I think fan art is an important expression of our culture. I drew a portrait of a favorite TH-cam story teller and it was an important transition in my learning curve. Couldn't agree with you more! Love you and your channel.
to me this isn't even a question. Whatever gets you writing or painting or just doing something creative is *VALID*. Who cares what the subject is, especially if you're not selling it.
As someone who has wasted a ton of time trying to be original BEFORE honing my technical skills, great job on this video. THANK YOU. I needed to hear that. I was coming around but the confirmation is helpful.
That was damn good. I’ll be honest. I was really into acting, and music, before my stroke. I was repeatedly told by a few people. "You have to go to New York/Hollywood to be recognized." "There’s no money starting out." Do this. Do that, but don’t do this. Man, naysayers everywhere. Don’t listen to them. No matter who they are. Just do it. No expectations. You want to paint? Do it. You want to act? Do it. Do anything! You will be disappointed, or not cast in a part. That’s life. Don’t stop, and throw in the towel. Keep doing it.
Well done exposing the hypocrisies of calling one thing "fan art" and if it's a "study" of a master it's called something different! Literature is my bag, and there are some graphic novels I put right up there with classics. I love going from Dostoyevsky to Alan Moore and don't feel one is "higher" than another. Also, this format is perfect :) As always, thank you.
@Gurby M: But... there's actually a real difference between 'fan art' and doing a traditional master copy. The purpose of a master copy is _not_ about the end result or even about a true copy. It is about understanding the process and techniques, colour mixing strategy and colour choices. The average 'fan art' drawing, usually related to comics or movies or whatever, is not about investigating or solving those types of problems at all, but just recreating an actor in a certain role you like or like a certain comic hero. Often copied from a movie still or comic book page. I know there are cases where an artist is good enough to create a very high quality realistic painting, that also happens to be fan art. But something like that is pretty much never about researching technique. And just from a technical point of view alone, a Rembrandt painting is leagues above a comic book line drawing or even a movie scene. It's why a single movie frame would never sell for $50M...
I love all of your comments and rational and so agree with encouraging art skills. A person is studying and learning all the time, can sense when something is off. Plus, expressing additional meaning-learning from that. I so agree. (I haven't done fan art but now I want to!👍)
I'm glad to see you are talking on the screen again. That communicates better and I can occasionally look at the painting in progress, without feeling I have to concentrate on two things at once.
Hey! I'm so glad to hear you failed art in high school. My teacher didn't like me either, and I failed too. And now I am an artist. Love love your videos, I'm watching them all.
Fan art is my favourite way of practicing. I see it more like a tribute to the creator of the subject and also I believe having a very well known subject makes it easier for artists to compare styles online and putting artists with similar interests together ❤
This is such a great video especially to those still in the beginning stages of their creative journey. I’ve always thought and argued the point there is so much to be learned from copying everything. We aren’t talking about making a career off copies but for acquiring mileage and making breakthroughs/discoveries why not paint things you love. You’ll do it daily as opposed to sporadically.
thank you thank you thank you. You nailed it in this video. "I'm a tenth grader in high school doing fanart of my favorite movies..." got to me. Whatever gets you to create and build skill, counts.
Oh, I do like THIS video Format - great :O) I think Fanart is a great way to improve your skills, that's the way I started portraits. When I find a character interesting I have to paint him/her. All this people who think they can decide whats art and what isn't killing the freedom and creativity in art. Sure you can't sell fanart for copyright reasons, but there is no crime in doing it for yourself.
Wow I just discovered your channel and I’ve learned so much so far. I’m currently an acrylic painter, but I’ve been wanting to switch to oil for the longest. Unfortunately I got so caught up on trying to be original and stressing about how oils are so difficult that I’ve wasted monthsss of doing nothing. I’m excited to try oils again with a positive mindset and to stop stressing about perfection! Thanks for these videos it really helped me ☺️
If art does not have any rules, then you are free to do whatever you want :) Whether it is fan art or copy from a master, it does not matter i believe. Btw, your videos are such great works, and I love watching them and copying them for practicing xD
Whatever helps you go forward, practice is what’s going to make you a better painter. Your 10th grade teacher should see you now. BTW., today I received my first order of brushes from Rosemary and Co. I was thrilled to get that package. Four beautiful long handled brushes.. I’ll try them out tomorrow. Thanks Chris for all you do. From Tallahassee Florida
I think my drawing skills really improved when years ago I got obsessed with drawing Jensen Ackles' face (from Supernatural) lol. That was a real turning point for me! So team fan art here haha
I'm learning to play guitar right now. How do you learn to play? You learn and try to play the songs that you love to listen to. I didn't write them, but it's the tool that I'm using to develop that practice the skills that maybe later I'll use to write my own material. Copying what you love is how your stay motivated when you reach the post-beginner intermediate plateau.
Fan art is great for a multitude of reasons 1 give your body the muscle memory and the eye hand coordination 2 it improves the personal artistic talent you possess. Those are just two good reasons to do fan art
Fan art is no different to the artists of yesteryear painting known figures of their culture or historical figures in general. How many deaths of Cleopatra are there? If it resonates in you, paint it.
Instructors put it down because so many people are using TH-cam and their natural creativity/talent to go out and create art where some instructors paid thousands of dollars for an art education. I've met a lot of talented artists... some trained... some self taught... whatever motivates and inspires you to draw/paint is fine by me. When you go to sell your work though... make sure it is original artwork is all... Take Will Terry for instance... huge fan of fan art as an illustrator... but he takes movie characters and transforms them into his own style of caricature. That is fine in my opinion...
Really interesting topic Chris! I'd love to hear more about how you deal with selling your fan art. Like your recent Sinatra painting or Johnny Cash. Those are incredible pieces! But did you have to deal with royalties or something in order to sell those?
The real answer is, you can't actually sell those. Well, at least, technically we artists don't own the rights to do so. But we rarely see artists getting sued. And some people also consider it 'good promotion' and make less of a big deal out of people painting their likeness. Especially in case of someone like Sinatra, it is pretty much impossible to simply get permission. Also, where would someone like Joachim Phoenix even start when it comes to suing every artist that may have painted and sold him as the Joker? Or how about the Breaking Bad main actor? I do think (some) people selling Spiderman or Batman t-shirts end up getting cease and desist letters, but they'd have to sell some significant numbers of t-shirts before any lawyer is ever going to bother.
Fan art is awesome. It’s what gets lots of children drawing when they’re young. And for some, it leads to amazing careers. Whoever “they” are needs to stop talking and mind their own business first before judging others
Great topic, I view it like sampling music. Yet with painting. Take the theme and be creative with it. Don’t paint the same Frankenstein that everyone has done, but a different perspective of him. Nice painting and love the channel Ps did you know he’s vegan 🌱
Yes you should draw fan art. Literally every famous Renaissance painting was commissioned, usually by the Church. Meaning: most classical pieces are fan arts of the Bible.
I started painting 2 years ago, and someone has just asked me to do a painting (of Steve Jobs). My first commission! But for some reason I feel like my painting skills have been reset to factory setting. Like I've lost my mojo completely. Have you ever experienced this?
I have a question I hope you might address in one of your Paint Talks. How do you paint loose leaving out details and have it look purposeful and not elementary? Hope that makes sense. Thanks!
If you're not selling it, fan art is fine for practice or gifts. Not OK to make money off of other people's art - and that includes photography taken by anyone else. That's my opinion. I take my own reference pictures.
Anyone that says "fanart isn't art" is simply too inexperienced to understand art and doesn't know its history. You can copy artwork but that require a lot of effort (unless you run it through a copying machine but that is a different discussion) and I wouldn't necessarily call it art at that point but I would call it a great learning session if you are trying to understand that artists style. This goes for drawings / music / paintings / games etc...
those that say not to do fan art because it isn't an original piece of artwork must not have done any master studies either since they aren't producing an original piece of artwork ....
I'm getting up the courage to paint in oils but I know I need to work on color theory... I was trying to get a bone color, the closest I got was an orange brown. Can you help? Or can anyone that sees this, help please? 😅
fan art is going to sell easiest....and basically everything is fan art....painting the Eifel Tower - well, that is fan art - it is an icon and someone is painting it because they are a fan of architecture, the history and the iconic and romantic nature of what the tower and Paris represents...painting Jesus or any historical figure is also a type of fan art....painting a real existing landscape is a type of fan art- I mean, you had to be a "fan" of that landscape in order to take time to paint it....it is nonsense...paint whatever you like
Well I think it all depends. If you just copy an image from a movie then no, there is almost no art in there. Now, if for example you create a whole new scene with.. lets say Yoda riding a large walking bird in a desert......, you can be making some nice art.
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I think fan art is an important expression of our culture. I drew a portrait of a favorite TH-cam story teller and it was an important transition in my learning curve. Couldn't agree with you more! Love you and your channel.
to me this isn't even a question. Whatever gets you writing or painting or just doing something creative is *VALID*. Who cares what the subject is, especially if you're not selling it.
As someone who has wasted a ton of time trying to be original BEFORE honing my technical skills, great job on this video. THANK YOU. I needed to hear that. I was coming around but the confirmation is helpful.
That was damn good. I’ll be honest. I was really into acting, and music, before my stroke. I was repeatedly told by a few people. "You have to go to New York/Hollywood to be recognized." "There’s no money starting out." Do this. Do that, but don’t do this. Man, naysayers everywhere. Don’t listen to them. No matter who they are. Just do it. No expectations.
You want to paint? Do it. You want to act? Do it. Do anything! You will be disappointed, or not cast in a part. That’s life. Don’t stop, and throw in the towel. Keep doing it.
Well done exposing the hypocrisies of calling one thing "fan art" and if it's a "study" of a master it's called something different! Literature is my bag, and there are some graphic novels I put right up there with classics. I love going from Dostoyevsky to Alan Moore and don't feel one is "higher" than another. Also, this format is perfect :) As always, thank you.
“Man is sometimes extraordinarily, passionately, in love with suffering, and comic book movies.”
- Dostoevsky, “Notes from Underground,” Part I.
Thanks!
@Gurby M: But... there's actually a real difference between 'fan art' and doing a traditional master copy. The purpose of a master copy is _not_ about the end result or even about a true copy. It is about understanding the process and techniques, colour mixing strategy and colour choices. The average 'fan art' drawing, usually related to comics or movies or whatever, is not about investigating or solving those types of problems at all, but just recreating an actor in a certain role you like or like a certain comic hero. Often copied from a movie still or comic book page. I know there are cases where an artist is good enough to create a very high quality realistic painting, that also happens to be fan art. But something like that is pretty much never about researching technique. And just from a technical point of view alone, a Rembrandt painting is leagues above a comic book line drawing or even a movie scene. It's why a single movie frame would never sell for $50M...
I love all of your comments and rational and so agree with encouraging art skills. A person is studying and learning all the time, can sense when something is off. Plus, expressing additional meaning-learning from that. I so agree. (I haven't done fan art but now I want to!👍)
Love your new format of split screen working/talk great idea!!!!
I'm glad to see you are talking on the screen again. That communicates better and I can occasionally look at the painting in progress, without feeling I have to concentrate on two things at once.
I hardly passed art class, but I kept taking it. I now have a carrier in painting.
That's awesome!
Hey! I'm so glad to hear you failed art in high school. My teacher didn't like me either, and I failed too. And now I am an artist.
Love love your videos, I'm watching them all.
Fan art is my favourite way of practicing. I see it more like a tribute to the creator of the subject and also I believe having a very well known subject makes it easier for artists to compare styles online and putting artists with similar interests together ❤
I really appreciate that you also ‘what to know’ the person you are painting. 👍🏽
This is such a great video especially to those still in the beginning stages of their creative journey. I’ve always thought and argued the point there is so much to be learned from copying everything. We aren’t talking about making a career off copies but for acquiring mileage and making breakthroughs/discoveries why not paint things you love. You’ll do it daily as opposed to sporadically.
I love fan art coach, I started painting people and fan art was a great way for me to practice. So like they say put me in coach.
thank you thank you thank you. You nailed it in this video.
"I'm a tenth grader in high school doing fanart of my favorite movies..." got to me.
Whatever gets you to create and build skill, counts.
Oh, I do like THIS video Format - great :O)
I think Fanart is a great way to improve your skills, that's the way I started portraits. When I find a character interesting I have to paint him/her. All this people who think they can decide whats art and what isn't killing the freedom and creativity in art.
Sure you can't sell fanart for copyright reasons, but there is no crime in doing it for yourself.
Wow I just discovered your channel and I’ve learned so much so far. I’m currently an acrylic painter, but I’ve been wanting to switch to oil for the longest. Unfortunately I got so caught up on trying to be original and stressing about how oils are so difficult that I’ve wasted monthsss of doing nothing. I’m excited to try oils again with a positive mindset and to stop stressing about perfection! Thanks for these videos it really helped me ☺️
I really love your videos. Thanks for the work putting them out there for us.
If art does not have any rules, then you are free to do whatever you want :) Whether it is fan art or copy from a master, it does not matter i believe. Btw, your videos are such great works, and I love watching them and copying them for practicing xD
Whatever helps you go forward, practice is what’s going to make you a better painter.
Your 10th grade teacher should see you now. BTW., today I received my first order of brushes from Rosemary and Co. I was thrilled to get that package. Four beautiful long handled brushes.. I’ll try them out tomorrow. Thanks Chris for all you do. From Tallahassee Florida
I think my drawing skills really improved when years ago I got obsessed with drawing Jensen Ackles' face (from Supernatural) lol. That was a real turning point for me! So team fan art here haha
I love that show. He has such a photogenic face. 😝
I'm learning to play guitar right now. How do you learn to play? You learn and try to play the songs that you love to listen to. I didn't write them, but it's the tool that I'm using to develop that practice the skills that maybe later I'll use to write my own material. Copying what you love is how your stay motivated when you reach the post-beginner intermediate plateau.
Fan art is great for a multitude of reasons 1 give your body the muscle memory and the eye hand coordination 2 it improves the personal artistic talent you possess. Those are just two good reasons to do fan art
Fan art is no different to the artists of yesteryear painting known figures of their culture or historical figures in general. How many deaths of Cleopatra are there? If it resonates in you, paint it.
Fan art is a great way to get commissions as a beginner!
Instructors put it down because so many people are using TH-cam and their natural creativity/talent to go out and create art where some instructors paid thousands of dollars for an art education. I've met a lot of talented artists... some trained... some self taught... whatever motivates and inspires you to draw/paint is fine by me. When you go to sell your work though... make sure it is original artwork is all... Take Will Terry for instance... huge fan of fan art as an illustrator... but he takes movie characters and transforms them into his own style of caricature. That is fine in my opinion...
Really interesting topic Chris! I'd love to hear more about how you deal with selling your fan art. Like your recent Sinatra painting or Johnny Cash. Those are incredible pieces! But did you have to deal with royalties or something in order to sell those?
The real answer is, you can't actually sell those. Well, at least, technically we artists don't own the rights to do so. But we rarely see artists getting sued. And some people also consider it 'good promotion' and make less of a big deal out of people painting their likeness. Especially in case of someone like Sinatra, it is pretty much impossible to simply get permission. Also, where would someone like Joachim Phoenix even start when it comes to suing every artist that may have painted and sold him as the Joker? Or how about the Breaking Bad main actor? I do think (some) people selling Spiderman or Batman t-shirts end up getting cease and desist letters, but they'd have to sell some significant numbers of t-shirts before any lawyer is ever going to bother.
Fan art is the shit! ✊🔥
Fan art is awesome. It’s what gets lots of children drawing when they’re young. And for some, it leads to amazing careers. Whoever “they” are needs to stop talking and mind their own business first before judging others
Great topic, I view it like sampling music. Yet with painting. Take the theme and be creative with it. Don’t paint the same Frankenstein that everyone has done, but a different perspective of him.
Nice painting and love the channel
Ps did you know he’s vegan 🌱
Yes you should draw fan art. Literally every famous Renaissance painting was commissioned, usually by the Church. Meaning: most classical pieces are fan arts of the Bible.
Everything is borrowed, even the most original subject has a source thats lended from , from music to movies to art .
I started painting 2 years ago, and someone has just asked me to do a painting (of Steve Jobs). My first commission! But for some reason I feel like my painting skills have been reset to factory setting. Like I've lost my mojo completely. Have you ever experienced this?
Excelente 👍
Until I do a commision or sell a copyrighted piece if I paid for the materials anything I want to paint is my business.
I have a question I hope you might address in one of your Paint Talks. How do you paint loose leaving out details and have it look purposeful and not elementary? Hope that makes sense. Thanks!
how does it work when you get commissioned to do a fan art piece? for example, spongebob painting for a kids room? things like that?
If you're not selling it, fan art is fine for practice or gifts. Not OK to make money off of other people's art - and that includes photography taken by anyone else. That's my opinion. I take my own reference pictures.
Can acrylic do that bro?
Anyone that says "fanart isn't art" is simply too inexperienced to understand art and doesn't know its history.
You can copy artwork but that require a lot of effort (unless you run it through a copying machine but that is a different discussion) and I wouldn't necessarily call it art at that point but I would call it a great learning session if you are trying to understand that artists style. This goes for drawings / music / paintings / games etc...
I really don't think is important what you paint. It is HOW you paint it that matters.
those that say not to do fan art because it isn't an original piece of artwork must not have done any master studies either since they aren't producing an original piece of artwork ....
I'm getting up the courage to paint in oils but I know I need to work on color theory... I was trying to get a bone color, the closest I got was an orange brown. Can you help? Or can anyone that sees this, help please? 😅
Warhol was fan art in a way, no?
I think it only crosses a line when we get into the legal realm and copyright areas. For practice and just your own personal use why not?
I mean it has the word "art" right in it
fan art is going to sell easiest....and basically everything is fan art....painting the Eifel Tower - well, that is fan art - it is an icon and someone is painting it because they are a fan of architecture, the history and the iconic and romantic nature of what the tower and Paris represents...painting Jesus or any historical figure is also a type of fan art....painting a real existing landscape is a type of fan art- I mean, you had to be a "fan" of that landscape in order to take time to paint it....it is nonsense...paint whatever you like
Well I think it all depends. If you just copy an image from a movie then no, there is almost no art in there. Now, if for example you create a whole new scene with.. lets say Yoda riding a large walking bird in a desert......, you can be making some nice art.
I find FAN
art very boring and uncreative....but that's my opinion only... may not be right
What even is this video, who would say fan art is not art
Henry Matisse: “I don't paint women, I paint pictures”.
In other words the subject is the excuse to come out with a painting.