UPDATE! 1 Year later and I couldn't be happier, pool stays clear and all I have to do is run my pool robot cleaner. I did just swap out the copper cartridge for the first time at $99. Looks like once a year is all I'll have to do on a changeout. I still don't run chemicals, but you should keep an eye on your PH and TDS as that benefits the system working. I still highly recommend this system, it's so easy to use.
So you dont shock at all? I have a Permasalt system with that same copper ionizer and the Permasalt system recommends a cal-hypo shock, oxidizer and enzymes to eat body oils as part of the total water care.
Thanks for the great video. I’m a water chemist and we have been using silver and copper ionization in the industrial market for 20 years. It certainly works for the nations biggest hospitals. The aeration from the fountain should actually lower your pH slightly, not raise it, by producing a small amount of carbonic acid. But the biggest benefit is the buffering capacity of the carbonic acid cycle vs solely typical hydrochloric acid cycle with no intermediate ion. You’re also using a robot regularly which contributes to your crystal clear water by scrubbing up and filtering the organics before algae has a change to bloom. Don’t discount the importance of balanced pH though, aeration and boric acid will certainly help maintain pH, but it’s imperative people check and balance their pH with muratic acid or in very rare cases soda ash. The eye stinging some people get from pools is usually not associated with chlorine but high pH.
I found a solar powered copper ionizer that floats around in my small pool. It's been just over a week and my water looks really good. I can't use chlorine because of health issues, so this method enables me to have a pool! 😊
@@TKCLI bought the Remington solar-powered one. I've had it in my pool since July 7th, so a week. I pulled it out today after being out of town and did the cleaning of the copper rod. It was definitely working based on the gunk I cleaned off the copper rod (and condition of my pool). @JustVlads has two videos on it. He's had a very positive experience!
Great video as always! I, too, am using that same ionization system here in Eastern NC. Full sun was constantly burning off my chlorine even with a good dose of stabilizer. I switched 2 years ago now with good results.
I'm sure most people that want pools don't get one due to all the maintenance. Thanks for making it easier! Catch you on the live tonight and looking forward to it!! 7PM EST!
I’m just learning to use collidal silver and I use borax when closing and it never needs anything to reopen just a day of pump running . So glad so many help teach others to use no chemicals , thank you
We struggled with the pool we had a few years back. Our local pool supplier kept saying to add all these chemicals and we were always adding, testing etc. I never heard of the copper unit. This makes me want to grab a new pool and start again! Thanks!
This heat has been no joke this summer. Glad the system has been working fantastic for you. Chemical balance for pools can be a major challenge due to several factors.
I have heard about them but figured it was a gimmick. Thanks for the review. Next spring we will be putting up our above ground pool. Got the pool and the sand filter.
Thank you for the video as it really helped me. Can you either post links to the fittings that you use to attach the ionizer to the pump or let me know which ones you used. That would definitely help me out in setting up my own system.
Thank you for putting out this video! I have been using this exact same Power Ionizer unit for 15 years on my 24' above ground pool here in coastal South Carolina and I confirm everything he says is true about it. Maintenance is nil for me other than vacuuming but I have a lot of trees and similar storms in this area but I will be looking into that robotic vac cleaner for sure! I also do not winterize or cover my pool and it stays crystal clear year round.
Andrew, i had a 24' diameter pool for 12 years with the copper ionizer & it was the easiest pool i have ever taking care of. The only negative that i had with mine, was after the first year the copper stained the liner at the water level line, it was not bad but for sure is not a deal breaker.
I came here looking for a solution to that problem. I have what looks like a black bathtub ring . I have to say I would not own a pool without this though.
Hi, Andrew! It’s good to see you. I enjoy the pool videos. You have helped many people to learn how to build and maintain their pool. See you later in the livestream. Notification reminder is set.
If you use the trouble free pool method, maintenance is super light even with chemicals. We use chlorine, borax (water softener), and baking soda. Our 20x40 in ground (48k gallons) requires about 2 gallons of chlorine per week in the really hot months when we have a lot of rain and almost zero through the winter. Chlorine pucks are bad for pools if you use too many. They add stabilizer which increases your cyanuric acid levels and renders your chlorine useless. I toss a puck in a couple times a summer just to maintain a little CYA, but not much since it doesn't go down. We use a frog in our hot tub. We don't have to balance it at all. We just replace the cartridge once every 3 months and it stays perfectly balanced. No chlorine smell either.
My two children are allergic to chlorine(salt water pools have a smaller amount) in pools and have hive breakouts or rashes the color of a severe sunburn. This would be a safer/better option for them.
I have used a solar ionizer for three years with no problem. I also use Boric Acid which levels the PH in my Phoenix Pool. I created a floating fountain using a Rule 1100GPH bilge pump to cool the water and aerate it.
@@xq8152 I use 25 lbs for 10,000 gallons. I only add it once. For maintenance, I add a little less than 5 bls every two years due to backwashing. Boric Acid does not evaporate. I buy it from Duda Energy. The water feels softer, and it sparkles. I use less chlorine and less acid. I do not use other chemicals. The ionizer also adds a slight amount of copper, so it acts as a germicide. Before that, I was always having algae blooms.
Only thing i see about this is the copper system might not be able to be used by everyone. There is a medical condition called wilsons disease it is rare though
I am in fla with trees over my pool. I bought something called pool rx (copper) put it in my skimmer and run a duck with tablets, but not enough to show up on test strips. That is all I do. My pool is perfect
Wish I could thumbs up twice....this is a topic most people dont know but NEED. Thank you for being informed and sharing that info. I like your style dude! Much ❤ from TX
Wow I have never heard of the Ionizer that's 1/3 the the price of my salt gen. I have the cartridge filter, sand is the way to go for sure. If I missed a past one on what you have sorry and thanks for the new one and as always great information.
Hey brother look into peroxide for any maintenance or blooms if they do occur over chlorine. as it reacts you just get more oxygen in your water. I used to use that for my hottub and man its was nice over the other stuff.
Oh wow I'd go broke if I ran mine 24/7. Sounds like you need a solar pool pump, at least it can save you a pile of money during the daytime. Feel the need to run your other pool pump you could valve into and run it at night time.
The user most probably has a variable speed pump, which can potentially consume less power running 24 hours vs a single speed pump running for 8 hours per day. @TKCL
Sounds like great news for pool owners, nice that you shared the experience. BTW, I as checking some crafts stuff on eBay and ran into a VEVOR things, you were right they have anything:))) Too bad they don't ship here:(((
@@TKCL Oops...ours won't be exactly like yours. We have above ground pool, but it's not like y'all's. One of the cheaper ones. We did order a copper ionizer, but not the model you reviewed. Still, I'm hoping it helps!
Have a dolphin pool cleaner that is six years old I thought it broke so I purchased another one about two years ago but then I found out I just needed a power supply so now I have two. They are very expensive but they are built like tanks 👍 FYI mine stays in the pool and runs everyday but I am surrounded by trees..
We have a solar ionizer and unfortunately the copper has stained our pool terribly. (We didn’t clean off the copper tube weekly) but we’ve had no algae in years and we only may add a tablet once in a while (like when and if we remember.) It’s been great for our skin(we bought this because our grandson uses it mostly in the summer regularly.)
Sounds like your ionizer was turned up too high, assuming it's adjustable. That's why you need to occasionally run copper tests and adjust accordingly.
That’s awesome! I appreciate the video. I’m going to get one but I’m still going to shock occasionally to break down body oils and sunblock. The acid is just to control PH so peoples eyes don’t burn and help your equipment last longer.
You still need to balance your ph or the water will pull the base or acid from your equipment water wants to be balance and it will attack your pool to do so. Other than that the copper is a sanitizer that will clean the water 8:54
I have the ionizer that looks like a blue football. I can’t get any info on how to close it. I think I’ll just unplug it and store it until spring and hope for the best. 🤷🏼♀️ oh I also bought the dolphin escape because of this video and I love it. Only thing is that it doesn’t shut off at 2 hours and you need to shut it off or it will fry it.
2 questions, 1. Have you tried one gallon of Clorox instead of the tablets weekly. Up here in Alabama we are just about in the same temperature zones and one gallon offsets the hi price of chlorine. I have checked my water since march without any problems. I do love my Ionizer! 2. How far down did you bury your pool and what did you back fill the sides with? Thanks Mike Clark Also like the videos.
Hmm, I was told my water had too much copper and they gave me something to reduce it. We recently switched over to salt water. It definitely is much easier than chlorine. My pool is only around 8000 gallons. I love my Dolphin vac, we call her Flipper. 🐋🐋 Will have to think about this system you use. Does your friend also have a video? Thanks for the video.👍🏻
I was wondering how often you run your filter after the initial start up? I also saw on their web site that they say to use a packet of shock every week or two. Also a quart bottle of clarifier every two weeks. Do you do that or is it ok to just run the filter alone?
I run the filter and ionizer about 8-9 hours a day during summer. I've added nothing else, I'd for try not adding the other stuff unless you see you need it.
I have the Power Ionizer on my 30’x54” above ground that we purchased in March of 2023, when we purchased it from the pool store they told us these are not completely self sufficient and it takes the place of the chlorine tablets but we still have to put 2 pounds of shock in our pool weekly and on the initial fill we had to put 2 40 pound bags of salt said it gives the copper and silver something to bind to to create the sanitizer. We run the ionizer 24/7 and usually run it on 4, we opened our pool in April for the 2024 season and have fought it for the last 4 weeks to keep it clear even using chlorinated shock it only stays clear 3-5 days. 2023 we rotated every other week with chlorinated and in-chlorinated shock and never had any issues.
The nice thing too about not having to use chlorine is inhaling the fumes. I had that lap pen to me years ago went to open the container of chlorine tablets and got a lung full of fumes! Thought I was going to choke to death. That’s probably why I have breathing issues even now.
I've been debating this but have read that the copper can turn light hair green similar to chlorine . Me and one of our kids have light blonde hair lol.
My friend that's had one of these for 5 years has very light blonde hair herself. She's had zero issues. What you want to do is test every so often and make sure you keep the copper at required levels.
To begin with I run my on 8 for the first few days after installation. Once you read copper levels in the pool with the test strips, I turn it down to 5 for the rest of the year. Monitor your copper levels and adjust as needed.
Thank you so much for the video and being so informative. We have been replacing all toxic chemicals in our house, and I have really been bothered by the thought of our grandkids continuing to spend the summer swimming in chemicals. I have a couple of questions. We just took our winter cover off today. (Southern West Virginia) Our water is green. 😅 Do we need to get it clear before we start using this system. Also, we used Baquacil last summer. Will that matter to this system, if any of that is still remaining in the water? Thanks so much.
@@TKCL have had mine in for about 4 weeks I am in central NC. After running at 4 for a few days I slowly dropped it now I keep it at a one and have for about 3 days the water is beautiful. I just left a review on Amazon with photos. I have a 18500 in ground and it works great.
Thank you for showing all of these products. I just bought an ionizer and it keeps getting buildup on it. Is that normal and do I clean just about every day?
The water is crystal clear and that's awesome. And I'm not here to come across like a know it all. Just my thoughts are wondering about sanitization. Kids pee in the pool. Neighbors pee in the pool. Dogs play in the pool. I think that's where chlorine might still be necessary.
Nothing wrong with keeping a jug of liquid chlorine for those instances. I like to avoid chemicals when I can. After a pool party is not a bad time to do this.
Hey I really like your video but I got a question maybe you can answer for me I got an above ground pool 18' foot round pool by 48" deep you think I can use this on my pool I found out that they also have a floating one that does the same thing but my pool is only 6700 gallons what are your thoughts please advise thanks in advance 😊
I will, but when our good friend has been running hers for over 5 years now, that's the best review I could ask for. Just had two more viewers say they have been running these for 2 years and 12 years respectively.
Hi Andrew 👋. I have the same copper system in my pool works amazing, but i decided to try salt water just to see. What i have noticed is a funny smell in our hair after using the pool. Have you guys had anything like that happen? Thank you and we love you guys, great content
Hi Andrew ... could you please send me some information on the ionizer unit you are using .I live in europe and struggling to find a unit .many thanks Mitch
Should work with any pool, you'll need to find the adapters to put this I line with your hoses. You will also need to monitor the copper levels and adjust as needed.
Hello. So im wondering how i can lower my copper levels on my pool i have an intex 12x30 and put the ionizer you have . Now my copper levels are at 2 ppm. At what levels do you keep your pool? And how often do you run the ionizer? I have sand filter pump and I'm trying to not add any chemicals to my pool. Is it save to swimm in the pool with this much copper? I will really appreciate it your opinions since you have this ionizer and you seem to know alot.
There is adjustments on the front of the machine, up and down arrows. I typically run mine on 5 or 6. If your levels are high, go to a lower setting and monitor with the test strips. I never monitor mine to be honest, a setting of 5 or 6 running for roughly 9 hours a day is perfect for our 30ft pool. Being round we have a lot more water than you, so your results will vary.
Great video! My salt cell just quit for the second time and I'm going to try this route. Does anyone know if there's any problem with the salt that's already in my water? I'm really hoping I don't have to drain and refill... Thanks!
Actually people add salt to pools with these to get the TDS up for them to work well. I don't know if there is a point where you can have too much though.
That's great news! I already ordered the unit through your Amazon link. I'll do some research and update how it goes. I can't believe this system/method has been around for years and It's not more common. Thanks again for sharing your experience!
@@stemtosternms4438 it's not talked about or pushed because pool places love to sell you chemicals over and over. Make sure you run your pump around the clock the first couple of days and monitor the copper levels. Once established you can run as normal.
Does this power ionizer work with the regular pool paper filters? I assume that part doesnt make a difference as long as its hooked up right. Aloe, how big of a dofference is the "power ionizer" to the "pool ionizer" on amazon? Theres only a few dollars dofference, but i was cuious if anyone could tell what the difference is...? Great video! I subscribed!
I don't see why that should make any difference. As for the two different brands, I went with the power ionizer because that's what my friend has had for 6 years and it's been reliable.
So informative! Many Thanks for sharing your experienced wisdom with me! You mention a fountain that cools your pool off. Could you share that link with me here? I can't seem to find it 😱
You need to test your TDS and see the range it's in. People actually add salt to get the TDS in range for the ionizers. With that said you could be too high, a partial flush might be required.
I've looked at them myself, reviews seem decent. I hadn't planned on running one because mine is working so well. Too much copper can cause staining issues.
This is the one I've been using for a year and it works great. amzn.to/3DRBXN4 I tried multiple cheaper models and they were all horrible. You get what you pay for.
That is a great set up yo have for your lazy man's pool. Using science instead of chemicals. I am curious how does the sunscreen and stuff like that get filtered out of the pool? Have you thought about building an outdoor shower and adding an outdoor bathroom? Guest wouldn't drip water through your house when the urge hits them. That would help keep the pee out of your pool too!
I just got my pool installed I will be getting one of these units.did you use the salt for initial start up? I’m really interested in this unit. I’m here researching like crazy before I order it
This was a really interesting video. Just out of curiousity, do you know what your copper levels are typically at? Sorry if I missed this in the video. The tests from the pool store (Leslie's) have an acceptable copper range from 0-0.2ppm, and I've always avoided using copper algaecide to stay within this range. I also have an inground with a
It's a 27 ft pool called The Deep Dubai, it's 54 in deep. I did buy the sand filter from them in the package deal. The ionizer I bought off of amazon, links are in this video's description.
I never run mine below 5 or 6. You need to set it to 8 and run your pump around the clock for a few days. Use the provided test strips and go back to a lower setting only after you see copper residual on the test strips. Make sure you are cleaning your filters or back flushing. I then run my filter 1 hour a day per 10 degrees. 90 degree temperature, run for 9 hours a day with the ionizer running during that time.
Dang that's a good pool cleaner... But my old pool was sent up for saltwater and after 5 years of splashing and use the metal side supports started rusting out 🫣🫣
I have a few questions that maybe you could answer. If you used a tablet dispenser, how is it that you don't have any chemicals? Don't tablet have stabilizer? Did you completely disregard the setup instructions on the ionizer as well as the maintenance instructions? If so, this seems to be a problem as the copper effectiveness is dependent on balanced water chemistry. How are you killing fecal bacteria as copper doesnt kill it? How are you oxidizing bather waste? Copper has a much much lower rate of disinfection compared to chlorine, how are you handling that? I really want to get away from chemicals, but don't see how this will do that reliably? I read the amazon reviews for the linked product and most are still using chlorine regularly. Please help.
I am trusting 5 years of my friends experience. She does not add chemicals (chlorine) unless she has a bunch of kids over and has a big party, that's rare. All she has done for 5 years ran a copper ionizer. If you have heavy sunblock usage and potential spoiling of the pool from large activities or gatherings, I'd highly recommend you keep liquid chlorine on hand to hit the pool with after those occasions. I might do the same myself to make me feel a little better. With all that said, the ionizer by itself is keeping my pool algae free and clear during one of the hottest summers on record.
@@TKCL Thanks for the reply. I think you said it best, the ionizer is keeping the algae at bay and the water is clear. My issue and concern is sanitation as the copper is 50 to 100 times slower than chlorine at killing bacteria. Clear water doesn't equal safe water.
Keep in mind that you have to build copper levels in your pool. So run it around the clock for a few days until you get a reading on your test strips. Took 3 days for mine to keep the water clear, no issues since.
The pool store where we purchased ours said you have to add salt because the copper and silver ions have to have something to bind to in the water to be able to create sanitizer, we had to add 80 pounds for our 30’x54” above ground pool.
Can't be worse than all those chemicals. You use copper test strips to keep levels in check and adjust the ionizer accordingly. The only problems I've heard of with high copper levels is hair and waterline staining.
@@TKCL oh didn’t see that there is a copper test strip. I only see half of anything I watch because one of my young’ins walks in talking. Thanks for the reply.
@@TKCL Our granddaughters' beautiful blonde hair all turned green last summer when we were using a copper ionizer. I don't know what to do. We loved how it worked otherwise, but their moms were pretty upset about their daughters' hair.
UPDATE! 1 Year later and I couldn't be happier, pool stays clear and all I have to do is run my pool robot cleaner. I did just swap out the copper cartridge for the first time at $99. Looks like once a year is all I'll have to do on a changeout. I still don't run chemicals, but you should keep an eye on your PH and TDS as that benefits the system working. I still highly recommend this system, it's so easy to use.
How many gallons of water is in your pool?
@@ElectronicLab.4:08 16,000
So you dont shock at all?
I have a Permasalt system with that same copper ionizer and the Permasalt system recommends a cal-hypo shock, oxidizer and enzymes to eat body oils as part of the total water care.
@@ElectronicLab. 8000 gals 48" h x 18' diameter
So for the TDS level, you just do a partial drain and refill? What do you like use to lower the PH? Thank you!
Thanks for the great video. I’m a water chemist and we have been using silver and copper ionization in the industrial market for 20 years. It certainly works for the nations biggest hospitals. The aeration from the fountain should actually lower your pH slightly, not raise it, by producing a small amount of carbonic acid. But the biggest benefit is the buffering capacity of the carbonic acid cycle vs solely typical hydrochloric acid cycle with no intermediate ion. You’re also using a robot regularly which contributes to your crystal clear water by scrubbing up and filtering the organics before algae has a change to bloom.
Don’t discount the importance of balanced pH though, aeration and boric acid will certainly help maintain pH, but it’s imperative people check and balance their pH with muratic acid or in very rare cases soda ash. The eye stinging some people get from pools is usually not associated with chlorine but high pH.
Thank you for the information
as a water chemist, what would you recommend to contend with the contaminants in city water?
@@museunicorn Vote for better politicians that will actually allocate funds to public works rather than "downtown renovation projects"
I found a solar powered copper ionizer that floats around in my small pool. It's been just over a week and my water looks really good. I can't use chlorine because of health issues, so this method enables me to have a pool! 😊
I've been curious if those work.
@@TKCLI bought the Remington solar-powered one. I've had it in my pool since July 7th, so a week. I pulled it out today after being out of town and did the cleaning of the copper rod. It was definitely working based on the gunk I cleaned off the copper rod (and condition of my pool). @JustVlads has two videos on it. He's had a very positive experience!
Can we get a link for it
I did that and no luck. I put it in my skimmer and that was the total difference. It's perfect
Great video as always! I, too, am using that same ionization system here in Eastern NC. Full sun was constantly burning off my chlorine even with a good dose of stabilizer. I switched 2 years ago now with good results.
Great to hear!
That is good to hear. I didn't know about this thing but now I want one and I also live in eastern NC
I used something similar in my hot tub and it worked well.
I'm sure most people that want pools don't get one due to all the maintenance. Thanks for making it easier! Catch you on the live tonight and looking forward to it!! 7PM EST!
See you then
I can see why we all love these videos, THEY ARE GOOD ! Keep them coming sir !
Thank you for watching and the support
100% man ! @@TKCL
I’m just learning to use collidal silver and I use borax when closing and it never needs anything to reopen just a day of pump running . So glad so many help teach others to use no chemicals , thank you
How do you use that on what gallon size pool.
@@audreybroussard6186awe a Broussard in the house. My son is a Broussard ❤
We struggled with the pool we had a few years back. Our local pool supplier kept saying to add all these chemicals and we were always adding, testing etc. I never heard of the copper unit. This makes me want to grab a new pool and start again! Thanks!
There's no way I don't want a pool if I had to do all that chemical back and forth mess.
I once tested my drinking water from a local municipality with a test strip. It had so much Chlorine it was unsafe to swim in but ok to drink! .
Wow that's wild!
No tap water is safe to drink
Gov regulation is a joke
@@RJ-cc1fzuse reverse osmosis and add celtic salt back in it before drinking
This heat has been no joke this summer. Glad the system has been working fantastic for you. Chemical balance for pools can be a major challenge due to several factors.
I am so happy to not be using chemicals
I have heard about them but figured it was a gimmick.
Thanks for the review.
Next spring we will be putting up our above ground pool.
Got the pool and the sand filter.
It sure sounds like a gimmick, but it's been working great.
Thank you for the video as it really helped me. Can you either post links to the fittings that you use to attach the ionizer to the pump or let me know which ones you used. That would definitely help me out in setting up my own system.
Thank you for putting out this video! I have been using this exact same Power Ionizer unit for 15 years on my 24' above ground pool here in coastal South Carolina and I confirm everything he says is true about it. Maintenance is nil for me other than vacuuming but I have a lot of trees and similar storms in this area but I will be looking into that robotic vac cleaner for sure! I also do not winterize or cover my pool and it stays crystal clear year round.
They absolutely work!
Andrew, i had a 24' diameter pool for 12 years with the copper ionizer & it was the easiest pool i have ever taking care of. The only negative that i had with mine, was after the first year the copper stained the liner at the water level line, it was not bad but for sure is not a deal breaker.
Thank you for the long term feedback.
I came here looking for a solution to that problem. I have what looks like a black bathtub ring .
I have to say I would not own a pool without this though.
I just saw a video of this down side of this system.
Surely there is a way to get that copper stain off🤔
Hi, Andrew! It’s good to see you. I enjoy the pool videos. You have helped many people to learn how to build and maintain their pool. See you later in the livestream. Notification reminder is set.
Awesome, thank you!
Can you post a link on how to build and set up. I've searched but didn't see one
If you use the trouble free pool method, maintenance is super light even with chemicals. We use chlorine, borax (water softener), and baking soda. Our 20x40 in ground (48k gallons) requires about 2 gallons of chlorine per week in the really hot months when we have a lot of rain and almost zero through the winter. Chlorine pucks are bad for pools if you use too many. They add stabilizer which increases your cyanuric acid levels and renders your chlorine useless. I toss a puck in a couple times a summer just to maintain a little CYA, but not much since it doesn't go down. We use a frog in our hot tub. We don't have to balance it at all. We just replace the cartridge once every 3 months and it stays perfectly balanced. No chlorine smell either.
My two children are allergic to chlorine(salt water pools have a smaller amount) in pools and have hive breakouts or rashes the color of a severe sunburn. This would be a safer/better option for them.
Good day. I like the placement of th the flag in the frame.
Hello and thanks for watching.
I have used a solar ionizer for three years with no problem. I also use Boric Acid which levels the PH in my Phoenix Pool. I created a floating fountain using a Rule 1100GPH bilge pump to cool the water and aerate it.
How much boric acid and when? Do you use any other chemicals?
@@xq8152 I use 25 lbs for 10,000 gallons. I only add it once. For maintenance, I add a little less than 5 bls every two years due to backwashing. Boric Acid does not evaporate. I buy it from Duda Energy. The water feels softer, and it sparkles. I use less chlorine and less acid. I do not use other chemicals. The ionizer also adds a slight amount of copper, so it acts as a germicide. Before that, I was always having algae blooms.
@@xq8152 I would love to know this as well. He has to be using other chemicals. Its called chlorine
Only thing i see about this is the copper system might not be able to be used by everyone. There is a medical condition called wilsons disease it is rare though
I am in fla with trees over my pool. I bought something called pool rx (copper) put it in my skimmer and run a duck with tablets, but not enough to show up on test strips. That is all I do. My pool is perfect
Outstanding video. Great information. Thanks.
Thank you for watching
Wish I could thumbs up twice....this is a topic most people dont know but NEED. Thank you for being informed and sharing that info. I like your style dude!
Much ❤ from TX
Thank you for watching! Glad it was helpful.
Great information and video.
Thanks for the info Andrew. Now I want to go swimming
Just got out of the pool 😉
Wow I have never heard of the Ionizer that's 1/3 the the price of my salt gen. I have the cartridge filter, sand is the way to go for sure. If I missed a past one on what you have sorry and thanks for the new one and as always great information.
Thank you for watching
Hey brother look into peroxide for any maintenance or blooms if they do occur over chlorine. as it reacts you just get more oxygen in your water. I used to use that for my hottub and man its was nice over the other stuff.
Thanks, I'll have to look into it.
I run my pump 24/7. Inground 20x40’. Have to buy a salt cell every 3-5 years. This might be worth checking out.
Oh wow I'd go broke if I ran mine 24/7. Sounds like you need a solar pool pump, at least it can save you a pile of money during the daytime. Feel the need to run your other pool pump you could valve into and run it at night time.
The user most probably has a variable speed pump, which can potentially consume less power running 24 hours vs a single speed pump running for 8 hours per day. @TKCL
Sounds like great news for pool owners, nice that you shared the experience.
BTW, I as checking some crafts stuff on eBay and ran into a VEVOR things, you were right they have anything:))) Too bad they don't ship here:(((
Bummer they can't deliver to you.
Hi Andrew, very interesting video. Always good to know. Your pool is crystal clear. 👍👍❤️❤️🇨🇦
Thank you for watching
Your pool looks so inviting :-) thanks for sharing. God bless.:)
We've been in it a lot!
The pool is nice, I got a 16 ft myself, but look at that backyard, it looks like a dang golf course ✌️
Thank you, I love taking care of our place.
Thanks for this video! We have above ground pool and have recently been having algae. Will be ordering one of these soon!!
Please let me know how it works out for you. Mine has made owning a pool so simple.
@@TKCL Oops...ours won't be exactly like yours. We have above ground pool, but it's not like y'all's. One of the cheaper ones. We did order a copper ionizer, but not the model you reviewed. Still, I'm hoping it helps!
@@WendyBrown-l6zDid it help?
Have a dolphin pool cleaner that is six years old I thought it broke so I purchased another one about two years ago but then I found out I just needed a power supply so now I have two. They are very expensive but they are built like tanks 👍 FYI mine stays in the pool and runs everyday but I am surrounded by trees..
Get what you pay for when it comes to that kind of stuff
I wonder if this would work for my in ground pool? Research time, thanks for the info!
No reason it shouldn't, you probably have less water to treat than me.
Good point about the bugs on the outside
We have a solar ionizer and unfortunately the copper has stained our pool terribly. (We didn’t clean off the copper tube weekly) but we’ve had no algae in years and we only may add a tablet once in a while (like when and if we remember.)
It’s been great for our skin(we bought this because our grandson uses it mostly in the summer regularly.)
Sounds like your ionizer was turned up too high, assuming it's adjustable. That's why you need to occasionally run copper tests and adjust accordingly.
Enjoy the American flag blowing in the wind behind you. nice video, sent it to my brother-in-law
I love having that flag
That’s awesome! I appreciate the video. I’m going to get one but I’m still going to shock occasionally to break down body oils and sunblock. The acid is just to control PH so peoples eyes don’t burn and help your equipment last longer.
I think that would be a good idea.
Using a similar system, same results! ionizes are amazing! I run 1 3in chlorine tablet a week.
I love this system
Prestine Blue is a good option for temporary pools or those that don't want to replumb the pool.
ionizing, aireation and ozone are the way to go.
You still need to balance your ph or the water will pull the base or acid from your equipment water wants to be balance and it will attack your pool to do so. Other than that the copper is a sanitizer that will clean the water 8:54
I have an ionizer, was going to add some UV and ozone
May I ask why you chose ionizer of salt chlorine generator. I'm trying to decide which to buy for my pool
Don't want any harsh salt in my pool or chlorine. None of it is good for equipment or your skin.
I have the ionizer that looks like a blue football. I can’t get any info on how to close it. I think I’ll just unplug it and store it until spring and hope for the best. 🤷🏼♀️ oh I also bought the dolphin escape because of this video and I love it. Only thing is that it doesn’t shut off at 2 hours and you need to shut it off or it will fry it.
Interesting, my Dolphin shuts off automatically every single time. Something isn't right with yours.
Awesome content. Thanks for sharing. Love the channel. 🤠
Thank you for watching
2 questions, 1. Have you tried one gallon of Clorox instead of the tablets weekly. Up here in Alabama we are just about in the same temperature zones and one gallon offsets the hi price of chlorine. I have checked my water since march without any problems. I do love my Ionizer!
2. How far down did you bury your pool and what did you back fill the sides with? Thanks Mike Clark Also like the videos.
Never tried clorox. We buried about 20 inches at the deepest part and back filled with a clay/sand mixture we have here.
Hmm, I was told my water had too much copper and they gave me something to reduce it. We recently switched over to salt water. It definitely is much easier than chlorine. My pool is only around 8000 gallons. I love my Dolphin vac, we call her Flipper. 🐋🐋 Will have to think about this system you use. Does your friend also have a video? Thanks for the video.👍🏻
Copper might be a problem for other systems, but not for this one. You need to keep the copper in a certain range, that's easily tested with strips.
I was wondering how often you run your filter after the initial start up? I also saw on their web site that they say to use a packet of shock every week or two. Also a quart bottle of clarifier every two weeks. Do you do that or is it ok to just run the filter alone?
I run the filter and ionizer about 8-9 hours a day during summer. I've added nothing else, I'd for try not adding the other stuff unless you see you need it.
I have the Power Ionizer on my 30’x54” above ground that we purchased in March of 2023, when we purchased it from the pool store they told us these are not completely self sufficient and it takes the place of the chlorine tablets but we still have to put 2 pounds of shock in our pool weekly and on the initial fill we had to put 2 40 pound bags of salt said it gives the copper and silver something to bind to to create the sanitizer. We run the ionizer 24/7 and usually run it on 4, we opened our pool in April for the 2024 season and have fought it for the last 4 weeks to keep it clear even using chlorinated shock it only stays clear 3-5 days. 2023 we rotated every other week with chlorinated and in-chlorinated shock and never had any issues.
The nice thing too about not having to use chlorine is inhaling the fumes. I had that lap pen to me years ago went to open the container of chlorine tablets and got a lung full of fumes! Thought I was going to choke to death. That’s probably why I have breathing issues even now.
It's a nasty chemical, that's for sure.
Nice backyard!!
Thanks, we work hard on it.
Does this work with a cartridge filter system instead of a sand filter? Thanks for the info.
It certainly should, as the filter systems only there to remove particles.
We’ve used an ionizer for two years on our 30’ pool with cartridge filter , excellent results.
I use a dolphin it’s great!
I've been debating this but have read that the copper can turn light hair green similar to chlorine . Me and one of our kids have light blonde hair lol.
My friend that's had one of these for 5 years has very light blonde hair herself. She's had zero issues. What you want to do is test every so often and make sure you keep the copper at required levels.
Question can you tell me the settings for the ionizer I had one but never known if I live it in 4 or more. Thank great video
To begin with I run my on 8 for the first few days after installation. Once you read copper levels in the pool with the test strips, I turn it down to 5 for the rest of the year. Monitor your copper levels and adjust as needed.
@@TKCL Thanks a lot 🙏
Thank you so much for the video and being so informative. We have been replacing all toxic chemicals in our house, and I have really been bothered by the thought of our grandkids continuing to spend the summer swimming in chemicals. I have a couple of questions. We just took our winter cover off today. (Southern West Virginia) Our water is green. 😅 Do we need to get it clear before we start using this system. Also, we used Baquacil last summer. Will that matter to this system, if any of that is still remaining in the water? Thanks so much.
Just ordered one. I’ll let you know.
A year later and our pool is still perfect, practically no maintenance.
@@TKCL have had mine in for about 4 weeks I am in central NC. After running at 4 for a few days I slowly dropped it now I keep it at a one and have for about 3 days the water is beautiful. I just left a review on Amazon with photos. I have a 18500 in ground and it works great.
Thank you for showing all of these products. I just bought an ionizer and it keeps getting buildup on it. Is that normal and do I clean just about every day?
I've just changed mine for the first time in a year. I never check it, but being copper I fully expect it to have an reaction and have build up.
This is cool! Thanks for sharing! I need to check into this
A year later and ours is working perfectly.
The water is crystal clear and that's awesome. And I'm not here to come across like a know it all. Just my thoughts are wondering about sanitization. Kids pee in the pool. Neighbors pee in the pool. Dogs play in the pool. I think that's where chlorine might still be necessary.
Nothing wrong with keeping a jug of liquid chlorine for those instances. I like to avoid chemicals when I can. After a pool party is not a bad time to do this.
Hey I really like your video but I got a question maybe you can answer for me I got an above ground pool 18' foot round pool by 48" deep you think I can use this on my pool I found out that they also have a floating one that does the same thing but my pool is only 6700 gallons what are your thoughts please advise thanks in advance 😊
You can use it on any pool, you will need to figure out how to adapt it into your filter or hoses.
Hi read some reviews let us know in a year how it's working
I will, but when our good friend has been running hers for over 5 years now, that's the best review I could ask for. Just had two more viewers say they have been running these for 2 years and 12 years respectively.
I have had mine about 14 years. Best thing since sliced bread 😊
So does the copper dissipate or gets filtered out? If not then once the water is saturated with copper wouldn’t you be good to go without adding more?
It gets flushed out with heavy rainfall, backwashing the filter ect.
Beautiful pool. Great video.💖
Thank you for watching
Hi Andrew 👋. I have the same copper system in my pool works amazing, but i decided to try salt water just to see. What i have noticed is a funny smell in our hair after using the pool. Have you guys had anything like that happen? Thank you and we love you guys, great content
Zero smell just using the ionizer. We are in the pool almost every single day.
Can you do a video on the install of this or at least give a basic idea how to install it? I love the videos by the way
Click the pool series Playlists on the channel, I showed my plumbing installation.
Hi Andrew ... could you please send me some information on the ionizer unit you are using .I live in europe and struggling to find a unit .many thanks Mitch
This is the one I use, specs are on this website but you will need to purchase from a EU site. amzn.to/3M9lxDS
I live in an area where it gets very cold in the winter. Do you know what “winterizing” would look like for us once we use the copper ionizer?
Same as normal, drain all lines and filters. The ionizer is a hollow tube so water will flow right out.
Do you know if this would work with a Coleman’s above ground pool? Ours doesn’t have a sand filter… would we need to put one in?
Should work with any pool, you'll need to find the adapters to put this I line with your hoses. You will also need to monitor the copper levels and adjust as needed.
Hello. So im wondering how i can lower my copper levels on my pool i have an intex 12x30 and put the ionizer you have . Now my copper levels are at 2 ppm. At what levels do you keep your pool? And how often do you run the ionizer? I have sand filter pump and I'm trying to not add any chemicals to my pool. Is it save to swimm in the pool with this much copper? I will really appreciate it your opinions since you have this ionizer and you seem to know alot.
There is adjustments on the front of the machine, up and down arrows. I typically run mine on 5 or 6. If your levels are high, go to a lower setting and monitor with the test strips. I never monitor mine to be honest, a setting of 5 or 6 running for roughly 9 hours a day is perfect for our 30ft pool. Being round we have a lot more water than you, so your results will vary.
Great video! My salt cell just quit for the second time and I'm going to try this route. Does anyone know if there's any problem with the salt that's already in my water? I'm really hoping I don't have to drain and refill... Thanks!
Actually people add salt to pools with these to get the TDS up for them to work well. I don't know if there is a point where you can have too much though.
That's great news! I already ordered the unit through your Amazon link. I'll do some research and update how it goes. I can't believe this system/method has been around for years and It's not more common. Thanks again for sharing your experience!
@@stemtosternms4438 it's not talked about or pushed because pool places love to sell you chemicals over and over. Make sure you run your pump around the clock the first couple of days and monitor the copper levels. Once established you can run as normal.
Does this power ionizer work with the regular pool paper filters? I assume that part doesnt make a difference as long as its hooked up right. Aloe, how big of a dofference is the "power ionizer" to the "pool ionizer" on amazon? Theres only a few dollars dofference, but i was cuious if anyone could tell what the difference is...? Great video! I subscribed!
I don't see why that should make any difference. As for the two different brands, I went with the power ionizer because that's what my friend has had for 6 years and it's been reliable.
So informative! Many Thanks for sharing your experienced wisdom with me! You mention a fountain that cools your pool off. Could you share that link with me here? I can't seem to find it 😱
Here is the video with links in the description.
Can you give me a basic set up for it I’m setting up a pool and I’d like to go this route what will I need in addition for the system?
That's going to vary based on your pump and hoses. You will need to get the ionizer and then the fittings that fit your filter or hoses.
I just put my pool up and purchased a salt filter and added salt. Could I still use this or do I have to dump all the water and add fresh water?
You need to test your TDS and see the range it's in. People actually add salt to get the TDS in range for the ionizers. With that said you could be too high, a partial flush might be required.
I just bought a house Nature’s Pure Fresh Water Mineral System. Is that the same thing but a different brand?
Not sure
What is the blue container that the copper is attached to .
Sand, for my sand filter.
You're quick
Do you have a video on set up and where to buy these things
@@cajunvegan7716 I try.
I have seen they have solar copper ionizers and was working if you have heard anything about them or have any opinions on them?
I've looked at them myself, reviews seem decent. I hadn't planned on running one because mine is working so well. Too much copper can cause staining issues.
What typenof vacuum do you use and recommend
Also we have been using a solar copper ionizer float.
This is the one I've been using for a year and it works great. amzn.to/3DRBXN4
I tried multiple cheaper models and they were all horrible. You get what you pay for.
That is a great set up yo have for your lazy man's pool. Using science instead of chemicals. I am curious how does the sunscreen and stuff like that get filtered out of the pool? Have you thought about building an outdoor shower and adding an outdoor bathroom? Guest wouldn't drip water through your house when the urge hits them. That would help keep the pee out of your pool too!
Yes I do have plans for those in the future. We try to limit how much sun screen we use. So far no issues seen.
May I ask where you purchased your pool ladder please? Thank you. Elizabeth
From Amazon, it now shows discontinued.
@@TKCL darn it! Thank you.
Is there a set up video
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I just got my pool installed I will be getting one of these units.did you use the salt for initial start up? I’m really interested in this unit. I’m here researching like crazy before I order it
I did not add salt, but I have heard of that working well to get your TDS up.
@@TKCL thanks. I will place my order.
@@zachary4225 link is in the video description to the exact model I bought.
@@TKCL yup. Got it from there
any links to the robot cleaner?
awesome video!!!!!
This is the one I use amzn.to/4cSE9TU Pricey but works very well. I tried several cheaper ones and they were all horrible.
Do you have a link for the actual above ground pool ?
I sure don't, we got it from Pool Warehouse. I believe it was called the Deep Dubai
What do you think of the floating pool ionizers for a small pool above ground of course
Have not tried those yet.
I would like to see if there’s a pool cooler other than the fountain
There is, I'll be building one eventually 😉
Like a fancy version of PoolRx
Nice to know, shade sails should make a cool video 👍
Don't want to ruin my view, we love swimming at night and looking at the stars.
This was a really interesting video. Just out of curiousity, do you know what your copper levels are typically at? Sorry if I missed this in the video. The tests from the pool store (Leslie's) have an acceptable copper range from 0-0.2ppm, and I've always avoided using copper algaecide to stay within this range. I also have an inground with a
Zero staining issues. I rarely check my levels, but last week I was 0.4 ppm.
Where did you purchase that pool??
Pool warehouse online.
Awesome thanks!! i love your setup!!
Whats the size? How deep is it? Im looking at poolwarehouse
Dimensions? Also did u buy the sand filter from there? I would love to try that setup and also with the ionizer system
It's a 27 ft pool called The Deep Dubai, it's 54 in deep. I did buy the sand filter from them in the package deal. The ionizer I bought off of amazon, links are in this video's description.
Got one have algae problem any ideas what to do ionzer is set on 3.
I never run mine below 5 or 6. You need to set it to 8 and run your pump around the clock for a few days. Use the provided test strips and go back to a lower setting only after you see copper residual on the test strips. Make sure you are cleaning your filters or back flushing. I then run my filter 1 hour a day per 10 degrees. 90 degree temperature, run for 9 hours a day with the ionizer running during that time.
Dang that's a good pool cleaner... But my old pool was sent up for saltwater and after 5 years of splashing and use the metal side supports started rusting out 🫣🫣
Yep, another reason I wanted to avoid salt.
I have a few questions that maybe you could answer. If you used a tablet dispenser, how is it that you don't have any chemicals? Don't tablet have stabilizer? Did you completely disregard the setup instructions on the ionizer as well as the maintenance instructions? If so, this seems to be a problem as the copper effectiveness is dependent on balanced water chemistry. How are you killing fecal bacteria as copper doesnt kill it? How are you oxidizing bather waste? Copper has a much much lower rate of disinfection compared to chlorine, how are you handling that? I really want to get away from chemicals, but don't see how this will do that reliably? I read the amazon reviews for the linked product and most are still using chlorine regularly. Please help.
I am trusting 5 years of my friends experience. She does not add chemicals (chlorine) unless she has a bunch of kids over and has a big party, that's rare. All she has done for 5 years ran a copper ionizer. If you have heavy sunblock usage and potential spoiling of the pool from large activities or gatherings, I'd highly recommend you keep liquid chlorine on hand to hit the pool with after those occasions. I might do the same myself to make me feel a little better. With all that said, the ionizer by itself is keeping my pool algae free and clear during one of the hottest summers on record.
@@TKCL Thanks for the reply. I think you said it best, the ionizer is keeping the algae at bay and the water is clear. My issue and concern is sanitation as the copper is 50 to 100 times slower than chlorine at killing bacteria. Clear water doesn't equal safe water.
Again years of people I know using it and I've heard of no ill effects. If the concern is there, liquid chlorine is your friend.
I just put a small mesh bag of Copper Sulfate in my strainer basket. Nothing else.$12/yr
I do that too. Add some chlorine every couple of weeks and a teaspoon of CS. No algae and the water is clean.
Does this ionizer not leave any metals in the water? Or is everyone using products to pull the metal out?
There is a small risidual, you use copper test strips to keep it in range.
When you hook up the ionizer is there anything special that you have to do or add?
Company does recommend weekly shock and additives, I have not added those. But I would always suggest following the manufactures recommendations.
@@TKCL thanks! Wish me luck. I'm hooking mine up this evening
Keep in mind that you have to build copper levels in your pool. So run it around the clock for a few days until you get a reading on your test strips. Took 3 days for mine to keep the water clear, no issues since.
Did you have to add any special chemicals at all when you first installed this kit?
I did not, but I had heard people recommend adding salt to the pool at the very beginning I'm not sure why.
The pool store where we purchased ours said you have to add salt because the copper and silver ions have to have something to bind to in the water to be able to create sanitizer, we had to add 80 pounds for our 30’x54” above ground pool.
Will the copper level in the pool be high? Kids gulping water or just absorbing it don’t want any OD type stuff happening. Wondering.
Can't be worse than all those chemicals. You use copper test strips to keep levels in check and adjust the ionizer accordingly. The only problems I've heard of with high copper levels is hair and waterline staining.
@@TKCL oh didn’t see that there is a copper test strip. I only see half of anything I watch because one of my young’ins walks in talking.
Thanks for the reply.
@@TKCL Our granddaughters' beautiful blonde hair all turned green last summer when we were using a copper ionizer. I don't know what to do. We loved how it worked otherwise, but their moms were pretty upset about their daughters' hair.