Having not touched an Atari ST for 30 years now, I still can feel my thumb resting on the case top grill, index finger on the eject or reset button, middle finger pushing the disk, together with the resonances of the drive spinning, simply just by watching.
This is the exact reason why I have been very resistant to fitting Goteks! I still have a bunch of goteks from wayback when somebody figured out how to re-flash them, just never actually installed them. I am going to hang onto disks until I have none left! As for nostalgia, I can even remember the smell of an ST when it has been on for hours, the psu inside makes the case warm. There is something about the case plastic on these machines. The Amiga has its own smell but the Atari seems to be more noticeable :)
I think Gotek's have their place. For me it was early in my vintage Atari collecting and I wanted a quick way to try new software. The Gotek offered that...since then I've come into possession of many many floppy disks and the means to easily write software images to them. I love the way they feel "clunking" them into the drive.
I copied a C128 cp/m disk image from my laptop on 3,5" disk, to my Commodore PC-10 III to copy it to a 5,25" floppy. That was fun! I really love to play on original hardware instead of emulators. The feel and noise is so much better.
Just listen to the different sounds an Amiga drive makes compared to an ST drive. I still think It's so amazing that the sounds are so individual for the computer almost like It's own language. I wonder how different the 1581 sounded from the others?
hello. You have to test drawbridge too. i make one and is good. i would like to access directly in a amiga a floppy interface with grease weazle. where do you leave? i m french. and i finish dungeon master and chaos strike back. and i love rick dangerous👍
do you know how to emulate the apple mac 68000 on the amiga 1200 ?? what emulators are there ?? i know of shapeshifter but it’s not that good do you know of any?? thanks
I cannot for the life of me get my Gotek running as a B drive for my Atari 1040STE. What jumpet settings and config did you use, if you don't mind me asking?
Have you tried setting the jumper on the Gotek to S1 instead of S0 (typical for internal / boot drive)? In the video I used it with my 520ST with two external drives. I just tested with my 1040STF with an internal drive just to make certain it also works that way too...and it does. Also tried with my 1040ste that has an internal Gotek to verify it works with two goteks and it worked that way as well (the internal gotek set as S0) Let me know if the S1 jumper setting works for you!
I've tried setting jumper S0, S1, S0 and MO, and S1 and MO. All to no avail. I've also tried using a friend's STFM, his Gotek, his Gotek lead, and ultimately he too has the same problem. I'm wondering if it's something to do when with the fact that my Gotek is slightly more modern and has a rotary dial. 🤔
@@technickuk how are you connecting the Gotek to the Atari? The Gotek in the video here is my newest one. I just didn't add the rotary encoder or the OLED screen to this one. The one installed in my STe as S0 is about 3-4 years old'ish. I'll pry open my enclosure (it's glued) and verify all the jumper settings.
Using the Greaseweazel you are actually copying the magnetic "flux" and not individual data points. Think of it as the difference between copying the words of a book versus simply replicating all the lines and shapes that make up the letters of the book. This captures the copy protection perfectly and thus you can copy the entire disk image (in the HFE image type).
I have a blitz cable I made back in the 90's probably the fastest way that copies anything. Greasweisle is the other option. Some other copy programs work to beat various firms of copy protection. MSA etc.
You say 'I'll just make a copy, for me and a friend' Then he'll make one and she'll make one and where will it end? One leads to another then ten, then more, And no one buys anything from the store So no one gets paid and they can't make more The posse breaks up and they close the door Don't copy! Don't copy that floppy!
yes, this was what enabled our access to huge plethora of software back in 80s and early 90s, and yes this was the reason for home computers software demise. Is also the reason why ATARI ST suffered under low new games releases more then other systems like Amiga or C64, too many people having ST were very tech savvy and the moment the game/program came out, it got cracked and distributed... The only protection was a hw dongle back then...
Status LED's would be a cool future add! The buttons are really needed just for reflashing the firmware, and you'll need to plug in the micro-usb port anyways for that (and open up the case too).
Not sure. I haven’t tried. I’ll give a try later this week. Interesting idea. I think there are people using 3.5in floppies with 130xe’s and other Atari 8-bit computers….hmmm
Whoops set it as a "premiere". Sorry bout that.
Having not touched an Atari ST for 30 years now, I still can feel my thumb resting on the case top grill, index finger on the eject or reset button, middle finger pushing the disk, together with the resonances of the drive spinning, simply just by watching.
This is the exact reason why I have been very resistant to fitting Goteks! I still have a bunch of goteks from wayback when somebody figured out how to re-flash them, just never actually installed them. I am going to hang onto disks until I have none left! As for nostalgia, I can even remember the smell of an ST when it has been on for hours, the psu inside makes the case warm. There is something about the case plastic on these machines. The Amiga has its own smell but the Atari seems to be more noticeable :)
I think Gotek's have their place. For me it was early in my vintage Atari collecting and I wanted a quick way to try new software. The Gotek offered that...since then I've come into possession of many many floppy disks and the means to easily write software images to them. I love the way they feel "clunking" them into the drive.
I copied a C128 cp/m disk image from my laptop on 3,5" disk, to my Commodore PC-10 III to copy it to a 5,25" floppy. That was fun!
I really love to play on original hardware instead of emulators. The feel and noise is so much better.
Agreed. It's all part of the nostalgia.
yes original is the best still why people use emulators i understand at times
more info is always good to have thanks again
This is just what I needed! Very helpful. Thanks !!
Thanks for the previous feedback
Just listen to the different sounds an Amiga drive makes compared to an ST drive. I still think It's so amazing that the sounds are so individual for the computer almost like It's own language. I wonder how different the 1581 sounded from the others?
The sound also varies from game to game as well.
Great video!
Thank you!!! 🤘🏻🖖🏻
TOSEC = The Old School Emulation Center
Thank you!! I bet there is a story behind the name there as well.
hello. You have to test drawbridge too. i make one and is good.
i would like to access directly in a amiga a floppy interface with grease weazle. where do you leave? i m french. and i finish dungeon master and chaos strike back. and i love rick dangerous👍
I’ll have to take a look at drawbridge!
do you know how to emulate the apple mac 68000 on the amiga 1200 ?? what emulators are there ?? i know of shapeshifter but it’s not that good do you know of any?? thanks
I haven't tried Mac emulation on the Amiga, but have done it on the Atari ST / Atari Falcon. That's covered in my Marchintosh video :)
I cannot for the life of me get my Gotek running as a B drive for my Atari 1040STE. What jumpet settings and config did you use, if you don't mind me asking?
Have you tried setting the jumper on the Gotek to S1 instead of S0 (typical for internal / boot drive)?
In the video I used it with my 520ST with two external drives.
I just tested with my 1040STF with an internal drive just to make certain it also works that way too...and it does.
Also tried with my 1040ste that has an internal Gotek to verify it works with two goteks and it worked that way as well (the internal gotek set as S0)
Let me know if the S1 jumper setting works for you!
I've tried setting jumper S0, S1, S0 and MO, and S1 and MO. All to no avail. I've also tried using a friend's STFM, his Gotek, his Gotek lead, and ultimately he too has the same problem. I'm wondering if it's something to do when with the fact that my Gotek is slightly more modern and has a rotary dial. 🤔
@@technickuk how are you connecting the Gotek to the Atari? The Gotek in the video here is my newest one. I just didn't add the rotary encoder or the OLED screen to this one. The one installed in my STe as S0 is about 3-4 years old'ish.
I'll pry open my enclosure (it's glued) and verify all the jumper settings.
@@technickuk send me an email to my channel contact info. I can share some photos of the jumper settings and connection used to connect to the ST.
what if a floppy disk is copy protected ?? then how do you copy it ?? thanks
Using the Greaseweazel you are actually copying the magnetic "flux" and not individual data points. Think of it as the difference between copying the words of a book versus simply replicating all the lines and shapes that make up the letters of the book. This captures the copy protection perfectly and thus you can copy the entire disk image (in the HFE image type).
I have a blitz cable I made back in the 90's probably the fastest way that copies anything. Greasweisle is the other option.
Some other copy programs work to beat various firms of copy protection. MSA etc.
You say 'I'll just make a copy, for me and a friend'
Then he'll make one and she'll make one and where will it end?
One leads to another then ten, then more,
And no one buys anything from the store
So no one gets paid and they can't make more
The posse breaks up and they close the door
Don't copy! Don't copy that floppy!
You have it down!
yes, this was what enabled our access to huge plethora of software back in 80s and early 90s, and yes this was the reason for home computers software demise. Is also the reason why ATARI ST suffered under low new games releases more then other systems like Amiga or C64, too many people having ST were very tech savvy and the moment the game/program came out, it got cracked and distributed... The only protection was a hw dongle back then...
Hey what about the reset and boot select buttons plus the status LED's ?? The other case in thingy caters for those
Status LED's would be a cool future add! The buttons are really needed just for reflashing the firmware, and you'll need to plug in the micro-usb port anyways for that (and open up the case too).
can you make floppy disks from 400 k and 800 k disc images too ? on atari st discs ? thanks
Not sure. I haven’t tried. I’ll give a try later this week. Interesting idea. I think there are people using 3.5in floppies with 130xe’s and other Atari 8-bit computers….hmmm