Wanted to thank you for the uv lamp. My first harvest you could tell the difference. Flavor and potency both increased. I know because I'm running strains that I'm very familiar with. Just so happy to tell you the news!
Which one, the one before they added their canna green? I have the one prior to that, the evo mint, paid 999. I think it's a better life because it has more of the Samsung LEDs rather than the green. ones. Looks like they took some of the Samsung ones out and replace them with the green ones and made the Light cheaper
I just noticed I haven't sub for this channel yet even tho I watched probably every video heh. But these type of things I'm interest in and see how technology gets better in this area year by year. Big thanks to Migro channel, I have learned alot from you.
These are by far, the most honest reviews on TH-cam. Thank you Shane! A welcomed change from the shameless people that just promote their own products, despite their shortcomings. Shane is a solid guy that makes a solid product. Thank you sir.
Okay so maybe I’m missing something here… but isn’t the total cost after 3 years figured by adding the initial cost of the light to the cost of operating the light for 3 years? IF SO (and maybe I’m wrong) then these total are incorrect. At least the first 5 are incorrect. Like I said possibly I’m doing something wrong here. ANY help would be greatly appreciated as I am trying to make an informed decision😅 4:17
Great video!! I’ve seen a lot of great results and I’ve heard a lot of good things about your grow light the Array 4. Now im looking forward to add it to my grow
Please test the Lazerlight 720W Pro. I have this light and it works perfect. For my opinion its the best light and under valued. You can become this lamp with 5 year garantee for 240 euro.
How about those RDJ Bouns 720W bar fixture lights on Amazon for $325. They're always recommended for price, and I purchased one when my Alibaba bar fixture driver failed, and I needed a quick replacement. I was really bummed out, because your MIGRO 750 was coming out a month later. Had to keep the lights on though, and this has worked okay since July. It'd be interesting to see a review, and they'd probably send you one. There motto, "To make a light that will not break", lol, was pretty funny. Definitely a Chinese company, like many. Thanks for all you do Shane!
correct me if im wrong, but most of the lights were tested with the old par-spectrum right? While some,. including the Migro aray, were measured with epar? That means the other lights look worse than they actually are because you have to add 3-5%umol, right?
Yes, you are correect. There is 1 to 2% far red in most led fixtures with white LEDs. The fixtures in this list were tested over about three years. I would have tested the last 1.5 to 2 years with the ePAR meter and before that the Apogee SQ500 and Spoton meter which do not detect that 2 to 3% far red.
@@MIGROLIGHTcould you plz explain your numbers to me… turns out your math and mine are not producing the same total cost. I assume light cost plus 3 year electric cost equals total 3 year expense…? But when I add the two numbers together I don’t get the same answer as you😅 0:52
Just bought the white rose 4000w LED off Amazon & then this pops up..... Knew I should of checked in with migro first let's hope this white rose was worth it!!!
Im considering to buy the MIGRO 5X5 ansd by checking the color spectrum, it hasn't a considerate red peak on its wavelength.. but is very balanced, is there a good explanation? Or just it is what it is?
Love the content. But how about doing a light review on the varidrive maxibright 720 w Might be a good light for people on a budget as most people can’t afford a lot of lights on the market. 👍
Love the channel here in the states any chance you could look into reviewing the California lightworks lights spectramax especially they are my favorite company here but also interested in black dog LED reviews. Both companies highly rated and performing but would love to see you break them down. Grower's love brother!
How do you calculate avg PAR? You said you calculated running cost @ 800 µmols/(5x5)/sec. However the numbers shown for PAR vary wildly from that. Are the shown values measurements of the lights running @ 100%? Did you simply extrapolate from the measurements @100% to reach the running costs? That would be somewhat misleading as some lights will run @ 100% to reach avg. of 800 while others would have to be dialled down a to more efficient ranges. Wouldn't it be more illustrative to show the intensity grid when they actually reach 800µmols and the wattage used? I realise that making all those measurements would be exhausting but you don't get a true representation of hotspots nor running costs when the intensities vary that much.
Bestva 4000 and HONORSEN 3000 , and 2 1000 lights in a 5x10 …. Along with C02 = 🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳you don’t have to spend thousands on lights for small rooms. Had some buds so heavy they snapped the stems.
got the spider se1000w for my first 5x5, ended up deciding to get the ac infinity evo10 for my 2nd tent. its cheaper then the se1000w with the discount code and claim an efficiency of 3.14 µmol/J PPE. still new but like it so far, lot easier to set up then the spider and looks a lot nicer
@@rickheath5507 if you want to max it out you do, i've been topping out at 7/10 on the brightness and find it to be more than enough for flower without Co2
Please explain why PPFD/Watt and PAR are measured at different heights? Some lamps have 50cm, some have 35cm, some have 40cm. Shouldn't it be the same height, for objective measurements and comparison?
I just upgraded my two SP3000 to one of the new AC Infinity IonFrame Evo8 lights. Most expensive grow equipment I have ever purchased, hopefully it pays off!
Actually getting a light that does what it says..... The Ac Infinity lights underperform to say the least. Plus they literally only have a 1 year warranty. This same channel has videos showing this sir.... Your grow, your money. Do as you please. But the information is there
What do you have lighting for a 2 / 4 closet?What light would be sufficient?I want to have the largest light that takes up most of the space.Thank you please get back to me
@@metatron6066 I'm not sure about the older models, but my Kind X750 is a beast. Not a fair comparison to make, but it outperforms my other lights. Mars FC-6500, AC Infinity S44, Viparspectra XS-4000.
I noticed something very interesting. I was mesuring PAR levels of differnet lights, with two differentAPP and all worked out well. I have an LED flloodlight and with both app, showed (unreal) very low PAR level, but the interesting thing is that the closer I put my meter to the floodlight the smaller the PAR level get. Why is that happenenig, does anyone know what the limitation we see here with mobile APPS? Does it happened with anyon else?
Hi shane looking to place an order with you, i have a 9ft x 11ft space, im not planning on running co2, what leds lights would you recomend for my space
800umol average is a middle number or average PAR I use for comparison purposes. It equates to 35 Mols per day which is a good performance level. Various PAR meters used from apogee and Innoquest. They only require calibration every 12 months but I get new ones sent to me free so I just change up.
@@MIGROLIGHT why would you use different uncalibrated meters in a scientific test? The aim is to reduce variables, not add new ones. It is if you are being genuine that is.
hello sir, have u ever done a test of DIMLUX lights? its a dutch company that claims to have the best price/performance ratio on the market. cant find any reviews on it aynwhere.
@@seventeen9718 are you sure about that? Seems like a real powerful light. Wouldn't surprise me if Porsche is using quality diodes on their 3k USD headlight. With powerful light and good spread. I just wanna see the data
@@jaimedelgado7529 You can get a good quality spread and PPFD nowadays for extremely cheap. I'd say average person that would risk a theft charge over saving £500 for a quality light (for sub-par results), doesn't have the intelligence to know proper horticultural practice/science, absolutely.
Is there anyway you can test a 800 watts 15 spectrum led light I just received it. I had for 4 days at a price of $395 it amazing plants are growing at a rapid pace. I am so impressed with the spectrum must see
Hi, 27ft x 27ft = 729 ft. You need about 30 watts per square ft. That's 30 x 729 = 21Kw or 29 x 750W ARAY 5X5. That's a bulk order for us so message me @ info@migrolight.com for a discount offer, thanks, Shane
Mammoth mint 680w is $699 not $799 - the 880w is $849. , for the price they blow the others away and some of the cheapest to buy with some of the highest build quality , why get marrs or spider or ac when mammoth is same price or cheaper
Would love see you test optic led new 320 4x2 light with 3 controls to adjust light zones it uses all Samsung LEDs whites red and blue and I’ve-ir. Uses 5 LEDs per watt.
So can someone clarify for me cause Ive been trying to figure this out. This is saying there is not much benefit going over 480watts in a 4x4 right? Im ordering a 4x8 tent and led lights but thought it would be beneficial to get a 860w like spiderfarm g8600 or a 1000w but after watching this video im not too sure. Is it better off just getting two 480-600 watt lights since the yield would be barely increased with a 860-1000 watt light?
It's better to buy wall to wall coverage with more watts then what you need, and dim it down. The FC6500 would actually be better for a 4x4, you don't have to crank it all the way up, but the spread is superior compared to the FC4800. Learn from my mistake, I bought a FC4800 for one of my 4x4 and regret it.
dimlux extreme 750w o 100wHello, good afternoon, I really like your videos. I have a Dimlux and I would love to hear your opinion about it. They have a multispectral sensor on the digital screen, nominal pt correction area, it's amazing. I hope you can take a look at it. The digital screen has everything, apart from the 140W UV+NIR controller. I hope you get a response. Thank you for your content.
Just got the Array 4x4 and are very pleased! Super light! Love your reviews!
Wanted to thank you for the uv lamp. My first harvest you could tell the difference. Flavor and potency both increased. I know because I'm running strains that I'm very familiar with. Just so happy to tell you the news!
Please tell us more which uv lamps and how do you use It ?
Great work Shane. Tt for your tine and efforts to simplify the light options available for us.
I only paid $545 after applying the discounts for a G8600 from Spider Farmer. I'm happy, in a 4x4 with tank Co2. RDWC, thank you for suggesting it.
What discounts ?
Thank you once again always a pleasure your consi and to the point we appreciate that thank you for your time hope you have a good day
Mammoth for the win. The mint white is by far the best fixture ive used.
What other fixtures have you used? Trying to decide between Mammoth and Fohse Pices.
Which one, the one before they added their canna green? I have the one prior to that, the evo mint, paid 999. I think it's a better life because it has more of the Samsung LEDs rather than the green. ones. Looks like they took some of the Samsung ones out and replace them with the green ones and made the Light cheaper
I was literally just on Amazon looking for a 5x5 or 4x4...then you pop up in my recommended!
The AC infinity Evo10 is the best if that's what you are looking for.
@@WeAreLegion-no it’s not be fr
Amazon stinks bro
It's a sign from God to like and subscribe
I have 2 g4500s in a 5x5. But certainly looking to find something else for that tent.
Shane, you don't even image how this helps, thank you very much !
I just noticed I haven't sub for this channel yet even tho I watched probably every video heh. But these type of things I'm interest in and see how technology gets better in this area year by year. Big thanks to Migro channel, I have learned alot from you.
These are by far, the most honest reviews on TH-cam. Thank you Shane!
A welcomed change from the shameless people that just promote their own products, despite their shortcomings.
Shane is a solid guy that makes a solid product.
Thank you sir.
I have the mars hydro smart fc 8000 Evo for my 5x5 and it's working beautifully
I love your Work. The way you are doing your videos, the level of detail, amazing. You are an expert in your field!
I can say that because i am knowing what iam talking about
Okay so maybe I’m missing something here… but isn’t the total cost after 3 years figured by adding the initial cost of the light to the cost of operating the light for 3 years? IF SO (and maybe I’m wrong) then these total are incorrect. At least the first 5 are incorrect. Like I said possibly I’m doing something wrong here. ANY help would be greatly appreciated as I am trying to make an informed decision😅 4:17
The tarantula is even more efficient if you dim slightly or hang higher. It is truly the best. 6x6 tent minimum
I use in 4x4 wrong
Great video!! I’ve seen a lot of great results and I’ve heard a lot of good things about your grow light the Array 4. Now im looking forward to add it to my grow
Tarantula tent dimmed down is the best for hobby gardening.
Thanks shane for your reply I completely understand & keep up the great work.
Quite a few of these have " blue" corners. Surprising,
the blue fixture doesn't😅 The GML, HLG bar and Tarantula, and MIGRO lights are all impressive.
Tarantula ultimate par map is crazy! So uniform, 1300 in corners?? Might need to get one of those
Medic grow smart 8. Regularly goes on sale and with promo 450 to the door. 760 watts.
How about the medicgrow fold 8? 800w and $280 to the door no controller but ACI controller works with an adapter
@@WhiteBirdPlays can you confirm the fold 8 works well with the aci controller 69? You’re about to save me hella $ for my bday if so!🙌🏽
severely underrated video... this shit is a chill sesh, I could chill to this in an elevator
GML tarantula tent ultimate is the nuts. Hoping you get their new spectrum tuning range in, at 1500w each.
Please test the Lazerlight 720W Pro. I have this light and it works perfect. For my opinion its the best light and under valued. You can become this lamp with 5 year garantee for 240 euro.
What do you expect gram wise?
Great vid! Man I really like yours! Love the wide bars!
The hlg runs really cool though, with a fan it's even better
How about those RDJ Bouns 720W bar fixture lights on Amazon for $325. They're always recommended for price, and I purchased one when my Alibaba bar fixture driver failed, and I needed a quick replacement.
I was really bummed out, because your MIGRO 750 was coming out a month later. Had to keep the lights on though, and this has worked okay since July.
It'd be interesting to see a review, and they'd probably send you one. There motto, "To make a light that will not break", lol, was pretty funny. Definitely a Chinese company, like many.
Thanks for all you do Shane!
correct me if im wrong, but most of the lights were tested with the old par-spectrum right? While some,. including the Migro aray, were measured with epar? That means the other lights look worse than they actually are because you have to add 3-5%umol, right?
Yes, you are correect. There is 1 to 2% far red in most led fixtures with white LEDs. The fixtures in this list were tested over about three years. I would have tested the last 1.5 to 2 years with the ePAR meter and before that the Apogee SQ500 and Spoton meter which do not detect that 2 to 3% far red.
@@MIGROLIGHTcould you plz explain your numbers to me… turns out your math and mine are not producing the same total cost. I assume light cost plus 3 year electric cost equals total 3 year expense…? But when I add the two numbers together I don’t get the same answer as you😅 0:52
could you do a video on light movers
Just bought the white rose 4000w LED off Amazon & then this pops up..... Knew I should of checked in with migro first let's hope this white rose was worth it!!!
Cheap Chinese light should of bought something better than this it's got poor reviews
It's 240w not the 4000w it claims
Parfactworks ze700 runnin for almost 3 years...great light no issues so far
Medic grow, Samphon, viparspectra, Aglex and grandmaster led all good deals.
Im considering to buy the MIGRO 5X5 ansd by checking the color spectrum, it hasn't a considerate red peak on its wavelength.. but is very balanced, is there a good explanation? Or just it is what it is?
Love the content. But how about doing a light review on the varidrive maxibright 720 w
Might be a good light for people on a budget as most people can’t afford a lot of lights on the market. 👍
Love the channel here in the states any chance you could look into reviewing the California lightworks lights spectramax especially they are my favorite company here but also interested in black dog LED reviews. Both companies highly rated and performing but would love to see you break them down. Grower's love brother!
what about the vivosun lineup they hae excllent lights just got the vsfd 6500 2.8 efficiency better than most on your list
Love these videos. Keep it up
Finalizing my order for the Aray 4. Can't wait!
looking forward to hear your feedback :)
Amazing information!
How do you calculate avg PAR? You said you calculated running cost @ 800 µmols/(5x5)/sec. However the numbers shown for PAR vary wildly from that. Are the shown values measurements of the lights running @ 100%? Did you simply extrapolate from the measurements @100% to reach the running costs? That would be somewhat misleading as some lights will run @ 100% to reach avg. of 800 while others would have to be dialled down a to more efficient ranges. Wouldn't it be more illustrative to show the intensity grid when they actually reach 800µmols and the wattage used? I realise that making all those measurements would be exhausting but you don't get a true representation of hotspots nor running costs when the intensities vary that much.
Good video. Thanks for your time
Bestva 4000 and HONORSEN 3000 , and 2 1000 lights in a 5x10 …. Along with C02 = 🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳you don’t have to spend thousands on lights for small rooms. Had some buds so heavy they snapped the stems.
You can grow with almost any light, the difference is efficiency and spread.
got the spider se1000w for my first 5x5, ended up deciding to get the ac infinity evo10 for my 2nd tent. its cheaper then the se1000w with the discount code and claim an efficiency of 3.14 µmol/J PPE. still new but like it so far, lot easier to set up then the spider and looks a lot nicer
Do you have to run c02 with the ac infinity in a 5x5 ?
@@rickheath5507 if you want to max it out you do, i've been topping out at 7/10 on the brightness and find it to be more than enough for flower without Co2
Please explain why PPFD/Watt and PAR are measured at different heights? Some lamps have 50cm, some have 35cm, some have 40cm. Shouldn't it be the same height, for objective measurements and comparison?
If I’m in a 10x10 would I need 2 of these?
The HLG Tomahawk might be the best looking fixture, some simple but nice at the same time.
I just upgraded my two SP3000 to one of the new AC Infinity IonFrame Evo8 lights. Most expensive grow equipment I have ever purchased, hopefully it pays off!
Bout to do the same.
Save up a little more and get a HLG Scorpion diablo V2 or a Grand Master Led
@@jptatts404whats the point?
Actually getting a light that does what it says.....
The Ac Infinity lights underperform to say the least. Plus they literally only have a 1 year warranty.
This same channel has videos showing this sir.... Your grow, your money. Do as you please. But the information is there
I would not get the ac infinity light I’m looking to upgrade from my ac infinity
Would be good to see you test the hi par 1030 Watter
them HLG are garbage at dispersion
Medic grow starlink 680 watt 260 to the door when it was stocked.
So many lights for 4x4. I see 3 lights for 5x5. And absolute winner is GML ultimate tent. There is no other light that can match it.
🐑
@@jimd1617 you like sheeps?
GML is a con artist hustling the grow community since he started using LEDS
@@tzone962explain more so I won’t buy from him I’m trying to make an educated purchase explain your reasoning
lol and the winner for the dumbest comment goes to ….you !
What is the best led that will compare with my hps lumatek digital ballast 😮
why ac infinity is not there ?
What do you have lighting for a 2 / 4 closet?What light would be sufficient?I want to have the largest light that takes up most of the space.Thank you please get back to me
I have a 4x8 tent.
I also have a light rail. What wattage light would you recommend.
I've never seen you review Kind LED. Any certain reason?
no reason other than they have never sent me one.
Total trashhhhh
@@metatron6066 I'm not sure about the older models, but my Kind X750 is a beast. Not a fair comparison to make, but it outperforms my other lights. Mars FC-6500, AC Infinity S44, Viparspectra XS-4000.
I noticed something very interesting. I was mesuring PAR levels of differnet lights, with two differentAPP and all worked out well. I have an LED flloodlight and with both app, showed (unreal) very low PAR level, but the interesting thing is that the closer I put my meter to the floodlight the smaller the PAR level get. Why is that happenenig, does anyone know what the limitation we see here with mobile APPS? Does it happened with anyon else?
Nice list!
Any reason why the Kingbrite was not mentioned in this 'best' grow light 2024?
Photo bio Mx 680 it stays cool and has done really good thanks for all the info
Gml Tarantula Vulcan Magma is 760 watt according Gml website but in your test only 707 watt. Can you explain please?
I would love the test of the Lazerlite pro 720w cause i'm about to buy a few of them ty for the video
Why didn't you test gavita?
what leds would you use for a 5 x 9
Hi shane looking to place an order with you, i have a 9ft x 11ft space, im not planning on running co2, what leds lights would you recomend for my space
Hi. I think 6 x ARAY 4X4 would suit your space perfectly and allow room to get around between the lights (just)
What was the reasoning behind 800umol? What measurement device was used and was it calibrated each time?
800umol average is a middle number or average PAR I use for comparison purposes. It equates to 35 Mols per day which is a good performance level. Various PAR meters used from apogee and Innoquest. They only require calibration every 12 months but I get new ones sent to me free so I just change up.
@@MIGROLIGHT why would you use different uncalibrated meters in a scientific test? The aim is to reduce variables, not add new ones. It is if you are being genuine that is.
What do you think about Dimlux Led's?
We would really appreciate a test of this brand...
Best Channel for Led reviews 👏
It would be interesting which specs they have after 20000h.
Lower brands mostly, what about the gavita rs 2400 and_or the Growers choice ROI-E900 ??? What are you're thoughts on these?
Btw i mostly use the Growers choice e720's but i got one migro array 5x5 🫡
What about optic led lights ? Are they not good enough to make your list ?
they have never sent me one for test
hello sir,
have u ever done a test of DIMLUX lights? its a dutch company that claims to have the best price/performance ratio on the market. cant find any reviews on it aynwhere.
Thinkgrow led?
Shane I would ABSOLUTLY LOVE to see you test the Porsche headlights with xenon gas that are all the rage lately. I want to see what the hype is about
Lol the clowns using Porsche headlights in their nans attic wouldn't have a clue what PPFD/DLI is.
@@seventeen9718 are you sure about that? Seems like a real powerful light. Wouldn't surprise me if Porsche is using quality diodes on their 3k USD headlight. With powerful light and good spread. I just wanna see the data
@@jaimedelgado7529 You can get a good quality spread and PPFD nowadays for extremely cheap. I'd say average person that would risk a theft charge over saving £500 for a quality light (for sub-par results), doesn't have the intelligence to know proper horticultural practice/science, absolutely.
So have anyone have information on redfarm leds?
dimlux xtreme series with nir and UV? no test😢
Could you please test Luxx and Optic leds?
Wasn’t aware of progrow Ty.
Hi Shane... The Kingbrite not good enough for this list?
Would the Migro Aray 5x5 750W be a good light for a 4x4 tent?
We have Been in touch with our head office? Hope to see TNB on your channel soon.
what happened to the medic grow series? are they no longer a reputable company?
They are in our 4x4 test video, link here: th-cam.com/video/eTZvFpLfzaw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=5hsOlL46KGp7CPiV
Is there anyway you can test a 800 watts 15 spectrum led light I just received it. I had for 4 days at a price of $395 it amazing plants are growing at a rapid pace. I am so impressed with the spectrum must see
can u test the thinkgrow model h plus pls i want to know if the par map they got is real ?
Have you thought about making any residential light fixtures? I feel like what's available is so shit especially compared to grow lights.
can u test the New lumatek zeus 600 3.1 is the average par they listed real ?
Anyone knows whats the best LED for a 4x4 right now available in EU? I got sanlight evo+ but looking for something new.
Always great content I am looking for the best light for a 27x27 what’s your suggestion Shane
Hi, 27ft x 27ft = 729 ft. You need about 30 watts per square ft. That's 30 x 729 = 21Kw or 29 x 750W ARAY 5X5. That's a bulk order for us so message me @ info@migrolight.com for a discount offer, thanks, Shane
Feet , Inches, or Centimeters?
Mammoth mint 680w is $699 not $799 - the 880w is $849. , for the price they blow the others away and some of the cheapest to buy with some of the highest build quality , why get marrs or spider or ac when mammoth is same price or cheaper
Regarding the Lumatek Photontek 600w pro which one is it? the 2.6, 2.7, 2.9, or 3.1? The 3.1 claims 1990μmol/s using 640W.
I have lumatek 200w pro & am very pleased with it.
Thank you so much ❤
Thank you for all you do. Why dont you review Kind leds? Are they not worth talking about?
Would love see you test optic led new 320 4x2 light with 3 controls to adjust light zones it uses all Samsung LEDs whites red and blue and I’ve-ir. Uses 5 LEDs per watt.
Has anyone checked the math on his total cost to own for 3 years? Unless I’m not doing it right his totals are incorrect😮😅…. Hopefully I’m wrong
Is the prowgrow 1800 available in the UK?
Shit soectrum and not the best efficency. Dont do it 😂
Has anyone trued the GLMX720C Demountable 720w I'm thinking about buying one but just don't know if it's what I want in a 5x5
how id the EVO8 by AC not make the list at all..
In conclusion which would you recommend for best actual light? I'm leaning towards the grow science one.
I can't find anywhere to buy one unless you are buying many of them. Did you find one?
No ac infinity ionframe evo 8 testing?
Should have tested the geekbeats pro at 5x5
Where is AC infinity?
So can someone clarify for me cause Ive been trying to figure this out. This is saying there is not much benefit going over 480watts in a 4x4 right? Im ordering a 4x8 tent and led lights but thought it would be beneficial to get a 860w like spiderfarm g8600 or a 1000w but after watching this video im not too sure. Is it better off just getting two 480-600 watt lights since the yield would be barely increased with a 860-1000 watt light?
It's better to buy wall to wall coverage with more watts then what you need, and dim it down. The FC6500 would actually be better for a 4x4, you don't have to crank it all the way up, but the spread is superior compared to the FC4800. Learn from my mistake, I bought a FC4800 for one of my 4x4 and regret it.
dimlux extreme 750w o 100wHello, good afternoon, I really like your videos. I have a Dimlux and I would love to hear your opinion about it. They have a multispectral sensor on the digital screen, nominal pt correction area, it's amazing. I hope you can take a look at it. The digital screen has everything, apart from the 140W UV+NIR controller. I hope you get a response. Thank you for your content.