I heat the piece with just a regular butane torch, doesn't have to be glowing, just to the point were it naturally darkens a bit then quench in old used engine oil. For larger pieces that you can't dip just heat as much as you can and dab the oil on with soaked rags. Works a treat every time.
@stukyu your on the money. In a large scale fastener shop we heat them to 400c drop them in oil. Gloss you leave them in, mat you quick dunk (very smokey). One day, a client sent a competitors fastener which was sold to them as "super black". We have a full on lab that spectro analysed the coating, it was the same as ours only the competitor had thrown black ink in their oil. Considering the blackening process is meant to be an organic oxide protection, the black ink was just a hustle, no surprise then our competitor was based in China. My home forge projects I use oil/ink blackening and clear coat with bees wax.
I've watched a plethora of your videos and loved each one. This one made me want to be there helping! Did you think of using Evapoust for the rusty chains? You just soak them in a bucket of it? for a while, then take them out, rinse them off, and let them dry. If you leave them long enough, they turn black, too. It's great stuff that can be reused for project after project until it just doesn't work anymore. I did a bucket of nails that were bonded together with rust, having sat outside in a bucket of rainwater for a couple of years. They separated and turned black, and were strong and usable after 4 hours of soaking. Anyway, keep up the great builds, and have fun!
Tay , I have a suggestion on cleaning up rusted parts or even bare metal... Consider a small sandblasting booth? Loving your shop. I have been a Machinist for 48 years and just about to retire. FYI.
Tay and the gang. Congratulations well deserved. here's to many more great opportunites and adventures ahead for you guys. This lamp turned out very unique and beautiful design. Hopefully this future owners enjoy it for many years to come. Can't wait to see more videos soon my friends. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friends. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Making. God bless.
Jax is perfect gun blueing/blackening. Also perfect to use on diy machine tools like lathe tool holders and such. You need almost polished finish and clean it very good to get the best results. Also congrats with passing 7K subscribers
Keep up the good work! I have been diggin your channel, it's been enjoyable watching someone else progressively find creative answers to their problems until the project is finally completed. I was feeling your pain while cleaning those chains, and even more so because if you would have dipped them back in the (muriatic acid(Hydrochloric acid) that you originally had them in, they would have almost immediately gone back to being super bright white and clean. From the few times I've played around I've found that if you can immediately go from the acid bath to dipping in a bath of backing soda water and then immediately dry with an air nozzle that oxidation stays to a minimum, I'll oil it right away if its not being painted or finished right away. Good luck in your endeavors with Lift Arc 👍👍
I certainly hope your customer appreciates the about of planning, fabricating and the finish product you are able to construct. I really enjoy the skill you put into the videos and have taken a lot of your technics and applied them to projects I'm planning and or constructing. Keep up the good work Big Guy!
HAHAHA. I thought you meant the castle of A. Camartera. I don't really know my way around the USA. I think it is really well done. Good work. Greetings from Germany
You have a very nice approach to your productions. I enjoy watching very much especially the one where you moved into your shop. Great choice on your approach to wiring. I hate bare stranded wires under screws. Solder and shrink tube is best approach. All in all very nice job. Oh yea, the montage's are great.
I honestly can't tell you how I stumbled upon your channel, but I'm loving the content. I've been binging most of what you've produced the last year and I'm laughing my ass off at times :) Keep it up!
With some of those metal blackeners, you can actually make it even darker and richer by adding a thin coat of light oil, often times it leaves the surface slightly porous and it soaks up the oil really nicely
I have had the same experience trying to blacken metal seams for art glass. The blackening chemical, lead oxide (Pb√2O), reacts with the metal for what should make a more integral and permanent color than a superfucial coat. In practice, I felt lead coating looked dirty rather than aged. It rubbed off thoroughly even after time spent drying. In contrast to lead oxide's poor man's black, I adore the copper patina from copper sulfate. Your matte coating pivot perfectly filled the fine lady's need. If I find myself in need of blackening in the future, I will try some of the intriguing approaches from commenters here.
Hey Tay, I doubt you'll see this on this older video. But thought I'd share my experience with M20 Blackening chemical similar to that Jax you used. It is a corrosive chemical as you noticed. When a customer requested something to be BLACK I would do a couple "coats" of M20 let it dry to a point I could add black wax before it would rust. Allow the wax to dry then cover it with matte lacquer. Hope this helps.
I was watching Alec Steele's wrench video the other day. He used a technique of heating the metal to progress it through it's different oxidation states (straw, blue, purple, then black). Might be method to try in the future.
The blackening agents we get here in India require soaking for 10+ minutes. I've seen some that require electrolasis and many that require heated baths. Cold blackening is fewer and further inbetween. Read the page on Wikipedia for blackening...it provides some good detail on the process. I have a rust converter that blackens rust emediately. My issue is most my stuff isn't rusted. Would have worked on your chain though.
So often on this channel I'm seeing things done for the first time-- Learning about the intricacies of metal work. It feels kind of odd to watch you do something I've experimented with & developed methods to do over the last 25 years. Yep, cleaning chain with a brush is a royal pain. If you need to do it again, let the chain scrub itself...as in, rub the chain links figurously, so the chain links are the abrasive. I put them in can or bowl and hand "tumble" them. Not sure it takes less time or effort, but it seems to be less tedious.
Say for cleaning up mill scale and rust have you tried vinegar? It works wonders and just eats it off. I wonder if the blackener would have worked well on the bare metal.
I’m a newcomer to your channel and just caught up on the chandelier build. I had a thought and wondered if it would work. Could you have blackened the fixtures with acetylene and then clear coated or epoxied them? Just curious.
It came out beautiful....but why ruin it with a cheap rattle can paint job? There are SO many metal finishing products that can give you a patina and you can clear certikote over it to protect the finish from UV light and from handling. To me, a patina finish with satin or semi-gloss clearcoat would have came out better. The rattle can job simply spoils all the hard work you did. If the customer was insistant about getting a satin black paint, then to me, powdercoating would have been way easier for you and much more durable or if you have no choice but to paint it, then you can use an industrial paint like PPG Americoat 770
she wanted the fixture to hang lower. you defensively said ' hey its 32'' that's what we decided'. I did not like that answer and would be dissatisfied if i were the customer , take the comment to heart.
You seem to have misunderstood what the lady said and the context of how it was meant. She said "I dont think its to low". and to paraphrase it so some can understand it better. she meant, "it doesnt seem to be too low, as i thought i might be before seeing it up there". and from Tay, "that is the height we had agreed on and it appears to be the perfect height for it". perhaps you should rewatch moments like that again so to double check things before making such a comment, because you have now been called out by Tay and Walker for making your negative comment of something that was misinterpreted. Forever memorialized as a Douche.
@@paulmccullough7352 yes, old Jim needs to watch it again. She definitely says “Well, I don’t think it’s too low” meaning she doesn’t think it’s too low. To make the comment without actually checking to see what she really said, well, I would be dissatisfied with your attention to the video and would hope that your comment wasn’t taken to heart🙄
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I love those lights, they fit that room perfectly!
Very nice and another satisfied customer.
Wow, those turned out great! Really love the medieval look!
Really great install they look great and so perfect in that amazing house. Nice one, stay safe J.
They fit the room perfectly.
I heat the piece with just a regular butane torch, doesn't have to be glowing, just to the point were it naturally darkens a bit then quench in old used engine oil. For larger pieces that you can't dip just heat as much as you can and dab the oil on with soaked rags. Works a treat every time.
Fantastic idea. Thanks!
@stukyu your on the money. In a large scale fastener shop we heat them to 400c drop them in oil. Gloss you leave them in, mat you quick dunk (very smokey). One day, a client sent a competitors fastener which was sold to them as "super black". We have a full on lab that spectro analysed the coating, it was the same as ours only the competitor had thrown black ink in their oil. Considering the blackening process is meant to be an organic oxide protection, the black ink was just a hustle, no surprise then our competitor was based in China. My home forge projects I use oil/ink blackening and clear coat with bees wax.
Those turned out really well!
I've watched a plethora of your videos and loved each one. This one made me want to be there helping! Did you think of using Evapoust for the rusty chains? You just soak them in a bucket of it? for a while, then take them out, rinse them off, and let them dry. If you leave them long enough, they turn black, too. It's great stuff that can be reused for project after project until it just doesn't work anymore. I did a bucket of nails that were bonded together with rust, having sat outside in a bucket of rainwater for a couple of years. They separated and turned black, and were strong and usable after 4 hours of soaking. Anyway, keep up the great builds, and have fun!
Excellent job, Tay! She was truly in love with her new fixtures. Like I said before, your channel will soon explode! Keep up your great work!
I’m very glad I found your channel it’s great down to earth no fake drama just good old hard work by talented people…👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Congratulations
You do a great job !!
Nice Job as always Tay.
Had those candle light hurts your eyes after a few days. Nice work.
Wow those look great!! Great job!!!
Tay , I have a suggestion on cleaning up rusted parts or even bare metal... Consider a small sandblasting booth?
Loving your shop. I have been a Machinist for 48 years and just about to retire. FYI.
You need a Coal forge and a good anvil for this kind of work.i liked the video. New subscriber
Tay and the gang. Congratulations well deserved. here's to many more great opportunites and adventures ahead for you guys. This lamp turned out very unique and beautiful design. Hopefully this future owners enjoy it for many years to come. Can't wait to see more videos soon my friends. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friends. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Making. God bless.
Was looking forward to this install all week. Great work. They turned out great.
Jax is perfect gun blueing/blackening.
Also perfect to use on diy machine tools like lathe tool holders and such.
You need almost polished finish and clean it very good to get the best results.
Also congrats with passing 7K subscribers
Heavy duty cool!
Keep up the good work! I have been diggin your channel, it's been enjoyable watching someone else progressively find creative answers to their problems until the project is finally completed.
I was feeling your pain while cleaning those chains, and even more so because if you would have dipped them back in the (muriatic acid(Hydrochloric acid) that you originally had them in, they would have almost immediately gone back to being super bright white and clean.
From the few times I've played around I've found that if you can immediately go from the acid bath to dipping in a bath of backing soda water and then immediately dry with an air nozzle that oxidation stays to a minimum, I'll oil it right away if its not being painted or finished right away.
Good luck in your endeavors with Lift Arc 👍👍
Awesome lights
I certainly hope your customer appreciates the about of planning, fabricating and the finish product you are able to construct. I really enjoy the skill you put into the videos and have taken a lot of your technics and applied them to projects I'm planning and or constructing. Keep up the good work Big Guy!
Great Job!!!!
sculpt nouveau makes amazing patina salts/acids for doing patina work.
HAHAHA. I thought you meant the castle of A. Camartera. I don't really know my way around the USA. I think it is really well done. Good work. Greetings from Germany
You have a very nice approach to your productions. I enjoy watching very much especially the one where you moved into your shop. Great choice on your approach to wiring. I hate bare stranded wires under screws. Solder and shrink tube is best approach. All in all very nice job. Oh yea, the montage's are great.
It funny your amazed with 6k I’m watching 5 months later with 26k keep growing it’s a fun watch.👍 have a 🍺
I honestly can't tell you how I stumbled upon your channel, but I'm loving the content. I've been binging most of what you've produced the last year and I'm laughing my ass off at times :) Keep it up!
With some of those metal blackeners, you can actually make it even darker and richer by adding a thin coat of light oil, often times it leaves the surface slightly porous and it soaks up the oil really nicely
I have had the same experience trying to blacken metal seams for art glass. The blackening chemical, lead oxide (Pb√2O), reacts with the metal for what should make a more integral and permanent color than a superfucial coat. In practice, I felt lead coating looked dirty rather than aged. It rubbed off thoroughly even after time spent drying. In contrast to lead oxide's poor man's black, I adore the copper patina from copper sulfate.
Your matte coating pivot perfectly filled the fine lady's need. If I find myself in need of blackening in the future, I will try some of the intriguing approaches from commenters here.
Nice video, thanks :)
Great video guys that chandelier looks amazing fantastic work and skills and congratulations on the subscribers going up well deserved 👍👍
Hey Tay, I doubt you'll see this on this older video. But thought I'd share my experience with M20 Blackening chemical similar to that Jax you used. It is a corrosive chemical as you noticed. When a customer requested something to be BLACK I would do a couple "coats" of M20 let it dry to a point I could add black wax before it would rust. Allow the wax to dry then cover it with matte lacquer. Hope this helps.
I was watching Alec Steele's wrench video the other day. He used a technique of heating the metal to progress it through it's different oxidation states (straw, blue, purple, then black). Might be method to try in the future.
The blackening agents we get here in India require soaking for 10+ minutes. I've seen some that require electrolasis and many that require heated baths. Cold blackening is fewer and further inbetween.
Read the page on Wikipedia for blackening...it provides some good detail on the process.
I have a rust converter that blackens rust emediately. My issue is most my stuff isn't rusted. Would have worked on your chain though.
New subscriber. Just watched the shop build 4 hr version. Did you make the fleur de lees? Amazing fixture!!
So often on this channel I'm seeing things done for the first time-- Learning about the intricacies of metal work. It feels kind of odd to watch you do something I've experimented with & developed methods to do over the last 25 years. Yep, cleaning chain with a brush is a royal pain. If you need to do it again, let the chain scrub itself...as in, rub the chain links figurously, so the chain links are the abrasive. I put them in can or bowl and hand "tumble" them. Not sure it takes less time or effort, but it seems to be less tedious.
Would a cement mixer work for your tumbler idea?
Be interesting to see if you made something to run on propane for patio use only.
Say for cleaning up mill scale and rust have you tried vinegar? It works wonders and just eats it off. I wonder if the blackener would have worked well on the bare metal.
I worked for stanley tools and we used a process called black oxide which basically plated a black coating on tools instead of chrome.
I’m a newcomer to your channel and just caught up on the chandelier build. I had a thought and wondered if it would work. Could you have blackened the fixtures with acetylene and then clear coated or epoxied them? Just curious.
I oxide parts at my job. We sandblast everything 1st. Blow the blasting media off and put it in the oxide tank.
Would have been anice touch to drip candle wax on to the light cylinders then paint them.
You should have used timber lock screws
High temp stove paint is very flat .
People enjoy talent when they see it.Candles aren`t usually black, just sayin.
they are supposed to look like candles, why paint them black? other than that excellent work.
It came out beautiful....but why ruin it with a cheap rattle can paint job? There are SO many metal finishing products that can give you a patina and you can clear certikote over it to protect the finish from UV light and from handling. To me, a patina finish with satin or semi-gloss clearcoat would have came out better. The rattle can job simply spoils all the hard work you did. If the customer was insistant about getting a satin black paint, then to me, powdercoating would have been way easier for you and much more durable or if you have no choice but to paint it, then you can use an industrial paint like PPG Americoat 770
she wanted the fixture to hang lower. you defensively said ' hey its 32'' that's what we decided'. I did not like that answer and would be dissatisfied if i were the customer , take the comment to heart.
You seem to have misunderstood what the lady said and the context of how it was meant. She said "I dont think its to low". and to paraphrase it so some can understand it better. she meant, "it doesnt seem to be too low, as i thought i might be before seeing it up there". and from Tay, "that is the height we had agreed on and it appears to be the perfect height for it".
perhaps you should rewatch moments like that again so to double check things before making such a comment, because you have now been called out by Tay and Walker for making your negative comment of something that was misinterpreted. Forever memorialized as a Douche.
@@paulmccullough7352 yes, old Jim needs to watch it again. She definitely says “Well, I don’t think it’s too low” meaning she doesn’t think it’s too low. To make the comment without actually checking to see what she really said, well, I would be dissatisfied with your attention to the video and would hope that your comment wasn’t taken to heart🙄