What does the Muon g-2 experiment tell us?
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- The Muon g-2 experiment announced one of the most tantalizing physics measurements in over a decade. It is possible that the measurement tells us that our theoretical calculation is missing some new physical phenomena. It is also possible that a new theoretical prediction points to the possibility that measurement and prediction basically agree. In this exciting video, Fermilab’s Dr. Don Lincoln gives you an insider’s perspective.
Playlist describing the Fermilab Muon g-2 experiment
• Muon g-2
Videos about Quantum Electrodynamics
Quantum Field Theory
• Quantum Field Theory
Feynman Diagrams
• Feynman diagrams
Theoretical Physics: Insider’s Tricks
• Theoretical physics: i...
Quantum electrodynamics: Theory
• Quantum electrodynamic...
QED: experimental evidence
• QED: experimental evid...
The physics of g-2
• The physics of g-2
Nature papers on lattice QCD
Leading hadronic contribution to the muon magnetic moment from lattice QCD
www.nature.com... (subscription required)
Is the standard model broken? Physicists cheer major muon result
www.nature.com... (commentary, no subscription required)
Fermilab experimental paper on the muon magnetic moment
Measurement of the Positive Muon Anomalous Magnetic Moment to 0.46 ppm
journals.aps.o... (technical paper)
Muon’s Escalating Challenge to the Standard Model
physics.aps.or... (popular science article)
Fermilab press release:
news.fnal.gov/...
Fermilab physics 101:
www.fnal.gov/p...
Fermilab home page:
fnal.gov
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After all the hype I was waiting for Don's take on it. I'm not disappointed. Clearly explained with a pinch of charm.
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This is masterful science communication. I don't know who at the Fermilab office asked you to do the TH-cam channel, Dr. Don, but you have truly found your calling. You and everyone behind the scenes who's involved.
I agree! I’ve tried for years to learn about subatomic particles with no success until I found this teacher!
Earth's gravitational waves contribute positively to the spin and kinetic energy of fermions. For this reason, since the muon is heavier than the electron, the muon has more magnetic power than the electron. Different laboratories around the world produce different results due to the different 'gravitational acceleration'.
If the experiment were carried out in space, it would probably give the same result as the theory.
The thing I love about Don's videos is how he stresses that in science, finding new questions can be as exciting as finding answers. A result which tells us "we don't know, we need to do more research" is actually a great result.
In some ways science is about finding better questions.
Finally, Don has spoken.
Former BNL employee worked on that magnet on Long island NY .
Proud 🤗
I could listen to him lecturing for hours. ☺️
and I do!
until my small brain overload..😥
This channel is a gem. I have been repeatedly impressed by the content. It seems as though it would be digestible by a wide audience, despite the complexity of the subject matter. This video was particularly well made.
Dr. Lincoln is such a great teacher. His delivery is always enjoyable and very informative. The G-2 uncertainty has been cycling through my mind since first becoming aware of it.
Professor Frink: "g is exactly 2!"
Audience: *gasps*
Frink: "Very sorry that it had to come to that."
Finally, a video we've all been waiting for.
Thank you for a digestible explanation of cutting edge science, love your videos Dr. Don!
It is amazing that there are human scientists that have the intelligence to understand stuff like this. Research like this is important, not because it has any immediate practical application, but because it furthers our understanding of our universe. Great work Femilab.
Congrats to Fermi Lab on achievement
I love that being wrong is the best and most exciting thing for a physicist
Best explanation I've heard/watched on the Muon g-2 experiment. As usual, Dr. Limon knows how to cut to the chase.
I'd been looking forward to this! Back in April, I watched the live seminar when the results were first announced. It was incredibly well put together, and was the most compelling and informative scientific presentation I'd ever seen. Truly an outstanding model for scientific communication that should be studied by others.
Thank you for explaining this
This is the video I have been waiting for, best PR from Fermilab
In all, I would assume Feynman would be pleased if not jealous lol. I am thankful in your approach and inspiring a new generation of brilliance.
Beautifully explained. You can sense his love for physics each team he explains something as fascinating as this. Thanks for explaining so well that even someone like me can understand
Thank you all at Fermilab for the great work you do for us all. I desperately hope that option 2 is the case, I really don't want to give up the sci-fi fantasies that come with it :)
Wow, this level of precision is mind boggling !! This is remarkably amazing !!
Ok, lets go back to ignore friction...
It reminds me to the GPS system inaccuracy. If we wouldn’t know about relativity, the GPS system clock would be off by 38 microseconds per day. It sounds to be just as small and insignificant, than the difference in this Muon experiment.
But this little inaccuracy both leads to kilometers of inaccuracy in real world usage, and a whole new physics which changed how we understand the universe forever.
Speaking of which, what if this tiny difference is an effect of gravity?
@@henrytjernlund it is
@@henrytjernlund Gravity is way weaker than that.
But you can believe, since gravity is the 4th fundamental force, and on the top of the lost of the biggest challenges in physics, it is always on the top of the list of ideas for explaining anything mysterious.
Engineers would have fixed the problem anyway empirically and have it work nevertheless. The truth is that we will never be able to know everything or know everything as our lifespans are limited and at some point the learning process as optimized as it could possibly be will reach its generational best. Problems will have to be fixed empirically and be at peace with that.
@@davidespano8674 Yeah, they would add some magical x multiplier, because that’s what they measure. Just like we add cosmological constant, and call it “dark energy”.
But understanding WHY we need that correction is a whole different story.
Wow, thank you so much for such an in-depth quality explanation of the g-2 results!!! This is very exciting. Can't wait to find out what the different groups find over the next year or two!
Dr. Lincoln, if I'm hearing you right, this research
is going to help us go back in time
and reach the speed of light. I'd settle for fewer ads on You tube.
In the expanding graviton model, gravitons are always coming into existence, expanding from a point, and overlapping. When large numbers of expanding gravitons overlap, they inevitably create the geometries for particle-anti-particle creation. When gravitons overlap and create the geometries for particles/antiparticles, that's the same as creating virtual particles.
Interesting, do the gravitons lose energy when the overlap produces the particle anti particle pair?
Thanks for the video! A very exciting experiment!
Hello Sir. Hope you are well. Take care!
summed up, "we could be wrong, we don't know why, but we are oddly happy because of it".
Thanks Dr. Don, this was great - and long expected!
The more we know, the less we know :-)
Anyway, thank you very much for this clear explanation of where science stands in this particular problem.
That’s a good version of the old Einstein quote, “The more I learn, the less I know”.
@@alphagt62 I much prefer the version "The more we know, the more we know how little we know". Which incidentally is also related to good ol' Dunning-Kruger: when you know just a little, you have no idea how little you know, so you assume you know everything there is to know.
No, not quite. The more we know, the more we know about how little we know, and the more we know about where to look next.
That's basically how real science works: You discover new questions.
@@KaiHenningsen I've come to liken that effect to an expanding circle where the outside is the unknown and the inside already accrued knowledge. The larger the circle of knowledge, the longer the boundary to the unknown becomes.
Congrats to Don and the Fermilab team. An fresh alternative to CERN
I joined the online seminar a few weeks ago -- even at 2am here in Britain, the excitement of breaking new ground was thrilling.
Excellent presentation, Dr. Don. Lots more info than you usually provide which is appreciated, but as always, presented in ways that allow most anybody with an interest in physics to follow along.
Excellent video, it's nice to have the long format again :)
I am a big fan of the videos presented on this channel. Very cool stuff.
Great video Dr. Don! So, basically what you are saying is that we don't know what we think we know until we know it and even then the answer might be wrong or right depending on how you look at it. 😉😉😂😂
Welcome to my world.
You are such a good teacher! I am so happy to find it’s possible for me to understand what scientists say about subatomic particles, at least partially.
Love this. So many of the early attempts to communicate the results of the BH and Fermi Lab experiments focus on “new physics” and completely ignored the lattice QCD results. Either way, bravo to all the scientists involved in the new computer calculations and in gathering the new experimental data. I can’t wait to learn how the next sets of experimental results and confirmation calculations turn out!
Dr. Donald Lincoln elucidates things so that they are palatable for all! He re-emphasizes the Einsteinian statement, which goes something like---- "The propensity for exploring the unknown, the quest for delving out reality, is far important than any 'assured possession' in science"
Thank you for teaching us complex concepts in such a down to earth way.
I’m so grateful for these videos. Thank you for the work you put in for us that are of the Dummy Tribe.
This was great, easily the best explanation I've heard. And I didn't know about the lattice computations! That's really important to the story, it should be reported with this topic more widely.
The fields that make up space in the time/space continuum are only superficially understood. While we have some knowledge from experiments, our understanding is limited to the results of those experiments. It's like never having seen 4 types of fruit grown on Rigel 4, being blindfolded, and asked to identify each by touch. You know they feel different but as to understanding what they are, well, you've only scratched the surface.
3 years later, and the Fermilab experiment has gotten much better, and still shows the same results. Has anyone analyzed, and re-done the lattice QCD calculation?
I gotta say, I kind of like this new, more subdued Don Lincoln. I hate to sound critical at all, because he and this channel are absolutely great. But now it's Great+.
Thank you for making this video. Great explanation!
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Nice video. Thanks.
11:49 - He launched into that sentence expecting it to be shorter than it turned out to be. It's like when you pick up speed on a bike before starting to climb a hill, and suddenly realise you're going to have to pedal if you want to actually reach the top.
@8:12 "what does it all mean? Well first, lets be honest, we don't know." lol
This guy always explains things that I can't understand when someone else is saying it
THANK YOU PROFESSOR LINCOLN...!!!
I'm def more of an aspiring theoretical physicist, I can swim those waters fairly well, but you experimentalists always blow my mind with how you go about falsifying or confirming ideas.
This was such a smart way of looking for new physics...I'd have never thought of that.
I've been waiting for this video for a few years😍
I waited so long all my muons decayed.
@@PMA65537 How fast were they going???
@@lorenzobarbano You should have seen the Lorenzo transform!
Wow that's interesting
It takes sooo long for the results but well worth the wait
Loved this deep dive! What better place to get this dive than right from the Fermilab's (horse's) mouth.
I've got my fingers crossed for new physics!!
I'm a simple man, I see a Fermilab video, I hit like.
You're so fascinating. I don't always understand what you're saying but I'm fascinated all the same.
I would be most curious as to how the lattice calculations vary with "grid size". For example, if calculating on a slightly smaller grid moves the computed g-2 value away from the experimental measurements (toward zero, say), then one might reasonably surmise that calculating with a substantially larger grid would result in a g-2 value even closer to the experimental value(s). [The decades old dream of doing very accurate tau precession experiments may re-emerge, probably still remaining a dreamy dream.]
Thank you so much.
For a clear explanation of the facts so far.
It's funny how physicists market situations like these as "New Physics required" rather than "Our models are wrong". We are never wrong, we just need more pieces to the puzzle.
Amazing, just learned about your channel from pbs space time. Excited to deep dive!
The best at explaining complex ideas.
0:30 that epic music is so satisfying
Really great video, especially to get context about the experiments in fermilab
If I may, I just have small "advice" : (Idk your budget, and I really mean well, we need more educational videos, especially on quantum mechanics.
If the green screen is not used, you can maybe used a set, with half the screen for the key points.
A little bit of cuts in the editing, I'm amazed that you can get a lot of these script without cuts, but it can add a bit a rhythm in the video, less breathing noises.
Microphone aren't cheap, but it peaks a little bit to much, I think the clip on mic doesn't help
The lightning is bright, which maybe necessary because of the green screen, but it seems that the light is not diffused, or not enough.
I don't know if you'll se this comment, but please keep posting, those small notes aren't that important. I'm just nitpicking about details.
A lot of science channels use green screen with a space background. Some onsite set can boost the production, especially for fermilab, it would be so great !
Btw your generic is AWESOME ! Great production, seems legit.
Your best post ever Dr. Lincoln.
Can we have an updated video with the new results please!!
I haven't seen anything yet that covers the possibility that there might be something hinky with the equipment: the new experiment used a bunch of the same kit from the old experiment, what did they do to make sure that there wasn't something inherent in the hardware that might produce this discrepancy?
Thanks for keeping us updated on progress: I would not be surprised if you've already talked about this but I missed it!
The only thing from the old experiment was the magnet. Everything else is new. And the new measurements of the magnetic field are more precise than the old one, plus the field is more uniform.
well that is a problem. I didn't work in it, but I think the uniformity of the magnetic field in which the muons both orbit and precess is the biggest (known) source of systematic error, and it's better known this time around....or something like that.
It is wistful to see that this alluring experiment was left behind by the Nobel Committee
Incredibly clear, you have a gift
Thank you very mich dr. Lincoln
Good video. What I'm confused about still though is whether g is the value for all muons or all electrons all the time or whether it's averaged out over many tests or many particles. I couldn't imagine that the strength of g would be exactly the same all the time.
g is the same for muons and a different g is true for all electrons. However, the two particles have different g's.
New physics or wrong physics? who knows! but what we know is Physics is everything.💕💕💖❤
Intro music is epic. Feels like im about to meet a hero. Wait a minute....
Its dr. don lincoln.... a hero. 😯
What an excellent video. Thank you Dr Don
Paused at exactly 9:09 to write y’a this :
Honestly Never ever ever had this impression..
I was catching the whole thing ..
nor a tiny winy bit from it❕😵💫
How important were the 1948 measurements of g to the formulation of QED?
Very. Crucial. That and the Lamb effect.
@@donlincoln1961 baaah
Okay a muon is a heavier cousin to the electron. It has greater mass than the electron, but is a lepton like the electron and has the same charge as the electron. Being a lepton, it is a fundamental particle that is not composed of other particles, as opposed to the proton and the neutron, which are composed of quarks. But if muons always decay into electrons in a microsecond or less, why don't we just call them mass-excited-state electrons? Looking at it this way, it's not surprising that the magnetic moment should differ a little bit considering the large change in mass. Plus, what good is a muon? What have muons ever done for anybody? Are they teaching us the fine art of quantum spin, moment, and angular momentum?
Time for an update! 😊
Waiting for you sir!
You make advance science easily digestible for the common man.
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Don is lookin' CRISP today.
I was wondering about my initial comment on your other video on magnetics about a Cylinder design that could withstand getting close to the sun, it should also be a perfect example for doing particle physics experiments in space.
As much as it would be a mobile “world” That could travel closer to the sun than anything ever could in nature and literally see inside it, it could also do some excellent particle physics, just by its sheer size and design, besides it’s own magnetic shielding- and having over ~ 700 feet of carbon nanotube/graphene boronitride “chain mail composite/built in wave protection” and over 1,300 feet of other materials- that should have better shielding than anything on earth.
That should give you the exact protection you need, keep in mind I’m eyeballing everything, so a little more is essentially plus or minus.
Also keep in mind, it would employ three zero gravity laser fusion reactors- that should give you more than enough energy you need to do some amazing particle physics
This is my favorite series. Love it so much
Also, there is a muon g-2 experiment set up at JPARC Japan, with different methods and storage ring as compared to BHL and Fermilab. It is planned for its first run in 2024.
FINALLY! I'm like "Where's my Fermi Dude?" I need a breakdown... in the upside, I've been briefed.
Has anyone in FermiLab had the crazy idea that neutrinos actually contribute to radioactive decay happening in fractions of a second where if matter away from a stream of neutrinos could have a slower radioactive decay rate? If that could be proven by looking at what happens to Voyager and Voyager II if their power suddenly dies when the density of neutrinos from the sun drops below a critical point; If it happens with that kind of power seen in the two theoretical and recent FermiLab predictions, It means that neutrinos are radiation catalysts at the quantum level.
Dr Lincoln - please can you tell us if the charge on the Quark has actually been measured? Are they really 1/3 and -2/3 exactly, or are there a few nanopercent of difference as in the Muon magnetic moment? Since we never see isolated Quarks how can we know this?
Example: a baryon with charge 2+ (e.g. uuc), it should get obvious - if you accept that electric charge can only have an integer value.
@@chriszachtian Well yes and a proton with charge +1…. But 1/3 (or 2/3)is not an integer or even a nicely behaved fraction…
Within measurement uncertainty, they are -1/3 and 2/3. But small differences can never be completely excluded.
And Chris has a powerful point. At small energy scale, the values are exact.
@@Richardincancale Harvey FLETCHER and Robert Millican first discovered the charge of an electron and set it to (minus?) one. But this is just from history, if we trippled this value it would change nothing except some constants.
Regardless of all this I love your idea!
I can't help but think of the similarities with the "Crisis in Cosmology".
May be the FSC is the key for the gap
alpha=(1/g44*1/beta^2)*3/4*gama(1-ln3)^2
g44 Metric-number from GR
beta=1/gama from SR
-ln(3)=+ln(1/3) is from Thermodynamics Entropy W=1/3 is the probability to go in to x, y, z direction. So the space must be 3-Dimensional everywhere?
Cloud of particle anti particle pairs around electron.
The cloud slightly enhances the magnetic effect of the electron
The addition of Lattice QCD to the calculation seems to account for only roughly half of the discrepancy (and still doesn't make the error bars overlap), so something else must be also going on.
Great to see you back Don
Excellent explanation!
Thanks for covering this topic.
If we learn something new about physics from the Muon... Instead of calling the "New Physics" shouldn't it be called the "Mu Physics"... Yes, sorry for the Pun-ishment, I'll see myself out...
Mu🙄
Your apology didn’t seem very sincere.
This is all Mut
Particles who form the "quantum foam" have a pattern of appearance and disappearance in a period of time or they occur purely random?
Its hard to "detect" appreciable amount of data to conclude this.
If it did appear with a fixed period, that would define a universal rest-frame in spacetime (the frame that minimized this period): therefore it doesn't. It's natural that one would get relativity violating ideas from the "pop-in-and-out-of existence" model, since it implicitly chooses a reference frame.
It's a semi-classical description anyway: both the quantum vacuum and the muon's cloud are constant, they do not change: it's always the same, observables do not evolve with time. All the "fluctuations" exist in a quantum superposition, unchanging and always the same for every muon in existence, no matter your inertial frame.
(The frame thing is important: you have particles popping in and out of existence with zero average momentum, no matter how fast your are moving. Think about that for a bit).
@@DrDeuteron okay i did thank you🤯 nNow help putt my thoughts back in my head...0 nothing special
@@DrDeuteron and looks like aup playing measurement games🙄
Wait for it...
I'm hoping that there's new physics to be discovered. I could be wrong, but my hunch is that the muon is interacting with some high energy particles that haven't yet been discovered, such as superparticles, like as squarks, selectrons, or photinos. But as they say, only time will tell.
It would be fantastic if our lives could be changed in material science or any other way by how things work. Knowing is needed but using this knowledge somehow would be even better.
Let's play Global Thermonuclear War.