Talking about the Panther Cap, Amanita pantherina and Amanitas in general, during a Foraging Course
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- Talking about the Panther Cap - Amanita pantherina and Amanitas in general, during a foraging course. By www.wildfooduk.com
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The amount of exaggeration and fearmongering about these is amazing - treated with respect it is wonderful medicine for anxiety, insomnia pain and inflammation - a true blessing
I have been taking these, and they are a PHENOMENAL mushroom. no reason to fear it
I'm sitting on a kilo (legal in the US) of panther powder right now and I take it for 3 days then give it a rest for 3 days for my overall mental happiness. Been doing that for years. Sometimes I go MONTHS without taking it because I don't need it. Amanita Muscaria, Regalis and Pantherina is earth's medicine.
Thanks, good info x
Are there any other mushrooms that look like this one? We found some that seem to be this but are much bigger. we watched them for a few days and eventually the caps turned flat then curled upwards, are they Panther caps?
Yes! They grow similar as the Muscaria but different color
Fyi, family is Amanitaceae, genus is Amanita.
I smoke and eat 100 timea this mushrooms u only need to decarb in oven
IT'S NOT POISONOUS
Give it a try and report back
@@Eueueyw have many times..
@Mee Omi its more like a hypnotic trance state
@@maxgraman5519 exactly its not one for the kids to eat at dinner time! ..he is trying to teach people how to feed your family on food from the wild..not how to get high and trip your nuts off course is it?dont tell people they can eat it,you could put your kids in danger!he openly said at the end,you can prepare it and eat by boiling it to remove the halucigens but i would,nt trust in trying it! he is doing a grand job if you ask me.
It contains ibotenic acid which is a toxin
Amanita Pantherina is not poisonous, no more than the mild neurotoxicity of ibutonic acid anyway. Chemically it's almost the same as muscaria, and can be used in a similar manner, with a slightly different effect. It's not productive to lie to or misinform people in an educational setting, even if your intent is positive. If someone who did your course we're to come across the real information, it would, most likely, cause them to doubt or disbelieve all the useful information you have given them.
In certain parts of Europe Muscaria is parboiled and eaten as food.
@@shinebassist the parboiling is remove toxins, which medically speaking include hallucinogenic compounds, so yes it is poisonous. I understand where you’re coming from but this is a commercial channel and therefore has to avoid in any way promoting the consumption of hallucinogenic or they could face demonetization which could be incredibly damaging to their business. It is likely the same reason that the video on Amanita Muscaria also described them as poisonous and also probably why we have yet to see the channel cover Psilocybin mushrooms.
@@josephfarr9128 So profit over truth?
it may not be deadly poisonous but it is certainly not good to eat. It may not kill you but you could become very ill.
oh and theres no muscarine in pantherina compared to muscaria, so it could be considered a safer option. whats in these mushrooms were so sought after that they not only ate the mushroom, but also had other people drink their piss after they ate the mushroom, to experience their effects too.
It is very important to know every Pantherina can have up to (10 TIMES) the potency of Amanita Musceria. I did 6 grams of dried pantherina roughly (1 cap and a quarter) in 200 ml of boiled water using lemon tek. 1/2 lemon letting it sit in mason jar with lid on it for 45 min. before drinking. It was the most terrifying, beautiful, soul cleansing, embarrassing, and profoundly spiritual experience I have ever had. I will never do this amount again, but I am so glad I did it once. I do not recommend anyone try this amount, it was traumatizingly frightening and beautiful all at the same time. Very hard to put in words. For anyone thinking about consuming this mushroom it is nothing like the Amanita Musceria. Trust me be very very careful and do not start with anything bigger than a fingernail size piece.
What dosage do you recommend for a first timer? 2gm of dried cap?
I think more close-up shots of the mushroom itself would really help. 😁We don’t really need to see any of the people.
Bingo. Detailed close ups of all parts of the mushrooms are a must
I just ate some amanita pantherina caps just now and I'll tell you what that there absolutely amazing
Did you trip as hard as they say?
@@fynworld it was crazy not going to lie
there's no "potentially" about it...it's DEFINITELY hallucinogenic.
@@jacksterlaugh I wouldn't use these to trip, really dangerous. I've don't it a few times and the toxins basically drive you insane. I've never felt so out of control of my body. My first time was a small dose and was somewhat enjoyable. The second time I over did it and got caught in a loop of very dangerous behavior.
It might sound fun but it's terrifying having no control over your actions
The amount of alkaloids per mushroom and/or per season is extremely variable with psychoactive Amanitas. I’ve heard of people eating a shit ton of panther caps and not tripping, and people who trip absolute balls also.
zed man I would suggest you stick to Muscaria at low doses at first to get accustomed to it. The alkaloids also have a period of adjustment to your neurophysiology unlike psilocybin containing varieties from what I understand.
@@MrDaneis I'm willing to take my chances..plz tell me how to prepare them
@@jacksterlaugh i ate 3 fresh amanita the red ones , these brown ones are more rare and stronger
Depending on the dosage, is water toxic and poisonous? Consuming too much water can kill you but you wouldn't go around saying it's poisonous.
Great excaple! Appreciation to Paracelsus!
I love Panthercaps. Amanita Muscaria/Pantharina + Psylocybe Semilanceata is somewere over the Rainbow.
By any chance do you know where one can find these
oh hell yeah dude! and at a sacred site! better than ayauasca and more healing !
oooh you mixed then? Experienced
@@gnomerome3765 Psilomart
I love Amanitas and Psilocybin I have noticed that mushroom seem stronger when I've recently had amanitas but I heard you can use amanitas to end a bad trip so I don't mix them at the same time.
How does mixing them feel??
Interesting as I’ve eaten Amanita pantherina cooked it and had a crazy ass trip.
How long before it kicked in and how long did it last? How much did you take? Was it good/pleasant? Would you do it more often?
Careful if picked fresh I believe ibutonic acid would be present making the trip rather unpleasant. Dry the shroom to break the ibutonic acid down to muscimol which creates the tripping effect in the case of the panther cap. Which can be quite different from psilocybin/psilocin which you are most likely familiar with
Pantherina is about 5 times stronger than amanita
i made the mistake of tossing a good handful of american amanitas in the air fryer to dehydrate and convert compounds. dosed the whole family. was nice for me, i dont think they even noticed. amanita trip u come outta body in my experience.
Paul Stamets (that's his name right? lol) got into some of these and they put you 'on repeat' where you just repeat the same actions and words over and over and over again. Which doesn't sound fun. There's a clip of him with Joe Rogan discussing his Panther Cap episode. Interesting stuff.
Only if you take too much the dosage is completely up to you
Pantherina is a kick ass mushroom
I was about to say this mushroom is not poisonous at all please educate correctly.
why does everyone keep saying the panther is poisonous. guess 'they' dont want you eating them.
Lol I've been eating them raw last couple days. Been eating mouthful once a day and did not get sick at all.
@@WackoMac same.
These are safe.
Paranoid much? Yes, they are poisonous. Maybe not deadly but still poisonous. In large enough quantities might kill a person or a small child.
Read 'Soma, Divine Mushroom of Immortality' and it explains a lot about the hallucinogenic properties of amanita muscaria, the fly agaric. A very beautiful book and great addition to any library.
I’ve tripped off panther caps lol. Not poisonous. They contain psychoactive compounds. Although I will say it was the least satisfying trip I’ve ever had by far. Gave me repetitive motion syndrome and looped for hours. Put me in a catatonic state for about 8 hours and had the most insane thoughts where I thought I was dying over and over again. 10/10 will not do that again but glad I did because it humbled the hell out of me. Ill stick to my gold caps
☀️🤗 Golden Sunshine all the way > as David Lynch says 😊 Both types are popping out here up North, never tried the Panther, tempted to try both together.
Panther caps can be eaten if prepared right
I put some in my eggs haha I think I was having repeated motion syndrome because I felt like I was in a loop
The best way to prepare would be drying? 🙂
Just found out those pantherinas grow on my property. Not sure what to do with this information.
Thanks Marlow, you are such a great teacher with your passion for foraging.❤🙏🏻
Do these Panthers also grow bigger & flatten out on the top,, just like the famous Amanita Muscaria?
I've been noticing quite a few around lately, not in the baby form like those, bigger, flatter w/ white gills , skirt, same brown , sometimes hint of copper colour.
☀️ Golden liberty caps are popping which helps greatly with my nerve pain & sad days, so I'm curious about these.😻🏴
They never get quite as big as the fly agarics but will flatten out and go through all the same growth pattern as them :)
These do not have the same chemicals as liberty caps btw so if I were you I’d stick to them.
Thank you so much for answering @@WildFoodUK1 I will definitely take your good advice & resist those ❣🤗
"Every amanita has white gills"
Amanita caesarea has yellow gills.
@So Subtle - Sound Therapy Studio Yeah I ate a whole bunch of it this year 🙂 Never seen so many of them in my life, than in this year. Truly a great year for foraging.
I took one cap of panther cap 30 minutes ago. I feel wonderful 😃
Did you die?
While maybe freshly picked it would produce unpleasant effects but if dried wouldn’t the ibutonic acid break down making it edible?
7:45 intonthe video he days, "stay away fromnthe amanitas." You know why? Because he is going to back and harveat them and make money selling them!!!!! 🤣LOL🤣(SMART MAN!)
amanita pantherina is safe if you cook it first amanita muscaria you can eat plain
Hello. I found some of these pantherias (or possibly regalis) by where I live in Washington state. I baked and ate around 4-6 mushrooms and I would say the effects are similar to that of the Fly Amanita. A good concentrated high, but still I felt a lingering of the neurotoxin which was greatly deminished by baking the mushrooms first. Fly Amanita and Amanita Pantheria/Regalis(?) will all have similar psychoactive and toxic effects. One isn't more dangerous than the other.
Also refrain from boiling amanitas as that cooks out the psychoactive muscimol. Bake them.
I'm just curious why you would recommend people eat poisonous mushrooms? Is getting high really worth possibly dying or getting sick?
@@youraunt4256 It's not poisonous if you eat just a bit. Even if you eat a lot you won't die.
@@youraunt4256they aren't fatally poisonous they have a neurotoxin that causes you to have a bad trip and dehydrates you. It can indirectly cause death if you have other conditions where the dehydration will kill you.
Panthers don't grow in north America iirc
What do you mean by baking them? I've made tea with dried amanita caps and the experience wasn't much to talk about.
Lol... Wow interesting
dude, I am happy you aren't my trail guide my friend, you are seriously misinformed.
How do you ingest it? just eat it once dried? or put it on tea or some food?
I’ve got Amanita Pantherina chocolates 🍫. In moderation it’s quite euphoric.
What brand was that. Do you know about how much you took? In looking at trying one from Majestic Ananita supposedly has 5000mg total 333mg per piece
Oh anti psychedelic
Watch s guy on the Joe Rogan pod cast !he stated it was a very very tripi shroom and grows threw out the year !!
Yeah Paul Stamets has a great trip report. Makes you not want to try it.
Poisonous but damn 😅
Medicine for the ones with knowledge
Amanita Pantherinas are badass mushroom. They have 5x the muscimol and ibotenic acid then Amanita Muscarias. Good but very strong. Not poisonous. 😂
Yummy yummy 😋
Very! I have many trip stories about them. Careful tho. Lol
@@StneRFoXxLyons fr. I love muscaria. I saw pantherinas earlier this year but refrained from picking. I’m not ready for that yet lmaooo, still mastering muscaria.
@@StneRFoXxLyons I’d love to hear stories about them tho.
Definitely not poisonous
It’s not poison
It's not poison. I'm taking some today. 😂
that's funny .. I have been taking panterina caps for a year.. not poisonous at all
The talk starts off saying that some families of mushrooms are all toxic? Which families are those?
some of this is not so accurate information. Not every Amanita has a sac-like volva.
Hello everyone
Have anyone used this mushroom,?and how was the effects?
I have ordered and eaten pantherinas. So sorry chappy
What a guy! Wished he lived near me. But I'm across the pond though.
You have the mycological society. Groups of interested people in USA, quite a lot, probably in New England too. Any luck?
This is what happens when you eat one
th-cam.com/video/kxBSuwRXynE/w-d-xo.html
So if you were to eat the panther cap what are the differences in effect compared to flys
With one you lose a liver and with another one kidney extra
Panther caps are way more potent and don’t contain muscarine. They only contain ibotenic acid and muscimol
I read years ago (on Erowid) that they are about 15x more potent than muscaria.
Love his presentation style, and bonus points for keeping the bored-wife-on-a-mushroom-forage in shot for the duration to show the gritty reality of foraging in middle age.
0.00001 muscarine
How do you know? Does muscarine go away with cooking?
Amanitas do not contain much in the way of muscarine. That toxin is is much more prevalent in things like Inocybe and Clitocybe.
SMB🍄Mushroom #Super Mario Brothers
But you don't have to be hyperbolic! Pantherina is not deadly poisonous. In fact some people prepare them and consume them on purpose. They contain the Gaba agonist muscimol, producing an intoxicating valium/alcoholic like effect. People never eat them raw... always dried and then boiled into a tea.
You said exactly what he said. Not deadly, people do consume it and hallucinogenic.
Way more potent than alcohol or Valium. Worst decision I ever made in my life...
@@MrDaneis
@@MrDaneis can you tell us how did you consume it and what were the effects
@@MrDaneis just take less? it's not like it's all or nothing. you just need to know what you're doing and start low, as with any new food/substance in life. stop fear mongering. just because you had a bad experience does not mean you should put off anyone else who wants to engage in this responsibly
i want that beautiful panther cap.
AMANITA PANTHERINA=OCD NIGHTMARE SIMULATOR !
I think I'll take my mushrooming advice from Marlow rather than the stoners in the comments section
Great video, I was out this morning meeting a fellow forager
Now wash your hands mate 😬
Marlow, it would be helpful if you use the word "genus" when you mean genus, and "family" when you mean family, to save our confusion. It's not a big deal. You're just teaching the public a new word. And they can use it to their advantage for future knowledge.
Hi Karsten, I'm trying to stop myself doing that, and please don't hesitate to pull me up on things like this.
@@WildFoodUK1 Have I spelled your name right??
@@karstent8138 yes :)
I am just in love with this channel
Thank you so much for this series of videos.
Does anyone have a link to the treatment for amatoxin poisoning as mentioned available since 2014?
Liver or kidney transplant
@@careyjamesmajeski3203 milk thistle extract will help deal with the toxicity, not an antidote tho
It's not one of the most poisonous mushrooms. When I used to look for Amanitas I always preferred panther caps over fly agaric because the former contains the same chemicals, but in much higher amounts. It's the ibotenic acid that gets you sick, but you can easily get rid of it by either boiling the caps (not the stems) or sun-drying them. The ibotenic acid converts to muscimol by doing the latter. That's the stuff you want. I've gathered many panthers in the 80s and early 90s. The panther does resemble the deadly death cap though since the coloration can be similar. The best way to tell them apart is to look under the cap"s volva. With the deadly species it's jagged. But with panthers it's smooth. I'm still here to tell the tale. I have also used psilocybin mushrooms too. For me personally I think panthers produce exhilarating effects and I think they're very similar to psilocybin mushrooms.
Great video, I've been on a few mushroom talks locally. I would love to have this man's knowledge
Keep educating!
It's false information.
Guess I'll block this channel
Beautiful
4:53 Amanita caesarea?
Karsten T He is talking about in britain. He forgot one amanita has off-white gills
There are many more than 1 Amanita that doesn't have white gills. I'm not sure about the UK though.
This guy apparently speaking about something he has no idea but he teaches people about it... lol this mushroom is super rare and has a lot of healing abilities... Don't listen to this guy he's speaking bulshit.... read BOOKS ABOUT AMANITA and you will see :)
Very irresponsible of you to spread misinformation. While rarely deadly like the Death Cap and the Destroying Angel,the Panther Cap is notoriously poisonous.
pretty sure he knows what he's talking about, bare in mind his audience is begginers
There are no amatoxins in panther cap, go back to school buddy
Paul Stamets has a talk somewhere about having a Pantherina omelette, and its hilarious results
th-cam.com/video/kxBSuwRXynE/w-d-xo.html here
Some amanitas has yellow gills though. But not in the uk i think
Actually the Amanita crocea does have off white gills. All teh dangerous ones have white gills though, which is what I should have said...
Commenting before title changed!
Nice video. Do all the Aminitas have an egg sac?
Yes