Just did my own test on flight time and got opposite result to this video. What the review got wrong is using same throttle %. It didn't take into account that the ESC calibration and/or motor kv is different so that with same throttle % in Tx you get 600RPM higher on the EVO. This probably explains the difference in flight time. On my Radiomaster i had to set 10% lower throttle on EVO to get same actual RPM. This was checked with a tachometer. I did back to back 5 min flights at 4600RPM and the S2 had 3.801V remaining (35%) whereas the Evo had 3.828V remaining (45%). This tends to point to the Evo being able to fly longer, certainly not the opposite. As for 'power' .. If both helis run same RPM and same collective pitch range, and blades are the same, and the Evo is slightly lighter (and neither 'bogs down') then I dont see how one could feel more powerful? PS...You shouldn't run 100% on these helis, they have governor and TALY which need headroom to work.
@@HelidirectRC I did shoot a video of both flights.. Give me a moment and I'll upload. My flying is 'old granny style' so the videos will be incredibly boring, but they do prove the point about battery usage during identical flights. I did a few flights and results were similar each time.
Hey Jeff. What a perfect video. I am in the mood to start flying again after a 7 year break. I find these two helicopters and a side by side video. All from a website I used years ago and trust. Thank you.
You’re welcome! I am glad that the video was useful and you are going to get back into flying! Such an incredible hobby and the technology we have now from what we had back then will really help you get back into the hobby like you’ve never left!
Howzit fellas. I begrudgingly ordered my Goosky s2 from HD last week. I had been waiting for the OMP M2 evo to become available for over a month and finally gave up. I told myself ill just ''settle" for the "clone" of the m2 evo and get the Goosky for now. I had been flying an OMP M1 for a while now, doing pitch pumpy smacky 3d, you know the kind of flying you like to do after and 11hr workday, and was ready and Itching for a step up in size. I received it a couple of days ago, i got the bind and fly version. The bird came with 3 batts and the blutooth dongle and some spare parts like this video mentioned. When I first took it out of the box and felt the weight and looked closer at this machine, I just knew that I made a good decision. I have put exactly 12 flights on this bird and all I can say is WOW. The tail holds like an anchor on a reef, the power...oh the power is scary yet confidence inducing. The sound it makes when you hit full pitch is just unreal. I haven't seen anybody talk about the shape of the blades for the Goosky S2, yes, they are much like the m2 but the big difference is at the tips...the Goosky blades have hook shaped tips, which is what makes it sound so great. It is easier to fly than the M1. It feels like it floats in the air when you go easy on it. The canopy looks unreal in person...and then there's the battery system.., can you say Awesome!!! its so easy and quick to get the next pack in there. Put all that together with the fact that it has a bluthooth interface makes it the Winner in my humble opinion. I think if Jonas flew the Goosky he would agree. Please check out Tareqs video with this bird. And if you are on the fence about this bird...go for it..its worth it. Peace out pilots.
Without data, it is difficult to decide which one is better. Didn't you at least measure the RPM? Although the s2 is more powerful, the tail noise is quieter in the evo.
@@js32257 The goosky s2. I have an archer plus rs mini I thought about using but also thought it would be cool if the i could use the futaba S-FHSS protocol. I think the goosky s2 has that built in. Any thoughts or recommendations are appreciated. Transmitter is FR sky Twin x-lite S
@@chrisb9028 The Goosky S2 does in fact have s-fhss built in. The OMP has the OMP protocol built in. With a multi-protocol module TX (RadioMaster) you can fly either without an additional receiver. I'm not sure about the capabilities of your TX but I'm 100% sure about which protocols each heli supports without an additional receiver as I have both helicopters.
Fully expected you to recommend the S2 since as for all I know as of a week or so ago, Heli Direct is the only online retailer. In full disclosure as we do on the radio, I am an OMP fan since the M2 Explore came out, but found it interesting that you didn't find even one thing that the M2 Evo is better than the S2 just to be less subjective... But like you said, we as the consumer make the decision as to which fits us and our flying style better. I do intend to try the S2 myself when there are more than one U.S. retailer to buy from for better parts availability.
getting out and flying is the problem for me whether it's taking care of my dog work or finding time the S1/S2 family make it so I got a killer heli for any spot. Everything's getting more crowded the future is smaller
Nice to see a review by someone with some flying chops. I am torn between these 2 helis, I suppose local availability of parts here in Australia may be the deciding factor
Hey Jeff, Thanks for the side by side comp! I know you're a Spektrum user however will a Futaba w/ S-FHSS output bind directly to the Goosky onboard receiver without a satellite rx? I just just need some clarity. Thank you!
@westhobbiesrc - Jeff I enjoy your videos, these are very interesting results. Would you be able to redo your tests with some additional criteria? Accurately measure the head speed of each heli. Then fly each heli using the lipo from the S2 and again each heli using the lipo from Evo. It would be interesting to know if this will help you draw further or possibly refine your conclusions.
Thank you I appreciate it! So I have put countless flights on both models over the last few months. Of course I don’t record every flight lol but I have probably gotten well over 200 flights on the S2 and over 100 on the Evo. I have done the batteries from each and power for the S2 no matter the battery is the same. But! I could definitely do eight more further test results with actual head speed numbers! The only way to properly measure your head speed would be with a tack so I will have to do some figuring on rigging the helicopters down to a board but! Don’t worry it will be done very soon! Because so many people say it is throttle percentage or curves but it is simply that the S2 just has more power!
@@warrenbriggs7449 I like my M2 EVO as well! Never said I didn’t lol I just like the S2 more, I’m pretty disappointed with the power of the EVO. i was expecting it to have more but unfortunately it don’t. I will be making a new video very soon or head speed numbers! I appreciate you watching!
couple things , the motor on the goosky is totally open on the bottom whereby it could get debris in it from propwash or a bad landing . the omp hobby motor is a closed end motor ( incorporated fan) which lends it to more protection for the windings ., the omp hobby tail boom is slightly longer which can aide in better stability . the goosky takes the win for ease of battery changes . i wish omp hobby had incorporated this design in their canopy as my choice would be clear . omp hobby wins in parts availability as i believe more hobby stores will stock these parts ,where as the goosky may be china ordering only . i like the fact that the goosky has non adjustable linkages as i never liked messing with those and another win win for them being the same length across the whole head . both these helis have their goods and bads . such a hard choice . leaning towards the goosky for ease of battery changes and the non adjustable linkage . and of course blue tooth tuning . but the omp with its closed end motor with fan and the cleaner servo setup and longer boom have me on edge too . please help me decide . i am kinda not new to helis but not good with them either . i can hover one all day but get me going in forward flight and i am crashing on my way back .
Regardless they're both good my argument is if you can't fly the machine at it's full potential there's no reason to complain about it. Keep the hobby alive just buy all the helis they're all nice
I have tested both helis too. M2 is a very good heli, S2 is better: Sfhss ready, no rx needed More rigid (3 bearing stage on main shaft, frame stiffeners, metal case servo, full bearings washout arms) More power More agile Better gyro ( better cyclic and tail response. it doesnt make scary full pirouettes when you reach the limits of the tail and the tail holds overspeed way better) Beautifull canopy No need to remove canopy for battery change Bluetooth connection the M2 is not a rival of its level.
Great review! So either Goosky pretty much cloned the design and made a few changes or Omp sold the rights to Goosky and they rebranded it and put some of there own spin on it. I do like the Goosky flip down battery canopy idea though
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery so obviously if OMP hobbies wanted to make a faster better or whatever helicopter to beat the S2 they could but they're not that type of people I guess to play silly games I never go with a copy of something I always go with the original
One thing I noticed with the Evo is the lipo definitely took a few flights to bed in. First few flights I panicked a bit because flight time so short. But after a few cycles am getting good flight times so not an issue. I don't know about other countries but in the UK the S2 is £40-£50 more expensive. Not huge but noticeable. Great vid.
In the uk the omp is £298 the s2 is £379 I don’t know if these prices are RRP or wether the s2 being newer & commands a higher price? Or if it’s the retailers fixing it higher.
Goosky s2 is the winner I have flown the omp,Logo 200 and now I'm flying the Goosky and by far the s2 Goosky feels more locked in, stable, feels like a big machine. 👍 for Goosky
Love the design but way too small!, scale it up, so I can see it when in the air! Use to fly Flybar Nitro in the 80's. these are great Helis, but way too small to fly unless your in a restricted site!
Oh wow the alot more expensive one is the worst choice. Well they have had the same set up for a long time now. They need a big time upgrade to their selections
More power, and 30% more flight time with the same sized battery? I don't believe you, sorry. That's going to require some bench testing and data to back up such an outlandish claim.
Nope, you are wrong. Battery technology can have very different out comes when it comes to cell grade, and quality. All batteries are NOT created equal...Also, Jeff is and always will give an honest review as all our pilots will. He did a great job. take the information given, and make your own personal decision on what fits you best.
As stated not all battery technology are treated the same. Now old 100% the S2 has far more power than the M2 Evo at the same 100% throttle. You can hear me he head speed difference alone. As far as flight time, the S2 flies quite a bit longer than the M2 EVO and after multiple flights to back it up I can 100% say the flight times are definitely longer and more powerful
@@HelidirectRC Fly the same battery on both then? Or state that the extended flight time is down to the battery, which so far as I remember, wasn't mentioned. Here's something you could do. Split screen video. Both batteries fresh off the charger, into the helicopter, then into a hover at the same head speed, for the same amount of time (preferably long enough to get the battery down to 3.7v/cell on at least one of the helicopters) then re-charge on the charger and see which used the least capacity. Do it in a single take, with no cuts in each.
Hi Jeff -- does the GooSky have "self level/stabilization" in mode1 like the OMP M2 EVO? ...i.e. like the OMP M2 Evo -- e.g. your video here - th-cam.com/video/XtkhAvhOP94/w-d-xo.html
as is 99% of any spectrum product and almost any RC aviation product it's amazing that Traxxas is still made in Taiwan, almost nothing is. omp Used to be American, but it wasn't a heli company back then, RC company called Ohio metal products for me I tip a nonalcoholic brewski to the Goosky
The folding nose on the S2 is brilliant .
Just did my own test on flight time and got opposite result to this video. What the review got wrong is using same throttle %. It didn't take into account that the ESC calibration and/or motor kv is different so that with same throttle % in Tx you get 600RPM higher on the EVO. This probably explains the difference in flight time. On my Radiomaster i had to set 10% lower throttle on EVO to get same actual RPM. This was checked with a tachometer. I did back to back 5 min flights at 4600RPM and the S2 had 3.801V remaining (35%) whereas the Evo had 3.828V remaining (45%). This tends to point to the Evo being able to fly longer, certainly not the opposite.
As for 'power' .. If both helis run same RPM and same collective pitch range, and blades are the same, and the Evo is slightly lighter (and neither 'bogs down') then I dont see how one could feel more powerful?
PS...You shouldn't run 100% on these helis, they have governor and TALY which need headroom to work.
Awesome can you post this video? I’d love to see your findings!:)
@@HelidirectRC I did shoot a video of both flights.. Give me a moment and I'll upload. My flying is 'old granny style' so the videos will be incredibly boring, but they do prove the point about battery usage during identical flights. I did a few flights and results were similar each time.
The truth about battery life on these two helis with actual proper knowledge and process being used. th-cam.com/video/8M7nIBUdB_M/w-d-xo.html
@@HelidirectRC what do you think of the findings?
Hey Jeff.
What a perfect video.
I am in the mood to start flying again after a 7 year break. I find these two helicopters and a side by side video.
All from a website I used years ago and trust.
Thank you.
You’re welcome! I am glad that the video was useful and you are going to get back into flying! Such an incredible hobby and the technology we have now from what we had back then will really help you get back into the hobby like you’ve never left!
Question, what does the agility vs speed do in the flybarless settings?
Howzit fellas. I begrudgingly ordered my Goosky s2 from HD last week. I had been waiting for the OMP M2 evo to become available for over a month and finally gave up. I told myself ill just ''settle" for the "clone" of the m2 evo and get the Goosky for now. I had been flying an OMP M1 for a while now, doing pitch pumpy smacky 3d, you know the kind of flying you like to do after and 11hr workday, and was ready and Itching for a step up in size. I received it a couple of days ago, i got the bind and fly version. The bird came with 3 batts and the blutooth dongle and some spare parts like this video mentioned. When I first took it out of the box and felt the weight and looked closer at this machine, I just knew that I made a good decision. I have put exactly 12 flights on this bird and all I can say is WOW. The tail holds like an anchor on a reef, the power...oh the power is scary yet confidence inducing. The sound it makes when you hit full pitch is just unreal. I haven't seen anybody talk about the shape of the blades for the Goosky S2, yes, they are much like the m2 but the big difference is at the tips...the Goosky blades have hook shaped tips, which is what makes it sound so great. It is easier to fly than the M1. It feels like it floats in the air when you go easy on it. The canopy looks unreal in person...and then there's the battery system.., can you say Awesome!!! its so easy and quick to get the next pack in there. Put all that together with the fact that it has a bluthooth interface makes it the Winner in my humble opinion. I think if Jonas flew the Goosky he would agree. Please check out Tareqs video with this bird. And if you are on the fence about this bird...go for it..its worth it. Peace out pilots.
Wow… Thank you for your detailed experience! I’m so happy you had an awesome experience from start to finish. 🙏🏾
I like this your detailed comment. Thank you.
Howzit! Do you fly at Kawainui? I want to get a heli but want to see one in person to figure out size. I'm in Kaimuki.
@JoeEngineersThings Im on the Big Island. Its the perfect size if you ask me. Great for all flying styles.
Just ordered mine from HeliDirect. Can’t wait for it to bind it to my radio. Awesome video!!! Thanks.
Watching this after I bought the S2, cant wait for it to show up!
S1 vs M1 comparison video coming soon???
Do you know the kv rating of the tail motors: m2 & m2 evo? Can’t find it on the SunnySky site. Thank you in advance!
Without data, it is difficult to decide which one is better. Didn't you at least measure the RPM? Although the s2 is more powerful, the tail noise is quieter in the evo.
Does omphobby m2 battery(650 or 750mah) fit to goosky?
Are the batteries compatible with each other?
Which one has better support and spare parts availability ?
Goosky
Any idea what radio protocol this uses. I am wanting to fly it with an frsky transmitter.
...which one?
@@js32257 The goosky s2. I have an archer plus rs mini I thought about using but also thought it would be cool if the i could use the futaba S-FHSS protocol. I think the goosky s2 has that built in. Any thoughts or recommendations are appreciated. Transmitter is FR sky Twin x-lite S
@@chrisb9028 The Goosky S2 does in fact have s-fhss built in. The OMP has the OMP protocol built in. With a multi-protocol module TX (RadioMaster) you can fly either without an additional receiver. I'm not sure about the capabilities of your TX but I'm 100% sure about which protocols each heli supports without an additional receiver as I have both helicopters.
Fully expected you to recommend the S2 since as for all I know as of a week or so ago, Heli Direct is the only online retailer. In full disclosure as we do on the radio, I am an OMP fan since the M2 Explore came out, but found it interesting that you didn't find even one thing that the M2 Evo is better than the S2 just to be less subjective... But like you said, we as the consumer make the decision as to which fits us and our flying style better. I do intend to try the S2 myself when there are more than one U.S. retailer to buy from for better parts availability.
My advice to anyone facing this decision is to fly both.:) I think you should purchase your Goosky from Helidirect!:)
@@HelidirectRC I might if/when others follows suit. Good to see competition in this micro niche.
getting out and flying is the problem for me whether it's taking care of my dog work or finding time the S1/S2 family make it so I got a killer heli for any spot. Everything's getting more crowded the future is smaller
Nice to see a review by someone with some flying chops. I am torn between these 2 helis, I suppose local availability of parts here in Australia may be the deciding factor
Does the Goosky battery fit the Evo just as well?
Yes
Hey Jeff, Thanks for the side by side comp! I know you're a Spektrum user however will a Futaba w/ S-FHSS output bind directly to the Goosky onboard receiver without a satellite rx? I just just need some clarity. Thank you!
@westhobbiesrc - Jeff I enjoy your videos, these are very interesting results. Would you be able to redo your tests with some additional criteria? Accurately measure the head speed of each heli. Then fly each heli using the lipo from the S2 and again each heli using the lipo from Evo. It would be interesting to know if this will help you draw further or possibly refine your conclusions.
Thank you I appreciate it! So I have put countless flights on both models over the last few months. Of course I don’t record every flight lol but I have probably gotten well over 200 flights on the S2 and over 100 on the Evo. I have done the batteries from each and power for the S2 no matter the battery is the same. But! I could definitely do eight more further test results with actual head speed numbers! The only way to properly measure your head speed would be with a tack so I will have to do some figuring on rigging the helicopters down to a board but! Don’t worry it will be done very soon! Because so many people say it is throttle percentage or curves but it is simply that the S2 just has more power!
@@westhobbiesrc8051 Thanks Jeff. Full disclosure I have OMP EVos. Regardless of your conclusion I will like ya anyway. 😀
@@warrenbriggs7449 I like my M2 EVO as well! Never said I didn’t lol I just like the S2 more, I’m pretty disappointed with the power of the EVO. i was expecting it to have more but unfortunately it don’t. I will be making a new video very soon or head speed numbers! I appreciate you watching!
This S2 and OMP were a family.
Jeff is a legend! Love his content.
Absolutely!
couple things , the motor on the goosky is totally open on the bottom whereby it could get debris in it from propwash or a bad landing . the omp hobby motor is a closed end motor ( incorporated fan) which lends it to more protection for the windings .,
the omp hobby tail boom is slightly longer which can aide in better stability .
the goosky takes the win for ease of battery changes . i wish omp hobby had incorporated this design in their canopy as my choice would be clear .
omp hobby wins in parts availability as i believe more hobby stores will stock these parts ,where as the goosky may be china ordering only .
i like the fact that the goosky has non adjustable linkages as i never liked messing with those and another win win for them being the same length across the whole head .
both these helis have their goods and bads . such a hard choice .
leaning towards the goosky for ease of battery changes and the non adjustable linkage . and of course blue tooth tuning .
but the omp with its closed end motor with fan and the cleaner servo setup and longer boom have me on edge too . please help me decide . i am kinda not new to helis but not good with them either . i can hover one all day but get me going in forward flight and i am crashing on my way back .
Thank you for this perfect comparison. I have M1 from OMP and think about M2. After that video I will think about S2 :-).
Very good, thanks for the review!
So I thinking of getting the goosky
To setup with my futaba 16iz . And learn some 3D . Instead of my Goblin 380
Nice job on the review Jeff🚁🚁
Thank you!
U had fun making that video
Regardless they're both good my argument is if you can't fly the machine at it's full potential there's no reason to complain about it. Keep the hobby alive just buy all the helis they're all nice
Yes, just enjoy the hobby😂
Like the the style on the omp more for my style😊
I love my Goosky. Really objective review here. Thanks!
I have tested both helis too.
M2 is a very good heli, S2 is better:
Sfhss ready, no rx needed
More rigid (3 bearing stage on main shaft, frame stiffeners, metal case servo, full bearings washout arms)
More power
More agile
Better gyro ( better cyclic and tail response. it doesnt make scary full pirouettes when you reach the limits of the tail and the tail holds overspeed way better)
Beautifull canopy
No need to remove canopy for battery change
Bluetooth connection
the M2 is not a rival of its level.
Wow! Those are big words! Thank you for your in depth information!
Do you mean M2 Evo or M2 V2?
Make it clear bro!
@@okgo1093 M2 evo
Great review! So either Goosky pretty much cloned the design and made a few changes or Omp sold the rights to Goosky and they rebranded it and put some of there own spin on it. I do like the Goosky flip down battery canopy idea though
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery so obviously if OMP hobbies wanted to make a faster better or whatever helicopter to beat the S2 they could but they're not that type of people I guess to play silly games I never go with a copy of something I always go with the original
One thing I noticed with the Evo is the lipo definitely took a few flights to bed in. First few flights I panicked a bit because flight time so short. But after a few cycles am getting good flight times so not an issue. I don't know about other countries but in the UK the S2 is £40-£50 more expensive. Not huge but noticeable. Great vid.
In the uk the omp is £298 the s2 is £379
I don’t know if these prices are RRP or wether the s2 being newer & commands a higher price? Or if it’s the retailers fixing it higher.
And what your flight time now?
Goosky s2 is the winner
I have flown the omp,Logo 200 and now I'm flying the Goosky and by far the s2 Goosky feels more locked in, stable, feels like a big machine.
👍 for Goosky
I agree...I love mine.
west hobbys rc guy???
Love the design but way too small!, scale it up, so I can see it when in the air! Use to fly Flybar Nitro in the 80's. these are great Helis, but way too small to fly unless your in a restricted site!
Love my Goosky S2 !! It’s so much fun to fly !!
Awesome Video @HeliDirect
Fantastic Flying and Heli Comparison impressions @WestHobbiesRC
Thanks Larry!
😊
Oh wow the alot more expensive one is the worst choice. Well they have had the same set up for a long time now. They need a big time upgrade to their selections
More power, and 30% more flight time with the same sized battery? I don't believe you, sorry. That's going to require some bench testing and data to back up such an outlandish claim.
Nope, you are wrong. Battery technology can have very different out comes when it comes to cell grade, and quality. All batteries are NOT created equal...Also, Jeff is and always will give an honest review as all our pilots will. He did a great job. take the information given, and make your own personal decision on what fits you best.
As stated not all battery technology are treated the same. Now old 100% the S2 has far more power than the M2 Evo at the same 100% throttle. You can hear me he head speed difference alone. As far as flight time, the S2 flies quite a bit longer than the M2 EVO and after multiple flights to back it up I can 100% say the flight times are definitely longer and more powerful
@@HelidirectRC Fly the same battery on both then? Or state that the extended flight time is down to the battery, which so far as I remember, wasn't mentioned.
Here's something you could do. Split screen video. Both batteries fresh off the charger, into the helicopter, then into a hover at the same head speed, for the same amount of time (preferably long enough to get the battery down to 3.7v/cell on at least one of the helicopters) then re-charge on the charger and see which used the least capacity. Do it in a single take, with no cuts in each.
@bigpops74 I think that is a perfect video for you to make! Can you make it? I’d love to see that test from your point of view
@@bigpops74 it's true buddy the goosky flies longer than the m2 evo and the infusion 180 flies even longer ive gotten 8 min out of it
Hi Jeff -- does the GooSky have "self level/stabilization" in mode1 like the OMP M2 EVO? ...i.e. like the OMP M2 Evo -- e.g. your video here - th-cam.com/video/XtkhAvhOP94/w-d-xo.html
I got both m2 more ballet s2 is a micro bumble bee 😂
Gooey!
Looks like they actually can't fly vry good..is the control that far outa wack??
Where do you want your money going? The US or China?
wtf are you talking about they are both chinese companies.
as is 99% of any spectrum product and almost any RC aviation product it's amazing that Traxxas is still made in Taiwan, almost nothing is. omp Used to be American, but it wasn't a heli company back then, RC company called Ohio metal products
for me I tip a nonalcoholic brewski to the Goosky
Goosky s2 better, and now goosky launch goosky rs4, bigger size... Goosky has alot off power, cheap part,