I’ve been your mate on TH-cam for years, Vince. 53min is not long and here’s why you have my attention for that length of time - because it’s honest … this is what the process is like when things break and people like us repair them. Keep on doing you, don’t worry about us, we’re happy. Cheers from across the pond!
You never need to apologize for video length, Your videos are amazing as well informative , They give me inspiration to keep trying to fix what normally id just toss out. Love the video and your amazing VInce.
Vince, I have to say this, but I just don't care how long your videos are. For me, mate, the longer the better. I could listen to your relaxing voice forever, and I love watching you repair stuff, no matter what, but I have to say I loved the Roller the best, next comes your in house repairs, followed by all the other stuff. It's a pleasure watching you fix anything. Keep up the good work, Vince, and thank you for the insight into your life, I just love it, sticky beak that I am David
Thank you for showing the whole process. I think it is important you show the journey to the fix/ failure and not set unrealistic expectations for viewers who may be new to troubleshooting and repair.
@@Tjoeb123everyone does shorts (mostly. Mostly) in order to gain a larger audience and corner that sweet sweet ADHD demographic. I have uploaded over 2,900 TH-cam shorts that are 5 seconds long, in order to frustrate the Shorts viewers, because they have been ruining the platform for the rest of us. Now the algorithm considers 10 minutes to be a long video, and 12 minutes to be long enough to put 2 ads in. I haven't watched an ad since 1999, because ads make you sterile, and probably 30% of ads are scams in some way. That number could be + \ - 10% due to my unwillingness to watch ads just to have more accurate numbers of potential scamminess. My sperm count is low enough, thank you.
Google: 18650 battery holder with leads.. you can buy different types..1,2,3,4 cells... you don't have to solder the battery... I used to do that kind of butchering with batteries...at least you could use your spot welder to attach some plates to the battery... after the soldering... Great job 👍.. Greetings from Dartford!
I think that thing (30:40) may be a ferrite bead “choke” for removing high frequency noise from the motor getting back to the board. My theory is it came off when you desoldered the motor to power it with the bench power supply.
Stop apologising you do what you do to prove out faults whether its 1 or multiple keep doing you as it works and your video's are informative and helpful
I bought one of these in 2007 (similar Philips not the exact model) and used it for about 3 years and lost it. I found it in 2016 so it had been lost for 5 years, I obviously assumed that battery would be dead and expected it to be ruined, I pushed the button and it worked just fine.. I used it for another 5 years and then treated myself to a new 9000 series. I got the old 2007 one out the other day and it still works fine and holds enough charge to be useful. Compared to some other razors the Philips do sound slower, but they work well
I love how you are teaching yourself (and us) by getting your hands on. Your desire to understand how things work and what causes them to go wrong is infectious.
1hour of entertainment is good stop putting yourself down we love your videos because of your style of videos the edits the searching for both parts and faults!
Loved this video, one of my favs. I like when you "tell the full story" and take us through your fault finding logic and tests along the way. You and Stez have taught me a lot from these longer videos. And what a feeling at the end to hear that strong motor going! Thanks Vince!
Just did this job on my own 7000 series shaver. It's been getting a bit 'lazy' of late so I assumed(!) just a failing battery, even though it has been going pretty well between charges, but this prompted me to buy a new motor as well...and saved me the bother of taking it apart to see what parts I needed as well. Thank you! ..and, it was the first job I have completed on my shiny new 'blue mat'. FWIW, the replacement cell I bought claims to be a 3800mAh (not tested and really don't expect it to be that good), vs the OEM cell of 680mAh
Great video Vince! Yes, it was a long one but it was a good fix! You've chatted before about wanting good fixes for your videos, not just opening something up and finding the ground wire has popped off the battery terminal for example and in my opinion this was one of those good ones instead! I think a lot of us don't mind the long videos. I'm sure they're more of a pain to edit down though ahaha
Don't beat yourself up on the length or your process. It is great to see your thought process as you try to fix things and that's what is fun to watch. I doubt anyone would do anything differently to you on this. Why would you suspect the motor as for most shavers you can replace the battery at least once and the motor is never a consideration? I say well done to you.
I love the longer videos - you can get really engrossed in the fix. I vote for TH-cam ditching the part of the algorithm that discriminates against long videos!
One of the best videos yet, don't ever worry about the length. If it's too long, we will watch it in segments. And yes I firmly believe 3 proper faults. The motor was the original. The battery I'll bet money was a bad replacement or maybe damaged during the soldering from heat. And the chip took the brunt of the strain when the motor was failing and the owner probably used it plugged in as I often do when the battery is dead. That put too much stress on that chip and the heat killed it. Great video, good logic. A+++
My first thoughts were the carbon brushes, but there aren't any LOL. Still worthed to repair. Nowadays € 160,- for the cheapest 7000 series. All the best Vince.
Hey Vince, I see you bought that spot welder I recommended, the one that creates big sparks. I weld on T10 most of the time, shame it takes 15 minutes to warm up. You're the reason I now fix things and re sell them. Keep up the fantastic videos mate, I love em.😊
There is a reason most people just trash electronics when they stop working. If you would calculate your time you put into the shaver you could have bought the company. That being said Vince you teach us something new with every video and you skill are second to none. Thanks Vince.😎😎😎😎 The only thing you left out was us watching you shave.
Dude, thank you, you inspired me to try fixing my shaver that stopped working after I dropped it. Though my fault was much easier to fix (board came out of a clip, so the switch on the shell didn't make contact, I just set it back in and it works now), I didn't bother to try up until now, but when you shown how it works it gave me confidence to try it myself.
The timing of this upload cannot be anymore perfect Vince. Only a couple of hours ago, I was looking into Philips series shavers to repair. I've watched you for years and you've expanded my own knowledge and passion for 'tinkering'. I love your in-depth content. Your failures are always a learning curve and your exploration to understand is invaluable and something which I can relate to. Delivery is always spot on, educational and entertaining. Thank you for your work and thank you for the internet to allow me to connect with you. Cheers Vince. If you're ever in Yorkshire, let me know. A meal and drinks for you and the family. X
Good video. Like you said, the story has to be told. It would sort of be a cop out to omit steps, and depreciate the learning value. Personally I really enjoy the long ones. Nice complete repair. The battery attachment had to be corrected anyways, and that chip had seen a bit of thermal torture. Add the new motor, and shoot, it's reconditioned. Super cool.
Good one as a viewer incredible that you made it to the end, if I was fixing this that shaver and new chip including new battery would find a new dent in a wall close to the workbench :) thank you ❤
That old chip was hitting 122C. I'm surprised it even stayed intact. A bit of advice, you should probably check the actual temperatures that your IR cam shows in future. I'm sure it would have saved you some time in this case. You know yourself that there's no way in hell a healthy chip of any kind in a small device like this would get so hot.
Thought I saw 120 degrees on there. It would be dangerous for that to be general use. 50 to 60 is pretty normal, case will usually warm up a bit but 120 is not right.
Well done Vince - your persistence is again rewarded, and a very enjoyable video. I could consider it a ‘Tea-break fix’ … plenty of time to cultivate, pick, dry, and brew the tea 😀 Keep up the great work 😀👍
I understand your trouble with editing this video, but I actually think this is a great video for folks without much experience who might be a little apprehensive to give fixing a go. It was honest, you shared a lot of ideas and techniques, and you got there in the end. Also -- Sometimes (as you know) it really doesn't make much fiscal sense to have to replace so much to get something working again, but it was really nice to see that everything that needed to be replaced to fix this shaver was reasonably priced, especially the motor. And being able to replace the blades themselves on this model makes this a very useful video and I'm pretty interested in this model now too LOL. Cheers!
never say sorry Vince your videos are great mate. I love seeing people like you fix and make things,I admire people who can do things like this,my brain just farts at me when I try to anything other than wake up.
When I saw you reverse the polarity on the motor I yelled No don't do that. I have done something similar to a motor that is designed to only turn one way and killed it too. I think that is what killed it but it did also look quite worn. My Philips shaver is over 20 years old and still works fine and the one you repaired didn't look all that old, maybe 10 years.
I know that longer videos don't usually get many views, but those are the ones that I enjoy the most, be it a job lot or an individual item so I hope you keep making these once in a while. Greetings my mate.
My only "problem" with the longer videos is I tend to get behind on watching other videos I'm subscribed to...but I eventually catch up so I don't mind the long videos!
I had a Phillips rotary shaver years ago but couldn't get a decent shave out of it. I went over to Braun foil shavers in the end and now I have two, both nearly 30 years old now and still going strong.
I had one in the 90s that was good but newer Philips models haven't cut fine enough. I've got a Remington one designed for baldness with 5 heads. Works an absolute treat for general shaving
I repair laptops, and other electricals if people want them fixed, and I charge an hourly rate. That shaver would have gone in the bin as it took at least 3-4 weeks to get parts and probably 6 hours plus to fault find and fix. Vince does the fix for the video so an hourly rate doesn't matter and parts were about GB£10.
Good work mate, I noticed the symptoms straight away and I knew what you were going to find inside that nasty cheap motor! My wife had one of those food grinder things, and it exhibited exactly the same symptoms, when I took the motor apart, it was exactly the same motor with the same cheap brush setup, carbon brushes would have been a lot better instead! I ended up binning it as the motor didn't have any markings on it, I still watched the entire video though, interesting to see you walk through the thought process, :) Chas
couldn't go through lots of comments to check, but with such motors, you can spot two vents that allow you to separate the brushes before pulling out the rear cover. there must be some kind of special tool that holds the cover with the brushes pushed out on the sides.
No applogy needed . I love the longer vids . The journey is important to be shown . Dont let any haters try put you down . Keep doing what you are . Helped me nk end . All best
I bought my Philips shaver somewhere in the 90's. Still going strong, no motor problems but the NiMH cells were replaced a few times during its life. Many devices with a Li-ion battery in it need to be kickstarted after the battery was disconnected, by connecting the charger momentarily. In your diag process, you did not plug the charger after connecting the bench supply as a battery replacement. Also, when it ran, you did not check the battery voltage while running. That would give a good indication of the state of the battery. The motor was blocking when it was turned against its normal direction. That is indeed a red flag. It also ran a bit irregularly at some point in the video. Also a red flag. So the charger IC was obviously faulty. When you first used the FLIR, the coil did not get hot, just the chip. That buck regulator was not 'bucking' to 4.2V anymore. I think, this chip died a long time ago, basically changing into a PTC resistor. When it gets hot, its resistance goes up. On this way, it will take a very long time for the battery to charge. And it probably won't stop at 4.20V. Owner probably kept it on charge 24/7, to ensure that the battery won't go down. But during 24 hours, the battery gets overcharged. Its lifetime diminishes quickly. And the motor might also suffer more wear with a higher voltage. This motor was too far gone, though.
I got some similar replacement blades for my series 1000, the came in a plain package direct from China. Upon examination they are genuine Philips cutters, identical to those in my SERIES 3000.
Well done. This may be an illusion (15:16) but, if not, I would advise against welding when the nickel strips are connected to the electronics. Although the welding voltage tends to be low it can exceed the battery voltage and the current will be very high, albeit for a very short time.
This was a good fix. Maybe the chip failed because of the badly soldered battery or motor fail. Battery could have been damaged due to the original soldering. Anyway enjoyed the long troubleshooting!
I actually enjoy the longer videos Vince! I enjoy the ride through the whole history :D It makes it for even better the already very much satisfying "YES! YES! YES! OMG! YES!" when that happens! haha, like the previous video with the old atari video game consoles, i live vicariously through your hyped yes moments hahaha. Anyways, you dont need to worry about the length of the video, at least for me, i'll enjoy them all the same :D
Those types of blades have changed very little over many years , my dad and grandad both had mains versions and sharpened theirs I was told you can sharpen them as they were a expensive replacement, just remove them a little drop of 3 in 1 oil on a piece of flat glass and rub them in a circular motion ...
I had a shaver with the exact same issue. Low power and would cut out when there was too much strain, also had charging issues. Same as this one the fingers inside the motor were worn through. I ended up replacing the motor but the issue persisted. Now that I've seen this video I bet that the motor took out the charging chip just like with this one.
I can never understand with Philip shavers why you can buy a 3000 series shave for £50 and you can pay as much as £350 for 7000 series shaver, basically they’re all the same! Great video, thanks Vince.
Different cutting heads. My old one with triple cutters in the head is a lot better than my new one with single cutter. Although it doesn't look like Philips do a triple cutter head anymore
You are right it's a long video but it was entertaining throughout, I had to watch it in 3 parts and was nearly late for work. PS i have a mains powered Philips shaver for 25 years and never replaced the cutters - is that a record?
your videos are so enjoyable, i dont mind whether its long or short. I missed your signature triumphant 'Yyyyeeeeesssss'' jig this time around though. i quite look forward for that. 😄😄
Hey Vince, the manual says this shaver runs on 5V; so isn't the battery too low on voltage? If the shaver expects 5V but does get 4,2 at max, that would explain why it runs only a few minutes and kept saying "low voltage" with the amber light, isn't it? Also, might be why the motor doesn't have enough speed and why the chip would get hot, as it is trying to draw more power into the battery. The backside of the shaver also says, the adapter is 15V, a bit high for a standard 3,7V battery, isn't it - would expect 12V? The battery was replaced by your friend so it isn't the original battery it came with. So you don't know if your friend put the correct replacement battery in it but you did assume it was. Can see the mistake at your friends end, 3,7V batteries are very common, 5V batteries are really hard to get, maybe he thought "one size fits all"?
Welcome to the new world of DC converters. 15 V chargers work better for charging batteries faster even if it needs only 4V. Then the converters can increase it to the motor voltage of 12 V when shaving. FYI the new USB C ports are not just 5 V anymore. I have seen 24 V devices output or charge voltage but the default can drop back to 5 V
The length of your videos is irrelevant. You are fault finding, it's not like the fault or faults are going to jump out and say here I am come and fix me. I do like some of the quick and easy fixes. But I also like the ones that test you. If you didn't get one that was a hard fix, then you wouldn't learn new things for future reference. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK
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When I went to buy a new shave once I couldn't believe the prices,so I repaired mine new batteries done🎉
Ooooooh, I'm half-way through only but I just realized this might have nothing to do with the battery. These Philips have a wear counter for the blades and start blinking orange when you're past the wear counter... you can reset the counter with some power-on procedure while plugged-in. Something like holding the power button for X seconds while plugged in, etc. There might be some hardware failure for sure (and I'm curious to see the end of the video) but maybe my comment might help someone with the wear counter issue.... worth trying before doing anything more in-depth. EDIT: The motor was a good catch, but remember, you might one day run into the orange light again and it could be the wear counter :D EDIT2: And you just explained the resetting... nice job there :D
Nice fault finding and fix, liked a lot of that assembly section 80's style music too :) My shaver is Philips too, but corded version, model number PT710/17. Bought it in 2012 and it still works, altough new blades certainly would improve the result. Original cable from power supply to the shaver started breaking down, namely the top cover, the actual wires were still ok, but Philips haircutter (HC3400) I happen to have, use the same psu (HQ8505), so started using that one. The old psu still worked fine though, but because of that broken cable cover, it wasn't very nice to use.
When talking about all the possible faults when you first got it don't forget that the negative end of the original "replacement" battery was unsoldered. I'm wondering if that's what actually caused the original chip to burn out too.
This is just an odd thought, but is that the right battery? The reason I say this is because the battery looked like it had the little extra internal BMS board in the positive end. Wouldn’t that be done by the shaver PCB itself self? ??? Was the wrong replace t battery fitted originally?
Do you have a smart charger for lithium batteries? If not, I think you would enjoy having one. I have a Liitokala lii-500 from Ali, and it can do a charge/discharge test. In this video, you could have tested if the first replacement cell had taken damage or if it still had capacity.
I had a Philips one a few years back, for what it is, basically a small DC motor & a battery, the circuitry seems very over complicated, just for a shaver. Many years ago, older style models would just be little more than a motor battery & switch!
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I’ve been your mate on TH-cam for years, Vince. 53min is not long and here’s why you have my attention for that length of time - because it’s honest … this is what the process is like when things break and people like us repair them. Keep on doing you, don’t worry about us, we’re happy. Cheers from across the pond!
An hour is not long Vince. Prime time TV shows are an hour and I'd rather watch you than mainstream tv,
And at double speed it's only 30 minutes! 😀
Exactly.
"What's Prime Time TV?". I walked away for TV in the US in 2020. One those rare occasions I see what I'm missing, I see I'm not missing much.
Totally agree
I watched this video during dinner so it’s fine
You never need to apologize for video length, Your videos are amazing as well informative , They give me inspiration to keep trying to fix what normally id just toss out. Love the video and your amazing VInce.
Vince, I have to say this, but I just don't care how long your videos are. For me, mate, the longer the better. I could listen to your relaxing voice forever, and I love watching you repair stuff, no matter what, but I have to say I loved the Roller the best, next comes your in house repairs, followed by all the other stuff. It's a pleasure watching you fix anything. Keep up the good work, Vince, and thank you for the insight into your life, I just love it, sticky beak that I am David
I appreciate the longer videos. Keep them coming please. I always learn something from your videos.
Thank you for showing the whole process. I think it is important you show the journey to the fix/ failure and not set unrealistic expectations for viewers who may be new to troubleshooting and repair.
I honestly enjoy your long form videos. Can’t stand TH-cam shorts.
I didn't even know he did shorts.
@@Tjoeb123everyone does shorts (mostly. Mostly) in order to gain a larger audience and corner that sweet sweet ADHD demographic.
I have uploaded over 2,900 TH-cam shorts that are 5 seconds long, in order to frustrate the Shorts viewers, because they have been ruining the platform for the rest of us.
Now the algorithm considers 10 minutes to be a long video, and 12 minutes to be long enough to put 2 ads in.
I haven't watched an ad since 1999, because ads make you sterile, and probably 30% of ads are scams in some way. That number could be + \ - 10% due to my unwillingness to watch ads just to have more accurate numbers of potential scamminess. My sperm count is low enough, thank you.
You are spoiling us :) another video in relatively quick succession. Keep them coming Vince :)
Google: 18650 battery holder with leads.. you can buy different types..1,2,3,4 cells... you don't have to solder the battery... I used to do that kind of butchering with batteries...at least you could use your spot welder to attach some plates to the battery... after the soldering... Great job 👍.. Greetings from Dartford!
I think that thing (30:40) may be a ferrite bead “choke” for removing high frequency noise from the motor getting back to the board. My theory is it came off when you desoldered the motor to power it with the bench power supply.
Stop apologising you do what you do to prove out faults whether its 1 or multiple keep doing you as it works and your video's are informative and helpful
I bought one of these in 2007 (similar Philips not the exact model) and used it for about 3 years and lost it. I found it in 2016 so it had been lost for 5 years, I obviously assumed that battery would be dead and expected it to be ruined, I pushed the button and it worked just fine.. I used it for another 5 years and then treated myself to a new 9000 series. I got the old 2007 one out the other day and it still works fine and holds enough charge to be useful. Compared to some other razors the Philips do sound slower, but they work well
I love how you are teaching yourself (and us) by getting your hands on. Your desire to understand how things work and what causes them to go wrong is infectious.
1hour of entertainment is good stop putting yourself down we love your videos because of your style of videos the edits the searching for both parts and faults!
Loved this video, one of my favs. I like when you "tell the full story" and take us through your fault finding logic and tests along the way. You and Stez have taught me a lot from these longer videos. And what a feeling at the end to hear that strong motor going! Thanks Vince!
Just did this job on my own 7000 series shaver. It's been getting a bit 'lazy' of late so I assumed(!) just a failing battery, even though it has been going pretty well between charges, but this prompted me to buy a new motor as well...and saved me the bother of taking it apart to see what parts I needed as well.
Thank you!
..and, it was the first job I have completed on my shiny new 'blue mat'.
FWIW, the replacement cell I bought claims to be a 3800mAh (not tested and really don't expect it to be that good), vs the OEM cell of 680mAh
Great video Vince! Yes, it was a long one but it was a good fix! You've chatted before about wanting good fixes for your videos, not just opening something up and finding the ground wire has popped off the battery terminal for example and in my opinion this was one of those good ones instead! I think a lot of us don't mind the long videos. I'm sure they're more of a pain to edit down though ahaha
Don't beat yourself up on the length or your process. It is great to see your thought process as you try to fix things and that's what is fun to watch. I doubt anyone would do anything differently to you on this. Why would you suspect the motor as for most shavers you can replace the battery at least once and the motor is never a consideration? I say well done to you.
I love the longer videos - you can get really engrossed in the fix. I vote for TH-cam ditching the part of the algorithm that discriminates against long videos!
One of the best videos yet, don't ever worry about the length. If it's too long, we will watch it in segments. And yes I firmly believe 3 proper faults. The motor was the original. The battery I'll bet money was a bad replacement or maybe damaged during the soldering from heat. And the chip took the brunt of the strain when the motor was failing and the owner probably used it plugged in as I often do when the battery is dead. That put too much stress on that chip and the heat killed it. Great video, good logic. A+++
My first thoughts were the carbon brushes, but there aren't any LOL. Still worthed to repair. Nowadays € 160,- for the cheapest 7000 series. All the best Vince.
Hey Vince, I see you bought that spot welder I recommended, the one that creates big sparks. I weld on T10 most of the time, shame it takes 15 minutes to warm up. You're the reason I now fix things and re sell them. Keep up the fantastic videos mate, I love em.😊
I love a good long video. Sit down with a good bowl of cereal and get comfy. It’s nice to see an honest troubleshooting and repair.
Very good video, please leave them as long as you like. Ignore negative comments and do things your way. Your way is what most people appreciate.
There is a reason most people just trash electronics when they stop working. If you would calculate your time you put into the shaver you could have bought the company. That being said Vince you teach us something new with every video and you skill are second to none. Thanks Vince.😎😎😎😎 The only thing you left out was us watching you shave.
Dude, thank you, you inspired me to try fixing my shaver that stopped working after I dropped it. Though my fault was much easier to fix (board came out of a clip, so the switch on the shell didn't make contact, I just set it back in and it works now), I didn't bother to try up until now, but when you shown how it works it gave me confidence to try it myself.
The timing of this upload cannot be anymore perfect Vince. Only a couple of hours ago, I was looking into Philips series shavers to repair.
I've watched you for years and you've expanded my own knowledge and passion for 'tinkering'. I love your in-depth content. Your failures are always a learning curve and your exploration to understand is invaluable and something which I can relate to. Delivery is always spot on, educational and entertaining. Thank you for your work and thank you for the internet to allow me to connect with you.
Cheers Vince. If you're ever in Yorkshire, let me know. A meal and drinks for you and the family. X
For fault finding and fixing videos I'm good with watching an hour long video this was actually a pretty good one!
Brilliant fix yes I agree the chip was the blame, it was going into shut down nice call Vince well done 😊
Never apologise for a long video i found it extremely interesting so thankyou
For what it’s worth , I prefer the longer episodes. Good work.
Good video. Like you said, the story has to be told. It would sort of be a cop out to omit steps, and depreciate the learning value. Personally I really enjoy the long ones. Nice complete repair. The battery attachment had to be corrected anyways, and that chip had seen a bit of thermal torture. Add the new motor, and shoot, it's reconditioned. Super cool.
Good one as a viewer incredible that you made it to the end, if I was fixing this that shaver and new chip including new battery would find a new dent in a wall close to the workbench :) thank you ❤
That old chip was hitting 122C. I'm surprised it even stayed intact. A bit of advice, you should probably check the actual temperatures that your IR cam shows in future. I'm sure it would have saved you some time in this case. You know yourself that there's no way in hell a healthy chip of any kind in a small device like this would get so hot.
Thought I saw 120 degrees on there. It would be dangerous for that to be general use. 50 to 60 is pretty normal, case will usually warm up a bit but 120 is not right.
Well done Vince - your persistence is again rewarded, and a very enjoyable video.
I could consider it a ‘Tea-break fix’ … plenty of time to cultivate, pick, dry, and brew the tea 😀
Keep up the great work 😀👍
I understand your trouble with editing this video, but I actually think this is a great video for folks without much experience who might be a little apprehensive to give fixing a go. It was honest, you shared a lot of ideas and techniques, and you got there in the end. Also -- Sometimes (as you know) it really doesn't make much fiscal sense to have to replace so much to get something working again, but it was really nice to see that everything that needed to be replaced to fix this shaver was reasonably priced, especially the motor. And being able to replace the blades themselves on this model makes this a very useful video and I'm pretty interested in this model now too LOL. Cheers!
never say sorry Vince your videos are great mate. I love seeing people like you fix and make things,I admire people who can do things like this,my brain just farts at me when I try to anything other than wake up.
When I saw you reverse the polarity on the motor I yelled No don't do that. I have done something similar to a motor that is designed to only turn one way and killed it too. I think that is what killed it but it did also look quite worn. My Philips shaver is over 20 years old and still works fine and the one you repaired didn't look all that old, maybe 10 years.
I saw that and was thinking "there goes that motor".
I know that longer videos don't usually get many views, but those are the ones that I enjoy the most, be it a job lot or an individual item so I hope you keep making these once in a while. Greetings my mate.
Great video and really interesting fix....so good to see an item with spare parts and sensible to dismantle and repair.
My only "problem" with the longer videos is I tend to get behind on watching other videos I'm subscribed to...but I eventually catch up so I don't mind the long videos!
I had a Phillips rotary shaver years ago but couldn't get a decent shave out of it. I went over to Braun foil shavers in the end and now I have two, both nearly 30 years old now and still going strong.
I had one in the 90s that was good but newer Philips models haven't cut fine enough. I've got a Remington one designed for baldness with 5 heads. Works an absolute treat for general shaving
I don't comment too often but I love your videos. Don't ever change!!! Keep up the great work. 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
I don't mind the long videos, there always entertaining and fun to watch and think about, please keep up the great work!
I enjoy the longer videos, and in the case of repair videos you never know how long it might take.
I like the longer videos so long as the content is different throughout. Good to have MMV videos back!
Be careful when you remove the blades. You should always keep the blade and the grills together as pairs, as they bed in, to each other.
Another good fix Vince the length of A video never bothers me because I know that you’ll do your best to fix it mate well done 👍🏼👍🏼😎
Another awesome video. Learning is half the battle and sometimes it takes a little trial and error. Best wishes from Virginia.
i have a phillips shaver and have been changing my blade it takes as long as it takes never boring
You know what would be nice Vince, a short summary of the costs and amount of labor at the end so we have an idea how much effort you put into it.
I repair laptops, and other electricals if people want them fixed, and I charge an hourly rate. That shaver would have gone in the bin as it took at least 3-4 weeks to get parts and probably 6 hours plus to fault find and fix. Vince does the fix for the video so an hourly rate doesn't matter and parts were about GB£10.
@@Holycurative9610 no I didn't ask for an hourly rate, I asked the amount of total hours and the material costs in total. 😂👍
Good work mate, I noticed the symptoms straight away and I knew what you were going to find inside that nasty cheap motor! My wife had one of those food grinder things, and it exhibited exactly the same symptoms, when I took the motor apart, it was exactly the same motor with the same cheap brush setup, carbon brushes would have been a lot better instead! I ended up binning it as the motor didn't have any markings on it, I still watched the entire video though, interesting to see you walk through the thought process, :) Chas
couldn't go through lots of comments to check, but with such motors, you can spot two vents that allow you to separate the brushes before pulling out the rear cover. there must be some kind of special tool that holds the cover with the brushes pushed out on the sides.
Lol Vince you saying excuse my language for just saying what you did. That's why I like your channel. It's wholesome and appropriate for everyone.
Great work Vince. I’ve had two Philishaves die in similar fashions so good to know and seems like weak point
This was a good one and very good analysis and deduction to come up with the faults.
Length is fine. Great video.
Your summary cracked me up. Ironic with the stubble 😂😂😂😂. Great fix.
No applogy needed . I love the longer vids . The journey is important to be shown . Dont let any haters try put you down . Keep doing what you are . Helped me nk end . All best
I bought my Philips shaver somewhere in the 90's. Still going strong, no motor problems but the NiMH cells were replaced a few times during its life.
Many devices with a Li-ion battery in it need to be kickstarted after the battery was disconnected, by connecting the charger momentarily. In your diag process, you did not plug the charger after connecting the bench supply as a battery replacement. Also, when it ran, you did not check the battery voltage while running. That would give a good indication of the state of the battery.
The motor was blocking when it was turned against its normal direction. That is indeed a red flag. It also ran a bit irregularly at some point in the video. Also a red flag.
So the charger IC was obviously faulty. When you first used the FLIR, the coil did not get hot, just the chip. That buck regulator was not 'bucking' to 4.2V anymore.
I think, this chip died a long time ago, basically changing into a PTC resistor. When it gets hot, its resistance goes up. On this way, it will take a very long time for the battery to charge. And it probably won't stop at 4.20V. Owner probably kept it on charge 24/7, to ensure that the battery won't go down. But during 24 hours, the battery gets overcharged. Its lifetime diminishes quickly. And the motor might also suffer more wear with a higher voltage. This motor was too far gone, though.
Awesome video as always, Vince! This one was quite informative, now I feel quite confident if I ever get one of these and they fail!
I got some similar replacement blades for my series 1000, the came in a plain package direct from China. Upon examination they are genuine Philips cutters, identical to those in my SERIES 3000.
Pretty nice collection of videos for the week thanks!
A long video is fine!! If anything we just pause and have something to look forward to later.
Well done. This may be an illusion (15:16) but, if not, I would advise against welding when the nickel strips are connected to the electronics. Although the welding voltage tends to be low it can exceed the battery voltage and the current will be very high, albeit for a very short time.
Well done after all that effort.
Loved your perseverance with this one!
nice to know that you can make it work even if you dont know what your doing! :)
This was a good fix. Maybe the chip failed because of the badly soldered battery or motor fail. Battery could have been damaged due to the original soldering. Anyway enjoyed the long troubleshooting!
I actually enjoy the longer videos Vince! I enjoy the ride through the whole history :D It makes it for even better the already very much satisfying "YES! YES! YES! OMG! YES!" when that happens! haha, like the previous video with the old atari video game consoles, i live vicariously through your hyped yes moments hahaha. Anyways, you dont need to worry about the length of the video, at least for me, i'll enjoy them all the same :D
Those types of blades have changed very little over many years , my dad and grandad both had mains versions and sharpened theirs I was told you can sharpen them as they were a expensive replacement, just remove them a little drop of 3 in 1 oil on a piece of flat glass and rub them in a circular motion ...
I had a shaver with the exact same issue. Low power and would cut out when there was too much strain, also had charging issues. Same as this one the fingers inside the motor were worn through. I ended up replacing the motor but the issue persisted. Now that I've seen this video I bet that the motor took out the charging chip just like with this one.
Nothing beats a wet shave. 😉👍🏼
Good Fix.
I can never understand with Philip shavers why you can buy a 3000 series shave for £50 and you can pay as much as £350 for 7000 series shaver, basically they’re all the same! Great video, thanks Vince.
Different cutting heads. My old one with triple cutters in the head is a lot better than my new one with single cutter. Although it doesn't look like Philips do a triple cutter head anymore
You are right it's a long video but it was entertaining throughout, I had to watch it in 3 parts and was nearly late for work. PS i have a mains powered Philips shaver for 25 years and never replaced the cutters - is that a record?
your videos are so enjoyable, i dont mind whether its long or short. I missed your signature triumphant 'Yyyyeeeeesssss'' jig this time around though. i quite look forward for that. 😄😄
Music choice is an absolute banger.
Watching the first spot weld reminds me of me. Thanks for the laugh and keep on trudging through.
Well done Vince good work, perhaps if bored video 2 would be to put the old battery and chip back in to see if you was right :)
Love these long edits Vince, never apologise for these, better than tv ;)
I had to look twice.. but it is a new video - hurray!
Hey Vince, the manual says this shaver runs on 5V; so isn't the battery too low on voltage? If the shaver expects 5V but does get 4,2 at max, that would explain why it runs only a few minutes and kept saying "low voltage" with the amber light, isn't it? Also, might be why the motor doesn't have enough speed and why the chip would get hot, as it is trying to draw more power into the battery. The backside of the shaver also says, the adapter is 15V, a bit high for a standard 3,7V battery, isn't it - would expect 12V?
The battery was replaced by your friend so it isn't the original battery it came with. So you don't know if your friend put the correct replacement battery in it but you did assume it was. Can see the mistake at your friends end, 3,7V batteries are very common, 5V batteries are really hard to get, maybe he thought "one size fits all"?
Welcome to the new world of DC converters. 15 V chargers work better for charging batteries faster even if it needs only 4V. Then the converters can increase it to the motor voltage of 12 V when shaving. FYI the new USB C ports are not just 5 V anymore. I have seen 24 V devices output or charge voltage but the default can drop back to 5 V
The length of your videos is irrelevant. You are fault finding, it's not like the fault or faults are going to jump out and say here I am come and fix me.
I do like some of the quick and easy fixes. But I also like the ones that test you. If you didn't get one that was a hard fix, then you wouldn't learn new things for future reference.
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK
When I went to buy a new shave once I couldn't believe the prices,so I repaired mine new batteries done🎉
Long videos are great, no worries!
not too long, really enjoyed this
Ooooooh, I'm half-way through only but I just realized this might have nothing to do with the battery. These Philips have a wear counter for the blades and start blinking orange when you're past the wear counter... you can reset the counter with some power-on procedure while plugged-in. Something like holding the power button for X seconds while plugged in, etc. There might be some hardware failure for sure (and I'm curious to see the end of the video) but maybe my comment might help someone with the wear counter issue.... worth trying before doing anything more in-depth. EDIT: The motor was a good catch, but remember, you might one day run into the orange light again and it could be the wear counter :D EDIT2: And you just explained the resetting... nice job there :D
Vince I love really long videos, Keep them coming
Hy Vince, there's no need for appollogies. I like these extra Long Videos a lot. Faultfinding is always a time consuming Activity.
Only 15 minutes runtime? I've got a Philips Series 3000 shaver and I'd estimate I get about an hours use for a full charge.
Vince, spotwelding on batteries is easier and safer if you go with with two automatic pulses with lower power than just one with high power.
Love the long videos!!! and thank you for new videos everyday so awesome!!
Nice fault finding and fix, liked a lot of that assembly section 80's style music too :)
My shaver is Philips too, but corded version, model number PT710/17. Bought it in 2012 and it still works, altough new blades certainly would improve the result. Original cable from power supply to the shaver started breaking down, namely the top cover, the actual wires were still ok, but Philips haircutter (HC3400) I happen to have, use the same psu (HQ8505), so started using that one. The old psu still worked fine though, but because of that broken cable cover, it wasn't very nice to use.
When talking about all the possible faults when you first got it don't forget that the negative end of the original "replacement" battery was unsoldered. I'm wondering if that's what actually caused the original chip to burn out too.
You do the work needed. Thanks!!!
This is just an odd thought, but is that the right battery? The reason I say this is because the battery looked like it had the little extra internal BMS board in the positive end. Wouldn’t that be done by the shaver PCB itself self? ??? Was the wrong replace t battery fitted originally?
@7:17 Philips shaver picks up Extraterrestrial message! 👽
Great fix Vince 🙂👍
Do you have a smart charger for lithium batteries? If not, I think you would enjoy having one. I have a Liitokala lii-500 from Ali, and it can do a charge/discharge test. In this video, you could have tested if the first replacement cell had taken damage or if it still had capacity.
I had a Philips one a few years back, for what it is, basically a small DC motor & a battery, the circuitry seems very over complicated, just for a shaver. Many years ago, older style models would just be little more than a motor battery & switch!
I find his voice so soothing 😅