And we haven't even seen footage yet for the naval battles! Or the fort and city battles! Things here look so much more engaging and detailed than I expected and to be honest I'm really quite impressed. Fingers crossed development is progressing nicely and I know there's been a bit of a setback for Early Access Release but again, fingers crossed that gets sorted and we get an announcement soon! Discord Server in the video description by the way if you want to follow along developmental news and speak to like-minded players!
Grand Tactician Civil War is agood game. The graphics are weak, since its a small studio. But it has a real time campaign and real time battle resolutions. It's really fun.
WE NEVER DID! Why does everybody keep saying "oh CA has a monopoly"? They NEVER.DID. Sure, they were the biggest (not even close to first) ones who did the turn based campaign, rts map. But wether it's history, gunpowder, style of game, etc. they NEVER had a stranglehold on the market. Where did this even come from?
I really like the real time campaign map, it makes timing a really important factor, to measure when and where you will meet the enemy and who will be there, trying to get your troops in before theirs for the advantage
The Ultimate General series has been served a PRIME opportunity with recent events. I really hope they don't mess this up and that this game truly becomes a staple of the genre.
Only thing I miss in comparison with total war is the ability to zoom down to ground level. Seeing my soldiers in action was always a big part of the fascination.
The evolution from UG Gettysburg, Civil War, Age of Sail, and now this are all great development milestones on ever improving gameplay or tentatively innovative design choices (Age of Sail landing troops and then fighting land battles after a big naval fight). I am very excited for this.
Love this, I will wishlist and support this immediately. Let's see if this brings in the healthy competition which the TW series desperately needs at this point. Who knows, maybe these series will prove successful enough to replace TW altogether!
Yes he was. The dev indeed the creator of Darthmod. Hope in ten years ahead as far as he still have this passion, that he will be a big dev and make game greater then CA.
So excited for this game. See some cool potential for modding in some alternate campaigns. Maybe some France vs. England Canadian campaigns. Or even adding in some Native American campaigns or auxiliaries. I also hope they put in some naval mechanics from Age of Sail.
I believe that some Native American aspects will be in the game. I also agree that mods would be awesome. French and Indian War, etc. I can only hope for a steam release with a workshop.
@TheManofthecross Yeah, the Seven Years War. I mean, you could contain it to the same map mostly as I believe a good portion of the original map will suffice. Colonial North America. I could be wrong. Either way, I think it would be a fairly easy mod since the French and Native tribes will be included. Just not sure on what level though.
Absolutely love how this game is coming together! I cannot wait to play early access! I have long wished for the ability to have more control over my armies from the larger scale map of traditional total war games. I’m so glad they’ve implemented a system where I can form my lines from the campaign map before zooming in to the real time battle. I’m really hoping after this that Darth tries to tackle the Napoleonic Wars. I feel like this game could be a good test field for a grander scale with the great wars of the Coalition vs Napoleon!
i dont think i can tell you how excited i am for this game and its continuing franchise terminator - so much potential. thanks for the coverage, you're a champ keep it up
Was a TW fan and I can’t wait for this! Hopefully this is successful and this studio can grow and reskin to different eras. I agree though about the cannons , there needs to be impacting graphical improvements.
Wow, this upcoming American Revolution game by UG looks amazing! Great to see that there will be some new historical games to get excited about after all the recent disappoint over CA's Total War "Pharaoh" release and the internal turmoil happening with CA in general. Perhaps the UG series will be the "new" total war of the future. Great review as always, Terminator! :)
After seeing this, it makes me excited already for a UG:CW 2. Take these absolutely chad upgrades and apply them to the first UG:CW would be nuts. Very excited for this game.
I think this game has great potential. They are keeping it simple, which is what most people like. The design is cool and the details seem accurate such as sounds and smoke effects. Looking forward to see more. Thanks for sharing!
When this gets a full-size world map like empire, better city management (buildings), government and revolutions, religions, unrest, country decisions, and a longer timeline and this will be the strategy game killer series for the next decade
This makes me wonder whether Empire TW was supposed to be something like this in the first place in early development. Because you COULD easily create a Napoleonic wars expansion.. Now imagine the ability to ZOOM into battles with this new engine. This would give SERIOUS challenge to total war.
If these guys nail this, with all the issues that have plagued CA recently and the player base begging for a gunpowder game, this could be huge for the Ultimate team.
Love how it looks and feels already. There are other games doing this realtime strategy layer thing now (Grand Tactician: Civil War for one) but at first glance this game makes it look way more intuitive than GT:CW. That last game is quite dense at times.
One thing that I haven't seen replicated and I would like to see somebody try. Is having a command delay based on where your general is placed to simulate runners delivering orders. And this would also incentivize you to keep your general mobile running up and down the line beyond just the morale benefits. Although trying to get an AI to understand that mechanic would be difficult and maybe it won't be as fun to play with as I think...
I like the idea on paper, but would it add more to gameplay? I'm afraid it would just annoy people... on the other hand if we could get decent AI to perform on its own despite orders? maybe... also adding traits to unit commanders which would affect unit performance/behaviour e.g. aggressive -tries to attack most of the time, timid - passive more often than not.... arrogant - ignores orders etc.
The Scourge of War series (both Waterloo and Gettysburg) has an orders delay system delivered by couriers that go between your general and troops. Sadly they’ve taken both games off the market while they make some much needed upgrades, hopefully it comes back a much better game once it’s rereleased. I always had a lot of fun with Armoured Brigade which had a similar delay system.
Played with UG:CW and it was a blast. With this new installment of Ultimate Generals franchise, it feels different like a new and different game. Its not fair to compare this with TW because of the shortcomings and the issues its facing right now but man, you cant. The map got an upgrade and is playable now with new features. The tactical battles have become or feels more alive. And the unit impacts, even though they are 2D models they look and feels realistic. It might be farfetched but the devs might be taking notes and reading their or other games community.
Literally all they need is enhanced and sharper graphics and its an empire 2. The game looks pretty interesting and fun regardless. We need more competition if we want total war to be good again!
WIth Ultimate general a unit that has routed needs time to rebuild its morale if it is sent back right into the fight, it will increase its likely hood of it being shattered. The AI understands this mechanic so it will not send a unit that has routed back into the fray until its morale is decent unless the battle is about to be over or obviously lost.
This genuinely looks good. I've never even been interested in American history, and the small scope of the game also goes to show that the small scope of Pharaoh is far from the biggest issue. For me battles have just stagnated, if not gone downhill, for long enough for me to opt out of the last couple of titles. I'm really glad to see new strategy games coming out though, including this and Last Train Home.
Hopefully releasing very soon. Maybe this week? They are releasing on Xsolla and they're having a few issues apparently. Wish it was on steam but oh well lol.
Somehow the unitcount doesnt fit with the visuals. Like the cav, Washington is supposed to have like 43 Horsemen, but in his unit you can only see like 6? Same with the Cannons, Cav and Cannons have a higher number then actual visuals... I hope they fix this until release.
At the end the british AI should have withdraw. There positions were hopeless, I hope the AI will be less reckless in the final game. I can't wait to play the game.
I doubt that, as much as I want CA to crash and burn, this game has nothing even on empire. The secret source of total war has always been their unit detail, the fact that you can zoom in and see the eyes of the units, making each and every one of the thousands of troops feel like they exist, is just unmatched
@@danielc9967 true true but this game is not yet finished so maybe it will be on par or at least rivaling CA in that aspect, also I personally feel like the battle map looks better than anything CA has. Not to mention so many people are angry at CA that they may leave in mass or at least enough to open their eyes to the fact that they're not the the big cheese anymore when it comes to this type of gameplay.
@@danielc9967this game is finally introducing actual thought into tactical battles again, sure you might not be able to look at useless details as closely but the scale and the visuals of the actual battles more then cover that. Also units in ca games still look like clones most of the time.
Not sure haven't seen much about British gameplay but the website does describe overseas involvement so I imagine you will get reinforcements and funds from across the pond!
Lots to manage in tactical, hope its not too fast paced. Would be nice to delegate command to AI for a small force, given them basic orders and let it roll while you focus on main force manuever
Before labelling it as Total war competition, we should ask if Ceative Assembly even care about existence of competitors at all. Or the genre at all, for that matter. Doesn't seem they even did proper customer surveys for a long time.
Got to say, while everything about this game is amazing and impressive, the battle maps are actually kind of disappointing if they are all like the one depicted. Not bashing the game, I am super excited for it, but the battle maps are much more simplistic and downscaled compared to what we had in Ultimate General Civil War and even Ultimate Admiral Age of Sail. There seems to be less room for maneuvers and objectives.
I am not worried about the AI. UGCW is still the best AI i ever fought in any strategy game. And they even managed to make it dumber or smarter in between brigadier general and legendary. With a better campaign model i would have played UGCW forever
As of yesterday creative assembly is done, Sega is cutting CA staff and canceling many projects already in the works. They became arrogant and its gonna be the end for them soon. I'm happy the Ultimate General games are catching more steam.
I got this on my radar, but in my search for great strategy games with fantastic battles to fill the hole tw has left in me, i found out about warno and bought it, going to try it out tomorrow, but would love a video about these types of games. Wargame, steel division 2, eastern front the great war ect. I think focusing on the positives and actual good releases will help everyone, even ca.
@@wencosaif you look on the bottom right. The campaign map also has the time speed changer. You can slow things down and as well as pause just like at the tactical level. I did that alot during UC civil war when it becomes like 3 corp on the field and yeah can get unwieldy but good feature helps.
And we haven't even seen footage yet for the naval battles! Or the fort and city battles! Things here look so much more engaging and detailed than I expected and to be honest I'm really quite impressed. Fingers crossed development is progressing nicely and I know there's been a bit of a setback for Early Access Release but again, fingers crossed that gets sorted and we get an announcement soon! Discord Server in the video description by the way if you want to follow along developmental news and speak to like-minded players!
If I'm remembering correctly one of the main devs on this game made DarthMod for the total war games.
And once it gets to public release and other things a workshop is needed
We finally dont have to be dependent on CA for gunpowder era warfare games now we can just wait a bit and then this releases
And then for medieval we will have manor lords
Grand Tactician Civil War is agood game. The graphics are weak, since its a small studio. But it has a real time campaign and real time battle resolutions. It's really fun.
WE NEVER DID! Why does everybody keep saying "oh CA has a monopoly"? They NEVER.DID.
Sure, they were the biggest (not even close to first) ones who did the turn based campaign, rts map. But wether it's history, gunpowder, style of game, etc. they NEVER had a stranglehold on the market.
Where did this even come from?
We need a workshop for that
Also we have project renaissance, CA is totally sucksass
I really like the real time campaign map, it makes timing a really important factor, to measure when and where you will meet the enemy and who will be there, trying to get your troops in before theirs for the advantage
I thought UG Civil War would be hard to improve on but this is such an incredible upgrade.
Try out ultimate admirals I liked that game a ton and it seems to be the stepping stone between this game and civil war
Now we need scourge of war te relist Waterloo again
The Ultimate General series has been served a PRIME opportunity with recent events. I really hope they don't mess this up and that this game truly becomes a staple of the genre.
Only thing I miss in comparison with total war is the ability to zoom down to ground level. Seeing my soldiers in action was always a big part of the fascination.
Yeah, I second this. Playing Ult Admiral Age of Sail at the moment and it suffers from the same limitations.
The evolution from UG Gettysburg, Civil War, Age of Sail, and now this are all great development milestones on ever improving gameplay or tentatively innovative design choices (Age of Sail landing troops and then fighting land battles after a big naval fight).
I am very excited for this.
Your forgetting dreadnaughts
Love this, I will wishlist and support this immediately. Let's see if this brings in the healthy competition which the TW series desperately needs at this point.
Who knows, maybe these series will prove successful enough to replace TW altogether!
wouldnt that be ironic, isnt this from the creator of darthmod?
Yes he was. The dev indeed the creator of Darthmod. Hope in ten years ahead as far as he still have this passion, that he will be a big dev and make game greater then CA.
Yes... I just love all of the Darthmods. Made TW games so much more playable up to Shogun 2.@@lcdcstudios
So excited for this game. See some cool potential for modding in some alternate campaigns. Maybe some France vs. England Canadian campaigns. Or even adding in some Native American campaigns or auxiliaries. I also hope they put in some naval mechanics from Age of Sail.
I believe that some Native American aspects will be in the game. I also agree that mods would be awesome. French and Indian War, etc. I can only hope for a steam release with a workshop.
@@JS-bp3upthe seven years war? You need the Europe and India side of it etc.
@TheManofthecross Yeah, the Seven Years War. I mean, you could contain it to the same map mostly as I believe a good portion of the original map will suffice. Colonial North America. I could be wrong. Either way, I think it would be a fairly easy mod since the French and Native tribes will be included. Just not sure on what level though.
if they make the game fully moddable we could get napoleonic wars in europe maybe get the battles leipzig, borodino etc etc
Lets help UG with this project American Revolution!
We have to support historic & strategy game creators like this.
Absolutely love how this game is coming together! I cannot wait to play early access!
I have long wished for the ability to have more control over my armies from the larger scale map of traditional total war games. I’m so glad they’ve implemented a system where I can form my lines from the campaign map before zooming in to the real time battle.
I’m really hoping after this that Darth tries to tackle the Napoleonic Wars. I feel like this game could be a good test field for a grander scale with the great wars of the Coalition vs Napoleon!
There is the wars of the first and second collation with the campaign in Italy and Egypt for example which needs to be tackled etc.
i dont think i can tell you how excited i am for this game and its continuing franchise terminator - so much potential. thanks for the coverage, you're a champ keep it up
Couldn't agree more!
Was a TW fan and I can’t wait for this! Hopefully this is successful and this studio can grow and reskin to different eras. I agree though about the cannons , there needs to be impacting graphical improvements.
Wow, this upcoming American Revolution game by UG looks amazing! Great to see that there will be some new historical games to get excited about after all the recent disappoint over CA's Total War "Pharaoh" release and the internal turmoil happening with CA in general. Perhaps the UG series will be the "new" total war of the future. Great review as always, Terminator! :)
Fun fact: The lead designer of these games is Dartis, the guy responsible for all the Darthmods.
I'm really impressed about the overall look of the battlefield and the smooth animations. Insta Early Access!
this game is amazing look how many units there are ,and real time map deployment awesome
After seeing this, it makes me excited already for a UG:CW 2. Take these absolutely chad upgrades and apply them to the first UG:CW would be nuts. Very excited for this game.
ITS THE TERMONITER !!!!
I think this game has great potential. They are keeping it simple, which is what most people like. The design is cool and the details seem accurate such as sounds and smoke effects. Looking forward to see more. Thanks for sharing!
This is so impressive I wasn't expecting this level of an upgrade from UGCW at all which was a great game where I have hundreds of hours played.
Good old Darth.
I've played the mods for ages and this looks superb.
This is how it's done CA!
When this gets a full-size world map like empire, better city management (buildings), government and revolutions, religions, unrest, country decisions, and a longer timeline and this will be the strategy game killer series for the next decade
the Modding potential is uncalculable
Dragoons look like such a pain to deal with how they keep flanking and coming to your rear
YES! YEEEEEES! Cant appreciate dragoons in empire tw, but with this game, hopefully an army is as dangerous as the player/A.I. is smart!
Tricorn hats off to the UG Dev Team. These models look SUPERB. I am Hyped.
"CA's only competitor is Paradox" is on its way to changing.
This makes me wonder whether Empire TW was supposed to be something like this in the first place in early development.
Because you COULD easily create a Napoleonic wars expansion..
Now imagine the ability to ZOOM into battles with this new engine. This would give SERIOUS challenge to total war.
If these guys nail this, with all the issues that have plagued CA recently and the player base begging for a gunpowder game, this could be huge for the Ultimate team.
Love how it looks and feels already. There are other games doing this realtime strategy layer thing now (Grand Tactician: Civil War for one) but at first glance this game makes it look way more intuitive than GT:CW. That last game is quite dense at times.
This looks absolutely amazing!
One thing that I haven't seen replicated and I would like to see somebody try. Is having a command delay based on where your general is placed to simulate runners delivering orders. And this would also incentivize you to keep your general mobile running up and down the line beyond just the morale benefits. Although trying to get an AI to understand that mechanic would be difficult and maybe it won't be as fun to play with as I think...
Graviteam Tactics implements this excellently
I like the idea on paper, but would it add more to gameplay? I'm afraid it would just annoy people... on the other hand if we could get decent AI to perform on its own despite orders? maybe... also adding traits to unit commanders which would affect unit performance/behaviour e.g. aggressive -tries to attack most of the time, timid - passive more often than not.... arrogant - ignores orders etc.
The Scourge of War series (both Waterloo and Gettysburg) has an orders delay system delivered by couriers that go between your general and troops. Sadly they’ve taken both games off the market while they make some much needed upgrades, hopefully it comes back a much better game once it’s rereleased. I always had a lot of fun with Armoured Brigade which had a similar delay system.
Campaign map blow my mind. Can't wait to see it
Played with UG:CW and it was a blast. With this new installment of Ultimate Generals franchise, it feels different like a new and different game. Its not fair to compare this with TW because of the shortcomings and the issues its facing right now but man, you cant. The map got an upgrade and is playable now with new features. The tactical battles have become or feels more alive. And the unit impacts, even though they are 2D models they look and feels realistic.
It might be farfetched but the devs might be taking notes and reading their or other games community.
This looks so good!
So excited!!! I will pre-order. I pray and hope someday will replace TW
As someone not from the USA I'd love if those guys made a mame with this engine in more internationally relevant scenarios, really looks great.
I cannot WAIT to play this. Best time period!!
Literally all they need is enhanced and sharper graphics and its an empire 2. The game looks pretty interesting and fun regardless. We need more competition if we want total war to be good again!
WIth Ultimate general a unit that has routed needs time to rebuild its morale if it is sent back right into the fight, it will increase its likely hood of it being shattered. The AI understands this mechanic so it will not send a unit that has routed back into the fray until its morale is decent unless the battle is about to be over or obviously lost.
This genuinely looks good. I've never even been interested in American history, and the small scope of the game also goes to show that the small scope of Pharaoh is far from the biggest issue. For me battles have just stagnated, if not gone downhill, for long enough for me to opt out of the last couple of titles. I'm really glad to see new strategy games coming out though, including this and Last Train Home.
when I started to prefer autoresolve over battles something went terribly wrong
Hopefully releasing very soon. Maybe this week? They are releasing on Xsolla and they're having a few issues apparently. Wish it was on steam but oh well lol.
What I would give for a game like this with the campaign being a full size map of Europe set in the Napoleonic era.
looks cool, hope they work on the ingame battle AI a bit better.. looks a little bit of a mess
If only there was a Napoleonic Wars version.
That truly looks amazing... can someone send this to CA and show thme how it is done?
The campaign map really reminds me of old AGEOD games
Somehow the unitcount doesnt fit with the visuals. Like the cav, Washington is supposed to have like 43 Horsemen, but in his unit you can only see like 6? Same with the Cannons, Cav and Cannons have a higher number then actual visuals... I hope they fix this until release.
At the end the british AI should have withdraw. There positions were hopeless, I hope the AI will be less reckless in the final game. I can't wait to play the game.
I love UG: Civil War, so this is a no-brainer for me. Now, if they also did a Napoleonic Wars version, I'd be in heaven.
its got a Napoleon total war autumn battlefield in miniature feel
A battlefield with soldiers , not ants. Fortunately, this is not a Total War stuff. It looks gorgeous!
This developer is the guy behind all the total war Darthmods right? If so, its a day one purchase for me
Finally! CA has some competition. Maybe this'll get em outta their slump
I doubt that, as much as I want CA to crash and burn, this game has nothing even on empire. The secret source of total war has always been their unit detail, the fact that you can zoom in and see the eyes of the units, making each and every one of the thousands of troops feel like they exist, is just unmatched
@@danielc9967 true true but this game is not yet finished so maybe it will be on par or at least rivaling CA in that aspect, also I personally feel like the battle map looks better than anything CA has. Not to mention so many people are angry at CA that they may leave in mass or at least enough to open their eyes to the fact that they're not the the big cheese anymore when it comes to this type of gameplay.
@@danielc9967this game is finally introducing actual thought into tactical battles again, sure you might not be able to look at useless details as closely but the scale and the visuals of the actual battles more then cover that. Also units in ca games still look like clones most of the time.
Looks promising for sure!! Competition is always healthy!! For us consumers for sure.. Look at EA's Madden!!! :( tks for the coverage Termi!
Finally some competition for CA
I cannot wait to try this out for myself!
This looks like the direction that I wish Total War had gone in but it went off piste as early as RTW1 in my opinion.
I love that we have another viable total war competitor.
Im super excited right now, the game looks great
Super excited for the game. Looks so good! The discord community has turned out to be a real hoot as well lol
I wonder if this game will combine land and naval battles, kinda like Rome 2
Looks awesome. What i would love is if there are some unique units.
Holy fuk imagine if the developer made a map of Europe set in pike/shot era and real time gameplay
UG: Napoleonic Wars or UG: Frederic The Great!
Would like to see a comparable strategy / operational game on the French Indian Wars 1754-63.
Do the Americans and British play differently on campaign?
Like do the British need to bring over troops from Britain to reinforce them?
Not sure haven't seen much about British gameplay but the website does describe overseas involvement so I imagine you will get reinforcements and funds from across the pond!
Lots to manage in tactical, hope its not too fast paced. Would be nice to delegate command to AI for a small force, given them basic orders and let it roll while you focus on main force manuever
I would like to see a time reduced button next to play one. Like .5, etc. Just to slow it down a bit.
Early acces released today on their website, not on steam though
Will you be covering the Early Access, and if it's better to wait or fine to grab now?
i hear there are some issue with a program called xsolla and thats why the ea is delayed but i hope it fix soon
Before labelling it as Total war competition, we should ask if Ceative Assembly even care about existence of competitors at all. Or the genre at all, for that matter.
Doesn't seem they even did proper customer surveys for a long time.
Got to say, while everything about this game is amazing and impressive, the battle maps are actually kind of disappointing if they are all like the one depicted. Not bashing the game, I am super excited for it, but the battle maps are much more simplistic and downscaled compared to what we had in Ultimate General Civil War and even Ultimate Admiral Age of Sail. There seems to be less room for maneuvers and objectives.
Promising game!
I am not worried about the AI. UGCW is still the best AI i ever fought in any strategy game. And they even managed to make it dumber or smarter in between brigadier general and legendary.
With a better campaign model i would have played UGCW forever
this looks awesome. pure and simple (but: what is Lafayette doing there already in 1775? haha)
imagine if this team had access to CA cash for making a game like empire TW. Damn... glad we had independant team for making good games
They've been working on this game ever since 2018 I think
Imagine if they team up with Paradox
should make a saga title on this war or dlc for a new empire
waiting for Ultimate General: Medieval and Ultimate General: WW1
Why not on steam?
No release date has been announced yet they're waiting on that I think
Isn't he was modder of Darthmod in total war series?
He was yep!
I honestly hope and pray to god they do a Ultimate general napoleon that would be so awesome 👌
As of yesterday creative assembly is done, Sega is cutting CA staff and canceling many projects already in the works. They became arrogant and its gonna be the end for them soon. I'm happy the Ultimate General games are catching more steam.
So the scale of dragoon unit to the infantry is out of whack. It needs to be cut by 2/3rds.
I got this on my radar, but in my search for great strategy games with fantastic battles to fill the hole tw has left in me, i found out about warno and bought it, going to try it out tomorrow, but would love a video about these types of games. Wargame, steel division 2, eastern front the great war ect. I think focusing on the positives and actual good releases will help everyone, even ca.
HA "Even Better is When you Just Ended Resershing for Carcass Shot"(DarthMod EMpire REF.)
is this on steam?
Why cant they get a workshop in steam for this
that game just got released for early access
I hope they add multiplayer to future games
Debating getting Civil War but with this so close I may just wait.
You will like Ultimate General: Civil War. A good example of a Darthmod inspired game.
Feels too fast, too chaotic to prepare as the campaign map is in real time too. I can feel frustration from looking at it, idk.
That's fair lot's of moving parts, but this is just a showcase. Will be interesting to see how often battles actually get played
@@TheTerminatorGaming For sure, going to try it out anyways. Maybe I will like the chaos.
@@wencosaif you look on the bottom right. The campaign map also has the time speed changer. You can slow things down and as well as pause just like at the tactical level.
I did that alot during UC civil war when it becomes like 3 corp on the field and yeah can get unwieldy but good feature helps.
I know this is a stretch, but I'd love to see the devs apply this kind of depth to a 4X Civ type game.
How come I can’t find this game on steam
Not out yet
YOOOO WILL THIS BE MULTIPLAYER???
Not sure it will be on launch. But plans for MP are still up in the air hopefully further down the line
Did they announce the price on it?
Not yet I don't think
Is this game going to be released on steam?
Yep it will be
Unfortunate that we get this only for the American conflicts. The Game looks really good though!
the game looks very promising and interesting... but the studio has a history of dropping post release support after game is deemed "good enough"