I have been accused of some heinous things over the course of this channel. Most of the time, I just let it go. However, some things need to be addressed. To insinuate that I never played any Halo games after Halo 3 is just a blow too low. How. Dare. You. I played so much Reach they called me the Team SWAT King. I cried at the ending right alongside all of you! AND THEN, I also played Halo 4! I think. I definitely own it...It's odd that I don't remember the Mantis...Okay, I just watched some of the opening mission, and I'm unsure now. But I just watched the Paramount+ series anyway and got all hyped up, so I think I'm gonna replay them all anyway. I'll check back! Okay was just poking around and YOU GET TO CONTROL A MANTIS?! Yeah, I never played Halo 4. Still, the accusations! How dare you all.
15:01 Hi, game developer here. Just wanted to say that it CAN work like that if they used cubemap reflections. Since cubemaps have to be baked into the map, unless you do a rebake the old reflections will still be there - even if you rearrange the geometry or change the assets.
@@benski1490 Instead of actually reflecting what's there, it acts more like a window that just happens to match what the area would look like in a mirror.
Someone might have already said this, but just a note: Jacksepticeye actually did so well in his first reading that they sent him MORE lines to add another clip of him in the second reaction section. He talks a bit about the process and his excitement with doing it in one of his videos. (Also, he's made a few really good short films as well)
15:00 game developer here. In some engines, working on specific settings, it defenitely works like that. I actually loved this as a reveal because it felt totally believable.
It's very believable. Reflections and lighting in games use all sorts of fakery. Genshin Impact had a similar thing happen, where an Island was supposed to be obscured until the next part of an in-game event, but the object obscuring it didn't render in screen space reflections, so you could see the entire island through reflections off the water.
Hell yeah! Adding to that, (for context so others know) because reflections used to be so expensive before raytracing (still are tbh) we usually just capture the general reflection of the area you're in ahead of time and store it in a panorama texture, which is applied to reflective surfaces, and most times, it's enough to sell the illusion :3
Yup, this is 100% something that could happen, although the advances in real-time raytracing are starting to make this kind of trickery around reflections somewhat obsolete.
This kind of glitch actually happened in Apex legends for like a year on World's Edge. There was a room at the top of sorting factory, and if you looked through a reflection inside that room you could see the downstairs area on the opposite side of the building. They eventually just removed the whole area the building was in.
My big wins in Free Guy that weren't mentioned: when jacksepticeye says "get up Guy" during the fight scene, always gives me chills, and the Bombshell character ending up with the Barista by the end
I’m glad you did this movie, I’ve loved it since I watched it in the theater, and have rewatched it many times. The part near the end when Guy says “I’m just a love letter to you” gets me every time.
am I the only one who thinks that dude's tattoo is not a tattoo but a a normal tshirt that they still didn't configure the right size since he wasn't finished yet?
You aren't the only one. It's a place holder asset that they haven't gotten around to replacing yet, just like, "Catchphrase!" "Friendly gesture," and Third thing here.
Never thought of that😂 also makes Sense that he just put the original game assets out of bounds instead of just deleting it cause he never expected someone to find it. The reflection even makes sense cause he could have set most items to not be reflective, but just forgot to turn the blinds non-reflective. So that's why Guy could see the island. Cause games are weird like that.
@@stickiedmin6508 Given Antwan is the type to think "Catchphrase" is an actual thing, it just showcases he's great at selling something but is clearly sterile when it comes to creating anything new or substantial.
So a few big things i love about the movie: 1: All the NPCs actors are more normal looking people vs the playable characters actors being traditional action stars [the only exception being Ryan Reynolds but he does look less action hero here] make for a good contrast. 2: all footage of the game from the "real world" or highlight footage is made to look like its from an actual game. Helps really sell the fact its a game itself. Much more fun than using regular live action footage.
Missed Win: The Marvel and Star Wars stuff happened because when Disney bought the studio midway through production, Reynolds went to them directly and was like "Hey, now that you own this can we use your props?"
This was the first movie I'd seen about games that felt like it really captured what players are like. A background detail I loved when I saw it was that dude who was jumping into the wall over and over again. If I recall correctly, he actually clips into the wall on the last jump before the scene cuts away. You'd never get that kind of gag from other video game themed movies; more often it's about scoring points or clearing levels like we're still playing Atari.
My biggest win for this movie is how Keys is the Real Version of Guy, and how Mouser is basically his Buddy. Mouser and Buddy are so bound to their jobs but when they finally see the truth in everything when they's Guy needs them the most; they turn their back on that job to help them. Also, Keys wore a literal blue shirt at the end. Dark Blue instead of Guy's Light Blue to reflect Keys being a more realistic and less carefree person compared to Guy. The symbolism is this movie is brilliant.
He’s also not wearing his glasses at the end !! He is reinvested in real life and his relationships within it- no longer relying on code to show how he feels !!
These are one of those films made for pure indulgence. It's got low stakes, it's got laughs, and a helluva needle drop that is pure earworm and I love it. It's also just a cute love story and in a film landscape that chases after massive returns and has blockbusters with scopes of universes it was fun just having a simple watch like this.
Free Guy is the only example of the "real person falls in love with AI" trope I've seen that actually sticks the landing, acknowledging that AI isn't real but still allowing the person to develop a healthy (and really sweet) relationship by the end.
Especially because the AI and the game itself were created because of the love the creators had for each other. It very easily could've fallen into creepy territory but thankfully it didn't.
I mean, that depends on the way the trope is played. Depending on the setting, AI characters can be fake, fully real people, sapient but incomprehensible different from humans, or none of the above.
@@heatherrockwell9012 Sure, it depends on the tone. I can watch Futurama and treat Bender the same as any human character, same with Ultron in Marvel or Zenyatta in Overwatch. But if a story is trying to take itself seriously and get the audience to question the sapience of artificial programs, it can be pretty immersion-breaking if the writers expect me to conclude that "yes, this AI has somehow become sapient through the power of love" (looking at you, Ex Machina).
I would argue that K having a loving, long term relationship with Joi in Blade Runner 2049 was also VERY well done and heartfelt. And that was 4 years before Free Guy. Whether or not you think K can be considered "human" is beside the point. He's human enough to live, love desire and hope...so I feel it fits.
This is one of those movies that even despite the fact it's kind of "terrible", I can't help but fall for just how honest it is about being cheesy and goofy. Film as art? Probably not, but film as entertainment? Absolutely.
Honestly the main things holding it back are The twitch cameos dating the movie The uninteresting side plot of the developers(reminds me a bit of inside out but even less compelling) And the ham fisted "look Corporate guy bad, captalism bad, please give us your brownie points" message at the end it could have been a block buster re imagining of the truman show for a modern audience
15:13 it depends on when the movie is set. Video game reflections didn't always work like real reflections. Older games just used a set image as a "reflection", and the image used didn't always reflect what the character in question was actually looking at. I still see this in some modern games when I set my graphics quality down to deal with lag/latency issues. Real-time reflection goes away, set-image-used-as-standard-reflection shows up.
To say I've been waiting for this is an understatement. I saw this movie with my boyfriend on our two year anniversary. We were having too much fun talking at the restaurant that we had to rush to the movie theater, and had missed the first couple minutes of the movie. It was dark and raining when we got out, and we shared an electric scooter back to his place. It was one of my favorite dates we had. He took his own life almost exactly two years ago, a month away from our three year anniversary. He means the world to me, and I miss him a lot
15:00 love how this one moment is bringing all the gamedevs in CinemaWins's audience out of the woodwork including me, my first reaction to that scene was "wow the people who wrote this script really _do_ know video games"
Actually reflective surfaces are really hard to do so a cheat is texturing reflective surfaces with what they’re supposed to reflect. So not scrubbing reflections would make sense. Edit: it is easier to handle reflections now. It’s just the excuse didn’t ring bs to me cuz I have just given up and baked the reflections into the texture.
They can also cause rendering weirdness even in cases where they _are_ handled dynamically. Just for an off-the-top-of-my-head example, Subnautica has a few surface islands scattered across its ocean world map, but they're hidden from the player behind a layer of fog until they get close enough. However, if you put yourself just deep enough that the surface of the water is at your camera level, you'll sometimes catch glimpses of the islands regardless of distance as the water level crosses your vision.
One of my favorite details about how Guy’s apartment is rushed can be seen on the wall at 14:57 where the calendar just skips the 4th day of the month.
For me, the secret biggest win of this movie is it being a video game movie ABOUT video games, all without featuring a specific real game as it center focus. Like, you would think Free City is a parody of GTA, Fortnite, Counter Strike or whatever, but nope, it's just a generic city location that features elements of recognizable real games. This more than anything helps to highlight the gamer culture within (and outside) the game, and show how people truly go around playing video games. You are not distracted by the thought of "that's not how things are in X game!", and it's much easier to accept the chaos and absurdity of the movie knowing "yup, that IS how people play Y games".
Im pretty sure Jack was supposed to only have 1 line in the whole movie, but he was the only youtuber who actually tried so they asked him to record several more lines.
15:00 fun fact: a lot of the time it actually DOES work like that most games have separate reflection-boxes that fake an actual reflection to save processing power... because simulating actual light bouncing is EXPENSIVE, and not really feasible to make on a moving thing. so yeah, not just plausible but happened a lot in games before, if you're really attentive you can see wrong reflections in scopes in a few shooters for instance :D
The game stuff being hidden in a reflection makes perfect sense to me. Many games "cheat" reflection by just making a copy of the room in reverse, and a clone of your player that mimics your moves in the opposite direction when you enter the room. Helps that there aren't any other NPCs reflected usually, to save on costs, but if you just do a flip it isn't too costly computationally
Gotta correct you Deadpool and wolverine are at least the third time that Ryan and Hugh have appeared together. But if you forgot that X-Men origins: wolverine exists, I won’t blame you. As they say, we often block out past traumas
Logan: "Wade? [Weapon XI stands ominously.] I see Stryker finally found a way to shut you up." [Deadpool's hand appears and shoots Weapon XI in the head] Deadpool: "Sorry, don't mind me. [Deadpool enters in full view.] Just cleaning up the timeline." [Deadpool makes a few more backhanded shots at Weapon XI's fallen body while still maintaining eye contact with Logan.]
And what was the movie Hugh & Ryan worked together that’s not X-Men related Edit: Wait Wait, the Hacker guy who gives the love interest is actually Hugh Jackman. Had no idea that was him… could’ve been Del Toro.
Also! The costuming of Millie & Keys in their last scene is so great! It's as close to her Molotov look as she wears in the real world, and Keys is in a Blue Shirt.
No because I LOVE this movie. The comedy is well done, the characters are believable and have realistic motivations, the relationships are handled really well, the soundtrack slaps, the references are AWESOME, etc. The Jodie Comer cover of Fantasy makes me cry every time.
Lee just wanted to mention how happy I am hearing you mention Tron Legacy in videos not about it . I just watched your Mitchells vs the Machines video where you mention it again and decided to watch this after and once again I was caught off guard by its mention at 14:06. It’s my favorite movie of all time and whenever I catch someone mentioning it in a good light it always makes me smile. Thank you for understanding how good of a movie it is. (And yes of course I’ve watched you E.G.A. Tron Legscy like 12 times.)❤
Greatly appreciate that whenever we see the game as seen by the IRL people, it's an actual CG render to look like a game albeit with a hyper realistic design.
10:21 Jodie comer is indeed from Liverpool however that was a Manchester accent shown to describe how her accent sounds when they couldn’t be further apart
One of my top favorite movies of 2022. Shawn Levy knows how to make a great film and the whole cast just does it so well! Ryan, Jodie, Lil Rel, Joe all give off fantastic performances
The mech at 1:10 is the Mantis from Halo 4 and 5 (I think the one here is specifically the H4 version). Which, to be fair, basically is a small Metal Gear.
Something that shocked me when I first saw it, but I really love, is that 'Millie' theme was originally used in a short called 'Paperman' it's such a beautiful, tender, love-filled theme, and I'm so glad that they used it again.
Personal headcannon and everyone feel free to copy: the Deadpool actor for the poster in the streamers wall, the guy that gave the clip up, is Henry cavil Deadpool from Deadpool and Wolverine. The “Free Guy” universe is that same variant universe.
So I struggle with a lot of derealization/depersonalization issues (basically feeling like I'm not real ect) and Buddy's speech literally changed how I think when I get moments like that. I still have those moments but I don't panic over them anymore. Also yes Sean's cameos were awesome and I love that he and Ryan are friendly
The end fight still gets me pumped. Just all the fun references that make me feel the same as when I first saw those franchises. Shame those franchises struggle to do the same today.
The whole "Forgot to scrub the reflections" Makes sense, there are a lot of games that just use the sky box or a image of the surroundings because thats just less intense on your pc/console.
"Everything GREAT About Free Guy!" Did you mean: the entire film? 17:42 Anyone else notice that Dude has maxed out cash, infinite health and infinite armour?
That scenes with Guy making it to Life Itself with Fantasy playing in the background and with Buddy and Guy at the end are the scenes that have come closest to bringing me to tears in recent movies so another +2 wins for me
The reflections absolutely work like that, the best example I can think of is every once in a while in Rainbow 6: Siege, in menu while it is totally it's own separate world, you can see the holding area for models occasionally which looks like a random parking garage.
Yeah, you can get all fancy with reflections by ray-tracing everything, or you can just create a second camera with inverted co-ordinates and render its view in place of the reflections. Or you can create a second copy of (parts of) the game world for use as reflections.
this movie was so entertaining... its like ryan watched "ready player one" and went "what if we took a bunch of online games and mashed them up into a world, but those NPC's don't know they aren't real". I sometimes question my actual life, am I really real or is life just a simulation playing out? Black mirror sort of tackled this with that dating app episode.
15:08 Actually, fun fact, it DOES often work like that. Rather than have the game constantly do the actual math, games will have copies of the environment past a mirror in earlier games, and then after that, they sometimes would have the game reference low res 2d pictures for what should be in the reflection. Super mario sunshine for example actually does have some features in some of its reflections that aren't present in the actual game.
You missed calling out the tear in her eye as we come out of the dutch tilt.. such a great little detail showing how much this change in behavior impacts her.
I actually saw this in theatres with some friends, and I remember thinking “Yeah, this looks fun.” And lo and behold, it was! But I also remember getting to the halfway point and being punched in the gut with how emotional it got. It went from a movie commenting on the game development industry and gaming culture to a weirdly philosophical look on what determines if something is real or not. The second half genuinely got me super emotional when I saw it the first time, and I almost cried during Guy and Buddy’s conversation in Buddy’s house.
I don't know if current games have gone realtime yet but, traditionally reflections are pre-baked into a texture map file and applied to all reflective surfaces as a static image so they don't have to be constantly calculated during play so the "not scrubbing the reflections" thing is actually pretty plausible.
15:03 Actually , those could be baked in reflections , games use that all the time when not using screen space reflections or ray tracing , saves on memory and actually makes sense for it to be forgotten while removal in such a tiny place of detail
The reflections-thing is actually kinda clever because before ray-tracing reflections weren't just reflecting the game world but were their own seperate maps that you had to change to change the reflection.
A very personal win for me with this movie: My favorite song ever is 'Paperman', the music for the animated short that played before Wreck-It Ralph in the theaters. The guy who composed it also did the music for Free Guy, and music was re-used in this movie for the love theme. I nearly teared up when I heard the first couple notes while watching this in theaters.
YES!!!! One lf my favourite feel good movies from the past few years. Also cant wait for you to make a Deapool 3 video, its gonna be a 30 min video I can tell already.
14:55 suprisingly this is pretty legit! For example in Apex Legends, someone found out the reflection coming off of scopes reflected the skybox of a different map tham what was currently being played. At first there was only one map, KC, but when you were in the firing range you would still get the reflections of KC and not the range. I loved this part because it felt pretty grounded in something directly observable in games.
I'm almost a little surprised we didn't get a CinemaWins for this sooner. (But I'm glad we have it now, this movie is fun) Fun fact, when I saw Free Guy in the theater, the projector had some sort of issue and turned off right when Guy went in to kiss Millie, but the audio was still going. One guy in the corner of the theater said "you can open your eyes now Guy" Just thought that was a fun little memory.
the reflection thing is actually more common in some gameplay designs because unlike real life reflections are not just the light bouncing back. so invisible objects that are there could still be effected by the algorithm that creates the reflection is not the same algorithm that made it hidden. (its bad coding but it still makes sense to the coding world)
15:03 There's about a billion different tricks around handling reflections in real-time applications, because handling them properly was pretty much impossible until raytracing hardware became a thing. Some of those tricks include an offline rendering step (which is expensive to run) that precomputes reflections in all possible directions and then stores them in a sort of lookup table (usually a sphere or cube texture) for further use. So this kind of thing is totally plausible to happen, especially when he wanted to be secretive about this stuff (and is somewhat generally incompetent)
Another cool background detail: at 1:33 if you pay attention to the green car driving in the back, in the next shot it is blue, and then switches to purple in the same shot, indicating that the player driving that car is customizing it while they’re driving!
About the reflections thing, this kind of glitch actually happened in Apex legends for like a year on World's Edge. There was a room at the top of sorting factory, and if you looked through a reflection inside that room you could see the downstairs area on the opposite side of the building. They eventually just removed the whole area the building was in.
I believe the "Spoonami" naming could also be a play on the still existing japanese "Konami" who are famous for multiple video game classics, as well as the "Konami cheat" being the up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, b, a, start - code! :D
Honestly free guy is one of my favorite surprise movies in a while! I didn’t expect anything from it I just watched it cuz Ryan was in it and I do love me a good video game movie. Oh man was I surprised by this movie! Story was great, had lots of fun references for a gamer like me the love story was very well done and one of the best in recent years imo. This movie is a solid 8/10 and I love it!
2:10 wrong Ryan Reynolds was in a movie with Hugh it’s called X-Men Origins: Wolverine he played Wade aka Deadpool but the bad version of Deadpool that we get the one we know and love in 2016
I gotta say Free Guy was amazing to me just off the concept of not having to go through life in a bland way. You are free to live how you want. Despite the struggles and problems in life. Even if we had every need and concern taken care of we still would want to seek out a unique life experience
I have a friend who works in game design and after watching this film he told me the missing to scrub the reflections moment is something he’s had to fix in the past
The reflections thing isn't completely unwarranted Some games don't reflect particles or affects meaning sometimes you can see straight through forests or fog I know specifically in Roblox, the relfection stat reflects the skybox, not what's around it
20:26 Okay, next week is going to be EGA Alien. Here's a list of suggestions to consider for future EGA videos: -The Rugrats Movie -Super 8 -Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008 Film) -Cloverfield -Shrek -Real Steel -Cars -Night at the Museum -Atlantis: The Lost Empire -The Flintstones (1994 Film)
My friend and I watched this together 3 years ago. We both giggled all the way through it. And then both had massive existential crisis afterwards. There are a lot of comments that this movie isn't actually that good, but anything that inspires that range of emotion is pretty fucking impactful
That thing with reflections is actually how it works in older games For example, in Mario Sunshine, Shadow Mario "reflects" an older layout of Bianco Hills, and in the prerendered scenes, an older version of Pinna Park The yellow eyes for Eely Mouth reflect a screenshot of an older version of that same map, with Mario in the center and everything else It's pretty cool because you can extract those textures and see changes that were made in the area that's shown!
The "forgot to scrub the reflections" line kinda makes sense. There are several ways to do reflections, but what she's referring to is "Baked reflections." like baked lighting, they're rendered to a texture (baked) before the game is released to the public and then math figures out which part of the image to use for the reflection. So regardless of what was changed, if the reflections weren't rebaked, whatever was there when the baking happened would still be there. It just doesn't make sense that the lighting wasn't ever re-baked.
“You love Kentucky Fried Chicken, right? If you love Kentucky Fried Chicken and I make Kentucky Fried Chicken, why would I make another restaurant called Albuquerque Boiled Turkey?”
The fact that Antwan immediately had that off the dome tells me he's either way more creative than the rest of the movie suggests (doubtful) or he used to work for KFC and wanted to leave and make his own "totally original" fast food place named that before he became a video game company CEO.
At 1:08 the "mech" is a Mantis from Halo4 and Halo 5, though due to those games popularity and reputation I can understand why you wouldn't know. Love ya CinemaWins, your stuff is awesome to watch!
I have been accused of some heinous things over the course of this channel. Most of the time, I just let it go. However, some things need to be addressed. To insinuate that I never played any Halo games after Halo 3 is just a blow too low. How. Dare. You. I played so much Reach they called me the Team SWAT King. I cried at the ending right alongside all of you! AND THEN, I also played Halo 4! I think. I definitely own it...It's odd that I don't remember the Mantis...Okay, I just watched some of the opening mission, and I'm unsure now. But I just watched the Paramount+ series anyway and got all hyped up, so I think I'm gonna replay them all anyway. I'll check back!
Okay was just poking around and YOU GET TO CONTROL A MANTIS?! Yeah, I never played Halo 4. Still, the accusations! How dare you all.
Play it.
You're not a real halo fan if you watched the paramount series
I thought you already did an ega free guy?
As a suggestion you should do the moovy it
i paused the second you called the mantis a generic mechy just to call you out but only to see you have already owned up tp your foolishness
15:01 Hi, game developer here.
Just wanted to say that it CAN work like that if they used cubemap reflections. Since cubemaps have to be baked into the map, unless you do a rebake the old reflections will still be there - even if you rearrange the geometry or change the assets.
However, both screenspace reflections and raytraced reflections will just reflect whatever surfaces are near them.
@@krisvelivia prebaked reflections?
I bet cubemap were used cause it was the easiest and anton is a lazy bastard
@@benski1490 Instead of actually reflecting what's there, it acts more like a window that just happens to match what the area would look like in a mirror.
You explained that in a way that I can tell you know what you’re talking about and you probably have a crippling caffeine addiction from earning it
Someone might have already said this, but just a note: Jacksepticeye actually did so well in his first reading that they sent him MORE lines to add another clip of him in the second reaction section. He talks a bit about the process and his excitement with doing it in one of his videos. (Also, he's made a few really good short films as well)
15:00 game developer here. In some engines, working on specific settings, it defenitely works like that. I actually loved this as a reveal because it felt totally believable.
It's very believable. Reflections and lighting in games use all sorts of fakery. Genshin Impact had a similar thing happen, where an Island was supposed to be obscured until the next part of an in-game event, but the object obscuring it didn't render in screen space reflections, so you could see the entire island through reflections off the water.
Hell yeah! Adding to that, (for context so others know) because reflections used to be so expensive before raytracing (still are tbh) we usually just capture the general reflection of the area you're in ahead of time and store it in a panorama texture, which is applied to reflective surfaces, and most times, it's enough to sell the illusion :3
Yup, this is 100% something that could happen, although the advances in real-time raytracing are starting to make this kind of trickery around reflections somewhat obsolete.
This kind of glitch actually happened in Apex legends for like a year on World's Edge. There was a room at the top of sorting factory, and if you looked through a reflection inside that room you could see the downstairs area on the opposite side of the building. They eventually just removed the whole area the building was in.
yeah especially in older games, reflections are just static.
My big wins in Free Guy that weren't mentioned: when jacksepticeye says "get up Guy" during the fight scene, always gives me chills, and the Bombshell character ending up with the Barista by the end
at 1:06 it actually is not just a generic mech, it's from Halo 4 and is called the "Mantis"
Or to give it its full designation, the HRUNTING/YGGDRASIL Mark IX Armor Defense System.
I was hoping someone else had commented it. Great mech
I was about to point that out. Thank you
I'm not crazy thank you thank you
It's Freckles!
I’m glad you did this movie, I’ve loved it since I watched it in the theater, and have rewatched it many times. The part near the end when Guy says “I’m just a love letter to you” gets me every time.
Free guy, the answer to the question "what if truman was trapped in a twitch livestream?"
And somehow still ended up being a relatable wholesome guy who just wants to do good in his little simulated world.
check out the game American Arcadia, which is exactly that
@@ralphismyname4940 Dont be a fool..! :D
thats just jerma
Generation Loss
am I the only one who thinks that dude's tattoo is not a tattoo but a a normal tshirt that they still didn't configure the right size since he wasn't finished yet?
You aren't the only one.
It's a place holder asset that they haven't gotten around to replacing yet, just like, "Catchphrase!" "Friendly gesture," and Third thing here.
Never thought of that😂 also makes Sense that he just put the original game assets out of bounds instead of just deleting it cause he never expected someone to find it. The reflection even makes sense cause he could have set most items to not be reflective, but just forgot to turn the blinds non-reflective. So that's why Guy could see the island. Cause games are weird like that.
@@stickiedmin6508 Given Antwan is the type to think "Catchphrase" is an actual thing, it just showcases he's great at selling something but is clearly sterile when it comes to creating anything new or substantial.
LOL
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So a few big things i love about the movie:
1: All the NPCs actors are more normal looking people vs the playable characters actors being traditional action stars [the only exception being Ryan Reynolds but he does look less action hero here] make for a good contrast.
2: all footage of the game from the "real world" or highlight footage is made to look like its from an actual game. Helps really sell the fact its a game itself. Much more fun than using regular live action footage.
Missed Win: The Marvel and Star Wars stuff happened because when Disney bought the studio midway through production, Reynolds went to them directly and was like "Hey, now that you own this can we use your props?"
So Reynolds' way of doing everything!
That's solid proof that Reynolds is a nerd like us, and he gets to play with all the cool toys/props.
This was the first movie I'd seen about games that felt like it really captured what players are like. A background detail I loved when I saw it was that dude who was jumping into the wall over and over again. If I recall correctly, he actually clips into the wall on the last jump before the scene cuts away. You'd never get that kind of gag from other video game themed movies; more often it's about scoring points or clearing levels like we're still playing Atari.
The scene at the end with Guy and Buddy reuniting genuinely swelled me up with tears of joy with how wholesome it was.
More wholesome moments of best friends showing deep love for one another, please.
Yeah everybody almost cried at that scene, let's be honest.
A fun little detail of Shawn Levy’s kids making a cameo in the “waste that mofo” deserves a win too. I think that’s fun and the BTS story is hilarious
My biggest win for this movie is how Keys is the Real Version of Guy, and how Mouser is basically his Buddy. Mouser and Buddy are so bound to their jobs but when they finally see the truth in everything when they's Guy needs them the most; they turn their back on that job to help them. Also, Keys wore a literal blue shirt at the end. Dark Blue instead of Guy's Light Blue to reflect Keys being a more realistic and less carefree person compared to Guy. The symbolism is this movie is brilliant.
I came in expecting this movie to be like Totallynotmark reviewing “the watchmen” in his underwear and came out pleasantly surprised
He’s also not wearing his glasses at the end !! He is reinvested in real life and his relationships within it- no longer relying on code to show how he feels !!
These are one of those films made for pure indulgence. It's got low stakes, it's got laughs, and a helluva needle drop that is pure earworm and I love it. It's also just a cute love story and in a film landscape that chases after massive returns and has blockbusters with scopes of universes it was fun just having a simple watch like this.
Free Guy is the only example of the "real person falls in love with AI" trope I've seen that actually sticks the landing, acknowledging that AI isn't real but still allowing the person to develop a healthy (and really sweet) relationship by the end.
Especially because the AI and the game itself were created because of the love the creators had for each other. It very easily could've fallen into creepy territory but thankfully it didn't.
I mean, that depends on the way the trope is played. Depending on the setting, AI characters can be fake, fully real people, sapient but incomprehensible different from humans, or none of the above.
@@heatherrockwell9012 Sure, it depends on the tone. I can watch Futurama and treat Bender the same as any human character, same with Ultron in Marvel or Zenyatta in Overwatch. But if a story is trying to take itself seriously and get the audience to question the sapience of artificial programs, it can be pretty immersion-breaking if the writers expect me to conclude that "yes, this AI has somehow become sapient through the power of love" (looking at you, Ex Machina).
I would argue that K having a loving, long term relationship with Joi in Blade Runner 2049 was also VERY well done and heartfelt. And that was 4 years before Free Guy.
Whether or not you think K can be considered "human" is beside the point. He's human enough to live, love desire and hope...so I feel it fits.
...Stories are not, in fact, bound by the laws of our reality.
Best part about the line at 16:49 is it was completely improved by Ryan on the spot. Too good to keep out
This is one of those movies that even despite the fact it's kind of "terrible", I can't help but fall for just how honest it is about being cheesy and goofy. Film as art? Probably not, but film as entertainment? Absolutely.
That’s really all that matters
Honestly the main things holding it back are
The twitch cameos dating the movie
The uninteresting side plot of the developers(reminds me a bit of inside out but even less compelling)
And the ham fisted "look Corporate guy bad, captalism bad, please give us your brownie points" message at the end it could have been a block buster re imagining of the truman show for a modern audience
I like Ready Player One and is trash
I dont know the CGI, jokes or the "Gandalf" character of the creator are amazing
How is free guy terrible?
@@airplanes_aren.t_realno it doesn't
15:13 it depends on when the movie is set. Video game reflections didn't always work like real reflections. Older games just used a set image as a "reflection", and the image used didn't always reflect what the character in question was actually looking at. I still see this in some modern games when I set my graphics quality down to deal with lag/latency issues. Real-time reflection goes away, set-image-used-as-standard-reflection shows up.
To say I've been waiting for this is an understatement. I saw this movie with my boyfriend on our two year anniversary. We were having too much fun talking at the restaurant that we had to rush to the movie theater, and had missed the first couple minutes of the movie. It was dark and raining when we got out, and we shared an electric scooter back to his place. It was one of my favorite dates we had. He took his own life almost exactly two years ago, a month away from our three year anniversary. He means the world to me, and I miss him a lot
That sounds wonderful. Sorry for your loss, I hope you find peace : (
Oh my goodness. What a lovely date. I'm so sorry your story together ended so soon.
There will be more miracles. We're surrounded by them and sometimes don't even notice.
Well that escalated quickly.
That did not go the way I expected it to. May he rest in peace.
15:00 love how this one moment is bringing all the gamedevs in CinemaWins's audience out of the woodwork
including me, my first reaction to that scene was "wow the people who wrote this script really _do_ know video games"
Actually reflective surfaces are really hard to do so a cheat is texturing reflective surfaces with what they’re supposed to reflect. So not scrubbing reflections would make sense.
Edit: it is easier to handle reflections now. It’s just the excuse didn’t ring bs to me cuz I have just given up and baked the reflections into the texture.
They can also cause rendering weirdness even in cases where they _are_ handled dynamically.
Just for an off-the-top-of-my-head example, Subnautica has a few surface islands scattered across its ocean world map, but they're hidden from the player behind a layer of fog until they get close enough. However, if you put yourself just deep enough that the surface of the water is at your camera level, you'll sometimes catch glimpses of the islands regardless of distance as the water level crosses your vision.
or is it just simple clipping, like a failed to render piece of blind on that one side when it's rotated to a certain arc.
One of my favorite details about how Guy’s apartment is rushed can be seen on the wall at 14:57 where the calendar just skips the 4th day of the month.
For me, the secret biggest win of this movie is it being a video game movie ABOUT video games, all without featuring a specific real game as it center focus. Like, you would think Free City is a parody of GTA, Fortnite, Counter Strike or whatever, but nope, it's just a generic city location that features elements of recognizable real games. This more than anything helps to highlight the gamer culture within (and outside) the game, and show how people truly go around playing video games. You are not distracted by the thought of "that's not how things are in X game!", and it's much easier to accept the chaos and absurdity of the movie knowing "yup, that IS how people play Y games".
Look at this! 17:27 Its not even a Star Wars movie but still has lore accurate lightsaber Form V! Take notes Disney!
Im pretty sure Jack was supposed to only have 1 line in the whole movie, but he was the only youtuber who actually tried so they asked him to record several more lines.
He put his all in!
15:00 fun fact: a lot of the time it actually DOES work like that most games have separate reflection-boxes that fake an actual reflection to save processing power... because simulating actual light bouncing is EXPENSIVE, and not really feasible to make on a moving thing. so yeah, not just plausible but happened a lot in games before, if you're really attentive you can see wrong reflections in scopes in a few shooters for instance :D
Yeah !! Baked reflections is such an awesome reference and made me happy to see
+1,000,000 points for actually secretly being a super endearing and heartwarming romcom
The game stuff being hidden in a reflection makes perfect sense to me. Many games "cheat" reflection by just making a copy of the room in reverse, and a clone of your player that mimics your moves in the opposite direction when you enter the room. Helps that there aren't any other NPCs reflected usually, to save on costs, but if you just do a flip it isn't too costly computationally
Gotta correct you
Deadpool and wolverine are at least the third time that Ryan and Hugh have appeared together. But if you forgot that X-Men origins: wolverine exists, I won’t blame you. As they say, we often block out past traumas
Yes!!!! I was scrolling to see if anyone said it before i commented.
I kinda think that was the joke. Otherwise why would you even say such a thing, and more than once at that.
@@Tenaka30 Yup, just like this was the first time Ryan and Taika have been in a movie together.
Logan: "Wade? [Weapon XI stands ominously.] I see Stryker finally found a way to shut you up."
[Deadpool's hand appears and shoots Weapon XI in the head]
Deadpool: "Sorry, don't mind me. [Deadpool enters in full view.] Just cleaning up the timeline." [Deadpool makes a few more backhanded shots at Weapon XI's fallen body while still maintaining eye contact with Logan.]
And what was the movie Hugh & Ryan worked together that’s not X-Men related
Edit: Wait Wait, the Hacker guy who gives the love interest is actually Hugh Jackman. Had no idea that was him… could’ve been Del Toro.
Also! The costuming of Millie & Keys in their last scene is so great! It's as close to her Molotov look as she wears in the real world, and Keys is in a Blue Shirt.
No because I LOVE this movie. The comedy is well done, the characters are believable and have realistic motivations, the relationships are handled really well, the soundtrack slaps, the references are AWESOME, etc. The Jodie Comer cover of Fantasy makes me cry every time.
Lee just wanted to mention how happy I am hearing you mention Tron Legacy in videos not about it . I just watched your Mitchells vs the Machines video where you mention it again and decided to watch this after and once again I was caught off guard by its mention at 14:06. It’s my favorite movie of all time and whenever I catch someone mentioning it in a good light it always makes me smile. Thank you for understanding how good of a movie it is. (And yes of course I’ve watched you E.G.A. Tron Legscy like 12 times.)❤
Greatly appreciate that whenever we see the game as seen by the IRL people, it's an actual CG render to look like a game albeit with a hyper realistic design.
Calling Chris Evans "Lloyd Hansen" someone must've finished watching "The Gray Man". 17:08
10:21 Jodie comer is indeed from Liverpool however that was a Manchester accent shown to describe how her accent sounds when they couldn’t be further apart
Glad someone said, manc is far from Scouse
Came here to say this Scouse and Mancunian are worlds apart..
Tbf if you see her in American interviews she sounds a bit more like Manc but when shes on a British show she sounds like Jamie Carragher
@@jamesflynn8448 The only difference between her and Carragher is that she'd present a decent analysis of the game.
Glad I wasn’t the only who came to the comments to say this, Manc and Scouse are very different
One of my top favorite movies of 2022. Shawn Levy knows how to make a great film and the whole cast just does it so well! Ryan, Jodie, Lil Rel, Joe all give off fantastic performances
The mech at 1:10 is the Mantis from Halo 4 and 5 (I think the one here is specifically the H4 version). Which, to be fair, basically is a small Metal Gear.
Something that shocked me when I first saw it, but I really love, is that 'Millie' theme was originally used in a short called 'Paperman' it's such a beautiful, tender, love-filled theme, and I'm so glad that they used it again.
This movie is FAR more heartfelt than it had any right to be.
Personal headcannon and everyone feel free to copy: the Deadpool actor for the poster in the streamers wall, the guy that gave the clip up, is Henry cavil Deadpool from Deadpool and Wolverine. The “Free Guy” universe is that same variant universe.
So I struggle with a lot of derealization/depersonalization issues (basically feeling like I'm not real ect) and Buddy's speech literally changed how I think when I get moments like that. I still have those moments but I don't panic over them anymore.
Also yes Sean's cameos were awesome and I love that he and Ryan are friendly
The end fight still gets me pumped. Just all the fun references that make me feel the same as when I first saw those franchises. Shame those franchises struggle to do the same today.
The whole "Forgot to scrub the reflections" Makes sense, there are a lot of games that just use the sky box or a image of the surroundings because thats just less intense on your pc/console.
I was truly blown away by the sheer ridiculousness but the heart it had. It made me want to watch it all over again, immediately ❤
"Everything GREAT About Free Guy!"
Did you mean: the entire film?
17:42 Anyone else notice that Dude has maxed out cash, infinite health and infinite armour?
That scenes with Guy making it to Life Itself with Fantasy playing in the background and with Buddy and Guy at the end are the scenes that have come closest to bringing me to tears in recent movies so another +2 wins for me
The reflections absolutely work like that, the best example I can think of is every once in a while in Rainbow 6: Siege, in menu while it is totally it's own separate world, you can see the holding area for models occasionally which looks like a random parking garage.
Yeah, you can get all fancy with reflections by ray-tracing everything, or you can just create a second camera with inverted co-ordinates and render its view in place of the reflections. Or you can create a second copy of (parts of) the game world for use as reflections.
Please please PLEASE do ARGYLLE! Most fun movie ever..! 😃
I think Guy would be great at CinemaWins
This movie actually had no right to be as entertaining as it actually is and I credit a huge part of that to ryan just getting his friends together
Finally! Appreciation to one of Ryan’s most underrated, overhated, forgotten movie! I really hope we get Free Guy 2.
This is one of my favorites. Watched it about 20 times, and I cry every single time when they get to the bridge. :D
this movie was so entertaining... its like ryan watched "ready player one" and went "what if we took a bunch of online games and mashed them up into a world, but those NPC's don't know they aren't real". I sometimes question my actual life, am I really real or is life just a simulation playing out? Black mirror sort of tackled this with that dating app episode.
15:08
Actually, fun fact, it DOES often work like that. Rather than have the game constantly do the actual math, games will have copies of the environment past a mirror in earlier games, and then after that, they sometimes would have the game reference low res 2d pictures for what should be in the reflection.
Super mario sunshine for example actually does have some features in some of its reflections that aren't present in the actual game.
the mec is actually the mantis from halo 4
Beat me to it.
His name is Freckles and he is a good boy.
@@AmbushIntheDark Solid Reference.
You missed calling out the tear in her eye as we come out of the dutch tilt.. such a great little detail showing how much this change in behavior impacts her.
I actually saw this in theatres with some friends, and I remember thinking “Yeah, this looks fun.” And lo and behold, it was! But I also remember getting to the halfway point and being punched in the gut with how emotional it got. It went from a movie commenting on the game development industry and gaming culture to a weirdly philosophical look on what determines if something is real or not. The second half genuinely got me super emotional when I saw it the first time, and I almost cried during Guy and Buddy’s conversation in Buddy’s house.
I don't know if current games have gone realtime yet but, traditionally reflections are pre-baked into a texture map file and applied to all reflective surfaces as a static image so they don't have to be constantly calculated during play so the "not scrubbing the reflections" thing is actually pretty plausible.
15:03 Actually , those could be baked in reflections , games use that all the time when not using screen space reflections or ray tracing , saves on memory and actually makes sense for it to be forgotten while removal in such a tiny place of detail
The reflections-thing is actually kinda clever because before ray-tracing reflections weren't just reflecting the game world but were their own seperate maps that you had to change to change the reflection.
10:21 Jamie Tartt is from Manchester, which is a completely different accent to Liverpool
Scrolled down for this 🤣
Was waiting for this comment
A very personal win for me with this movie: My favorite song ever is 'Paperman', the music for the animated short that played before Wreck-It Ralph in the theaters. The guy who composed it also did the music for Free Guy, and music was re-used in this movie for the love theme. I nearly teared up when I heard the first couple notes while watching this in theaters.
YES!!!! One lf my favourite feel good movies from the past few years. Also cant wait for you to make a Deapool 3 video, its gonna be a 30 min video I can tell already.
14:55 suprisingly this is pretty legit! For example in Apex Legends, someone found out the reflection coming off of scopes reflected the skybox of a different map tham what was currently being played. At first there was only one map, KC, but when you were in the firing range you would still get the reflections of KC and not the range. I loved this part because it felt pretty grounded in something directly observable in games.
I'm almost a little surprised we didn't get a CinemaWins for this sooner. (But I'm glad we have it now, this movie is fun)
Fun fact, when I saw Free Guy in the theater, the projector had some sort of issue and turned off right when Guy went in to kiss Millie, but the audio was still going. One guy in the corner of the theater said "you can open your eyes now Guy"
Just thought that was a fun little memory.
I love the one video of Deadpool and Korg watching the trailer 😂
The Chris Evans Cameo is incredible.
the reflection thing is actually more common in some gameplay designs because unlike real life reflections are not just the light bouncing back.
so invisible objects that are there could still be effected by the algorithm that creates the reflection is not the same algorithm that made it hidden. (its bad coding but it still makes sense to the coding world)
15:03 There's about a billion different tricks around handling reflections in real-time applications, because handling them properly was pretty much impossible until raytracing hardware became a thing. Some of those tricks include an offline rendering step (which is expensive to run) that precomputes reflections in all possible directions and then stores them in a sort of lookup table (usually a sphere or cube texture) for further use. So this kind of thing is totally plausible to happen, especially when he wanted to be secretive about this stuff (and is somewhat generally incompetent)
Another cool background detail: at 1:33 if you pay attention to the green car driving in the back, in the next shot it is blue, and then switches to purple in the same shot, indicating that the player driving that car is customizing it while they’re driving!
About the reflections thing, this kind of glitch actually happened in Apex legends for like a year on World's Edge. There was a room at the top of sorting factory, and if you looked through a reflection inside that room you could see the downstairs area on the opposite side of the building. They eventually just removed the whole area the building was in.
7:37 "she gonna choose the bear" was perfect!
I believe the "Spoonami" naming could also be a play on the still existing japanese "Konami" who are famous for multiple video game classics, as well as the "Konami cheat" being the up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, b, a, start - code! :D
Was looking for this, exactly right. Frogger and Castlevania come to mind, as well as the Yu-Gi-Oh TCG.
Edit: Apparently also the Metal Gear franchise
19:31 idk about y’all but that’s the friendliest gesture I’ve ever seen
Little timely of an easter egg; the body-double for Dude is Aaron Reed, who was also cast in Deadpool & Wolverine as a returning character from X3.
unashamedly love this movie. lifts my mood whenever i'm feeling down
Honestly free guy is one of my favorite surprise movies in a while! I didn’t expect anything from it I just watched it cuz Ryan was in it and I do love me a good video game movie. Oh man was I surprised by this movie! Story was great, had lots of fun references for a gamer like me the love story was very well done and one of the best in recent years imo. This movie is a solid 8/10 and I love it!
7:37 "she gon choose the bear"
lol
The Hardcore Henry reference! Man I love that movie, I need a sequel.
Aaaaaay, we're going to the Nostromo next week!
Just watched this the other day for the first time. It surprisingly had a lot of heart. Especially towards the end.
2:10 wrong Ryan Reynolds was in a movie with Hugh it’s called X-Men Origins: Wolverine he played Wade aka Deadpool but the bad version of Deadpool that we get the one we know and love in 2016
I gotta say Free Guy was amazing to me just off the concept of not having to go through life in a bland way. You are free to live how you want. Despite the struggles and problems in life. Even if we had every need and concern taken care of we still would want to seek out a unique life experience
Love the Ski Sundown call out. Having worked there many winters
🫠🫠🫠 Jodi Comer in this movie... Also loved that the Paperman score is in here and how they used the song FANTASY
"somebody's about to get shot" is easily one of my favorite lines EVER in a movie, and I am not exaggerating.
I have a friend who works in game design and after watching this film he told me the missing to scrub the reflections moment is something he’s had to fix in the past
The reflections thing isn't completely unwarranted
Some games don't reflect particles or affects meaning sometimes you can see straight through forests or fog
I know specifically in Roblox, the relfection stat reflects the skybox, not what's around it
17:26 John Williams is always a win.
10:50 Not the google search suggestion “help I keep accidentally- BUILDING JEEPS”
16:55 possibly but not likely the red arm is critical punch from Vs Saxton Hale mod for tf2
20:26 Okay, next week is going to be EGA Alien. Here's a list of suggestions to consider for future EGA videos:
-The Rugrats Movie
-Super 8
-Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008 Film)
-Cloverfield
-Shrek
-Real Steel
-Cars
-Night at the Museum
-Atlantis: The Lost Empire
-The Flintstones (1994 Film)
Atlantis: The Lost Empire is an absolute masterpiece, I would love to see an EGA on it but it would basically be the entire movie
My friend and I watched this together 3 years ago.
We both giggled all the way through it.
And then both had massive existential crisis afterwards.
There are a lot of comments that this movie isn't actually that good, but anything that inspires that range of emotion is pretty fucking impactful
THIS is the movie that made me finally decode to go into programming. I love it for that.
That thing with reflections is actually how it works in older games
For example, in Mario Sunshine, Shadow Mario "reflects" an older layout of Bianco Hills, and in the prerendered scenes, an older version of Pinna Park
The yellow eyes for Eely Mouth reflect a screenshot of an older version of that same map, with Mario in the center and everything else
It's pretty cool because you can extract those textures and see changes that were made in the area that's shown!
7:25 I love that the guy has RPD (Raccoon police department) from Resident Evil
The "forgot to scrub the reflections" line kinda makes sense.
There are several ways to do reflections, but what she's referring to is "Baked reflections." like baked lighting, they're rendered to a texture (baked) before the game is released to the public and then math figures out which part of the image to use for the reflection.
So regardless of what was changed, if the reflections weren't rebaked, whatever was there when the baking happened would still be there.
It just doesn't make sense that the lighting wasn't ever re-baked.
“You love Kentucky Fried Chicken, right? If you love Kentucky Fried Chicken and I make Kentucky Fried Chicken, why would I make another restaurant called Albuquerque Boiled Turkey?”
I'm kind of curious what Albuquerque Boiled Turkey would taste like, actually.
The fact that Antwan immediately had that off the dome tells me he's either way more creative than the rest of the movie suggests (doubtful) or he used to work for KFC and wanted to leave and make his own "totally original" fast food place named that before he became a video game company CEO.
At 1:08 the "mech" is a Mantis from Halo4 and Halo 5, though due to those games popularity and reputation I can understand why you wouldn't know.
Love ya CinemaWins, your stuff is awesome to watch!