Family Feud in Moonlight Falls | The Wolff’s and The Van Gould’s | The Sims Lore
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Today, we're moving in Moonlight Falls! A much awaited town that you guys wanted me to cover, so here it is! we're starting off with werewolf family, the Wolff's and vampire family, the Van Gould's! This story follows their rivalry which has been going on for generations! So grab your snacks, wolff them down and hope you enjoy this fang-tastic Sims 3 folklore! 👀🧛🐺
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i loved in sims 3 how the toddler werewolves could scratch the furniture and do little howls 🥺💕
Such cuties 🥺
And the vampire toddlers would bite the necks of their teddy bears..ah memories!
WHAAAAT??? i never saw that😲😲
And witch toddlers make the toys disappear and appear. The first time I saw it I went to the buy mode to buy a new toy box. Then, I noticed this feature when I came back to the live mode. Adult Sim witches make things disappear definitely and I thought it was the same with toddlers but it wasn't. 😂
Gets annoying real fast when you're playing as a broke babysitter and GATOR KEEPS DESTROYING EVERYTHING YOU OWN...okay, I'm done now...
Right now I’m playing as a human sim journalist in moonlight falls who digs up dirt on all the supernaturals.
Thats such a great idea! I might do this too! Thanks 😄
Oooh I love this!
Love how the Sims 3 is still getting so much attention!
lore never ends in sims 3. ugh its such an awesome game
I still play the sims 3
@Kosename I think I heard a rumor or something about a “Sims 4”
@Kosename Yeah, but I've heard there's no open world, so I don't really believe it
If only they still made it easier to buy, I can't get sims 3 now without having to download this thing that looks like it'll crash my computer, so I'm not risking it.
I think the creepy one bed bedroom in the attic is for a butler. Since you are told you need an extra bed for a butler as you hire the service.
Is the other extra bedroom, the one with the computer and toy box, also in the room, for Waylon, or Bailey, perhaps?
@@robroush2142 The room with the singular red bed in the attic next to Bonehilda. 5:46
@@theblackcatgirl7013 I meant the room on the same floor as the bedrooms the vampires use. Sorry for the confusion.
@@robroush2142 Ooohhh my bad aswell.
You do have a point though, that does make sense that it would be one of theirs.
Ahhh finally. I'm sooner than Dina proposing Mortimer.
LMAO
😂😂😭
All these years and I've never once connected the dots between moonlight falls and twilight. Then again I've never really been into twilight.
I picked up on that and the one sim being a reference to Draculaura just before she said it 🤣
And Marigold Maldano is a parody of sookie from true blood
The reference to La Push Beach is what made me realise that the Swain house was the Swans. In Moonlight falls La Push is La Shove :)
Just a few days ago I realised that Bailey Swain is actually Bella Swan hahaah
I mean, Brooding trait, "Watching you while you sleep" And sparkling vampire. How could you not connect the dot? 😅
To me it's the best town of all, mostly because of the many victorian looking houses, the Twilight references, and the fact that you can place so many lots because it's pretty flat, unline let's say Bridgeport or Sunset Valley~
Is Ayden a relative of the Goth's? There's a book called "Baron Graff Van Gould" written by Alexander Goth.
We need a second part of this video.
Wow i would never make the conection, thank you!
Well, Alexander did travel to the past to save his mother...who knows how far back he went
The Van Gould mansion actually slaps WTF? Didn't know the sims team could build decently B)
Because in the Sims 3 they actually gave the characters and houses lore and personality
Yeah, I love the mansion. I especially love the roof clippings that go through EVERY ROOM!
@@Sirens_kai Remind me of half decorated nursery in Agnes Crumplebottom house 😢
And the Sims 3 builders there are probably not the same exactl people that build houses in Sims 4 now >>
@@blameitondanny i thought that was because she didnt finish decorating with her husband before the honeymoon and did touch it after he died
Honestly, revisiting the Sims 3 being older. There's definitely a lot of houses and general vibes of the place that remind me more of true blood than twilight. There's one house in particular that I'm convince is sookies house.
Really which house???
@@IDKHonestly I haven't played in a while so I'm not sure of the name. I remember it being an empty because I didn't kick anyone out to move in, and it's yellow with a garage on the side. The look of the outside isn't spot on in shape, but When I moved a SIM in I couldn't help but think that the layout and the general aesthetic of the place really resembled her grandmas home.
@@AzuraBlackHeart Marigold's house, AKA The Bay View, is like a more efficient and compartmentalized version of Gran's house. Sadly, they forgot to make a ghost of Marigold's grandma, and possibly uncle, as well.
Marigold is basically Sookie with a sillier name and her house is pretty close to what I feel the book's description of the farmhouse was if not the show's. But sadly while they added a Sam in her ex-boyfriend we didn't get an Eric or even a Bill, though I'm more then happy to not have the latter since it saves me the job of killing him off. I can see the Bon Temps feel to the town since a lot of the houses do have that old southern farmhouse feel to them but the town itself feels a bit more Mystic Falls to me.
It is a mix of Twilight, True Blood and Vampire Diaries. It is said so in the Wiki page for the expansion.
Seeing Emilie and Draculaura made me *chefs kiss*
This is just how I think about how they are related, but I think that the Wolffs in Sunset Valley are distant relatives to the Wolffs in Moonlight Falls. They share the same ancestor, but their descendants were split into two bloodlines. A human bloodline and a werewolf bloodline.
OMG! Monster high?! How did I never notice that?!!
Wheree :o
@@LaSpectre1124 In "references" she talks about Emily van Gould referencing Draculaura
I've always thought the attic bedroom belonged to Bonehilda before she died. I think Ayden is the only one Sim in the town owning a cuffing of Bonehilda. Also, if you hire a maid, she will run away shouting "you won't turn me in a cleaner skeleton" or something like that. I waited until the end of the video to check if you have mentioned it.
I forgot to explain I had to hire the maid because Bonehilda was always preparing fast food dishes and not cleaning them. If she were a human Sim she would have the slob trait. Was it a coincidence or it's an Easter egg of a revenge for such supernatural labor exploitation? Also, I sold her coffin and bought a new one. This problem was solved, but that choice was eerie now I think about it...
Maayyyybe it was for a butler? Butlers live with you and you are told as you hire the service you need to place a bed for them. I.e the red attic bed.
@@theblackcatgirl7013 Maybe, since butlers are the closest to be live-in maids. You can add a Sim in the household to clean or take care of the children and simulate they are a live-in maid or nanny writing it on their bio like Odine in Bridgeport. However, butlers are from other expansion pack and they don't quit when they see Bonehilda.
Looks like a servant's room indeed.
She mentioned it in another video.
@@deryasonmez330 Which one? Sorry, I don't remember it.
I can't be the only one who gets strange vibes from Pip Goodfellow
Glad I'm not the only one thinking this!!!
oh my god i cannot believe 20+ people (including me) got kinda spooky vibes from him LOL
@@ecisk0562 the way he looked always freaked me out.
Isn't he a reference to Puck from Shakespear?
What is it about him? :/
Waylon needs a makeover STAT! I was so happy when you mentioned it I was like “YES!” 😂
Waylon could have a more attractive Jacob-esque makeover.
If you play Supernatural in Sunset Valley, Thorton Wolff actually IS a werewolf.
Gosh. I've been playing this game for HOW LONG and I now only make the connections. 🤣🤣😂😂
Learning something new every day with Sims Lore. You're awesome! Thank you.
Whaaaat!!!??? Someone else has said that to me but i have the pack and i play with Morgana and Thornton all the time and he isn't a werewolf in my games??? Whyyyy is my game broken?? 💔
@@TheSimsLore my sister's game is also broken apparently🤣
@@TheSimsLore I think they mean that they become werewolves if you play with someone else and with EA story progression on. I did that and that's how they became werewolves!
@@TheSimsLore It doesn’t happen automatically, sometimes it just goes that way with story progression, but it’s entirely coincidence
@@TheSimsLore The game randomizes who becomes what occult, so it's not the same for everyone. I had Thorton being a vampire more often than a werewolf.
You know it's gonna be good when the queen uploads a half hour video.
Yes, the good ol' vampire x werewolf drama
Bailey Swain and Tristan Van Gould... a better love story than Twilight
There’s a family I love I forgot the name but they are based on the Weasleys from Harry Potter I would love a video on them :)
The MacDuff. I love them but since they hate birth control, you'll see them EVERYWHERE.
My daughter ended up dating Tristan. Coincidentally she's a werewolf.
bailey swain ended up with faith macduff and it was so cute
I always interpreted that thing about Waylon getting As on tests despite being a C student overall as him being like me: extremely good on tests and classwork, horrible beyond belief at homework
I think they just didn't play with the kids, all of them have a C average compared to the kids in Sunset Valley who have different grades. Interestingly the only person with the (hidden) homework skill is Bailey Swain (the girl in love with the vampire).
Boy oh boy do I love Moonlight Falls.
In my game for storytelling purposes I like to assume a courple of things:
1. There was a third Moonlight Falls founder - a Crumplebottom witch. Aiden van Gould and the founder Wolff were both in love with the witch but she tragically died because of their rivarly and two families hated each other ever since. I also set the Crumplebottom witches as balance keepers of the town.
2. Elvira Slayer is the mother of Tristan and Emily. She owed Aiden and gave him two kids as part of debt repayment. She of course has no interest in her kids.
3. Either Emily or Waylon dies when I'm in a bad mood.
Ah but I must remind you that the Goths are/were present in moonlight falls as well currently they are present as ghosts but were surely at one point Living sims so either they moved to moonlight falls shortly after its founding or were present at the founding making a Fourth founding family possible but merely a footnote (also regarding the crumplebottoms I always saw that family in moonlight falls as a reference to Halloween town (similarly the MacDuff? Family in moonlight falls strikes me as possibly being a reference to Harry potter due to how its stated that the husband of that family met his wife (not to mention they are a family of red heads that to my knowledge are witches/warlocks)
@@sockshandle In a video about Lolita Goth there is a theory that Frida Goth from Moonlight Falls = Lolita Goth from Sunset Valley. If it is so, she is possibly Gunther's sister and I guess the Goths couldn't have moved to Moonlight Falls that long ago. But it's absolutely up to the player which narrative to create!
Regarding the Crumplebottoms: I always saw them as a reference either to sisters from Hocus Pocus or the Halliwell sisters from Charmed. But I guess this is the topic for another video!
Whos elvira
@@NorlyJoy she's from Bridgeport (Late Night), old vamp, lives alone, has power conflicts with new vamp group
Omg! Such an amazing idea, I agree the witches definitely should be part of the town's elders and decision makers. Also I believe the Van Ghould kids' mother has some lore too, I need to look into it. Maybe it's time to play some Sims 3 again 😎
I just love how much lore Sims 3 has.
I also want to makeover Waylon so badly every time I see him, but I have literally no idea what to do with him 😂
I changed his hair color to black, removed the glasses and icky mustache , and got him ripped so he looks like Jacob from Twilight lol
Pretty sure Pappy's got the tv for his grandkids for when they visit!
Moonlight falls is probably one of my favorite worlds in the sims 3!! I’m so happy thank TSL!!
Also fun fact: (I’m not sure if it’s the same Wolff, but in Sunset Valley (if I remember correctly) Morgan Wolff sometimes comes up as a werewolf with the expansion installed ^^
Omg whaaaat?? I never knew that, i have the pack installed but he's never a werewolf for meee 😭 edit: also do u mean Thornton, cause Morgana married into the Wolff family!
Same. Plus, Cornelia Goth became a witch. 😂 I found it a funny coincidence with the bio of their relatives in Moonlight Falls. I didn't know it was on purpose.
For some reason In Barnacle Bay I had Nina Caliente become a werewolf...
@@Sirens_kai Don't worry, it's purely random wheter townies become supernaturals or not.
I approve of Sunset Valley supernaturals. Gunther Goth as a vamp, Cornelia Goth as a witch, Agnes Crumplebottom as a witch, as well as the Wolffs being werewolves, among others.
Okay who did the play testing of the mansion? I wanna speak to their manager. 😂😂 Sooo much roof clipping it hurts my eyes....
Seeing Waylon talking to Morgana in Sunset Valley's environment is tripping me out a little 😂
the last time i played as the van goulds, emelie aged up into a young adult and gained the "supernatural skeptic" trait, despite being a vampire... 🤔
This happened to me with the toodler werewolf hahaha
Maybe her supernatural powers haven't emerged yet and she was doubting herself haha
Always loved Moonlight Falls, it's one of my favorite towns and I'm so freaking excited for some supernatural lore :>
Considering the year this expansion came out, its not too surprising it was a huge reference to Twilight.
(I never liked Twilight but I remember seeing the trailer for this expansion and you can just...tell)
well this expansion had the sparkly effect on the vampires so they wont die from the sun (it's a huge giveaway)
I loved the supernatural pack in the sims 3 and seeing this is one of the best things ever
same it has lore, gameplay, and awesome aesthetics it like a dream come true
22:55 "and some lovely roof clipping"
I laughed so hard I almost choked on my lunch at my break.
At first I though the attic bedroom in The Van Gould mansion may have been meant for a butler, but then again it's just too creepy for it not to be intentional. I looks like a prison cell or a dungeon cell.
One think I'm sure though, the name Moonlight Falls was definetely a reference to The Vampire Diaries' Mystic Falls
Name reference, as well as another vampires vs werewolves reference too.
Actually it makes sense that Waylon is Jacob, especially if you read the first book. I remembered that Jacob had the same hairstyle and stuff. He was also very calm and like a little brother to Bella. And then Jacob disappeared then changed.
not sure if this has been said, but the train set & door in the attic, plus the description suggesting you may not be able to leave, could be references to Beetlejuice?
There are some obvious references to Twilight, but this pack came out when I was a teenager obsessed with The Vampire Diaries... And let me tell you, most of the stories are from that show! Starting from the town's name Moonlight Falls (Mystic Falls in TVD), and the town hall with the clocktower is identical to the one on the show! Anyway, awesome video as always :) I remember playing in the Van Gould mansion with a family that I made and I used the attic bedroom as the live-in-housekeepers room! She was a witch and the family living there were vampires :D
I always played the Rodgers and Hoppcraft families. They have a really cool story.
I always play a family, I forgot their name but they are based on the Weasleys from Harry Potter
@@Sirens_kai The MacDuff family. Total lip service to the Weasleys, LOL
Supernatural has always been my favourite pack throughout the entire Sims franchise. I can't play the sims 3 anymore due to my computer practically falling apart, but I can't wait until I can enjoy it again. Thank you for this video, it brought back so many lovely memories!
I like to play with every household in the SIms 3 in different saves so I can see their POVS. I especially do this with Moonlight falls.
2:30 love how dude on the left legit tripped over nothing lmao
Their story is also derivative of the Sunset Valley struggle between the Goths and the Landgraabs over who founded the town.
Altos and Landgraabs
Not sure who these families are exactly based on, but the name of the town and the layout is 100% a reference to Mystic Falls from tv show "the vampire diaries". Even the bridge in Moonlight Falls looks eerie similar to the one Elena Gilbert drove off and almost died. It also had conflict between vampires and werewolves, but it's a pretty common theme in pop culture.
So excited to see all the videos about this town! 🤗 It is filled with references to all kinds of supernatural shows.
She drove off the bridge?
In Moonlight Falls there is a car next to the bridge in the water...
Despite the twilight references in the sims living there, Moonlight Falls looks more like Mystic Falls from the Vampire Diaries TV show, which it also has a similar name too, I kinda wish we had more variety in the character references, sure we've got Bewitched, a small Charmed and a slight True Blood reference (one in a game mechanic not just characters) but it would have been nice if those references were a bit deeper and we had more, like a Sabrina (original since Chilling Adventures wasn't a thing at the time) and a Vampire Dairies or maybe some references to less well known media and books like Vampire Academy or House of Night. Still my favourite town to play in, Moonlight Falls is utterly beautiful and even if you strip everything away to build it up from scratch, it still maintains that mystical feeling.
I’m so excited.
As much as I like vampires I think the Wolff house looks better, but I’m sucker for 1970s home aesthetics.
Currently doing a play through of supernatural and it honestly might be one of my favorite sims 3 packs! The world is so stunning and nostalgic with all the twilight references and all the occults in one single town just makes for so much fun and chaotic gameplay! It’s even more chaotic when you put one of each occult in one household and just see what happens which is what I’m doing!
Ah my favorite town and my favorite rivalry in all of the sims
Moonlight Falls. My most favourite Sims 3 wold and one of my two most favourite premade worlds/neighbourhoods in the whole series (the other being Strangetown in Sims 2). Interestingly, before Supernatural, I never liked the supernatural lifestates in Sims series, I tried to avoid them, actually. I don't know what, but something in this EP made me love them. Nowadays, most of my gameplays in Sims 3 involves supernaturals and most of them are in Moonlight Falls. So, I am looking forward to see more about this world.
Moonlight Falls is one of my fav towns, in addition to Bridgeport.
There’s also a custom world called Fortress Rock that I recommend Simmers look up and download. It requires many stuff packs and expansions, but doesn’t have cc.
I think you should talk about the Swain family next because its very obvious Bailey Swain is designated as a love interest for Tristan. The Swain family could not be a clearer reference to the Swan family.
Oddly enough, when I've played Sunset Valley in the past, Thornton has, on multiple occasions, ended up being a werewolf. 🤔
the room in the attic is (imo) most likely for a human familiar! basically a human slave that may or may not be promised to be a vampire.
I've got issues- I immediately went "Oh like twilight" as soon as u mentioned the families had a rivalry-
Pappy: *is a technophobe*
Also Pappy: *loves electronic music*
Make it make sense Sims 3
Moonlight Falls remains my favourite town
La Shove Beach: La Push in Forks, Washington 🤣
absolutely my favorite town AND families to play!
Oh I love this Town~ Erica Wolff is a badass granny in my save file now 😅Aww I've spent so much time with these sims
ah, I have nraas story progression installed, and the Van Gould-Wolff family is quite big in my save file :)
Wolffs: okay let's give our first two children fancy names. The baby? Ah let's call him Gator
I ADORE moonlight falls! So excited for more! Amazing video!
I clicked so fast! I play this world quite a bit. Im pretty hyped forbthe lore!
This is everything I needed for the evening of this less than good day!
If the Van Goulds have lived in the town for centuries, the creepy attic room could just be an old servant bedroom. Live-in servants having a room directly under the roof was pretty common in old mansions, and it would fit the Van Gould's old money backstory.
But Ayden having hypnothized prisoners in the attic is a super creepy theory. And the room being an old servant quarter wouldn't even torpedoe it.
Moonlight falls has been my fav world since it came out...i love the premades from here
moonlight falls is my all time favorite sims world (i won’t lie, partially because of twilight lol!), i’m so happy to see you shifting over to it! can’t wait to hear more about its lore :)
Due to slower aging and the presence of the Summerdream family, I have a theory that Moonlight Falls is set before Sunset Valley and even before Twinbrook. Titania and Oberon have weird ages (one is older than the other in Sims 2, but in MF they swapped who's older), but despite that both are younger than their Sims 2 versions and don't have kids yet. Sims 3 fairies have a lifespan 5x longer than a regular sim. It only makes sense to have Moonlight Falls being set like 50 or even 100 years in the past in relation to Sims 2... that would explain why the connection between SV Wolffs and MF Wolffs is pretty "loose" in the lore, there's probably a lot of people in the family tree between Waylon and Thornton. I just don't understand how the Goths ended up there... Frida died too old, i think she wouldn't even been born. Idk haha its all wonky.
I agree
omg, i was literally gonna ask if you could make a video on this feud, i love playing in moonlight falls and i love its lore, thank you queen !
I don't get it. It's been almost a week and this video didn't even reach 20k views. Why? Your content is SO interesting! I never thought that Sims (though I play it for 19 years) had this much lore! I wish your channel to be more popular in sims community! ♥ ♥ ♥
Hahah I know, the algorithm hates me 😌😬💕
Plot twist the goodfellows found the town as they could of been living there before moonlight falls was a town
I thought Moonlight Falls is a reference to Mystic Fall from the Vampire diaries
I've waited for moonlight falls lore!
IT'S FINALLY HERE! ❤🧛♂️🐺❤
I want you to know that I clicked "like" on the video right after the "fangtastic" pun. I usually give a "like" when there's less than a minute left, but this was too good to wait until the end.
Also, Waylon has a special place in my heart, because his clone, Cloylon, became the father of my heir in my Lepacy Challenge. Ever since his genes got involved in my family, we ended up with four generations of fantastic jawlines.
I’ve played in the Van Gould’s house and I knew about the basement but had no idea there was a 3rd floor ?!? My mind is blown rn 🤯
I love the Moonlight Falls lore! It's one of my favorites towns that I play very often. One of my legacies is a witch who was married to Mike Nix but was deeply attracted to Waylon Wolff (after his age up). They are engaged and have 2 children together, and Waylon is an awesome dad. He's super attentive and always wants to practice the painting skill. I think Emelie Van Gould skipped town in my game 😂
Sims 3 is so good
You have no idea how long I was waiting for this episode XD I loved playing with these two families. Also Genies came with Showtime not Supernatural.
i love your videos so much! my sister and i recently got the sims 3 and we made ourselves as supernatural sims so we moved into moonlight falls! (i’m a witch, she’s a fairy)
damn im early, i was about to go to sleep bcuz i hv exam later but i m gonna watch this first. wish me luck!
Good luck on your exam!!! 💖💖 🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀 Take this good luck!!
"Misty valleys of the pacific northwest". Love seeing the area I call home referenced on this channel. Washington state 🌲❤
Moonlight falls is so much fun to play in idc what anyone says its underrated
Nice vid!!
that was the first town i ever played in the pc version of TS3
when i was 14 i starded playing this game pirately with 21 packs for like.. 3 months i believe..?
(i literally got a lot of content in my first day at the sims 3 in PC and i won't forget how freaked the f**k out)
i do remember that i moved a small family inspired by a Disney tv cartoon show called "Gravity Falls" in that town
y'know because that town was full of mysterious shites and it's almost like Moonlight Falls!
it's good to see this town again:)
My favorite world of all time!!!! Thank you so much!
Ugh we need the Sims 3 back
omg i want more moonlight falls lore
I believe the attic room was indeed bonehilda's bedroom, maybe she owned it before she died?
Thanks that you saw my suggestion and honestly I love your perspective about this topic as an intro to Moonlight Falls. I've written a fictional story about this in my story and you just gave me enough clarity to revise it. Waiting for your next video about this Amazing town. Vadish! xoxo
love these videos so much 💜 i moved the moonlight falls wolffs into sunset valley and its been very cute !!
LOVE THIS!!! Did you know there is a tv show called Moonlight about an vampire detective lol but the show midnight Texas reminds me of this town! thank you sooo much for doing this!!
I literally always play as the vangould, they're skills increases SO FAST
The Sims 4 could never
This family would be hard to play with Gater and the new mod that toodlers can make a mess.
Istg last night I was playing this town and thinking “this would be a great vid for the sims lore”
These sims 3 lore is sooo nostalgic. I have every single store world (they all came with soooooo much lore) and all the expansions. I've been on a Sims 4 kick because....the nodding community is so great. But I really miss the pre built lore in Sims 3. I kinda wanna boot it up soon and play around lucky palms with all those hidden pregnancies and cheating situations 😂 I've been having to make my OWN lore in Sims 4. ❤
This channel is a gem 💎 I love the Sims 3 lore stories, they're very underrated. Glad to see people still covering them!
Yooo, this is incredible!!! I need to play Van Goulds now, the house is so amazing! Thank you for this Moonlight Falls content
I played them. I had Tristan marry my CAS vampire sim and they had two kids, both close to their grandpa and auntie Emelie. :3
This video made me feel better for adopting Waylon into my family, giving him a shave, cool clothing, and a hairstyle (though he decided to keep the sandals!)
He's now a rockstar, which was his lifetime wish and he's grown apart from the other Wolffs. He's still a werewolf, I guess that's something you just can't get rid of by drinking a potion! Maybe it's time to pay a visit to his family and try to have a healthy relationship with them...
If he drinks a Potent Cure potion then he'd become a human.
Right on time ❤️🙏
I'm the only one who thinks that Moonlight Falls are a little similar to Gravity Falls?
dude! i made a family inspired by that tv show into that town!
Aaah, Moonlight Falls! I'm so happy, can't wait to watch this video at the end of work today.
I definitely think Waylon is meant to look more like book Jacob than movie Jacob. In the book (and technically the movie but he still looked hot) Jacob had that long hair and looked really plain when he was young, but got a glow up because werewolf. There really wasn’t that Edward v Jacob in the book, it was always really Edward, so Jacob was much more of a side character that Bella just saw as a little kid and never really considered that much. I’m not sure if this expansion was before or after the movies, but if it was before then it definitely makes sense that he’d look like that (can’t really explain his face tho lol Jacob was always described as baby faced until like halfway in)
Genies actually didn't come with this pack. They came with the sims 3 showtime. This does seem like the kind of world that would have them though.