Volantex ASW28 - yet another awesome glider... BUT...

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  • Volantex ASW28 glider: bit.ly/Volantex-ASW28-V2
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    Yes, I finally got me an ASW28 glider, because so many of you asked me to review it, and I have to say that this is an awesome piece of plane! It is fast and agile and can do aerobatics without much effort... so it is quite fun... but as long as you run it on 4S, forget about the 3S stuff the manual recommends! Slap a 4S battery in there and it will liven up quite a bit... but you might need some weight at the back to balance that out! I do have some gripe with the QC on the tail pieces, and how they were glued... or... not... glued, and also with the lack of proper plastic hinges on the control surfaces! Come on Volantex... you slap a V2 to this model... at least bring it REALLY up to date! Otherwise... awesome performance and flight characteristics and if kept light it will do amazing things!
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  • @heatbill1261
    @heatbill1261 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for the tips and the warning of the glue issue. I questioned the integrity of the plastic fitment upon initial inspection but will now perform some stress tests before final assembly.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad I can help! Good luck! 🙂

  • @julianhumphrey4843
    @julianhumphrey4843 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice honest review and great flying

  • @Smt_Glaive
    @Smt_Glaive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I absolutely love this airplane

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, seems to be the common theme with it! :)

  • @rogerrabbit4284
    @rogerrabbit4284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video, great info . Thank you

  • @wordreet
    @wordreet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes it's an excellent machine for the price. but soon after I maidened mine, I added 3 pieces of credit card plastic between the tailplane and the top of the tail at the rear screw. This changes the wing to tailplane incidence angle and really changed the gilder into a floater, in my opinion. Also I generally use smaller batteries, like 1300mah lipo. And the final "2 mods in one go" I did was a big one. I removed the red winglets, stiffened the whole wing with 10mmx1mm carbon strips, installed edge on into the wings, and all the way out into some wing extensions I made up from ordinary polystyrene foam. It wasn't easy and the tips are kind of fragile, but they are covered with glass reinforced tape and seem to work well enough.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn... you've gone all out on this mod, well done! :)

    • @wordreet
      @wordreet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArxangelRC Thanx

    • @wordreet
      @wordreet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArxangelRC Hehe, RIP credit card!

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahahahaha... yeah... I know how that feels!

  • @tomam258
    @tomam258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gonna get it and try to do a bit of high altitude flying if its possible. Great review!

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, should be possible! :) Thanks!

  • @philoso377
    @philoso377 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As you may already know that tail mass can increase tail inertia for sluggish pitch response to a less handling pleasure in flight control. This could be a practice when all else is not an option. Hope this helps.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      True... might consider removing the wheel and moving the battery further back! Should improve things quite a bit!

  • @mandokani
    @mandokani 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry but forgot to mention that I really enjoy your videos. Keep them coming.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha, thank you! :)

  • @gloplg
    @gloplg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ASW28 is a nice looking model. And YES the tail needs more glue! Had a similar problem top and bottom with a runcam swift mini on it. My heavy landings did not help either. Need to be slightly tail heavy to glide properly. Camera on the tail and metal gear servos mean no lead needed. Another interesting video. Please keep them coming!

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well... perhaps even a Vtx back there as well... should all add up proper balance, especially with a bigger battery!

  • @btbplanevids
    @btbplanevids 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It goes great on 3S if you just fit bigger prop blades - I use 12x8. I fly on a 3S 2700 which has to go under the rear (top) ply plate to get a sensible CG - I took the front plate out as it serves no real purpose, and the wheel & well to make more room for the battery. Finally, as you discovered the tailplane incidence is out ... it needs the trailing edge raising about 2mm to avoid flying with a ton of up trim. For convenience I changed the wiring harness to use a single 4-pin plug to each wing.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds good, but I do fly with this motor on 4S with 12x8 prop on the Phoenix 2400... and it works great too! :)

    • @btbplanevids
      @btbplanevids 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArxangelRC are you using the ASW's lower Kv motor in the Phoenix? AFAIK the ASW still comes with an 850 Kv, whereas the Phoenix (and Ranger) have a 1050 Kv one. That would pull some serious amps with a 12x8 on 4S! My 850 Kv motor on 3S is around 36A with the 12x8.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got the motor separately for the Phoenix 2400! And yes, 850Kv on both planes.

  • @colbourne666
    @colbourne666 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had the same trouble with the fin falling off. Also don't trust the foam hinges. I had an aileron detach. I use full length aileron tape hinges that work well

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, I haven't trusted foam hinges in a while on larger planes, but nowadays at least most manufacturers started putting in plastic hinges as well. I only semi-trust foam hinges on smaller craft!

  • @adlapl
    @adlapl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had the same, it is supreme in its parameters and performance.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good to know! :)

  • @mikesierra8593
    @mikesierra8593 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! What an enthusiastic tone of voice.

    • @iansummers6945
      @iansummers6945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I sense a touch of sarcasm here.....lol. Lucky the actual content of video made up for his excitement.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha... thanks... I guess! :P

  • @julianhumphrey4843
    @julianhumphrey4843 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am glad you highlighted the poor glue joints, lets hope volantex take notice, also its time they fitted better servo`s, even if this means putting the model price up but a few dollars

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have talked to them and they said they will address this issue... lets hope that turns out to be true!

  • @collinsnjarara3352
    @collinsnjarara3352 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video , rock on

  • @caesarillion
    @caesarillion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am putting this kit together right now but no battery yet and never used Lipo either. How long can you fly on power? Have you slope soared it yet? Thermalled? It sure looks nice but I calculated the blunt 1/8" trailing edges added up 12" sq of base drag so I am sharpening them . Years ago I had an Astroflite ASW-15 with ailerons coupled to rudder. Flew like a dream. Thanks, live 100 years.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually my endurance runs were on a LiIon 4S2P battery, around 6000mAh, and it could go up to 1 hour powered flight... not sure how much you can do with soaring, and I've not done slope soaring yet! The Autopilot I have in the Phoenix 2400 does automatically couple the ailerons with the rudder for single stick coordinated turns, but it is pretty docile... so most of the time I do end up giving it rudder as well!

  • @robd8577
    @robd8577 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subscribed. Great channel!!

  • @baginatora
    @baginatora 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, Nikola
    I need some advice- glider or delta wing for a beginner? (by "delta wing" I mean the 525 brushless motor airplane on banggood)
    I've seen this hull being loaded with the Parrot Disco guts in another video a.k.a Parrot Disco Night Fury mod, so it got me thinking which one is more efficient and noob-proof.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well... flying wings are definitely a bit more sturdy as a design for a noob... but I am not a fan... not sure it is the best option for a noob... better start with something Cub-like... to get some flight hours in!

  • @guytero8812
    @guytero8812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spasibo for the video. Your English is so good.

  • @alexandrpetrov1110
    @alexandrpetrov1110 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice!

  • @zeno6111753
    @zeno6111753 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, very informative!
    Would you suggest this plane over the Phoenix 2400 if you're going thermal hunting?

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Well... I am not certain what the requirements for a plane are, for thermals... but at slightly higher weight, the Phoenix does have more wing surface area, but this one would be quicker and possibly a bit more agile!

    • @henryhudd1316
      @henryhudd1316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yea, I have both, this glider is easer to thermal the Phoenix is kind of slow at it so I would recommend this.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@henryhudd1316 Thanks for your input! :)

  • @LotharKrupka
    @LotharKrupka 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Nikola, I bought this glider from the Banggood EU warehouse a few weeks ago, but they refused to ship it to Romania because the box was too large. Do you buy yours from EU or from China directly?

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mine came from China with EU priority shipping... no customs... no idea why they would refuse to ship it within EU though... the box is not that big!

  • @The_Pub_
    @The_Pub_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still catching up on your reviews.
    As always.. Informative and Direct as I like, No BS.
    I will stick with the Phoenix and Ranger at the moment. Hope that Volantex LISTEN to your Constructive criticism though!!

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks mate, appreciate it! :)

    • @user-oo1pu6bj1c
      @user-oo1pu6bj1c 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArxangelRC а чо денег на карбон не хватило? Нищий.
      Я при ваших зарплатах на супре летал минимум

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-oo1pu6bj1c Oh... you know what "our" salaries are?

    • @user-oo1pu6bj1c
      @user-oo1pu6bj1c 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArxangelRC Так эта дрянь стоит 200 баксов
      за 500-600 намного достойный аппарат а это что.
      От силы за сезон будет грязный

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-oo1pu6bj1c Well... this has its uses, and people seem to like it! I don't see a problem!

  • @BrianPhillipsRC
    @BrianPhillipsRC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any issues with 4S yet? I fried a BEC (I think that's what happened) in my first one, and killed it :(.... Luckily I've since worked on and flown TWO more.. GREAT plane!!!

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      None issues yet! Using an external BEC should ease up the load on the ESC anyway!

  • @scott9141
    @scott9141 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. Thanks for your videos. Can you explain more about the battery, please? How do you calculate a 4S lipo system to a LiIon (4x?) cells system? I'd like to try this. Cheers.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well... with LiIons you do have more considerations compared to a LiPo, mainly because of they lower discharge rates! I estimate or measure the max amp draw of a system, and build a LiIon battery based on those specs. Not that difficult! For instance, if we are talking about high current situations... perhaps in some of them a LiPo is still the better option, but there are some higher drain LiIon cells, which do have a bit lower capacity... but still better power to weight ration than LiPo.

  • @michaelmuldoonmikesm08
    @michaelmuldoonmikesm08 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    detailed, thanks

  • @ruisimoes3638
    @ruisimoes3638 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi!!! Nice review. Do you ever use variometer (not sure if this is the right name) ? if so, can you explain a little? thankks

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I have seen people using them, but personally I have not used one, usually I have an autopilot in these planes and it reports the altitude and vertical speeds on the OSD overlay, on the video feed!

  • @jirihamersky6152
    @jirihamersky6152 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like it, I would buy it. Would you recommend it - I mean in terms of quality? Thank you very much.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  ปีที่แล้ว

      It could be better, but for the most part it works well! Might serve you well to reinforce the T-tail, but in general it is a nice plane! Not as though as the Ranger though!

  • @alexandrpetrov1110
    @alexandrpetrov1110 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @williamcramer7391
    @williamcramer7391 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flitetest quote: "More glue doesn't equal stronger, just more weight"

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  ปีที่แล้ว

      Generally it is so!

  • @edwindeleon
    @edwindeleon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello,
    Love your videos and reviews. I am planning on purchasing this plane within a few days.
    Question: how is this plane compared to the radian? I have the radian and I wanna say I'm passed the "new flyer stage"
    IS the asw 28 a good 2nd plane ?? Is it easy to fly?
    I like flying to scale and fly med to slow sperd and glide around. I've seen some other people TH-cam review that this plane is quite challenging to fly and hard to get into the air. Some people said it's hard to launch the plane and you have to run then throw the plane to get it to fly from launch.
    Like what I said I'm pased the "beginner stage" BUT I'm not an expert in flying just yet ( NO acrobatics and 3D FLIGHT). I'm more of a novice flyer. Also I wanted to add that I flew a REAL PLANE in my high school. It was part of an elective class that I took. So i can add that as a somewhat experience to my flying.
    Would you recommend this asw28 as a second plane?

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! :)
      Honestly... I've never had to run to get a plane into the air... not idea what that is about! Running while throwing is not really adding any speed to the model because it is hard to run with that thing above your hand, and then it is even harder to throw it well in those conditions... so basically you are better off staying in one place and just doing a nice strong throw! That being said... really not sure why the ASW28 would be hard to throw... yes, it does require quite a bit of weight to the tail to balance, and if you don't add that... then throwing might become an issue, but with proper CG it is easy to fly and easy to get into the air! However... if you like slow flying... I would suggest the Phoenix 2400... much bigger wing area and can definitely slow down more reliably... though at first train for that higher above the ground, just to get a feel for the plane!

    • @edwindeleon
      @edwindeleon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArxangelRC thank u for your input and the quick response. If I purchase it I will use your link to help and support your page! Happy flying!!

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, appreciate it! Best of luck! :)

    • @levedelson1924
      @levedelson1924 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Overall which plane do you think is better?

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on what you want to do! :) Phoenix 2400 is very nice for relaxed flight! The ASW28 is a bit more lively and does require a bit more skill!

  • @nikleiser5888
    @nikleiser5888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Nikola,
    should I review the ASW28 as well ?

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha, well... why not? Another point of view is always welcome! :)

  • @roccocafa7872
    @roccocafa7872 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I hope you can help me understand this problem. I have a glider with a matek f722 wing (INAV) , it is the first time that I try to fly with a stabilization board , currently, doing tests on the bench, everything works, (no errors and I can perfectly arm the engines) I have a solid signal from the gps, ailerons automatically respond to deflection, elevator responds to deflection but the only thing that does not move is the rudder , Is this normal when testing on the ground?
    Please, help me. Thank you very much

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well I have no idea if that is normal for iNav, but it wouldn't affect in flight performance for the most part! For ArduPlane it should move in the stabilised modes, but I have not played with iNav in a long while and cannot tell if it should move! If all else works well, and it is only that, which does not move... I assume it should be like that!

    • @roccocafa7872
      @roccocafa7872 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you so much for replying

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roccocafa7872 You are welcome! :)

  • @dronepilot260rc
    @dronepilot260rc ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I might grab this 🎉

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its a nice plane! :)

  • @markcourtney7251
    @markcourtney7251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Stalling characteristics don’t change when you go into wind or downwind! The model doesn’t know the difference only the pilot on the ground.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well... one direction makes it a lot easier! :P

    • @eVroomer
      @eVroomer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daviddou1408 I meant a lot easier for the pilot as it increases air speed for the model, making it easier to do... whatever! I do know the theory! :) I've had planes going backwards or sitting in one place in stronger winds!

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daviddou1408 There is no way I am getting into one of those!

  • @sotiriospappas3484
    @sotiriospappas3484 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    did it runs fine at 4s? isint the esc 3s max? im using this plane for fpv and have a 4s lion but not sure if it will work.
    thanks

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The ESC is 4S capable.

  • @flyingfarm1
    @flyingfarm1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice flying site.

  • @jxdigital
    @jxdigital 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:00 how is it possible that the clouds shadows move in steps, while the rest of the video is smooth? It must be compression artefact? Interesting phenomena.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, that is an interesting occurrence! They are not moving in steps... were quite fast though, but I have no idea why it looks that way in the video!!

  • @EricLaermans
    @EricLaermans 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice scenery. Where did you record the flying?

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      One location is in the city, the other is about 40kms outside of the city, where we often go to fly at an abandoned airfield!

    • @EricLaermans
      @EricLaermans 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What city and what country?

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EricLaermans Sofia, Bulgaria!

  • @patrickwiggill2962
    @patrickwiggill2962 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very detailed video ,enjoyed it a lot. I would have not used batteries at the end of the plane, looks crappy👍98

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha, indeed it does look crappy... but it was the quick solution to get it in the air without it being too nose heavy!

  • @flighttherapybullisticfpv133
    @flighttherapybullisticfpv133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Omg PLEASE get rid of that stupid pilot doll and replace it with a pan tilt fpv camera hooked up to a head tracker.... soo much fun to be had

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahahaha, I did get rid of the pilot because even without it, it was a pain to balance properly! :)

  • @jxdigital
    @jxdigital 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not a word mentioned on the weird (almost negative!) dihedral? (The v-stand of the wings) That’s totally unrealistic compared to the real thing. The dihedral should be positive. I wonder if it’s possible to bend the main spar? It’s too bad cause I really like this model otherwise.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is there any, really? Could it be that the wings at the tips are just sagging down when the plane is stationary, due to them being so thin out there?

  • @cabecinha69
    @cabecinha69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing plane but I had the same problem at back. no glue also, and pop off at landing

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well... glad it is at landing! :D

  • @DEeMONsworld
    @DEeMONsworld 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hang a heavy cam on the tail... what do you expect? otherwise a good review of the plane

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I expect to see some a nice view in the recording! :)

    • @DEeMONsworld
      @DEeMONsworld 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ArxangelRC I meant thats why you broke your tail off twice.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha, I know! Wouldn't stop me from doing it again though! :P

    • @longrangefpv
      @longrangefpv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Already stripped two servo's, they are not up to the task of a +2m motorglider

  • @sureshbista9401
    @sureshbista9401 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What would be the cost to buy the kit ? I love it.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you follow the links in the video description, you'd get an idea! However... I am not certain if Volantex sell this as a KIT!!

  • @CyberChrist
    @CyberChrist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think they aimed for it to unglue instead of breaking, and I can't fault them for that.

  • @Hiasibua
    @Hiasibua 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol, using more glue also makes a little less nose-heavy.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha, this particular glue dries up very light... so it wouldn't help much in this case! :D

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good afternoon!!! Excellent video, let's move on to the next challenge, thanks for sharing with us ... Best regards ... What's new on my channel? Yesterday, I flew alone my 757-3, it was a flight of pure stress ... Today, I published the video ... you are always welcome !!!

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! That certainly was a long take off... but I don't understand why it was a stressful flight! Seemed to fly quite well... especially if you say it was windy and turbulent! :)

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArxangelRC thank you. In fact, I still do not feel confident flying this project ... the serious initial crash, which destroyed the first model and also caused this second fall, caused by error in the configuration of the radio software, makes me apprehensive if there can be no more failures in the assembly !!! And also the behavior in flight and all the attention with the flight information to avoid any new accident are making me quite nervous while flying ... it is different to fly an aerobatic MX2 or a BIX3 in sight ... this flight is more complex and lack of confidence is not helping me to feel the plane itself ... but I will improve ... this Sunday I already did 2 more flights, always stressed but very concentrated ... let's go step by step ... best regards...

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It takes time and practice, and soon enough it will be calm! Actually crashing is the right way forward to becoming calm with these flights... just have to accept that this could happen sometimes, but with time and experience you will learn how to avoid that as much as possible!

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArxangelRC thank you. Yes, let's go forward... best regards!

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right back at you mate! :)

  • @PunctRu
    @PunctRu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So wha plane Is better: Phoenix 2400 or ASW-28?

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depends what you want to do with it! For FPV and relaxed flying... the Phoenix! The ASW-28 is a bit more aggressive... :)

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

    which one is better? 2400 or asw28??? Better for gliding and the most efficient

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weeeeeell... haven't flown them for long enough to know... but as it stands... the ASW28 has a lot less drag... so it will be more efficient overall... BUT... the Phoenix 2400 has more wing area and I think can thermal better... and can slow down more reliably! ASW28 is a quick glider for sure... less wing area, less drag, higher speed! Really tough to say... both have advantages over the other... and it also depends what the goal is!

    • @adrian-xc2kp
      @adrian-xc2kp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArxangelRC For a FPV Plantform, what would you reccomend? ASW28 or the Phoenix 2400?

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you are going to be mounting the camera on the tail... both should work equally well... though I would still go with the Phoenix 2400... it is just more relaxing to fly!

  • @ror-ys3qp
    @ror-ys3qp ปีที่แล้ว

    does it have hinges for the control surfaces.?

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes!

    • @ror-ys3qp
      @ror-ys3qp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArxangelRC ok thanks but i hear the canopy breaks very easily

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ror-ys3qp Could be, it is quite flimsy!

  • @wbuttry1
    @wbuttry1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i never use a bec i always hook up to the balance port on my lipo when centering servos.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      !? So you plug the servos directly to 16v?

    • @wbuttry1
      @wbuttry1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArxangelRC 12 volt or what ever the battery is

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sooooo... you using high voltage servos? That can work at 12v?

    • @wbuttry1
      @wbuttry1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArxangelRC i have never used a bec period i always thought you hooked up the balance port to the servo tester as it has the prongs

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wbuttry1 Well your servo tester probably has a built in regulator to bring the voltage down to 5v for the servos. Mine does not have that, so I use an external BEC!

  • @pedrofdmp
    @pedrofdmp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guess a vtx on the tail would also help balance

  • @tamastorma5379
    @tamastorma5379 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you buy this plane? I had paid a week ago for Banggood but today they refunded the money because the carrier not shipps to hungary...

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It came from Volantex in China! No idea why they wouldn't be able to ship within Europe... that is super weird!

    • @dennisbeautyparacetamol1490
      @dennisbeautyparacetamol1490 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Buy it @ hobbyking EU warehouse....

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Banggood do have a warehouse in the UK, and I think this plane was available there as well! But yeah... HK might be able to ship too... they surely can ship larger boxes!

    • @tamastorma5379
      @tamastorma5379 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      1 month passed since the first order 3 from the secound... For te 2th time I ordered it to my family member who live in London . It took 2 weeks to dispatch the order ... and 3 days to arrive to door.The Uk warehouse is a total mess. I have very bad taste with the customer support. They provided missleading information.HK is a far better place to shop.I hope my plane arrives on this week in good condition and fies as good as yours :)

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well... I do hope it arrives in a good state! Should fly very well then! :)

  • @Hiasibua
    @Hiasibua 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds like your microphone is clipping a little?

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could be... I can't tell!

  • @amadeuspati6682
    @amadeuspati6682 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this plane have a flaps?

  • @EnglishTurbines
    @EnglishTurbines 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Be better if Volatex didn't glue that Tail assembly at all TBH.....QC and China dont exist. That said, Volantex do have better engineered and designed models than some I can think of.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed! But then it wouldn't be a PNP set... perhaps might loose some of the appeal to some people, although would be better not to have the tail come off in flight!

  • @mandokani
    @mandokani 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What country are you in?

  • @brianevans4
    @brianevans4 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The tail of my Volantex G2 came undone after a crash. Same story. Almost no glue on it. Volantex should take notes and put more glue

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup... will take it up with them!!!

  • @gregkienle3378
    @gregkienle3378 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where are you flying?

    • @jailbreaker010
      @jailbreaker010 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      goo.gl/maps/1Eo8rPEuxdDDFaBe8

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sofia, Bulgaria

  • @jailbreaker010
    @jailbreaker010 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    th-cam.com/video/eHTB8Vlegtg/w-d-xo.html Elevator ?
    Also, what's the glue you mentioned ?

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah... slip of the tongue! Sorry ! :P The glue is some classic universal contact glue. Might be branded as shoe glue too!

  • @hasratmolla5876
    @hasratmolla5876 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which is the best sir...?

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Compared to what?

    • @hasratmolla5876
      @hasratmolla5876 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Phoenix 2400mm vs Asw 2540mm

    • @hasratmolla5876
      @hasratmolla5876 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArxangelRC which the best of those Asw 2540mm vs Phoenix 2400mm

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hasratmolla5876 Well... depends what do you need to do...but I do like the Phoenix 2400 quite a bit... those huge wings provide a lot of lift!

    • @hasratmolla5876
      @hasratmolla5876 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArxangelRC you mean Asw wins..?

  • @elliotw5918
    @elliotw5918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Move the battery, yeah?

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well... have to remove the wheel to be able to push it further back... and that is something I was not willing to do at this time!

    • @elliotw5918
      @elliotw5918 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArxangelRC yeah, that is a good bit of work. Sweet aircraft

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elliotw5918 Indeed!

  • @tomtiny
    @tomtiny 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dont run it that heavy...! Im flying it with a 950mah 3s in the nose and it floats fooooooooreeeeeeeeeeeveeeeeeer.....
    And since it is that light its not underpowered at all and the flighttimes are also waaaay more than enough due to the ease of flying in thermals (I had a 2,5hour flight with 25seconds of motor)

    • @albinhurve5521
      @albinhurve5521 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      hmm? ive pushed my 4s battery as far back as i could to get it to gilde. First it was super nose heavy!

    • @tomtiny
      @tomtiny 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Albin Hurve Well i got a reeeaaaally light battery i there cause i fly my gliders just a touch tailheavy to get maximum performance

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tomtiny I don't know how you get the patience to fly manually for that long!

    • @vjaygroup8759
      @vjaygroup8759 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello, you guys so funny.🤪 Glide foooooorrrrrrreeeeeevvvveeeeerrrrr verrrrrrr....

  • @Worldmountboy
    @Worldmountboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought 2 from your BG link, thanks

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      THANK YOU!!! Much appreciated! :)

    • @Worldmountboy
      @Worldmountboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArxangelRC ok, but still wondering, why after 2 days BG say order still processing ? can you check? Order No: 78414771

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You want me to check your order? I can't do that... I don't have access that such information! Did it ship? Sometimes it does take a while, especially if they don't have them in stock!

    • @Worldmountboy
      @Worldmountboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArxangelRC they cancel my order , dont know why...( I order two times)

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn... perhaps it is just out of stock... and after some time they send an email about it... and give you some options... I think if you do not reply on time, they do a refund and cancel the order.

  • @andrewhotchkiss3466
    @andrewhotchkiss3466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i have this plane, the CG is VERY sensitive. if that runcam falls off in flight you're done.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahahaha... well... it will be nose heavy... that actually is the better HEAVY to be with, than too tail heavy! Will be a quick landing though!

  • @woogieman02
    @woogieman02 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Get a bigger prop and watch the thing sky rocket into the air in 4s!

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I did that on the Phoenix 2400! Does require a lower Kv motor though! And I AM using 4S on these anyway!

  • @clockmakerify
    @clockmakerify ปีที่แล้ว

    Вподобайку, та переглядів каналу.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Much appreciated! :)

  • @itsjustme4026
    @itsjustme4026 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who makes these gliders man? Why do we find none in India 😢

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Volantex make them, they are in China. Actually I think they changed the name of the company in recent years... now its called Exhobby, or something like this.

  • @thomasedmonds6028
    @thomasedmonds6028 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Volantex needs to learn what makes a good glider. They keep missing the mark! Just look at any of the popular high performance gliders: Light weight! Generous wing area. Minimal fuselage (pod and boom) Modern airfoil (AG), Carbon tube spar.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah... they do make changes very slowly... sadly! And actually this model is quite old!

  • @germanstorms2785
    @germanstorms2785 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am in Germany and I can't find this product without 400 Workdays shipping

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well... usually it comes from China for about a month... could be a bit more in the current situation... but could actually be a lot less too!

  • @captlarry-3525
    @captlarry-3525 ปีที่แล้ว

    watch some real soaring vids on this one.. its a real sail plane and what grace ! wouldnt be nose heavy, if you didnt overload it with batts

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't overload it, and it was not nose heavy since I had the battery placed far enough back to mitigate that.

  • @patrickb8286
    @patrickb8286 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    PAS DE TRADUCTION MAIS LES IMAGES PARLE D'ELLE MEME, QU'EL TYPES D'ACCUS UTILISER,

  • @markdevore6
    @markdevore6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm in the U.S. I'm looking for a volantex ASW28-V8 glider, with everything I need to fly it, hopefully I get a phone number which would help me out a lot, thank you.mark.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, I am not certain where in the US you can get one of these locally... so not sure what to advise you! I can see one from Volantex on Amazon... but you'd also need some radio gear and batteries, but I assume you can also find those on amazon too: amzn.to/3c34orL

  • @arminmuller5990
    @arminmuller5990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The model has been sold for years with the same two design flaws, but they are very easy to correct.
    1. Glue 30 g of lead on the end of the fuselage and the vertical stabilizer, which is very easy in the hull without being seen from the outside.
    2. The EWD is improper and needs to be raised to place the stabilizer on the back edge with 0.8 to 1 mm thick paper.
    3. With a 3S 1500 mAh battery or with 2 3S 1500 mAh batteries connected in parallel, it is now possible to fly without changing the center of gravity. The second battery is simply pushed exactly between the wings, focusing on the upper board, which guarantees a minimum flight time of 25 minutes and almost always with a low thermal of at least 35 minutes - do not worry, the battery will not slip during the flight!
    After the correction you will get a superbly flying model that can compete with much more expensive models as it is usually lighter.
    The model is also suitable for easy aerobatics and although the surfaces sag unbelievably, I have not yet managed to destroy it in the air. I'm thinking about making the wings shiny, but this is definitely not necessary and colorful so I can see the model better.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah... well... unless somebody points Volantex, while screaming, at the problem... they have a hard time addressing issues!

    • @ericoschmitt
      @ericoschmitt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ArxangelRC have you tried emailing them?

    • @ericoschmitt
      @ericoschmitt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Armin Müller What do you mean by EWD? I didn’t understand the second part. Do you mean raise the whole vertical stabilizer by 1mm with a spacer? I read someone else mentioning glueing two credit card layers below the vertical stabilizer, is that it?

    • @arminmuller5990
      @arminmuller5990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have already explained this question in detail in Andrew Newton's video.
      th-cam.com/video/o67_x_1a4gY/w-d-xo.html
      Pad only on the rear edge of the elevator!
      You should start with 0.7 to 0.8 mm first - in the end the "correct" setting is also a question of your preferences. After that, the ASW can be flown a little slower without sinking faster. But don't overdo it, the ASW is not a floater.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do talk to them often... doesn't make it any easier! :P

  • @mike_oe
    @mike_oe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't point your finger at me and shout...

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahahahahahahaha

  • @braddixon3338
    @braddixon3338 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    man, give me the phoenix, the wings on this thing are way to flimsy and that tail shake is just bad. I would never take it slope soaring like it is advertised for.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, they are more flexible, I would agree... but they are also thinner, hence why this one is faster... but will need reinforcing if you want to push it!

  • @ericoschmitt
    @ericoschmitt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your video and comments are absolutely great, but they would be some 20% better if you didn’t speak with a too monotone speech dynamics. Seriously, take no offense and have a look at that, you will hook more audience!

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This has been mentioned... will see what I can do...

  • @Jolan9340
    @Jolan9340 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    First again

  • @Calliber84
    @Calliber84 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Take a break from talking

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do... between the videos! :P

  • @josephinebennington7247
    @josephinebennington7247 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    While being informative and useful, please, next time, pause your monologue for effect and maybe even taking a breath?
    Like inserting paragraphs into a piece of text. Like this.
    The present effect is a monotonous conveyor belt of information.

    • @creativeintelligence2100
      @creativeintelligence2100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. In his newer videos he even cut breathes between words to sound like he didnt breath

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I do edit it that way because I really don't like the sound of me breathing in...

  • @npc6817
    @npc6817 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I expected this to be a very fast plane that would stall as soon as I slowed down or shut down the engine"
    What am I supposed to take from a glider review made by someone who doesn't even know what a glider is?

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I am merely saying what is on every beginner's mind! My videos are no only for glider pros mate... chill!

    • @npc6817
      @npc6817 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArxangelRC I'm sorry if I came across stronger than I meant but no offense, if you consider yourself a beginner then maybe you shouldn't be doing reviews in the first place?
      this isn't to try to bully you off of youtube, there's plenty of video formats you could do like vlogs or build logs but if you choose to present yourself as a reviewer people will take it as a given that you must be an authority or at the very least somewhat competent in the field.
      even if that wasn't the case as a reviewer is your responsibility to present the most informed and informative opinion as you can, so you should at least do a bit of research before presenting a product.
      no one is expecting you to become a master of thermals overnight for a video but I don't think expecting a reviewer to understand that _gliders are meant to glide_ is asking too much.
      more experienced hobbyists will just shrug you off as inexperience and go about their day but another beginner might just take you at face value and get into the hobby with flawed knowledge/expectations.
      In this world any role comes with responsibilities attached, i you can't or don't want to shoulder them find some other way to express your passion

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@npc6817 ​ Damn... talk about an unwarranted rant... you certainly take the crown mate! Experience with gliders I have, though not extensive, and with thermaling too, but there is a very specific reason, from my past experience, why I would have that expectation SPECIFICALLY from a Volantex product! I first got into proper FPV with the FPV Raptor, which, when overweight and nose heavy, was absolutely notorious about its spiral of death, which was recoverable, but took some experience to do it, and quite reactions! I've only had one crash from such a spiral, and it was because the battery disconnected in flight, speed dropped... and down it went! All other cases I've been able to recover before it hit the ground! From because of this model I developed a fear of flying slow and dropping throttle, especially when it came to Volantex models, and the ASW with those thin and long wings, who's design hadn't changed since the time of the FPV Raptor... kinda was nudging me again to that trail of though, whether it will stay in the air, or tip stall... hence the mention! Perhaps I should have explained it better in the video, so people would know where I am coming from with that statement... but coming from that point of view... doesn't make the statement any less valid! ALSO... lots of beginners do watch my videos, and I am pretty certain this sort of reasoning could be going through somebody's head, hence why I stall test EVERY new plane I fly, immediately after take off on the maiden flight!!!

    • @npc6817
      @npc6817 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArxangelRC okay then, I made a wrong assumption, I was wrong, I'm sorry. I hope I didn't put you in a bad mood or anything, I'm not good at setting a tone with english so whenever I try to say something more confrontational I always come across more harsh and angry than I actually am.

    • @ArxangelRC
      @ArxangelRC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@npc6817 Haha, don't worry mate, I am not easy to put in a bad mood! And like I said... I should have better explained where I was coming from, in the video, so as to avoid the confusion and make it obvious why I said that! If you go back long enough in my videos... you will find some videos from the FPV Raptor era! Things were a lot more experimental back then! :)