KnifeCenter FAQ #6: Is Blade Steel Important? + Cold Steel, New Knife Recommendations, More
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- A new knife to replace your Shuffle, Cold Steel combos, and an affordable alternative to Reate and Liong Mah.
0:00 Intro
0:30 Upgrading the CRKT Shuffle
4:03 Affordable Alternatives to Reate and Liong Mah
6:28 Best Small Knives
9:10 Best Medium Outdoor Belt Knife Under $150
11:54 Cold Steel Fixed and Folding Combos
16:02 Does Blade Steel Matter?
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16:02 Thank you for answering my question! This is such a great channel. Keep up the great content.
I really appreciate this legend's honesty about blade steel.
We’re spoiled in the modern era of knives, in that even budget knives have workable steels that won’t immediately dull, and we can disassemble and clean them with relative ease. I suppose an argument can be made for the ultimate capability of a knife, e.g. what it can do if pressed, but for most of us, we buy premium steels knowing that they will outperform us.
We’re also in the era of overpriced junk with weak heat treats. Market is over saturated with high end poorly heat treated “super steel”.
You are absolutely right when it comes to steel. There is a lot of corksniffing going on, and a lot of marketing.
I have a lot of knifes made of the 420 and 440 steel family, and all this blades still are in good shape, hold an edge quite a while, are easy to sharpen, even in the field.
So are my Cold Steel knifes, made of SK5, AUS 8 / 10, 8Cr13MoV, even 4116, Cold Steel knows how to heat threat their steel. They had me 35 years back, when I bought my first San Mai Tanto and the Trail Master in good old Carbon V.
Why spending three times the money for CPM3V, D2 or other "supersteels" when I even don't use the blade on a daily basis, as lot of the people do? Not everybody is a hunter, goes fishing or hiking for weeks or uses his personal knife for bushcraft or survival.
There is nothing wrong with a 440 c blade steel. If you have the money and if you are not afraid of eventually losing your knife somewhere in the woods, maybe because you are a collector and keep your knifes in the drawer, you are free to buy expensive knifes with supersteel blades.
You do yours. But there's no need to put a knife down just because it is made of not so expensive steel.
I'm an avid backpacker, but I don't spend money on high end knives for that purpose. I bring a good fixed blade and a folder with steels that are really easy to sharpen with my WS field sharpener.
True, also 95% of all the "knifenuts" dont even use their shit the way it's designed and build for... I can't understand buying any sort of hard use/overbuild folder and only rip up amazon boxes with it.
Good every day carry knife is the Spyderco Delica.
I’m really enjoying this FAQ series. DCA is very knowledgeable. Production value of the KC videos is very good as well.
Thanks for the kind words Matt!
Favorites now because of "ease" of maintenance are the German steels, Elmax and Bohler M390.
Funny you’d be talking about 440c, my son in-law was asking about a brand he seen on FB (ya dirty word) I’m telling him to stay away because of the difficulties sharpening the blade profile and steel it’s a Whiteknuckeler in 440c. I actually love the design and that you can scout carry but neither one of us are pros at sharpening and I’m not sure this is worth the money $150. I’m like you I like premium steel but your quote at the end was correct! “Life’s short carry what you like and learn to sharpen” Actually leaning toward the White River Caper myself! Thanks I love y’all’s vids
Loving the FAQ format and the flat out honesty of the answers. I live in the UK and have started shopping with knife centre because of this.
Maybe the best steels were the ones we met along the way.
The best steel was inside us all along.
@@stevenkelby2169 hopefully NOT LOL
I appreciate your honesty. The steels you mentioned- aus8 and 440c, are the ones I use the most with excellent results. I am doing my own sharpening so there is no problem. I have knives in 3v, 35vn but don't use them much and some of them I gave to friends as gifts. In the field, well treated 1095, 440c, 5160, aus 8a it's all I need. Greetings from France.
16:15 preach it....👽
Kudos DCA for saying that
Really enjoy this platform. Simple and to the point. Thumbs up.
I always enjoy all of your videos. Thank you for doing these.
I absolutely agree. Don’t be afraid of 8Cr13Mov from a well known manufacturer like Spyderco or Cold Steel. I edc a Spyderco Tenacious because I love the design and couldn’t be happier.
Cold Steel fixed/folding combo for the woods - Barong Machete + Spartan. One-tool-hiking-camping option - Rajah II - It's a short folding machete.
I've been using a Kershaw speedsafe folding knife for 2 years now bought it at Walmart for $12 best knife I ever had. use it everyday for everything even cooking lol and my fixed blade that I carry when I'm doing outdoor skills is a joker from Spain or the cold steel srk. My neck knife choice is tops.
Really like this freeform FAQ format. Thanks DCA!
Glad you are enjoying it. More to come!
You are right about steel. With the sharpening systems LIKE Spyderco & Edge Pro sharpening is a "KINDA" a breeze now-a-days...
I find the digital angle tool ANGLE TOOL fun for the Edge Pro - Plus make yourself a few buffalo strops on a few blanks.
The POLISH you get on the balde(s) is fantastic.
Appreciate your answer sir🙏🏼 I’ll definitely go for para 3 Specifically that color u showed.
Thanks for the question Ali, may the knife serve you well! -DCA
I repair things and need a reliable edc. My collection is small but the steel ranges from 440 and 8cr13mov to 154cm, s30v through to s110v. More often than not ill be carrying my cheap leatherman crater over a spyderco etc. because the crater does what i need it to do and im not precious about it. Edge retention isnt as good, but it sharpens easily. The premium knives all have great feel and features but being budget concious means they dont get the same level of use. I think choosing the right blade shape and grind with a decent heat treat is more important to me than a more premium steel.
Glad you suggested Becker BK16. Fabulous knife. I stripped mine and then used mustard to finish it. Came out great. Sharp as hell. Easy to sharpen. I then used tennis racket grip tape and WOW what a knife. It lives in my truck door and is used nearly daily. Why over spend?
I have the para 3 it's just a real cool knifet all together. The only thing my fingers hurt from doing the spydi flick all the time. it's not that I use all the time it's just addicting when you learn how to do it.
The most important facet of knife steel, which also happens to be the hardest to quantify on your own, is heat treatment. A custom heat treated cpm 154 will blow a production m390/204p/20cv out of the water.
I Agree, 100% steel needs to be easy to maintain. 154cm or com.
I agree with you about EDC knives steels, anyways, if I can choose, I prefere a tough steel with a good edge retention but not hard to sharpen for folders. I care my knives so I don't really need a high rust resistance. So for exemple mk5, 1095, O1 or CPM M4 for me.
Cold Steel, I would like to see more folders in mk5.
Thanks for the video!
Great reviews Thanks.
I like D2. Then 154cm .
Great steel that I can sharpen ,THANKS DAVID
my woods carry is the Benchmade 202 Leuku & 200 Puuko.
although id really like a Bark River Bravo 2 in 3V (7") & a Gunny Bravo (3.75")
Cold Steel Combo: SRK, the regular size version in SK-5. It is a nice, and comfortable knife. I am really liking my recent purchase of the Air Lite. Very underrated knife. Love the blade design, lightweight and feels good in the hand. Might be slightly overpriced for the materials. Worth it to me and my choice even over the Recon 1 and the Lawman. Later.
Man I love the Cold Steel AD-10. I need to get one. I really wish they made the exact knife in a smaller version.
i love ur honest answer on the lst one👌🏻
I think your opinion is shared by most people and sometimes I think my knife life would be less complicated if I shared your views on steel. At least for my folders...
I'm very particular, and like K390 or S90V on my folders, because of how they cut. They're aggressive steels, packed with carbides, that slice so well. The edge retention is nice, but the quality of the slice is just so satisfying that it has become my favorite characteristic of these steels.
My fixed blades don't really matter, as long as the steel is tough enough or stainless enough. Edge retention and exotic steels aren't important on my fixed blades.
My coldsteel combination is fixed Leatherneck SF with the Counter Point 1/ AUS 8. My favorite steel is AUS 8 it holds an edge well for the price.
14c28n very well balanced steel-not crazy edge retention but takes a super edge and holds it nicely,i also really like bdz-1,going on the other end Maxamet is really great edge holding had my manix LW a couple years still in love for sure
Wise words at the end! Doesn't hurt to collect or own higher end pieces either. Carry/buy what you like! Peace out DCA!
Love it white river caper next one on my list!!! Thanks DCA!
Thank you such a great review
Words of Wisdom! Thank You Sir!
love the FAQ series keep it up.
I like 1095 , 01 , A2 , AEB-L , because these steels are good enough for me easy to sharpen in the field or at home no complaints . These also cost way less on quality knives like LT Wright knives , Great Eastern cutlery and others .
Brave admission on knife steel...Hope this isn’t your last broadcast!! Lol
That's how I feel every time I express my preference for carbon steel on knife subreddits. Yeah, I don't post anymore. It's all about preference, though. I like the knives I have, and I don't want everyone to have the same thing as me either.
Glad to see the cat getting some love.
@ 16:14 Thank you very much for answering that question honestly. I appreciate it.
I am not a steel aficionado but I have a few Leathermans. What I do know is that the 154CM is light years better than the 420HC. Enough to put me off getting some of them.
What folding knives would you recommend that have substantial hand filling handles for a large hand? I like the look of the Spyderco Shaman but I'm struggling to find comparable knives. An important factor for me is a handle that is amenable to inverted grips, e.g. chest lever cuts. Most of the larger hard-use knives seem to have grooves and juts on the lower side that make upside-down grips somewhat unusable.
David thanks for the FAQ. My question is what are some good home knife storage options not necessarily for display but for practical purposes?
Blade HQ knife roll nylon storage case
Awesome to see my question answered thank you so much 🙏🏼 as stated in my question (I know mine) my answer is the recon Tanto and the SR 1 (I like the lite) but I know the steel is better on the original SR1
Thanks for the question, I had fun answering it! Good picks btw. -DCA
@@knifecenter I realized my answer is a little confusing.... so to be clear I like the SR1 LITE (but I know most others would go with the original) I mean for $59 each you can get both versions of the lite and still come in a little cheaper than the original lol thanks again DCA 🙏🏼🤙🏼
I like my seal pup Elite from SOG. It's AUS 8 but man it's a lethal little knife and I would bet my life on it to perform as it was intended to. Steel doesn't really matter to me either, it's the design and functuality of the knife. I know how to sharpen a knife so no biggie there. Also I have had 440 c blades from Entrek knives and boy do they perform like knives twice their asking price.
I agree I am not as big on premium steel as I am ease of use and easy to maintain. So I tend to use a lot more budget friendly options. As long as the blade sharpens well. I mean I used an AUS 6 Voyager as a carry knife while in Kosovo.
Hi David, really enjoy your channel. Your knowledge about knives are impressive. Can you please show the Chaves ultramar redencion with micarta, not in my budget at the moment, but I think a good grail knife (of course with with the large sebenza making up the rest of my grail). Would really like you thoughts on the Ferrum Forge stinger in g10. Is Nitro V any good? I love to see your slightly larger than average knife collection!
Hi David, Really enjoying the new FAQ vids, great stuff. My Q's is "a little out of left field" I'm looking for a new axe, #bushcraft, I've been rocking a Fiskars 15" composite hatchet no complaints but, I'm looking for something a little more capable and classic?
Really cool video. You know 1095 gets thrown to the side a lot but kabar crovan in my experience holds a decent edge and will go back to wicked sharp with little effort. I am one of the lovers of the BK2. You can do a LOT with it for it’s size
1095 and O1 are both like that old farm truck that never quits! Love the stuff -DCA
I can't recommend the white river caper enough. I don't use it as a neck knife, but rather as a small fixed blade edc. 👍👍
For $20 more you can get the Bradford guardian 3 in M390 and 3D micarta.
@@jaysgood10 I have the 3d micarta in AEBL and, after some sanding on the scales, it's my 2nd fav. The hard sheath and tek-lok were extra.
For $155 the caper feels great in hand, has S35VN, and comes with sheath.
There's no other knives that you can take apart at any time in under 10 seconds without using tools (none i know of at least) so that's why i choose the ken onion crkt homefront tactical. It's coated so no rust. Only 80 bucks, its the best knife for the money I've ever bought.
Finally, someone in the industry who admits the fixation on blade steel is misplaced. For EDC, function and ergonomics are more important than steel composition. I've found brilliantly designed, well made folders with plain jane 440 for under $10, and don't hesitate to rely on them as fully as my 'upscale' knives.
Was wanting a recommendation for wood carving pocket knife or smaller fixed blade that has a good blade steel, most of what I see offered has either non descriptive or not very good steel .
My favourite knife has been the Gerber Swagger with a combo Edge, being carrying it for more than 10 years. I think it's discontinued looking for a knife exactly like it's about 3 inches half serrated framelock under $70 tip down carry didn't mind the steel something stainless would be great 👍
Dude that was before the buyout before gerbers buy out they were amazing knives
@@koga8100 I was unaware it's still going strong ,the blade wiggles a lil because I open beer with it need to learn how to titen the screw and sharpen it
I agree with you about knife steel 100%. If you buy a 5 dollar knife it will probaly dull after a few uses but you can get some really nice knifes under 50 that are not premium knife steel but hold an edge good. I laughed when you said learn how to sharpen because a lot of people want to buy a good knife that holds an edge for a long time but don't know how to get a knife very sharp. Once you know how to sharpen you can have your knife razor sharp in 5 minutes especially with all of the new convenient sharpening systems out there. Just spend a little time learning how to do it and you're set for life. No knife stays sharp for ever. However I am a guy who spends more money on premium steels because the knife will essentially last longer if you don't have to sharpen it as much and I want my knife to last long enough that they have sentimental value because I like my knifes that much 😆
Hey David, For a newbie like me, could you give us a quick rundown of the different types of steel in the knives you showcase? There seem to be quite a few! Which type keeps an edge the longest? Thanks!
great work
💯 agree with you stance blade steel! Find a knife you love get the best steel in comes in/or you can afford and enjoy your knife. They make sharpers for a reason...learn to use them lol
i'm glad to see you not panning the AUS-8. I live right next to the ocean so, it's corrosion resistance is pretty valuable for an EDC. Sure I wish that every knife was available in LC200N or something like that but, it's not always an option and H1 is a little gummy for my taste.
@z z more than you would think. it's been my experience anyhow. more easy to keep clean than my D2 and CPM3V knives for sure. Definitely not stainless but, just different enough for me to notice.
@z z the knife i'm talking about specifically is an older Rat 1. I will fully admit that I may have a magic knife that has a "bad" AUS-8 mix.
I like aus 8 and 154cm. I love my cold steel recon 1 i carry it the most. Easy to sharpen and holds an edge very well. I could use one a little smaller but not by a lot any suggestions
My combo is a cold sterl srk san mai lll and a gerber flatiron.
A normal voice, in the Covid-19 madness, very relaxing👍
Love your Steel comment . Geometry maintenance and design are key. Steel far behind . Credentials ? Army, Trail guide , Chef , Pro knife sharpener. For a pocket knife I still prefer serrated. Fixed, Carbon steel. So what do I know ?
Great vid, thank you.
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Love the series! Is there a story behind your aversion to "lashing" a knife onto a stick creating that "spear" survival option? I know it used to be a popular feature in the past but don't see it as much these days. Just curious thx!
In a survival situation, your blade is likely one of your most important assets, and you wouldn't want to lose it in a "spear" scenario gone wrong. I do see limited uses for it though. If you need to cut something out of a tree - an ejected pilot needing to cut his pack out of an otherwise unreachable tree branch is a classic example - or to access food that could be there. Otherwise, if you need a spear for defensive or hunting uses, keep your knife safe and unlost on your hip and carve a point into your pole and fire harden it. -DCA
For something like making a spear or arrow I would use a "Throwing knife" .They are cheap and you can get them in sets, plus if you lose one your not out much. I have full size and extra small ones in my packs from just this reason.
This guy is so good!
Since we all been talking about knives and everyone knows that the edge don’t let forever , so we gotta keep them sharp Dave! What is your goto knife sharpener, or routine you use to keep yours nice and hair poppin sharp?
My main sharpener/maintainer is a homemade strop with wet-dry sandpaper (in 320 grit and 800 grit as needed). If I need more than that or a full reprofile, I use my knife grinder. Here is a vid on my stropping technique: th-cam.com/video/_FeShET043E/w-d-xo.html
KnifeCenter thanks DCA I think apostle Paul uses that same set up, thanks again for the support!! Just an amazing channel! Knife center rocks!!!!
I like the Spyderco tri angle sharpening system. It's easy to use and boy does it bring out the sharpness of the steel. It's quite bulky though so in the field I'd use a small diamond fine grit sharpener.
@@matthewgrizzle3528 I got it but I don’t like the angels 35 and 40, I only use 17-20 degrees. Think I’m gonna get a wicked edge!
@@knifeaddict1014 I use 15 degree angle. I don't follow the recommended degrees they have set.
Do you think benchmade will ever make a spring assist bugout? Do you think they would ever consider letting me pair the carbon fiber elite scales with the m4 unfinished steel? Looking for a thinner replacement for my mini-barrage that I snapped the blade on.
I love m4 In a edc knife, but I know how to sharpen pretty good, so it doesn't matter if it's hard to sharpen.
I recently bought a Spyderco Tenacious and love the size and shape, and I want to take the next step into a quality Spyderco. What knife you would recommend as a second Spyderco?
I have larger hands and looking for something with a little different shape than the Tenacious but still with a good Spyderco feel.
Thanks!
For larger hands, I would say check out the Manix 2 (the XL version especially) as well as the Paramilitary 2. Both offer substantial grip and some cool Spyderco locking mechanisms.
Manix: kcoti.com/2FlPi5E
Paramilitary 2: kcoti.com/3nDIkuh
Steel has clearly become a selling point for knives but to me as a collector, there isn't enough time in the day to blunt all my knives and I feel that I would actually buy more if I wasn't paying so much for super steel. I wonder if a large firm like Spyderco could offer a new design in two steel options, one of them more affordable and see which sells best. Something like S30V or VG10 is really all I need.
I can personally attest to the Kendo as a great mid-size pocket knife.
Hey DCA, I agree with your comments about gravitating to a steel that can be maintained. You didn't mention any high end steels in your comment. I am a Spyderco fan and I have found that, for high end steels, S30v , CTS-XHP and Cruware fall into this good maintenance category (as opposed to an s110v or similar). What high end steel (if any) fall into this good maintenance category for you?
I haven't extensively used Cruwear yet, but I am planning on changing that at some point. For me, 3V is a good contender. It obviously isn't as easy to sharpen as most non-particle steels, but for the effort it takes, I do seem to get a better "return on time-investment" in the edge holding department. -DCA
Hey DCA, im looking for an edc fixed blade, i definitely want scout carry, and preferably micarta handles. my budget it around $125, im thinking the Tops BOB, or the esee4 with contoured handles. thanks for your suggestions
I carry a TOPS c.a.t. everyday. The kydex sheath can rotate to be carried at any angle. They have different handle options to include Micarta.
GreaT..!!! SERIES really enjoying the content, I have a question do you know of any flipper type knives being made in 1095 carbon steel really would love to have that steel in a flipper, carried a Schrade Old timer Stockman for 20 plus years, still have it , but as you said, i really like the Crossbones design ( Aus 8) , so I carry that and a Artisan Waistline in D2 ( I need a Diamond stone to get the D2 to pop), use to carry all three but recently semi retired the Old Timer... any suggestions..??? I have looked but it does not seem that anyone makes them....thanks for the videos..!!!
For the belt knife i would have suggested the srk in San mai just below $150
What recommendation do you have for a $75 and under knife with premium construction,fit n finish,and handle material. Blade material doesn't matter.
Great vid as always ! Just received the SRK-C now going together with my SRK Carbon V. Such an underrated great little blade. Next step from Cold Steel has to be a Recon Tanto Compact. What do you think about it ?
I actually haven't picked one up. I'll make sure to scope one out on the next day I am in the office -DCA
The Micro Recon, right? I dig it. Even though it is a two-finger grip it feels solid in hand. Steel is serviceable and gotta love the Tri-Ad Lock on such a small design.
@@knifecenter No I mean a little compact version of their fixed blade Recon Tanto. That would be a bestseller! You meant the Micro Recon folder which is too small for me to operate. I already know that CS will bring us back the Recon 1 Mini folders, all in satin finish. Damn, I can't wait for it...
What is the biggest and heaviest neck knife you can comfortably carry? And would a thicker neck lanyard change that?
It is all so individual. I know a gentleman that neck carried a Becker BK16 in a custom Kydex rig. Seemed excessive to me, but he loved it lol! -DCA
Are there knives similar to the spydiechef / liong mah kuf 2 at a more afordable price? I rather like the way they look and they are close to perfect for my edc needs, but they are way out of my budget. Lets say hard $130 max.
I recently got my wife a Kershaw shuffle . She hates not having a flipper tab . What edc knife under $50 would you recommend that is like the shuffle but with a flipper tab ? (not spider hole)
Hey Dave, wondering if you've heard of or dealt with Grizzly Blades out of Toronto? They make damascus steel knives from 1095 and 15N20 nickel steel. Wondering what you make of their knives (if you've had the chance to make something) and what you think of the steel combo and damascus in general.
Thanks for the content, it goes great with a beer. Cheers!
1095 isn’t the toughest steel on its own, 15n20 is very tough. When you forge weld them together they they kind of equalize. I’ve gotten 1095/15n20 PWS very hard and very thin and it had excellent ductility.
Not especially familiar with them, but that steel combo is fairly common for Damascus.
I like my CPM 10V, CPM 20CV, and Rex 45.
Hey David, I’ve been getting into front flippers recently, (I’ve got a Civivi Exarch and I love the fidget factor, but the handle doesn’t give me that “edc” feeling). Could you recommend a good front flipper that’s under $100?
The Real Steel Rokot is pretty nice in my humble opinion.
I got microtech bounty hunter from you guys pretty badass knife thank you guys.
Question, what is a knife that isn't super well known that you think every EDC collector should have? Ballpark $150 area. Thank you!
Hey DCA what do you think about safe queens I bought from KC a large Sebenza 21 Lunar Landing anniversary with the intention of using it as my EDC just to flex but since it was my first CRK and first high dollar knife I immediately put it in my safe and give it a white glove treatment whenever I pick it up on one hand I want to use it like the tanks that the Sebenzas are but at the same time it cost a good amount
Do with the knife what makes you happy! I was like that with my first Sebenza, a small 21 with bocote inlays. I bought it to use as my gentleman's knife but I was always nervous to use it. I powered through and now that it has picked up a few scratches on the handle I can carry it without pause! That said, I do buy some knives with the intention of putting them on display/in my collection. -DCA
love my spyderco
My current EDC is a SAK Trekker that i filed the serrations off of. Also do you happen to know what kind of steel Olsen knives are made of?
Hard to say with any certainty. They likely used various materials throughout their history.
D2 or VG10 are great value for money steels.
Cold Steel fixed + folder combo?
Magnum Tanto XII and Recon 1 tanto. Any day.
Para3LW M390 is my edc now.
Decent steel, so steel and heat treat are important (Good D2 or. Better) , ease of use. IE: spider hole or flipper
Paramilitary 2 is 1 of my favorite EDC....
Mr. Andersen! Hope all is well. I really enjoy your videos. I pre-ordered a sebenza 31 about a week ago from knife center. Any idea how long I should be waiting? We talking weeks, months? No hurry, just curious.
I can't say for sure but it might be a bit. They have been having trouble keeping up with demand and we still haven't seen a consistent supply coming in. We've got plenty on order but we get 'em when we get 'em unfortunately!
@@knifecenter Good to know! Thanks for the reply!
For me too, the steel isn't the most important part of the knife. The design is much more in the foreground. (I hope you can say that in English). Also, I like to maintain my knifes. Take them apart, clean them, oil them, sharpen and strop them. It's all part of being a knife owner. (But of course I advise not to choose any of the no name steels out there)
Personally, I don't give a hoot about blade steel. My blades are all made of cheap steel. A Mora Basic 511 costs around 4-5 dollars at the hardware store here in Sweden. Holds up perfectly (for my use). Edge retention is not a big thing for pocket knives you use occasionally for small tasks. I like the steel in Victorinox knives. Very rust resistant and easy to maintain and sharpen. I really don't use my knives that much so I don't need crazy edge retention.