Vanilla Ice being a side antagonist yet having a 1 shot ability and killing 1/3rd of the cast himself before dying to sunlight with his vampirism kicking in at the last moment.
Kraftwerk is a stand that i think is a contender for “abilities that araki regretted limiting to a minor antagonist as he didn’t realize the potential”
I always assumed that rather than freezing objects in place, Kraftwerk “pins” objects to other objects, such as mista’s hand or the bullets to the truck, or the rocks to the ground; if this interpretation is correct, it means Sale could not launch opponents into space since his stand’s range is not sufficient to reach any celestial body to “pin” somebody to in order to pull them from Earth’s orbit.
@@lofaber5664 Fair enough - unfortunately, he’s not in the story long enough to get a decent view of his abilities. I had to rely on the same two feats over and over again to get an idea of what it could do. Wish Araki would’ve done more with the Stand in the fight.
That's a really good explanation. But through that there's suddenly a lot more ways to do maneuvers, like "pinning" to the train's outside if you've fallen out, or pinning to the wall of you've been thrown out of the building.
Kraftwerk has always stood out to me as an underrepresented and unrealized stand, so I'll gladly listen to someone else talk about it, no matter how stupid and obscene the take is
Imagine him spraying sand in a shield or wall shape, Wouldn't he be able to take the kinetic energy from it and then use it as a hard to see barrier and walkingor running straight into it, you would fell pain if you would run into it. Your eyes could get pierced by the little sandcorns . And if he just flick em all with his very fast stand he could make tiny powerful bullets that go into your skin. Imagine reading this whole comment
Just lure your enemy to an underpass below a road, affix them to a passing car (well within the stand range) and they hit the wall at the speed of the car. If that doesn't kill them affix them to a car going the opposite direction and repeat until they become a red paste, from ping ponging in every direction.
If they are affixed to a car they wouldn’t just stop once they hit the wall. They would be constantly be feeling the speed of that car until it stops. So I don’t know if you affixed their top and half and their bottom half to two different cars going in opposite directions they would be likely split in half.
@@angrystrawberry-4tf6g What if you affix just their heart and the head to the car? Due to the speed the body would almost immediately be tearing itself apart and additionally due to the fact that when something breaks it is physically moved for the breakage to happen those body parts would actually be unharmed. Additional knowledge like the fact heat is just the movement of air molecules we could possibly cause someone to instantly feel the heat of a fire by affixing them to a specific air molecule and a then using a lighter. You could potentially affix someone or an object to a bullet. If then shoot that bullet they would go flying with the speed of that bullet. If you line a shot up properly the thing affixed to the bullet would hit something while the bullet doesn’t caucusing it to still have the speed of the bullet if they are still both in range. Could you possibly cause an object to undergo nuclear fission by affixing half of every molecule in the object on to something going fast and affixing the other half to something else? Because the atoms would be pulled apart separating atomic bonds which is why the energy is produced. Though due to the poor range the stand has you would die in the process but you would destroy a lot of stuff. Additionally due to being able to do only parts if you affix something to your hand you could technically control where it is with your hand. Like affix the ground under you to your hand and suddenly you can fly by simply raising your hand it would probably work kinda like a thumb stick on a controller you would move the hand left to move left, move the hand right to move right, put the hand down to move it down…etc and because of what I mentioned before about breakage you basically wouldn’t have to worry about it falling apart.
Kraftwerk is a rlly good stand but im pretty sure he freezes objects relative to himself. When he is on the truck he is relative to the truck, therefore the bullets stop in place while still moving with the truck, since Sale is also moving with the truck and he’s stopping bullets relative to him. And when he’s off the truck and throws the stones they also halt midair relative to him since he’s not on top of anything and just standing there. If objects are halted relative to Sale, then there is no way anything is flying into space since Sale is relative to Earth, and objects he halts are relative to him
You misunderstand how Sale’s power works. Sale fixes objects in relation to one another. That’s how the bullets are able to travel alongside the truck despite not having kinetic energy on it.
Image he has an assasinatjon mission... he freezes a ceramic tile/ a brick/ a coffee cup and when the target passes by, the target gets obliterated with, seemingly, no connection to the Kraftwerk user
for the bullet in the head, I'm pretty sure he disabled the effect and just let it linger there. Also I always thought of this too, to the point it'd be one of my go to picks for a super power. You could also make objects stay in position relative to a REALLY fast object you could use it as a railgun.
it's great to note that Purple Haze Feedback isn't canon, and nor do I think it would make sense for Kraftwerk be able to freeze someone's hearth as, by my understanding, he has to touch the object to freeze it.
While Purple Haze Feedback isn’t canon there isn’t anything in the manga that directly counters the idea of it being able to do something like that. Remember that Kraftwerk can extend its ability to you even if you’re just touching an object it is affecting/it is touching, like with Mista getting his hand stuck in place by touching the truck Sale was standing on. So if that works then what’s stopping it from striking your chest and having its ability extend to your internal organs?
Well going off of him freezing a part of someone because they touched an object he was touching; he could conceivably touch someone and only freeze someone’s heart.
3:30 Tbf shrugging off getting a bullied to the brain would also make me cocky, Kraftwerk is one of thsoe stands that would be the best irl to have imo.
Commenting and liking for support, I wanna see you do more with stands like this. I saw kraftwork and knew exactly where you were going with this, makes sense to me. But there might be some logic that we’re unaware that localizes its effects.
I'm very happy you mentioned PHF. I recently got it as a Christmas present and it's AMAZING, it really does justice to some forgotten characters, introduces some new one and ties everything left unsolved in part 5 together very nicely
I once made a char with a similar ability and realised the exact same thing. Except even worse. Because it froze a person not just in place from a planetary/relative/ solar system persective but universally. The earth rotates around the sun, the solar system rotates in the galaxy. Etc 1 touch was all it took for a guy to basically instantly vanish from everyone's perspective by locking them in place and be left behind randomly in the milky way.
I came up with a stand that's ability was basically Kraftwerk combined with Stasis from Breath of the Wild, coming back to it now I realise how insanely OP that would be.
5:37 sadly, it’s actually relative to his movement, he can physically move them around in space, but otherwise, they move when he moves, so unless he himself was locked at 0 m/s in all directions, he wouldn’t suddenly send things into space
Very interesting hypothesis, however I believe the caveat is that Sale nullifies an object's kinetic energy (therefore speed) relative to himself (at the moment of activation). That's it. I don't think Sale has ever done otherwise. I may remember incorrectly, but I'm happy to be wrong!
i tried to check for that, but araki’s stand descriptions can be pretty vague. combined with so little screen time of the abilities, it could be either! i wish we had gotten to see more of it
@gl7029 Yeah, I guess you're right. Looking at Kraft Work's descriptions it says that it "stops in place in an instant any object (he touches). As many object as he wants". This probably means that Sale can choose the frame of reference he likes best, making him an idiot (because he could have simply stopped the truck and make mista fly on the road and then run him over). I'm still in doubt to what happened to the bullet stuck in his skull: if his ability was still active it shouldn't have moved at all, whereas, if he deactivated it, it should have pierced his skull. Mista's comment in chapter 28 makes things even more confusing: "If I fire another shot into the bullet that stopped in the wound, even if you "fixed" it to stop it, that "one more shot" will dig a bullet's worth into the inside of your head, won't it?". Why does he think that? The bullet is "fixed" in place and shouldn't move at all. Sale's power activates "in an instant" so it's probably enough to make a bullet travel into his skin, but once the bullet is "fixed" this shouldn't apply.
So, the enemies wouldn't go flying off, the things he freezes carries the momentum he has at the time of freezing. when he starts walking or something that's not part of his original velocity, thus having things like the bullets going along with him on the truck.
@@kujojotarostandoceanman2641 all sources i’ve found list the ability as removing kinetic energy from an object, you have kinetic energy when in a moving vehicle
"Kraft Work's primary ability is the manipulation of kinetic energy, either taking an object's kinetic energy completely away, freezing it in place, or adding more kinetic energy to a previously frozen object, making it move once more." ripped directly out of JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia, the "bro" who is forgetting something here is you.
@@MatterOrNot does the encyclopedia only include what the people in the story witnessed or thought about or does it dissect any more tidbits unknown to the witnesses in the story?
His ability is to freeze an object relative to another object, such as the bullet he was tapping relative to the truck. Unless the stand has infinite range and can freeze you relative to the sun nobody's going into space with him
FINALLY! Ever since I saw that episode I always though Kraftwerk was a super underrated stand and I've never seen anyone else express the same opinion until now.
Not only is the earth rotating on its axis, not only is it traveling around the sun, the solar system is rotating around the centre of the milky way, and the milky way around the centre of the universe, all while the universe is expanding (the distance between each element, not infinitely spawning new things at its edge), and presumably the universe is also going in a direction.
If you get a chance, read Undead Unluck. There's a part in it where some characters are able to expand their understanding of a rule as to how their powers function and grow as a result... I think this is essentially what you're describing, but in JoJo. We've seen this before, though usually only for main protagonists who end up "evolving" their stands. Part 8 is kinda built on this too. I think Undead Unluck is also gonna be an anime now or soon; it's pretty good
Honestly, I think Kraftwerk is locked to the user's perspective. Basically, if the user is on the truck, things they freeze lock in place relative to the truck. If he's on the ground, same thing. If he could lock objects in place relative to other objects he isn't standing on, he likely would've froze the bullet fired at him in place relative to the ground and had the bullet impact Mista at the speed of the truck. This could definitely work as an evolution of the stand, but I don't think Kraftwerk as is, is capable of this.
I didn’t even think of that but yea if implemented correctly it seems like it’d be pretty hard to beat, also I started feeling motion sick once I thought about how fast we are all spinning in radial motion it’s like being on a big train that never stops it makes me so sick 😭
My personal favorite "minor antagonist" stand is Superfly, because name a user who fully utilized their stand better than that guy. HE TURNED A RADIO TOWER INTO A DOMAIN EXPANSION
So funny story about this. I once accidentally “conceptualized” this kind ability. I went through a very similar train of thought, realizing the potential of the power to just stop things in place. “Man, this would a really power for a villain if I ever got creative.” I later realized “oh godammit it’s literally just Kraftwerk.”
you forget that the solar system is also revolving around the black hole at the center of the milky way at ~828,000 km/hr. I have had this exact thought process before; if kraftwerk managed to affect your head, it would shoot into space at ~21 times earth's escape velocity.
I interpret the second bullet being moved since he stopped it initially but then deactivated the stop so that he could move without it ripping through his brain. Then the other bullet wasn't stopped in time since his reaction time is still that of a humans. Also an issue with him stopping someone outside of the earth's movement is that it could backfire and the thing or person he stops could fly into him killing him aswell.
Kraftwerk with prep time is only rivaled by batman with prep time. Imagine spending a few million years to gradually accelerate a bullet to the speed of light.
Using logic and momentum and...well, newtons law Even if you stopped the guy for a FEMNTOSECOND, the "momentum" he had, its still there (i put it in quotes cause everything has momentum but the person you stopped, so its literally the same effect if you think about it) cause air, particles and everything has mass (except photons) so it makes a pushing force so even if they left the range, they would still fly in that direction at kilometers per second, so they would leave the earth's atmosphere, or be crushed aganist a building or wall, or aganist the ground to a point they would become a fine red mist, and even if they didin't hit anything, they're going faster than the speed of sound, so they would make a sonic boom doing a lot of damage, and crash on the air particles getting obliterated on to a red paste
Finally the Kraftwerk underated community can arise, we all see this potential, for me to thinks about it, dio can freeze time and you tell me that the guys who can freeze space is a little treat, yeah not for me. plus to add your earth is moving, moving around the sun, the sun is also moving in the galaxy, while the galaxy itself move and the univers expend. Anyways great video 👍
The second bullet didn't move a stuck bullet, he unstuck the bullet because if he moved and the bullet was still unmoving it would tear up the insides of his brain. He could have avoided it if he thought to stick the bullet in relation to his position like with the truck, but i guess he didn't think of that in the instant he was shot.
From how i understood kraftwerk it's the gmod weld tool that also stores kinetic energy he fixes objects relative to other objects he can fix things to the earth like he did with climbing the rocks but also pins them to the truck when fighting on it and if he could pin them to space itself it would be a terrible blunder when he fixes mistas arm to the truck and not just fixing his hand to space itself to let him fly off the truck
I think it would've been cool to see kraftwerk speed things up using its control over kinetic energy instead of just stopping it in place. Also he could do things such as generate heat if this were the case which could be pretty intresting to make use of. Who knows maybe a alternate universe kraftwerk exists with this heightened control over kinetic energy.
Say his stand upgrades, he now has the ability to store energy within himself or stand. He could create a blunderbuss by throwing pebbles, launch himself by punching himself, or create an air shockwave by pushing the air itself There are also so many possibilities in base form and maybe even more techniques and abilities playing with such a fundamental force
I mean I think it’s really cool with the heart separating from a person’s chest and being launched into the ground at 25,000mph but isn’t his ability to lock things in relation to other things? Like the bullets in mid-air, he locked them in relation to the truck otherwise it wouldn’t make any sense So idk if he could launch people to space but that one-hit makes sense
For the brain bullet: I think he stopped the bullet then stopped using Kraftwerk so when he moves it doesn't rip staight through his brain. So when Mista shot it again it moved because he couldn't use Kraftwerk to stop the other bullet again as it would damage his brain if he moves and it would build up energy if he stopped it so he has to keep using his stand forever or die. I hope this makes sense 😅
then there's the fact he doesn't lock you u in place he locks you to something else he was locking everything to the truck so he can make weapons that are disjointed
You know what pissed me off about Kraftwerk? When Zelda BOTW came out and everyone did DIO Za Warudo jokes with the Stasis rune WHEN KRAFTWERK IS RIGHT THERE!!!!! IT LITERALLY DOES EXACTLY WHAT ITS ABILITY ISS!!!!!!!!!!
His ability is to fix objects relative to something else, like fixing something relative to the truck or to the Earth or to himself. The problem with your theory is that every object within his range is moving relative to Earth's motion. He can't fix someone to some other celestial body because it would be too far outside of his range.
Ok let me try to somehow explain your theory physically: English is not my first language, so idk if this is the correct english term. So inertial reference systems are basicallyclosed systems which are not effected by outside forces. For example there is the inertial system earth. The truck could also be seen as one (like assuming it would not speed up and assuming it does not drive around curves. I assume the things he freezes are frozen relativly to the same inertial system he is in. So when he is in the truck they are also frozen relativly to the truck. Now you say he could also freeze objekts in other inertial systems, which would make sense as he is also in the intertial system earth as the inertial system of the truck is also in the system of the earth. Now we can not say wether this works or not as we never learn how much controll he has oveer this power. But if you are correct then being frozen in the system of the earth would not send you flying as you would still be frozen relativly to the earth. But when talking about the solar system then yes you probably would get yeeted away. Now imma be honest I dont think he has the power to freeze it compared to the solar system. But we will never know.
And now make a video about the TRUE POTENTIAL of Ze Hando! I swear, that stand has some of the most potential, and all they ever use it for is erasing air.
It seems pretty clear to me that kraftwerk freezes objects in relative space, and imo it does not appear that Sale is capable of freezing objects from any reference point other than his.
you forgot one thing, a really sharp sword has no durability which means it will break instantly but if u use kraft work on it the sword has infinite durability and if u use this on like paper it will be able to cut bone so, attach sharp wolverine wolverine claws to ur knuckles and boom ur him. also he only died cos he stopped focusing on the bullet and wasn't being affected by kraft work.
Here's what I've been pondering, can he scatter kinetic energy in the object? Like we see him throw things in one direction, but (if he stores enough energy) could he like shatter object into pieces by releasing kinetic energy in random directions. I imagining him scattering a rock into shotgun like shrapnel to get multiple opponents.
I WAS SAYING THIS FOR YEARS but for a different reason tho. I was thinking, if it can stop motion COMPLETELY at a controlled and atomic level, then it is technically capable of energy control and its base ability can create ABSOLUTE ZERO ! energy control why ? because all forms of energy at its core is just motion, either of electrons, particles for heat, photons whatever. and the fact it can also store kinetic energy in a motionless object demonstrates further that kraftwerk's true ability is COMPLETE ENERGY MANIPULATION TO AN ILLOGICAL DEGREE
@ravsucks dawg i didn't think of the use you talked abt here either lol. i guess it just goes to show how completely absurd and total of a control over energy this guy has. creates absolute zero and manages to input energy inside of it without the absence of energy spreading. complete control and all that while he probably doesn't realize like half these concepts. bruh how did this guy even get a stand 🤦♂️ most special thing abt him is how normal he is in a show abt bizarreness
Potential measures how much the stand itself can literally develop, as in obtain and improve upon existing abilites, not how much potential those abilities themselves have when applied. It is completely pointless for any kind of scaling For instance Tusk Act 4 also has an E in potential, despite having one of the most busted and versatile abilities in the verse. All the previous Act's had A in potential, since they still had room to grow. Same went for D4C, which dropped from A to C after obtaining Love Train, and Star Platinum, which starts at A in early part 3 and drops to C in part 6
@user-zz3sn8ky7z THAT’S BECAUSE TUSK ACT 4 ALREADY REACHED IT’S FULL POTENTIAL AND CAN NO LONGER GROW ANY FURTHER HOLY FUCKING SHIT SURE THE STAND STATS MIGHT NOT MAKE SENSE BUT THE STAND STATS LIKE [THE EMPEROR] ACTUALLY MAKE SENSE IT HAS AN E IN PRECISION BECAUSE THE STAND ITSELF HAS NO PRECISION! ITS HOL HORSE HIMSELF CONTROL THE FUCKING BULLETS WHEN HE FOCUSES HARD ENOUGH I WILL FOREVER SEE [KRAFT WORK]’S POTENTIAL AND RANGE IN E!!!!! IF ARAKI DESIGNED THE STAND THAT WAY AND *CANT* DO SOMETHING BULLSHIT LIKE STOPPING THE EARTH’S ROTATION, THEN ACCEPT IT THAT WAY FOR THE LOVE OF REO SPEEDWAGON OMFG
I disagree, metaphysically speaking the earth is at the centre of the universe (basically since we’re the only life in the universe). Edit: wait… if Karl’s is technically alive then are we truly the only life in the universe? I suppose the stand only works relative to what is the largest object closest to it, whether that be the Galaxy or the moon, the user cannot decide how his own powers work.
when I'm in a being OP competition and my opponent is a JoJo minor villain:
@@লবণহানটারman REAL there’s a ton of other examples if you really take a look at them
Ciocciolata
Superfly
Metallica
Vanilla Ice being a side antagonist yet having a 1 shot ability and killing 1/3rd of the cast himself before dying to sunlight with his vampirism kicking in at the last moment.
Kraftwerk is a stand that i think is a contender for “abilities that araki regretted limiting to a minor antagonist as he didn’t realize the potential”
I’m not too sure about that though cause unless done very well shooting people into space would be a pretty boring fight lowkey.
@@FrogOnADogsSittingOnALogC-Moon arena was basically that's and was cool as hell
@ yeah but c moon was more than just sending people flying away.
it feels 90% of JoJo stands and characters are wasted potential being relegated to minor characters that get defeated and never show up again
@@asuperrandomguy8266It wasn't sudden "boom you're instantly in space" it's gradual shift that lets the main protags adapt and understand the power
kraftwerk suddenly freezing time on it's place (it's the same type of stand)
I always assumed that rather than freezing objects in place, Kraftwerk “pins” objects to other objects, such as mista’s hand or the bullets to the truck, or the rocks to the ground; if this interpretation is correct, it means Sale could not launch opponents into space since his stand’s range is not sufficient to reach any celestial body to “pin” somebody to in order to pull them from Earth’s orbit.
@@lofaber5664 Fair enough - unfortunately, he’s not in the story long enough to get a decent view of his abilities. I had to rely on the same two feats over and over again to get an idea of what it could do. Wish Araki would’ve done more with the Stand in the fight.
@@ravsucks in general there's a lot of really cool and interesting stands (and characters) that just get one fight and just never show up again
he could pin you to space itself? idk that sounds like its possible due to what the hand does
@Masthegreatest08 based on the fact that Sale doesn't do anything close to this in the text, i'm assuming he can't do that
That's a really good explanation. But through that there's suddenly a lot more ways to do maneuvers, like "pinning" to the train's outside if you've fallen out, or pinning to the wall of you've been thrown out of the building.
Kraftwerk has always stood out to me as an underrepresented and unrealized stand, so I'll gladly listen to someone else talk about it, no matter how stupid and obscene the take is
@@quadromplis well, i hope you enjoyed it, even if my take was stupid and obscene
@@ravsucks I'd love to see more from you; hope you keep making videos like this!
@@quadromplis thank you! a lot of people asked about other stands so i might just look into those!
Imagine him spraying sand in a shield or wall shape, Wouldn't he be able to take the kinetic energy from it and then use it as a hard to see barrier and walkingor running straight into it, you would fell pain if you would run into it. Your eyes could get pierced by the little sandcorns . And if he just flick em all with his very fast stand he could make tiny powerful bullets that go into your skin. Imagine reading this whole comment
@@FearsBringTears if he wasn’t dumb as a box of rocks, sale could do some seriously crazy stuff
Just lure your enemy to an underpass below a road, affix them to a passing car (well within the stand range) and they hit the wall at the speed of the car. If that doesn't kill them affix them to a car going the opposite direction and repeat until they become a red paste, from ping ponging in every direction.
i like the way you think
This is Satan's way of thinking bro
If they are affixed to a car they wouldn’t just stop once they hit the wall. They would be constantly be feeling the speed of that car until it stops. So I don’t know if you affixed their top and half and their bottom half to two different cars going in opposite directions they would be likely split in half.
@ThefifthBishopofGord Good idea, let's improve by afixing alternating segments so they are torn in to about 8 pieces.
@@angrystrawberry-4tf6g What if you affix just their heart and the head to the car? Due to the speed the body would almost immediately be tearing itself apart and additionally due to the fact that when something breaks it is physically moved for the breakage to happen those body parts would actually be unharmed.
Additional knowledge like the fact heat is just the movement of air molecules we could possibly cause someone to instantly feel the heat of a fire by affixing them to a specific air molecule and a then using a lighter.
You could potentially affix someone or an object to a bullet. If then shoot that bullet they would go flying with the speed of that bullet. If you line a shot up properly the thing affixed to the bullet would hit something while the bullet doesn’t caucusing it to still have the speed of the bullet if they are still both in range. Could you possibly cause an object to undergo nuclear fission by affixing half of every molecule in the object on to something going fast and affixing the other half to something else? Because the atoms would be pulled apart separating atomic bonds which is why the energy is produced. Though due to the poor range the stand has you would die in the process but you would destroy a lot of stuff.
Additionally due to being able to do only parts if you affix something to your hand you could technically control where it is with your hand. Like affix the ground under you to your hand and suddenly you can fly by simply raising your hand it would probably work kinda like a thumb stick on a controller you would move the hand left to move left, move the hand right to move right, put the hand down to move it down…etc and because of what I mentioned before about breakage you basically wouldn’t have to worry about it falling apart.
Kraftwerk is a rlly good stand but im pretty sure he freezes objects relative to himself. When he is on the truck he is relative to the truck, therefore the bullets stop in place while still moving with the truck, since Sale is also moving with the truck and he’s stopping bullets relative to him. And when he’s off the truck and throws the stones they also halt midair relative to him since he’s not on top of anything and just standing there. If objects are halted relative to Sale, then there is no way anything is flying into space since Sale is relative to Earth, and objects he halts are relative to him
if the stones are relative to him, why don't they move when he does?
@@okkoheinio5139 wrong explenation sale pins objects to other objects his stand is like the weld tool from gmod that also stores kinetic energy
You misunderstand how Sale’s power works. Sale fixes objects in relation to one another. That’s how the bullets are able to travel alongside the truck despite not having kinetic energy on it.
Image he has an assasinatjon mission... he freezes a ceramic tile/ a brick/ a coffee cup and when the target passes by, the target gets obliterated with, seemingly, no connection to the Kraftwerk user
@@Tservator EXACTLY
for the bullet in the head, I'm pretty sure he disabled the effect and just let it linger there.
Also I always thought of this too, to the point it'd be one of my go to picks for a super power.
You could also make objects stay in position relative to a REALLY fast object you could use it as a railgun.
before even watching i read the title and said to myself "FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE NOTICES!"
it's great to note that Purple Haze Feedback isn't canon, and nor do I think it would make sense for Kraftwerk be able to freeze someone's hearth as, by my understanding, he has to touch the object to freeze it.
While Purple Haze Feedback isn’t canon there isn’t anything in the manga that directly counters the idea of it being able to do something like that. Remember that Kraftwerk can extend its ability to you even if you’re just touching an object it is affecting/it is touching, like with Mista getting his hand stuck in place by touching the truck Sale was standing on. So if that works then what’s stopping it from striking your chest and having its ability extend to your internal organs?
stands develop overtime and with training so it's not crazy
Well going off of him freezing a part of someone because they touched an object he was touching; he could conceivably touch someone and only freeze someone’s heart.
@Seinsmelledhe has E potential, but the stand stats usually don’t make any sense so idk
Stands phase through bodies all the time, jotaro touched his own heart
Please do more of these about underrated stands
3:30
Tbf shrugging off getting a bullied to the brain would also make me cocky, Kraftwerk is one of thsoe stands that would be the best irl to have imo.
Commenting and liking for support, I wanna see you do more with stands like this.
I saw kraftwork and knew exactly where you were going with this, makes sense to me. But there might be some logic that we’re unaware that localizes its effects.
I'm very happy you mentioned PHF. I recently got it as a Christmas present and it's AMAZING, it really does justice to some forgotten characters, introduces some new one and ties everything left unsolved in part 5 together very nicely
FINALLZY SOMEONE MAKES THIS VIDEO. KRAFTWERK IS MY FAVORITE STAND,AND TOO UNDERRATED
I once made a char with a similar ability and realised the exact same thing.
Except even worse.
Because it froze a person not just in place from a planetary/relative/ solar system persective but universally.
The earth rotates around the sun, the solar system rotates in the galaxy. Etc
1 touch was all it took for a guy to basically instantly vanish from everyone's perspective by locking them in place and be left behind randomly in the milky way.
I came up with a stand that's ability was basically Kraftwerk combined with Stasis from Breath of the Wild, coming back to it now I realise how insanely OP that would be.
5:37 sadly, it’s actually relative to his movement, he can physically move them around in space, but otherwise, they move when he moves, so unless he himself was locked at 0 m/s in all directions, he wouldn’t suddenly send things into space
Very interesting hypothesis, however I believe the caveat is that Sale nullifies an object's kinetic energy (therefore speed) relative to himself (at the moment of activation). That's it. I don't think Sale has ever done otherwise. I may remember incorrectly, but I'm happy to be wrong!
i tried to check for that, but araki’s stand descriptions can be pretty vague. combined with so little screen time of the abilities, it could be either! i wish we had gotten to see more of it
Considering that bullets inside him move while rocks ouside him don't move, you can't really have both with that explanation.
@gl7029 a lot of ppl having been answering this problem in this comment section as pinning objects relative to other objects instead
@gl7029 Yeah, I guess you're right. Looking at Kraft Work's descriptions it says that it "stops in place in an instant any object (he touches). As many object as he wants". This probably means that Sale can choose the frame of reference he likes best, making him an idiot (because he could have simply stopped the truck and make mista fly on the road and then run him over). I'm still in doubt to what happened to the bullet stuck in his skull: if his ability was still active it shouldn't have moved at all, whereas, if he deactivated it, it should have pierced his skull. Mista's comment in chapter 28 makes things even more confusing: "If I fire another shot into the bullet that stopped in the wound, even if you "fixed" it to stop it, that "one more shot" will dig a bullet's worth into the inside of your head, won't it?". Why does he think that? The bullet is "fixed" in place and shouldn't move at all. Sale's power activates "in an instant" so it's probably enough to make a bullet travel into his skin, but once the bullet is "fixed" this shouldn't apply.
been my fav stand for a long time, so many creative uses
IM SO GLAD SOMONE MADE A VIDEO ABOUT THIS. this has been my favourite stand for like 3 years now
i think things get anchored to what sale is standing on like how pucci and c-moon work
The world of JoJo is category of itself
So, the enemies wouldn't go flying off, the things he freezes carries the momentum he has at the time of freezing. when he starts walking or something that's not part of his original velocity, thus having things like the bullets going along with him on the truck.
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I don't think so. He "freezes" the objects relative to other objects. For example: Mista's hand stuck to the truck, or bullet to his skull
@VaclavRytina also a good theory, the thing with that is that he stops someone's heart. what did he stick it to? the insides of the person?
@S_N_O_W_U_Y that comes from Phf, non Canon novel
@VaclavRytina still goes by the same principals, you can put this into any scenario.
Now I’m waiting for the cheap trick video
Bro really forgot that the entire fight happens on a MOVING truck, Kraftworks ability is to stop something relative to another thing
@@kujojotarostandoceanman2641 all sources i’ve found list the ability as removing kinetic energy from an object, you have kinetic energy when in a moving vehicle
"Kraft Work's primary ability is the manipulation of kinetic energy, either taking an object's kinetic energy completely away, freezing it in place, or adding more kinetic energy to a previously frozen object, making it move once more."
ripped directly out of JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia, the "bro" who is forgetting something here is you.
Yeah the object gets locked relative to other object
@@MatterOrNot does the encyclopedia only include what the people in the story witnessed or thought about or does it dissect any more tidbits unknown to the witnesses in the story?
His ability is to freeze an object relative to another object, such as the bullet he was tapping relative to the truck. Unless the stand has infinite range and can freeze you relative to the sun nobody's going into space with him
They can turn you into snails, no they can’t
They can convince you so completely that you are turning into a snail that you actually do. That's pretty much the same thing.
@@koolkrafter5no, you just think you do
FINALLY SOMEONE TALKS ABOUT KRAFTWERKS CRAZY POTENTIAL
Most stands are freacking op if only the user wasnt just a one chapter bad guy
FINALLY! Ever since I saw that episode I always though Kraftwerk was a super underrated stand and I've never seen anyone else express the same opinion until now.
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Not only is the earth rotating on its axis, not only is it traveling around the sun, the solar system is rotating around the centre of the milky way, and the milky way around the centre of the universe, all while the universe is expanding (the distance between each element, not infinitely spawning new things at its edge), and presumably the universe is also going in a direction.
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If you get a chance, read Undead Unluck. There's a part in it where some characters are able to expand their understanding of a rule as to how their powers function and grow as a result... I think this is essentially what you're describing, but in JoJo. We've seen this before, though usually only for main protagonists who end up "evolving" their stands. Part 8 is kinda built on this too.
I think Undead Unluck is also gonna be an anime now or soon; it's pretty good
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Honestly, I think Kraftwerk is locked to the user's perspective. Basically, if the user is on the truck, things they freeze lock in place relative to the truck. If he's on the ground, same thing.
If he could lock objects in place relative to other objects he isn't standing on, he likely would've froze the bullet fired at him in place relative to the ground and had the bullet impact Mista at the speed of the truck.
This could definitely work as an evolution of the stand, but I don't think Kraftwerk as is, is capable of this.
I'm pretty sure the bullet inside his head was no longer affected by his ability, hence why it could be pushed by another bullet
ohhhh interesting, that does make sense
but it doesnt come out of his skull
@@chum9017 what? Like not falling out? I think it was lodged in the skull
@VaclavRytina if it was no longer affected by kraftwerk then the force of another bullet would penetrate the rest of his skull
Kinda stupid of him if that's the case but I guess he's a bit too arrogant and care-free so it could be on character
I didn’t even think of that but yea if implemented correctly it seems like it’d be pretty hard to beat, also I started feeling motion sick once I thought about how fast we are all spinning in radial motion it’s like being on a big train that never stops it makes me so sick 😭
Kraftwerk vs Kraf Twerk.
Ive always thought that Kraftwerk would be one of the most powerful stands.
My personal favorite "minor antagonist" stand is Superfly, because name a user who fully utilized their stand better than that guy. HE TURNED A RADIO TOWER INTO A DOMAIN EXPANSION
So funny story about this.
I once accidentally “conceptualized” this kind ability. I went through a very similar train of thought, realizing the potential of the power to just stop things in place.
“Man, this would a really power for a villain if I ever got creative.”
I later realized “oh godammit it’s literally just Kraftwerk.”
you forget that the solar system is also revolving around the black hole at the center of the milky way at ~828,000 km/hr. I have had this exact thought process before; if kraftwerk managed to affect your head, it would shoot into space at ~21 times earth's escape velocity.
I interpret the second bullet being moved since he stopped it initially but then deactivated the stop so that he could move without it ripping through his brain. Then the other bullet wasn't stopped in time since his reaction time is still that of a humans. Also an issue with him stopping someone outside of the earth's movement is that it could backfire and the thing or person he stops could fly into him killing him aswell.
Kraftwerk with prep time is only rivaled by batman with prep time. Imagine spending a few million years to gradually accelerate a bullet to the speed of light.
Do a review of Underworld, that stand is THE most underrated in the series period. Its so good and nobody talks about it
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Using logic and momentum and...well, newtons law
Even if you stopped the guy for a FEMNTOSECOND, the "momentum" he had, its still there (i put it in quotes cause everything has momentum but the person you stopped, so its literally the same effect if you think about it) cause air, particles and everything has mass (except photons) so it makes a pushing force so even if they left the range, they would still fly in that direction at kilometers per second, so they would leave the earth's atmosphere, or be crushed aganist a building or wall, or aganist the ground to a point they would become a fine red mist, and even if they didin't hit anything, they're going faster than the speed of sound, so they would make a sonic boom doing a lot of damage, and crash on the air particles getting obliterated on to a red paste
Finally the Kraftwerk underated community can arise, we all see this potential, for me to thinks about it, dio can freeze time and you tell me that the guys who can freeze space is a little treat, yeah not for me.
plus to add your earth is moving, moving around the sun, the sun is also moving in the galaxy, while the galaxy itself move and the univers expend.
Anyways great video 👍
The second bullet didn't move a stuck bullet, he unstuck the bullet because if he moved and the bullet was still unmoving it would tear up the insides of his brain. He could have avoided it if he thought to stick the bullet in relation to his position like with the truck, but i guess he didn't think of that in the instant he was shot.
From how i understood kraftwerk it's the gmod weld tool that also stores kinetic energy he fixes objects relative to other objects he can fix things to the earth like he did with climbing the rocks but also pins them to the truck when fighting on it and if he could pin them to space itself it would be a terrible blunder when he fixes mistas arm to the truck and not just fixing his hand to space itself to let him fly off the truck
If Kraftwork was on a main jojo, main villain, or JoBro it would’ve been insane
I think it would've been cool to see kraftwerk speed things up using its control over kinetic energy instead of just stopping it in place.
Also he could do things such as generate heat if this were the case which could be pretty intresting to make use of.
Who knows maybe a alternate universe kraftwerk exists with this heightened control over kinetic energy.
Bro is using the immovable rod argument from DnD
That's what Ive been saying! Any stand that fucks with a fundamental aspect of reality is bonkers strong.
Say his stand upgrades, he now has the ability to store energy within himself or stand. He could create a blunderbuss by throwing pebbles, launch himself by punching himself, or create an air shockwave by pushing the air itself
There are also so many possibilities in base form and maybe even more techniques and abilities playing with such a fundamental force
I really thought his stinger was big enough to drag on the floor in the thumbnail
I mean I think it’s really cool with the heart separating from a person’s chest and being launched into the ground at 25,000mph but isn’t his ability to lock things in relation to other things? Like the bullets in mid-air, he locked them in relation to the truck otherwise it wouldn’t make any sense
So idk if he could launch people to space but that one-hit makes sense
For the brain bullet: I think he stopped the bullet then stopped using Kraftwerk so when he moves it doesn't rip staight through his brain. So when Mista shot it again it moved because he couldn't use Kraftwerk to stop the other bullet again as it would damage his brain if he moves and it would build up energy if he stopped it so he has to keep using his stand forever or die. I hope this makes sense 😅
Kraftwerk is such an amazing band, one of my favorite music references in JoJo
My favorite underrated stand.
My favourite stand
2:20 doesnt this debunk the you freeze you get launched into space because the earth is moving to fast for kraftwerk to work???
Maybe you can also deceide on the frame of reference, also Purple haze Feedback is not Canonical
@@alpharius6781there was never mention of purple haze feedback
@@Fierx24 yes, the scene where he tries to rip out someones heart is in purple haze Feedback
@@alpharius6781 that was not mentioned in this comment tho?
@@Fierx24 Oh, sorry I missunderstood that then
Kraftwerk doesn't work like this. It doesn't make you static in space, it fixes you to another object
then there's the fact he doesn't lock you u in place he locks you to something else he was locking everything to the truck so he can make weapons that are disjointed
You know what pissed me off about Kraftwerk? When Zelda BOTW came out and everyone did DIO Za Warudo jokes with the Stasis rune WHEN KRAFTWERK IS RIGHT THERE!!!!! IT LITERALLY DOES EXACTLY WHAT ITS ABILITY ISS!!!!!!!!!!
if Purple Haze Feedback ever becomes canon I hope the kraftworks guy survives
would be funny
glory days is kraftwerk in part 9
i just finished jojolion, i’m almost there
@ hope this gets you hyped
Kraftwork is probably working on the terrestrial referential tho
His ability is to fix objects relative to something else, like fixing something relative to the truck or to the Earth or to himself. The problem with your theory is that every object within his range is moving relative to Earth's motion. He can't fix someone to some other celestial body because it would be too far outside of his range.
I can't stop reading "craf twerk"
Ok let me try to somehow explain your theory physically:
English is not my first language, so idk if this is the correct english term. So inertial reference systems are basicallyclosed systems which are not effected by outside forces. For example there is the inertial system earth. The truck could also be seen as one (like assuming it would not speed up and assuming it does not drive around curves. I assume the things he freezes are frozen relativly to the same inertial system he is in. So when he is in the truck they are also frozen relativly to the truck.
Now you say he could also freeze objekts in other inertial systems, which would make sense as he is also in the intertial system earth as the inertial system of the truck is also in the system of the earth.
Now we can not say wether this works or not as we never learn how much controll he has oveer this power. But if you are correct then being frozen in the system of the earth would not send you flying as you would still be frozen relativly to the earth. But when talking about the solar system then yes you probably would get yeeted away. Now imma be honest I dont think he has the power to freeze it compared to the solar system. But we will never know.
And now make a video about the TRUE POTENTIAL of Ze Hando!
I swear, that stand has some of the most potential, and all they ever use it for is erasing air.
"Fly my child"
The TRUE Potential of Kraftwerk is null because it's a minor antagonist
He already uses frames of reference, if he understood relativity he could be planetary
you made kraftwerk go beyond
It seems pretty clear to me that kraftwerk freezes objects in relative space, and imo it does not appear that Sale is capable of freezing objects from any reference point other than his.
This has always been my opinion. Reason why it’s my favorite stand.
Good point and valid arguement; however, Heaven’s Door
:) you forgot to include the speed and direction at which our solar system is moving, or the speed and direction of the galaxy
Great video 👍 next episode four jjk
I thought that thumbnail was something WAY different
Heh, I thought about that a few months ago, but didn't consider any range or force limit so I accidentally made Basically God. It can go really far.
you forgot one thing, a really sharp sword has no durability which means it will break instantly but if u use kraft work on it the sword has infinite durability and if u use this on like paper it will be able to cut bone so, attach sharp wolverine wolverine claws to ur knuckles and boom ur him. also he only died cos he stopped focusing on the bullet and wasn't being affected by kraft work.
Here's what I've been pondering, can he scatter kinetic energy in the object? Like we see him throw things in one direction, but (if he stores enough energy) could he like shatter object into pieces by releasing kinetic energy in random directions.
I imagining him scattering a rock into shotgun like shrapnel to get multiple opponents.
4:43 What’s the meme and movie there? I want to give it a try.
Doctor Strange (2016)
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John vs butterfly: in space
I think it’s just relative velocity.
I WAS SAYING THIS FOR YEARS but for a different reason tho. I was thinking, if it can stop motion COMPLETELY at a controlled and atomic level, then it is technically capable of energy control and its base ability can create ABSOLUTE ZERO ! energy control why ? because all forms of energy at its core is just motion, either of electrons, particles for heat, photons whatever. and the fact it can also store kinetic energy in a motionless object demonstrates further that kraftwerk's true ability is COMPLETE ENERGY MANIPULATION TO AN ILLOGICAL DEGREE
@@exarquazowexa7247 this is actually really cool i wish i was smart enough to think of this
@ravsucks dawg i didn't think of the use you talked abt here either lol. i guess it just goes to show how completely absurd and total of a control over energy this guy has. creates absolute zero and manages to input energy inside of it without the absence of energy spreading. complete control and all that while he probably doesn't realize like half these concepts. bruh how did this guy even get a stand 🤦♂️ most special thing abt him is how normal he is in a show abt bizarreness
It has an E in Range and Potential -_-
Jesus Christ
Potential measures how much the stand itself can literally develop, as in obtain and improve upon existing abilites, not how much potential those abilities themselves have when applied. It is completely pointless for any kind of scaling
For instance Tusk Act 4 also has an E in potential, despite having one of the most busted and versatile abilities in the verse. All the previous Act's had A in potential, since they still had room to grow. Same went for D4C, which dropped from A to C after obtaining Love Train, and Star Platinum, which starts at A in early part 3 and drops to C in part 6
Brain dead comment
@user-zz3sn8ky7z THAT’S BECAUSE TUSK ACT 4 ALREADY REACHED IT’S FULL POTENTIAL AND CAN NO LONGER GROW ANY FURTHER
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
SURE THE STAND STATS MIGHT NOT MAKE SENSE
BUT THE STAND STATS LIKE [THE EMPEROR] ACTUALLY MAKE SENSE
IT HAS AN E IN PRECISION BECAUSE THE STAND ITSELF HAS NO PRECISION! ITS HOL HORSE HIMSELF CONTROL THE FUCKING BULLETS WHEN HE FOCUSES HARD ENOUGH
I WILL FOREVER SEE [KRAFT WORK]’S POTENTIAL AND RANGE IN E!!!!!
IF ARAKI DESIGNED THE STAND THAT WAY AND *CANT* DO SOMETHING BULLSHIT LIKE STOPPING THE EARTH’S ROTATION, THEN ACCEPT IT THAT WAY
FOR THE LOVE OF REO SPEEDWAGON
OMFG
nil this video was so entertaining I was even watching it while eating McDonalds
Can you make a video about Underworld? it has my favorite ability in JoJo, and I don’t see or hear anyone talking about it’s imo crazy potential
@@Ore_Jo Hmm… possibly! I didn’t expect this one to take off but I’m thinking about making it a series, and if so then it’s definitely on the list!
@ I appreciate the reply, that’d be really cool. Whatever stand you do, I’d be down to watch more. Have a good one
if he punched his static bullets punchy stand they could obliterate lots
I disagree, metaphysically speaking the earth is at the centre of the universe (basically since we’re the only life in the universe).
Edit: wait… if Karl’s is technically alive then are we truly the only life in the universe? I suppose the stand only works relative to what is the largest object closest to it, whether that be the Galaxy or the moon, the user cannot decide how his own powers work.
I also think since stands are magic you can’t really do a scientific explanation of how they work, and magic is relative, science is objective.
kraftwerk requiem when
YES MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE STAND FINALLY YES I LOVE YOU MAKE ME KIDS
shut up, *locks you in place in relation to the universe*