a bug. It is what distinguishes disc golf from other sports, in fact. The PDGA has had many opportunities to adopt draconian rules and requirements for top flight events, and it has not gone down that path. Thankfully! Because the PDGA (despite being far from perfect!) do have a full understanding of what disc golf is, and the PDGA board have (over several decades!) shown remarkably consistent good governance in not adopting silly rules or requirements for our sport.
Long may that continue!
Wow...I'm guilty here...not in a mean way but just on seeing 👀 the clip I was mad he interfered but never considered just how little time he had to see all the angles as a spotter.... that said I'm now (a little) more informed on the duties of a "volunteer" spotter and very impressed with how this man is owning his situation. Thanx Scott for having this guy on and opening myself and others up to the simple facts .... people make mistakes. This guy is definitely a good person n I for one wish him well and say THNX to him for his helping hand and being dedicated and involved with the sport I love.
Character assassination IS uncalled for and I completely disagree that his error was a split second decision. His error was allowing a 5-10 second decision to turn into a split second decision. I volunteer spotted last month. Paul waited far too long to react. GG released the disc nearly 10 sec before the hit, it took a huge hop 6 sec before the hit, took a second huge hop 3 sec before the hit, and crossed the OB line 2 sec before the hit. Reacting incorrectly to the final hop wasn’t the error; the error was failing to react to the release and the first two hops. Beyond spotter responsibility though, there is also room for the PDGA to either amend the rules regarding interference and/or for the dg community to more deeply register the fact that there is inherent risk any time we throw our disc OB and there are ultimately no guarantees our disc will eventually come to rest in bounds.
Thanks for the video. Paul made one mistake. He thought that he could dodge the disc, but it hit a hole just in-front of him and that brought the disc to chest high. You can see what he was trying to do if you watch the replay of the incident. Kudos to Paul and Scott for this clarification of the incident. I call this 1st world problems. We are worrying about a disc golf incident, but there are people in the 3rd world that are worrying about how to feed their family (btw where is the 2nd world). Thanks again Scott and Paul.
Good morning Paul and Scott, I never even thought about Paul having to spot where the disc went out of bounds, that brings a whole new angle to the situation, and maybe before tournaments TD’s should talk to and coach some of the spotters regarding situations like this for Prevention. Scott, you’re awesome for making this video, and Paul you’re awesome for explaining the situation, thanks for your volunteering, Paul! We love you buddy!
great idea and follow through Scott. This changed my mind on the incident. I'm not a keyboard warrior, but I saw it happen and it looked like he had time to get out of the way. You changed my perspective. And you reminded me once again to buy your book.
There is something very strange that has happened in our society in general in recent times: there is no grace allowed. Blame must be assigned, and there is no such thing as an honest mistake. I am as guilty of this as the next person, maybe more.
This has been a great lesson to me to get back to a place where shit happens, people make mistakes, and we don't need to try and ruin people's lives over it. So, thanks.
100%. I agree with you.
People are online trying to hang someone for an honest mistake. It's actually super depressing that we've come to this point.
@HTG4537 It really is. I was really choking up watching this. The poor guy is almost in tears over it, and I can understand why, reading some of the comments on the first post.
I’ve seen a lot on this, but have not personally seen the “judgement of character” they mention. More colorful than “bonehead”, but not assuming malicious intent or character. That being said, it does say a lot of his character to sit down for a video for the world to see. Much respect for that. Please, do better next time, but make sure there is a next time and continue to support the sport that we all love.
Thank You Scott for making this video...This man is a volunteer and an awesome one at that. The T.D. is ultimately responsible for every single detail of the event, it is on he or she to provide instructions to the volunteers. Details including where Pros are throwing. Thank you Paul for all you have done for the sport. : )
Mr. Stokley, you sir are an amazing ambassador for this sport. This is an incredible testimony of your character and the grace in which you engage with the community. More importantly, you have shared with our younger generations the concept of redemption and forgiveness. I truly feel like the concept of a "road to redemption" has been lost in the decade+ and we do not see this enough in the world. Please except my gratitude for you and your contributions to this sport I LOVE so much!
My critiques in the previous video, while harsh, hopefully were not construed as an inference to bad character. Poor choices were made that led to an unfortunate result. The worst part was it is on video coverage by the most popular disc golf channel.
Paul, if you are reading this, I will say again, I'm glad you were not hurt. A Gurthie roller to the face would probably do more than sting. Mistakes happen, don't let it stop you from volunteering or take away any joy you get from disc golf away. Live and learn.
Scott - you are the man for doing a follow-up and giving Paul a chance to give his perspective. Like the discussion the first video brought, like that you made this video to curb unproductive speculation about Paul's motives. He mentioned he lives in South Carolina, I think it would be great if you (or especially GG) could have Paul as a Caddie for USDGC. Give the story a positive ending.
Scott showing again why he's such a legend in the sport. Thank you to all the volunteers and people who make these events run smoothly 🤘
Idk who Scott Stokely is, but I can definitely recognize that he leads with empathy, consideration, and we need more people like that in this world.
A lot of people's outrage over this is absolutely ridiculous. They have no actual connection to the situation and absolutely should not have any actual feelings about it. GG is over it, so should all the internet fake outrage warriors out there. He obviously feels awful about and I'm sure it will sit on his conscience for quite some time. Good on you Scott for having him on and giving him a chance to share his side. If there is a patron Saint of Disc Golf, you are it. Paul definitely seems like a good man.
I've spotted quite a few decent-sized tournaments, including OTB. The first thing I tell anyone new is: "Your primary job is to not be in the way, including your stuff. The secondary job is to help the group decide if and where it went OB." Props to Paul for sitting down with a fellow old geezer and owning up to his mistake. That's all it was; a mistake.
Scott I said this on FB on the disc golf discussion page and got amazing feedback so maybe you can get other pros to jump on board and have the PDGA create a by law!!
"PDGA rules need to add something along the lines of if the disc is either intentionally or unintentionally stopped while in play, disc should not be OB but play as in bounds where it hit the person or spectator."
Think you can make it happen!?
And add in there "where it is clear and obvious that the disc will make its way back in bounds" and "if not clear and obvious, the official or the card may make the call for that hinderence".
Well said Scott! Shake it off Paul, never worry about what the internet thinks, says or does you handled it very well.
Thanks for taking the time to share the spotter's side of the story. Awesomeness.
This is just a reminder to everyone, EVERYONE, that we need to stay aware of what’s going on to not affect play. It will happen again because we’re human but it just needs to happen as little as possible. Next time it could be a spectator or an object left where it could get in the way. We all need to learn from this mistake like we were taught as kids.
The fact that he was willing to come out and admit he made a mistake speaks volumes.. i respect a person that can admit fault.. so i thank you for speaking about it and admitting it was a mistake.
Anyone and everyone messes up and if people say they dont then they are liars. We all appreciate volunteers! Thank this guy for doing this job!
This was a refreshing manly way of handling this. Sit down face to face and talk, no behind the back crap. That's one of the reasons they say "say it to my face" I bet most people can't say their "opinion" to someone's face. You see a real human there and your compassion wins out. Thank you Paul for volunteering, you're a good man, don't let the keyboard warriors win. Remember, the empty can rattles the most.