The ERS-2H is basically just a retread of the Wolverine 9M, but the main production ERS-2N is distinctively it's own beast and functions more like a Griffin.
Its lame Mechwarrior five has it all wrong... the woverine in that is so pathetic.. it lost its 8 medium laser's.... making it do less damage then a bloody 20 ton Jenner... so lame
@@BigRed40TECH You _really_ should give us german subscribers a heads up. Not that I am of of _those_ guys, god forbid, but, you know, I like to stare at shiny things. And if the consequences are _so_ dire... Thank god, my facial features are still intact, but I am definitely afraid to stare at this Mech for too long now. Which is a shame, because it is shiny indeed. xD EDIT: Maybe this is the true explanation why House Steiner did not want it? You could be onto something here...
The rocket version needs a clock system so it can just sneak into the rear lines and DELETE a commander then Start lasering all the support equipment it can find and TAGing stuff for artillery
@@harleyme3163 you are very mistaken good fellow. TAG is a secondary function of C3 master units, an IS exclusive around during all eras as well as a standalone designator available to both clan/IS during all eras. The IS during the succession wars lacked the missiles to make use of TAG but not the designator equipment itself.
Sounds like they've been playing mechwarrior online. Load enough rockets into a medium, delete an assault mech with one hellacious burst, then spend the rest of the match knowing that the matchmaker doesn't care enough to balance the tonnages to make this tactic actually matter.
_'barfs out a "yes" amount of Rockets'_ This made me laugh so hard. As in 'having to clean my keyboard from coffee'. I really should stop drinking coffee while reading comments.
Also autocorrect did that stupid thing where it repeats the last word typed for no reason so instead of "then", it went "Rockets," What the hell autocorrect
As someone whose only heard whispers and bits of lore regarding the ilclan era seeing the unique designs make me much more interested in collecting the miniatures of the era. All three versions are amazing and while different accomplish the goal of chaos in their own way.
About that, the 3R variant wants to have a word with you. 240 rockets, right in your face, all at once. No, that's not bells and whistles, but it's a very large alpha strike, so large that it might even pose a threat to a dropship, should it get in range.
I decided about a week ago that I wanted to get this premium minis from CGL. Just saw this video and had no idea that the Eris was a newer FWL mech!!! Makes me want it even more as I usually play FWL when running the IS!! Thanks for another awesome video!!
Fun thought. I do wonder if, in the ilClan era (as I haven't been following the lore that well), the Clan still does 1-on-1 duels. Imagine dropping that third variant into one of *those*....
I must say, over the last month, you have become my go-to BattleTech channel. While Tex is good, but too rare, and GDN is consistent but basically wiki audiobook, you are a perfect middle ground. I must ask, what Clan OmniMechs do you have, if any, in the store for videos in the near future?
Ha, glad I subscribed. Never played the tabletop, but those are so interesting, fun and well-presented pieces of hard sci-fi lore, as a fan of hard sci-fi, I simply can't help but to appreciate. Just listened to this while assembling the case of my 3D printer and had a blast.
@@HalIOfFamer Being a measurable fraction instead of an amount so miniscule is itself the impressive part. Your light speed comparison is apt: It's not that you're actually mostly there, it's that the fact that you've made effectively any progress there at all is the outright impressive part.
@@AndrewChumKaser glad we came to understand eachother so. Tho I just did a quick megamek test and 4 of these turned an ares into atmosphere. So they are impressive.
Very cool mech. I can see how having a lance of these running wild in your rear areas with elite pilots who know how to work as a team would be a horrifying prospect.
This is one of those new mechs i barely know anything about. I love the design, in both the Eris and the previous Hell configuration. And the mech's ability to increase damage the closer it gets with both the missile launchers and the snub fits the Goddess of Chaos to a T.
Excellent video! A really unique mech that seems to take a lot from the old LAM concept, and boil it down to its best aspects while ditching the wild impracticality.
The -3R is absolutely beautiful. I did that to an Urbanmech in MWO once and I think there are people out there who still haven't forgiven me. I think I'm starting to prefer the madness of the Dark Ages and Ilclan eras thanks to these videos, thanks to you.
Im so glad to see the eris talked about! So far, ive had a phenomenal amount of fun using the Eris. I personally adjusted the Eris-3R to half the amount of rocket launchers on it, and instead put on a triple strength myomer, sword, er PPC and 2 er small lasers. It makes an incredible sword wielding skirmisher that can consistently generate the 9 heat necessary to use the TSM to its full advantage! It makes the mech a lot scarier up close, and makes an amazing target for the enemy to be scared of, while other skirmishers/strikers clean up shop in the background of the chaos the Eris causes
I absolutely love this thing, especially on a rocky map with lots of clips and places to hide! Can't wait to see what you do for the Juliano and the Carronade !
Love the Eris, it's definitely a great ilClan era reimagination of the classic medium mech Wolverine and (Griffin to an extent). Great premium mech from CGL, I got 4 of them beauties!
Hello Red. The Eris, or at least a couple of its designs, are very well done. I especially like the ERS-2N, and a very slight modification upon it. My modified variant of the 2N, removes the X Pulse Small Lasers in favor of Standard Medium Lasers. Both generate 3 heat per firing and require one ton per laser, and take up one 'slot'. Where it counts though is the X Pulse Small's range of 2/4/5 vs the Medium's 3/6/9. I prefer the added range, since heat, weight, and space are the same. The ERS-3R, however... Reminds me of my old Car Wars days, when I built a vehicle having only a Ram Plate, and around 70 or so Micro Missiles, all linked to a single trigger. In that duel, I pulled a 'bootlegger' turn (sliding 180-degree turn) and fired off all the missiles... the result took well over an hour to work through, since the missiles hit and 'ate' my opponent's vehicle... left side's armor, engine, cockpit, weapons, right side armor, and finally... the remaining missiles struck the arena wall of Armadillo Auto Duel Arena, penetrated, and killed a good portion of the crowds watching the match! I am, normally, all for putting as much advanced tech into a Mech as I can fit, that makes sense for the design. But in the Eris' case, the Small X Pulse Lasers just do not make sense to me, when Standard Medium Lasers have the better range, and the exact same weight, mass, and heat profile. Also, Medium Lasers would be Far, far easier to replace 'in the field' than something has 'high-tech' as small x pulse lasers. And thinking about it, the medium lasers would be less costly as well. I do wish that the Mech had enough spare slots for one additional feature. Half Tons of ammo. The Mech design is fast enough to close with its enemy that a full ton of long range missiles is 'wasted', whereas a ton and a half of SRMs and a half ton of LRMs would be better suited to the 'close and savage' one's opponent tactic. Having that full ton of LRM ammo, though, indicates that one should properly stay out to a longer range, peppering the Enemy with missiles, and then close upon the target. This thought process does not aid the Mech, and, in fact, keeps it out at longer ranges, where large and heavy weapons can reach it. The disparity of the Eris' long range damage potential vs most other Mechs ends up counting in its disfavor. 120 missiles requires 12 'rounds' of combat to empty the ammo bin. If I were an Eris pilot, I would routinely specify only a half filled bin of LRM ammo, allowing me only 6 rounds of fire with that weapon, and leaving an empty bin for any critical hit upon it, and NOT leaving 60 missiles to cause an ammo explosion. Yes, the Mech has CASE II for both torso locations, but why NEED it if you don't need to? Now that I have 'nitpicked' the Eris... Let me say this: Good video. The Mech is 'almost' perfect, as designed, barring the changes I've mentioned above. Keep making videos Red... I enjoy your commentary as you give us the data on such useful and interesting designs.
I want that last varient. It’s all in balls to the walls crazy and I love it! I really hope you do another favorite of mine in the future. The Hollander 1 and 2 Particularly it’s number 2 Lyran made variant.
Huh, neat. I dig it. Do love the heavy PPC variant but i see the weakness in not being quite as zippy. But hey! Still fast enough to get into good firing arcs and laying down PAIN at long range. Panthers and vindicators huzzah!
The Eris follows the classic formula for making a great mech. The first step is to determine what the range of engagement a mech will have and design a weapons package around that. The Eris chose close combat. The next is to give the mech an engine to support their chosen engagement distance. Mechs that have better range need less speed. Mechs designed to brawl need high movement to survive to their engagement distance, and jump jets are especially effective for brawlers for both defense and offence. The third step is making the basic engine heatsinks work as hard as possible. The Eris does a wonderful job of working those 10 double heatsinks. The Eris chose 3 weight saving technologies that have the biggest impact for the crit spaces used. Endo steel is almost a no-brainer, since there are very few times that you'll need the crit space it takes up and it offers a significant weight savings for no real complications. Double Heatsinks are just too bloody efficient not to mount. Most especially when you aren't adding any additional heat sinks other than the 10 that come included in the engine. The XL engine is a bit of a risk since it makes the loss of a torso deadly to the mech, but this is heavily mitigated by the partial wing system allowing the Eris to become an evasive close range fighter with an extreme movement modifier. The one consideration for the era that the Eris was designed in that wasn't included is pulse lasers. As a mech that is expected to constantly use its jump jets, the pilot will have to deal with the +2 modifier against their own accuracy. The bonus to hit for pulse lasers would be a natural counter to that penalty. Considering the Eris' intended engagement distance, mounting large and medium pulse lasers would be an easy fit. While clan versions would be preferred, even inner sphere pulse lasers would be fine.
@@BigRed40TECH While the Eris does have the jump capability to take full advantage of the 3 small x-pulse lasers, I feel that small lasers offer too little advantage. The forced range is dangerous for an avoidance based defense. Devoting enough weight to put in a large pulse instead of the ppc would be worthwhile. Medium pulse is a lot more useable than the smalls, though considering the greater ranges in this era it might not be any different than the small lasers.
@@Chris_Sizemore They are X-Small Pulse Lasers, so they are what? 1 Hex shy of Medium Pulse Lasers, unless you do X pulse? It's not that far off. And it doesn't have the heat to do the latter imo.
@@BigRed40TECH Yeah, the Eris would need clan tech to make medium pulse lasers an upgrade. I was thinking the x-pulse was 1/2/3 range, but 2/4/5 makes it hard to come up with a better alternative. Replacing the snub PPC with a large pulse would be worth sacrificing some of the other weapon systems.
I really hope we get more miniatures for 'mechs made in the latest era. If CGL is willing to lean into it, I think it can really become as popular as they want it to be with the player base, and quality plastic with good rules to back it up would be a great step towards that.
Sounds fun. The 2nd variant seems best for my play style. That is to say, max armor and speed paired with accurate high range weapons at the cost of damage output. This makes for longer battles as the enemy gradually gets picked apart while virtually no meaningful hits come my way. Though one or two 1st variety mechs paired with the 2nd or equivalent can prove devastating if used for spotting then to go in for the kill.
I like the Eris N variant as a flawed skirmisher. It has moderate to slow speed for the Era, but its JJ's are great. It almost cannot use the MML's with SRM ammo unless you want to expose it to the firepower needed to pop a torso and end it. The TMM it generates is great, but it has to use its Jump to get there also penalizing itself in the process. The Heat it generates while jumping is also an impediment to it being more than an annoyance in combat unless it goes full on SRM spam ignoring the SNPPC or uses LRM ammo for harassing enemies at range until it jumps in for a PPC snipe. Solid mech but lacking the flash of other new medium and even Heavy Jumpers of the Era.
I don't play Illclan but now I want one... I mean... my friend is getting the hammerhead because he thinks it looks cool. Maybe I can justify an Eris. Maybe.
The rocket version is about as close to a modern Kamikaze as you can find. Although unlike the historical Kamikaze this one allows for the pilot to return to reload and try it again (should they survive the enemy's retaliation). This is an absolutely fearful instant death machine if it gets behind any mech, no matter the mass or armor of the targeted machine. It is simply an instant delete of even the heaviest assault or super heavy, by a lone medium. Talk about a way to destroy enemy morale.
The ERS-3R is a brilliant design imo. It seems designed with simple math and economics in mind. A relatively cheap for its era 50 ton mech designed to target and destroy far heavier, far more expensive mechs and then run away. Even if it gets destroyed in the process it trades favorably, but with that level of mobility combined with an angel ECM it actually has a pretty good chance of successfully evading pursuit and getting back into friendly cover. It lacks all sustainability so it's completely incapable of winning a fight on its own, but the constant threat of having one of these madmechs dart into your lines in any given skirmish or battle and deleting your heaviest mech on the field is pretty devastating. Especially since that heaviest mech on the field is quite likely to be the center piece of your strategy, not to mention quite possibly your command mech. This is an assassin mech, plain and simple. It targets your leadership, your economics and your morale.
I'm confused why there isn't a variant that switches out the snub nose with a light ppc and a capacitor. Lighter, longer range, similar damage, and frees up two tons for whatever you want.
Step 1. Acquire Eris ERS-3R mech. Step 2. Go to Solaris-7. Step 3. Rake in so much money that you stop making money because nobody's stupid enough to bet against you anymore, they've seen you delete too many opponents in a hail of rocket launcher fire. .... That or Solaris bans the ERS-3R specifically because of its loadout.
Actually rocket version isn't that bad. What you need is a field-resupply mech to carry reloads to it and resupply it, and a mech or two to cover and protect it during reloads given how long that takes in combat. This is the kind of thing I do a lot with security mechs while trying to fight battlemechs. The need to keep them supplied is the key to winning a battle of attrition because battlemechs do not last long in terms of ammo, and if you can wear them down, there's a lot of money to be made.
I made a Commando rocket boat in Rogue tech once nothing but rockets think about 180 would run behind heays and assaults and just watch their back armor melt and they are destroyed
For the 2N, I'm not sure why you would double up on SRM ammo for the MMLs instead of splitting the difference between LRMs and SRMs. The snub PPC's comically long short range, combined with the mech's high mobility, should let the mech open holes for missiles at the 7-9 hex range, where LRMs excel at crit-seeking. Sure, it has the mobility to always be within 3 hexes and rip it with SRMs and the lasers plus the PPC, but SRM and small laser range is a two-way street, and as you point out the 2N's armor isn't particularly special for its era. Counting on being able to always outgun your targets or hit them from behind feels a little optimistic. Mech sounds really fun though.
So it's basically a New tech Wolverine, no wonder he likes it
Not only that, its a free worlds league new tech wolverine!
The ERS-2H is basically just a retread of the Wolverine 9M, but the main production ERS-2N is distinctively it's own beast and functions more like a Griffin.
Its lame Mechwarrior five has it all wrong... the woverine in that is so pathetic.. it lost its 8 medium laser's.... making it do less damage then a bloody 20 ton Jenner... so lame
@@harleyme3163 Since when has any Cannon Wolverine had eight lasers?
@@harleyme3163 Also, the Jenner is 35 tons, not 20 tons.
To quote another battletech video about the 3R. It’s not the mech you need to worry about, it’s the lunatic who finds it appealing.
Love the Eris. Form, function, and that partial wing... yum.
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@@BigRed40TECH You _really_ should give us german subscribers a heads up. Not that I am of of _those_ guys, god forbid, but, you know, I like to stare at shiny things. And if the consequences are _so_ dire... Thank god, my facial features are still intact, but I am definitely afraid to stare at this Mech for too long now. Which is a shame, because it is shiny indeed. xD
EDIT: Maybe this is the true explanation why House Steiner did not want it? You could be onto something here...
*Throws things at 3R model designer
NO MORE BINGING GUNDAM! BAD WEEB! NO WEEB BISCUIT!
I guess you could say the Lyran Commonwealth eventually saw the Eris of their ways.
Trust the Lyrans to fail to see the value of a mech because it doesn't weigh as much as an Atlas. Truly a "big-brained" social general moment.
As a Steiner we have an unwritten rule: if it weighs less than 80 tons we do not want it.
@Godzillafan2100 Of course, the Commando is an honorary 80 ton mech.
If the Commando is an honorary 80-ton Mech then the Wolfhound is an honorary 100-ton Mech.
The rocket version needs a clock system so it can just sneak into the rear lines and DELETE a commander then Start lasering all the support equipment it can find and TAGing stuff for artillery
As a mechjock, i support this tactic. As a Gen-X Veteran very familiar with SE... is Lazering the same thing as making DRMO requests?
ALAKABLAM!!!
Did someone say danger close???
tag is clan tech........
@@harleyme3163 you are very mistaken good fellow. TAG is a secondary function of C3 master units, an IS exclusive around during all eras as well as a standalone designator available to both clan/IS during all eras. The IS during the succession wars lacked the missiles to make use of TAG but not the designator equipment itself.
The 3R is the type of thing that just runs into combat, barfs out a "yes" amount of Rockets, Rockets, just runs away to start tagging things
Sounds like they've been playing mechwarrior online. Load enough rockets into a medium, delete an assault mech with one hellacious burst, then spend the rest of the match knowing that the matchmaker doesn't care enough to balance the tonnages to make this tactic actually matter.
_'barfs out a "yes" amount of Rockets'_ This made me laugh so hard. As in 'having to clean my keyboard from coffee'. I really should stop drinking coffee while reading comments.
*raises hand* So its a SRM Carrier with wings? o.O
@@Furzkampfbomber I mean there's no other way to describe it haha.
It's just "how many Rockets do you want to fire?"
"All of them"
Also autocorrect did that stupid thing where it repeats the last word typed for no reason so instead of "then", it went "Rockets,"
What the hell autocorrect
As someone whose only heard whispers and bits of lore regarding the ilclan era seeing the unique designs make me much more interested in collecting the miniatures of the era.
All three versions are amazing and while different accomplish the goal of chaos in their own way.
Eris is pretty nice to see a new age mech that isn't all bells and whistles... It has stuff but it's not massively pushed...yet it's not bad...
About that, the 3R variant wants to have a word with you. 240 rockets, right in your face, all at once.
No, that's not bells and whistles, but it's a very large alpha strike, so large that it might even pose a threat to a dropship, should it get in range.
I decided about a week ago that I wanted to get this premium minis from CGL. Just saw this video and had no idea that the Eris was a newer FWL mech!!! Makes me want it even more as I usually play FWL when running the IS!! Thanks for another awesome video!!
You don't know terror until that Urbanmech unloads a massive wave of rockets at you.
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Been waiting for inspiration to paint mine. Praying to the big red for the chance
240 rockets, for when you want one target to have a very bad day
Fun thought. I do wonder if, in the ilClan era (as I haven't been following the lore that well), the Clan still does 1-on-1 duels. Imagine dropping that third variant into one of *those*....
I must say, over the last month, you have become my go-to BattleTech channel. While Tex is good, but too rare, and GDN is consistent but basically wiki audiobook, you are a perfect middle ground. I must ask, what Clan OmniMechs do you have, if any, in the store for videos in the near future?
I'll be covering the original 16 soon. :)
@@BigRed40TECH Ooo, nice, great to know!
My God, I'm so excited just from the first seconds of the video!!! MC2 is in my heart forever.
Ha, glad I subscribed. Never played the tabletop, but those are so interesting, fun and well-presented pieces of hard sci-fi lore, as a fan of hard sci-fi, I simply can't help but to appreciate. Just listened to this while assembling the case of my 3D printer and had a blast.
A partial wing? Is this Gundam or Battletech?
I do like it's loadout though. 2H variant looks powerful. Heavy PPC and SSRM6. 🤤
> 240 rockets in a single turn
A level of dakka big enough to be considered dangerously close to "enough."
Eh add an additional 120 and then We call it a Day
By close you mean how 1000km/h is "close" to speed of light? Because then I'd agree.
@@HalIOfFamer Being a measurable fraction instead of an amount so miniscule is itself the impressive part. Your light speed comparison is apt: It's not that you're actually mostly there, it's that the fact that you've made effectively any progress there at all is the outright impressive part.
@@AndrewChumKaser glad we came to understand eachother so.
Tho I just did a quick megamek test and 4 of these turned an ares into atmosphere. So they are impressive.
This is without doubt the best way to spend ones dinnertime.
The 3R version is needed for when you need a pilots ancestors to feel the hurt
Great Analysis once again. Outstanding as always...!
Thanks again!
Very cool mech. I can see how having a lance of these running wild in your rear areas with elite pilots who know how to work as a team would be a horrifying prospect.
This is one of those new mechs i barely know anything about.
I love the design, in both the Eris and the previous Hell configuration.
And the mech's ability to increase damage the closer it gets with both the missile launchers and the snub fits the Goddess of Chaos to a T.
Excellent video! A really unique mech that seems to take a lot from the old LAM concept, and boil it down to its best aspects while ditching the wild impracticality.
I can't wait until the fwl makes an awesome II with a partial wing assembly
It flies, and its awesome. What more could you ask for?
The -3R is absolutely beautiful. I did that to an Urbanmech in MWO once and I think there are people out there who still haven't forgiven me.
I think I'm starting to prefer the madness of the Dark Ages and Ilclan eras thanks to these videos, thanks to you.
DARK AGE FOREVER
It's a player mech made for Solaris.
@@justinhammer3196 frosty!
You do great work in these types of videos Red! Keep it up!
Mechs like this is what tempts to play in the the ilclan era
Im so glad to see the eris talked about! So far, ive had a phenomenal amount of fun using the Eris. I personally adjusted the Eris-3R to half the amount of rocket launchers on it, and instead put on a triple strength myomer, sword, er PPC and 2 er small lasers. It makes an incredible sword wielding skirmisher that can consistently generate the 9 heat necessary to use the TSM to its full advantage! It makes the mech a lot scarier up close, and makes an amazing target for the enemy to be scared of, while other skirmishers/strikers clean up shop in the background of the chaos the Eris causes
It's always nice to see the more uncommon mechs. Good vid. Your mech vids save me a trip to sarna haha
I took one look at the thumbnail and thought, that's a wolverine 2 or something. Turns out I wasn't far off
What an ingenious duelist 'mech.
A mech weighing in at 50 To-
SOLD!
I like the art for it. It looks like a Panther that hit puberty and the gym one summer.
Another good mech for the purple bird. I’m happy!
I absolutely love this thing, especially on a rocky map with lots of clips and places to hide! Can't wait to see what you do for the Juliano and the Carronade !
Love the Eris, it's definitely a great ilClan era reimagination of the classic medium mech Wolverine and (Griffin to an extent). Great premium mech from CGL, I got 4 of them beauties!
So did I. But sadly, they remain unassembled, too busy :(
So glad that I grabbed one of these along with a hammerhead on eBay last week. They'll both be joining the ranks of my mercenaries.
Hello Red.
The Eris, or at least a couple of its designs, are very well done. I especially like the ERS-2N, and a very slight modification upon it. My modified variant of the 2N, removes the X Pulse Small Lasers in favor of Standard Medium Lasers. Both generate 3 heat per firing and require one ton per laser, and take up one 'slot'. Where it counts though is the X Pulse Small's range of 2/4/5 vs the Medium's 3/6/9. I prefer the added range, since heat, weight, and space are the same.
The ERS-3R, however... Reminds me of my old Car Wars days, when I built a vehicle having only a Ram Plate, and around 70 or so Micro Missiles, all linked to a single trigger. In that duel, I pulled a 'bootlegger' turn (sliding 180-degree turn) and fired off all the missiles... the result took well over an hour to work through, since the missiles hit and 'ate' my opponent's vehicle... left side's armor, engine, cockpit, weapons, right side armor, and finally... the remaining missiles struck the arena wall of Armadillo Auto Duel Arena, penetrated, and killed a good portion of the crowds watching the match!
I am, normally, all for putting as much advanced tech into a Mech as I can fit, that makes sense for the design. But in the Eris' case, the Small X Pulse Lasers just do not make sense to me, when Standard Medium Lasers have the better range, and the exact same weight, mass, and heat profile. Also, Medium Lasers would be Far, far easier to replace 'in the field' than something has 'high-tech' as small x pulse lasers. And thinking about it, the medium lasers would be less costly as well.
I do wish that the Mech had enough spare slots for one additional feature. Half Tons of ammo. The Mech design is fast enough to close with its enemy that a full ton of long range missiles is 'wasted', whereas a ton and a half of SRMs and a half ton of LRMs would be better suited to the 'close and savage' one's opponent tactic. Having that full ton of LRM ammo, though, indicates that one should properly stay out to a longer range, peppering the Enemy with missiles, and then close upon the target. This thought process does not aid the Mech, and, in fact, keeps it out at longer ranges, where large and heavy weapons can reach it.
The disparity of the Eris' long range damage potential vs most other Mechs ends up counting in its disfavor. 120 missiles requires 12 'rounds' of combat to empty the ammo bin. If I were an Eris pilot, I would routinely specify only a half filled bin of LRM ammo, allowing me only 6 rounds of fire with that weapon, and leaving an empty bin for any critical hit upon it, and NOT leaving 60 missiles to cause an ammo explosion. Yes, the Mech has CASE II for both torso locations, but why NEED it if you don't need to?
Now that I have 'nitpicked' the Eris... Let me say this: Good video. The Mech is 'almost' perfect, as designed, barring the changes I've mentioned above. Keep making videos Red... I enjoy your commentary as you give us the data on such useful and interesting designs.
That is a nice design, not seen many of the newer era mech, though looks like they have some nice ideas for them!
This looks like a wolverine wanted a tonnage upgrade, and jumped on board the Piranha Games' "Wide as an Awesome" program.
I really like this one. It's one of my favorite ilclan era mechs
That second variant would be a devastating duelist mech
I want that last varient. It’s all in balls to the walls crazy and I love it! I really hope you do another favorite of mine in the future. The Hollander 1 and 2 Particularly it’s number 2 Lyran made variant.
Hollander will probably get done later this year.
Huh, neat. I dig it. Do love the heavy PPC variant but i see the weakness in not being quite as zippy. But hey! Still fast enough to get into good firing arcs and laying down PAIN at long range.
Panthers and vindicators huzzah!
This is beautiful.
Because who wouldnt want to merc their enemies in a hail of missiles?
Lyrans: We don't need scout skirmisher mech we have plenty of Atlases already!
It looks like a Wolverine and Conjurer had a baby.
Neat Mech. Had never heard of it until this video:)
The Eris follows the classic formula for making a great mech. The first step is to determine what the range of engagement a mech will have and design a weapons package around that. The Eris chose close combat. The next is to give the mech an engine to support their chosen engagement distance. Mechs that have better range need less speed. Mechs designed to brawl need high movement to survive to their engagement distance, and jump jets are especially effective for brawlers for both defense and offence. The third step is making the basic engine heatsinks work as hard as possible. The Eris does a wonderful job of working those 10 double heatsinks.
The Eris chose 3 weight saving technologies that have the biggest impact for the crit spaces used. Endo steel is almost a no-brainer, since there are very few times that you'll need the crit space it takes up and it offers a significant weight savings for no real complications. Double Heatsinks are just too bloody efficient not to mount. Most especially when you aren't adding any additional heat sinks other than the 10 that come included in the engine. The XL engine is a bit of a risk since it makes the loss of a torso deadly to the mech, but this is heavily mitigated by the partial wing system allowing the Eris to become an evasive close range fighter with an extreme movement modifier.
The one consideration for the era that the Eris was designed in that wasn't included is pulse lasers. As a mech that is expected to constantly use its jump jets, the pilot will have to deal with the +2 modifier against their own accuracy. The bonus to hit for pulse lasers would be a natural counter to that penalty. Considering the Eris' intended engagement distance, mounting large and medium pulse lasers would be an easy fit. While clan versions would be preferred, even inner sphere pulse lasers would be fine.
It does have Pulse Lasers.
@@BigRed40TECH While the Eris does have the jump capability to take full advantage of the 3 small x-pulse lasers, I feel that small lasers offer too little advantage. The forced range is dangerous for an avoidance based defense. Devoting enough weight to put in a large pulse instead of the ppc would be worthwhile. Medium pulse is a lot more useable than the smalls, though considering the greater ranges in this era it might not be any different than the small lasers.
@@Chris_Sizemore They are X-Small Pulse Lasers, so they are what? 1 Hex shy of Medium Pulse Lasers, unless you do X pulse? It's not that far off. And it doesn't have the heat to do the latter imo.
@@BigRed40TECH Yeah, the Eris would need clan tech to make medium pulse lasers an upgrade. I was thinking the x-pulse was 1/2/3 range, but 2/4/5 makes it hard to come up with a better alternative. Replacing the snub PPC with a large pulse would be worth sacrificing some of the other weapon systems.
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I really hope we get more miniatures for 'mechs made in the latest era. If CGL is willing to lean into it, I think it can really become as popular as they want it to be with the player base, and quality plastic with good rules to back it up would be a great step towards that.
Solid looking mech I'll have to try it out sometime. Rocket version looks like assassin that could one shot dire wolf
Getting massive Tau Riptide Battlesuit vibes from this one lol
Love it - I'll take two companys.
It looks cool, id probably drive it.
*Purrs* The look alone is enoth to sell me to this Mech ^^
Have to try it out myself yet... hope it is as great in battle as it looks.
Good!
Very good!
the eris or "the one they ripped off from gundam" (lol still love the mech)
Something I like about it: The front end looks like a 1980 Trans Am
Something I don't: Goofy little drumsticks for legs.
Sounds fun. The 2nd variant seems best for my play style. That is to say, max armor and speed paired with accurate high range weapons at the cost of damage output. This makes for longer battles as the enemy gradually gets picked apart while virtually no meaningful hits come my way. Though one or two 1st variety mechs paired with the 2nd or equivalent can prove devastating if used for spotting then to go in for the kill.
I like the Eris N variant as a flawed skirmisher. It has moderate to slow speed for the Era, but its JJ's are great. It almost cannot use the MML's with SRM ammo unless you want to expose it to the firepower needed to pop a torso and end it. The TMM it generates is great, but it has to use its Jump to get there also penalizing itself in the process. The Heat it generates while jumping is also an impediment to it being more than an annoyance in combat unless it goes full on SRM spam ignoring the SNPPC or uses LRM ammo for harassing enemies at range until it jumps in for a PPC snipe.
Solid mech but lacking the flash of other new medium and even Heavy Jumpers of the Era.
Mmm, the 3R is certainly a meme I can Motivate!
STRONG MECH FOR STRONG PURPLE BIRD
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Anyone else feels like the Eris looks like it came out of the Super Scope game Battle Clash/Metal Combat?
I don't play Illclan but now I want one... I mean... my friend is getting the hammerhead because he thinks it looks cool. Maybe I can justify an Eris. Maybe.
Link to the model is in the video description :P
@@BigRed40TECH Don't tempt me MORE!
But can it hold itself against a Skinwalker?
We will soon find out!
2H feels like a weird conversion to a beamboi centurion
Eris - Vegeta be like RUHDUHDUHDUHDUHDUHDUHDUH
Where does this mech show up? Is it in one of the 25 ilClan Technical Manuals.
Rec Guide 18
Sure hope CGL gets around to compiling an IlClan TRO eventually...
was expecting ferro from the ERS-2 to be honest
Could you cover the Longbow or Yeoman? Don't see a lot of folks talking about those missile spammers.
Longbow sadly isn't gonna get covered until I hit 3058. :\
The rocket version is about as close to a modern Kamikaze as you can find. Although unlike the historical Kamikaze this one allows for the pilot to return to reload and try it again (should they survive the enemy's retaliation). This is an absolutely fearful instant death machine if it gets behind any mech, no matter the mass or armor of the targeted machine. It is simply an instant delete of even the heaviest assault or super heavy, by a lone medium. Talk about a way to destroy enemy morale.
Purp bird is the purp word.
Could you do (@ least an overview of) NON-military mechs?
One day maybe, but I'm not immediately planning to.
The ERS-3R is a brilliant design imo. It seems designed with simple math and economics in mind. A relatively cheap for its era 50 ton mech designed to target and destroy far heavier, far more expensive mechs and then run away.
Even if it gets destroyed in the process it trades favorably, but with that level of mobility combined with an angel ECM it actually has a pretty good chance of successfully evading pursuit and getting back into friendly cover.
It lacks all sustainability so it's completely incapable of winning a fight on its own, but the constant threat of having one of these madmechs dart into your lines in any given skirmish or battle and deleting your heaviest mech on the field is pretty devastating.
Especially since that heaviest mech on the field is quite likely to be the center piece of your strategy, not to mention quite possibly your command mech.
This is an assassin mech, plain and simple. It targets your leadership, your economics and your morale.
I'm confused why there isn't a variant that switches out the snub nose with a light ppc and a capacitor. Lighter, longer range, similar damage, and frees up two tons for whatever you want.
Looks kinda like a phoenix hawk lam
Step 1. Acquire Eris ERS-3R mech.
Step 2. Go to Solaris-7.
Step 3. Rake in so much money that you stop making money because nobody's stupid enough to bet against you anymore, they've seen you delete too many opponents in a hail of rocket launcher fire.
.... That or Solaris bans the ERS-3R specifically because of its loadout.
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Looks very Tau
Heretic! (When i grow up, ill want to be a comstar inquisitor)
Actually rocket version isn't that bad. What you need is a field-resupply mech to carry reloads to it and resupply it, and a mech or two to cover and protect it during reloads given how long that takes in combat.
This is the kind of thing I do a lot with security mechs while trying to fight battlemechs. The need to keep them supplied is the key to winning a battle of attrition because battlemechs do not last long in terms of ammo, and if you can wear them down, there's a lot of money to be made.
All Hail the Lady of Discord! Nice looking mech!
Does anyone want 240 rockets? O.O
They’re for “The Prettiest”…
240 rockets that's a lot. And there goes the Atlas
"I have a Direwolf!"
"I have 240 Rockets." lol
I made a Commando rocket boat in Rogue tech once nothing but rockets think about 180 would run behind heays and assaults and just watch their back armor melt and they are destroyed
Think I heard discount Dan say hold my beer.
you good!
Partial-wing, huh? LAM's! Their bringing them back!!
Now I'll have to buy me an Eris! 😂
Link is in the description :P
Eris pads her chest
Anyone know if there's STLs available somewhere of this mech?
Lyra's couldn't see it's use because it wasn't 60+ tons
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How does one even fit 240 rocket tubes on a mech
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I just think it looks cool 🙃
I'm a lyran, and I want 4.
Ur government sold it off. XD
C'mon YT, don't lore block me!
For the 2N, I'm not sure why you would double up on SRM ammo for the MMLs instead of splitting the difference between LRMs and SRMs. The snub PPC's comically long short range, combined with the mech's high mobility, should let the mech open holes for missiles at the 7-9 hex range, where LRMs excel at crit-seeking. Sure, it has the mobility to always be within 3 hexes and rip it with SRMs and the lasers plus the PPC, but SRM and small laser range is a two-way street, and as you point out the 2N's armor isn't particularly special for its era. Counting on being able to always outgun your targets or hit them from behind feels a little optimistic. Mech sounds really fun though.
not gonna lie i thought the title said BATTLETECH: THE IRS and taxes are alot scarier than battlemechs