No instructions in the box, just random nuts bolts and bits. Just like Sram and Shimano then. Every time I buy their crap I need an internet connection and half an hour to search for the information on their website before finding a DIY installer video on TH-cam to tell me how to do it.
@@cunning-stunt Haha... I did foind it pretty frustrating to be honest... Which made me drag my feet with getting them installed. I didn't want to end up in a position where I had a ride planned and couldn't go because I needed to order fluids or something. But it all came together pretty easy in the end. So there is that...
Great video Phil, I was looking forward to your review. As always an excellent edit mate. I know the noise of the brakes, when I had my SRAM brakes combined with the SwissStop discs I had the same noise. I'm glad you're generally happy and I'm looking forward to seeing the brakes in real life. Thanks for sharing and have a nice weekend. Ride on🤙
Yeah man... Was pleasantly surprised with them. When you slap on a set of "un-known" brakes you're never sure what you're gonna end up with. And these work pretty dang well. So that's a good thing! :D
Noice... They're a really nice budget set. work well and look good. Not too much to complain about with my set to be honest. Been pleasantly surprised... :D
@@TrailTales im waiting for a enduro/fr frame that i bought for 400€, im building a 29" enduro bike, all parts from Aliexpress/Taobao, except zeb fork and float x2 shock, it will be fun 🤣
@@TrailTales The brand is Cooyes or Winbo, the frame model is CY-8 (its not in Aliexpress, only in Taobao and websites from China), its very similar to Canyon Torque, 170mm or 190mm travel with two options in shock (230x65 and 240x76), there you have other options of the same brand or other brand named Fastwork, all hosrt link frames
@@TrailTales Cooyes CY-8, 170-190 rear travel (230x65 and 240x76), this brand doesnt sell in Aliexpress, they only sell in Taobao and on other chinese websites. This brand has other frames for 300-350€ (shipping cost apart) and another brand named Fastwork has many frames very similar to the other brand (Cooyes/Winbo)
@@TrailTalesby the way, have you figured out what kind of olive+barbs these use? I had to cut the hose, so I don't have anymore the parts to search for similar parts. More like shimano or more like hope? Thanks!
@@hsmythi No... I don't know what type of olive and bard they use. My set did come with a spare set though... So cutting it once wouldn't be an issue... Have you tried removing the set that's already in there?
what a nice edit phill!👌🏼👍🏽 The breaks are looking so good!I love the variety of colors. Because I love pimping my bike. 🤣🤣🤣🤷♂🤷♂✌🏻 Super cool video👍🏽
Wondering if you could run a different caliper with them and if it would work better? Also wondering how they are bled as there’s no bleed screw on the caliper only lever 😂?
I'm currently running a set of Hope pads in mine. And they work great with them. They lack that (possibly useless but cool looking) heat sink the stock pads come with, but perforace is good. Mine are due a good bleed, so this is something I'll tackle soon and post a bit of a video about it...
Now that's a ridiculous coincident. Was actually searching the net for a set of used shimano 4 pot brakes in their 6120-9120 lineup and came across those alieexpress brakes. Was wondering if they were worth to give a try. Sounds pleasing actually. Might just try them out as well. How do you like them after 4 months? Someone said, Hope pads work? I use Tech4 E4 and V4 on other bikes, do E4 pads work? Do you they compare to shimano brakes?
I have slotted in some Hope e4 pads before my little trip to the UK and they fit and work fine... But they don't have the "fancy" heat sink fins on them... Which is fine... Affter 4 months now... I'm still happy with them. They could be a bit more powerful... But the modulation is good and that - to me - is more important than boat loads of power.
The noise is probably coming from the pads, respectively the cooling fins on them. The pads that came on my Shimano XT brakes also had these fins and they made the exact same rattling sound. Changed the pads to a set without cooling fins and the noise is gone.
I just ordered a pair of the III Pro E4s boet! For my ebike, cant wait to try them out and bleed them a bit to see what kind of power i get out of them.
@@alexperez4408 I haven't had to bleed mine yet... I'll get to that in a bit though... I was "lucky" with my installation and didn't have any issues connecting the rearrake line up. So I can't really comment on a full bleed yet. Sorry mate.
That's actually my experience also. I do feel like the rear brake has a little more squish than my front. But it's tough to say how much. It might be in my head. But overall I'm pleased. I mean I wouldn't mind having more bite for the skid.
I just wrote a long comment but it didn't post. My back brake is howling abit. Tried replacing and using degreaser, isopropyl and sandpaper on pads and rotors. The front brake is pretty good. For the price they solid but not perfect yet. The brake dials to bring brake lever in and out moves I notice after every ride.
Hahaha... Yeah Scout. The build quality is really nice. The only issue so far has been that adjustment screw niggle. But it was an easy fixand the brakes have performed really well since. I'll see how things roll over the next few months with them and how they perform after a rotor swap. But it's been a pretty good experience with them so far... :D
I also upgraded my Tektro M275 (they suck!) to the IIIpro e4 brakes. I tested them today and they are really powerful and Modulation is fine as well. Overall build quality and performance for price is incredible! Do you know which brake pads fit? I saw the Shimano xtr pads look pretty similar..
No... Unfortuanatels not. I did do a little looking for pads, but came up short. I still need to do a bit more searching. Sorry... And yes. So far I've been leasantly surprised with them. Thabx for watching!
Late response, but for anyone else with the same question: I've heard that shimano m820 pads fit (the ones that they use for saint, zee, slx, xt, etc). Can't confirm just yet but the shape looks to be the same, and that pad seems to be a common choice for random brakes (surron, talaria, random aliexpress brakes, etc.)
@@michaeltorres6109 the pads? I'm on my second set now. So.. 6 months or there abouts... the new set is a set from hope. So we'll see how those get on..
Yeah man... I'm planning on having oyu guys round for beers sometime soon. But I can't let you into the actual house. I'm.... Urrr... Getting it painted... We have to chill in the gardens... Until the police come... Sometimes they come and make me leave my own house. It's really weird. I quite don't understand why... :D
I just pulled the SRAM "clips" off the brakes that came on my bike and swapped them over to the e4's. The fit isn't perfect - by that I mean it's a bit finickety but once the bolt it through, it fits together well. It has done the job well... And I have had no issues ...
Cheers for that mate. Good to know there are serveral options out there... Will make life a lot easier when they need replacing (if they stay on the bike...)...
@@TrailTales I run the brakes on 2 bikes and zero intention to move away. Try combining the calipers with shimano servo-wave levers if you want a very powerful brake with pretty low pull force. I run mine with galfer rotors which seem to work pretty well with the calipers.
I recall looking at these brakes on Aliexpress, from what I can remember the pads are actually a Shimano 2 piston set. Just looked them up, they're listed as using Shimano B01S / B02S / B05S pads.
@@iffy_too4289 i posted the correct pads in the comments. current shimano 4-piston do not fir. you CAN make them fit using a file, but the placement will not be 100% right. hope m4 and xt755 are the same pad, and the pads you need for this caliper.
Cheers mate! That's good to know... I might just pop a pad at some point and head over t the bike shop and see what matches up. It's a good thing is common pads fit.
I have seen these brakes on Aliexpress for a while, I think they do look good indeed. Chinese manufacturers have progressed a lot over the last few years. I think my next set is going to be something like this instead of spending so much on the big brands (and not getting so great results anyway)
Yeah... I was pleasantly surprised with them. Good finish. Quality seems to be right up there... And they work well. They're not the best brakes you'll ever use. But a LOT better than what you'd think...
@@v1ncen715 For sure... I'll track those down before I do a "Long Term" review on these... A couple people have already put in alternatives in the comments. So replacements are out there...
Not yet. But I've swapped a few things up and testing them out. So far though... 4 months in.. still happy with the wah they work... and found replacement pads...
Guys, does anybody know why there are two brake bolts on the caliper that both if removed leak mineral oil? I bled mine, that if you hold the hydraulic cable with caliper dangling I used the furthest bolt for the bleed ..
OK... I haven't had to bleed yet, so not looked into this. But I'll get to that soon enough. But thatnx for the heads up on the bolts. How did your bleed work out??
The front brake is solid, I bled the brake and even better and sharper with resin semi metallic brake. The rear brake the pre fitted hose to the back brake caliper had a very small leak, that was why my brakes kept squeaking. On the caliper there are two bleed screws, I think both need to be bled to get the calipers pushing outwards equally, as I noticed the pistons on the one side push out better than the other..... Find this odd and I may be wrong... But why are there the same bleed ports on caliper both with the same fitting...... Going to give it a go later and refit the hose olive etc and rebleed all screws and bleed ports. Will let you know.
@@dalegreenaway Nice work on the new pads... Might have to give some other pads a go as well... And not sure why there are two ports on the calipers... But I find it odd as well...
@@TrailTales they must be linked, as when I drained the one screw and removed all the oil, no oil came out of the other screw. They have to be connected like all other brands. Refitted the rear hydraulic cable having trimmed it, used a new olive and hose end spike thingie. Cleaned with degreaser and isopropyl and bled, brakes feel solid as before. Hope no more contamination. After front brake bleed yesterday, the front brake is beastly sharp literally locks and you skid lol. Added a new set of pads after cleaning rotors, degreaser and isopropyl and sandpaper.... Let's see! The squeak was bloody annoying. Hope it's gone now.
No instructions in the box, just random nuts bolts and bits. Just like Sram and Shimano then. Every time I buy their crap I need an internet connection and half an hour to search for the information on their website before finding a DIY installer video on TH-cam to tell me how to do it.
Well... I wouldn't say an extortionate amount... And i MUCH prefer these the the GE2's that came with the bike (I just didn't get on with those brakes)... But they aren't as good as the Magura Trail Sports that are just a bit more expensive.
Definitely not the same as the Lewis's. Those are way better constructed than the Onirii. But for the price you pay for it, it's the best you can get, considering the machining and quality it has.
@@ryan.k7256 Thanx for the additions there mate. And yes... The machining quality (at least so far) is really good. They are a slick looking set of brakes...
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Thanx for swinging by folks... Pop a comment. Hit the like. Or Sub up... I'd appreciate it loads... :D
I subbed, I run cheap Chinese parts on my trance x and Jeckyll with no shame... Check my comment for pads...
No instructions in the box, just random nuts bolts and bits.
Just like Sram and Shimano then.
Every time I buy their crap I need an internet connection and half an hour to search for the information on their website before finding a DIY installer video on TH-cam to tell me how to do it.
@@cunning-stunt Haha... I did foind it pretty frustrating to be honest... Which made me drag my feet with getting them installed. I didn't want to end up in a position where I had a ride planned and couldn't go because I needed to order fluids or something. But it all came together pretty easy in the end. So there is that...
Great video Phil, I was looking forward to your review. As always an excellent edit mate. I know the noise of the brakes, when I had my SRAM brakes combined with the SwissStop discs I had the same noise. I'm glad you're generally happy and I'm looking forward to seeing the brakes in real life. Thanks for sharing and have a nice weekend. Ride on🤙
Yeah man... Was pleasantly surprised with them. When you slap on a set of "un-known" brakes you're never sure what you're gonna end up with. And these work pretty dang well. So that's a good thing! :D
Waiting for purple pair, bought it yesterday for 59€ with brakepads replacement as a gift, they look awesome 🤑
Noice... They're a really nice budget set. work well and look good. Not too much to complain about with my set to be honest. Been pleasantly surprised... :D
@@TrailTales im waiting for a enduro/fr frame that i bought for 400€, im building a 29" enduro bike, all parts from Aliexpress/Taobao, except zeb fork and float x2 shock, it will be fun 🤣
@@ermioneslesbiana7367 Eyyy... Sound nice mate... what fame you get?
@@TrailTales The brand is Cooyes or Winbo, the frame model is CY-8 (its not in Aliexpress, only in Taobao and websites from China), its very similar to Canyon Torque, 170mm or 190mm travel with two options in shock (230x65 and 240x76), there you have other options of the same brand or other brand named Fastwork, all hosrt link frames
@@TrailTales Cooyes CY-8, 170-190 rear travel (230x65 and 240x76), this brand doesnt sell in Aliexpress, they only sell in Taobao and on other chinese websites.
This brand has other frames for 300-350€ (shipping cost apart) and another brand named Fastwork has many frames very similar to the other brand (Cooyes/Winbo)
For pads look for ZRACE M1 X4 Brake Pads, they are identical, or for HOPE E4 / M4 pads
Ah noice... Thanx mate!
For anyone who is thinking of buying these brakes: IV4R model is the latest version and does have some good upgrades.
Cheers for the additional info mate! Apprecate it loads...
@@TrailTalesby the way, have you figured out what kind of olive+barbs these use? I had to cut the hose, so I don't have anymore the parts to search for similar parts. More like shimano or more like hope? Thanks!
@@hsmythi No... I don't know what type of olive and bard they use. My set did come with a spare set though... So cutting it once wouldn't be an issue...
Have you tried removing the set that's already in there?
@@TrailTales iv4r bh59
@@ПисКа-т2г Cheers mate.
like the vid bro, your humor is perfectly spot on👍🏻👍🏻
Thanx mate! Really appreciate that... :D
what a nice edit phill!👌🏼👍🏽 The breaks are looking so good!I love the variety of colors. Because I love pimping my bike. 🤣🤣🤣🤷♂🤷♂✌🏻 Super cool video👍🏽
Cheers Dani... People (me included) LOVE pimping their bikes... And their horses... :D
Wondering if you could run a different caliper with them and if it would work better? Also wondering how they are bled as there’s no bleed screw on the caliper only lever 😂?
I'm currently running a set of Hope pads in mine. And they work great with them. They lack that (possibly useless but cool looking) heat sink the stock pads come with, but perforace is good. Mine are due a good bleed, so this is something I'll tackle soon and post a bit of a video about it...
@@TrailTales sounds good mate keen to see it👊🏽 might get a set of hope pads for mine than
Interesting review, the lever looks really good. I like it. 👍
Cheers buddy!! :D
Been liking these... A lot better than I expected!
You can also get them with integrated brake sensors for e-bikes
Good to hear. And thanx for the info... And the support... :D
tell me more? link please? i dont find it.
Awesome video. I like your video approach as well. 👌
Thanx mate... I really appreciate that.
Thanx for watching!! :D
Now that's a ridiculous coincident. Was actually searching the net for a set of used shimano 4 pot brakes in their 6120-9120 lineup and came across those alieexpress brakes. Was wondering if they were worth to give a try. Sounds pleasing actually. Might just try them out as well. How do you like them after 4 months? Someone said, Hope pads work? I use Tech4 E4 and V4 on other bikes, do E4 pads work? Do you they compare to shimano brakes?
I have slotted in some Hope e4 pads before my little trip to the UK and they fit and work fine... But they don't have the "fancy" heat sink fins on them... Which is fine... Affter 4 months now... I'm still happy with them. They could be a bit more powerful... But the modulation is good and that - to me - is more important than boat loads of power.
The noise is probably coming from the pads, respectively the cooling fins on them. The pads that came on my Shimano XT brakes also had these fins and they made the exact same rattling sound. Changed the pads to a set without cooling fins and the noise is gone.
Oh cool... I'll have a look into that mate... Thanx for the tip!! :D
I just ordered a pair of the III Pro E4s boet! For my ebike, cant wait to try them out and bleed them a bit to see what kind of power i get out of them.
Noice... I have been impressedso far. For the price they have been a reqally good set.
Let me know how you get on with them! :D
How are you bleeding them? I'm looking for a video. I only saw a top off video but not a traditional bleed.
@@alexperez4408 I haven't had to bleed mine yet... I'll get to that in a bit though...
I was "lucky" with my installation and didn't have any issues connecting the rearrake line up. So I can't really comment on a full bleed yet. Sorry mate.
That's actually my experience also. I do feel like the rear brake has a little more squish than my front. But it's tough to say how much. It might be in my head. But overall I'm pleased. I mean I wouldn't mind having more bite for the skid.
I just wrote a long comment but it didn't post. My back brake is howling abit. Tried replacing and using degreaser, isopropyl and sandpaper on pads and rotors. The front brake is pretty good. For the price they solid but not perfect yet. The brake dials to bring brake lever in and out moves I notice after every ride.
Yea dude they do look very well made 👌good review, ill take them in little pony red please lol
Hahaha... Yeah Scout. The build quality is really nice. The only issue so far has been that adjustment screw niggle. But it was an easy fixand the brakes have performed really well since. I'll see how things roll over the next few months with them and how they perform after a rotor swap. But it's been a pretty good experience with them so far... :D
I also upgraded my Tektro M275 (they suck!) to the IIIpro e4 brakes. I tested them today and they are really powerful and Modulation is fine as well. Overall build quality and performance for price is incredible! Do you know which brake pads fit? I saw the Shimano xtr pads look pretty similar..
No... Unfortuanatels not. I did do a little looking for pads, but came up short. I still need to do a bit more searching. Sorry...
And yes. So far I've been leasantly surprised with them. Thabx for watching!
Late response, but for anyone else with the same question: I've heard that shimano m820 pads fit (the ones that they use for saint, zee, slx, xt, etc). Can't confirm just yet but the shape looks to be the same, and that pad seems to be a common choice for random brakes (surron, talaria, random aliexpress brakes, etc.)
how about the durability or life span before failure if used regularly on trail?
@@michaeltorres6109 the pads? I'm on my second set now. So.. 6 months or there abouts... the new set is a set from hope. So we'll see how those get on..
Nice Review! And also nice TH-cam Money House 😂😂
Yeah man... I'm planning on having oyu guys round for beers sometime soon. But I can't let you into the actual house. I'm.... Urrr... Getting it painted... We have to chill in the gardens... Until the police come... Sometimes they come and make me leave my own house. It's really weird. I quite don't understand why... :D
Do you know what options we have for mounting shifter and dropper to these levers? Are they sram mmx compatible?
I just pulled the SRAM "clips" off the brakes that came on my bike and swapped them over to the e4's. The fit isn't perfect - by that I mean it's a bit finickety but once the bolt it through, it fits together well. It has done the job well... And I have had no issues ...
pads are xt755 or hope m4
Cheers for that mate. Good to know there are serveral options out there... Will make life a lot easier when they need replacing (if they stay on the bike...)...
@@TrailTales I run the brakes on 2 bikes and zero intention to move away. Try combining the calipers with shimano servo-wave levers if you want a very powerful brake with pretty low pull force.
I run mine with galfer rotors which seem to work pretty well with the calipers.
Yes
@@thomaswayout9081 I recently got the Lewis LH4, they are a bit more powerful but tbh the price difference might not be worth it
I like the lever.. do u think it will be compatible to shimano mt400 caliper?
That I don' know... Sorry mate...
I recall looking at these brakes on Aliexpress, from what I can remember the pads are actually a Shimano 2 piston set.
Just looked them up, they're listed as using Shimano B01S / B02S / B05S pads.
Ah nice... Thanx for that... It'll make getting replacements a lot easier... :D
not correct.
@@thomaswayout9081 thanx for the additional info...
@@thomaswayout9081 what do they use then. Just saying 'not correct' and leaving it there isn't overly helpful
@@iffy_too4289 i posted the correct pads in the comments. current shimano 4-piston do not fir. you CAN make them fit using a file, but the placement will not be 100% right. hope m4 and xt755 are the same pad, and the pads you need for this caliper.
The iiipro E4's set I have for one of my bike use the M755-756 (deore xt) same as hope DH4...
Cheers mate! That's good to know... I might just pop a pad at some point and head over t the bike shop and see what matches up. It's a good thing is common pads fit.
been tempted by those Lewis brakes they are premo though in comparison
Yeah... I've seen those knocking about. They look good... :D
I have seen these brakes on Aliexpress for a while, I think they do look good indeed. Chinese manufacturers have progressed a lot over the last few years. I think my next set is going to be something like this instead of spending so much on the big brands (and not getting so great results anyway)
Yeah... I was pleasantly surprised with them. Good finish. Quality seems to be right up there... And they work well. They're not the best brakes you'll ever use. But a LOT better than what you'd think...
@@TrailTales This is what I expect indeed. My next eBike build will have these or similar, as long as they use standard/easy to find breaking pads.
@@v1ncen715 For sure... I'll track those down before I do a "Long Term" review on these... A couple people have already put in alternatives in the comments. So replacements are out there...
Is there an update report video?
Not yet. But I've swapped a few things up and testing them out. So far though... 4 months in.. still happy with the wah they work... and found replacement pads...
Haha, you moved again! Impressive TH-cam money house! 😁👍
Hahaha... Less stairs to carry my fridge up... Hahaha...
Snail floating rotar is mint
Yeah... They're a pretty cool set of rotors... :D
Guys, does anybody know why there are two brake bolts on the caliper that both if removed leak mineral oil? I bled mine, that if you hold the hydraulic cable with caliper dangling I used the furthest bolt for the bleed ..
OK... I haven't had to bleed yet, so not looked into this. But I'll get to that soon enough. But thatnx for the heads up on the bolts.
How did your bleed work out??
The front brake is solid, I bled the brake and even better and sharper with resin semi metallic brake. The rear brake the pre fitted hose to the back brake caliper had a very small leak, that was why my brakes kept squeaking. On the caliper there are two bleed screws, I think both need to be bled to get the calipers pushing outwards equally, as I noticed the pistons on the one side push out better than the other..... Find this odd and I may be wrong... But why are there the same bleed ports on caliper both with the same fitting...... Going to give it a go later and refit the hose olive etc and rebleed all screws and bleed ports. Will let you know.
@@dalegreenaway Nice work on the new pads... Might have to give some other pads a go as well... And not sure why there are two ports on the calipers... But I find it odd as well...
@@TrailTales they must be linked, as when I drained the one screw and removed all the oil, no oil came out of the other screw. They have to be connected like all other brands. Refitted the rear hydraulic cable having trimmed it, used a new olive and hose end spike thingie. Cleaned with degreaser and isopropyl and bled, brakes feel solid as before. Hope no more contamination. After front brake bleed yesterday, the front brake is beastly sharp literally locks and you skid lol. Added a new set of pads after cleaning rotors, degreaser and isopropyl and sandpaper.... Let's see! The squeak was bloody annoying. Hope it's gone now.
Will shimano pads be compatible?
That I don't know... There are pads available from Aliexpress I am told... But weather Shimanpo will work or not I am not sure...
Fun video! Liked and subscribed.
Cheers mate... Appreciate the support... And thanx for the sub... :D
@@TrailTales
Welcome! All the best
Brakes are awesome. Pads that come with them suck. Replace then with Hope tech evo4 and you will love these. Insanely powerfull.
Ah cheers... I#ll have a look into those evo4's...
Thanx for watching... :D
I some how know the background at the beginning. Cant remember where it was
Schloß Rotenfels... There's a couple of Poke-stops there. That probably why you recognise it... Hahaha
No instructions in the box, just random nuts bolts and bits.
Just like Sram and Shimano then.
Every time I buy their crap I need an internet connection and half an hour to search for the information on their website before finding a DIY installer video on TH-cam to tell me how to do it.
:D
So these are just the Lewis brakes. So they(Lewis( are just shit white label off AliExpress but they charge an extortionate amount for. ?
Well... I wouldn't say an extortionate amount... And i MUCH prefer these the the GE2's that came with the bike (I just didn't get on with those brakes)... But they aren't as good as the Magura Trail Sports that are just a bit more expensive.
Definitely not the same as the Lewis's. Those are way better constructed than the Onirii. But for the price you pay for it, it's the best you can get, considering the machining and quality it has.
@@ryan.k7256 Thanx for the additions there mate. And yes... The machining quality (at least so far) is really good. They are a slick looking set of brakes...
These brakes are 300 dollars on Amazon now. No thanks lol
That is a massive jump in price...
Good review but what did you do in post production to make your video look so... bad? The vibrancy and fake sharpening make it look like 2010 video.
It's just a LUT I run over it... Nothing fancy...
The brakes from Lewis are significantly better than these e4
Cheers for the feedback mate. Appreciate that...
The Lewis LHT brakes are also 5-6 times more expensive than these.....
For a stupid amount of money yes. May as well get Shimano then or Hope
@@dalegreenaway yip... if you gonna spend shimano/hope/sram money. May as well get shimao/hope/sram...
@@TrailTales Lewis are like 200-300 pounds for a pair I believe. These brakes cost 72 all in.... Total bargain 🤪