No One EVER Crushed Magnus This Hard!
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Suleymenov, Alisher (2512) - Carlsen, Magnus (2839)
Qatar Masters (chess24.com) [2] 2023.10.12
E12 Queen's Indian, Petrosian system
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.a3 Ba6 5.Qc2 Bb7 6.Nc3 c5 7.e4 cxd4 8.Nxd4 Bc5 9.Nf3 Nc6 10.b4 Be7 11.Bb2 Qb8 12.Rd1 O-O 13.Be2 d6 14.O-O Rc8 15.Rfe1 Bf8 16.Bf1 Ne7 17.Nb5 Ne8 18.Ng5 Ng6 19.e5 d5 20.Qb3 Be7 21.Nxf7 Kxf7 22.cxd5 Bxd5 23.Rxd5 exd5 24.Qxd5+ Kf8 25.Nd4 Nf4 26.Qf3 Kg8 27.Qxf4 Qb7 28.Nf5 b5 29.Bxb5 Bf8 30.Bc4+ Kh8 31.Nh6
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Magnus Carlsen and Hikaru Nakamura top the field for the Qatar Masters, a 9-round Swiss tournament taking place from 11-20 October 2023 in Lusail, Qatar. The prize fund is $110,000.
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This is an immortal game , never seen anything like this in a modern era and Magnus Carlsen at the other end. What an amazing game.
Magnus must've felt some vibrations.
@@Zero-ef4sc 😳
One of the best games I’ve ever seen.
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Magnus paralyzed all of his pieces with his queen stuck on b8 . The queen watched the slaughter
...while Magnus watched the watch
Niceee😂
@@000aleph So... should this game go on Tik Tok?
Thats it
@@davidanderson_surrey_bc nah, this is too based to go on the clock app
Imagine crushing arguably the best player in history in this style. Absolutely amazing!
Happens very rarely...this young man will cherish this forever!
This would be almos like when Magnus played Kasparov in 2004, but he mated him@@@ Watch out for this guy in the coming years! He plays with such maturity!
Yeah, just a shame Magnus had to sully the victory by mentioning the watch and talking about cheating in the same tweets. I know he's not familiar with losing but there's a right way to be and that wasn't it.
@@TheDandonian same as with Hans?
2:25 "Pawn to b4, strongest move in any position..." This always makes me laugh, the way he says these things😂
😂😂I remember quotes like that and apply it to my own games (I am bleeding ELO)
I agree, even at first move 1.b4! Sokolsky
@@ozmorse7250LMAO
Or "look, this is just disgusting" 😀
This has to be up there with Kasparov getting totally massacred by Ivanchuk in that particular beatdown. That was sublime
No way lol
Absolutely
Positional vs tactical. Both are badass but this one is easier for us non-GMs to understand
Watch is no good excuse..
Magnus queen got a first class front chair watching the king humiliation and slaughtering. ...Qb8 was the loosing move.
Wow! Give Suleymenov the Morphy head!
Exactly!
oh right! agadmator totally missed it.
Use #suggestion.
A big thanks to Magnus for playing Qb8 and allowing this masterpiece to happen.
I don't get it - what masterpiece? The guy is just making standard moves with basic attacking ideas and Magnus isn't responding to any of them. There is a wilful blindness to Magnus' play, or, another way to explain it, Magnus wasn't interested in playing someone who might be cheating.
@@thomasdequincey5811 yeah.... wasn't interested. and cheating. Every player who beat a magnus playing like a 2400 is a cheater. No one can beat magnus if they aren't a famous player ofc... Not even hans cheated in that game he won tbh. Had there been a single clue or evidence, hans wouldn't be able to put his arse on a chair in front of a chess set again.
Is it not possible to lose to an inferior player ever? If the claim of cheating is analysed, the moment Qb3 was extremely crucial, so Alisher could have found f4 using his watch. Magnus himself took nothing away from his victory, although he confessed that his mind wandered into speculation. And so what you call standard attacking moves, Agadmator calls a 'tactical headache', was played over the board.
@@thomasdequincey5811 nah qb8 was an obviously trash move that led to this, it was basically playing without a queen and magnus rightfully got crushed by this masterpiece.
Buddy...how often do you see a game like this played against a World Champion? And possibly the goat of chess? It hardly ever happens this bad....players don't usually have the balls to play like this against Magnus, please show me another game of Magnus losing this badly so fast....@@thomasdequincey5811
What an incredible attacking game... the final position is just insane. All of Magnus' pieces doing nothing and Alisher's bishops from hell giving the king not a hope or a prayer. If you didn't know who was playing who you'd never guess Magnus had black.
None of Magnus’s pieces or pawns are even forward of the starting two lines in the final position!
😂😂😂I like your comment...
The Queen's Indian has been dead at the highest level due to Alpha but I'm sure this loss is just gonna bury it now
Wrong. A0 was a strong engine but modern engines are stronger, and modern engines say the queen's indian is fine.
A0 crushed stockfish in these types of openings because SF 8's positional understanding was bad, not because these openings are refuted.
Funnily, Ding won twice this year using QID, but Magnus lost both time using QID
@@ME0WMEREyes stockfish NNUE 14 is much stronger and would honestly crush alpha
There is no such thing refuted,
Its all about proper positional game
@@theepicman8160 we're at sf 16 now lol
So many tactics it simply overwhelmed me and I love tactics as I play puzzles almost daily. Poor Magnus xD
Exactly my feelings that was a lot of complicated tactics I do puzzles on the regular as well some of these tactics were beyond my comprehension I guess it does take a GM to figure these things out
Do you solve puzzles on lichesss?
Poor Magnus? F*** Magnus, look at that sorry excuse tweet after getting murdered by someone 300+ rating points below him. He blasts rap music bull shits with all kinds of people talking around him while playing blitz in Title Tuesday, but sees a watch, sh*ts his pants, and can't focus on a game. How pathetic, he needs to take his losses like a man. He needs a good ass kicking in a bar. Or library.
He was cheating. Last person recently to beat him this hard was Hans. Qatar 🇶🇦 has cheating problems, and Magnus knows the game too well. Besides, TACTICS? Last I remember getting beat this bad is just playing agains the computer. That kids face looks like a cheater. 🤣
What does white play if black plays Qe7?
Don't you just get the feeling that Fabi is right: the kids are coming! Magnus' slow play got punished badly in this game. When you put your pieces all on the back rank and bunched up you are asking for trouble and this kid knew exactly how to punish it! A brilliancy no doubt. Funny, but I just watched your video on Levon Aronian's crushing game against Magnus about two days ago as well.
I think Fabi is right, but about something else he said.
Once the doubt creeps in it doesnt metter whether the opponent is cheating, you just wont be able to play the same. Thats why organizers have to be strict.
@@EPE444don't give excuse cheating and other nonsense when u lose accept graciously. Magnus us not god he played very poorly got hammered. Others also put effort he is also gm. Magnus only talks cheating when loses pathetic
It is just a repeat of 13 year old Magnus vs Vishwanathan, Kasparov, etc. The times change and there will be stronger players at younger ages basically forever.
Alisher is 23. I don't know what compelled Antonio to use such a dated and misleading picture.
@@alanyajmorgan to everyone reading this, there are many 20+ year olds with the appearance of teenagers. how old someone "looks" means nothing in the end.
Edit: also, this wasn't about Alisher, specifically. but in general.
This game is so brilliant, every move Alisher makes comes with so many threats it’s brutal. Amazing analysis as always!
I knew Magnus was lost when Alisher played b4.
I think Alisher deserves a morphy head. I'm out words describing this wonderful game, not to mention he is playing against the GOAT with a really big difference in rating but in the end he completely destroyed magnus in style like just, wow. Absolutely incredible.
MORPHY HEAD FOR ALISHER #suggestion
I feel bad about abusing the suggestion tag sorry agad
Magnus isn’t the GOAT, Fischer is and this loss proves Magnus isn’t the GOAT
@@DownfallHitlerParodyrelax kid
This is finally a brilliant, creative game from a kid who probably plays as much by intuition, creativity and courage as he does by theory. What a great game. The new guard has arrived.
hmm, kinda like Hans? Weird how one get accused of cheating and the other doesnt.
New guard? Lmao he's 23
These top gm's know when they are playing against stockfish, and when they are not@@acct5910
@@acct5910 that would be because Hans played the top moves in no time while neither appearing focused nor serious and Alisher played a brilliant game but did not always find the top moves even when the moves he played were insanely well themselves
@@mathiasprehofer5184 how does one appear focused and serious? sounds mad that he got beat by someone who didn't "look like he was trying that hard" the disrespect.
Indeed Morphyesque! This will probably make Magnus abandon the Queen’s Indian defense altogether (better suited for Karpov). The queenside bishop suppose to counter white’s center from advancing but the E pawn advances anyway and starts the whole avalanche that collapses black’s kingside.
shut up
I was incredibly surprised to see him use it. Maybe it will humble him a bit.
Magnus' choosing questionable openings to taunt his opponents, "knowing" he will still beat them is starting to backfire.
Exactly.
words from pathetic weak player mindset
Queens Indian is hardly questionable, and the line that puts it under significant duress is certainly not 4.a3
I mean it's hard to beat a GM who's trying to draw in a classical game, even for the very top players. They kinda have to play questionable moves to get a chance at winning, I doubt it's simply taunting
he also lost to anish giri with this opening. idk whats with the magnus and this queens indian defense
Agad with a straight face😐:"Magnus is at the "
14:19
😂😂
Agad has a great way with words, makes me 😂 sometimes
Time stamp please
@@0598488 14:19
"There is only one word I can use to describe this game, and that is Morphyesque" *plays d4*
(16:20) 'No need to mention me in the video'. I love how Agad reads the ridiculous Patreon names with no facial expression. I can't stop laughing. Well done good Sir!
Not to mention, the game is so energizing that now my plan to 'Go to Bed after this Last Video' got crushed like Magnus.
Sometimes he flinches when reading ridiculous things. th-cam.com/video/i3zo9xtjlSU/w-d-xo.html
Open tournaments are poison to 2650+ players, since they may find themselves against a young, motivated, underrated, and fully prepped IM or GM who has nothing to lose. Magnus lost today. 2690+ rated Fedoseev is getting crushed and will likely lose to a 2298 Indian FM. Pragg's IM sister Vaishali beat a ~2600 GM. Etc.
Who did the sister beat
@@Speedster___ me, but it was all consensual
@@Speedster___ Sethuraman. Which is funny because she recently lost to a 1550 rated Korean in the women asian team games. This the same Vaishali who has an OTB win against both Sam Sevian and Gukesh.
Good. It's good for chess that these guys get beaten by so-called lesser players. They are only human after all.
All the more reason for top GMs to play these tournaments. True test for them not knowing what to expect and show pure chess skills!
I like the comparison to Morphy. It was surgical. This is why I laugh at people who say some of the old guys could not compete today. Give them all the modern tools and see just how dominant they would be.
I definitely like the concept of estimating Morphy's strength as closer to 2700 than the more common estimation of ~2400. I am a casual player though so wouldn't know the difference.
@@michaelcarroll5801 I think he probably, in a vacuum, would be 2400. He simply wouldn't know modern lines and that matters. Give him the time to study, and he goes way up, probably to 2700 as you said.
@@antarath517 Most definitely. It would be very strange if his rating didn’t go way up if he had access to information like , for example, how the Kings Indian was completely refuted by Alpha Zero. I think conversely a lot of young Grandmaster’s rating would be lower if you’d taken away their access to Stockfish when they were growing up. It’s much easier to become a master now if you have an unusually good memory because you always have access to (in human terms) the perfect moves when you are practicing. Masters of the past only had their talent and previous games to rely on.
Wow. EVERYTHING worked out perfectly. Just crazy. There was never even a line where Magnus could be slightly worse and fight. Just unbelievable.
The final position alone is gorgeous, add in the tactics along the way and you get a definite brilliancy
What a great game. Your enthusiasm really made this video great.
Alisher is not gonna be able to sleep tonight
Beating any player let alone Magnus in this fashion is the stuff made out of dreams.......
Not really unless your ego is tied to only chess
@@suilauk9954 huh? You’ve clearly never played a competitive game in your life
@@suilauk9954 dude you gotta chill
@@suilauk9954 your ego is tied to a shit takes in comment section. Who's doing better? 😆
@chopinfanclub6672 No and I won't. I wouldn't give up everything to play a boardgame. 😂😂😂. It is fun only.
I really liked this video, well done. You focused on the game itself, explaining many of the key points. I think it's very good that you touched upon the twitter post, but not spent too much time on it.
This is a beautiful game and thank you so much for your energy covering it! It wa a huge energy boost for me watching too
The way I see it is that Magnus played too passively and got punished for it. You can't always counterattack in some positions. Every player sees the day when it seems like everything they try to do seems useless.
That's what I realized,even in the previous Tournament he played passively against lower rated players, trusting that he is the strongest and will catch them in the middle and endgame...as for his whining that's funny.
Agreed 100%. To be honest, I don't know what's in it for him in classical anymore because if he plays solid stuff, his opponents are so well prepared for him it's likely a draw and he loses elo. So he plays stuff that he thinks opponents are not prepared for and occasionally he will lose like this. I remember Fabi crushing Magnus recently in a rapid game. So if he wants to get to 2800, he'd better prepare his best because it's not like hrs keeping prep for a world championship or anything. Basically he should either take classical chess super seriously or risk getting annihilated like this every now and then
Tbf, it's working for him. Sure, he lost today, but 2840 rating is still high af. That's how he is consistent with wins over 2500 rated players.
He was tilted by the watch. Shit happens. Could have been anything. For another player it could be dirt under opponents fingernails. They hyper intelligent chess players are quirky
I mean, he can just accuse them of cheating...or rather insinuate that they were...and go about his day, so really no problem for him 😁
Magnus never talks about frustrations with tournament organizers after he wins brilliantly.
it's almost as if he is a sore loser, especially to young players lol
Yes he does, if you don't watch post game interviews don't spread misinformation
@@SdeeGrThere is a difference between saying it in the scripted interviews and in twitter
People are so, so reactionary. We're talking about carlsen, the same guy that forfeited the WC bcus he didn't agree with the tournament format, even after winning it year after year.
a yasuo quote on a chess video is something i thought id never see
Master piece. I got the pause the video moments, but very few of the possible attacking continuations. 🎉
What the hell.. Every move has tons of pressure or indirect threat. Crazy game. WELL DONE! I bet MC was sweating boi!
Wonderful play by Suleymenov. Thank you for covering this game.
What an amazing game! I especially liked it when you covered some of the lines (and there seemed to be plenty of them); crushing.
I truly love Antonio's channel ... his love for the game and expertise is so nice to watch...
I don't get to play chess anymore but games like this brings back the love for the game. Master class for attacking. Well played.
This game was really fun. Dubov also played a lot of games like this.
Where nothing makes sense and you have to be a true master to understand it.
True, I also love some of Dubov's games that feel like this one. I could never play like this, everything is loose and I have no idea what to concentrate on.
That was simply amazing. Pure carnage on the board!
Seldomly seen a game this stuffed with tactics. Fantastic.
I’ll definitely try to watch this game again the tactics were something else beyond my scope for sure grandmaster ability to calculate and understand what happens behind sacrifices and specific moves seemed like a complicated game Magnus could not counter the attack his opponent put on him Thanks for the Game Agadmator
Wow! Its hard to put into words how awesome this game really is. Especially considering who it was against. There may never be a game that tops this in our lifetimes. I was shocked it started with d4. Was totally expecting e4.
amazing analysis! thank you very much, very impressive game
Amazing, added to my best chess games playlist 🎉ty!
Thank you Agad. Amazing amazing game indeed! :)
Never humble in defeat that guy. Next time he gets distracted by his opponent having a working pair of eyes or smth.
LMAO
"played an amazing game and deserved to win"
As much as we seem to believe it, but not even Magnus is a Machine. Cheating is a topic that apperently keeps him up at night and when your thoughts slip and you are then incapable of concentrating on what you want to concentrate on is an issue. And he said it is HIS issue. I understand why but I also stand by Carlsens quote "he (Alisher) deserved the win"
@@emerceelthats just damage control for what he said next. This was not game 1, alisher wore the watch yesterday too, he never said anything.
@@Elamado97 and that's just you looking for Drama where none is.
Honestly I don't understand the need to wear a watch during a game especially when it's explicitly prohibited (for a reason) and the opponent has asked you not to . Was it so hard to just take off the watch?
amazing!and grate analysis thanks!
This is the best game i have seen so far and i been watching all of your videos for last 3 or 4 years.
Amazing you have to be a genious to find all those moves with so many peaces on the game. This guy could beat engine.
Tal would have been proud! In coming times, theories will be built on this game. Awesome game. Maybe the best in 2023.
Magnus got a taste of his own medicine 😂
WoW, what a game !! Thanks for showing us this brilliancy !!
Great analysis for a great game. Thank you.
That was magnificent!
Yep hans theory was right, Hans said that these IM and GM prodigies are future high 2600 or 2700s using their absolute best prep against him.
Mr Plug correct once again
plugging some theoris
Wow, the man with the vibrating rectum was onto something
oh wow, these replies are very original
Hans will be happy tonight
Shows me again the whole beauty of the game.Thanks Agad.
The most impressive game I have ever seen, on this channel or anywhere! What a win.
Please add the accuracy rate for both the players at the end of the game. #suggestion
I like that!
I like that!
Great idea, would love to see accuracy of both players after he shows us the game.
Idk how he hasn't been doing this already
@@uselessdegenerate7565me neither. every chess youtuber does it nowadays
Probably "THE GAME OF THE CENTURY" of this century.
Excellent coverage! What a beautiful game! This is why we play chess! Your channel got me back into chess. God bless!
We may never see a worse beatdown than that, stunning!
Was hoping Suleymenov was wearing a gold, pre-ceramic 116518 Daytona.
This game shows why there's a saying that "Chess is 99% tactics"🔥
Thanks a lot! 😊
GOD DAMN, this match deserves more views. Truly Amazing and remarcable. As you said in the video, I'm lost for words
The paranoia that Magnus has around cheating seems almost Fischeresque. Cheating is a big issue but we saw similar concentration issues against Niemann. I fully believe that it was a genuine distraction for Magnus. Maybe he should talk with a sports psychologist about this.
But he's got a point. It doesn't natter if its true his opponents cheated or not. Because with the current state of security it is POSSIBLE to cheat. Instead of discarding his claims people beed to take them really serious and improve the system.
Maybe people should stop cheating.
Or, the better player won?
@@delanmorstik7619 Okay but why bring it up when he loses? If its a general problem, he should talk about it win or lose, not just lose. lol
Magnus is right watch must not allowed and also smartphome should be banned
That was a MASSACRE!
Very nicely done.
What an inspiring game - It's itching under my nails to play chess again!
Beautiful game
Maybe a question for a GM: After pawn to e5 (and as explained from 05:00) would Alisher have actually calculated all those lines to the end? As that would be insane... or is it more likely that he calculated out a few moves for each candidate response and decided that he would most likely have an advantage and then went for e5? Great game and video!
He must have calculated up to a point where he knee he'd be better. Different style players might calculate further and look at other moves, others would just go for a move that wins.
Source: Trust me bro lol
Magnus did say in an interview once how he "feels" positions a lot of times and just calculates a little to validate his intuition, but I am not sure if that is his genius or common for GMs
*not knee, knew
What a game thanks for sharing.
Wow!..Simply wow!!
Incredible game; incredible coverage. Alisher one to watch for sure.
What a brilliant game. Alisher got a truly wonderful position
thanks a lot agad, missing your historical series.
Great game & job
Saw how Hikaru was quick to hint at Hans' performance drop after those matches with the younger IMs?
Now, Magnus loses to a 2500, and he's gonna milk it for clicks in the complete opposite fashion.
Guess Hikaru only brings out the insinuations when it's convenient. Anything for those TH-cam clicks.
Well you see, its very easy to be stupid every now and then. Even experts do something extremely amateurish sometimes.
However, it is extremely umlikely to be ABSOLUTELY brilliant just once out of nowhere.
The problem with Hans is that he was too brilliant with no warning. Alisher on the other hand, is showing sparks of brilliancy and Magnus was an absolute idiot that day.
If Magnus was absolutely on point? It would still be a good game and i am not entirely cinfident he could win against Alisher's prep. Draw maybe?
@@sleepycritical6950 Dont forget the very important Hans is a SELF ADMITTED cheater in the past.
@@fomori2 even if you grant him the benefit of the doubt. He played like a GOD. He played like Kasparov in his prime. He played like Bobby Fischer reincarnated for 1 day. He played like he had an entire team of Russian seconds in the background crunching lines for him. He played like he was Stockfish from the future.
It would be like me, a solid 1500 ish playing against someone like Levy and just absolutely crushing him like that Indonesian dad crushed him in that one controversial game but times 10, like I violated him in front of his wife so bad he had to get a divorce level of humiliation.
The worst part is, if he can play like that then it implies he can calculate and analyse like that. But no, his own analysis of the game was terrible, making terrible calculations and blunders that don't make sense.
But again, benefit of the doubt, sometimes I can play a good game but hardly remember my own calculations. Even so just staring at the position is enough for me to more or less remember why I played whatever move instead of another move, sooooo...
Hikaru has no moral compass.
Magnus felt like he was playing down a queen and a rook... and a bishop. That traffic jam on the queenside missed the defense of the kingside and stymied black's development pretty badly.
Ok. That was freaking awesome.
Congrats kid. 😊💪👍
Often i end up positions like this 🥳
Proud to felt like Magnus 😎
This is winning with style! Very surprised to see Magnus at the recieving end 😮😮
Underestimated his opponent
Құтты болсын, Алішер!
What an astonishing game! Crazy.
What an exciting game. I wonder if choosing a “suboptimal” line (i.e., a gambit, or in this case the Queen’s Indian Defense) allows for more aggressive play as the lines are presumably more unbalanced compared to more accurate computer lines.
Omg this is magic
Magnus lost his ability to concentrate when he saw Alisher wearing a watch .
This made me chuckle.
You don't get what he means?
@@dcoledesttaevadoithawj2207Your stupidity makes me chuckle too.
The absolute strongest player of all time has a mental block against FIDE-allowed watches. Surely this reveal would help Magnus opponents have better chances against him
People understand the words coming out of his mouth, but what kind of watch was it? Analog? Digital? Makes a difference. @@galaxygalaxy4429
Awesome game!
@14:39 "Taking your defeat with some grace and dignity" - just left the chat
Fellow Countryman Alisher! Incredible! Goosebumps lol 🇰🇿
Does he also destroy Kazakh gm's?
Mr agad, love your videos. I got to ask you why the sudden interest in samurais? if you are interested in miyamoto mushashi's life read a manga called vagabond, it's pretty amazing.
Beautiful game. 👌
Wow. An amazing game indeed !!
"Brilliant brilliant game."
This is unbelievable. He treated Magnus Carlsen like a hostage who begged for his life. He restricted Magnus so severely that any move he made would send him to the grave.
I don't believe Alisher is part of Hamas
calm down, wtf is wrong with you,lol
@@chesscomsupport8689 broo.. diminish the bars
Absolutely incredible
"His final form" - I loved it, along with the game
Surprised that we didn't see a Morphy head awarded. Great game!
Opponent: wearing a FIDE regulated watch
Magnus: *Now this is an avengers level threat*
What's a FIDE regulated watch?
@@UtopicUnicornBecause Fide only allows analogue watches at their tournaments.
@@jimskea224They don't. They don't allow watches at all nowadays.
@@DeBert in a comment below meron7700 said "Magnus asked the arbiter during the game. The arbiter said the watch was allowed, however this is not really approved by FIDE."
And also @jimskea224 "Analogue watches ARE allowed by FIDE. Only smartwatches/ electronic watches are banned by FIDE. Some chess federations, such as India, have more restrictive rules, and individual tournaments may, of course, impose their own restrictions."
Seems to me this indeed depends on tournament. Otherwise this would have been forfeit loss for Alisher.
Are we ever going to see your next saga?? Really like the history, facts and story you take us through.. current games are getting kinda tired.. fell in love with ur content during the Fischer saga.. common man
A very impresive game..