I hear ya! I get the story...this footage is so cool. RIP John. Keith also. Took my family to the Hllywd Bowl concert. 1st Who concert for son & daughter. After the 1st song (Join Together) my boy claimed "Hey these guys r pretty good!" Unfortunately they saw only 1/2 the WHO, which is better than no WHO.
That's absurd. I doubt anyone cared more about JAE than Pete or Roger. The man was stubborn and would not seek or accept help for medical issues, or other ones from what I understand (financial...). In fact, Pete didn't want to tour at all. He was doing it to save John from bankruptcy, and Roger is the person John asked to ask Pete for him. Maybe you could say they are all enablers, as was the case with Moon. Shame is not part of the equation though.
some people won't except they have a problem I didn't except I had a problem because its hard to except and its scary and also embarrassing but it took the advice and now I'm fine it I'd sad but that's life moon tried but failed john was a fantastic base player but he closed his eyes to the problem 😢
What a band. They have been my favorite for forty + years. Zak and Rabbit are two of the finest musicians to supplement the original lineup. John was ill . He had heart problems but decided to live the way he wanted. He is missed . RIP OX.
Yes, he knew he was sick. But he chose to do coke because cocaine is fun. Not everyone lives by logic, those who live the most fulfilling lives are those who balance logic with an irrepressible outlook on following their sense of fun.
John probably knew his heat was damaged by so much cocaine use. He may have at one point been told by doctors. But he avoided doctors and still loved doing cocaine and it eventually killed him.
The Who were my second concert ever...in 1989.Still one of the best bands I've ever seen .I wish I would've been able to see them during the Keith Moon years, but unfortunately I wasn't born until 1969.The Who are Rock' and Roll's Poster Band...I mean that in the most respectful way!
John refused to get help for his heart issues and decided that snorting cocaine and cigarette smoking in his condition was a good idea. He's my all time favorite bass player. I was devestated the day he died, but he made some incredibly stupid decisions. That isn't Townshend's fault.
John was the heartbeat of the who. I met him in West Palm Beach in 2001. Met Zac too! Both were totally cool and personable. God bless John and all the rest of the band.
Anyone who blames Townshend is misinformed. John was the one who wanted The Who to get back together and tour because he had no money. Pete agreed to do it for John because, in his own words, "if it weren't for him I wouldn't even be here."
I love The Rolling Stones, and I love the fabulous classics of The Beatles (so varied and so tuneful, so poignant), but still, for me, by far, the greatest rock 'n roll band that ever was, was The Who. Townshend was and is simply the most poetic writer in rock history. Daltrey had the greatest voice to render those songs written by Pete. As Daltry himself once said, "Pete is the best writer of songs, and I am the only one who can sing them as greatly as they were written." Keith can only best be described in his heyday as having both the motivation and the ability to hit every drum at the same time. But The Ox laid the foundation to it all. RIP John, you were well-loved, and will always be a standard to aspire to. When Entwistle passed away, I admit I cried that day.
To me The Who were the best live rock act period. Their songs are built for it....a lot of them are huge and epic....The dynamic of Won't Get Fooled Again is just incredible live. I have seen them twice... once in 1989 and in 2015 so I got to see John once anyway... I wish i could have seen Keith Moon also. The two bands I would want to see in their prime would have been The Beatles in Hamburg or the Cavern and the Who between 69-76.... Keith Moon and John Entwistle were the most exciting rhythm section ever....
Very possibly as a live band yes... The reason I say this is because once Beatlemania hit they could not hear themselves anymore... Now I'm not saying creative....they just kept growing there til the end....but because of the limitations of the equipment and the screaming girls they just eventually went through the motions of playing live. That is why it was liberating when they stopped touring and they started to work on Sgt Pepper..... I will say this though..I would have liked to see them on the roof top in 69...hell ...I would have been happy to see them anytime... but the Cavern and Hamburg was them when they really jelled and were very raw without as much hoopla surrounding them.
john is probably the only bass player that while he was a total genius- is still underrated by the fact that there isn't a word to describe his proficiency yet. every time i watch a video of him playing im still blown away by the fact that i subconsciously stole so many things from him, and every time i think ive come up with something totally new i go back and watch him and realize that he did all of it first.
His death was a shocker. I'd been a Who fan for over 30 years at the time and my school-aged daughter was one, too. Because of Entwhistle, she became a bass enthusiast and began to learn. She eventually learned to play some of John's stuff. Then they were slated to come to our town in 2002, But, he died a week before that happened. She got to see the Who, but not John. She missed seeing him by one week.
The song “the music must change” is one Roger refuses ever to play again. Moony struggled with its 3/4 time signature and wasn’t on the original recording and then died soon after…..they decided to play the song on this tour but big John died so Roger thinks that bloody song was a jinx!
Same signature as Love Reign O'er Me, his playing in the last few months really deteriorated. I believe send that even during the Who Are You album recording sessions, the difference in his skill between the start and end of the sessions was sad to see
I saw Roger about 1 1/2 years ago and The Who in Feb. His voice was strong and full and very powerful. He may be a better singer than he ever has been. and who has a stomach like that at 67?
I'm very late to the comments here but I was at a Who concert in 82' in Phoenix and I was sad not being able to see Keith Moon. I feel more privileged now for having seen the Ox live shredding on his big base. It seems like not all that long ago but I believe that the ticket was around $40. Now I'm depressed.
I still believe that Tommy tour '89 was the best drumming performance I ever saw live.. and I saw all the best in the 80s. Still go back and watch the LA show on YT every now and then.
I remember an interview where Pete Townshend said they needed to lower the stage volume because of an orchestra and Pete having hearing problems.. So Rodger said we need to tell John to lower his volume. And Pete said we cant. Johns Bass sound is His volume and harmonics.
Actually when Roger initially approached Pete to do the 89 tour due to Roger & John needing money, Pete said the only way he would go on tour was if he could guarantee the decibel level didn’t go over 100db per show. According to Pete,the first thing Roger proposed was having John turn his bass down. Knowing that wouldn’t work (owing to the harmonics), it was then that Pete suggested the brass band to compensate for the loss of volume by turning down the Ox’s bass. Pretty close to your story but this is how it really went down. 🙂. The more you know. js
@@rapman5363 You mean they couldn't turn down the bass (harmonics) so they ADDED a horn section because they turned down the bass? Can't follow that logic, sorry... please explain.
I knew John wanted to go out in the fast lane & he did. On his album "Too Late The Hero" the song "Love Is A Heart Attack" explains he knew what he was doing would kill him on his final night "Love is a pain Love is a heart attack It's so easy to take But so hard to give back The doctor told me this is a showdown You're living too fast You've got to slow down You're heart can't take it You're gonna break it You're not gonna make it Love is a pain Love is a heart attack It's so easy to fall in But so hard to get back The doctor told me, you've got to choose Between living or dying And sex, drugs, and booze Drugs I can handle Booze I can quit But giving up love, I can't take it Death is nature's way of telling you to stop Love, is a heart attack Sex is just the icing on the top Underneath, everything is jet black Set your pacemaker to a boogie beat You gotta dance, love out of your life Set your pacemaker to a boogie beat You gotta dance, love out of your life Set your pacemaker to a boogie beat You gotta dance, love out of your life Set your pacemaker to a boogie beat You gotta dance, dance, dance I've got one more night to live Maybe two, if we can take it slow One more night of love With you, such a nice way to go Love is a pain Love is a heart attack"
SUPERB FOOTAGE, THE WHO SHOULD RELEASE IT WITH OTHER 2000 TOUR PERIOD FOOTAGE. THE OX WAS AMAZING ON THE 2000 TOUR. NO ONE WAS BETTER IN THE ROCK BASS....RIP J.E.
Literally all my life since I can remember liking Rock and roll, I never had the chance to go see the who live. Finally when I was about 55 years old, and about 60 concert throughout my life of some real top International bands, there was a radio announcement on our local classic rock station that said the who was going to add a show in downtown Detroit at the famed Joe Louis Arena. And it happened to be on a Saturday night. So everything was a win-win. Somehow I got tickets in the upper bowl kind of towards the back corner. Yes they seemed a long ways away on the stage. Joe Louis Arena is one of the bigger hockey arenas in the entire United States it holds over 20,000 people for hockey. And then of course there's at least 5,000 or more on the floor of the Arena. But I will tell you that it was so packed that not even the main ticket manager could get me an upgrade to a seat anywhere more closer to the stage. There was absolutely no upgrades available everybody had used them and paid for them and giving them to their friends or whatever. The place was absolutely sold out completely, and all my life I finally still fondly remember everything that I finally got to see one of the greatest rock and roll bands of all time. I would have kicked myself if I didn't get to see Rodger and Pete and his son and some others out there. Detroit was lit up that night
When you see this video, it was evident John was not ready for it, because of his health; he looked older than 57. He was not doing chorus anymore, because his voice was not in good condition and also his ears.. I did read they did record and try a couple of Roger Daltrey penned songs (Certified Rose and a second one).
i saw the " john entwhistle band" play in a small banquet room at the palliser hotel in Calgary. it was great! maybe 800 on hand. i dont remember the exact year. early 80,s saw brian auger there too!
I hate to hear about anyone dying at a young age and John at 57 was to me a young age. I really hate to hear that drugs were involved and John was doing cocaine when he died. This should be a lesson to anyone doing drugs..it can kill you! John should have been around another 20-25 years.
John's the reason I stopped doing coke in 2002 when he died. I'd probably be dead by now. I'm almost 67 in a few months and still in good health. He was the ultimate rock bass player. To this day, I miss him. Too bad he died so young.
Sad about John. That year I had tickets to see the WHO for my 3rd time at Jones Beach NY. That week he died!! Did meet him at Newark Airport. The year escapes me. He was at a lounge table with a woman who had her head on the table sleeping. Actually now that I think of it, I popped the same 'hooker' at a place called the 'Tahiti House' 3rd Ave and 51st. (don't look for it. That was 1981. Long gone) After we had some small talk. Music came up and as a WHO FREAK I mentioned them. She said, " Oh I know them !! one of them was here!!" Who I asked. "The one with the SPIDER !!" I won't reveal her full name but her 1st was Ellen..so she said...~ Carry ON !!~
Look how John was sitting down most of the time while the others were standing up. Seems like he only got up when the camera panned to him. Was he unhealthy during the rehearsals? If he was doing large amounts of coke on top of that, I can see how he died. What a shame.
I often wonder if Zack Starkey really ever understood how lucky he was to be able to play with such iconic rock legends as he was able to do here. Every bassist Ive ever played with (a lot) have all listed John Entwistle as at least the top three influences in their playing development. Maybe being Ringo Stars son has a lot to do with it, i dont know for sure. Simon Phillips was the best most earned replacement for the late great Keith Moon in my opinion. Although, Kenny Jones of the Faces was also a solid player as well.
I think Phillips was too flashy. Starkey feels perfect to me, and has the swing that Moon had, but can keep the tempos wrangled. Love Kenny Jones, but he was a very on top of the beat guy. Perfect for that era of the Who and a monster player in his own right.
Sad! You can tell how weak and ill he was, considering he had a chair waiting for him when he got tired! Funny, how Townshend almost died twice, and seems to be in the best shape of his life here. I was lucky enough to see John, at the Stone Pony in Asbury Park, NJ, in 2000, as well as in concert with The Who! He was really my favorite!
John wasn’t sick. He died in Vegas in bed with a hooker while doing cocaine and had a heart attack. Just because this was near his death doesn’t mean he was sick.
@@polishrocker93 You're wrong. Totally incorrect, because you have no clue what you are farting about out of the side of your mouth. Townshend and Daltrey both admitted that they knew John's body was giving out. They admitted that they knew his body was deteriorating, but John would continue his "rockstar lifestyle", so they just let him live as he pleased. John also, throughout his career, was warned by his doctors as far back as the early 80's that he had developed a heart condition. He tried to curtail his habits, but he always backslid. so there, you have been schooled.
In the months before he died, John's grey appearance was causing people to joke things like, "Didn't I just see you on the cover of Embalmer's Weekly?" During the tour rehearsals Pete mentioned to his brother Simon that he didn't think John was going to make it through the tour, yet they scheduled one anyway. I'm not sure if the band were aware of the severe heart condition John had. His doctor advised against him touring.
He did look drained of colour in his last year or so. Anyone surely could see he was going to croak soon. Wouldn't be surprised if Entwistle didn't really give a fuck, and hence no else did.
I saw this show and they had a memorial to JAE on the big screen. I had no idea john still used drugs and was alcoholic. He couldn't sing backup anymore, he was ill, obviously. Very sad, and i cried that nite.
The evidence of JAE's ill health is here. John has to sit between songs. There's a chair for him to rest. I would've loved to hear "Another Tricky Day" during the 2002 US summer tour with Entwistle playing bass. Yet I understand that Pete, and Roger did these tours for John's financial problems. The blindness from both Pete, and Roger is natural, but Entwistle was in ill-health.
+Von Noosh I have a friend who's over 60 and still plays bass hectically with loud shitty rock bands. He's just about lost all his teeth & still dabbles in snorting that crap.
The Who had the moment of time from the US summer tour of '2000, to the late winter, early spring tour of 2002 in the UK. That was the Who's "Renaissance", as a band that ignored the Kenny Jones era. The Who were a four piece with Rabbit on keyboards. It worked, and because of "9/11/01", during this Renaissance period, solidified their stake in Rock history. There's no way the Who get awarded with the Kennedy Honors if not for an post American catastrophe concert performance. Yet why does a bass player with a weak heart snort coke with a Vegas stripper the night he dies? The 2002 US tour would've been as good as the '75'/'76 tour had JAE not been a complete idiot. I agree with your frustration. All of those obscure songs would've been played again. I know this because I was set to buy tickets for the concert in Hershey PA. At the time it really upset me that Pete and Roger played on. That's twice they've left their comrades in the dust.
I heard a story that Pete was asked what it was like being one of the worlds best guitarists. He answered "lm not even the best guitarist in this band" (referring to Entwistle). Anyone know where this is from?
ArousedPeacock That song was the beginning of " Join Together" I wonder if John did not die before that tour if they where going to work in the song " music must change" because in the video above they were messing around with it " That would of been a treat."
Roger still had some power and range in his voice at this time. You watch concert footage from the last couple of years, he sounds like he's struggling to sing even low notes. It's a shame.
@@sralyn didn't know that, thanks. I guess he learned to sing differently though, I love the way he sings on the most recent album and I'd go see them again in England next March if it wasn't for the pandemic
Well, there surely is nobody playing the bass like John Entwistle. But that was the case with John Entwistle himself too after the reunions from the 90s on. His change of trademark treble sounds with the Fender and Alembic Bass guitars to the dull Warwick sound made things worse. Pino Palladino was a great Bass innovator in the 80s. But his latest live sound reminds me of the late John Entwistle's: Dull, with no edge. John Entwistle was an unsurpassed innovator of electric bass sound. But he lost his edge in that endorsement shit of the commercial reunion aeras. God bless his soul!
An old friend of mine is Steve Bundrick ( Rabbit Bundrick's nephew). I got him mad on day when I said does Rabbit have to play keyboards on every song? The old pre-Who's Next songs had little to no keyboards. It really makes those songs sound aweful with keyboards.
@st0ner65 I heard about it on the radio the day it happened, I was on the back porch relaxing, and on the news I heard "Won't Get fooled Again" (opening part), then info about John's death. It really was sad to hear. (try not to get offended here:) There's no "h" in Entwistle's name. Keith Moon's death was a mortal wound, Entwistle just finished it off. But I comment Pete and Roger for carrying on.
@@endokrin7897 ~ Computer's system probably did that, as I am a picky speller. Probably since it is such an old post, it won't let me correct it, but I have made another comment about it, which I forgot I made.
Seems to me John Entwistle tended to get the least amount of video exposure of the group and this one is no exception. Most of the traditional video coverage was of Pete and Roger, and occasionally Keith Moon/Kenny Jones. Although I enjoyed all of them, after seeing The Who twice (with Moon during the original Quadrophenia tour and once later with Jones) I believe John was the best pure musician of the group. He preferred to leave the showmanship to the others and just be the guy that provided that steady signature rhythm" we all loved. I also had the opportunity to see him with his own band in a small local venue and it was unforgettable. We miss you Ox!
@st0ner65 Totally agree bro...John's lines were like Bach. It's painful to hear anyone else with Roger & Pete. Please check out my Ox tribute channel...he inspired me to get all four of my fingers in the act...Long Live The OX!
I'd sooner watch The Who rehearse than most other bands in concert.
Damn Right You Are my Friend!!!!!!!
I hear ya! I get the story...this footage is so cool. RIP John. Keith also. Took my family to the Hllywd Bowl concert. 1st Who concert for son & daughter. After the 1st song (Join Together) my boy claimed "Hey these guys r pretty good!" Unfortunately they saw only 1/2 the WHO, which is better than no WHO.
Amen to that
Look at pete, he's just like in a concert, with the same energy! Love the who!!
That's absurd. I doubt anyone cared more about JAE than Pete or Roger. The man was stubborn and would not seek or accept help for medical issues, or other ones from what I understand (financial...). In fact, Pete didn't want to tour at all. He was doing it to save John from bankruptcy, and Roger is the person John asked to ask Pete for him. Maybe you could say they are all enablers, as was the case with Moon. Shame is not part of the equation though.
some people won't except they have a problem I didn't except I had a problem because its hard to except and its scary and also embarrassing but it took the advice and now I'm fine it I'd sad but that's life moon tried but failed john was a fantastic base player but he closed his eyes to the problem 😢
Pete has spoken badly about John publicly. " All John cares about is a toot up his nose and a hooker on his nub" Pete's a bit of a dick.
What a band. They have been my favorite for forty + years. Zak and Rabbit are two of the finest musicians to supplement the original lineup. John was ill . He had heart problems but decided to live the way he wanted. He is missed . RIP OX.
Right. Cocaine will destroy your heart and will cause heart attacks.
He knew he was sick?
Roger was lead guitar before I became the singer
Yes, he knew he was sick. But he chose to do coke because cocaine is fun. Not everyone lives by logic, those who live the most fulfilling lives are those who balance logic with an irrepressible outlook on following their sense of fun.
John probably knew his heat was damaged by so much cocaine use. He may have at one point been told by doctors. But he avoided doctors and still loved doing cocaine and it eventually killed him.
The Who were my second concert ever...in 1989.Still one of the best bands I've ever seen .I wish I would've been able to see them during the Keith Moon years, but unfortunately I wasn't born until 1969.The Who are Rock' and Roll's Poster Band...I mean that in the most respectful way!
John refused to get help for his heart issues and decided that snorting cocaine and cigarette smoking in his condition was a good idea. He's my all time favorite bass player. I was devestated the day he died, but he made some incredibly stupid decisions. That isn't Townshend's fault.
It was the sausages for breakfast everyday that really did it though.
So right, cocaine isn’t good even with a great working heart,now take a 57 year old with a known problem with his ticker and you are tempting fate.
John was the heartbeat of the who. I met him in West Palm Beach in 2001. Met Zac too! Both were totally cool and personable. God bless John and all the rest of the band.
Anyone who blames Townshend is misinformed. John was the one who wanted The Who to get back together and tour because he had no money. Pete agreed to do it for John because, in his own words, "if it weren't for him I wouldn't even be here."
I love The Rolling Stones, and I love the fabulous classics of The Beatles (so varied and so tuneful, so poignant), but still, for me, by far, the greatest rock 'n roll band that ever was, was The Who. Townshend was and is simply the most poetic writer in rock history. Daltrey had the greatest voice to render those songs written by Pete. As Daltry himself once said, "Pete is the best writer of songs, and I am the only one who can sing them as greatly as they were written." Keith can only best be described in his heyday as having both the motivation and the ability to hit every drum at the same time. But The Ox laid the foundation to it all. RIP John, you were well-loved, and will always be a standard to aspire to. When Entwistle passed away, I admit I cried that day.
To me The Who were the best live rock act period. Their songs are built for it....a lot of them are huge and epic....The dynamic of Won't Get Fooled Again is just incredible live. I have seen them twice... once in 1989 and in 2015 so I got to see John once anyway... I wish i could have seen Keith Moon also. The two bands I would want to see in their prime would have been The Beatles in Hamburg or the Cavern and the Who between 69-76.... Keith Moon and John Entwistle were the most exciting rhythm section ever....
badfinger20 - Prime Beatles was Hamburg?
Very possibly as a live band yes... The reason I say this is because once Beatlemania hit they could not hear themselves anymore... Now I'm not saying creative....they just kept growing there til the end....but because of the limitations of the equipment and the screaming girls they just eventually went through the motions of playing live. That is why it was liberating when they stopped touring and they started to work on Sgt Pepper..... I will say this though..I would have liked to see them on the roof top in 69...hell ...I would have been happy to see them anytime... but the Cavern and Hamburg was them when they really jelled and were very raw without as much hoopla surrounding them.
The Ox along with Chris Squire were the inspiration to pick up the bass over 40 years ago. A great man.
Yep, The Who #1 in my book too!
The Ox will live forever through his incredible work which shaped rock n’ roll.
john is probably the only bass player that while he was a total genius- is still underrated by the fact that there isn't a word to describe his proficiency yet.
every time i watch a video of him playing im still blown away by the fact that i subconsciously stole so many things from him, and every time i think ive come up with something totally new i go back and watch him and realize that he did all of it first.
You are totally correct Sir !
His death was a shocker. I'd been a Who fan for over 30 years at the time and my school-aged daughter was one, too. Because of Entwhistle, she became a bass enthusiast and began to learn. She eventually learned to play some of John's stuff. Then they were slated to come to our town in 2002, But, he died a week before that happened. She got to see the Who, but not John. She missed seeing him by one week.
And.... he was the ONLY man, and I mean ONLY man that looked good in bangs. LOL
Tampaterry54 Yes there is a word, it’s Thunderfingers!
It’s sad that it took his death for the critics to recognize and rate him as number 1 as a bass player
The song “the music must change” is one Roger refuses ever to play again. Moony struggled with its 3/4 time signature and wasn’t on the original recording and then died soon after…..they decided to play the song on this tour but big John died so Roger thinks that bloody song was a jinx!
It's in 6/8...
Same signature as Love Reign O'er Me, his playing in the last few months really deteriorated. I believe send that even during the Who Are You album recording sessions, the difference in his skill between the start and end of the sessions was sad to see
I saw Roger about 1 1/2 years ago and The Who in Feb. His voice was strong and full and very powerful. He may be a better singer than he ever has been. and who has a stomach like that at 67?
So BOOtiful
He must work out! 😂😂
I really like the "join together" riff right at the start. Very cool!
Pete explains John's bad conditions during these rehearsals. Notice him sitting at times. During an Ox Tale.
R.I.P. to The Ox! John, you robbed us of your incredible talent much too early!
I'm very late to the comments here but I was at a Who concert in 82' in Phoenix and I was sad not being able to see Keith Moon. I feel more privileged now for having seen the Ox live shredding on his big base. It seems like not all that long ago but I believe that the ticket was around $40. Now I'm depressed.
Thunder fingers. No one comes close👍
I saw them with Simon Phillips and it was like seeing a sober Moon after 20 years in music school. AMAZING.
I still believe that Tommy tour '89 was the best drumming performance I ever saw live.. and I saw all the best in the 80s. Still go back and watch the LA show on YT every now and then.
Simon is a Monster
I remember an interview where Pete Townshend said they needed to lower the stage volume because of an orchestra and Pete having hearing problems.. So Rodger said we need to tell John to lower his volume. And Pete said we cant. Johns Bass sound is His volume and harmonics.
Entwhistle actually turned off amps/volume and Daltry was still telling John 2 "turn it down".
Actually when Roger initially approached Pete to do the 89 tour due to Roger & John needing money, Pete said the only way he would go on tour was if he could guarantee the decibel level didn’t go over 100db per show. According to Pete,the first thing Roger proposed was having John turn his bass down.
Knowing that wouldn’t work (owing to the harmonics), it was then that Pete suggested the brass band to compensate for the loss of volume by turning down the Ox’s bass. Pretty close to your story but this is how it really went down. 🙂. The more you know. js
@@rapman5363 You mean they couldn't turn down the bass (harmonics) so they ADDED a horn section because they turned down the bass? Can't follow that logic, sorry... please explain.
Greatest band of all time!
I knew John wanted to go out in the fast lane & he did. On his album "Too Late The Hero" the song "Love Is A Heart Attack" explains he knew what he was doing would kill him on his final night
"Love is a pain
Love is a heart attack
It's so easy to take
But so hard to give back
The doctor told me this is a showdown
You're living too fast
You've got to slow down
You're heart can't take it
You're gonna break it
You're not gonna make it
Love is a pain
Love is a heart attack
It's so easy to fall in
But so hard to get back
The doctor told me, you've got to choose
Between living or dying
And sex, drugs, and booze
Drugs I can handle
Booze I can quit
But giving up love, I can't take it
Death is nature's way of telling you to stop
Love, is a heart attack
Sex is just the icing on the top
Underneath, everything is jet black
Set your pacemaker to a boogie beat
You gotta dance, love out of your life
Set your pacemaker to a boogie beat
You gotta dance, love out of your life
Set your pacemaker to a boogie beat
You gotta dance, love out of your life
Set your pacemaker to a boogie beat
You gotta dance, dance, dance
I've got one more night to live
Maybe two, if we can take it slow
One more night of love
With you, such a nice way to go
Love is a pain
Love is a heart attack"
SUPERB FOOTAGE, THE WHO SHOULD RELEASE IT WITH OTHER 2000 TOUR PERIOD FOOTAGE. THE OX WAS AMAZING ON THE 2000 TOUR. NO ONE WAS BETTER IN THE ROCK BASS....RIP J.E.
It a shame that the Ox's name is wrongly spelt by so many. It is Entwistle.
Entwistle no H, Townshend with H, easy!
The first ever time I saw The Who was the infamous & sad Hollywood Bowl concert not long after this ;-(
what an honour to be there for that.
Literally all my life since I can remember liking Rock and roll, I never had the chance to go see the who live. Finally when I was about 55 years old, and about 60 concert throughout my life of some real top International bands, there was a radio announcement on our local classic rock station that said the who was going to add a show in downtown Detroit at the famed Joe Louis Arena. And it happened to be on a Saturday night. So everything was a win-win. Somehow I got tickets in the upper bowl kind of towards the back corner. Yes they seemed a long ways away on the stage. Joe Louis Arena is one of the bigger hockey arenas in the entire United States it holds over 20,000 people for hockey. And then of course there's at least 5,000 or more on the floor of the Arena.
But I will tell you that it was so packed that not even the main ticket manager could get me an upgrade to a seat anywhere more closer to the stage. There was absolutely no upgrades available everybody had used them and paid for them and giving them to their friends or whatever. The place was absolutely sold out completely, and all my life I finally still fondly remember everything that I finally got to see one of the greatest rock and roll bands of all time. I would have kicked myself if I didn't get to see Rodger and Pete and his son and some others out there. Detroit was lit up that night
I had tickets to see them at the Verizon Amphitheater in Irvine, Calif, but John died two days earlier in Vegas.
Wow... thanks very much for posting...
Entwisle is a human metronome tempo master
When you see this video, it was evident John was not ready for it, because of his health; he looked older than 57. He was not doing chorus anymore, because his voice was not in good condition and also his ears.. I did read they did record and try a couple of Roger Daltrey penned songs (Certified Rose and a second one).
When I met John and Zak n 2001 John was wearing hearing aids in both ears
It was "Love reign o'er me" I was looking for. Thanks!
i saw the " john entwhistle band" play in a small banquet room at the palliser hotel in Calgary. it was great! maybe 800 on hand. i dont remember the exact year. early 80,s saw brian auger there too!
This is really fantastic stuff
I hate to hear about anyone dying at a young age and John at 57 was to me a young age. I really hate to hear that drugs were involved and John was doing cocaine when he died. This should be a lesson to anyone doing drugs..it can kill you! John should have been around another 20-25 years.
John's the reason I stopped doing coke in 2002 when he died. I'd probably be dead by now. I'm almost 67 in a few months and still in good health. He was the ultimate rock bass player. To this day, I miss him. Too bad he died so young.
The Music Must Change sounds amazing!
They don't even show the OX much...how sad...not three weeks later and he was gone. :(
Sad about John. That year I had tickets to see the WHO for my 3rd time at Jones Beach NY. That week he died!! Did meet him at Newark Airport. The year escapes me. He was at a lounge table with a woman who had her head on the table sleeping. Actually now that I think of it, I popped the same 'hooker' at a place called the 'Tahiti House' 3rd Ave and 51st. (don't look for it. That was 1981. Long gone) After we had some small talk. Music came up and as a WHO FREAK I mentioned them. She said, " Oh I know them !! one of them was here!!" Who I asked. "The one with the SPIDER !!" I won't reveal her full name but her 1st was Ellen..so she said...~ Carry ON !!~
Simon's so cute at the end. Lovely man.
rip - john ........god seems to take the good guys first !
Look how John was sitting down most of the time while the others were standing up. Seems like he only got up when the camera panned to him. Was he unhealthy during the rehearsals? If he was doing large amounts of coke on top of that, I can see how he died. What a shame.
Daltrey even sounds better when not shouting
**sigh**
Yes, Zak is Ringo's son.
I often wonder if Zack Starkey really ever understood how lucky he was to be able to play with such iconic rock legends as he was able to do here. Every bassist Ive ever played with (a lot) have all listed John Entwistle as at least the top three influences in their playing development. Maybe being Ringo Stars son has a lot to do with it, i dont know for sure. Simon Phillips was the best most earned replacement for the late great Keith Moon in my opinion. Although, Kenny Jones of the Faces was also a solid player as well.
I think Phillips was too flashy. Starkey feels perfect to me, and has the swing that Moon had, but can keep the tempos wrangled. Love Kenny Jones, but he was a very on top of the beat guy. Perfect for that era of the Who and a monster player in his own right.
Has anyone seen the whole rehearsal? do they do the mythical lost song "Certified Rose"? Shame, even in rehearsal not enough footage of Ox
Sad! You can tell how weak and ill he was, considering he had a chair waiting for him when he got tired! Funny, how Townshend almost died twice, and seems to be in the best shape of his life here. I was lucky enough to see John, at the Stone Pony in Asbury Park, NJ, in 2000, as well as in concert with The Who! He was really my favorite!
John wasn’t sick. He died in Vegas in bed with a hooker while doing cocaine and had a heart attack. Just because this was near his death doesn’t mean he was sick.
@@polishrocker93 You're wrong. Totally incorrect, because you have no clue what you are farting about out of the side of your mouth. Townshend and Daltrey both admitted that they knew John's body was giving out. They admitted that they knew his body was deteriorating, but John would continue his "rockstar lifestyle", so they just let him live as he pleased. John also, throughout his career, was warned by his doctors as far back as the early 80's that he had developed a heart condition. He tried to curtail his habits, but he always backslid. so there, you have been schooled.
I love them.
R.I.P John
Superb!
Cool stuff!!!
Merci pour cette vidéo, c'est si rare de voir la lumière éclairer John, Bassiste Génial, qui souvent n'est même pas filmé .....
i think that this song love rain over me is an awesome song.
Someone should explain to camera-persons what a bass player is.
In the months before he died, John's grey appearance was causing people to joke things like, "Didn't I just see you on the cover of Embalmer's Weekly?" During the tour rehearsals Pete mentioned to his brother Simon that he didn't think John was going to make it through the tour, yet they scheduled one anyway. I'm not sure if the band were aware of the severe heart condition John had. His doctor advised against him touring.
He did look drained of colour in his last year or so. Anyone surely could see he was going to croak soon. Wouldn't be surprised if Entwistle didn't really give a fuck, and hence no else did.
i had he pleasure of seeing them live
Me too. Foxboro Mass in October 1989
I can't hear Johnny at all until day 2. Maybe theres something up with my speakers.
What a cracking band.
Best bass player ever so loved and missed
I saw this show and they had a memorial to JAE on the big screen. I had no idea john still used drugs and was alcoholic. He couldn't sing backup anymore, he was ill, obviously. Very sad, and i cried that nite.
“Oh how I cried that night” - Roger Pictures of Lily
@@MrJohnlennon007 *hugs*
RIP John
can you upload this version of join together
Good to see The Ox
Of all of the bassists, he is still losted as #1. He is the only one dead in the top 5 atleast.
+Ben C Yep. He was real 'Losted' alright...
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Ronbo710 don’t go away mad , just go away !!!!
Wow: Music Must Change @ 2:20 I may be wrong but have they not played that since 1979?
The evidence of JAE's ill health is here. John has to sit between songs. There's a chair for him to rest. I would've loved to hear "Another Tricky Day" during the 2002 US summer tour with Entwistle playing bass. Yet I understand that Pete, and Roger did these tours for John's financial problems. The blindness from both Pete, and Roger is natural, but Entwistle was in ill-health.
Why do you assume they were blind to John's health problems?
+Kev G. There were traces of 'Cocaine' found in Entwhistles cause of death analysis.
+Von Noosh I have a friend who's over 60 and still plays bass hectically with loud shitty rock bands. He's just about lost all his teeth & still dabbles in snorting that crap.
I remembered John's name spelled without the "h". And JE had an oxygen tank ordered backstage for every show.
The Who had the moment of time from the US summer tour of '2000, to the late winter, early spring tour of 2002 in the UK. That was the Who's "Renaissance", as a band that ignored the Kenny Jones era. The Who were a four piece with Rabbit on keyboards. It worked, and because of "9/11/01", during this Renaissance period, solidified their stake in Rock history. There's no way the Who get awarded with the Kennedy Honors if not for an post American catastrophe concert performance.
Yet why does a bass player with a weak heart snort coke with a Vegas stripper the night he dies? The 2002 US tour would've been as good as the '75'/'76 tour had JAE not been a complete idiot. I agree with your frustration. All of those obscure songs would've been played again. I know this because I was set to buy tickets for the concert in Hershey PA. At the time it really upset me that Pete and Roger played on. That's twice they've left their comrades in the dust.
Wow epic!!!
The cursed music must change:( great song
I miss the big guy.
Sound great
Where the heck did you get this?
Boy do i miss that guy, The Ox.
I heard a story that Pete was asked what it was like being one of the worlds best guitarists. He answered "lm not even the best guitarist in this band" (referring to Entwistle). Anyone know where this is from?
Could anyone tell me the name of the first song they rehearsed ? Pardon my ignorance.
ArousedPeacock That song was the beginning of " Join Together" I wonder if John did not die before that tour if they where going to work in the song " music must change" because in the video above they were messing around with it " That would of been a treat."
zak starkey rocks hard.
Music Must Change? Wow. Too bad it (and John) never made it to the stage.
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Wow. How impressive of you to play 7/8 time. Good luck
7:42 one of the BEST laughs EVER!
Music must change..Damn this is WHO
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Roger still had some power and range in his voice at this time. You watch concert footage from the last couple of years, he sounds like he's struggling to sing even low notes. It's a shame.
he’s got most of his range and ease of singing back after 2012 though, due to some training i suppose. now he’s great again!
@@mick82 He had a precancerous tumor removed from his throat in 2010 or 2011ish.
@@sralyn didn't know that, thanks. I guess he learned to sing differently though, I love the way he sings on the most recent album and I'd go see them again in England next March if it wasn't for the pandemic
You sound like an Oasis fan. They did a lot of complaining about Starkey as well.
I wonder how John was feeling at this point ?
And, regarding your "Jeters Son" reference; all I'll say to that is Jason Bonham is lucky Michael Lee has passed on.
Almost ten years now...
damn daltrey sounds good and raw!
And Whogasmic
I guess John accidentally got into a couple of shots here.
Holy shit!
...Chrome bass drum skins.
Well, there surely is nobody playing the bass like John Entwistle. But that was the case with John Entwistle himself too after the reunions from the 90s on. His change of trademark treble sounds with the Fender and Alembic Bass guitars to the dull Warwick sound made things worse. Pino Palladino was a great Bass innovator in the 80s. But his latest live sound reminds me of the late John Entwistle's: Dull, with no edge. John Entwistle was an unsurpassed innovator of electric bass sound. But he lost his edge in that endorsement shit of the commercial reunion aeras. God bless his soul!
RAIN ON ME IME SHAKING ALL OVER BECAUSE I WONT GET FOOLED AGAIN WITH MY BLUE EYES and my wife is after me
I'm told he is giving bass lessons to salmighty God...
An old friend of mine is Steve Bundrick ( Rabbit Bundrick's nephew). I got him mad on day when I said does Rabbit have to play keyboards on every song? The old pre-Who's Next songs had little to no keyboards. It really makes those songs sound aweful with keyboards.
@st0ner65
I heard about it on the radio the day it happened, I was on the back porch relaxing, and on the news I heard "Won't Get fooled Again" (opening part), then info about John's death. It really was sad to hear.
(try not to get offended here:) There's no "h" in Entwistle's name.
Keith Moon's death was a mortal wound, Entwistle just finished it off. But I comment Pete and Roger for carrying on.
'Try not to get offended here,' but it's "commend" and not "comment"!
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@@endokrin7897 ~ Computer's system probably did that, as I am a picky speller.
Probably since it is such an old post, it won't let me correct it, but I have made another comment about it, which I forgot I made.
@tomthefunky good question
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Seems to me John Entwistle tended to get the least amount of video exposure of the group and this one is no exception. Most of the traditional video coverage was of Pete and Roger, and occasionally Keith Moon/Kenny Jones.
Although I enjoyed all of them, after seeing The Who twice (with Moon during the original Quadrophenia tour and once later with Jones) I believe John was the best pure musician of the group. He preferred to leave the showmanship to the others and just be the guy that provided that steady signature rhythm" we all loved.
I also had the opportunity to see him with his own band in a small local venue and it was unforgettable. We miss you Ox!
Sorry, but there wasn't a single shot of John?
Sad.. I'm sure they probably figured John's biggest days were over.. and didn't even try to film him.. very sad..
@@susanclark6987 I'd be surprised? John never diminished in talent, nor was his death foreseeable. So, sorry, I'm not sure what you meant?
RIP Ox!
@st0ner65 Totally agree bro...John's lines were like Bach. It's painful to hear anyone else with Roger & Pete.
Please check out my Ox tribute channel...he inspired me to get all four of my fingers in the act...Long Live The OX!
You've got band's and imitators magic vs no magic.
Peter directed Rogers image!
A bit more "Amazing Journey" would have been nice.
No one will go on John's side of the band, as he is TOO F'ING LOUD! Ha...
Ringo's son?