It’s truly incredible, I’ve been staring at these old records for years wondering . Thanks TH-cam lol I have many records but no record player. Searching
Fr how do vocals come out like I’d be more chill if it was just random notes of instruments but syllables and shiz is heard and not to mention it doesn’t loop the same phrase it plays full songs how does that work
Wait till you realize that as long as you can code the groves to make vocals and instrument sounds, real vocals and instruments aren’t really necessary. The groves sending signals to the speakers can reproduce any sound.
So if I have a blank record I can just etch grooves in it and potentially create a musical masterpiece? I just find it astonishing that simply making grooves in vinyl can replicate drums, bass, vocals, etc
You could, but you likely wouldn't hear what you'd expect. The exact vibrations of the music are etched into the vinyl when pressed. You could certainly try your own etching as Thomas edison did, but you still need to amplify it to hear it properly.
So, since every single explanation of how grooves on a piece of plastic become music makes it all sound even more complicated, I'm just going to assume that it's magic.
@ignisan6560 I watched it and I understand where the OP here is still wondering how grooves, needle, etc, become music. All of the technical explanation in the video makes sense, but it's still mystifying how a groove on plastic contain accurately recorded sound. How the needle and electrical signals get picked up and everything makes sense, but the plastic groove part is still kind of amazingly mysterious.
@@chungkingexpress94 exactly! I understand the explanation, it just still doesn't seem adequate for some reason. Like, it's just grooves on plastic and you put a needle on them and electricity makes music happen. I get that. But I still don't completely understand. Lol
@john templeplate I have questions 1. How many songs can fit into a Vinyl record? 2. If a Record can fit like 6 or more songs for ex. How is it that a 3 minute song can fit into a singe circular groove and the needle can still play the music even if it rotates back and forth? Please scratch question number 2 if its not a circular groove
Yeah I still don’t understand how little groves make certain sounds and how that sound has different tones 🤷🏻♂️ I’m actually more confused than before 😂
This is my copied comment as this question popped up in the whole comment section haha: When you listen to stereo music you literally only have 2 channels. In modern day DAW (audio software) some producers/audio engineers mix up to, sometimes even more then 100 channels, into only 2! Imagine, when listening to mono music (like the built-in speaker of your smartphone or when you're not in the right listening spot) you're listening to just 1 channel of audio! In other words, you can differentiate all these instruments out of 1 single audio channel reaching your ears. Even the concept of what is an instrument in an audio recording is to some degree arbitrary. When you're à kid with no knowledge about certain instruments & timbres, you don't classify/define the sounds your shearing as certain instruments, you just hear the whole. We humans define what we're hearing as certain instruments, based on knowledge of and prior listening experience. In the studio certain instruments are layered. So what you believe to be 1 specific instrument might be mixed in the studio as 20 separate tracks, yet you personally experience/define it as 1 specific, definable instrument. Because in the end, it's just a sound wave, subjectively interpreted by our human brains. (good nor bad music don't physically exist, it's a subjective experience by the individual listener or the group of listeners) To an alien listening to a stereo vinyl recording, it will probably just sound as random noise. To YOU, it sounds like drums, bass & guitar. You can study this with ethnic music. When certain tribes were studied, they perceived both major as minor western tuned triad chords as neutral. A lot of musical perspective is purely subjective and ingrained by the place & time you were born, with what sounds/music you grew up with. I play shakuhachi (a traditional Japanese instrument) and I can tell you that the traditional repertoire isn't what you probably perceive as 'music'/expect music to be. There's an emphasis on different sound colors and usually an absence of metered tempo. The moments where you breathe for example, are actually part of the piece. Certain 'notes' like an ou and a chi meri, besides having relative pitch differing from one instrument to another, have the same pitch in western terms but a vastly different sound and are notated and described as being actual different tones. Meri notes are supposed to sound less forceful (taijitu principle, yin & yang like in Taoism which comes back in zen traditions) and more melancholic like. In comparison, the tones on a western concert flute are supposed to have a consistent timbre, the tones on a shakuhachi are supposed to differ in timbre. Different musical traditions, although the shakuhachi wasn't initially a musical instrument, nowadays it is. I like to call the shakuhachi an acoustic synthesizer for that reason. haha. :) In Japan they have called it the instrument of the ten thousand sounds. Sounds like a synth ! Our modern day, western, equal temperament, 12 tone, octave based, exponential pitch perception based, A=440 Hz, way of playing music is just one of many ways you can play/'make' music. Or another viewpoint is that of synesthesia. I associate certain frequencies with certain colors. Music is like a canvas/palette to me, with higher notes being actually higher up on the painting and echoey & reverberating sounds extending inward the canvas like a 3D painting. Certain purer sounds with less overtones like a simple sine wave are more rounded while more complex sounds tend to look more squiggly and spikey. I love synthesizer music, especially from the 80's. I'm not surprised myself with all the different kinds of timbres and layers that make the pallette full of colors and different kinds of strokes (like a paint brush) and squiggles. And so on... Of course this is associative, what's usually referred to as 'true' synesthesia is actually seeing sounds or actually feeling sounds or actually tasting words, etc. So in other words, I'm probably not what they clinically describe as a synesthete. It't something that grows with me and didn't come out of the blue or has always been there, hence associative. And it's not always there in my mind. Higher quality sound does rend to help. With closed eyes it becomes a bit clearer as well though. Most people actually tend to describe music and sounds in general in synesthetic ways, like 'warm', 'hollow', 'huge', 'in your face', 'pumping', 'muddy', etc. In short, your brain turns the noise coming out of 2 channels (or 1 or more then 2 when surround) into defined instruments because you learned to associate certain noise with a certain image. When you hear a guitar, you're also seeing it, thinking about it. When an alien hears that same guitar, he/she/it doesn't hear a guitar, it hears noise. (or their own instruments if they happen to also have musical traditions, if they can hear sound waves in the first place that is, maybe they see microwaves and taste sound waves like a human synesthete, maybe they're not even carbon based...) Sound is just a vibration of molecules, usually air, after all. YOUR BRAIN TURNS THAT SOUND INTO DEFINED INSTRUMENTS AND MAKES YOU FEEL THINGS * To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears? The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it). In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images. * To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears? The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it). In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images. Now this is my personal explanation. So I hope I make sense and don't spread misinformation. Personally I wouldn't know how this would work otherwise. This is just how vibrations tend to work. The vinyl contains an imprint of the sound. The amplification and speakers bring it into the air around us. Our brain makes the music.
This is so interesting. I've always wondered how they worked. My guess was that there were ridges but had no idea how they were interpreted. Thank you so much for this simple explanation
Yeah thats what i was wondering... Sbout how the black disc records people in the first place to make grroves accordingly. Can someone give an explanation of how the grooves are calculated?
Not really. The fact that one sound waves sounds like a guitar and another sounds like Lionel Richie has nothing to do with vinyl records and everything to do with the waveform. Vinyl, being an analogue medium simply stores the waveform 'as is' in the grooves of the record.
if we analyze the 'one vibration' made by the needle, when I sing while playing guitar and my son screaming plus the heater buzzing and birds tweeting - all at the same 1/nth second. It's just one small scratch on a plastic....how come it can store all that info?
How is soprano, bass, vocals, etc etched in the plastic? How does the plastic hold the memory of the sounds? I get vibration, but how are different frequencies keep inside the PVC groove? In the groove, you have a singer a guitarist, drummer, all at the same time but the diamond going over the pastic can then separate those individual sounds? I just don't get it.
I'm researching this as well. It's so interesting that even the most complicated soundwave is actually such a very simple binary piece of information. No matter how many different tones and pitches our ears can decipher.
If you are confused: Just imagine the grooves on a vinyl record as a soundwave, because it is basically a soundwave cutted into the record. And a soundwave contains alreade all the sounds, for example the beat, the melody, the instruments, the vocal at the same time. Also the needle goes left right and up and down
I understand how the grooves in the record translate to sound but I don’t understand how each groove is able to capture multiple different overlapping tones at the same time such as vocals, bass, and guitar that are being played simultaneously
If you are confused: Just imagine the grooves on a vinyl record as a soundwave, because it is basically a soundwave cutted into the record. And a soundwave contains alreade all the sounds, for example the beat, the melody, the instruments, the vocal at the same time. Also the needle goes left right and up and down, left right is one channel, up down is the another
DANG IT MAN. I was doing so good studying but I JUST HAD TO go on TH-cam. "Oh look a Vinyl Eyezz video Ive never seen i would be so delighted to watch this." I SAID THIS 20 MINUTES AGO MAN. NOW IM STUCK IN TH-cam PRISON THANKS TO YOU.
i just binge watched every video of yours. I'm just getting into vinyl and these are by far the best videos I've come across. :) definitely going to give a sub
I’m still confused as to how that makes a song. Are the grooves made to produce the exact sounds that make the song or are they just triggers to something else that plays the song?
A technical correction. In a stereo cartridge the moving element, in this case a moving magnet, is at the focal point of a 90 degree triangle where adjacent and opposite lines are made up of two sensing coils. Movement in the left track will cause the moving element to move toward and away from the left coil thus changing the magnetic flux coil and causing an induced electric current in it. As it is moving to and fro vis a vis the left coil it must then be moving accross the right coil. However, such movement will not alter the magnetic flux in the right sensor coil and therefore no current will be induced into it. For this to work as faithfully as possible, the moving element must be positioned exactly at the focal point of the two sensors. This is one of the reasons why tracking force is so important. Too light ot too heavy and the moving element will be out of position.
I've just finished a rewatch of the final episode of the anime Dr. Stone, in which they create a rudimentary record player from stone age materials, and I was left with wanting to understand the base principle of how it works more clearly, so I ended up on this video. I've got to say, I don't think I could find anything that's easier to understand than this; you've really explained in simple terms and simple illustrations, and it made it so easy to understand. I can now go to bed having learned yet another cool thing, thanks to you! ^^
This is a great video about "Stereo" records. You should do one about "Mono" and "Quad". The Quadrophonic system (very short lived) was quite complicated. Not only did the needle (stylus) move side to side, but up and down. The effect was amazing. Many artists actually recorded completely different versions of their albums for the Quad releases. The whole system was an early production of "Surround Sound" If you ever get a chance to hear one, it's quite a thrill. Unfortunately there were too many bugs in the format, and it just died away. There were also "Quad 8-tracks" which used 4 tracks instead of 2 for the recording, so instead of 4 playing positions, there were only 2. These sounded great in a car, and had your ears spinning around the passenger compartment. Again a short lived format.
The stylus moves horizontally and vertically in all stereo records. That's how the stereo signal is formed: each channel is encoded in a diagonal (and the lateral movement produces a sum of both signals, and that's why you can play a stereo record in a mono player and vice versa). Quadrophonic records used supersonic signals to carry the additional information that allows the separation between front and back. That's why those records demanded special equipment to be played.
Excellent video Jarrett. I wanted to do a video like this myself for people new to record collecting, but I don't think I could've explained it better in simple terms.
For those still wondering how the sound gets produced, realize that all sound is simply a vibration. When the needle vibrates on the record grooves, the "sound" is simply the speakers translating the vibrations into what we perceive as music.
I am actually new to LPs and I am obsessed with buying LPs. It is like this feeling of "I WANT MORE". Hahahahha...but I asked myself the question of this video as well, I knew it had something to the with grooves, but how the grooves get "converted" to music or music into grooves --> NO CLUE. But now I know! Thank you!!
I never really thought about it, but music is pretty scientific. You have to experiment with things, and eventually you find a thing that sounds good, and you try to understand how to make more sounds that sound good and then you need a way to share these sounds with others and somehow along the way they discovered the harmonic nature of sound.
You missed an important point about the phono stage (pre-amp), this must also perform a frequency correction called RIAA equalisation. Vinyl is recorded with a bass suppression, RIAA boosts this back on reply. This is important, many people new to vinyl need to understand that a phono pre-amp or phono stage must be used.
if we analyze the 'one vibration' made by the needle, when I sing while playing guitar and my son screaming plus the heater buzzing and birds tweeting - all at the same 1/nth second. It's just one small scratch on a plastic....how come it can store all that info?
@@Music_Head Sound waves combine into a single wave form made up of waves of different frequencies. It takes math to understand how this works (wave equations), and even deeper quantum mechanics to understand why. Bottom line the sound is a single composite wave that your brain can decompose into individual sounds because your brain is God's most astounding creation.
Matt good point. But do you think the carving into the vinyl is the same as a great sculpture work of art? Let’s say there was a super human genius who could carve vinyl records by hand. Pretend he could make exact replicas. Now if he decided to make a little change in the pattern (and if he knew what he was doing) could he add a new instrument to the composition or change a melody line all by the sculpture he is carving into the vinyl? Or is there something more here going on with the sound besides the physical carving representation?
@@Music_Head Not an expert but I would say that is what synthesizers are, they let you manipulate sound waves by changing them in various ways to produce different sounds. The final wave you end up with would be scratched into the vinyl to make a record. Music is definitely the ultimate combination of art and science.
I just copy paste my original comment as it's basically the same question in this whole comment section. When you listen to stereo music you literally only have 2 channels. In modern day DAW (audio software) some producers/audio engineers mix up to, sometimes even more then 100 channels, into only 2! Imagine, when listening to mono music (like the built-in speaker of your smartphone or when you're not in the right listening spot) you're listening to just 1 channel of audio! In other words, you can differentiate all these instruments out of 1 single audio channel reaching your ears. Even the concept of what is an instrument in an audio recording is to some degree arbitrary. When you're à kid with no knowledge about certain instruments & timbres, you don't classify/define the sounds your shearing as certain instruments, you just hear the whole. We humans define what we're hearing as certain instruments, based on knowledge of and prior listening experience. In the studio certain instruments are layered. So what you believe to be 1 specific instrument might be mixed in the studio as 20 separate tracks, yet you personally experience/define it as 1 specific, definable instrument. Because in the end, it's just a sound wave, subjectively interpreted by our human brains. (good nor bad music don't physically exist, it's a subjective experience by the individual listener or the group of listeners) To an alien listening to a stereo vinyl recording, it will probably just sound as random noise. To YOU, it sounds like drums, bass & guitar. You can study this with ethnic music. When certain tribes were studied, they perceived both major as minor western tuned triad chords as neutral. A lot of musical perspective is purely subjective and ingrained by the place & time you were born, with what sounds/music you grew up with. I play shakuhachi (a traditional Japanese instrument) and I can tell you that the traditional repertoire isn't what you probably perceive as 'music'/expect music to be. There's an emphasis on different sound colors and usually an absence of metered tempo. The moments where you breathe for example, are actually part of the piece. Certain 'notes' like an ou and a chi meri, besides having relative pitch differing from one instrument to another, have the same pitch in western terms but a vastly different sound and are notated and described as being actual different tones. Meri notes are supposed to sound less forceful (taijitu principle, yin & yang like in Taoism which comes back in zen traditions) and more melancholic like. In comparison, the tones on a western concert flute are supposed to have a consistent timbre, the tones on a shakuhachi are supposed to differ in timbre. Different musical traditions, although the shakuhachi wasn't initially a musical instrument, nowadays it is. I like to call the shakuhachi an acoustic synthesizer for that reason. haha. :) In Japan they have called it the instrument of the ten thousand sounds. Sounds like a synth ! Our modern day, western, equal temperament, 12 tone, octave based, exponential pitch perception based, A=440 Hz, way of playing music is just one of many ways you can play/'make' music. Or another viewpoint is that of synesthesia. I associate certain frequencies with certain colors. Music is like a canvas/palette to me, with higher notes being actually higher up on the painting and echoey & reverberating sounds extending inward the canvas like a 3D painting. Certain purer sounds with less overtones like a simple sine wave are more rounded while more complex sounds tend to look more squiggly and spikey. I love synthesizer music, especially from the 80's. I'm not surprised myself with all the different kinds of timbres and layers that make the pallette full of colors and different kinds of strokes (like a paint brush) and squiggles. And so on... Of course this is associative, what's usually referred to as 'true' synesthesia is actually seeing sounds or actually feeling sounds or actually tasting words, etc. So in other words, I'm probably not what they clinically describe as a synesthete. It't something that grows with me and didn't come out of the blue or has always been there, hence associative. And it's not always there in my mind. Higher quality sound does rend to help. With closed eyes it becomes a bit clearer as well though. Most people actually tend to describe music and sounds in general in synesthetic ways, like 'warm', 'hollow', 'huge', 'in your face', 'pumping', 'muddy', etc. In short, your brain turns the noise coming out of 2 channels (or 1 or more then 2 when surround) into defined instruments because you learned to associate certain noise with a certain image. When you hear a guitar, you're also seeing it, thinking about it. When an alien hears that same guitar, he/she/it doesn't hear a guitar, it hears noise. (or their own instruments if they happen to also have musical traditions, if they can hear sound waves in the first place that is, maybe they see microwaves and taste sound waves like a human synesthete, maybe they're not even carbon based...) Sound is just a vibration of molecules, usually air, after all. YOUR BRAIN TURNS THAT SOUND INTO DEFINED INSTRUMENTS AND MAKES YOU FEEL THINGS * To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears? The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it). In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images. * To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears? The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it). In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images. Now this is my personal explanation. So I hope I make sense and don't spread misinformation. Personally I wouldn't know how this would work otherwise. This is just how vibrations tend to work. The vinyl contains an imprint of the sound. The amplification and speakers bring it into the air around us. Our brain makes the music.
+Erik Wehner I use the Ortofon 2M Red! It's a great little cartridge with lots of texture and detail. I'll make a video about the differences between those two cartridges soon!
+Vinyl Eyezz Thank you! I'll be on the lookout for that video. Keep up the good work, I appreciate that you actually take the time to reply to peoples comments; excellent content as always.
Why does the left coil send signals to the left channel and the right coil sends signals to the right channel? what is the purpose of it? I mean I understood everything in the video except that part. I need help, please.
Man jarrett you have grown alot in a little bit of time you were at like 530 subs now 711 that just shows how great your videos are. And my dad has way more records than you probably... I really appreciate the content
+Marcusd1213 haha glad you liked that little joke. I'm so happy people are liking my videos! I'm definitely trying my best to keep bringing you guys the best stuff I can :) Thank you for watching
Thank you. When vinyl eyezz explains how a record player produces the sound from a record, vinyl mentions a boost before the vibrations get seperated into left and right and we hear a sound (in theory). I wonder what the boost is like? Anyone have thoughts on this?
But how does it measure what note is being played, or the tone of the sound coming through??? The movement of the needle can tell it how loud AND what sound is being played? HOW?!
So I understand the how these different vibrations make different pitches that can be played audibly, but I don’t understand how a record player and vinyl is able to differentiate the sound produced by a trumpet and a vocalist playing at the same pitch....?
There are an infinite number of waveform shapes that will change the sound, they're not all perfect sine waves. You could sing a particular note, and then sing the same exact note but in your best Eddie Vedder impression voice, and then say your dog steps into the room and howls that exact same note. All three of these soundwaves will have the same frequency (because they're all the same note, or pitch) but the shapes of the waveforms will be quite different. Frequency/pitch is the distance between each "wave" in a soundwave. Closer together waves sound higher, farther apart waves are lower pitched. Take a ruler and a pencil, and make a horizontal line of dots left to right, with each dot being one inch apart from the others. Then take your pencil and draw a wave shape that goes up/down thru each dot. Then go down the page some and make the exact same line of dots with the same spacing, but draw the wave differently this time. There are a bazillion different ways you could draw this wave that would still cross thru your one inch spaced dots. You could make a really tall wave, a really short wave, a curvy wave, a spiky wave.. etc.. and each wave will sound different than the others, but as long as they all are spaced one inch apart they will have the same pitch.
So the top layer of the groove is the left vibrations and the bottom is the right. So my left ear listens to the top layer and my right to the top. Are those grooves like real sound waves?
my friend, first thanks. Now, please help, if u can: Ur explanation covers only part of the process, da main questions everybody keep asking in da comments r: 1. How does a scratch on a vynil capture all da sound information (let's say a whole orchestra)? 2. How can a piece of vinyl n some coils n electricity can replay all da sound information (full orchestra)?
I just copy paste my original comment as it's basically the same question in this whole comment section. When you listen to stereo music you literally only have 2 channels. In modern day DAW (audio software) some producers/audio engineers mix up to, sometimes even more then 100 channels, into only 2! Imagine, when listening to mono music (like the built-in speaker of your smartphone or when you're not in the right listening spot) you're listening to just 1 channel of audio! In other words, you can differentiate all these instruments out of 1 single audio channel reaching your ears. Even the concept of what is an instrument in an audio recording is to some degree arbitrary. When you're à kid with no knowledge about certain instruments & timbres, you don't classify/define the sounds your shearing as certain instruments, you just hear the whole. We humans define what we're hearing as certain instruments, based on knowledge of and prior listening experience. In the studio certain instruments are layered. So what you believe to be 1 specific instrument might be mixed in the studio as 20 separate tracks, yet you personally experience/define it as 1 specific, definable instrument. Because in the end, it's just a sound wave, subjectively interpreted by our human brains. (good nor bad music don't physically exist, it's a subjective experience by the individual listener or the group of listeners) To an alien listening to a stereo vinyl recording, it will probably just sound as random noise. To YOU, it sounds like drums, bass & guitar. You can study this with ethnic music. When certain tribes were studied, they perceived both major as minor western tuned triad chords as neutral. A lot of musical perspective is purely subjective and ingrained by the place & time you were born, with what sounds/music you grew up with. I play shakuhachi (a traditional Japanese instrument) and I can tell you that the traditional repertoire isn't what you probably perceive as 'music'/expect music to be. There's an emphasis on different sound colors and usually an absence of metered tempo. The moments where you breathe for example, are actually part of the piece. Certain 'notes' like an ou and a chi meri, besides having relative pitch differing from one instrument to another, have the same pitch in western terms but a vastly different sound and are notated and described as being actual different tones. Meri notes are supposed to sound less forceful (taijitu principle, yin & yang like in Taoism which comes back in zen traditions) and more melancholic like. In comparison, the tones on a western concert flute are supposed to have a consistent timbre, the tones on a shakuhachi are supposed to differ in timbre. Different musical traditions, although the shakuhachi wasn't initially a musical instrument, nowadays it is. I like to call the shakuhachi an acoustic synthesizer for that reason. haha. :) In Japan they have called it the instrument of the ten thousand sounds. Sounds like a synth ! Our modern day, western, equal temperament, 12 tone, octave based, exponential pitch perception based, A=440 Hz, way of playing music is just one of many ways you can play/'make' music. Or another viewpoint is that of synesthesia. I associate certain frequencies with certain colors. Music is like a canvas/palette to me, with higher notes being actually higher up on the painting and echoey & reverberating sounds extending inward the canvas like a 3D painting. Certain purer sounds with less overtones like a simple sine wave are more rounded while more complex sounds tend to look more squiggly and spikey. I love synthesizer music, especially from the 80's. I'm not surprised myself with all the different kinds of timbres and layers that make the pallette full of colors and different kinds of strokes (like a paint brush) and squiggles. And so on... Of course this is associative, what's usually referred to as 'true' synesthesia is actually seeing sounds or actually feeling sounds or actually tasting words, etc. So in other words, I'm probably not what they clinically describe as a synesthete. It't something that grows with me and didn't come out of the blue or has always been there, hence associative. And it's not always there in my mind. Higher quality sound does rend to help. With closed eyes it becomes a bit clearer as well though. Most people actually tend to describe music and sounds in general in synesthetic ways, like 'warm', 'hollow', 'huge', 'in your face', 'pumping', 'muddy', etc. In short, your brain turns the noise coming out of 2 channels (or 1 or more then 2 when surround) into defined instruments because you learned to associate certain noise with a certain image. When you hear a guitar, you're also seeing it, thinking about it. When an alien hears that same guitar, he/she/it doesn't hear a guitar, it hears noise. (or their own instruments if they happen to also have musical traditions, if they can hear sound waves in the first place that is, maybe they see microwaves and taste sound waves like a human synesthete, maybe they're not even carbon based...) Sound is just a vibration of molecules, usually air, after all. YOUR BRAIN TURNS THAT SOUND INTO DEFINED INSTRUMENTS AND MAKES YOU FEEL THINGS * To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears? The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it). In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images. * To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears? The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it). In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images. Now this is my personal explanation. So I hope I make sense and don't spread misinformation. Personally I wouldn't know how this would work otherwise. This is just how vibrations tend to work. The vinyl contains an imprint of the sound. The amplification and speakers bring it into the air around us. Our brain makes the music.
@@kjell159 Thank u my friend! 4 taking da time 2 share this explanation, also I learned about da Shakuhachi or ancient synthesizer lol! It totally makes sense what u mention: Music is vibrations that our brain interprets like specific instruments beign played. That pretty much replies my first question. Asfor da 2nd, I'm still not close 2 understand how a vinyl n a simple needle can replicate a complex vivration (made by complex instruments) Metaphorically it's like: How can I paint a landscape full of multiple colors, using only a pencil. I hope u can help me understand it. Ps. Japan is awesome!
Rephrasing question #2: What does da gramophone have/use that da human body doesn't for capturing n reproducing da whole vivrations of a full orchestra????? We capture trough our ears n neurons n reproduce by voice, how r a tin n a needlee more capable than our body 4 this means. Maybe we r not hearing da full spectrum of vivrations? Why our vocal folds can only reproduce "monotrack" instead of multi or full orchestra like da grammy?
okay, my question... why wouldn't you have a right side needle and a left side needle, or a split needle? it would seem to me that if the right and the left side of a single needle had to "battle" with each other for vibration, some of the left would cancle the right and vice versa?
Ok. So I watched the video and I still have questions. How tf did it work in the early years before speakers, when that giant horn was attached? And also, can you explain it to me like I'm 5?
So Cool, i learned so much in 3 mins... Thanks Broooo... i grew up in the 90's and i swear i use too just analyze the records how they would just spin, and always wonder how music would come out.
First of all, love the video. May I ask tho’, where can I get those cool vinyl display “hangers” you have back there on the wall? I’m thinking about every single and pretty possible way to display some of the best ones I own and this is something I would really want. The ones on amazon doesn’t hold them from the side like the ones you have, so I can’t find any “identical” ones. Thank you!
Great video and very informative. Maybe you should do a video about different kinds of cartridges, not just moving magnet. Great channel and keep up the good work. God bless!
Thank you everybody for commenting that they too like me didn't comprehend how vibrations finally turned into music. I take solace in the fact that I'm not the only scientifically challenged one around😂
Wow, this is a really good video. I'm a CD collector, but I've always wondered how records work. Thanks for presenting the information in an easy to understand way. It's always great to lean something new!
This is just endlessly fascinating that Bell hapoened upon this stuff and how its based on electomagnetic induction discovered by Faraday. I just cant put my finger on why it works tho
The humans that invented the record deserve alot of credit. Its very complex especially for such an old technology
Facts
@@thirdrayle no printer
@@kawaki1207 bye 💀 don’t bring this to TH-cam 😭
@@sanudajayasinghe3357 LMAOOO
It’s truly incredible, I’ve been staring at these old records for years wondering . Thanks TH-cam lol I have many records but no record player. Searching
This is great. I've always wanted to know how a record player works. And now I still have absolutely no idea.! Thanks!
Lol right! Like HOW do the groves turn into so many sounds!?!?
Fr how do vocals come out like I’d be more chill if it was just random notes of instruments but syllables and shiz is heard and not to mention it doesn’t loop the same phrase it plays full songs how does that work
Wait till you realize that as long as you can code the groves to make vocals and instrument sounds, real vocals and instruments aren’t really necessary. The groves sending signals to the speakers can reproduce any sound.
TRUEEEEEE! HAHAHA
So if I have a blank record I can just etch grooves in it and potentially create a musical masterpiece? I just find it astonishing that simply making grooves in vinyl can replicate drums, bass, vocals, etc
A needle attached to a papercone works
To the average consumer a blank record would be better used for correctly setting the anti-skate dial on a turntable.
You could, but you likely wouldn't hear what you'd expect. The exact vibrations of the music are etched into the vinyl when pressed. You could certainly try your own etching as Thomas edison did, but you still need to amplify it to hear it properly.
@@THEBATMAN28AHH not only that you would have to etch the grooves in such a way that botch sides on the needle get their share
@@rene.flores9466 to get stereo yes, but for mono audio whatever you etch is fine.
So, since every single explanation of how grooves on a piece of plastic become music makes it all sound even more complicated, I'm just going to assume that it's magic.
Did you even watch the video?
@ignisan6560 I watched it and I understand where the OP here is still wondering how grooves, needle, etc, become music. All of the technical explanation in the video makes sense, but it's still mystifying how a groove on plastic contain accurately recorded sound. How the needle and electrical signals get picked up and everything makes sense, but the plastic groove part is still kind of amazingly mysterious.
@@chungkingexpress94 exactly! I understand the explanation, it just still doesn't seem adequate for some reason. Like, it's just grooves on plastic and you put a needle on them and electricity makes music happen. I get that. But I still don't completely understand. Lol
@andrewmettler2228 yup lol. Like how does the plastic groove have Led Zeplin recorded into it? Lol
It’s based on the principle that a varying magnetic field creates/produces an electric current . you can figure it out further on your own ig
No matter how many videos I watch on how to understand these, I will never understand. I do not comprehend lmao
I literally don’t understand how music is transferred to a record grove. It blows my mind.
@john templeplate how do you imprint sounds to a plastic?
@john templeplate I have questions
1. How many songs can fit into a Vinyl record?
2. If a Record can fit like 6 or more songs for ex. How is it that a 3 minute song can fit into a singe circular groove and the needle can still play the music even if it rotates back and forth?
Please scratch question number 2 if its not a circular groove
@john templeplate thats true i havent owned a record player yet lol only saw vinyl records. thanks thooo!
There is some physics that was not explained and honestly the topic is pretty confusing overall.
I would’ve loved to see the faces of the individuals who tried over & over to make this happen and finally make it happen
Yeah I still don’t understand how little groves make certain sounds and how that sound has different tones 🤷🏻♂️ I’m actually more confused than before 😂
This is my copied comment as this question popped up in the whole comment section haha:
When you listen to stereo music you literally only have 2 channels.
In modern day DAW (audio software) some producers/audio engineers mix up to, sometimes even more then 100 channels, into only 2!
Imagine, when listening to mono music (like the built-in speaker of your smartphone or when you're not in the right listening spot) you're listening to just 1 channel of audio!
In other words, you can differentiate all these instruments out of 1 single audio channel reaching your ears.
Even the concept of what is an instrument in an audio recording is to some degree arbitrary.
When you're à kid with no knowledge about certain instruments & timbres, you don't classify/define the sounds your shearing as certain instruments, you just hear the whole.
We humans define what we're hearing as certain instruments, based on knowledge of and prior listening experience.
In the studio certain instruments are layered. So what you believe to be 1 specific instrument might be mixed in the studio as 20 separate tracks, yet you personally experience/define it as 1 specific, definable instrument.
Because in the end, it's just a sound wave, subjectively interpreted by our human brains. (good nor bad music don't physically exist, it's a subjective experience by the individual listener or the group of listeners)
To an alien listening to a stereo vinyl recording, it will probably just sound as random noise.
To YOU, it sounds like drums, bass & guitar.
You can study this with ethnic music.
When certain tribes were studied, they perceived both major as minor western tuned triad chords as neutral. A lot of musical perspective is purely subjective and ingrained by the place & time you were born, with what sounds/music you grew up with.
I play shakuhachi (a traditional Japanese instrument) and I can tell you that the traditional repertoire isn't what you probably perceive as 'music'/expect music to be.
There's an emphasis on different sound colors and usually an absence of metered tempo. The moments where you breathe for example, are actually part of the piece.
Certain 'notes' like an ou and a chi meri, besides having relative pitch differing from one instrument to another, have the same pitch in western terms but a vastly different sound and are notated and described as being actual different tones.
Meri notes are supposed to sound less forceful (taijitu principle, yin & yang like in Taoism which comes back in zen traditions) and more melancholic like.
In comparison, the tones on a western concert flute are supposed to have a consistent timbre, the tones on a shakuhachi are supposed to differ in timbre. Different musical traditions, although the shakuhachi wasn't initially a musical instrument, nowadays it is.
I like to call the shakuhachi an acoustic synthesizer for that reason. haha. :)
In Japan they have called it the instrument of the ten thousand sounds.
Sounds like a synth !
Our modern day, western, equal temperament, 12 tone, octave based, exponential pitch perception based, A=440 Hz, way of playing music is just one of many ways you can play/'make' music.
Or another viewpoint is that of synesthesia.
I associate certain frequencies with certain colors.
Music is like a canvas/palette to me, with higher notes being actually higher up on the painting and echoey & reverberating sounds extending inward the canvas like a 3D painting. Certain purer sounds with less overtones like a simple sine wave are more rounded while more complex sounds tend to look more squiggly and spikey.
I love synthesizer music, especially from the 80's. I'm not surprised myself with all the different kinds of timbres and layers that make the pallette full of colors and different kinds of strokes (like a paint brush) and squiggles.
And so on...
Of course this is associative, what's usually referred to as 'true' synesthesia is actually seeing sounds or actually feeling sounds or actually tasting words, etc.
So in other words, I'm probably not what they clinically describe as a synesthete. It't something that grows with me and didn't come out of the blue or has always been there, hence associative. And it's not always there in my mind. Higher quality sound does rend to help.
With closed eyes it becomes a bit clearer as well though.
Most people actually tend to describe music and sounds in general in synesthetic ways, like 'warm', 'hollow', 'huge', 'in your face', 'pumping', 'muddy', etc.
In short, your brain turns the noise coming out of 2 channels (or 1 or more then 2 when surround) into defined instruments because you learned to associate certain noise with a certain image.
When you hear a guitar, you're also seeing it, thinking about it.
When an alien hears that same guitar, he/she/it doesn't hear a guitar, it hears noise. (or their own instruments if they happen to also have musical traditions, if they can hear sound waves in the first place that is, maybe they see microwaves and taste sound waves like a human synesthete, maybe they're not even carbon based...)
Sound is just a vibration of molecules, usually air, after all. YOUR BRAIN TURNS THAT SOUND INTO DEFINED INSTRUMENTS AND MAKES YOU FEEL THINGS
* To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears?
The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it).
In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images.
* To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears?
The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it).
In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images.
Now this is my personal explanation. So I hope I make sense and don't spread misinformation. Personally I wouldn't know how this would work otherwise. This is just how vibrations tend to work. The vinyl contains an imprint of the sound. The amplification and speakers bring it into the air around us. Our brain makes the music.
kjell159 I’m confused on a whole other dimension now ,but thanks 🤣
@@XAGR-hn3qt I'm confused why everyone is so confused?
@@kylehill3643 how similar looking grooves make different effects
@@kjell159 nice
This is so interesting. I've always wondered how they worked. My guess was that there were ridges but had no idea how they were interpreted. Thank you so much for this simple explanation
so some sounds waves sound like a guitar and some sound waves sound like like Leonel Richie? needs more explanation.
Yeah thats what i was wondering... Sbout how the black disc records people in the first place to make grroves accordingly. Can someone give an explanation of how the grooves are calculated?
Not really. The fact that one sound waves sounds like a guitar and another sounds like Lionel Richie has nothing to do with vinyl records and everything to do with the waveform. Vinyl, being an analogue medium simply stores the waveform 'as is' in the grooves of the record.
How does it require more explanation? It’s the same principle whether it is in the record or the actual real sound wave.
if we analyze the 'one vibration' made by the needle, when I sing while playing guitar and my son screaming plus the heater buzzing and birds tweeting - all at the same 1/nth second. It's just one small scratch on a plastic....how come it can store all that info?
These vibrations are just vibrations. Your brain is what interprets the soundwaves as different instruments.
How is soprano, bass, vocals, etc etched in the plastic? How does the plastic hold the memory of the sounds? I get vibration, but how are different frequencies keep inside the PVC groove? In the groove, you have a singer a guitarist, drummer, all at the same time but the diamond going over the pastic can then separate those individual sounds? I just don't get it.
joe budi there is a thing called “mix” in studios.
Yeah same that is what I was looking for too.
I'm researching this as well. It's so interesting that even the most complicated soundwave is actually such a very simple binary piece of information. No matter how many different tones and pitches our ears can decipher.
@@caseycolson4252 in a groove pressed into a hot vinyl plate!!! Wow!
exactly! people wanna know how these "grooves" can send vocals through the needle let alone a specific voice and words? this dude answered nothing
If you are confused: Just imagine the grooves on a vinyl record as a soundwave, because it is basically a soundwave cutted into the record. And a soundwave contains alreade all the sounds, for example the beat, the melody, the instruments, the vocal at the same time. Also the needle goes left right and up and down
I understand how the grooves in the record translate to sound but I don’t understand how each groove is able to capture multiple different overlapping tones at the same time such as vocals, bass, and guitar that are being played simultaneously
If you are confused: Just imagine the grooves on a vinyl record as a soundwave, because it is basically a soundwave cutted into the record. And a soundwave contains alreade all the sounds, for example the beat, the melody, the instruments, the vocal at the same time. Also the needle goes left right and up and down, left right is one channel, up down is the another
DANG IT MAN. I was doing so good studying but I JUST HAD TO go on TH-cam. "Oh look a Vinyl Eyezz video Ive never seen i would be so delighted to watch this." I SAID THIS 20 MINUTES AGO MAN. NOW IM STUCK IN TH-cam PRISON THANKS TO YOU.
+Max Kanaszka haha :)
20 minutes? You got off easy, I've been stuck in here for years!😩
the artist wait what
I'm stuck in TH-cam and can't get out😝
Nice im literally listening to elvis on vinyl while watching this lol
i just binge watched every video of yours. I'm just getting into vinyl and these are by far the best videos I've come across. :) definitely going to give a sub
Thanks so much Kyle! That's why I make them! So everyone will have a great community to be a part of!
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I’m still confused as to how that makes a song. Are the grooves made to produce the exact sounds that make the song or are they just triggers to something else that plays the song?
I’m not a part of this community; I just wanted to understand how vinyl records work. But this TH-camr has a great voice and cadence
now i can sleep peacefully :D thanks
A technical correction. In a stereo cartridge the moving element, in this case a moving magnet, is at the focal point of a 90 degree triangle where adjacent and opposite lines are made up of two sensing coils. Movement in the left track will cause the moving element to move toward and away from the left coil thus changing the magnetic flux coil and causing an induced electric current in it. As it is moving to and fro vis a vis the left coil it must then be moving accross the right coil. However, such movement will not alter the magnetic flux in the right sensor coil and therefore no current will be induced into it. For this to work as faithfully as possible, the moving element must be positioned exactly at the focal point of the two sensors. This is one of the reasons why tracking force is so important. Too light ot too heavy and the moving element will be out of position.
It's strange that there are so few likes
I've just finished a rewatch of the final episode of the anime Dr. Stone, in which they create a rudimentary record player from stone age materials, and I was left with wanting to understand the base principle of how it works more clearly, so I ended up on this video. I've got to say, I don't think I could find anything that's easier to understand than this; you've really explained in simple terms and simple illustrations, and it made it so easy to understand. I can now go to bed having learned yet another cool thing, thanks to you! ^^
Could have saved time by telling us it's Dark Magic
This is a great video about "Stereo" records. You should do one about "Mono" and "Quad". The Quadrophonic system (very short lived) was quite complicated. Not only did the needle (stylus) move side to side, but up and down. The effect was amazing. Many artists actually recorded completely different versions of their albums for the Quad releases. The whole system was an early production of "Surround Sound" If you ever get a chance to hear one, it's quite a thrill. Unfortunately there were too many bugs in the format, and it just died away. There were also "Quad 8-tracks" which used 4 tracks instead of 2 for the recording, so instead of 4 playing positions, there were only 2. These sounded great in a car, and had your ears spinning around the passenger compartment. Again a short lived format.
The stylus moves horizontally and vertically in all stereo records. That's how the stereo signal is formed: each channel is encoded in a diagonal (and the lateral movement produces a sum of both signals, and that's why you can play a stereo record in a mono player and vice versa). Quadrophonic records used supersonic signals to carry the additional information that allows the separation between front and back. That's why those records demanded special equipment to be played.
Well explained...I am familiar with the concept, but poor at explaining the complete picture. Thanks for clarifying it.
So how does it make different sounds and signals if the only options are left or right
Excellent video Jarrett. I wanted to do a video like this myself for people new to record collecting, but I don't think I could've explained it better in simple terms.
+Funky Moose Records Glad you liked it dude!
Sooooo much better than the "basics" video you posted, for a new beginner this is way more informative.
Fairly new subscriber here. I've been loving your videos so far, new and old :)
BTW I love the Kung Fury frame in the background!! I have that album as well. I love soundtrack albums!
I have been listening to music since the disco era and was today years old when I learned this. Thanks 😮😊 😅
For those still wondering how the sound gets produced, realize that all sound is simply a vibration. When the needle vibrates on the record grooves, the "sound" is simply the speakers translating the vibrations into what we perceive as music.
Yesterday when I explained the sound recording to the professor in your language, they were also surprised
The question just popped in my mind in the middle of online class and I can't get rid of it lmao
How are sound waves converted to a press to make records though?
I am actually new to LPs and I am obsessed with buying LPs. It is like this feeling of "I WANT MORE". Hahahahha...but I asked myself the question of this video as well, I knew it had something to the with grooves, but how the grooves get "converted" to music or music into grooves --> NO CLUE. But now I know! Thank you!!
+Alexandra Gomes Sure thing! Glad you liked the video!
I never really thought about it, but music is pretty scientific. You have to experiment with things, and eventually you find a thing that sounds good, and you try to understand how to make more sounds that sound good and then you need a way to share these sounds with others and somehow along the way they discovered the harmonic nature of sound.
the fact that this was invented however many years ago, is mind blowing. it's genius
Humans are great
You missed an important point about the phono stage (pre-amp), this must also perform a frequency correction called RIAA equalisation. Vinyl is recorded with a bass suppression, RIAA boosts this back on reply. This is important, many people new to vinyl need to understand that a phono pre-amp or phono stage must be used.
if we analyze the 'one vibration' made by the needle, when I sing while playing guitar and my son screaming plus the heater buzzing and birds tweeting - all at the same 1/nth second. It's just one small scratch on a plastic....how come it can store all that info?
Exactly my question.... how do the grooves convert to sound waves? How does a sound wave become a physical object representation?
@@Music_Head Sound waves combine into a single wave form made up of waves of different frequencies. It takes math to understand how this works (wave equations), and even deeper quantum mechanics to understand why. Bottom line the sound is a single composite wave that your brain can decompose into individual sounds because your brain is God's most astounding creation.
Matt good point. But do you think the carving into the vinyl is the same as a great sculpture work of art? Let’s say there was a super human genius who could carve vinyl records by hand. Pretend he could make exact replicas. Now if he decided to make a little change in the pattern (and if he knew what he was doing) could he add a new instrument to the composition or change a melody line all by the sculpture he is carving into the vinyl? Or is there something more here going on with the sound besides the physical carving representation?
@@Music_Head Not an expert but I would say that is what synthesizers are, they let you manipulate sound waves by changing them in various ways to produce different sounds. The final wave you end up with would be scratched into the vinyl to make a record. Music is definitely the ultimate combination of art and science.
I just copy paste my original comment as it's basically the same question in this whole comment section.
When you listen to stereo music you literally only have 2 channels.
In modern day DAW (audio software) some producers/audio engineers mix up to, sometimes even more then 100 channels, into only 2!
Imagine, when listening to mono music (like the built-in speaker of your smartphone or when you're not in the right listening spot) you're listening to just 1 channel of audio!
In other words, you can differentiate all these instruments out of 1 single audio channel reaching your ears.
Even the concept of what is an instrument in an audio recording is to some degree arbitrary.
When you're à kid with no knowledge about certain instruments & timbres, you don't classify/define the sounds your shearing as certain instruments, you just hear the whole.
We humans define what we're hearing as certain instruments, based on knowledge of and prior listening experience.
In the studio certain instruments are layered. So what you believe to be 1 specific instrument might be mixed in the studio as 20 separate tracks, yet you personally experience/define it as 1 specific, definable instrument.
Because in the end, it's just a sound wave, subjectively interpreted by our human brains. (good nor bad music don't physically exist, it's a subjective experience by the individual listener or the group of listeners)
To an alien listening to a stereo vinyl recording, it will probably just sound as random noise.
To YOU, it sounds like drums, bass & guitar.
You can study this with ethnic music.
When certain tribes were studied, they perceived both major as minor western tuned triad chords as neutral. A lot of musical perspective is purely subjective and ingrained by the place & time you were born, with what sounds/music you grew up with.
I play shakuhachi (a traditional Japanese instrument) and I can tell you that the traditional repertoire isn't what you probably perceive as 'music'/expect music to be.
There's an emphasis on different sound colors and usually an absence of metered tempo. The moments where you breathe for example, are actually part of the piece.
Certain 'notes' like an ou and a chi meri, besides having relative pitch differing from one instrument to another, have the same pitch in western terms but a vastly different sound and are notated and described as being actual different tones.
Meri notes are supposed to sound less forceful (taijitu principle, yin & yang like in Taoism which comes back in zen traditions) and more melancholic like.
In comparison, the tones on a western concert flute are supposed to have a consistent timbre, the tones on a shakuhachi are supposed to differ in timbre. Different musical traditions, although the shakuhachi wasn't initially a musical instrument, nowadays it is.
I like to call the shakuhachi an acoustic synthesizer for that reason. haha. :)
In Japan they have called it the instrument of the ten thousand sounds.
Sounds like a synth !
Our modern day, western, equal temperament, 12 tone, octave based, exponential pitch perception based, A=440 Hz, way of playing music is just one of many ways you can play/'make' music.
Or another viewpoint is that of synesthesia.
I associate certain frequencies with certain colors.
Music is like a canvas/palette to me, with higher notes being actually higher up on the painting and echoey & reverberating sounds extending inward the canvas like a 3D painting. Certain purer sounds with less overtones like a simple sine wave are more rounded while more complex sounds tend to look more squiggly and spikey.
I love synthesizer music, especially from the 80's. I'm not surprised myself with all the different kinds of timbres and layers that make the pallette full of colors and different kinds of strokes (like a paint brush) and squiggles.
And so on...
Of course this is associative, what's usually referred to as 'true' synesthesia is actually seeing sounds or actually feeling sounds or actually tasting words, etc.
So in other words, I'm probably not what they clinically describe as a synesthete. It't something that grows with me and didn't come out of the blue or has always been there, hence associative. And it's not always there in my mind. Higher quality sound does rend to help.
With closed eyes it becomes a bit clearer as well though.
Most people actually tend to describe music and sounds in general in synesthetic ways, like 'warm', 'hollow', 'huge', 'in your face', 'pumping', 'muddy', etc.
In short, your brain turns the noise coming out of 2 channels (or 1 or more then 2 when surround) into defined instruments because you learned to associate certain noise with a certain image.
When you hear a guitar, you're also seeing it, thinking about it.
When an alien hears that same guitar, he/she/it doesn't hear a guitar, it hears noise. (or their own instruments if they happen to also have musical traditions, if they can hear sound waves in the first place that is, maybe they see microwaves and taste sound waves like a human synesthete, maybe they're not even carbon based...)
Sound is just a vibration of molecules, usually air, after all. YOUR BRAIN TURNS THAT SOUND INTO DEFINED INSTRUMENTS AND MAKES YOU FEEL THINGS
* To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears?
The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it).
In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images.
* To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears?
The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it).
In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images.
Now this is my personal explanation. So I hope I make sense and don't spread misinformation. Personally I wouldn't know how this would work otherwise. This is just how vibrations tend to work. The vinyl contains an imprint of the sound. The amplification and speakers bring it into the air around us. Our brain makes the music.
Thank you, record players have perplexed me for such a long time.
What stylus do you use/recommend? What's the difference between magnet and phonograph cartridges?
+Erik Wehner I use the Ortofon 2M Red! It's a great little cartridge with lots of texture and detail. I'll make a video about the differences between those two cartridges soon!
+Vinyl Eyezz Thank you! I'll be on the lookout for that video. Keep up the good work, I appreciate that you actually take the time to reply to peoples comments; excellent content as always.
+Erik Wehner thanks for watching my videos! Of course! I welcome good comments and feedback! :)
You might be surprised at just how old all of our technology is. Quantum mechanics was well established before we had cars!
I'm not surprised for the new recorder I'm surprised for this old recorder. Because that's how it works with a needle. And how it makes sound
This is 3rd video I've watched on YT about "how vinyl disc" work and finally I got satisfied answer. Good work, thanks :)
Finally a better explanation
Why does the left coil send signals to the left channel and the right coil sends signals to the right channel? what is the purpose of it? I mean I understood everything in the video except that part. I need help, please.
someone reply please, I know I'm a bit late from 2015 but whatever.
Am I the only one that think records are much more complicated than cd/tape
You learn something new everyday, dude I always wondered how
this is me searching for how vinyl record works because i have been buying vinyl without the understanding of how it works
Whats to stop me from using a needle to etch grooves in a record? How does that create the sound of a guitar or other instrument?
so does it mean that to make a PVC for a particular sound, the grooves must be produced accordingly?
Thanks Jarrett! I shared this to our Audio FB page. Hope you get lots of likes!
Awesome! Thanks so much for sharing my video!
I seem to have the concept, but I am amazed at the genius of those who originally invented the technology.
Man jarrett you have grown alot in a little bit of time you were at like 530 subs now 711 that just shows how great your videos are. And my dad has way more records than you probably... I really appreciate the content
+Marcusd1213 haha glad you liked that little joke. I'm so happy people are liking my videos! I'm definitely trying my best to keep bringing you guys the best stuff I can :) Thank you for watching
+Vinyl Eyezz And in 5 months, you have 6k subs :O
GG MAN!!
68 K now, almost 70!
7 years later.. 228k subs
Best explanation I have found !
what determines which coil the magnet is vibrated towards or is it just random? By left channel does he mean left speaker?
Then are those grove lines in the form of Coil in the disc?
Thank you. When vinyl eyezz explains how a record player produces the sound from a record, vinyl mentions a boost before the vibrations get seperated into left and right and we hear a sound (in theory). I wonder what the boost is like? Anyone have thoughts on this?
Goodness, you explained this way better than BBC's video
But how does it measure what note is being played, or the tone of the sound coming through??? The movement of the needle can tell it how loud AND what sound is being played? HOW?!
So I understand the how these different vibrations make different pitches that can be played audibly, but I don’t understand how a record player and vinyl is able to differentiate the sound produced by a trumpet and a vocalist playing at the same pitch....?
There are an infinite number of waveform shapes that will change the sound, they're not all perfect sine waves. You could sing a particular note, and then sing the same exact note but in your best Eddie Vedder impression voice, and then say your dog steps into the room and howls that exact same note. All three of these soundwaves will have the same frequency (because they're all the same note, or pitch) but the shapes of the waveforms will be quite different.
Frequency/pitch is the distance between each "wave" in a soundwave. Closer together waves sound higher, farther apart waves are lower pitched. Take a ruler and a pencil, and make a horizontal line of dots left to right, with each dot being one inch apart from the others. Then take your pencil and draw a wave shape that goes up/down thru each dot. Then go down the page some and make the exact same line of dots with the same spacing, but draw the wave differently this time. There are a bazillion different ways you could draw this wave that would still cross thru your one inch spaced dots. You could make a really tall wave, a really short wave, a curvy wave, a spiky wave.. etc.. and each wave will sound different than the others, but as long as they all are spaced one inch apart they will have the same pitch.
So the top layer of the groove is the left vibrations and the bottom is the right. So my left ear listens to the top layer and my right to the top. Are those grooves like real sound waves?
*I appreciate how you explained it so very much! Shows that you understand it well! Thank you!*
If it's just that high and low frequency, it's understandable. But what I really wonder is how the vocals get into the record?
Random passerby. Just wanted to say this was a great video you answered all of my questions about the voodoo that is record players.
Finally a video that explains everything.
after the vibration of magnet from the needle are the induced magnetic fields from coils that make magnet to oscilate?
Brilliant and simple explanation, thank you. And thank you for not taking 18 minutes to do so
How is the same groove able to carry musical notes and voice at the same time?
my friend, first thanks. Now, please help, if u can: Ur explanation covers only part of the process, da main questions everybody keep asking in da comments r:
1. How does a scratch on a vynil capture all da sound information (let's say a whole orchestra)?
2. How can a piece of vinyl n some coils n electricity can replay all da sound information (full orchestra)?
I just copy paste my original comment as it's basically the same question in this whole comment section.
When you listen to stereo music you literally only have 2 channels.
In modern day DAW (audio software) some producers/audio engineers mix up to, sometimes even more then 100 channels, into only 2!
Imagine, when listening to mono music (like the built-in speaker of your smartphone or when you're not in the right listening spot) you're listening to just 1 channel of audio!
In other words, you can differentiate all these instruments out of 1 single audio channel reaching your ears.
Even the concept of what is an instrument in an audio recording is to some degree arbitrary.
When you're à kid with no knowledge about certain instruments & timbres, you don't classify/define the sounds your shearing as certain instruments, you just hear the whole.
We humans define what we're hearing as certain instruments, based on knowledge of and prior listening experience.
In the studio certain instruments are layered. So what you believe to be 1 specific instrument might be mixed in the studio as 20 separate tracks, yet you personally experience/define it as 1 specific, definable instrument.
Because in the end, it's just a sound wave, subjectively interpreted by our human brains. (good nor bad music don't physically exist, it's a subjective experience by the individual listener or the group of listeners)
To an alien listening to a stereo vinyl recording, it will probably just sound as random noise.
To YOU, it sounds like drums, bass & guitar.
You can study this with ethnic music.
When certain tribes were studied, they perceived both major as minor western tuned triad chords as neutral. A lot of musical perspective is purely subjective and ingrained by the place & time you were born, with what sounds/music you grew up with.
I play shakuhachi (a traditional Japanese instrument) and I can tell you that the traditional repertoire isn't what you probably perceive as 'music'/expect music to be.
There's an emphasis on different sound colors and usually an absence of metered tempo. The moments where you breathe for example, are actually part of the piece.
Certain 'notes' like an ou and a chi meri, besides having relative pitch differing from one instrument to another, have the same pitch in western terms but a vastly different sound and are notated and described as being actual different tones.
Meri notes are supposed to sound less forceful (taijitu principle, yin & yang like in Taoism which comes back in zen traditions) and more melancholic like.
In comparison, the tones on a western concert flute are supposed to have a consistent timbre, the tones on a shakuhachi are supposed to differ in timbre. Different musical traditions, although the shakuhachi wasn't initially a musical instrument, nowadays it is.
I like to call the shakuhachi an acoustic synthesizer for that reason. haha. :)
In Japan they have called it the instrument of the ten thousand sounds.
Sounds like a synth !
Our modern day, western, equal temperament, 12 tone, octave based, exponential pitch perception based, A=440 Hz, way of playing music is just one of many ways you can play/'make' music.
Or another viewpoint is that of synesthesia.
I associate certain frequencies with certain colors.
Music is like a canvas/palette to me, with higher notes being actually higher up on the painting and echoey & reverberating sounds extending inward the canvas like a 3D painting. Certain purer sounds with less overtones like a simple sine wave are more rounded while more complex sounds tend to look more squiggly and spikey.
I love synthesizer music, especially from the 80's. I'm not surprised myself with all the different kinds of timbres and layers that make the pallette full of colors and different kinds of strokes (like a paint brush) and squiggles.
And so on...
Of course this is associative, what's usually referred to as 'true' synesthesia is actually seeing sounds or actually feeling sounds or actually tasting words, etc.
So in other words, I'm probably not what they clinically describe as a synesthete. It't something that grows with me and didn't come out of the blue or has always been there, hence associative. And it's not always there in my mind. Higher quality sound does rend to help.
With closed eyes it becomes a bit clearer as well though.
Most people actually tend to describe music and sounds in general in synesthetic ways, like 'warm', 'hollow', 'huge', 'in your face', 'pumping', 'muddy', etc.
In short, your brain turns the noise coming out of 2 channels (or 1 or more then 2 when surround) into defined instruments because you learned to associate certain noise with a certain image.
When you hear a guitar, you're also seeing it, thinking about it.
When an alien hears that same guitar, he/she/it doesn't hear a guitar, it hears noise. (or their own instruments if they happen to also have musical traditions, if they can hear sound waves in the first place that is, maybe they see microwaves and taste sound waves like a human synesthete, maybe they're not even carbon based...)
Sound is just a vibration of molecules, usually air, after all. YOUR BRAIN TURNS THAT SOUND INTO DEFINED INSTRUMENTS AND MAKES YOU FEEL THINGS
* To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears?
The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it).
In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images.
* To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears?
The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it).
In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images.
Now this is my personal explanation. So I hope I make sense and don't spread misinformation. Personally I wouldn't know how this would work otherwise. This is just how vibrations tend to work. The vinyl contains an imprint of the sound. The amplification and speakers bring it into the air around us. Our brain makes the music.
@@kjell159 Thank u my friend! 4 taking da time 2 share this explanation, also I learned about da Shakuhachi or ancient synthesizer lol! It totally makes sense what u mention: Music is vibrations that our brain interprets like specific instruments beign played. That pretty much replies my first question. Asfor da 2nd, I'm still not close 2 understand how a vinyl n a simple needle can replicate a complex vivration (made by complex instruments) Metaphorically it's like: How can I paint a landscape full of multiple colors, using only a pencil. I hope u can help me understand it. Ps. Japan is awesome!
Rephrasing question #2: What does da gramophone have/use that da human body doesn't for capturing n reproducing da whole vivrations of a full orchestra?????
We capture trough our ears n neurons n reproduce by voice, how r a tin n a needlee more capable than our body 4 this means. Maybe we r not hearing da full spectrum of vivrations? Why our vocal folds can only reproduce "monotrack" instead of multi or full orchestra like da grammy?
okay, my question... why wouldn't you have a right side needle and a left side needle, or a split needle? it would seem to me that if the right and the left side of a single needle had to "battle" with each other for vibration, some of the left would cancle the right and vice versa?
What i dont undertand is how the sound is imprinted on a groove. All you need is a needle and a paper cone and it creates music its crazy
How is it that some Vinyl is louder than others at the same volume level?
Ok. So I watched the video and I still have questions. How tf did it work in the early years before speakers, when that giant horn was attached? And also, can you explain it to me like I'm 5?
I've been trying to figure out how records work. This video was great insight
How do you get to different hits at the same time?
I don’t want to die and I still don’t know how this works. I’m glad I’m here
Easy way.. Just imagine whole orchestra in there
Still don't know how an old record player works :) you know... without the speakers and preamplifiers :P
Big cone, that's about it,
So Cool, i learned so much in 3 mins... Thanks Broooo... i grew up in the 90's and i swear i use too just analyze the records how they would just spin, and always wonder how music would come out.
Couldn't multiple different kinds of sounds cause the same physical groove in the vinyl?
explained so beautifully🔥
I think the left side of the groove would move the stylus towards right coil and viceversa, try to emulate the movement with your own arm
First of all, love the video.
May I ask tho’, where can I get those cool vinyl display “hangers” you have back there on the wall? I’m thinking about every single and pretty possible way to display some of the best ones I own and this is something I would really want. The ones on amazon doesn’t hold them from the side like the ones you have, so I can’t find any “identical” ones. Thank you!
No one has answered this question and its driving me crazy. how does the record recreate the sound of a guitar or drums and instead of just a tone?
Please tell us someday about phono cartridge break in period. This is a a doubtful issue i've heard. Thanks!
I've heard a lot of people say 50 hours is a good break in period, but honestly it's a matter of opinion.
I love the noise a record player makes when its first play
Piezoelectricity!! Used in many many branches of science. Sweet I never guessed that
That is so amazing! How did someone even come up with that? 🤔
This is how records make sound. How do they make different songs? How does that affect the difference in the grooves?
very clear, finally ! thank you !
Awesomely understandable explanation. It’s really amazing how it all works and such vintage technology.
I was watching a film. Suddenly come here after seeing Gramophone in a Scene 😁
Great video and very informative. Maybe you should do a video about different kinds of cartridges, not just moving magnet. Great channel and keep up the good work. God bless!
That’s so cool. I still have no clue how it does it. I’ll just say ALIENS.
Thank you everybody for commenting that they too like me didn't comprehend how vibrations finally turned into music. I take solace in the fact that I'm not the only scientifically challenged one around😂
Do the grooves dictate the bpm?
The band performing the music probably does
So it's like physical midi?
Mind you they figured this out without AI . Straight genius
Wow, this is a really good video. I'm a CD collector, but I've always wondered how records work. Thanks for presenting the information in an easy to understand way. It's always great to lean something new!
This is just endlessly fascinating that Bell hapoened upon this stuff and how its based on electomagnetic induction discovered by Faraday. I just cant put my finger on why it works tho
good explenation. Liked it.