Pigeon Racing For Beginners. part 1 (Ep 53)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- How to start racing pigeons. Whether it's for $20,000 in prize money, for the love of racing and competition, or just to spend time together with the family doing something other than watching TV or computer games. Here's how you can get started in the sport of racing pigeons. This isn't an exhaustive list, nor will it be entirely correct for your circumstances or region. But as there aren't many videos out there for the curious soon-to-be pigeon fancier I thought I'd put this together to help answer some of the common questions.
When I wanted to find out more about how to get started in racing pigeons I wasn't sure where to look, who to ask and what I needed to do. I'm far from an expert, but I wanted to share what I found in my first young bird season with anyone else who is looking to dip their toe in the fancy.
Feel free to comment with your own advice and please share this video with anyone who shows an interest in the sport. @officialrpra
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I raced pigeons for 20 years pigeon men tend to be the most generous charitable people genuine people around
Brilliant video explaining to people new to the sport in simple terms how things work. There isn't much out there to help new starters, a lot of these beginner guides out there require you to already know the basics. Cant wait for part 2
Great that you're doing this for prospective pigeon racers. It is kind of you to spend the time so that others might save a great deal of time and heartache. Thank you.
Thanks 👍
Well presented ... and ideal for the beginner or novice ....I look forward to part 2 ...
Great video .my dad was in this great sport for 40 years after I was given a white racing pigeon. That's how we started. My dad dad became the secretary of the club worked very hard .there were 60 members alll sorts of people different ages .in stone Staffordshire. But over years it got less and .less in 2021 it finished. . I realy think if there was sponsorship to cover costs and and for the top 10 players in the races .it would help the sport .Great video and your inthusisam is really good .it will hopefully help new people come to the sport..my dad's best race .1st from saints only 3 birds on the day very bad weather .4 year cock injured hi wottle completely ripped open and 3inch cut on his back my dad's mate stitched him up and made a complete recovery 34 mins infront of the other 2 bird s ..good memories .hopefully more people will start and maybe more clubs start . .keep up with your videos they are really good
Great video Dan,well done mate trying to get others involved.
It’s a lot to take in but this video is well put together and will give a good idea of cost etc.
Keep up the good work .👍
Great information, looking forward to part 2. Thank you
No problem
waiting sir,,watching from philliphines,,,also here last 3 laps of derby race,,,godbless sir
Super video. Thanks for sharing
Dang man , you really didn't miss any beginner questions
👍💪🙏 great video I love it you couldn’t have said it any better that is a lot of peoples mind trouble you released a lot of stress, including me😂😂
Thanks for the video.
Really informative, thank you for taking us on your racing pigeon journey. Best of luck in the races. Cheers 🍻
Thanks Mark
What a great video Dan!!! Very informative. You hit on all the points needed to be covered. You talked about the genuine good nature and giving the people in this sport are too. I’m in this sport just over one year and I’ve yet to pay for a bird. I’ve been loaned quality breeding stock and my mentors are just the best. And they don’t mind going over things more than once for this old guy!!
Greetings 🖖 from Canada 🇨🇦 Danny!!
lot of old flyers in how club but good flyers
west wales pigeon fed wales was one of the pigeon fed with up north combine
Really nice overview here. Well done!
Fantastic videos mate you are right it's hard on your own but when you get them coming it's a fantastic feeling I also started this year with the young birds and had birds gifted by local flyers keep up the great work.
Thanks. Which Fed are you flying with?
@@howtotrainyourpigeon I fly in the notts & Derby border my club is warsop flying club & I am a member of Clipstone.
@@chrislee2851 any relation to Pete?
@@howtotrainyourpigeon no mate his son chris flys in our club though and he kindly gift me some birds.
@@chrislee2851 Excellent. Good guys. Good luck!
Brilliant thank you, very interested in racing but didn't have a clue, really enjoyed watching.
Love the racers for years, so much fun.
I got cancer 1.5 year ago and I had enough time to do whatever I start watching pigeons video and now I love them but I had many problem.
I am from India and we don't have enough racing pigeon in India
Anybody who is selling them are too much expensive and In my state I think nobody have racing pigeon now. And I am poor I can't buy them so I am happy by watching them 😊
Thanks for the informative and encouraging video! I read Jim Jenner's fabulous book, "The Featherhood", and it really made me want to learn more about pigeon racing.
great advise i enjoy your videos i live in massachusetts usa but from Ireland i built my loft and got birds from a few flyers the club fees are nearly $1000 a yr here plus i need to buy a clock i need to build or buy a loft for stock birds or old birds before i get my teeth into racing but i really enjoy handling and training the birds
Wow! $1000?? 😮
What do you get for that? Assuming the prizes are better?
@@howtotrainyourpigeon I think the reason is because there aren’t a lot of flyers and they need to pay more money to keep the clubhouse open plus pay the driver to bring the birds to the liberation I don’t actually think you win any money
I see. How many members are in your club? Do you also pay birdage / per bird?
@@howtotrainyourpigeon prob 30 or so i’m not a member yet and I’ve only been to the club one or two times pigeon racing isn’t very popular over here anymoreI’m hoping to have my son fly as a junior and it will be free membership for him that way I only have to pay for a clock which is around $800
I'm sad that there's no part 2 to this yet. Really interesting and informative video, I hope you'll continue on with the second part as I'm dying to know more!
Great info ..well done 👍
Great video and contents, can’t wait for part 2.
Great video pal. Just what our sport needs
thank you for the information.
Interesting
Thank you.. ❤ looking for more videos on the training, dieting.
Great vid I’m in my 30’s too and just starting in the sport I have just finished converting my shed into a loft and have a fancier breeding me some young birds carnt wait to get goin best of luck to you for the next season 👍🏻
Such a great video
Thank you for your videos!
Thanks for watching 👍
Basket if for my first race today. We are trying young birds out in October November when peregrines won’t be so prevalent (we hope).
Where was the race?
We are plymouth club we raced from kingsdown twice and Yeovil today and so far the returns have been fantastic mate we have frome and marlboro next
@@MrTy1984 that's an interesting idea. Would be good to know the birdage from first race to last and how it compares to your (edit: the club's) previous years
@howtotrainyourpigeon We have been sending 400/500 a race so far and have really had good returns so far. I’ll ask at the club what birdage the last few years as it’s my first year racing. The theory is the peregrines are no longer raising young so aren’t as much of an issue as earlier in the year. The only issue is the moult
Very good, thank you.
i nice pigeon and loft
Great video :-)
my father is 86 years old i will be taking over from him one day i am 66 my brother was a good flyer on the south road so i am going to race the the birds myself
I’m a Canadian. Something about this interested me. Is there a Canadian club?
Probably mate. Try Google. I'll have a look myself just out of interest 👍
Can you fly pigeons just for fun or does it need to be in a race or for preparation to race ? I live in a remote area and have no racing clubs anywhere near me but I am very interested in flying them either way. Just want as much info before I start up
Sure you can do it for fun. If you want to race you can always enter the youngsters you breed into a good, well run and reputable one loft race
@@howtotrainyourpigeon absolutely once I’m a little clued up and have some nice healthy birds I imagine I’ll catch the bug and be wanting to race them. Loads of good info in your videos 👍 😂my girlfriend reply was “well at least it’s not been keeping”
Are you having troubles with hawks or falcons?
I have so much trouble because my young birds are too eagerly flying out when feeding and strong on wing because they are 2 months old. Then a hawk scares them and they fly around for 2 or 3 days. How do I get past this step. I know I should have started younger 😅 but now I have to deal with the situation. The hawk problem is why I didn't let them out younger. This hawk knows my schedule lol. It hasn't caught any, but that doesn't stop it from trying
Hi DAN,
Can you tell us in you're next video what you're plans are for this coming season please??, IE: loft final plans if you have finally decided to buy or build??. And young birds?, How many do you plan on buying to fit your new loft size with out over loading the sections?, As I've mentioned before if you have two perches per bird they will be happy and content, and seems yearlings are never to reliable breeding and rearing wise due to inexperience god only knows how many you will breed yourself??. And being friended birds is a lottery, how many will you get and when 🙄. Some lads will pair up early or mid December with stock birds, because there experienced and have lights and even heating in there stock loft.
You say you're undecided as such weather to buy stock bird's or not, if you buy 6-8-10 young birds off different "PROVEN" fanciers and they fly well for you well that's generally where you go back and "TRY" buy stock from, or buy a certain amount from them as youngsters and stock them as baby's, big aviary on the side of the stock section, and the chill sun bath there and never get out, them along out with the ones that flew for you and won or did well getting placed being consistent, they should be also stocked and bread from, buying stock birds and building a stock team doesn't happen over night, it generally takes years, unless you have thousands to spair yo go buy a whole stock team. I no guys that just buy young birds every year and breed from there old widow hood team and don't keep any stock birds at all, all depends on you're situation, if you have a partnership with a friend or family member, it obviously lightens the load. If you do have you're loft built in January I'm hoping you have you're first round in mid to late January early February at latest, and the second round a month later and so on, I suggested you split you're young birds up last season especially the late ones you got and keep them for the second half of the season, as the early ones started to drop off and bring in these as a B team, but u kept them you rushed the youngest, you lost them they got sick all because they where 2 young and immature, but as I told you last season it's all about mistakes and learning from them, in 30 years time u will be still learning, it's 1 of them sports.
Loft direction, is a bit of a funny topic, in Dublin lads believed it should face east, my loft was south east, as that's the direction my parents house faced, but it was also directly in the line of flight for all races unless we had a rare north west wind and the birds came in from the coast unlike all other winds the came generally inland, the fastest way as the crow flies.
Sorry about going on as usual, but like always I'm like a child waiting on Santa to come, 2 see what you're plans are on you're new loft or loft build, and you're plans on buying in new baby's to race.
PS: you said in you're last video you had untill march to decide witch you don't, as you can't be building a loft or getting one built while you're training or racing you're old birds, they will make strange, won't trap fast, and generally uneasy. Don't get me wrong, I've seen it done, but I highly recommend any1 not to do this, very bad idea, looking forward to your reply and plans.
Yours in sport DES
Hopefully I'll cover a lot of that in the next few videos. I'm still undecided so hoping to get 5 minutes to jot down some ideas soon 👍 cheers
Hey Des, did you have any issues with planning permission? Fingal Co Co recently told me I’d be wasting my money lodging a loft application as it’s most likely to be rejected.
@@stephenm8797 I haven't race in nearly 15 years, was no planning permission needed back then or the nearly 20 years I raced. This is obviously something new, and I'm blown away you need such a ting as planning permission, people just built a loft and No1 cared bar an odd neighbor not being happy, but lads still kept there loft, only time I seen any problems was when lads built a double decker loft and dident ask the neighbors was it ok, and rarely was that a problem, heard 1 or 2 stories about an odd neighbor saying 2 high you're going 2 be looking into my garden or to close to the house and a view into a bedroom kinda ting, must read up about this madness.
I think it be no harm 2 apply and see what is said, all you can be told is no at worse. I assume you are in a council house and that is the biggest problem bar a neighbor u don't get on with?
I just saved a pair of pigeon babies from pest control in my area a few years ago and was looking for videos on how to train them to come home and stumbled upon this awesome video! Wow, I did not know all of this! 🥹
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Nice overview! Good job 👍
@@MaydisLoft 👍
would you chat for a piece for The Guardian on pigeon keeping?
Possibly
Ok let me know, writing up next Tuesday so would need to talk today or tomorrow- no pressure either way
Hi mate any Chance you got some youngsters Im just start live near Nottingham .
@@sebastiankartony7628 unfortunately not. I bred mine in January
I’m from Mansfield and think that f doing this with my little lad
Go for it mate. Best sport for a young person. I started racing pigeons when I was around 9 and raced until I was 20. Wished I kept going, but 51 years on I'm looking to get back into the sport. I raced with my dad and had some great results including position in the combines. Good luck!!
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We're bouts in Nottinghamshire are you?
Ollerton way 👍
Nice one mate, it was also my first year racing here in the south of England, totally hooked now..hoping for a better result next year👍🏾 visit my Chanel when you can, again well done
Could you talk a bit more clearly and slowly? Very good
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Do you race at Ollerton House?
Not last year I didn't, but I'm a member
@@howtotrainyourpigeon might see you in 2023 I'm a member there I haven't sent this year but I'll do so in 2023, wish you all the best 👍
I am 13 years old and I have racing pigeons and kids in my school think it's weird
Most people try so hard to fit in when they're kids, then do anything to be different and unique as adults, so don't worry about what they think bud and do what you like 👍
Keep with it if you like it. after school years nobody will care, they'll probably see and respect your discipline and it will get you further in your goals throughout your Life. Keep records of your work and time too.
,i have a pigeon
So many pigeons die during the Race...it is a disgusting Cruelty to these wonderful Birds, who have a lifelong Partnership to seperate them. ..to take them away from there Home...
Lost Pigeons gather in the cities, called a plague and are often killed 😢😢😢😢😢😢
Why don't You care for those Thousands of Lost Pigeons instead of breeding and sending them to fatal races ?
Some might die, but not through cruelty. They're more likely to be killed by hawks and falcons, or hit man made structures like power lines. This is true of all birds, not just racing pigeons.
If anything, racing pigeons are protected from predators for 95% of their lives. They're treated for parasites and illnesses that kill so many wild bird species and they never experience starvation as they're always fed so well. They're let out for daily exercise, just like your dog and cat, and always choose to come home afterwards. They return from races because they want to. They return faster because of sex, and that's not for a life long partnership, they don't care who it's with (it's a misconception that pigeons are monogamous).
They're so well looked after that they easily live over 10 years (unless they suffer the aforementioned).
You can try to take care of the birds from the towns (strays) but you would have to keep them imprisoned because as soon as you let them out to fly they would go straight back to the town (they're homing pigeons after all).
I spent a great deal of time contemplating the ethics of the sport before I started because of the now clearly unjust reputation it had from the past. Things have moved on and most fanciers take better care of their birds than themselves, often driving hundreds of miles or paying lots of money to couriers to collect birds that have been reported lost.
Most racing pigeons have a great life. They're housed, fed, free healthcare, protected from predators when at home, allowed real freedom to go wherever they want (no dog leads, walking parks, horse reins, play centres, playgrounds, race courses etc) they literally have all the freedom they want, which is incidentally when they're most vulnerable and likely to die.
@@howtotrainyourpigeon
I would never expose a dog or another pet hundreds of miles away, accepting them to die of exhaustion...and of course some of them might be disoriented and gather with city pigeons...starving and being treated like being the pest...care for these vulnarable poor pigeons instead of bringing more Suffering into this World
@@UllaLara okay so I think we'd need to agree on the definition of 'cruel' to make any progress. Dogs don't have homing instincts or abilities like homing pigeons do, so yes if you 'dumped' your dog hundreds of miles away that would be cruel and not really comparable. I was referring to pigeons being able to choose whether they come back from exercise. Dogs, horses, gerbils, parrots or most other pets are kept imprisoned. Isn't that cruel?
Racing pigeons have the life of Riley compared to most animals, captive or wild. Flights of pigeons have been tracked using GPS rings. On analysis the flocks will fly 50-60 miles a day on their excerise. It doesn't matter to them if they are 100, 200 or 600 miles from home. They find their way as easily as you do driving from one city to another using your GPS. That's why they're unique.
Don't ignore my previous comment on stray town pigeons. They're there because they choose to be and if you take them away to 'look after them' they will fly straight back to the town, they're homing pigeons after all.
@@howtotrainyourpigeon
..of course Dogs and Cats have homing instincts, and also often try to come back for long distances .
I have "feral" city pigeons and former racing pigeons, most of them do have a lifelong parnership and bond very closely once they have found a partner e.g. a wonderful white pigeon together with a blind feral pigeon .
But not all are handicapped and most of them could easily fly back when they have recovered, but they stay...because they have found a home, their gang :) or their partner...they come injured, sick, broken...and stay...unless they have a partner in the city ...but to be honest there are more male pigeons found, i think due to the complications of the bred in brooding and laying eggs up to six times a year...they have inflammations, calcium deficiency they fight for their lifes outside in the Streets...when the breeders are too old and has abandoned them... there are so many pigeons out there in the streets...but still people breed more and more for fun..for a hobby...and breeding always means selection, as we all know, they are not only killed by hawks, or in an accident, but also by the breeders, if the pigeon does not perform the results as expected or does have any disability...it is one of the cruelest hobbies, if you look behind the scenes
Dan, I wouldn't waste you're time talking to this person who won't even use there real name. Clueless, deluded, uses politically incorrect words like Handicaped, if such bird even exists, being blind =special needs. Needs to be shown to it's food and water and perch, this person probably has it locked in a wire front box because of it being blind, which is cruel, because if it's not in its box other birds sense it's weakness and would pick the head off it and try kill it again cruel. Pigeon should be utinized, as it has a poor quality of life being blind. I could go on and on but what's the point talking to someone who is taking serious amounts of deludimol , and is totally and utterly clueless about pigeon racing and pigeons in general.
If ya want good birds ireland sean hunt or herbie Thorpe winning young n old avv,every year
Do you have to ask permission to your neighbours or just put the loft and wait for them to cry🤣
I rang the council and said I dont need to ask permission the council or neighbours just to bear in mind everyone think they attract rats and they are dirty.
No you don't 'have' to ask. I would just make sure it doesn't interfere with them. I told my neighbours I was putting up a shed and aviary for some birds. No need to be specific. Don't get too many to start with and you'll probably find they actually quite like watching them fly in the spring/summer. But before all of that, join your local club for sure
@@howtotrainyourpigeon how do I find my local club ?
I am experienced, keeping them and racing them. So definitely I will keep less numbers but good quality.
I just dont want neighbours be angry on me
@@howtotrainyourpigeon where do you buy the treatments , food and all the stuff for birds ?
@@liviumititelu7397 If you're in the UK get in touch with the RPRA 👍
@@howtotrainyourpigeon yes , I will.
Also will try to stay away from my neighbours view but that's a bit hard because most of the gardens in Uk are not great.
Hey man, How's it going? do you have social media accounts? I really wanna tell you an important thing.