This explains why we had a few sights come off at the range even though we use Loc-Tite. We definitely haven't been degreasing first. Also I hadn't considered a hot gun would break down the loc-tite over time. Thanks Dave
Great tip, thank you. One question though, how do you make sure that your front sight is perfectly aligned? I noticed that there's little play in these sights, so also a possibility of sight rotating while being tightened.
Showed up for a ccw class with my, recently, gunsmith installed sights. The front was so loose it wobbled. Went in and asked the range staff if they had a driver and Loc-tite. They took it in the back and fixed it right up at no charge. Have since checked them almost every evening when I get home. Good reminder!
My trijicon had play in it. I got new Glock 19 gen 5 installed the front sight and there was a lot of play left to right. I had to line it up and tighten. I thought they fit snug and lined up perfectly
If you degrease your fingers when you degrease the screw, you can then use your fingers to handle it, at least for a short while afterwards. I'm not saying the degreaser is good for your fingers, I'm just saying it works. Alternatively you could use nitrile-type mechanic's gloves. Always degrease both threads, i.e., the nut and the bolt. There are many different grades of loctite for different SIZE screws and applications. They recommend low strength (purple #222) for screws under 1/4" diameter. I never use purple. Most folks, including me, use medium strength (blue #242/243), which is also within recommendation for screws up to 1/4" and is good to 360 degrees F. There is a high temp, medium strength version (blue #246) which is good to 450 degrees. (There is also a 650 degree version, but it's for big bolts.) Heat is NOT recommended by loctite for low and medium strength disassembly. There are some high strength versions (red), which call for 480 degrees F heating for removal. Interestingly, the red versions offer about the same heat resistance, so the regular red (#263) goes to 360 degrees and the high temp (#272) goes to 450. I do not recommend high strength for most gunsmith applications. There are also some mil-spec versions. I would be interested to know exactly how hot a typical pistol slide/sight gets. I'm guessing not that hot. Finally, try to find the actual recommended torque spec for your application and get a torque wrench/screwdriver and use it. You might be surprised. dm.henkel-dam.com/is/content/henkel/threadlocker-user-guide%20(1)pdf www.henkel-adhesives.com/us/en/products/industrial-adhesives/threadlockers.html
Purple Loctite 222, degreasing the screw and the female threads, and 3.5 in*lb of torque are the tricks to make the front sight never fail. Aligning the front sight parallel to the slide is also needed, because the obround datum doesn't work well.
Glocks last a long time, it’s not crazy to think you maybe swap in fresh night sights 1 or 2 times. Rocksett is obviously *super solid* but I don’t think anything short of a Glock 18 would get the slide so hot that Rocksett would be required. I like Loctite 243, it locks like regular Blue 242 except it is impervious to oils and it has a slightly higher heat rating. But yeah if you don’t mind soaking your slide to break down the Rocksett, it obviously will work just fine for securing a front sight.
My front sight is crooked. I took the screw out of the under side but the sight will not move. It won't budge a single millimeter. I'm getting frustrated.
Any advice if a gun smith used red locktite and stripped your front sight and you’re trying to remove it? I think I may need to buy a 60-70 dollar new trijicon front sight now. Damn I wish I had learned how to install these sights in the very beginning. This is so annoying.
Yeah go to a competing gunsmith and show them the shit work of the guy who ruined your sights. Or go back to that fool and make them do it right and they should replace the sights. My buddy got one of his guns cerakoted at a gun shop. They scratched it while putting the sights back in. They then offered to re coat it for free AFTER he puts some use into it.
if you haven't bought sights yet, Warren Tactical had a sale earlier this month. Bought "2 Lamp Tritium Set, 1 Lamp Wide Notch Rear Sight and 1 Lg. Lamp Front Sight - .245 Tall Front" for $64; originally $120+ not sure if the sale is still active but worth a look =]
@@LilSkimp Or you use rocksett that can stand the heat and will give when soaked in water (when you're sure that's the sight that should stay on and there is a good chance of heat.)
Good tips! Remember to degrease the sight base screw hole to assure good adhesion.
Agreed!
This explains why we had a few sights come off at the range even though we use Loc-Tite. We definitely haven't been degreasing first. Also I hadn't considered a hot gun would break down the loc-tite over time. Thanks Dave
Thanks for sharing your experience and thanks for tuning in!
Great tip, thank you. One question though, how do you make sure that your front sight is perfectly aligned? I noticed that there's little play in these sights, so also a possibility of sight rotating while being tightened.
Showed up for a ccw class with my, recently, gunsmith installed sights. The front was so loose it wobbled. Went in and asked the range staff if they had a driver and Loc-tite. They took it in the back and fixed it right up at no charge. Have since checked them almost every evening when I get home. Good reminder!
Thank you Mr. Spaulding. You should be considered a national treasure in the gun culture. God bless.
Thanks for your kind words and thanks for watching!
Excellent video, Mr. Spaulding. Thank you for the tips.
I did exactly the same thing you did on my Glock 17 & Glock 19 I used nail polish remover for the cleaning and blue loc tite.
My trijicon had play in it. I got new Glock 19 gen 5 installed the front sight and there was a lot of play left to right. I had to line it up and tighten. I thought they fit snug and lined up perfectly
In Commifornia I can only get the gen3. Can you change out gen3 front sites?
Jose said it all you are a treasure to the gun culture. Thank you for your info and time.
If you degrease your fingers when you degrease the screw, you can then use your fingers to handle it, at least for a short while afterwards. I'm not saying the degreaser is good for your fingers, I'm just saying it works. Alternatively you could use nitrile-type mechanic's gloves. Always degrease both threads, i.e., the nut and the bolt.
There are many different grades of loctite for different SIZE screws and applications. They recommend low strength (purple #222) for screws under 1/4" diameter. I never use purple. Most folks, including me, use medium strength (blue #242/243), which is also within recommendation for screws up to 1/4" and is good to 360 degrees F. There is a high temp, medium strength version (blue #246) which is good to 450 degrees. (There is also a 650 degree version, but it's for big bolts.) Heat is NOT recommended by loctite for low and medium strength disassembly. There are some high strength versions (red), which call for 480 degrees F heating for removal. Interestingly, the red versions offer about the same heat resistance, so the regular red (#263) goes to 360 degrees and the high temp (#272) goes to 450. I do not recommend high strength for most gunsmith applications. There are also some mil-spec versions. I would be interested to know exactly how hot a typical pistol slide/sight gets. I'm guessing not that hot.
Finally, try to find the actual recommended torque spec for your application and get a torque wrench/screwdriver and use it. You might be surprised.
dm.henkel-dam.com/is/content/henkel/threadlocker-user-guide%20(1)pdf
www.henkel-adhesives.com/us/en/products/industrial-adhesives/threadlockers.html
Purple Loctite 222, degreasing the screw and the female threads, and 3.5 in*lb of torque are the tricks to make the front sight never fail. Aligning the front sight parallel to the slide is also needed, because the obround datum doesn't work well.
Rocksett high temp. thread locker is a go to for folks who are worried about heat loosening things over time. Any reason not to use that here?
Glocks last a long time, it’s not crazy to think you maybe swap in fresh night sights 1 or 2 times. Rocksett is obviously *super solid* but I don’t think anything short of a Glock 18 would get the slide so hot that Rocksett would be required.
I like Loctite 243, it locks like regular Blue 242 except it is impervious to oils and it has a slightly higher heat rating.
But yeah if you don’t mind soaking your slide to break down the Rocksett, it obviously will work just fine for securing a front sight.
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Man I love your sights. I’ve got them on most of my glocks. I just wish they were just a little bit taller. Not much, just a little. Thanks Dave.
You can buy them taller. Ameiglo offers different heights.
Great tips. Have a Ruger LCP which will accept Glock front sights. Will use these tips.
My front sight is crooked. I took the screw out of the under side but the sight will not move. It won't budge a single millimeter. I'm getting frustrated.
Thanks for instructions I definitely wanted to do it right 👍
Good tips, thx!
ordered a Ameriglo sight from Taurus. No screw in the pkg
interesting tip, I'll give it a go next cleaning
should I use it on the rear sight too ?
Any advice if a gun smith used red locktite and stripped your front sight and you’re trying to remove it? I think I may need to buy a 60-70 dollar new trijicon front sight now. Damn I wish I had learned how to install these sights in the very beginning. This is so annoying.
Yeah go to a competing gunsmith and show them the shit work of the guy who ruined your sights. Or go back to that fool and make them do it right and they should replace the sights. My buddy got one of his guns cerakoted at a gun shop. They scratched it while putting the sights back in. They then offered to re coat it for free AFTER he puts some use into it.
So you recommend Ameriglo night sights? Wanting to get night sights for my Glock 17
if you haven't bought sights yet, Warren Tactical had a sale earlier this month. Bought "2 Lamp Tritium Set, 1 Lamp Wide Notch Rear Sight and 1 Lg. Lamp Front Sight - .245 Tall Front" for $64; originally $120+ not sure if the sale is still active but worth a look =]
@@kylbau already bought some thank you anyway
Thanks for sharing
great video
Do you need to degrease the threaded hole in the sight?
For best adhesion you should.
yes
PCMS is very important with weapons, just as it is for vehicles.
PMCS
Correct
Nice
“Greeze” ... nasty stuff
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Your screws probably fall off because you're using blue locktite. You need red
Nah red is too strong I’ve had multiple people come to me with their front site stripped and stuck on. Blue is the way to go
@@LilSkimp
Or you use rocksett that can stand the heat and will give when soaked in water (when you're sure that's the sight that should stay on and there is a good chance of heat.)