KnifeCenter FAQ #21: DCA’s Folders + How Much to Spend on Kitchen Knives, The Altoids Survival Knife
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ค. 2024
- When starting from scratch, how to you build your kitchen knife collection? We also look at the last 5 folding knives David has bought, and where to start with an Altoids Tin Survival Kit.
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0:00 Intro
0:39 Handle materials that can withstand petroleum lubricants
4:16 A full kitchen knife set for under $150
11:18 Edge maintenance for kitchen and EDC knives
12:30 The last 5 folding knives David has bought
16:08 A more affordable Hinderer?
17:51 Altoids Tin Survival Fixed Blade
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David C. Anderson is absolutely killing it. Rather than shilling the next big thing because what is stamped on the blade, he delivers real knowledge and expertise.
Also, on the topic of affordable Hinderers, take a look at the Viper Storm.
I wasn’t in the market at all for kitchen knives....but after listening to DCA explain his take and philosophy about kitchen knives and how detailed he was..... I think I’ll be getting a kitchen knife set sometime soon 🤣🤣😂😂
As a knife guy that also likes cooking, I actually got pretty enthusiastic when you answered the kitchen knife question with "spend money on fewer better knives instead" 😄 so good to see! I find there are only about five knives I use frequently, and having those in good steel + a few cheap "the good ones are all in the wash and I just need to open this packet" paring knives is totally the way to go. Plus obviously you can upgrade as you go. 100% beats buying someone else's idea of a knife block and wasting a chunk of your budget on a few you never use.
Just made a chicken soup using only my benchmade super Freek lol
I agree with the comment about the locking mechanisms not placing your fingers in the path of the blade. I wish more makers would offer more models using those styles of locks.
Man I could have used your kitchen knives suggestion like 6 months ago! I basically came to the same conclusion, but it would have saved me some time lol
David you rock - I love this series and just hearing your knowledge on knives
Dude, your videos are meditative to watch. You are so calm and knowledgeable. Thank you.
Dang, the salesman came out of him when talking about kitchen knives. I about bought me some kitchen knives and I don't even cook.
DCA always does such a great job with the Knife Center videos.
There's an Altoids tin video out there that features a Mora Eldris that's been stripped of the handle and had the tang cut down a bit to fit in the tin. Pretty cool tbh. $20
Neat! -DCA
I confirm, the pronunciation of Due Cigni was correct, actually not bad. Thanks David.
I agree about the magnetic bar for kitchen, it is a good solution and hallow to keep our knives clean.
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@@jaysgood10 im gonna keep spelling it wrong now to annoy you lol
I look forward to each of these, I have carried a knife since 1957 and still learn something with every one. So good thanks
This guy always provides good information and details for those who love knives. Keep it up David!!!
Always look forward to seeing your weekly updates.. thanks during these difficult times.
I love the thought you put into these. Thanks for the great info, DCA!
Thank you for the recommendations. Again love the series. 💪
Glad you liked them, and thank you! -DCA
Thank you, as always, Mr. Andersen!
Loved it. Especially the kitchen knives. I'm looking for a new set and this video was timely. Thanks and keep up the great work you do
Really appreciate you taking the time to answer my last question. FOR YOUR NEXT MISSION, IF YOU CHOOSE TO ACCEPT IT David Andersen will be to find the best bang for your buck knife in the midrange bracket. The 100-300 range is saturated with some of the best designs out there. I know it's subjective, but I'm talking nose to tail, knife steel, grind/shape, handle material, ergonomics, fit and finish, mechanism, price, weight/length ratio, utility, reliability, deployment, and fidget factor. I leave it open to your interpretation, but I'm looking for a diamond in the rough. This message will self destruct once button lock folders flood the market.
I like your formula for breakdown of cost on the kitchen knives. Im a chef by trade and I am adopting this explanation. Keep the videos comin! #DCAoverBHQ
Liked by knifecenter! My dreams are finally coming to fruition...
He's 100% right about kitchen knives: you really only need a few. Chef's knife, small veggie knife, serrated bread knife. Learn to sharpen them and keep them sharp. Store them on a magnet strip. These knives feed you. Treat them with respect.
Hey David, I agree my favorite set is a 7 pcs. Wustof chef set that absolutely 💯 love.
Thank you sir, always great content. 👍
Love that kitchen set
I like your knife style, David. Nice vid
Another good and timely FAQ. We're looking for a new kitchen knife set for the in-laws. I like how you broke down your thought process. Thanks!
Very good advice for kitchen knives. I did ezzzactly what you recommended: 8" chef, bread, carving and paring knives do everything I need. And scissors! No knife block...they just sit on a dry cutting board or on the bench top.
Great vigeo, thanks David and KnifeCenter.
Got the Tekna, they should make the sheath fit onto the back of the handle to add a longer grip.
Love my Malibu! Great info Thanks DCA! 👍👊
Great info as always David.
Great FAQ, you did a super job with the kitchen knife set up. I retrained by going to culinary school after OTJ firefighting injuries. I've bought a lot of kitchen/restaurant knives and those were very usable suggestions that would work really well. Could even tournee some potatoes and carrots with that lil veggie knife. ;)
I really need to focus and buy one of the Hogue Deka's one of these days. So many knives, so little time. lol
Good work my friend
Thank you Big Dave I will definitely look into the ZT 0562
before the tri way pivot alot of people thought the 0562 was better than an actual Hinderer. I have the standard G-10 version and it is the smoothest knife in my collection, and i have an xm 18 with the tri way....that titanium version is better than the standard g10...if i were you i would get it...you will not be dissapointed...it's got the updated 20cv steel too
Great video.
Thanks for showing your folders DCA. We have very similar taste in knives based on those last three. All are on my list. I wish I hadn't missed that Para 3 S45VN sprint as my Para 3 Lightweight just doesn't quite do it for me.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a video strictly on keychain and fifth pocket knives !!!! Love your informative videos, thanks for all you do, two thumbs WAY up !! L 👍👍
Keychain: th-cam.com/video/54YumGPjO7Q/w-d-xo.html
5th Pocket: th-cam.com/video/ZhyJj8XMnPY/w-d-xo.html
Cheers!
David can't talk tonight. LOL. Love your vids Mr Anderson. Keep it up 👍
Dude I got a Malibu when they first came out lady that runs her husband's company selling knives online ordered me one straight from Dave over at protech, its over double the price on eBay but I have hung on to mine an I'm so glad! I love it! It is probably my favorite knife its between the Malibu or the magic whiskers hidden boaster release auto of course both are protech. PT is the absolute best production knife out there I swear by it!
If you're looking for an inexpensive Hinderer get the Kershaw Cryo.
Importing or exporting ?
I am surprised you did not mention a mini-bugout. It is supposed to fit into an Altoids tin.
The question was specifically about fixed blades for an altoids tin. Though I would certainly say you get a lot more utility per size with a folding option.
You do a great job
Olfa Craft Knife CK-2 is also a good altoids choice and you can have replacement blades as well.
HI David, great custom answers! :) I'm looking for a small EDC fixed blade inspirations, and since you like fixies, could you tell which model(s) would you take to the office, to the forest and for a road trip?
Hey David! Question, do you have any space themed knives? Whether in name, or style, or whatever? Anything that has to do with space?! Thank you for all that you do!
Hey David! Loving the series a lot, you and the KC crew are doing great. Anyways, what fixed blade and folder would you carry if you could only have one each for the REST OF YOUR LIFE?
Love your series and channel. I love a stag and other horn handle. Can you talk about stag quality and some other natural horn quality and desirable characteristics. Thanks so much.
David, what are some modern knives that draw inspiration from iconic blades of the past?
Hey there, DCA, great series. What can you recommend in a hollow grind wharncliffe that will be regularly used on heavy cardboard, packing tape, pallet straps and zip ties? I'd prefer a stainless steel that will hold and edge long enough for a night's work on said materials. Fixed or folder though i wouldn't want a fixed blade to print much. A folder I would prefer on washers and wouldn't want to spend more than $200 on whichever one. Thanks.
knife blocks just soak up dirt and bacteria, go with the magnetic strip
Heard anything from Leatherman this year?
Can you do a comparison of the Lionsteel Myto and Viper Knives Turn.
Thank you for answering my questions... really good recommendation. As an international buyer what ever I choose I end up paying 30 to 40 % of the product cost as custom duty plus international shipping 🙃
Happy to help! -DCA
David, are there any titanium folders out there (2-5-3” blade length) that have a polished/machined finish? Seems like everything out there is matte grey and tumbled or flamed. Looking for something to match my machined ti pen and flashlight. I haven’t spent more than $350 on a knife before, but would it if was just the right item.
I have a request, with the multitude of after market pocket deployer options, and deep carry pocket clips can you recommend a knife I require for urban self defense, I need I knife that’s completely inconspicuous in the pocket, but with practice a short thin pocket clip will aid in the fastest possible deployment
Hey David, Questions for the Q&A. Why haven't more manufacturers used thickness behind the edge as a specification? I have only seen it from custom knife makers that measure it just above the micro bevel. This seems like a more accurate measurement to determine how 'slicey' a certain blade geometry would be. Thanks.
You apparently started a run on Super Tinkers with my last question, I finally got it and it works perfect in the MKM magnetic sheath. (Also bought a Razelcliffe with it). My question this time is not as specific. I enjoyed the Shot Show videos but I the music has gotten into my head. What knife should I buy to drive away the them music?
Hi David! What is the difference between a reverse Tanto and a regular or modified sheepsfoot or wharncliffe blade? I own a few that I would classify as one by looks but they are sold or described as something else.
will the spyderco maxamet para 3 ever come back?
Wooden Knife blocks are typically a breeding ground for bacteria since the wood flexes and those compartments that hold the knives are nearly impossible to clean! A magnet mount is by far way more hygienic, especially in these times!
I'm with ya there -DCA
it is rough out here trying to get an upgraded para 3 and or a malibu
I think Mercer is the best value in kitchen cutlery, specifically their Genesis line. They are made in Taiwan. Some of the models are available in short bolster versions which I prefer, though Knife Center doesn't stock them.
Thanks for the legit info
I want a pocket deployment knife that will be completely concealed in the pocket, I’ve thought at length about just taking the clip off an already existing pocket deploy knife, but I’d rather have a 3.5-4 inch tactical folding knife with a very short, small,deep carry, off set aftermarket pocket clip to get for it(idea is the clip keeps it in the same place in the pocket, drawing no intention to itself, and not using the clip to help draw it from the pocket) which of course needs to be pocket deployable. So ultimately I’m asking for a combo suggestion, from the ever enjoyable David c Anderson, which pocket deployment knife & aftermarket deep carry pocket clip combo can the suggest that will best hide the knife in the pocket while allowing you to deploy it using the “wave” or other deployment option
Hey! So I work in a warehouse and don't have the time or patience to sharpen my knife on a daily basis. However, I cannot seem to find any sort of premium options for flip action box cutters. Is there some kind of market for that? Like just a nice handle and maybe auto action attached to a replaceable razor blade head? I just hate having to us this piece of plastic as my "work" knife.
Which is comfier on hand, mini bugout or new 945? Here in Europe they are sold 138 Vs 228 euros.The new mini Osborne is extremely expensive.
All Benchmades are overpriced lmao
Hello david, love the series and the channel overall.
So long story short I'm looking for cheaper alternatives to the spydie chef, so basically a folder to do food prep on the go.
I especially like the shape of the handle giving clearence from the cutting board.
So far I have spotted a couple options like :
-the crkt overland, but I'm not a fan of the materials used
-the civivi plethiros
-the kizer Wanderer.
Do you have any recommendations?
Thx in advance!
If you are not a fan of the Overland's materials, I would go with the CIVIVI for this one. The Kizer is nice, but I don't really think it is very "cheffy" in nature. -DCA
I have a question for dca I want a scandi knife my normal carry for outdoors is an esse 6 so what I am looking for is about 5 inch I like the look of benchmade 162 and eka nordic w12 also blade wise the benchmade 202 but these knives all have secondary bevels which I want to avoid , liked the look of helle didi galgalu but lacked a 90 spine for firesteel definitely needs to have a rise on the handle to stop hand sliding up if stabbing like esse6 also full tang not rat tang budget say 200 to 350 gbp bearing in mind cost of importation etc thanks
I have (had) the Al Mar Stinger and my son ‘scammed’ me out of it. Pretty nice blade. Very sharp out of the box.
14:38 What did you do David?😬
dude i want those 3 folders. good taste
Why thank you sir! -DCA
Here's an esoteric question. I was taught to use a loose belt strop. The belt flexes as you use it resulting in a convex Edge? My good slicers that I use carefully haven't been "sharpened" in many years. Can you pick the question out of that mess? What's your opinion?
Not buying the Malibu is one of my biggest regrets of 2020. Do you know when any new ones might come to you guys?
Less savoury means !, 🤣🤣🤣 I love this guy
Since you're a fixed blade guy, how do you feel about stainless fixed blades? Would you recommend any stainless fixed blades for someone interested in having one for general edc purposes?
Edit: Good edge retention and performance are necessary. Wider budget if necessary, up to $200-$300.
The yellow tekna inserts in the sleeve part of the knife to make a bigger handle. Just fyi.
Hi David 1st off thank you for doing these Q&A vids they're loaded with info. The question I have for you is regarding sharpeners. My birthday is coming up in August and I've had my eye on the wicked edge pro pack 3 i know you guys have them available. Just seeking your thoughts on it. Once again thank you for your vids.
I think they offer a ton of control for precise edges. They can also be very fluid and it is fun to watch someone skilled and comfortable with the unit sharpening away. Personally I would recommend wearing a pair of kevlar threaded gloves (kcoti.com/3pQyXYV) to avoid accidental injury, especially when moving quickly with the unit. -DCA
@@knifecenter thank you very much for your reply and also for the suggestion about the glove to be honest I hadn't considered it. But I'll make sure to add them when o order the wicked edge. 🙂
What/how do your sharpen your very best blades, David? Thanks.
Like this: th-cam.com/video/_FeShET043E/w-d-xo.html
Can you make a video with the top 20 most purchased knives of 2020 from the knife center?
Not exactly what you are asking for, but here is a top ten video of the most popular new releases from 2020: th-cam.com/video/Pwp-lyh55dI/w-d-xo.html
Hello Mr. David. I am in to Traditional knives ( Case knife mainly is my collection). Pls advise us if there is any knives which is interesting than Case knives. ( Sorry for broken english, I am Japanese). Thank you. I buy mainly in 30 to 80 dollar range.
Hi David,
My wife has lost some great Spydercos I’ve gifted her over the last year or so. We have horses so she’s constantly using one for cutting twine, rope, etc. Since she rides daily, the lost knifes are probably sitting somewhere in the middle of some field. When I think of a replacement, her requirements ensure the new blade will join the others in the field - small to fit a front pocket, with a clip. My thoughts are: bright, a possible other carrying option (neck knife), blunt tip as I’ve seen her try to cut a rope that had snared a horse (I mentioned using the blade like that was crazy dangerous - it didn’t go over well). Anyhow, what about the Spyderco Rescue?
If she's almost certain to lose it, maybe check out the Byrd line from spyderco, they have some rescue blades with serrated, blunt tips, which would be great for rope etc.
Or maybe a scout carry fixed blade for the small of her back? It won't get in the way when she's in the saddle and it's not likely to get hung up and pulled out of the sheath.
Hi David! Thanks for the FAQ episodes!
I’m looking for a small knife with a wharncliffe blade shape, a hollow grind and a high edge retaining powder steel. Something along the lines of CS Tuff Lite but with upgrades materials. Do you happen to have any recommendations?I’d be infinitely grateful if you suggested as many options as possible. And thanks for your work once again!
Spyderco Yojimbo 2, ( spyderco dragonfly 2 wharncliffe or Delica wharncliffe and so on) but they don't have powder steel except for the Sprint runs! . Ooorr Kizer has some of them, I think the Fire ant is one. And there are some more. Good luck and greetings from Austria
Lionknives thanks! Especially for the Yojimbo 2 recommendation, I haven’t thought about it myself for some reason
@@artemkanarchist your welcome.
Yo David I’m looking for a folding knife that is not visible when closed. So you can resharpen it indefinitely without worrying about the blade snagging you when closed.
Huh?
what is the most expensive knife u own?
David what would you recommend for a decent affordable neck knife?
Crkt minimalist is real nice... that cold steel push knife might be worth looking at too
Hi David, I worry about civil unrest and would like your opinion on good self-defense knives. A giant fixed blade would rule, but I can’t carry that on the daily. What do you think? Thank you. -Tim
You're better off getting training on how to use a knife, and then you'll learn what knife to look for. It depends on the fighting style. Also, I highly recommend you to not pull a knife on someone unless you know how to use it defending yourself, or it's an absolute life threatening situation.
If you don't know how to properly fight with a knife, I can take it from you and turn it against you before you even knew what was going on, and I'm not that experienced, I just know how to disarm someone.
I like your advice on the kitchen knives! I do love my EDCs, but my kitchen knives get a lot more use, and I've had mine for a decade!
I have to ask, as an English teacher from Britain, where has "addicting" (used as an adjective) come from?! I've heard it used more and more from many sources, all American. What's wrong with "addictive"? I don't think I'll ever accept it! 😜
It's similar to "nauseating" and "nauseous" being used interchangeably. I tend to notice "addictive" being used more often for a substance and "addicting" used to describe an action. Cigarettes and coffee are addictive, but my Hogue Microflip has an addicting action. Both are technically correct adjectives though.
@@reasonablenamehere after some googling, it's only recognised as an adjective in American English dictionaries, not in British English dictionaries. As such my students shall be punished accordingly if they ever sully their vocabulary with it. 😜
Freddie nailed how I use it :) -DCA
@@knifecenter animals! The lot of ya! 😜
Although, this is an older FAQ, DCA said something that caught my attention. When displaying the Spyderco Tri-angle Sharpmaker, DCA uses it to sharpen his kitchen knives, but he said "not on my customs."
Now, I'm assuming this has something to do with the value of custom knives, but is it because one doesn't sharpen custom knives because they never need it, or because one doesn't sharpen knives that cost more than some everyday sharpener?
I like to maintain a convex edge on my custom kitchen knives so I sharpen those with a sandpaper/strop method when needed. I'd say the only downside is that if you are dealing with a knife with a very acute tip, it can tend to get minutely rounded off with the Sharpmaker -DCA
I would consider stag handles for the case of lubricant and petroleum.
Quote me not
"Of course, sightly larger than average hands". I'd like to think I've helped perpetuate the hand thing. I take great pride in the size of my knife guy's hands.
Believe the Mini Bugout fits in an Altoids tin.
Indeed it does. The guy was asking for fixed blades in this case though -DCA
@@knifecenter ah. Obviously, I’ve never been accused of paying too much attention.
Hey david, I really want to edc a good selfdefense fixed blade vertically on my belt who doesnt stick out. Do you have any recommendations? ( under 100 bucks)
Keep up the great work!
Spyderco nightstick
Carrying a knife for self-defense is really f****** sketchy. I genuinely don't think there are that many people that are ready to fight to the death with a sub six inch knife. Get ready to get really really f****** bloody.
Try AK bayonet lol
As KEJ said... knife for self defense is sketchy. What style do you train in?
The Applegate-Fairbairn and the Fairbair-Sykes are probably the default go to style of fighting knives. But honestly, for actually fighting with them, they are all too short for me. Your timing needs to be flawless with that short a blade (but then I train for sport and fun, not for fighting, which I can guarantee you is messy).
What is the best Super-steel for a survival knife? CPM-4V? Just wondering as 1095 is ancient in terms of metallurgy composition and manufacture.
I think part of the allure of 1095 for survival knives is just how bomb proof it is. It's so tough that it won't snap. But it's also easy enough to sharp on something you could find when you're out and about.
Best steel will always be subjective. Cpm-3v is awesome, until you need to field sharpen it. I'm very love hate with my 3v knife.
When I think survival knife, I think a knife I can survive with, and that includes maintaining that knife when I need it, without anything special. 1095 is pretty amazing stuff. Newer isn't always better.
Hello Sir..i am looking for a strong built kukri which will serve my outdoor bushcraft...not too big but a trong built which will witstand good pounding ...probably mid budgeted...thank you..
Fox makes an amazing folding kukri
I wonder what David's thoughts are on buying expensive replacement handles for rather dirt cheap knives?🤔
Whatever makes you happy! -DCA
I bought my mother the shun knives from Kershaw/Kei knives. they are conservatively $100 to $150 a peice. But her favorite knives ever
I think they are vg
Also knife blocks are hard to clean bacteria caves. Use the wood strips with magnets in them. Hang em up
Hi, What is the sku code of that hinderer xm 24 you are holding?
Right here my good man: kcoti.com/2MreOd8
@@knifecenter it is taking me to another page...could you just give me the sku code
Not sure why the link is acting hinky, but here is the SKU: RHKK3063SGWBLBK
No victorinox for the altos tin?
Questioner was asking about fixed blades specifically. Check this out though: th-cam.com/video/tBUjVw65VYE/w-d-xo.html
@@knifecenter ah gotcha
Why not put the Farmer X in the tin? Doesn't fit? Or even the mkm Malga for a better steel.
I believe the request was for a fixed blade recommendation for the altoids tin knife. I suppose being a survival type kit a fixed blade or at least a locking folder would be more desirable. Could definitely get a lot done with the sak though. I would probably go with a Swiss army knife myself.
@@BecauseKnife aah yes, then I did not pay enough attention. And i totally agree with you, a fixed or locking folder would be preferable.
The Farmer X does fit actually, but yeah, fixed blades were the focus. Maybe I'll show a few more folders next time around as a follow-up. -DCA
It would be nice to get a Malibu.
Ok, try this: Doo-eh Sig-knee there ya go, Due Cigni (two swans)