@ethhxnK coming from someone who's played console siege since year 4 and just started playing PC siege, I honestly have to agree with you. I'd even argue recoil control is way easier on console. Only advantage MnK has is the ability to acquire targets faster and make fast adjustments
@@agent_aphelion even on mnk on console it’s not easier than controller cuz it’s easier to move at the same speed on controller compared to a mouse and also if ur using an LMG u will run out of mouse space
I think Gardfield is forgetting that everyone on controller isn’t a TH-camr capable of gathering elite teams at the snap of a finger to be able to outplay a MNK’s
@@jarrettcouture5050 not incapable but when you are a stack that has never played together and are already at a disadvantage it makes it way harder but its not like the other team didnt have mnks either
@@jarrettcouture5050 clearly have not seen 2.0 champs its about how many games you play...if you stat track the not top 100 team majority of them reached champ just purely on the number of games played with low to mid kds even in 2.0 which means the gunskill and the ability to adapt lacks, i you play 300 games and are barely in champ mmr then your not really adapting and more just loosing. I get your probably going off pc champ playstyle but on console its just playtime to reach champ
@@killxtsy mnk beats game sense 💀it’s not comparable they’re champ mnk players it wasn’t really fair to begin with should’ve been controller only and properly hosted it was clearly just thrown together
I do think its funny that Garfield said mnk on console doesn't make a diff but as soon as Eayxu switch to mnk he pooped off. I wonder if you would argue like this garfield if you would play a cheater on PC with Solid softaim and loose even though you haven't played very good in that game. Just nonsense acting like cheating on console doesn't make a diff in game
Rank definitely matters a bit. Ranked 2.0 had to get an adjustment and be around for a season or 2, but yes it matters to a degree. Your hidden mmr definitely usually lines up with your rank for the most part. If you actually play enough
dude my highest mmr rank is Gold 2 i average a diamond or champ every other game(yes i solo que), trust me hidden mmr is broken or apparently im the best gold 2 in the game of siege😂😂
20:27 they need to patch docs stem, if he gets down nd uses his stem it shouldnt be full recovery immediately, hibana shot him then stopped bc she thought that was enough to kill, well it shouldve been imo
all people crying about mnk must not know how deep console goes at top ranks nobody except for a short like 5/10% can get top 100 champ legit on controller now. most are mnk is what it is blame ubisoft
well....getting top 100 is more like whoever plays more, with ranked 2.0 you dont really que the best of the best every game, yes mnk is up there but not because controller can't compete I have played against 2 of the top 100s in this video and have won and lost to both I (controller) but mnk against a controller does make it harder no argument against that
Mnk does matter and that’s because they can then crazily quick, flick people, control recoil and SO much more, they may need the awareness but the is a different a huge one at that, that is why we cannot play together, you will always be lower than an Mnk. It takes awareness yess but unless it’s a short range fight (even then you may not kill them), it’s a 95% chance they will kill you. Mnk does matter
I always hate when ppl say "mnk is not that much u need game sense too".. one of my friends started cheating with mnk and even if his game sense is trash he has like 4.0 kd.. in this meta (before season 9) game sense is 35% aim is 65%
The top 100 are definitely cheating and the rest probably are too. So no, it doesn't matter. I've always been a solo player and always hit and stayed in plat. With 2.0 I'm in emerald but I still see myself as a plat player amd that's where the BEST CONTROLLER players are.
Lmao. If the "best controller players" are stuck in emerald, I guess that makes Truman, Braeeito, Cheesepie37, ST0MPN and alot more known controller champs not the best controller players😂
@@Mogul20478 100%💀 as much as I hate to say it cuz I’m a console guy, our side would get absolutely obliterated if the pc side brings out their top guys (Spoit, oozie, beaulo, etc like bro said)
I definitely think them using mnk is giving them the confidence to beat them tho, if you had had some other mnk users on the other side who weren’t too 100 I think it’d be a completely different game. Mnk users have this stupid confidence that also cheaters have bc they know they can aim better and they know that the enemies are at a disadvantage. You can say all day, “ blah blah blah they just have to outplay them” but that’s honestly a mute point when you put 4 mnk users against 5 controller champs. Like it’s just dumb bc rounds would play out completely different if they didn’t have the confidence on stupid angles where normal controller kids wouldn’t have that much of an advantage. Also, it is cheating and in order for people to take console more seriously, we shouldn’t be giving a platform to people who are mnk on console. It’s cheating bro. It doesn’t matter.
Also the fact that you’re giving a platform to people who cheat in a video game is stupid. The simple fact is that they’re cheating and shouldn’t be given a platform at all.
Just for your Mnk comments now I don’t care about your opinions lol gunfights are part of play style. Don’t you think its stupid that you have to work harder on the MnK user that has improved accuracy and ability to snap. Those are already 2 heavy advantages against you and advantages are everything is seize. Map knowledge doesn’t matter because 8/10 times, the MnK will out gun you.👎
See, I only have a problem with the fact that the top 100 literally have to cheat in order to be there. Let alone, they get defended for it by saying their play style. It has been PROVEN MANY TIMES that controller Champions are equivalent to Emerald on m&k. It's not their play style, it's not cuz they're working together, they're literally cheating in order to win.
the other team can make twice as many mistakes if their on mnk and still come out on top, i think that’s what u don’t understand, even tho they’re playing together they still making more mistakes than the controller champs, so….
rank doesn’t matter you can have the iq of a rock but have impeccable aim and get champ noways. Plus i’ve seen plats/emeralds smoke some champs in ranked
That wasn't my point. I in way support MNK but for a lot of players they blame mnk on the reason why their bronze-gold. My point is if you play with your team as a team you will succeed
Bro doc you sounding more like a clown than anyone I’ve ever seen saying it’s not the mnk I have yet to see you do good on console vs some mnk players… it’s not 100% just mnk but that’s fasho 70% of the problem cause aiming is the problem your more accurate able to look around a lot faster and more precise than controller id like to see you in the video vs top champ mnk players
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pc champs using controlers vs console champs on mnk?
Wut
that is just completely unfair lmao
@@itsbeanic🤖
literally the smartest idea ever
@@ytflixtu9101 honestly deserved you’re right sorry have a good day
Should change the title to 5 console champs vs 4 cheaters
facts
This video was so garbage
@@kaleoverton2716 too much coping with “you can’t say mnk is an advantage”, okay, then why are all the top 100 champs ximing?
@@BR3AD_YThuh???
@@BR3AD_YTim lost
One thing I would recommend is making it more obvious who is who I kept forgetting what team was what
I agree.....I think he usually puts a name where "blue team" and "orange team" is...I wonder...must've just forgot this time
1 hr of Garfield defending cheaters
lol
Mnk had 100% impact when it comes to recoil control pixel shots and turn ons when someone shoots back
Recoil isn’t easier on Mnk
@ethhxnK coming from someone who's played console siege since year 4 and just started playing PC siege, I honestly have to agree with you. I'd even argue recoil control is way easier on console. Only advantage MnK has is the ability to acquire targets faster and make fast adjustments
@@agent_aphelion even on mnk on console it’s not easier than controller cuz it’s easier to move at the same speed on controller compared to a mouse and also if ur using an LMG u will run out of mouse space
I think Gardfield is forgetting that everyone on controller isn’t a TH-camr capable of gathering elite teams at the snap of a finger to be able to outplay a MNK’s
r6 is a team based game you act like controller players are incapable of being better than an mnk player, your glazing mnk at its finest.
@@jarrettcouture5050 not that he’s glazing but playing against at least a stack of 3 xims is already hard enough as is
@@jarrettcouture5050 not incapable but when you are a stack that has never played together and are already at a disadvantage it makes it way harder but its not like the other team didnt have mnks either
@@calvinelifritz2411 champs are known for teamwork and adapting, if they were on kbm it would be the same outcome
@@jarrettcouture5050 clearly have not seen 2.0 champs its about how many games you play...if you stat track the not top 100 team majority of them reached champ just purely on the number of games played with low to mid kds even in 2.0 which means the gunskill and the ability to adapt lacks, i you play 300 games and are barely in champ mmr then your not really adapting and more just loosing. I get your probably going off pc champ playstyle but on console its just playtime to reach champ
I don’t really feel as though it was even fair as the top 100s are all pretty much non legit
The mnk is the gun fight part. Not game sense. The top champs have more experience and game sense and situational awareness
@@killxtsy mnk beats game sense 💀it’s not comparable they’re champ mnk players it wasn’t really fair to begin with should’ve been controller only and properly hosted it was clearly just thrown together
Both teams had xims
@@nando100x maybe I didn’t watch the full vid but the normal champs were not as good it simply wasn’t held correctly
I do think its funny that Garfield said mnk on console doesn't make a diff but as soon as Eayxu switch to mnk he pooped off.
I wonder if you would argue like this garfield if you would play a cheater on PC with Solid softaim and loose even though you haven't played very good in that game.
Just nonsense acting like cheating on console doesn't make a diff in game
soft aim is the same as xim ? 🤣🤣🤣 regular champs had 3 xims and we had 4. they just suck
EAYXU was mnk the whole time, and also xim is not comparable to soft aim. both teams where cheating
He was saying that the way they were playing was not due to MnK, but to lose playstyles and lack of coordination.
xim is for shitters anyways regardless. its not a flex lol@@faided_
The amount of kbnm in this video is disgusting. hopefully they ban xim in the future
There were only 3 mnks. I’m controller but I agree
@@rhattinonly 3🤦🏼♂️
Rank definitely matters a bit. Ranked 2.0 had to get an adjustment and be around for a season or 2, but yes it matters to a degree. Your hidden mmr definitely usually lines up with your rank for the most part. If you actually play enough
dude my highest mmr rank is Gold 2 i average a diamond or champ every other game(yes i solo que), trust me hidden mmr is broken or apparently im the best gold 2 in the game of siege😂😂
20:27 they need to patch docs stem, if he gets down nd uses his stem it shouldnt be full recovery immediately, hibana shot him then stopped bc she thought that was enough to kill, well it shouldve been imo
hibana didn’t stop bc it was enough to kill both his guns were unloaded
Hibana ran out of ammo
ngl they look like they was just playing with them the whole time that’s just messed up
garfield had us throw map 2 for content 😅
LMAO
all people crying about mnk must not know how deep console goes at top ranks nobody except for a short like 5/10% can get top 100 champ legit on controller now. most are mnk is what it is blame ubisoft
well....getting top 100 is more like whoever plays more, with ranked 2.0 you dont really que the best of the best every game, yes mnk is up there but not because controller can't compete I have played against 2 of the top 100s in this video and have won and lost to both I (controller) but mnk against a controller does make it harder no argument against that
Okay then let’s see Garfield v Xim players if it’s not that big of an advantage
Mnk does matter and that’s because they can then crazily quick, flick people, control recoil and SO much more, they may need the awareness but the is a different a huge one at that, that is why we cannot play together, you will always be lower than an Mnk. It takes awareness yess but unless it’s a short range fight (even then you may not kill them), it’s a 95% chance they will kill you. Mnk does matter
As someone who used to use xim, recoil is easier on controller
@@ethhxnK personally I’ve played pc and 9 other people I know do too, it’s the easiest thing on pc
19:19 "that guys sense was fast"🤡🤡
Ggs. Thanks for the opportunity Garfield I had a lot of fun and enjoyed this. I’d love to be an any further videos.
I slammed ur team
Bro would you shut up. Mnk is a huge difference like what are you talking about
So they aren’t good enough to play pc and decide to ruin console and use mnk
I always hate when ppl say "mnk is not that much u need game sense too".. one of my friends started cheating with mnk and even if his game sense is trash he has like 4.0 kd.. in this meta (before season 9) game sense is 35% aim is 65%
bro just doesnt have a 4 kd 😭
@@pattpattpat 4.0 kd on mnk is literally nothing 💀
The top 100 are definitely cheating and the rest probably are too. So no, it doesn't matter. I've always been a solo player and always hit and stayed in plat. With 2.0 I'm in emerald but I still see myself as a plat player amd that's where the BEST CONTROLLER players are.
Lmao. If the "best controller players" are stuck in emerald, I guess that makes Truman, Braeeito, Cheesepie37, ST0MPN and alot more known controller champs not the best controller players😂
@@expoit9059stompn plays xim too and brae is also xim 😂
@@faided_ Not all the time tho and both are top 10 rollers....
@@expoit9059 😭😭😭😭
@@faided_stompn not mnk 😭
what camo is that the twitch had on round 1 4:29
It’s call LEÓN FURIOSO it looks clean but goes for around 3600-10000 credits
@@Ryyxr thanks bro gonna buy it lmao
@@daddyalfie2366 lol good luck prices went up sadly
I love this type of video and think it would be awesome to do with viewers.
Do not use the Father's name in vain. Repent of your sins!
Dont give cheaters the time of day bro…
Ranked dose not matter at all ranked 2.0 means nothing
Is this console or pc lobby?
console half the players are mnk tho it’s what top console is like anyway.
So bieng i saw 9 xbox logos there should not be any kbm players on console ! Mnk on console is cheating
5 pc champs vs 5 console champs, but try to get known ppl (spoit, beaulo, oozie, etc)
Jynxzi, Stomp, Mingo, Ricci, and Aidan would be an elite stack for the console side
@@deltoocold6592 Console would get smacked most likely.
@@Mogul20478 100%💀 as much as I hate to say it cuz I’m a console guy, our side would get absolutely obliterated if the pc side brings out their top guys (Spoit, oozie, beaulo, etc like bro said)
Bro what? Thats not even a video unless they script it 😂
Garfield what water bottle do you use?
Why not just play pc if you trynna play mnk ion get it
They got shit on so much they had to cheat
@@accrit they said they getting banned in the new update we’ll see 🤣🤣
47:58 i actually said wtf out loud what is blud saying
4:23 is the wildest shit iv heard
You should do ranked 1.0 only champs vs ranked only 2.0 champs
I definitely think them using mnk is giving them the confidence to beat them tho, if you had had some other mnk users on the other side who weren’t too 100 I think it’d be a completely different game. Mnk users have this stupid confidence that also cheaters have bc they know they can aim better and they know that the enemies are at a disadvantage. You can say all day, “ blah blah blah they just have to outplay them” but that’s honestly a mute point when you put 4 mnk users against 5 controller champs. Like it’s just dumb bc rounds would play out completely different if they didn’t have the confidence on stupid angles where normal controller kids wouldn’t have that much of an advantage. Also, it is cheating and in order for people to take console more seriously, we shouldn’t be giving a platform to people who are mnk on console. It’s cheating bro. It doesn’t matter.
Also the fact that you’re giving a platform to people who cheat in a video game is stupid. The simple fact is that they’re cheating and shouldn’t be given a platform at all.
Can’t wait till mnk is gone next season
Just for your Mnk comments now I don’t care about your opinions lol gunfights are part of play style. Don’t you think its stupid that you have to work harder on the MnK user that has improved accuracy and ability to snap. Those are already 2 heavy advantages against you and advantages are everything is seize. Map knowledge doesn’t matter because 8/10 times, the MnK will out gun you.👎
u make r6 worth watching
Normal champions I think I saw 2 are using mnk as well
Garf "im gonna let chat pick" also garf "Fuck chat and fuck the votes"
top champs are coordinated 5 stacks, mid champs are average solo-trio que stacks
how they top 100 banning thatcher on attack first???? LOLOL
Cuz they’re xim
9:45 a little ironic he’s a lot more confident and he switched to a xim 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
See, I only have a problem with the fact that the top 100 literally have to cheat in order to be there. Let alone, they get defended for it by saying their play style. It has been PROVEN MANY TIMES that controller Champions are equivalent to Emerald on m&k. It's not their play style, it's not cuz they're working together, they're literally cheating in order to win.
25:01 Most MnK movement ever
mumu is cracked i’ve played him before
the other team can make twice as many mistakes if their on mnk and still come out on top, i think that’s what u don’t understand, even tho they’re playing together they still making more mistakes than the controller champs, so….
Been watching alot more of your videos recently. Cheaters are killing my will to play the game but this content is really carrying siege atm
I'm a top 100 bronze player lmao
rank doesn’t matter you can have the iq of a rock but have impeccable aim and get champ noways. Plus i’ve seen plats/emeralds smoke some champs in ranked
5 controller champs 5 diamond mnk NO COMs MNK?
I just started the game and I’m diamond, I 1v1d a top 100 champ and beat him 7-2 lmao
the gn guys are xim
Actually ur commentary was good
yo, i have a stack full of bronze + silvers and i genuinely think we could beat a plat stack if u would down to host.
Ximmers especially the DOA kid everyone in that clan is 😂
It’s my dad😊
Eaxyu was also xim
Top 100 players.... who cheated to get there
controller players gotta understand, you can’t compete in the highest ranks against mnk
I love seeing XIM
sorry garf, giving these cheaters a platform is crazy to me, 5 minutes in, I can't keep watching. These mnks wouldn't make it on pc.
20:25
bruh
ahahahaha that kid is trash
Imagine plane-
5 smartest xims
All console is just abusing the system, kids can’t even admit to cheating. Remember it’s just a game 😂
Top 100 = No life
No
the way you say fenrir makes me angry
Put me in the champ stack coach
PC is just not relatable . Need more controller siege love . There’s so many more controller players then PC.. especially for siege
so many brain dead comments mnk is an advantage regardless of rank or team play
Caseoh is really defending cheating smh
Stompn solos these cheaters
This dude is a complete clown m&k will always have advantage over controller on r6.
That wasn't my point. I in way support MNK but for a lot of players they blame mnk on the reason why their bronze-gold. My point is if you play with your team as a team you will succeed
Complete out of touch pc player. Mnk makes the biggest difference. They are more confident because they know they can’t lose a 1 while cheating
Im champ on controller on xbox
Bro defending cheaters man has no shame them champs are losers get a pc
Bro doc you sounding more like a clown than anyone I’ve ever seen saying it’s not the mnk I have yet to see you do good on console vs some mnk players… it’s not 100% just mnk but that’s fasho 70% of the problem cause aiming is the problem your more accurate able to look around a lot faster and more precise than controller id like to see you in the video vs top champ mnk players