2019 Ford Raptor vs Subaru Outback: What's The Best Blizzard Fighter?
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Next Up: A military Hummer with jumbo sized all terrain Bridgestone Blizzak tires vs. A Kawasaki Ninja motorbike with bald tires in 5 feet of snow!
bigart1993 😆 right?
You're right. That's basically an equivalent comparison.
Go cry more
Next up: 4WD Ford F250 with aggressive snows vs. Honda Civic 2WD with bald summer tires. Ford wins!
True
Fwd to rwd conversions
Haha exactly!!!
Exactly lol 😂
I think they just wanted an excuse to drive around in the Raptor under the guise of a review. Definitely an apples-to-oranges (or perhaps kumquat to watermelon?) review, though.
Still waiting for your comparison between the Subaru Outback and a D9 bulldozer for pulling stumps out of the ground. The Outback will have stock all-terrain tires and the D9 will have stock metal tracks so it will be a fair comparison.
Next up: which flies best a Subaru Outback Vs an F16
They will say... the wings, of course, is a big facter.
"The Subaru really struggles to take off, but as you can see the F-16 does it just fine" XDXD
well David,,, unfortunately the Subaru did not maintain enough Tourque at Mach-1 to stay with the F-16,, but we will try again in X-Mode...
All of the comments like this just reinforce how much better the raptor is than the outback.
@@LeftIsFascist Comparing a cheap Subaru with street tires to a Raptor is like comparing the Faptor to an OshKosh L-ATV. The Oshkosh maybe a tad bit more expensive but it would vastly outperform the Raptor on rough terrain. It would also vastly outperform the Raptor against IEDs.
To put the Subaru to the ultimate test you should put it up against a snowmobile! That seems like a “fair test” as all your tests with Subaru
Hahaha. Subie ftw!
The snowmobile will run circles around any Subaru. And it costs much less too.
@@Sm00thieK That was sarcasm, as this channel are always trying to hate in Subaru, as the company won't lend them any cars
My outback goes anywhere with snow tires and studs. Love my Subaru!
How much did that cost?
Check out our previous Car vs Truck Snow Test HERE:th-cam.com/video/3KZbKiFQZD4/w-d-xo.html
I’m excited to see a professional review with snow tires on a Subaru!
Dont get too excited cause subaru is gonna get downplayed as always by these guys.
Once they get winter tires on the Subaru there isn't much of anything to say negative about it besides the lack of power to begin with.
Ground Clearance will still be a issue regardless
@@youhoboken9676 They've only said 4 times a big part is tires, why the butthurt?
@@1dumpedviper not butthurt stating facts. Then they get butthurt when they get provin wrong by subaru 😆
I'm guessing you guys have discovered how many people on TH-cam watch Subaru videos, so you're doing these ridiculous Subaru "tests" and "comparisons" to get more views. No reasonable person would compare an Outback to a Raptor, or do zero to 60 in a base outback, or draw the wrong conclusions from the roller test of the outback, etc.... It's all just click bait.
yup. thats what this channel should be known for
What about the Subaru with KO2s? That’s what I run on mine!
Our next test:
Which is the best off-roader? Hummer H1, or Mazda Miata?
Ugh....
G Wagon.
Miata
Put the same tyres on both vehicles
They literally said in the video that they were going to make a future video out of that
Yes
@@bielmelichartes2167 you dont know shit then. My crosstrek runs the bfg K02S and I've pulled 4x4 trucks out of snow land mud
@@bielmelichartes2167 I'm running bfg t/a K02s 235/75/r15
@@bielmelichartes2167 the are the same tires just not the same size. Yes 35s will do better in deep mud and rock crawling but for snow it doesnt change much
I would like to see the Raptor against the Subaru STi with the locking center diff. Put the STi on comparable tires and let Paul run a lap in both around your test track while it is covered in snow. Best lap time wins.
They didn't use a Raptor in this video
Don’t forget the slalom, moose test in wet tarmac
Now, the Subaru Outback Wilderness is out now ! Rematch 😃
Disingenuous nonsense like this is why Subaru stopped supplying test vehicles to these guys.
So grumpy! It sounds like you are having a bad day. Please don’t take it out on us.
Bad day? A bad day is making crap.
If you're not capable of doing a useful head to head comparison then maybe you need to consider another line of work. Flipping burgers perhaps.
@@TFLcar People have the right to be grumpy. The only reason you are responding is the fact you are salty over the viewers commenting that you make moronic videos.
@@TFLcar because I passed plenty of spun out and stuck trucks and suvs in Colorado winter in the Subaru WRX. Actually pulled a Raptor out with the Subie
@@TFLcar Don't listen to these guys! I found this video VERY entertaining!
You don't even know what Symmetrical AWD means...
Using different tires defeats the purpose of capability comparison. Please use same tires when reviewing various cars. Hope to see this change in future videos.
What, put little car tires on the Raptor? Or try and fail to fit the Raptor tires on the Subaru? Send your complaint to Subaru.
Highway tires verses off road tires in the snow, wow f--n crazy !
You are 100% right, snow tires make all the difference. I currently own a 2018 Subaru Crosstrek and this is my ninth Subaru. I have Sumitomo Ice Edge snows on it and she handles fantastic! In the past I have used Blizzaks, Nokian Nordman and Altimax Arctic snow tires on my Subies and the Sumitomo's are just as good, if not better, and I saved a lot of money! I prefer tires with an aggressive pattern that will dig through the snow. Cheers!
I live in Switzerland and it's obligatory to use proper winter/snow tyres in the winter months. I have a 2015 Subaru Outback and in the snow with proper tyres it's incredible. I've rescued many many people in winter. In snow, a front wheel drive car with snow tyres is more effective than a 4wd with 'summer' or 'all season' tyres. 'All season' tyres are simply crap in all seasons.... but a 4wd/AWD car with proper snow tyres is formidable. Its all about the tyres. Safety first, its your, or your families lives, use the proper tyres!!
Oric Al Yep, every winter I pass by dozens of truck & SUV owners in my FWD car as they are stuck in the ditch, most of them are so buried in car payments they couldn’t afford proper tires!
Ich habe auch einen 2016 Subaru Outback 2.0 D. Es geht nichts über Sommer und Winterräder. All Seasons Reifen sind für Menschen die Sparen wollen , wenig fahren und schon garnicht in höheren Lagen leben . Ich lebe im Schwarzwald / Deutschland.....da kommt man an Winterreifen nicht vorbei!
@@_AdventureGS Your German is very good.
Tyres...
I have been in switzerland sevral times, a lot of subarus in all the mountains villages, ...remeber a truck stuck and a old woman with a suzuki Ignis going to buy bread passing by.
Ah yes, the good old “floor it” technique to get unstuck uphill. 🤔
As a Canadian, stoked to see some Nokian Hakkapeliittas on that Outback!
I have those on my Legacy, and the wife's AWD Sienna. AK/Yukon Tested and Approved!
I've got hak 8's on my Impreza...studded no less. Best traction in the world!
Have studded Hakkapelitta 9s on my Crosstrek and my mom has them on her Grand Cherokee! By far the most amazing snow tires I've ever used.
You can not compare a Subaru Outback with 4 seasons tires
And a Ford raptor with agressive winter tires....I Will give you a
1 on 10 there is no comparaison between the two....
I won't even listen to the end.....
Ford Will give you a truck ....
They didn't use a Raptor
Technically and by definition you can compare anything you want.
I can compare a kitchen knife with a can of spray paint if I want to.
Who the hell is going to cross shop a Subaru and a raptor?
@Two two three Five five six I'm willing to bet more Raptor owners lean right rather than left. We liberals are generally too worried about the environment to daily a gas guzzling 70K truck.
When the husband took the Raptor into service and needs to take the wife's Suby.
@@marklion315 Of course Raptor owners lean right. We're not pussies like libtards. What a sorry group of people you guys are. 🙄
@@jimh.412 Whatever makes you feel better compadre.
They didn't use a Raptor
Excited for the upcoming tires segments, but its also great to see the differences in base form too! Thanks for the time and effort making these videos guys!
Really? A Subaru vs a Raptor? These guys making themselves look like fools. Do they even know what a Blizzard is? A Blizzard is a snowstorm with high winds and really terrible visibility. They're just driving around in the snow, lol.
This is such a generic comparison, made by journalists posing as knowledgeable car guys.
Exactly. A blizzard is large quantity of blowing snow with reduced visibility, perhaps zero visibility. A blizzard can occur whether or not it is actually snowing.
You come out of the corner on M28 north of Harvey, Michigan where Lake Superior can finally get at you in November. Road rated for 50 MPH.
BANG
Instant white-out in a corner with snow, ice, and Superior on your right side with a flimsy guard rail for protection.
THAT is a blizzard.
@wckdkoolbtxh any 4WD relatively heavy vehicle with good tires will do fine in the snow. Your 4runner is nothing special.
@@alansach8437 without snow fall it's specifically called a "ground blizzard" in the flatlands.
Colorado, all of the Rockies really is a poor place to test deep snow ability anyways, it's either dry and fluffy where you can plow it with the front bumper or refroze a few times into a hard crust over the snow/sheet ice in the ruts.
The wet snow of the PNW or upper midwest you can get high centered on a little more than a foot of fresh snow with 10" of ground clearance
@@MinimalistMotoLife I live in the Northern Rockies and ground blizzards are a big problem here, often causing 12 to 18 inch drifts through which virtually nothing is getting through. Conditions in this video are a long way from being a blizzard!
I'm a GM guy, but that Raptor is beautiful.
Nice video!
I am just curious why you are a GM guy?
@@dabbking - I have liked every Silverado except for the 2019s. I also like most Vettes.
Every company makes at least one crappy car though. Ford, FCA, Mercedes, etc. GM as well.
@@calvin- haha according to Scotty all Mercedes are crap cars
DeVench1 That crusty old man is biased against every vehicle that’s not a 1994 Toyota Celica
Can't wait till you get some snow tires on the subie! We have Blizzak WS80s on our Outback and we love it. Still get great mpgs too with the 2.5L
I loved doing a brake test with the ws80's. My passengers thought I was nuts rolling up to a stop sign doing 20mph and the car just stopped😂
just ordered a set for my outback!!!
I have a set of those for my 02 SVT Focus and they work great.
C’mon Fast Lane - you already demonstrated how poor the Bridgestone duelers are on a Subaru in the snow. This is pointless.
I typically like your reviews and am a fan of the channel. Being from Wisconsin and having lived in Colorado for 4 years, I can relate. But I have never seen an Outback perform so poorly and I'm afraid you have grossly mis-represented the Subaru. My outback routinely passed and maneuvered around trucks and SUVs in any snow, light or deep, in both all seasons and winter tires. I once pulled a mid-sized truck up my local neighborhood trail with my outback in a 12" blizzard. Either you literally have the worst tires ever designed, or the outback has gone downhill. My 2014 with all season tires (Continental) drove around every other vehicle in any snow storm. With winter tires, I would pass trucks by 20mph on the interstate in blinding snow. I get it, real world "testing". But this is really a gross mis-representation to anyone who has never driven a Subaru in snow. Also, consider the significant difference in normal force provided to the Ford's tires. Traction is a factor of normal force and coefficient of friction. Assuming the cf is constant (same tire), the Ford still gets more pure traction based on its weight and thereby normal force on each tire. Still a no-doubter for me, if I'm in any level of snow on pavement, I want a Subaru over any other vehicle. (For context, I currently own a Land Rover LR3 and Land Cruiser (LX 570) and miss my Subaru whenever the snow shows up.)
Such a ridiculous comparison. Mid-size SUV vs full size V8 truck, definitely fair!
As someone who has owned two Subarus, I am fully confident they can handle the majority of conditions. I've taken an old Forester through mountain winters in negative 20 temperatures, on unplowed snowy and icy roads and it got me to my destination without even barely struggling, and that was on all-seasons as well. I feel like these comparisons always paint Subaru in a bad light, but it's an unfair comparison to begin with. Yeah, you're not going to be ripping around in the snow like a maniac and stopping immediately like a giant truck would. But, the important question, WHO DRIVES LIKE THAT IN BAD WEATHER TO BEGIN WITH? If you do, you shouldn't drive. Subarus aren't invincible, they're not the best thing ever, I've had other cars, but in the case of bad weather, I trust Subaru every time.
I completely agree!! Side note that truck is actually a V6 now
@@quaranjones2359 3.5 Ecoboost right?
Fun video guys, thank you for producing it and all the other content that you put on here!
Awesome video as usual guys, keep up the great work.
"The truck does all the thinking for me. " Hopefully it will film in the future too, maybe it'll be better. Oh snap.
Having owned both I always had more confidence in my outback.
Almost 2 years old, and still a great video to watch!!! 🙂
I went from the all season tires to the General Grabber AT2s on my old Subaru outback. BEYOND noticeable change... I had snow deeper than the door trim and walked out of the snow with my outback with those tires, the car felt like a snow plow with snow pushing over the hood... then again it was a 98 outback without all the driver "assists", which neuter the car. I had ran through 2 sets of those tires on that car. I loved them so much I put them on my 96 RHD XJ. I can go places in 2WD in that jeep with those tires than I could only dream of in 4WD with all season tires on. I tell everyone that tires are more important than 4WD in the snow and mud.
Quite a clueless review. Having both the Subaru and a Ram, I would take the Subaru in most snowy situations because the Subaru is better balanced at speed than the pickup which is light in the back (unloaded) and can spin in curves. In their pointless 30 mph straight line test, the Raptor will win but I don't see straight roads on most mountains. Just ask any experienced pickup driver and they will weight their truck bed with a 300-500 lbs of weight just to keep the shiny side up. This video looks like a paid video for Ford.
Excellent point. And as i already stated in another comment i made. You put say Yoko Geolander AT G015's on a 3.6R Outback to be at least somewhat comparable to this truck's horsepower. And you have yourself a VERY VERY capable snow worthy crossover. That can do just as well as this truck did in the snow. So yeah TIRES MAKE THE DIFFERENCE folks.
I know not a lot of manufacturers give you guys cars right now but it would be awesome for you guys to show a front wheel drive on all seasons vs the outback on all season in the snow and show the difference....plus that test might have some brownie points with Subaru for you guys lol
Good fun guys! You'll treasure these times in years to come 👍
I've been enjoying the 4k videos. Looks great on my TV.
I feel that automatic vs CVT is playing a roll here as well.
Silly comparison. I’ve owned 2 Outbacks. Currently have a 2011. I also own a 2016 F-150 Larait . I live in Alaska. Ask me which one I drive in the snow and ice? The Subie WITH winter tires of course. Unbeatable.
Do you know if the Raptor tested had the standard "open" front differential or the optional Torsion differential up front? Not sure why the option is NOT the standard??? It is 4WD as compared to 3WD in really slick situations.
I love it, you guys have such a lot of snow already. We only got a little bit here in the Austrian Alps yet.
On my Outlander with S-AWC Traction Control OFF and LOCK mode ON are the way to go offroad and on snow.
where I live we drive in these conditions with 80hp fwd dacias
Same here, but with Volvos.
Kudos to you.
Where i live, we never have snow. Hot weather forever
And they are manual
Where I live, we don't even have cars. We walk in these conditions up-hill both ways.
Great video. I took it as a tire test and I was planning on 37” KO2 on the Jeep after my MT MTTZ’s wear out. You helped make my choice.
Any chance to see the new Forester reviewed by TFLCar (at snowy conditions) anytime soon? Of course equipped with proper snow tires.
Great video, excellent content for real world snow conditions.
2in lift with KO2s on the Outback... then do a face off
Otherwise this is pointless
I live in quebec i think its ridiculous that its not required to have winter tires in snowy areas of the us during winter, its illegal to use all season or summer tire during winter in quebec.
I'm in Quebec as well, and right on the Ontario border where we get to see people without snow tires and I can't understand how people choose to not use winter tires there ... you can get a used set on rims for so cheap. e.g. I picked up a used set of 265/70/17s on rims for a half ton ram for $400 and I'm on my third winter with them, next winter I'll likely need to replace 2 of them
@Kevin I. $700 and that should last at least 5 winters if you put them on early November and take them off early April! $140 a year is nothing; especially if you can prevent just one collision
i am glad i dont live in canaga?
It is ridiculous. I live in Maine, USA and people insist that their all seasons are fine. I always run Bridgestone Blizzaks on my Subaru.
I love blizzak, rocking ws-80 on my charger and it does fine, about cost, i really dont think its more expansive on the long run because both set will last longer...
Hi, your channel is one of the most entertaining to watch! Greetings from Finland. We have the law to put the snow tires and I would not be able drive like you do with the summer tires :-) Anyways great to watch. I need to drive today in the snow storm though, that's bad...
How well would the Subaru perform against the Ford raptor if the subaru had good Cooper snow tires on it ?
"irregardless" is not a word.
I used to work at an auto parts store and my boss always said "irregardless". My brother and I sort of teased him about it and asked what the difference is between regardless and irregardless. He was a cool guy, but seemed to have absolutely no clue what we were talking about.
Yes it is.. sorry WORD POLICE you got it wrong.
www.dictionary.com/e/is-irregardless-a-word/
@@Napster60 Did you read that link? Did you see it's described as a *nonstandard* word? What does that mean? From the same source, Dictionary.com, in this context *nonstandard* means "not conforming in pronunciation, grammar, vocabulary, etc., to the usage characteristic of and considered acceptable by most educated native speakers". Ie, not considered a real word by those with an IQ > ambient temperature. It's only acknowledgement comes from how commonly it's mistakenly used. Try using it in writing at work, if you're a professional. Try putting it somewhere in an essay, if you're a student. You'll get called out for it by people who know better immediately, as the link suggests. Fun article for people who write about vocabulary, though... I guess..
I'm not sure that the best defense for using a word is, "We've been wrong for so long that now we're right."
I came here just for this comment. Thank you!!
I really enjoy you guy's videos...great content
They really love this Subaru lol
I could have watched this content for twice the time. Colorado, snow, and 4x4s, plus the father,son thing. I cannot wait for the snow tire test on the Subaru. Thanks for filming the C8 Vetts in Oct. We found them for Andre. Be well. Wayne
I’m so glad you guys finally got a raptor
All the talk about tires, but no one points out that KO2's, along with most all terrain tires, are 3 Peak Mountain snow rated just like winter tires.
I love these snow testing videos. Very entertaining and it does give good insight to how both vehicles work. Great work
So, I'm making a trip in March from Austin, TX to Park City UT for skiing. Which vehicle should I use for drive? 2012 Ford 150 FX4, 2014 Ford Explorer Sport or 2018 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon. I was thinking the Explorer because of comfort for the kids.
It’s so very exciting to compare those different type of cars. But anywhere thanks 🤙🤙🤙
Aww Roman, avoid “irregardless”! 🤔😉
I love your reviews but Everytime you test the Subaru in snow you never put snow tires on it. Nit that I have seen. Of course the all terrain tires will beat all seasons. I would like to see some blizzak snow tires on the outback and re test.
Can't wait for the winter tyre test!
Hey tfl, this winter i plan on coming to colorado for a week or two and was wondering if a little fwd cruze will do fine up there or is ur required to have a more snow capable vehicle? Thanks
you're racing to indicated 30 mph from the speedo. The wheels can be going over 30mph, but the car might not actually be going that fast yet. It would be better with gps
Looking forward to see Snow Tires in the Subaru! I drive a Forester and snow tires make all the difference in snow.
Growing up with ATVs my entire life, I've treated all of my cars-trucks as toys. Racing, hooning, winter shenanigans. I've had RWD, AWD and 4X4. No matter what, tires in winter are the #1 factor on handling. I've had 23 cars and trucks and the 2 vehicles stick out in my mind. My 01 Ford Explorer was a best in deeps snow, it went through everything. My 07 Subi STI was a handling king for hooning, perfect handling. I would love to see a video where the Raptor has good winter tires.
Looking forward to the snow tire tests on the Outback
Snow whales exist, you just have to believe!
SNOW WHALE FOUND!!!!
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next up on this useless af obviously biased channel: which is faster across chatfield dam- a motorboat or the 2021 subaru crosstrek. WHICH WILL WIN!?!?!?!?
Love your content! Keep up the good work guys!!
BTW. It's regardless not irregardless. ;)
Had 07 and than 13 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4 , now bought 03 BMW X5 AWD , exited for winter but wish Portland OR was like Colorado, great video
Living in Alaska, I own a full size truck (GMC) and a Subaru (first a 2006 Forester and now a 2014 Legacy). For the snow conditions in this awesome video I take my truck. And I am really glad you showed the weakness of Subaru's traction control. I live on a steep hill and the first winter with my Legacy also encountered the traction control issue (no traction control with the older Forester). Subaru uses its break system for traction control. The end result as shown is pedal to the floor, in-ability to hill climb, and hot brakes when you reach your destination. Another TFL killer video!!!! Thanks TFL!!!
get snow tires then the Subaru will be fine
Oh I have studded Nokian Hakkapeliitta 8s on it.@@garrettsurfboards
should be BRAKE system unless your car was drinking coffee.
Turn off all traction and stability then you wont have a issue. Hold button for 10 secs. She will spin till your heart is content
I have snow tires (Bridstone Blizzak) on my Subaru Forester. It is a completely a different game. I do not understand why you are comparing two vehicles when one that have snow and the other have winter tire. Please do a test with Subaru with winter tires and the Ford Raptor with all season tires. That wound be interresting!
Yvan Caron Why? They are comparing them stock from the factory
If they are comparing those vehicles stock then they should compare them in the summer, on regular road, every day usage etc.
Why comparing two different vehicles. One who is made for heavy duty work and the other one oriented more on family utilisation. For me it doesn’t make sense. What would be the next comparison a Ford Raptor vs a Mazda 3? You don't need do a test to know that a vehicle with deep grove tires would be better in the snow then a vehicle with all summer tires. Take a Ford Fusion AWD with good winter tires and compare it to your Ford Raptor with regular summer tire and do the same test in the snow. You may be disappointed with the Raptor.
Same my forester is a beast in the snow decent with my all seasons
But AMAZING with my snows
#Subaru
@@yvanc3842
What kind of special are you??
Subaru Outback is one of (or maybe IS ) the best winter car you can buy.
Raptor is one of (or is the best as of now) the best winter pickup trucks you can buy..
They tested stock to stock from the factory car vs truck.
Are you SO TRIGGERED because your favorite brand (Subaru) didn't do well that you insist on better tires than stock when that was THE POINT OF THE TEST? WTF is wrong with you?
hell if you where paying ANY ATTENTION AT THE START OF THE VIDEO They said they are getting tires to test with! Grow the F$&# up.
No need to get upset!! Please read other comments.
Thanks for listening, the similar tire comparison would be very interesting.
I can't wait to see the tire test coming up, I have a 2019 Rav4 coming soon and will be looking for the best tire for it then.
Agree with some of the other commenters but also, you're driving on plowed roads so I wouldn't call that deep snow. I have this Subaru Outback with the Bridgestones and the biggest downside of these tires on snow and ice is their ability to stop. But you can drive through deep powder, over 12 inches, without a problem even on the stock tires so I'm not sure why you afraid of getting stuck.
Mine also came with Bridgestone Sport (something) and put on Micheline Crossclimate+ on just before winter hit and had zero issues with them or car.
@@GGMan I've debating getting winter tires but I work from home and live in the mid-atlantic so not sure it's worth the investment.
@@johnfarel3152 Where I live, I only get snow for a few week's, in total, over the winter period but if I was somewhere that snowed for months, winter tyres would be fitted.
Use the rebel in snow
Audilife the ram rebel is mostly just an appearance package
Ram Rebel is just a Ram with fancy looks and tires. In the snow you can do the same with any Ram if you just put the tires on it.. Raptor all day every day..
Raptor is better then ram all day
No the Rebel has different gearing, locking rear, different suspension, 2 inch lift, different tires and more ground clearance. Ya but it's just appearance. Lol please before you talk crap
Napster6 wrong. At least do a google search before you start talking smack...
I’m looking to buy a new vehicle as I move to Colorado. Any recommendations between the 2024 Subaru outback or the 2024 Kia sorento?
Can't wait for the snow tire comparison
Power Wagon vs Raptor in deep snow please.....
Why?
@@jimh.412 because those are two trucks I am shopping right now.
@@richfarfugnuven6308 They are really 2 different trucks. A Power Wagon is bigger and bulkier and isn't probably the best for daily driving but can tow more. The Raptor is more sportier and fun to drive. If you're not using it to do work with everyday then nothing beats the Raptor but due to the awesome suspension they aren't really made to be doing towing and hauling everyday. You're not going to see too many Raptors on a construction site but you'll have alot more fun with it. 👍
@@jimh.412 I agree up to a point. I live in CO and can't high speed desert run on a regular basis. The trails I'm on are usually more rocky. There lies my conundrum.
@@richfarfugnuven6308 Well at least it's a good conundrum (just very expensive). Can't go wrong really with either truck. I'm a Ford guy but I like the Ram second and wouldn't mind a Power Wagon either.
With good snow tires on both the Subaru is gonna take the win in everything but the deepest conditions... Looking forward to the video with snow tires.
OH ya i think you just defeated MANY DECADES of people, companies and governments buying trucks for winter conditions with your statement. They should have been buying 4WD cars.. not trucks. Thanks for your post i think companies all over the world will switch now because of your brilliant words. *FACEPALM* You Twat..
You have to be kidding me..
Trucks out preform cars in low traction situations and have been ever sense... FOREVER.. and they will continue too despite your completely IGNORANT and INCORRECT post..
Napster6 I would respond to that but you clearly lack the intellect to comprehend... You should check out my “snow plow CAR” playlist on my channel...😉
Another fun,unscientific video. Keep it up guys and I can't wait until the snow tire test.
Hey I Live near Keystone and we have a 2018 Lexus RX and going though Breckenridge it’s an ease in my opinion. Great review.
I love you guys and your content so please take my comment as meaning to be helpful. Irregardless is a double negative and therefore not a word. Say regardless. That is correct. Forgive me. I know that has nothing to do with the subject at hand. I just hear it so often. BTW, I am really looking forward to the video that you have coming where you change the tires on the Subaru Outback. I have owned an Outback for a year now and I love it. Thank you for great content.
Thumb's up, Monica,..me too! About as silly to say, " inflammable" isn't it? ( according to what I was taught,..that would be 'it won't burn at all'!)
I like this video regardless of the fact Roman said "irregardless"!
@@jamesbeaman6337 Good point, so do I actually,.....I'm just being 'nit--picky' about his choice of a 'non-word'!
I searched the comments to see if anyone else heard that! lol
@@dylansaunders8312then someone took your money and you need to report it to the police.
As good as a Subaru is, this is still like comparing a little league baseball team to the World Series champs. I'd get vehicles in the same class and then make the comparison.
I'd like to see a Chevy Colorado LT vs. the Subaru. You found the key, though, you have to turn OFF the Traction Control to make any progress in very slick conditions.
@@jedironin380 you are right..it is mostly useless as far as I am concerned.
Jack Z, that maybe true but I wasn't discussing cost, I was just pointing out the strange comparison plus you mentioned Audi's. Ever look at the cost of some of those babies, if people are driving certain Audi models then $80,000 isn't out of their price realm.
It's amazing how much traction control can interfere when you get stuck. I got stuck last year after i slid into a ditch. With traction control off, i was able to move, but not enough to get out, and the worst part was i have a fwd car with summer tires. However, once i turned off the traction control, i just powered out of that thing within a few seconds.
Look forward to seeing KO 2’s on the outback or some tires that are comparable. Good video!
This is a pointless test...the subaru has not so great all seasons...the truck has over twice the power, 4WD, and all terrain tires...the truck is always going to win
As they stated they are testing what comes from the factory. Why do people always try to find the negative shit
@@williamarden5441 I get that they are testing from the factory...but testing a raptor...a purpose built extreme off-road vehicle....against the outback which is a light duty off-roader at best...isn't very relevant...most people can take a glance at these two and understand that the raptor will win...the previous F150 vs outback test was a much closer and relevant comparison between CUVs and trucks
Id rather see how the Outback does against other vehicles in its class...or how the raptor holds up against a Z71 silverado or Ram Rebel
@@davidnacy1324 I can see their point though. If a little Outback can somewhat gang with a Raptor that's a awesome little car. I can see where you come from, but also see their side as well
Who in their right mind drives cars in winter without winter tires on?
this and that reviews because the title of the video is “what’s the best blizzard fighter”. If they had used the same model tires(regardless of snow or all season) then it would be a legitimate test. As it stands, it’s just a video to keep interest in the channel and the tfl name.
I can see the point of the tests but I really don't see the point of the comparison. By that I mean comparing the Subaru with all-season tires to the Raptor with very aggressive all-terrain tires. I can see doing a before/after of the Outback with stock all-seasons and then with aggressive winter/snow tires and comparing the differences in acceleration, stopping, and overall handling performance. But I just don't see the point with this particular comparison test other than to just beat up on the Outback with the Raptor.
Did you watch the first 90 seconds of the video where they stated, they are comparing from the factory Stock to Stock tires?
Because people are ignorant enough to drive with the crap the factory provides.
Since there's lack of legislation the manufacturers sells cars with all-seasons
to avoid liability. Cause they're all seasons and if you crash or kill someone it's
on you.
@@PeterOekvist Why would it not be on you if you crash and kill somebody? 🤔
@@jimh.412 That's not what i said.
@@PeterOekvist Sure it is. Learn how to drive dummy.
Great job guys. Don't worry about the negative comments keep up the good work.
Next up, which has better fuel efficiency, a Subaru Outback or Cannondale Synapse?
I look forward to your snow tire test on the Subie.
rollingrecliner That ain’t stock
could you please use winter tires next time. I mean is such amount of snow you really should be driving winter tires.
Looking forward to see the outback snow tire review. Should be fun. Just ordered Falken wildpeak at3s for mine. Also the traction control is a hindrance all the time. Nice to take it off and get some oversteer.
Roman is that a classic vintage mountain light parka you have? I have one from new in 1995. You don’t see them too often.
Next video that ya do this please put the same tires
By your own admission, "it's all about tires." That being the case, why even bother with this comparison until you level the playing field. I'm losing respect for your videos and their content.
But it ain’t stock. So what you’re describing isn’t a really good comparison
@@14s0cc3r14 Sure it is, no one who drives in that climate frequently is going to keep all seasons on their Subaru
@@fredothechimp Sadly...that is not true. Just read the comments in this video, lots of people willing to have crappy tires...in the name of "Freedom".
@@sharpuslf No they don't. Majority of the comments suggest having winter tyres in a snow packed areas like this. Where did you get the idea most ppl willing to have crappy tires?
@@441meatloaf I said "lots", not "most". Where people srill have a choice, a little less than 1/2 choose to use them. www.tracanada.ca/files/TRAC_winter_tire_report_2016-compressed2.pdf
I drive a '01 Subaru Outback Limited (Sedan) and love driving it in the snow.. But they should have equipped snow tires on that '19 Outback in the vid.. would have made a HUGE difference. TBH, all-seasons on an outback will still get you by, but an Outback with dedicated winter tires is an amazing fun time.. night and day difference!
I have a 16 1500 Silverado and I have 22s on it with m/s tires they are Bridgestone, and when I’m coming from Denver to the ski resorts And my truck end slipping even with 4x4 on. Doesn’t do it all the time. Is it because I have bigger rim causes me to lose some traction? That’s what one of the guys from discount tire told me. Thoughts?
Osvaldo it’s because a pickup has a lighter rear end. Simply put, the front end gets more traction because there is more weight over the front tires. A lot of people put weight in the bed at the tailgate to counteract this. Try bags of sand. I have a Tahoe with 22 inch wheels and the same bridge stones as your truck and a zr2 with snowflake rated duratracs. Both are great in the snow however the light rear end in the Colorado allows it to slip a lot more than the Tahoe. I went over the same highway pass you mentioned in the Tahoe last month under “traction law” and had zero issues.