The released superstars should take a page out of George from Seinfeld's book and just continue to show up to work as usual, as if they haven't been fired.
@@Nestle245 No because most wrestlers are too egomaniacal to think that will happen to them Theyll buy into "if wwe doesn't want you you couldn't cut the mustard" narrative
How long should wwe keep them to make you happy? 20 years?!? We've gotten so used to long stays we think it's normal. It's not. You get a push, it burns out, you linger for a while then head off to somewhere else for a fresh push and new opponents. It's a GOOD thing! People swear WWE is the worst company but get upset when people get to leave, it doesn't make sense...
Vince's attitude change to keith lee is startling. At SS 19 lee goes toe to toe with Roman and is endorsed by roman after. At RR 20, Lesnar sold his ass off for lee in that match. At payback lee beats orton CLEAN. What happened? Vince completely changed his mind on the poor guy...
you forgot the part that he contracted covid, then the complication affected his health, it gave him a heart complication. when the heart complication surfaced, many fans already called it that he is already doomed in the main roster
@@freedomisslavery6840 well, that is debatable, but still... Keith lee contracted covid and current has a heart issue. With his size and wrestling style, he will definitely have a lot of problems in the ring, though I really hope he does good to wherever he ends up signing
It is easy to come up with good ideas, but everyone can't be featured. The rosters are just too big. Nia Jax and Joey Janela can start their own Incompetent Wrestling Federation.
Is the hurt business really together I haven’t seen one segment or it be explained why they are together again maybe I missed it tho..and Benjamin and Alexander are in the 24/7 jobber thing now too
How WWE didnt see Kieth Lee in a "King Pin" styled role is beyond me. Big, Powerful, Can fuck you up and has a high IQ.... that's the fucking King Pin! make him a super maniacal heel bad ass and you've got a licence to print money
That’s a great idea. The Wilson Fisk type character would be good instead of generic angry big guy if they’re making him a heel. I still think he had a lot of potential to be a likable babyface
Davy Boy Smith Jr has a lot of talent as a pure wrestler and I hope he gets picked up by someone that knows how to push him properly as a shoot technical wrestler
"My Hole" is a wonderful name for Nia Jax. Plus the bit about God protecting her body and she most have trusted God to have protected her opponents because she didn't had me laughing so hard. Great episode from Jim again.
I wonder if the IWC suddenly feels sorry for her cause she got released. IWC has a go at someone = cool! WWE victimizes same person = boo! Look at Ultimate Warrior. IWC made fun of him for years, but when That DVD came out, we were all like, poor Warrior!
I think because people like Ricochet despite his lack of character and is on the younger side, Vince may get more mileage out of him in trying to build a character and if he can't do that, his selling makes him the definitive jobber. Plus he is not injury prone despite his style and size
I notice a large chunk of these releases are people Triple H had a hand in bringing up and getting over, a message is being sent here. Also, Nia Jax was a long time coming, and was the only release ever that I've genuinely been happy about.
@Ze TheGame keep defending wwe and believing that the creative wasn't wwe idea Both Keith Lee and Cross confirm this by saying the helmet and the bearcat thing was not their idea they hate those gimmick stop defemding wwe they already has been Caught lying so that mean Adam cole as a manager was a real Plan they have it just seem you are hurt by facts and the Truth
@Ze TheGame Cole said nobody approached him about it but it doesn't mean it wasn't in the works. As Jim said, they came up with stupid ideas constantly but those ideas usually got forgotten in favor of something else, sometimes for better or worse.
Dorado and Metallik had been requesting their release for months, probably because of the garbage afterthought booking the luchadors have been getting.
They’ve been unfortunately treated like glorified jobbers. If the elimination chamber and the feud with legado del fantasmo has shown anything, it’s that they still have WAY more left to offer.
This is the reason why Jim says you never put developmental on TV. Because everybody has already seen them and their original gimmick so it doesn’t make sense for Vince to try to change them when everybody has already seen them
I think Vince probably wanted to get rid of her for years. Her anti-vax idiocy just gave him the easy way out without having to tell anyone in the Johnson family it was because she was a terrible in ring talent.
This has to be the Most Anticipated Professional Wrestling Upload on TH-cam this Week along with Jim Cornette covering Jon Moxley going into Rehab … 🍿. 👀
For a company like AEW that's all friendly and nothing bad happens just goes to show it doesn't matter if its WWE or AEW mental health would catch up on anybody. I'd assume Moxley looked at Roman and Seth and seen how great they are doing in their carrer they are pretty much on top of the company and a possibility of Seth winning a championship while Roman has his probably made Mox a little depressed. I mean he has done nothing that's even storyline wise. I'd imagine the CM Punk signing had him sitting in the back of the line. It's a young man sport and well.....Moxley looks burnt out.
@@vincemcmahon1383 his alcohol problems come from even before he was in WWE, this isn't an AEW vs WWE thing. Its just a guy who abused alcohol and now has a daughterso he wishes to be better.
@@vegoss116 it's crazy tho that Tony Khan is pushing Adam Paige the gimmick of a drunk loner cowboy as a world champion..... just saying look at the bigger picture
@@vincemcmahon1383 Page's gimmick was that he was an anxious millenial cowboy loner that buried his problems in alcohol, and now he returned as an overconfident cowboy with a support system around him that shows you can be better by confronting your problems with a great support system around you. Look at the bigger picture.
Big Bang Catastrophe all night all day dude and the special part of Keith Lee is his over the top role flips, go and watch his Spanish Fly lol its like another Willie Mack (Impact)
As soon as DouDrop showed up, Nia's days were all ready numbered: big girl, who can work at least competently and hasn't hurt any one, better attitude....
Possibly… but if this is about refusing to get vaccinated as is being rumored, then Piper being on the roster has little to do with it. Who can tell anymore? The whole company is a colossal mess right now. Eventually it will just be Roman v Seth for three hours every Monday.
DouDrop does work better than Nia. As Jim would say..."It doesn't look like the other girl is wrestling with a couch or refrigerator". I believe I also heard Nia was taking time off for a mental break and she was supposed to come back on like Nov. 15, but she requested more time off to have a mental break. Shortly after that request, they Future Endeavored her.
It's unbelievable that we are talking about the same company that gave us the attitude era and the wrestlers it produced. WWE is now like late 90's WCW. They have/have had a tonne of talent and absolutely no idea how to use them.
AEW needed Big guys and WWE got rid of Braun, Bronson, Bray, Kross and Keith. Ive never seen a war where one side just gives the enemy their Bombs, Vince is nuts.
Well this isn't really a "war", but you could say vince not paying nash, hall, etc enough to stay was more or less giving them to WCW, and WCW more or less gave Vince the radicalz. And vince more or less gave Bret to wcw.
The war is a myth......WWE could care less. When WWE won the Monday night war, Vince made a major decision......to go from a wrestling company who relied on ratings, to a global business that no longer needed ratings to survive. TV ratings now counts as just 10 to 15% of the overall....damn near meaningless until the contract is up which wont be for another 4 years with fox and nbc.
@@tmccane ratings matter bc that's why WWE got massive TV deals. Those TV deals are what makes them so much money. If the ratings are low, they wont get as big of a TV deals next time.
@@briarbradshaw9417 Im not sure how you can say that.....Smackdown is getting better ratings than it did before the Fox deal.....WWE didnt get the fox deal based on the tv ratings.....Ratings only matter to one group...advertisers, and if you watch both wwe and aew, even impact....the same companies buy ads on all the shows. Networks jump into solo are making ratings nearly obsolete....even Neilsens admits, not even a third of the country has cable anymore, people consume tv differently now and they dont have the ability to keep up
I think Jim forgot Harry Smith was also a tag champion in WWE with the Hart Dynasty. They had a really good run for awhile, it killed both Harry and Tyson when they got split up.
Keith Lee was the next big thing, I remember when he entered the 2020 royal rumble and confronted Brock Lesnar and the crowd went crazy for it. If you can't believe 60k+ chanting and cheering on a talent that's making an entrance to the ring as proof that person is something special, a fan favorite, a star in the making. Then that person is in denial and should not run a wrestling/entertainment business.
@@spacedaddyv This is an echo chamber. Most people come here with an opinion already established and are only looking to confirm their predisposition. Can't be having different points of views around these parts, oh no!
I can't wait to read "Paul Levesque has been released by the WWE and the McMahon family. He has a 90 day 'no compete - no dating other women' clause. We wish him well in his future endeavors'. HHH to the AEW Dark Elevation broadcast team!
I wouldn't even think that. If I were HHH, with the money I have accumulated and the contacts that I've obtained over the years, I'd go out and buy a company like Evolve, Beyond or even Ring of Honor. Start it fresh on a network that people know about, and that everyone has access to like an NBC, or a CBS, and pick 35 singles wrestlers 20 men, 15 women and a collection of 10 tag teams and work with that. They don't need to compete, but build themselves up slowly, and actually feature talent properly, the way WWF used to back in the 90s. And I hate to use an adage that Vince Russo came up with, but if you don't have a purpose of being on the program either I'll give you one or let you work elsewhere. They don't need the bloated roster that AEW has or the questionable call-ups that WWE has. Sure now and then you get a guest wrestler to come in for a couple months to wrestle some of your talent, but they are there as a temporary talent, not a permanent one, and can be called such.
@TheJoeGreene and what was 90s WWF? Exactly that. Every single person that Vince hired on was from another promotion initially. Christ even Hulk Hogan and Flair belonged to the AWA before appearing on WWF television. It's people like yourself that don't realize that WWF has been indie wrestlers from the start. Of course back in the 90s they focused on being bigger in size, but what did that do for them? Can you actually name a wrestler outside of Bam Bam Bigelow who appeared for the 90-95 showcase that was an actually decent wrestler within that promotion? Even Hogan was better outside of WWF, and a lot of people don't seem to realize that. His stuff in New Japan showed that he knew how to wrestle a much broader style, but his hands were bound within the WWF/WCW environment as it was more marketable.
I hope they at least get to leave some of the released superstars in the game like Keith Lee and Karrion Kross so that way we get to have somewhat of a decent roster. Also the developer's hard work won't have been for nothing.
They better fill it with some extra Legends because that game is going to be bare bones. Half the roster from 2k20 is gone. A lot of these new people I don’t know who the fuck they are because I haven’t been watching WWE since just before the pandemic started. A lot of the models will be janky as fuck because new entrants always look bad. I’m kind of expecting there to be a severe lack of people in each championship division. I could always get at least 10 modern wrestlers in each division on each show in Universe Mode. That’s not happening in 2k22.
@@xsteveconwayx shit i havent watched in almost 20 years, and havent bought a WWE game since smackdown was the thing and the raw 2 where you could do your own custom entrances etc, 2k is not the company to handle these games. engine needs to be cutting edge and its no where close 2k19 is still 60$ all parties involved do not care for the product cause the product is dead. i had foot surgery about 3 months ago and tried to watch raw once i seen all the ridiculous screens etc i almost had a seizure. with their budget having a fake crowd that is a simple sell and wouldve cost less than a few 1,000 puppets they prob couldve made in house
"Right Wing Lunatics" Perhaps Jim should see the breakdown for who's not getting vaccinated. Not that honesty or reality matter when there's a narrative to push.
Pretty much. The African American community is the one with the largest unvaccination rate yet Jim still acts like "its all the right wing lunatics". For me personally, I've said from the start it should be up to the individual if they want to get the jab or not. The government should not be able to tell you to get a medical procedure if you don't want to. That's like Nazi Germany levels of authoritarianism. Plus, the vaccine doesn't stop the spread. Even if you get the jab you can spread so what is the real reason why everyone has to get vaccinated? Because it's not to stop the spread. Ppl just accept the narrative too easily and refuse to do their own research. I like Jim but he's stuck in that old school liberal mindset and doesn't see that both parties are different sides of the same coin. And I think he still listens to and believes what the media tells him. Which is the stupidest thing you can do in this day and age. Like I said, if you want the jab get it. If you don't, don't. You shouldn't have your livelihood threatened over it though. Is Congress required to get the jab? Oh no, there exempt. 🤔 Think about that for a sec folks.
From what I've seen and read, the unvaccinated is pretty evenly split among political lines. There's slightly more Republican unvaxxed but there's also slightly more Republicans in general. There's all kinds of people choosing not to get the shot and they all have their reasons, ridiculous and reasonable. I personally got my shot but someone else choosing not to is their business. Point is not everything needs to be a cheap political hit.
@@Sweeptheleg83 African Americans have every right to be distrustful of the U.S. government and medical procedures. Ever heard of the Tuskeegee experiments?
Who's part of what party can be difficult to quantify because it's constantly shifting depending which way the wind blow. The registerred hardcore members of either party is evenly split so it's decided by which way the moderates and independents are leaning at any particular time.
@@Sweeptheleg83 I’m black and not a republican. Im not taking that shit. Im in my mid 20’s. I don’t have any health issues or overweight. So why the hell do I need to take that shit.
I think Jim was right about Vince purposely letting guys go in hopes TK overspends/doesn't take TK seriously so he's like what the hey work where you want. Why would he be so passive aggressive now about losing talent? If Montreal happened now, this Vince would tell Bret, "Cool, go to WCW. I don't mind. Beat Shawn and take the belt too. Call yourself WWF Champion a few times when you're there, it'll help the competition."
@Random Fagget Yeah, I rather enjoy that double-standard that he is getting criticised for hoarding talent AND releasing talent, often by the same people. I think the booking in WWE is a total mess, and it's mystifying how he made such a mess with Keith Lee in particular, but I don't think releasing or signing talent is the major issue that it's made out to be.
@@JMFabiano I don't read it that way - I feel like Keith Lee was a victim of the way they try to micromanage everything right down to the promos. That's the really bizarre thing about the way WWE uses writers, they should be a resource for the wrestlers to workshop/finesse promos with, rather than the writers trying to set what the wrestlers say in stone. I'm not sure how much help the writers could be, but it's clear that them being given creative control just doesn't work, especially with Keith Lee with his unusual mix of presence and diction. How should you book him? An arrogant heel who thinks he knows better than everyone and dominates opponents in a patronising way? A gentle giant babyface who occasionally snaps? It's not a particularly easy one, as you need to have more than good matches, you need a reason for someone to invest in their results and his promos get him there in some way
@TheJoeGreene in Saudi stop talking to me raw hasnt drawn over 2 million viewers in years and it was supposed to be the A show. Smackdown is now the A show fox saved they ass fasure smell ya later jack 😂
TBH am tired of folks complaining about WWE releases after screaming about WWE holding folks hostage and hoarding talent. THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTED. Let's LOAD up that AEW roster and see who really is better off.
agree but I think AEW destroys them (the releases) with their crappy booking. Everyone bitches about WWE bad booking but ignores that AEW is even worst. Imagine Keith Lee jobbing out to Orange Cassidy or Darby Alin.
@@DUFFYISBACK It's fine for what it does - I find their birthday card etc range is generally better than most. It's not a shop that really sells anything exciting though you're never excited to buy stuff there!
I cant stop but believe they buried Lee and Kross on purpose so when theyd get released the perception of the casuals after getting hired by the competition wouldnt be "omfg lee and kross are fucking awesome. FALL AND PREY. YEAH. YOU TELL EM SCARLET, YOU HOT CRAZY EVIL GODDESS" but instead "lmfao bearcat and bdsm bald dude in aew?"
Honestly I can see that, Vince doing all this so one he doesn't have to pay for people that will just end up crawling back anyways and to Sabotage this young upcoming promotion.
Colonel Kenpachi I think he meant on WWE television. I don’t get why they all keep doing the bs handed to them by Vince and the uncreative team. It’s like CM Punk said: They can’t fire everyone….at least not at once lol.
I knew this would happen to Karrion Kross. Poor talented guy. When they stuck him in the evil Power Ranger outfit and made him lose on his first appearance on RAW, I knew his future in this goofy company was over. Good luck in your future endeavors, Mr.Kross.
For me, Metalik will go back as Máscara Dorada in Mexico. I can see Smith going in Japan, he wanted to participate at the AJPW Champion Carnival, plus he loves Shoot Wrestling and GLEAT has opened with a "UWF" Division, I can see him try a run there.
I can also see Smith having some role in AEWs Owen Hart Memorial Tournament coming up. My guess is they'll have several Hart family representatives involved, so I'd expect to see him, Teddy, and maybe even The Hitman.
I'd like to know how Metalik would be doing right now if his English was as good as Reys. Because in ring wise he was an easy 10 as far as a luchador you could use to have that Latin pull. It's the only thing I can think of, which is silly anyone given mouthpieces have been used for decades and made multiple people stars but ah well, good luck too him
Don't like putting this here, but since I had both of my Covid shots my immune system has been terrible. I'm picking up colds, coughs and bugs left and right and just generally feel shitty 70% of the time. And here in the UK we're being told your covid vaccinations don't stop you catching or spreading Covid. So now I feel like what the F did I have it for in the first place
@TheBestFighter now, now don't shame everyone who takes a little longer to see the writing on the wall. I also never got the jab and called this BS early on but I'm not gonna condemn ppl who went the other way. We need ppl to wake up to the reality that the government is not your friend and this is another tool for them to use to take away more of our individual liberty and freedom. For only when we are united in our goal will this crap end.
@TheBestFighter I made the decision to get the jabs because my wife's grandmother was battling cancer at the time and my wife was her main care provider. At the time the vaccines were being touted as the protection everybody needed, I said from the get go that it was just a severe flu and that we needed to live with it right off the bat. But with a cancer patient with an already compromised immune system I thought I was doing the right thing. In hindsight would I have the vaccines again if I had a do over? HELL NO! Just the same as I won't be having any booster Shots
Jim if you are vaccinated, why are you so worried? I would only be worried if I knew it didn't work and just lied to myself to tow the Democratic line....
Yeah not to mention the ~99.8% survival rate to begin with and all the possible side effects from the shot, which can include death, and occur at an unbelievable rate compared to REAL vaccines in years past. And don't get me started on all the evidence the whole thing was planned, Fauci lying to congress, etc. etc. etc.... I just have to skip ahead when Jim starts talking about stuff he clearly has no clue about, and only blindly follows his perceived political side.
@@SirMartinJonesy pretty much. I like Jim but he clearly doesn't understand any of this and he sounds really ignorant. But he probably still believes what the media tells him which is the biggest hazard to one's health in today's world.
As much as I enjoy listening to Cornette, he needs to seek help for his obsession with Trump and Conservatives. Right-wingers aren't the only ones that have concerns about covid vaccines. There are Democrats and Independents who also share concerns. I remember that Nikki Minaj also questioned the vaccine.
Yeah, but Trump was more influential than anyone in creating this anti-vax, fake virus narrative. And you would have to be a fanboy to suggest otherwise. Guess who Karrion Cross supports? I do agree that Cornette tries to blame Trump for everything and it gets tiresome, but it is warranted here.
Isn’t Sasha Banks against coerced vaccination too? Jim makes lots of good points, then shows how idiotic he can be by calling anti-vaxxers ‘right wing’ - the jab doesn’t stop you catching or spreading COVID, so taking it should be entirely by choice, not coercion
@@DAKINS896 I m stating the fact that blame game was going on and hhh was said to be blamed and kevin dunn is blaming hhh so that he could keep his spot
People seem to forget that Impact and Pro Wrestling Noah are still a thing. There is also the NWA, MLW and the countless independent wrestling promotions scattered around the country. I love the “oh AEW and NJPW will pick them up”. Aye, the recognised stars will get be chased and courted. Harry Smith will always be welcome in Britain.
TNA is still a thing? Is Dixie Carter out of the way and done spending wrestler’s paychecks? I almost forgot, are they done having women compete with men for the heavyweight championship? Cause that was stupid.
When I was watching this enormous 300 pound+ black man with amazing athletic ability in ROH 5-6 years ago Little did I know the number 1 thing I would associate with Keith Lee in the future would be "Tennis Skirt" 🤣
Mick Foley’s “WWE we have a problem” video ages like fine wine after each list of released wrestlers….Nia Jax and Eva Marie are exceptions. They should have been gone long ago.
It's not the main point of the video. but I do love Jim's idea for the NXT program slot... The Challenge cup could be good, but I almost feel like it would work better if it was a team of 6 with 3 raw and 3 smackdown roster members, vs 6 NXT greenhorns... that way the NXT guys get ring time with seasoned vets of the WWE system and mid carders for WWE get more exposure on another program...
@@Eagles2020 _however_ it happened, it's here - people can at least try not to be spreaders wear a fuckin mask in public, especially if you don't get vaxxed it's not hard, it doesn't hurt, and it may help others not get sick or die
I can understand vaccine hesitancy, up to a point. But I do feel that pro wrestling, a job that exposes you to tons of people and requires constant travel, is the worst sort to have during a pandemic, vaccinated or not. Knowing that, I would think if you refuse to get vaccinated, you should actively be trying to get released, if for no other reason than to avoid the embarrassment of eventually being fired. Vince is old, Roman is their top guy, Becky is one of their top girls, and in different ways each one can't afford to be around many unvaccinated people. If you want to stay unvaccinated in WWE, you severely restrict who you can work with (and you definitely can't complain about no title shots), so you may as well quit, because you're likely to get fired eventually. So yes, it sucks to lose your job for that reason, but on the flip side, if you can actually get a job in a promotion that doesn't care about vaccination status, that might not be the great thing that you think it is. There was a time when I thought it might be funny if Nia Jax signed with WOW. But it's really not funny anymore.
Triple h needs to come back asap. He leaves and nxt turns into my little phony with the colors and no name jobbers. And now nxt stars that he loved get fired.
I hope he doesn't. I love Hunter. He is a great guy. I hope he stays healthy and lives happily and not have to deal with Vince and other posse in business. He has already suffered a heart attack. Wrestling is ruined either way and will never be profitable again. Let it all go
@TheBestFighter Huh? How is the colors pushing an LGBT agenda? Even if it's true, who isn't pushing an agenda? What is "normal" in your world, that might be pushing an agenda to someone else.
@@devinwalker7740 do they look like they care? they will all walk away from the industry with billions, some with hundreds of millions, of dollars in their pockets. business as usual
@@peterlee6374 do I really have to spell it out for you? The original comment says: Vince is destroying his reputation as a genius. To which I replied: as a wrestling genius? May be (he is destroying his reputation) As a businessman? Far from it ( far from destroying his reputation as a very wise businessman man).
So who's gonna be the sacrificial lamb in a few years when Bruce and Johnny's "talent" that they bring in flop because there gonna go back to bringing a bunch of big guys with nothing else going for them (think Ezekial Jackson) because they think Vince wants big guys?
@@renafan3333 No rena, not the talent that just got released flopped. I'm talking about the incoming talent that will flop because noone in that company knows how to do their job anymore
Some of these guys were Tailor made ready for the main roster …..HHH and co had given these guys gimmicks that worked and got over and in every case it was changed and it failed like we didn’t just see these people the week before doing something different and shockingly nobody gave a fuck …….so they changed every thing and everything fails and it’s the talents problem ? Kross was main roster ready how he was ……
@Saptarshi Mazumder has to be …..there are very few other explanations ……Someone is trying to push him out ……only other explanation would be that Vince really has lost his rabbit ass mind
wwe fan: They were all bums anyway. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Yet another brilliant move by Vince. aew fan: They are all worldclass talent. They will be highly paid main eventers in whatever promotion they go to. wwe fan: You’re a mark! aew fan: No, you’re a mark! wwe fan: No, you’re a mark! aew fan: No, you’re a mark! …
I've been a WWE (I loved pretty much all the territories) fan for almost forty years. Vince has lost his fucking mind. I don't see anyone saying this was a great move at all.
I remember a Karion Kross promo on NXT where he talked about headlining Wrestlemania someday. The next week he was losing to Hardy on RAW. I think Kross pissed off somebody by speaking out of turn.
The vaccine requirement doesn't make sense because you can still catch and spread COVID. I think WWE just decided to cut bait with people they didn't see a future in. Adam Cole's promo against Kross completely killed whatever hype he had around him, and Vince saw that without Scarlett he was just a big guy making mean faces. He couldn't get over in NXT and they cheer & boo everyone there.😄
@@omnientertainment5852 85% effective against the symptoms of the virus. For a virus that kills at an extremely low %. So you have a very good chance at living, vaccine or not.
Some of these releases are understandable but releasing Ember Moon, Franky Monet and keeping Sonya Deville makes just as much sense as releasing Kross and Lee. But despite all of the fumbles and mishap the fans still flock to WWE
All of them were either booked badly, floundered in the main roster, barely booked or recently joined. The ratings for every wrestling promotions is declining every year, nobody is drawing. You can't lose if you are already a sinking ship.
@@tripvic7629 You. Since you believe that it would affect their business, since they haven't contributed anything to the overall popularity of a company who has been declining since the early 2000's.
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The released superstars should take a page out of George from Seinfeld's book and just continue to show up to work as usual, as if they haven't been fired.
Sounds like JTG except he would hide out backstage when release day would come 😆
Slip Vince a “Mickey”
Genius idea.
It seems like you have no business training whatsoever.
@@ThereIsNoLord it's a joke 🙄
"The WWE is the land of fruits and nuts and Vince is the head cashew" - Jim Cornette
Which is neither a fruit, nor a nut.
best comment ever!!
cashews to aew confirmed !
@@charliekk3377 🤣🤣🤣🤣💯
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WWE has become a temp agency, instead of the final destination for pro wrestlers.
That is a true and correct statement…
I'd think upcoming wrestler's are now waking up to their bs and would rather go elsewhere than there.
@@Nestle245
No because most wrestlers are too egomaniacal to think that will happen to them
Theyll buy into "if wwe doesn't want you you couldn't cut the mustard" narrative
@@Nestle245 where are they going to go 🤔🤔
To AEW stack former WWE midcarders slot 💯💯
How long should wwe keep them to make you happy? 20 years?!? We've gotten so used to long stays we think it's normal. It's not. You get a push, it burns out, you linger for a while then head off to somewhere else for a fresh push and new opponents. It's a GOOD thing! People swear WWE is the worst company but get upset when people get to leave, it doesn't make sense...
Vince's attitude change to keith lee is startling. At SS 19 lee goes toe to toe with Roman and is endorsed by roman after. At RR 20, Lesnar sold his ass off for lee in that match. At payback lee beats orton CLEAN. What happened? Vince completely changed his mind on the poor guy...
you forgot the part that he contracted covid, then the complication affected his health, it gave him a heart complication.
when the heart complication surfaced, many fans already called it that he is already doomed in the main roster
@@lsj6721 It ain't Covid that causes those heart issues it's the vaccine.
@@freedomisslavery6840 ok anti-vaxxer
@@freedomisslavery6840 well, that is debatable, but still... Keith lee contracted covid and current has a heart issue. With his size and wrestling style, he will definitely have a lot of problems in the ring, though I really hope he does good to wherever he ends up signing
@@Ramekink anti mandate . Not anti vaxer
Now that the Hurt Business is back together, Keith Lee would have been great as an enforcer for them.
And then have him do a Rock and wrest control of the faction.
It is easy to come up with good ideas, but everyone can't be featured. The rosters are just too big. Nia Jax and Joey Janela can start their own Incompetent Wrestling Federation.
Is the hurt business really together I haven’t seen one segment or it be explained why they are together again maybe I missed it tho..and Benjamin and Alexander are in the 24/7 jobber thing now too
The hurt business is not back together now that mvp is returned he doesn't want Suffolk Alexander and Shelton benjamins losing ass on their team
An enforcer who does flippy floppy moves, yeah sure! LMAO
How WWE didnt see Kieth Lee in a "King Pin" styled role is beyond me. Big, Powerful, Can fuck you up and has a high IQ.... that's the fucking King Pin! make him a super maniacal heel bad ass and you've got a licence to print money
That’s a great idea. The Wilson Fisk type character would be good instead of generic angry big guy if they’re making him a heel. I still think he had a lot of potential to be a likable babyface
That's a brilliant gimmick
Vince has no idea of Pop Culture whatsoever you pitch that to him he is never gonna get it. he is so behind the times.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
that's a great idea.
Davy Boy Smith Jr has a lot of talent as a pure wrestler and I hope he gets picked up by someone that knows how to push him properly as a shoot technical wrestler
Too old to be a top guy now
AEW Will for the upcoming Owen thing
He doesn't have "it"
@@randyruger9063 But Jinder and Rick Boogs does?
@@randyruger9063 That's what I mean by pushed right.
"My Hole" is a wonderful name for Nia Jax. Plus the bit about God protecting her body and she most have trusted God to have protected her opponents because she didn't had me laughing so hard. Great episode from Jim again.
I wonder if the IWC suddenly feels sorry for her cause she got released.
IWC has a go at someone = cool! WWE victimizes same person = boo!
Look at Ultimate Warrior. IWC made fun of him for years, but when That DVD came out, we were all like, poor Warrior!
I have zero sympathy for her release. She was clearly dangerous and reckless inside and outside the ring.
Mia Whol
Ma Ho LMAO
@@JMFabiano Nope. Reddit considers Nia Jax's release to be the sole upside. She has zero sympathy anywhere, justifiably.
Charlotte Flair like: What does a sister has to do to get fire over here Gee?!
Appear in first row at AEW Dynamite and then show her on camera. We'll see how Vince feels about this.
@Nero Wynn free ricochet
@@calinmarian98 vince will break windows in wwe headquarters 😂 she has been at AEW tho for Andrade
Look at the hard cam on live tv and say Chris Benoit
I think because people like Ricochet despite his lack of character and is on the younger side, Vince may get more mileage out of him in trying to build a character and if he can't do that, his selling makes him the definitive jobber. Plus he is not injury prone despite his style and size
Jim on DH Smith: "It sounds like a bookstore in the United Kingdom" lmaooooo
A reference to the real W H Smith chain of bookshops.
@@gtpliquid1290 Far more over than he'll ever be
Loved that! From out of nowhere, as they say...
I'm embarrassed yet amazed that Jim made the connection to WHSmith's faster than I did, and I've lived in London all my life.
Maybe Harry Smith will be a part of the Owen Hart tournament in AEW.
Now that is great idea. Have the Owen Hart tournament for family wrestlers only.
Have him job makes great sense
I dont know if he's no compete clause will be up in time...😔
I notice a large chunk of these releases are people Triple H had a hand in bringing up and getting over, a message is being sent here.
Also, Nia Jax was a long time coming, and was the only release ever that I've genuinely been happy about.
She needs to just retire. Horrible.
If you are happy that someone loses their job, you are an absolute trash of a human being
@@michaelmartino16 Nia Jax herself is trash
@@michaelmartino16 if they are horrible at their job and hurt coworkers
she is still stuck in the Divas era when it comes to in-ring skill 7 years till now lol
Imagine if Adam Cole had stayed and became Keith Lee's manager like speculated. Im sure Adam would have been apart of the releases too
@Ze TheGame I believe that everything that's said is he say/ she say. But I also believe that plans in WWE change off the whim too
@Ze TheGame Keith Lee was very popular on the indie scene before joining NXT.
@Ze TheGame keep defending wwe and believing that the creative wasn't wwe idea Both Keith Lee and Cross confirm this by saying the helmet and the bearcat thing was not their idea they hate those gimmick stop defemding wwe they already has been Caught lying so that mean Adam cole as a manager was a real Plan they have it just seem you are hurt by facts and the Truth
@Ze TheGame Nobody cared? Go back to the Royal Rumble and Survivor Series he was in and say that so I can call you an idiot 😂
@Ze TheGame Cole said nobody approached him about it but it doesn't mean it wasn't in the works. As Jim said, they came up with stupid ideas constantly but those ideas usually got forgotten in favor of something else, sometimes for better or worse.
Dorado and Metallik had been requesting their release for months, probably because of the garbage afterthought booking the luchadors have been getting.
They’ve been unfortunately treated like glorified jobbers. If the elimination chamber and the feud with legado del fantasmo has shown anything, it’s that they still have WAY more left to offer.
205 Live became the unwanted guys in WWE. Vince didn't want them anymore and Hunter didn't seem to want them back
Uk listener here, loving the DH Smith / WH Smith reference!
Yeah I didn't think Jim was aware of WH Smith.
John Menzies..
Yeah I laughed when he said that
We had those bookstores here in Canada too.
lol I didnt understand that reference 😬
This is the reason why Jim says you never put developmental on TV. Because everybody has already seen them and their original gimmick so it doesn’t make sense for Vince to try to change them when everybody has already seen them
WWE needs a another developmental system one that isn't on WWE Network
@@siontimmy1 I agree
Downside is that potential talent was released. The upside us that Nia Jax is gone!
and Eva Marie
She's just gone, because she's an anti-vaxxer and is nuts
@@ravanpee1325 im pretty sure it's her shitty work and attitude tin foil hat
Honestly glad that bitch is gone. She's the most dangerous worker on the roster. I wouldn't be surprised if she's injured all the Divas in some way.
I think Vince probably wanted to get rid of her for years. Her anti-vax idiocy just gave him the easy way out without having to tell anyone in the Johnson family it was because she was a terrible in ring talent.
This has to be the Most Anticipated Professional Wrestling Upload on TH-cam this Week along with Jim Cornette covering Jon Moxley going into Rehab … 🍿. 👀
For a company like AEW that's all friendly and nothing bad happens just goes to show it doesn't matter if its WWE or AEW mental health would catch up on anybody. I'd assume Moxley looked at Roman and Seth and seen how great they are doing in their carrer they are pretty much on top of the company and a possibility of Seth winning a championship while Roman has his probably made Mox a little depressed. I mean he has done nothing that's even storyline wise. I'd imagine the CM Punk signing had him sitting in the back of the line. It's a young man sport and well.....Moxley looks burnt out.
@@vincemcmahon1383 his alcohol problems come from even before he was in WWE, this isn't an AEW vs WWE thing. Its just a guy who abused alcohol and now has a daughterso he wishes to be better.
@@vegoss116 it's crazy tho that Tony Khan is pushing Adam Paige the gimmick of a drunk loner cowboy as a world champion..... just saying look at the bigger picture
@@vincemcmahon1383 Page's gimmick was that he was an anxious millenial cowboy loner that buried his problems in alcohol, and now he returned as an overconfident cowboy with a support system around him that shows you can be better by confronting your problems with a great support system around you. Look at the bigger picture.
Yall are weird
Keith Lee’s Spirit Bomb is just one of those finishing moves I’ll never get sick of watching.
Cool
One, he makes it look dynamically impressive each time he does it. Two, you of all people, have no business critiquing names.
And he’s a guy who when he does it, it looks devastating when he hits somebody and can do it to anybody under 7 feet. It should be his finisher imo.
Big Bang Catastrophe all night all day dude and the special part of Keith Lee is his over the top role flips, go and watch his Spanish Fly lol its like another Willie Mack (Impact)
I think it was Drew. He bounced like a basketball when he took the Spirit Bomb.
As soon as DouDrop showed up, Nia's days were all ready numbered: big girl, who can work at least competently and hasn't hurt any one, better attitude....
Possibly… but if this is about refusing to get vaccinated as is being rumored, then Piper being on the roster has little to do with it.
Who can tell anymore? The whole company is a colossal mess right now. Eventually it will just be Roman v Seth for three hours every Monday.
I agree DD fills the same role as Nia while being a better worker
“this town aint big enough for the two of us”
Good because she sucks that's the only one Wrestling Fans Rejoiced about
DouDrop does work better than Nia. As Jim would say..."It doesn't look like the other girl is wrestling with a couch or refrigerator". I believe I also heard Nia was taking time off for a mental break and she was supposed to come back on like Nov. 15, but she requested more time off to have a mental break. Shortly after that request, they Future Endeavored her.
It's unbelievable that we are talking about the same company that gave us the attitude era and the wrestlers it produced. WWE is now like late 90's WCW. They have/have had a tonne of talent and absolutely no idea how to use them.
AEW needed Big guys and WWE got rid of Braun, Bronson, Bray, Kross and Keith.
Ive never seen a war where one side just gives the enemy their Bombs, Vince is nuts.
Well this isn't really a "war", but you could say vince not paying nash, hall, etc enough to stay was more or less giving them to WCW, and WCW more or less gave Vince the radicalz. And vince more or less gave Bret to wcw.
The war is a myth......WWE could care less. When WWE won the Monday night war, Vince made a major decision......to go from a wrestling company who relied on ratings, to a global business that no longer needed ratings to survive. TV ratings now counts as just 10 to 15% of the overall....damn near meaningless until the contract is up which wont be for another 4 years with fox and nbc.
@@tmccane ratings matter bc that's why WWE got massive TV deals. Those TV deals are what makes them so much money. If the ratings are low, they wont get as big of a TV deals next time.
@@briarbradshaw9417 Im not sure how you can say that.....Smackdown is getting better ratings than it did before the Fox deal.....WWE didnt get the fox deal based on the tv ratings.....Ratings only matter to one group...advertisers, and if you watch both wwe and aew, even impact....the same companies buy ads on all the shows. Networks jump into solo are making ratings nearly obsolete....even Neilsens admits, not even a third of the country has cable anymore, people consume tv differently now and they dont have the ability to keep up
@@briarbradshaw9417
WWE TV ratings has been low for years, YEARS.
I think Jim forgot Harry Smith was also a tag champion in WWE with the Hart Dynasty. They had a really good run for awhile, it killed both Harry and Tyson when they got split up.
Deadass could’ve been a tag team there for ten years in some kind of alternate reality.
Tyson maybe, Harry did fine after leaving WWE.
It's a shame that Tyson Kidd career got cut short. I felt he finally found his character before that freak accident with Samoa Joe.
Tyson had a much better WWE career after the split than Harry did.
@@rleonardgreen78 WWE, maybe. Total, Harry without question.
Please keep this artist. He fits the tone perfect.
Keith Lee was the next big thing, I remember when he entered the 2020 royal rumble and confronted Brock Lesnar and the crowd went crazy for it. If you can't believe 60k+ chanting and cheering on a talent that's making an entrance to the ring as proof that person is something special, a fan favorite, a star in the making. Then that person is in denial and should not run a wrestling/entertainment business.
And then wwe had him eliminated in less than 5 mins. Unfortunately we never got that Keith lee Roman reigns match
Triple H KNOWS WRESTLING TALENT! Vince not so much. Let’s keep it 💯
Except he had two negatives in Vince’s head he wasn’t built like a body builder and he was black
@@jewsco a black dude is world champ right now but ok
@@eruptttttt yes the first one and it took how long ?? You do know it 2021 and Vince has run the company since the early 80s so only 40 years it took
How Brian describes Vince running wwe sounds a lot like how the White House is run 😂😂😂
Brian is starting to go into business for himself lately
Nothing wrong with a different voice and opinion
He’s gotten way too comfortable
Good
You are a clown talking like this on TH-cam. He's gotten too comfortable? Ok, big shooter. It's a podcast, tough guy, just sit down.
@@spacedaddyv This is an echo chamber. Most people come here with an opinion already established and are only looking to confirm their predisposition.
Can't be having different points of views around these parts, oh no!
I can't wait to read "Paul Levesque has been released by the WWE and the McMahon family. He has a 90 day 'no compete - no dating other women' clause. We wish him well in his future endeavors'.
HHH to the AEW Dark Elevation broadcast team!
I wouldn't even think that. If I were HHH, with the money I have accumulated and the contacts that I've obtained over the years, I'd go out and buy a company like Evolve, Beyond or even Ring of Honor. Start it fresh on a network that people know about, and that everyone has access to like an NBC, or a CBS, and pick 35 singles wrestlers 20 men, 15 women and a collection of 10 tag teams and work with that.
They don't need to compete, but build themselves up slowly, and actually feature talent properly, the way WWF used to back in the 90s. And I hate to use an adage that Vince Russo came up with, but if you don't have a purpose of being on the program either I'll give you one or let you work elsewhere.
They don't need the bloated roster that AEW has or the questionable call-ups that WWE has. Sure now and then you get a guest wrestler to come in for a couple months to wrestle some of your talent, but they are there as a temporary talent, not a permanent one, and can be called such.
@@ivenstorm Hmm... HHH, working as an executive or owning ROH, where he would be working with... Danhausen! Would Trips be a fanhausen of Danhausen? 🤣
@TheJoeGreene and what was 90s WWF? Exactly that. Every single person that Vince hired on was from another promotion initially. Christ even Hulk Hogan and Flair belonged to the AWA before appearing on WWF television.
It's people like yourself that don't realize that WWF has been indie wrestlers from the start. Of course back in the 90s they focused on being bigger in size, but what did that do for them? Can you actually name a wrestler outside of Bam Bam Bigelow who appeared for the 90-95 showcase that was an actually decent wrestler within that promotion?
Even Hogan was better outside of WWF, and a lot of people don't seem to realize that. His stuff in New Japan showed that he knew how to wrestle a much broader style, but his hands were bound within the WWF/WCW environment as it was more marketable.
What's Terra Ryzing doing in the Impact Zone?
@TheJoeGreene yeah this is an idiotic post say you don’t know what NXT was without saying you don’t know what NXT was
"Tomorrow's dictatorship, starts today." 🤣
"Cyber terrorist of the month" got me
If Triple H Had The Resources He Could Litreally Create A 3rd Big Promotion In The States By Bringing In The Talents That Are Free Agents Right Now
Why? None of them were stars or draws
Why'd you capitalize every word?
@@Francisah Why do you sound so defensive ?
@Nero Wynn his gimmick is different i like it imo
Sure pal
I grew up watching Vince build the WWE and now I feel like he is determined to tear it all apart before he's gone
BURN IT DOWN!
with these Releases we can now hear the WWE2022 devs crying as they now need to update the game....again
I hope they at least get to leave some of the released superstars in the game like Keith Lee and Karrion Kross so that way we get to have somewhat of a decent roster. Also the developer's hard work won't have been for nothing.
😂
They better fill it with some extra Legends because that game is going to be bare bones. Half the roster from 2k20 is gone. A lot of these new people I don’t know who the fuck they are because I haven’t been watching WWE since just before the pandemic started. A lot of the models will be janky as fuck because new entrants always look bad.
I’m kind of expecting there to be a severe lack of people in each championship division. I could always get at least 10 modern wrestlers in each division on each show in Universe Mode. That’s not happening in 2k22.
@@xsteveconwayx shit i havent watched in almost 20 years, and havent bought a WWE game since smackdown was the thing and the raw 2 where you could do your own custom entrances etc, 2k is not the company to handle these games. engine needs to be cutting edge and its no where close 2k19 is still 60$ all parties involved do not care for the product cause the product is dead.
i had foot surgery about 3 months ago and tried to watch raw once i seen all the ridiculous screens etc i almost had a seizure. with their budget having a fake crowd that is a simple sell and wouldve cost less than a few 1,000 puppets they prob couldve made in house
That’s called Survivor Series 😂😂 (without the prize)
Exactly
old Bragging Rights perhaps?
"It sounds like a bookstore in the United Kingdom!" - I wasn't expecting a WHSmith reference from Jim Cornette, but here we are.
"Right Wing Lunatics" Perhaps Jim should see the breakdown for who's not getting vaccinated. Not that honesty or reality matter when there's a narrative to push.
Pretty much. The African American community is the one with the largest unvaccination rate yet Jim still acts like "its all the right wing lunatics". For me personally, I've said from the start it should be up to the individual if they want to get the jab or not. The government should not be able to tell you to get a medical procedure if you don't want to. That's like Nazi Germany levels of authoritarianism. Plus, the vaccine doesn't stop the spread. Even if you get the jab you can spread so what is the real reason why everyone has to get vaccinated? Because it's not to stop the spread. Ppl just accept the narrative too easily and refuse to do their own research. I like Jim but he's stuck in that old school liberal mindset and doesn't see that both parties are different sides of the same coin. And I think he still listens to and believes what the media tells him. Which is the stupidest thing you can do in this day and age. Like I said, if you want the jab get it. If you don't, don't. You shouldn't have your livelihood threatened over it though. Is Congress required to get the jab? Oh no, there exempt. 🤔 Think about that for a sec folks.
From what I've seen and read, the unvaccinated is pretty evenly split among political lines. There's slightly more Republican unvaxxed but there's also slightly more Republicans in general. There's all kinds of people choosing not to get the shot and they all have their reasons, ridiculous and reasonable. I personally got my shot but someone else choosing not to is their business.
Point is not everything needs to be a cheap political hit.
@@Sweeptheleg83 African Americans have every right to be distrustful of the U.S. government and medical procedures. Ever heard of the Tuskeegee experiments?
Who's part of what party can be difficult to quantify because it's constantly shifting depending which way the wind blow. The registerred hardcore members of either party is evenly split so it's decided by which way the moderates and independents are leaning at any particular time.
@@Sweeptheleg83 I’m black and not a republican. Im not taking that shit. Im in my mid 20’s. I don’t have any health issues or overweight. So why the hell do I need to take that shit.
The Code Academy promo's are quickly becoming my favorite ads on the show lmao
Harry Smith was a WWE tag team champion with Tyson Kidd. The Hart Dynasty!!
I’m sure everybody remembers that
Yup! Natalya was their manager. They used to feud with The Usos with Tamina. Then they also faced Cryme Tyme every week it seemed like.
I think Jim was right about Vince purposely letting guys go in hopes TK overspends/doesn't take TK seriously so he's like what the hey work where you want. Why would he be so passive aggressive now about losing talent?
If Montreal happened now, this Vince would tell Bret, "Cool, go to WCW. I don't mind. Beat Shawn and take the belt too. Call yourself WWF Champion a few times when you're there, it'll help the competition."
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Random Fagget Yeah, I rather enjoy that double-standard that he is getting criticised for hoarding talent AND releasing talent, often by the same people. I think the booking in WWE is a total mess, and it's mystifying how he made such a mess with Keith Lee in particular, but I don't think releasing or signing talent is the major issue that it's made out to be.
P.S. he'd tell Bret he could come back to be on Byte This! where he'd be allowed to plug WCW as much as he'd like.
@@CaptLoquaLacon I think Keith wasn't a favored person on the main roster. Possibly because of difference in political opinion.
@@JMFabiano I don't read it that way - I feel like Keith Lee was a victim of the way they try to micromanage everything right down to the promos. That's the really bizarre thing about the way WWE uses writers, they should be a resource for the wrestlers to workshop/finesse promos with, rather than the writers trying to set what the wrestlers say in stone. I'm not sure how much help the writers could be, but it's clear that them being given creative control just doesn't work, especially with Keith Lee with his unusual mix of presence and diction.
How should you book him? An arrogant heel who thinks he knows better than everyone and dominates opponents in a patronising way? A gentle giant babyface who occasionally snaps? It's not a particularly easy one, as you need to have more than good matches, you need a reason for someone to invest in their results and his promos get him there in some way
If you and your family are vaccinated and "protected" why do you care so much what other people do.
Answer - Because they are hypnotized.
Apparently Valkyrie was due to age. She's like 38. Meanwhile Oldberg
@TheJoeGreene if your highest point in 2021 is ya wanna watch Goldberg I think its time to move on.
@@ThatGuyX2 and the point still stands, people tuned in to watch goldberg.
but to make a point in your comment, men and women age differently
isn't Shayna Baszler in her early 40s?
@TheJoeGreene Yeah Goldberg is a draw In Saudi a draw on tv i big doubt that.
@TheJoeGreene in Saudi stop talking to me raw hasnt drawn over 2 million viewers in years and it was supposed to be the A show. Smackdown is now the A show fox saved they ass fasure smell ya later jack 😂
I've been looking forward to this ever since the news of the releases dropped.
I checked all weekend
Same 😂
Yep. This should be good...
4 mins of wrestling…..26 mins of politics the cornette show
You didn’t get the Jesus juice jab?
AJ Randy and Brock are the only three main eventers or upper card guy that I would say probably would not get a vax
Jim would not care since he likes em. If he doesn't like someone then he'll reeeee right wing nazi
@@themachoechidnaugandarandy7583 BS
Quite right. Some wrestlers are healthy enough not to need a vaccine, especially when you can still catch / pass on covid with one
@@goldenserenity2385 well the WWE is part of that corporate structure and even they have to answer to people
@@rondoughhowell6442 lol they'll lie and bend the rules, like every company (yes, _every_ company) does.
Your body your choice!
Except for abortion right 😂
@@_.El._ no. not everything is one side or the other. youll know when youre an adult
TBH am tired of folks complaining about WWE releases after screaming about WWE holding folks hostage and hoarding talent. THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTED. Let's LOAD up that AEW roster and see who really is better off.
This is so true. Marks want what they want and then they turn their back
agree but I think AEW destroys them (the releases) with their crappy booking. Everyone bitches about WWE bad booking but ignores that AEW is even worst. Imagine Keith Lee jobbing out to Orange Cassidy or Darby Alin.
@@andrewhofer3175 😂😂😂😂😂 bad booking? How? Full Gear was booked perfect
@@Brndn350Z oh hell no full gear had zero powerhouse other than that tong po
What must be going through the mind of Triple H right now.
Never thought I would feel sorry for HHH...NOTHING he can do but grin and bear it.
Godfather: They massacred my boy!
Internal family squabble maybe? If you look at all that good talent NXT built up, how they been treated, something personal is going on too.
They are setting up a reality show run
@@erickmack4131 thanks to bucky beaver kevin dunn
4:11 for the american viewers, in England we have a book/equipment sort of shop called W.H smiths
And it sucks
@@DUFFYISBACK It's fine for what it does - I find their birthday card etc range is generally better than most. It's not a shop that really sells anything exciting though you're never excited to buy stuff there!
I used to love going to get a new Parker pen 😂
@@DUFFYISBACK its just a boring English shop, for some reason whenever i go in there i always need the toilet
@@KurtisElgood they do have some great pens
I cant stop but believe they buried Lee and Kross on purpose so when theyd get released the perception of the casuals after getting hired by the competition wouldnt be "omfg lee and kross are fucking awesome. FALL AND PREY. YEAH. YOU TELL EM SCARLET, YOU HOT CRAZY EVIL GODDESS" but instead "lmfao bearcat and bdsm bald dude in aew?"
Honestly I can see that, Vince doing all this so one he doesn't have to pay for people that will just end up crawling back anyways and to Sabotage this young upcoming promotion.
You indy marks will chant for anything
Makes you kinda think, should you go into business for yourself if you're gonna be ruined by Vince?
@@TheFailedmessiah isn't that the whole point of AEW going into business for yourself because Vince doesn't value anyone, anymore.
Colonel Kenpachi I think he meant on WWE television. I don’t get why they all keep doing the bs handed to them by Vince and the uncreative team. It’s like CM Punk said: They can’t fire everyone….at least not at once lol.
Nia Jax new ring name after released is my hole lmao
too soon
😂😂
Seems they’re setting up for a sale. Max profit lines, lean talent contracts.
They most likely are, but if I'm a buyer I wouldn't want the company that leaves a bitter taste in the mouth of all the people I need to work with.
WWE: Releases talents
Tony Khan: It's free real estate
Jim's podcast: Stonks
You do realize that AEW can’t sign everyone and stay in business?
Only 4 of these should be considered Keith Lee , Karrion Kross, Scarlet, B Fab
I knew this would happen to Karrion Kross. Poor talented guy. When they stuck him in the evil Power Ranger outfit and made him lose on his first appearance on RAW, I knew his future in this goofy company was over. Good luck in your future endeavors, Mr.Kross.
People can hate impact all they want they know how to make stars of any backgr
@@rollingthunder8223 If impact can make stars out of anybody, then why where they taken off TV? lol
@@decepticonxhunter4850 kross was over at impact that's why wwe signed him
Jim, if the vaccines work, why do the unvaccinated have to be vaccinated to protect the vaccinated?
Exactly, they don’t have any answers. They only follow what mainstream media says
For me, Metalik will go back as Máscara Dorada in Mexico. I can see Smith going in Japan, he wanted to participate at the AJPW Champion Carnival, plus he loves Shoot Wrestling and GLEAT has opened with a "UWF" Division, I can see him try a run there.
I can also see Smith having some role in AEWs Owen Hart Memorial Tournament coming up. My guess is they'll have several Hart family representatives involved, so I'd expect to see him, Teddy, and maybe even The Hitman.
I'd like to know how Metalik would be doing right now if his English was as good as Reys. Because in ring wise he was an easy 10 as far as a luchador you could use to have that Latin pull. It's the only thing I can think of, which is silly anyone given mouthpieces have been used for decades and made multiple people stars but ah well, good luck too him
He’s already signed on AAA here in Mexico 👌
@@johns3491 lol isnt Teddy still in jail for drug dealing?
@@andrewhofer3175 Regardless if he is or not, now looking at his list of legal troubles on Wikipedia, I'm thinking AEW may not want him after all 😅.
Vince has lost it and something else is going on
It will be the battle of the "Khans".
The funny thing is didn’t they just rehire Eva Marie like a couple of months ago?
With all of the firings, Vince McMahon is truly the Mad King, “FIRE ‘EM ALL!!!!”
"If anyone's gonna destroy what I created, it's gonna be me!"
Harry Smith's biggest shortcoming was that he never got a dwi. Ha.
Don't like putting this here, but since I had both of my Covid shots my immune system has been terrible. I'm picking up colds, coughs and bugs left and right and just generally feel shitty 70% of the time. And here in the UK we're being told your covid vaccinations don't stop you catching or spreading Covid. So now I feel like what the F did I have it for in the first place
Don't ever feel like you should not share this with anyone. The more people stay quiet the worse it all will get.
@TheBestFighter now, now don't shame everyone who takes a little longer to see the writing on the wall. I also never got the jab and called this BS early on but I'm not gonna condemn ppl who went the other way. We need ppl to wake up to the reality that the government is not your friend and this is another tool for them to use to take away more of our individual liberty and freedom. For only when we are united in our goal will this crap end.
@TheBestFighter I made the decision to get the jabs because my wife's grandmother was battling cancer at the time and my wife was her main care provider. At the time the vaccines were being touted as the protection everybody needed, I said from the get go that it was just a severe flu and that we needed to live with it right off the bat. But with a cancer patient with an already compromised immune system I thought I was doing the right thing. In hindsight would I have the vaccines again if I had a do over? HELL NO! Just the same as I won't be having any booster Shots
Jim if you are vaccinated, why are you so worried? I would only be worried if I knew it didn't work and just lied to myself to tow the Democratic line....
Exactly, if you’re vaxed you’re “protected” so stop worrying about the next man.
Yeah not to mention the ~99.8% survival rate to begin with and all the possible side effects from the shot, which can include death, and occur at an unbelievable rate compared to REAL vaccines in years past. And don't get me started on all the evidence the whole thing was planned, Fauci lying to congress, etc. etc. etc.... I just have to skip ahead when Jim starts talking about stuff he clearly has no clue about, and only blindly follows his perceived political side.
@@SirMartinJonesy pretty much. I like Jim but he clearly doesn't understand any of this and he sounds really ignorant. But he probably still believes what the media tells him which is the biggest hazard to one's health in today's world.
80 year old demented man? When did Biden start running WWE? Lol
As much as I enjoy listening to Cornette, he needs to seek help for his obsession with Trump and Conservatives. Right-wingers aren't the only ones that have concerns about covid vaccines. There are Democrats and Independents who also share concerns. I remember that Nikki Minaj also questioned the vaccine.
Yeah, but Trump was more influential than anyone in creating this anti-vax, fake virus narrative. And you would have to be a fanboy to suggest otherwise. Guess who Karrion Cross supports?
I do agree that Cornette tries to blame Trump for everything and it gets tiresome, but it is warranted here.
That's the person you came up with? Lol
@@alkaline_water But the vaccine was made by Trump
@@Epsilonsama 🤦 lol
@@slyfox2022 I brought her up because she's a liberal. Joe Rogan, Dave Chappelle, Kyrie Irving and I think Aaron Rodgers are some other names.
this must be intentional at this point, making that overpaid and inflated roster problem transferred to Tony Khan lol
It doesn't matter whether AEW takes the bait or not. WWE's roster was bloated, and that is obvious. It is still bloated.
@@ThereIsNoLord all these massive releases and WWE still have TWO HUNDRED wrestlers in contract... damn bloated would not even describe it
Isn’t Sasha Banks against coerced vaccination too?
Jim makes lots of good points, then shows how idiotic he can be by calling anti-vaxxers ‘right wing’ - the jab doesn’t stop you catching or spreading COVID, so taking it should be entirely by choice, not coercion
Just stay away from the Hospital and doctors, and we won't care what you do at all. But don't expect modern science to save you from your decisions.
Rumor has it that hhh being blamed for nxt failure and kevin dunn being one of the component of it
how did NXT fail though? thats like the yankees expecting the minor league team in staten island to outdraw the mets in ratings
@@DAKINS896 I m stating the fact that blame game was going on and hhh was said to be blamed and kevin dunn is blaming hhh so that he could keep his spot
You gotta watch out for those short, untalented backstabbing buck tooth beavers.
@@daniellehinton463 guys like these exist everywhere and causes such problems
As I’m typing this, they just released John Morrison, Hit Row, Jaxyson Ryker, Shane Thorne, Drake Maverick, and Teagon Nox.- November 18th 2021
People seem to forget that Impact and Pro Wrestling Noah are still a thing. There is also the NWA, MLW and the countless independent wrestling promotions scattered around the country. I love the “oh AEW and NJPW will pick them up”. Aye, the recognised stars will get be chased and courted. Harry Smith will always be welcome in Britain.
I forgot that Impact still exist.
Nia jax might end up in Impact
TNA is still a thing? Is Dixie Carter out of the way and done spending wrestler’s paychecks? I almost forgot, are they done having women compete with men for the heavyweight championship? Cause that was stupid.
Jim the vaccine doesn't stop or prevent transmission or infection.
Thank you
Most of these people: good for them, they can get a better deal somewhere else
Nia Jax: good riddance
When I was watching this enormous 300 pound+ black man with amazing athletic ability in ROH 5-6 years ago
Little did I know the number 1 thing I would associate with Keith Lee in the future would be "Tennis Skirt" 🤣
😂😂
This comment is a good reminder that Keith Lee's prime is behind him.
Mick Foley’s “WWE we have a problem” video ages like fine wine after each list of released wrestlers….Nia Jax and Eva Marie are exceptions. They should have been gone long ago.
You are correct.!
It's not the main point of the video. but I do love Jim's idea for the NXT program slot... The Challenge cup could be good, but I almost feel like it would work better if it was a team of 6 with 3 raw and 3 smackdown roster members, vs 6 NXT greenhorns... that way the NXT guys get ring time with seasoned vets of the WWE system and mid carders for WWE get more exposure on another program...
the rant about Nia last year when she spewed the 'god will protect me' bs is when Mr Cornette won a place in my heart
No one told her it’s god who created the disease, and doctors who are curing it.
@@troystaunton254 god created or did scientists from wuhan?
“God will protect me!”
God: I gave you scientists smart enough to create a vaccine for fuck sakes!
@@xsteveconwayx the same scientists that caused the COVID outbreak 😂
@@Eagles2020 _however_ it happened, it's here - people can at least try not to be spreaders
wear a fuckin mask in public, especially if you don't get vaxxed
it's not hard, it doesn't hurt, and it may help others not get sick or die
I can understand vaccine hesitancy, up to a point. But I do feel that pro wrestling, a job that exposes you to tons of people and requires constant travel, is the worst sort to have during a pandemic, vaccinated or not. Knowing that, I would think if you refuse to get vaccinated, you should actively be trying to get released, if for no other reason than to avoid the embarrassment of eventually being fired. Vince is old, Roman is their top guy, Becky is one of their top girls, and in different ways each one can't afford to be around many unvaccinated people. If you want to stay unvaccinated in WWE, you severely restrict who you can work with (and you definitely can't complain about no title shots), so you may as well quit, because you're likely to get fired eventually. So yes, it sucks to lose your job for that reason, but on the flip side, if you can actually get a job in a promotion that doesn't care about vaccination status, that might not be the great thing that you think it is. There was a time when I thought it might be funny if Nia Jax signed with WOW. But it's really not funny anymore.
a few months back Jim said WWE had found a replacement for Keith Lee in Odyssey Jones
Bearcat Jones confirmed
so Xyonn Quinn is the replacement for Karrion Kross I guess? lol
This is a great point.
All his tboughts are disconnected
@@clawy99 tbh Bearcat Jones sounds better than Bearcat Keith Lee
Triple h needs to come back asap. He leaves and nxt turns into my little phony with the colors and no name jobbers. And now nxt stars that he loved get fired.
Looks like Vince put HHH in his place. I don't believe HHH is coming back with the same power he had before.
I hope he doesn't. I love Hunter. He is a great guy. I hope he stays healthy and lives happily and not have to deal with Vince and other posse in business. He has already suffered a heart attack. Wrestling is ruined either way and will never be profitable again. Let it all go
@TheBestFighter Huh? How is the colors pushing an LGBT agenda? Even if it's true, who isn't pushing an agenda? What is "normal" in your world, that might be pushing an agenda to someone else.
WWE is done they'll sell in the next 5-10 years. Also Vince is destroying his reputation as a genius.
as a wrestling genius? may be. As a genius businessman? far from it
@@lsj6721 As any type of genius he's been destroying wwe for over ten years now.
@@devinwalker7740 do they look like they care? they will all walk away from the industry with billions, some with hundreds of millions, of dollars in their pockets.
business as usual
@@lsj6721 not a genius business man??
Man has a company that bringing in revenue of a BILLION every year
But sure he’s not a genius business man
@@peterlee6374 do I really have to spell it out for you?
The original comment says: Vince is destroying his reputation as a genius.
To which I replied: as a wrestling genius? May be (he is destroying his reputation)
As a businessman? Far from it ( far from destroying his reputation as a very wise businessman man).
So who's gonna be the sacrificial lamb in a few years when Bruce and Johnny's "talent" that they bring in flop because there gonna go back to bringing a bunch of big guys with nothing else going for them (think Ezekial Jackson) because they think Vince wants big guys?
Probably Bruce & they’ll blame it on the pills. Johnny’s idea of crazy fun is doing 56 in a 55 lol
So wait? You are saying they flopped but are complaining they got released?
@@renafan3333 no they said that the big young boring wrestlers that they bring in now are going to flop
@@renafan3333 No rena, not the talent that just got released flopped. I'm talking about the incoming talent that will flop because noone in that company knows how to do their job anymore
Some of these guys were Tailor made ready for the main roster …..HHH and co had given these guys gimmicks that worked and got over and in every case it was changed and it failed like we didn’t just see these people the week before doing something different and shockingly nobody gave a fuck …….so they changed every thing and everything fails and it’s the talents problem ? Kross was main roster ready how he was ……
@Saptarshi Mazumder has to be …..there are very few other explanations ……Someone is trying to push him out ……only other explanation would be that Vince really has lost his rabbit ass mind
9:35
Jim: "People complain about how I say 'Hwip'.
Cool hwip. Cool hwip.
Just what I needed to get me through a Monday afternoon of working from home....thanks Corny
So you're cool with all this? You think this is just fine?
@@basedelon i wasn't doing anything wrong! couldn't you see i was apprehensive about the whole commenting on a youtube video thing?
@@thedishonestjeffsokol2489 that pizza did look tasty though.
It speaks volumes that this is less than 2 weeks old and they already aren't the latest WWE releases anymore
wwe fan: They were all bums anyway. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Yet another brilliant move by Vince.
aew fan: They are all worldclass talent. They will be highly paid main eventers in whatever promotion they go to.
wwe fan: You’re a mark!
aew fan: No, you’re a mark!
wwe fan: No, you’re a mark!
aew fan: No, you’re a mark!
…
💯
I've been a WWE (I loved pretty much all the territories) fan for almost forty years. Vince has lost his fucking mind. I don't see anyone saying this was a great move at all.
I remember a Karion Kross promo on NXT where he talked about headlining Wrestlemania someday. The next week he was losing to Hardy on RAW. I think Kross pissed off somebody by speaking out of turn.
The vaccine requirement doesn't make sense because you can still catch and spread COVID. I think WWE just decided to cut bait with people they didn't see a future in. Adam Cole's promo against Kross completely killed whatever hype he had around him, and Vince saw that without Scarlett he was just a big guy making mean faces. He couldn't get over in NXT and they cheer & boo everyone there.😄
The vaccination isn't 100%. Its like 85% effective. Let me ask you. What would you like, and 85% chance at living or an 100% chance of not?
@@omnientertainment5852 100% chance of not? I’m not vaccinated and I’m still living 😂. Wtf are you on about
@@omnientertainment5852 85% effective against the symptoms of the virus. For a virus that kills at an extremely low %. So you have a very good chance at living, vaccine or not.
@@talkofell6220 you also have a very good chance of landing in the ICU and having permanent damage (or long lasting effects).
@@omnientertainment5852 they say after 6months the pfizer one is 3%
Well now I'm signing up for Codecademy 😂😂😂
"They must've been real dark cause i couldn't see em"........Jim Cornette......Classic Cornette at his best
Some of these releases are understandable but releasing Ember Moon, Franky Monet and keeping Sonya Deville makes just as much sense as releasing Kross and Lee. But despite all of the fumbles and mishap the fans still flock to WWE
Those names mean nothing to most people. Who are those?
Raw's viewership has dropped like a million people since 2019, not much flocking
Great idea from Jim in the first 5 minutes.
That's an awful idea, seems like SS on a weekly basis
frequent crossover is exactly what's wrong with the brand split. They shouldn't even share ppvs.
This codecademy spot is amazing. Are they all this good? Who’s writing the copy?
Seriously, the best ad I have ever heard in a podcast.
I think Norm McDonald's Mangrate spot was better though
Nia Jax needs to probably just retire. Only other company I see picking her up is Impact, above and beyond that I don't see her going nowhere.
"She's not like most girls, she's burned her bridges and's not hireable..."
Lol. Very good parody.
Jim's idea sounds like survivor series
OMG that codecademy spot at the end tho 😂 still killing it
Code Academy looking at these reads "we're paying out money for this?"" lol
They will be studying these CodeCademy ad reads for years to come as the greatest marketing gimmick of all time. This is next level 5D advertising.
I would rate this just second to NormMcDonald's Mangrate spots.
Ngl Scarlett is a complete star, I can take or leave Kross
They’d do bits in NJPW, Scarlett would cause nosebleeds lmaoooo
I can't believe they let Valkyrie aka Franky Monet go! WWE is trying their best to lose🤣🤣
All of them were either booked badly, floundered in the main roster, barely booked or recently joined. The ratings for every wrestling promotions is declining every year, nobody is drawing. You can't lose if you are already a sinking ship.
@@jared.mohammed who asked?
@@tripvic7629 You. Since you believe that it would affect their business, since they haven't contributed anything to the overall popularity of a company who has been declining since the early 2000's.
LOL oh yeah because she’s the final straw between the WWE succeeding or not you mark 😂
They'll never lose you cant topple a juggernaut with an equally uninteresting product where everything is the same
As soon as I heard Nia Jax was let go, my first thought was "Well, there's no great loss..."
They gave Kross the EC3 treatment. He was a star made by another promotion. What else could you expect?
Hit Row already got fired. Lol that shit is so funny.
Just the girl Vince probably wanted them to be just like new day lol