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- Do you think it's really possible to make furniture with 3d-printing? Or was the commenter really right? In this video I try to use the 3d printer and some pallet wood to make a piece of furniture. #bambulab #bambulaba1
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Creating your own soundtrack is next level!
Haha thanks Preston :)
@@TheSwedishMaker Yeah, very nice song ;o)
Agreed
I would insert a large diameter aluminum tube in the threaded part, should make it hold much better.
I was thinking the same or just one of the dowels he was using….
The infill on that screw print is just not sturdy enough.
He also can split the center part in two, and printer in the strong direction, even add a hole in the center part to make more walls will increase how strong the part is, beside that, is pretty owasemo how strong it is
Adding supports inside 3D print are almost necessary for parts that will really be used. You just have to make sure you don’t create new weak points. He could also use a stronger material like PPA CF… much more expensive though.
Hey thank you for the shout out 😂. And I love the pallet wood song ❤❤
Thanks Jesper! I need to make more songs 😃
@@TheSwedishMaker many many more
Forget that guy! I printed the USSA side tables (the one with the dowels) in PETG and they've been used outdoors for a while now with zero issues. Still loving your combination of 3D printing, wood working , CNC etc. I would have lasered your makers mark on the top of that seat to get the full suite of maker tech in. Keep it up, maybe not on the singing!
And I'm sorry man, I like you. I really do. I've followed you now for 2-3 years. I like your stuff, I like your craft, I admire your skills and talents. Your sense of humour. I just don't buy into this whole 3D printing gig. Even 3D printed templates are pushing the boundaries for me.
But at the same time I get it. Your'e The Swedish Maker. You don't purport to be anything other than he who makes. And make you do. You do very well indeed
My grandfather taught me to save things. So since a young lad I’ve been saving all the nail holes in wood that I found. Not sure when I will have enough to make something.
Am I the only one who suddenly wants a collaboration video with you and Jesper? And mean heck, you’re practically neighbours lol 🤘
Damn, that pallet wood looked nice at the end! And seeing as everyone's chiming in: you could try put a long bolt through middle the plastic threaded part, and tighten it on both ends, so that the compression keeps it together better, might help with the wobbling? Or might just crush the print, who knows! Tack som alltid
The little tune is just hilarious! I almost spilled my coffee!🤣🤣🤣 great video as always!
I use a lot of pallets for my projects. I also have a "Pallet Buster" but mine is a bit different than yours. I still have some of the same issues you do (width being the biggest). However, just like you, the only reason I like pallets is they are free. I think your commentary on this we excellent. I enjoyed it!!
Thanks for posting. This is a great concept but I just prefer all wood. You and the troll both have good points to make but in the end the creator of an item is always right and what trolls think doesn’t matter.
Design the post around an old steel pipe? There's plenty of it lying around most places. It's the threads you're after anyway. Pallet wood is "free" only if you don't count your labor hours. Poplar can be beautiful, or even maple and both are reasonably cheap.
Great video as usual.
One idea to rove some of the wobble in the threaded 3d printed part if the chair is to pretension that portion in compression.
You can use a piece of metal threaded rod (internally and hidden) with 2 washers and 2 nuts to compress the 3d printed part.
7:05 the song is supreme
Thank you! 🙏
catchy song it is hahah
I wish I had this guys accent but now he starts to do songs as well. Fantastic.
Very enjoyable video. I've had a fascination with woodwork and 3d printing for some time now ,despite still not having a printer myself.
I'd love to see it combined with traditional woodworking techniques such as dovetails 🙂
bambu is great, bought my x1c like 2 years ago and its running since then with absolutely ZERO issues.
also pallet wood isnt exactly the best thing ever, not because it was treated, but because you never know what happend to it during its lifetime. could well be that it got spilled with something very unhealthy, you never know. solution to that would be to buy new pallets from a manufacturer, but there again, if you go to the pallet manufacturer, you can just buy the crappy wood off them before they make a pallet out of it :D also a stool shouldnt be toooooo bad. i would not build furniture where you spend long hours on out of pallets, but a stool you sit on for half an hour occasionally shouldnt be too bad either way
I have a project in mind, but I can’t really afford to buy a bunch of power tools, but I do have a 3d printer so I’m interested in just how far 3d printed parts can be pushed to avoid needing more than simple hand tools for the wooden parts.
Me too! I will definately try more of this
very cool.... but there is a but :( I think it's cool, but for high end furniture I don't think plastic should be used for structural parts, or at least visible parts. But that doesn't change the fact the 3D printing is an incredibly helpful prototyping tool.
Man, I think if you were going to use the wood without the nail holes, you could have just cut them with a manual circular saw and then done all the preparation work, but dismantling a pallet is always an experience, good or bad, it's an experience.
Those carbon fiber composite filaments would work really well for this project. They are extremely stiff and strong and would probably remove that wobble issue that you're having because of the 3D printed stool stem flexing.
Or just make a bigger print
@@EnlightenedSavage You could print a giant cube and sit on that. It would be far easier sure. I was making a suggestion that would not compromise the design, style, and function of the existing piece.
I don't think it's a good idea to make screw threads out of fiber filled materials. Won't help the Z axis anyway. The wobble looks like a combination of clearance and thread engagement, rather than material properties.
Lengthen the dowels, which whichwould shorten the exposed threads on the seat. Less wobble. Love your vids. ❤
By the way the song was all right, but don’t give up your day job, 😂😂😂, and if you don’t sharpen your blades you will do damage to your motor, as you are putting unnecessary pressure on your motor, be safe, stay sharp, or be in the dark, 😂, from France.
Big fan of my Bambu printer. And also like adaptive cubic infill for a lot of my parts.
If you leave hole in the center of your big plastic threaded cylindee for a simple metal threaded rod to reinforce it you'll get rid of that wobble. There is a lot of torque on that part.
Maybe worth mentioning that EU pallets are not actually free. They’re worth a deposit. One way pallets are though. Nice work.
Good Day 🌅 nice job, the overall design looks good, next time make it all out of wood, on your CNC if it is big enough, from France.
I like the abrupt ending of the video
Pallet wood is pristine clean compared to railway beams. I would be weary of pallet wood, but I think the bigger danger comes from working on them, not using, maybe it would be enough to apply some sealing finish to minimalise any potential off gassing. Not only the stuff they used to treat it, but also any junk it could gather during the use.
3d printing is just a tool, it all depends on use, design and technique. I don't like the 3d parts finish, so I wouldn't use raw 3d print on design surface, but I certainly see 3d printing have use in furniture making overall. I don't think I would trust them with structural things without at least safety margin of 3.
Your design, I don't know, with the wobbly screw, I wouldn't send it to that guy at least ;-).
If the printed thread (on the rod) holds up, you could always just print the thing hollow and reinforce it with a wooden dowel for stiffness. Not sure that solves any problem (as you already know how to make perfectly fine threaded wooden dowels), but, you know ... options, mix and match, horses for courses and all that stuff.
Great song!
The “HT” label is interesting! I always thought these were soaked in horrible stuff
@jespermakes and yourself are the greatest storytellers out there! And now, you sing too! So cool!
You should cast the bottom part of the 3d printed part in aluminum or even better looking bras. The threaded base culd also been made if the same material but machineing would bee needed. Maby the easiest way would to take parts from a adjustable legg from scaffolding.
Methyl Bromide is used in container/container content fumigation to kill bugs and similar things. After fumigation, the containers are aired out for day, but they're good to go after that. You can't export pallets out of AU/NZ if the don't have the ISPM15 stamp to say they've been heat treated. If they don't have it, and the client can't repack, they are fumigated, aired and then stamped to say as such - ready for export
Any tube that long will flex a bit under a persons weight, and threads without huge engagement also tend to be wobbly, and in plastics that tend towards bendy elastic in nature its bound to be noticeable. I doubt you'll have any issues with it for a long time though it doesn't look like it is flexing near the limit.
Be worth screwing it down almost as far as it goes and seeing if that takes out all the apparent flex - then you will know its mostly if not entirely in the threaded tube section and can add a stiffener if you want to. And if screwing so low down doesn't make any difference to the feel at all then you know its your thread clearances that that too loose. It may well be a bit of both.
I have to say the mix of wood and print does look great
Great video! Can we expect more cameos from the songbird in upcoming features? And about the stool - did you think about flexing some Carbon Fiber Reinforced PETG muscles for that extra oomph in tensile strength, or was it just a classic case of 'out of sight, out of stock'? Keep us posted on whether it stands the test of time... and your testing regime!
I think the pallet wood is fine but I am also skeptical whether the plastic will last long
For the next video you could prototype on your own printer and then order your parts in some strong fillament (e.g PC-CF - polycarbonate reinforced with carbon fiber) - or get a printer that can print that. That'll make that guy shut up.
I thought that was Bob Dylan there for a minute......Leave the trolls to Goblin Spanker!
seriously had me lol with that song in the middle of the video.
The Palletwood Shanty was an excellent decision, loved it
The stool looks great and if you need something stronger the new PPA-CF looks amazing although pretty expensive for the amount needed on this project
PPA needs an enclosure to print, in which case there are many other polymers that could work.
I was about to mention that as well until I saw your comment. That filament can handle the weight of a car!
"...it wobbles Is that because...?'
.. because it's PLASTIC???!!!!
Yes, yes it is indeed because it is plastic.
Love the song!
Nice work. In future, I'd recommend avoiding toxic comments. 😉
Snyggt! Kul att se USSA-frästillbehöret in action. Har stått på önskelistan ett tag nu så det får nog bli ett köp vartefter 😀
Love the song! 💃
Så jäkla kul o annorlunda woodworking video. 😂
Tack 🙏😃
Not naming your 3D printer a funny name is a sin lol
Your beard is so majestic
I have a question on the dowels not fitting in the 3D prints. If they are off just slightly, why not sand the dowel some to fit?
The pallets around here are hardwood and sometimes oak.
Spite is the best motivator
Brilliant story. Thankyou
i work with palets both reparing and put them together and no thay are not toxic at all.
Yea I forget who but someone made a video dispelling all of that.
Nice touch with the song.
Thanks!
I love it - it looks fantastic in the white Rubio with the black 👍🏻😃
thanks! Yes - I was a bit surprised with the way the pallet wood looked in the end :)
You mentioned that you're very cautious if it comes to safety - how come you print with PETG in your bedroom? I use mainly PLA but still was a bit concerned about the air quality, and PETG is more toxic. If I were you I'd do some more research in this subject and maybe invest in an air quality detector. I don't know know, maybe it's an overkill, but better safe then sorry, right?
Excellent work, as ever.
1:08 a stool with threads always has a twist!!
Hi, let me start by saying that I love your content and this is an amazing project
About the infill, I've been printing for a couple of years now and find that adaptive isn't a good choice for structural strength but let me know your thoughts about the difference in strength on different infill
Great video as always, song had me 😂! Is that a new laser in the barn background?
Yes it is! Next video in a couple of weeks will be about it
Why did you chose one of the least optimal designs for 3D printed furniture part?
That leg holder is ok and strong I'm sure, but the screw bit will be weak even if you print it with 100% infit, too many stress points, and relies fully on layer adhesion.
Don't want to be the troll, but that thread will break if the stool tips over.
Yes I agree. I just wanted to try it out and had very little time to do it in, but I think using the leg part with longer lega and putting the seat on top of that will work good
@@TheSwedishMaker yes exactly
Make hole throughout entire threaded shaft and seat and glue in wooden spine made out of the same dowel as legs.
now all you need is free plastic
Hey I play bass, we should form a pallet wood band 😅
Maybe another dowel inside the central section would reduce wobble.
If you make the screw thicker or add some guide rods to keep to straight it will not wobble
Awesome video. Great story. And that song.... When does the album drop? 😀
Love your videos! And that song 😄 I have background in more engineering related 3D printing - its so inspiring to see people use it in so many different ways
33mm rundstav (i ett 33.4mm hål :)) i gängstången till sitsen vore nog prima för stabiliteten. Snyggt blev det i vilket fall!
Brother you need to actually develop that into a real song. and Please do it. it will top the woodworking music charts and be on all the kids channels.
I think the only thing I would change is the material of the screw because it just seems a lil too fragile to carry that much weight on such a small diameter
with a twist ;) thats how you make a pun.
Thank you 🙏
Great video as always! What CNC model are you using?
Haha loved the intro and end 😂. Nice stool btw!
Hey, I see new 4040-Pro Max! Any plans to make a review? Nice project!
Looks good man , Always enjoy your videos
Now sand mould and bronze cast it, and you have a perfect chair that ways a tonn with help of 3d printer
Wait so pallet wood, that's used to transport heavy things, is not suited to be sat on because it will break? I fail to see the logic here.
I’ve worked in a warehouse for decades, pallet wood on the whole is shockingly bad. And companies like Chep who make good quality ones, want them back when you’re finished, or you’ll get charged a fortune.
@@djstuc I still don't really see a reason why they couldn't be used for simple furniture though.
If they are able to carry stuff without breaking in a warehouse, why wouldn't they be able to have stuff on top of them in a piece of furniture.
Nice hearing from someone whose actually experienced with them though, I've mostly just seen them used by others, know someone who builds a lot of stuff out of pallets he goes get free from places.
@@pluggedfinn-bj3hn pallet loads are usually much more spread in my experience, flat boxes, evenly spaced loads etc. a person is quite a concentrated load isn’t it
@@djstuc Not really, the weight when sitting on a chair or on a stool is spread quite evenly across most of the surface.
Maybe if you build a long bench and sit in middle of it, or are building stairs or something out of it, but small furniture pieces?
@@pluggedfinn-bj3hn let’s put it this way, I’ve seen hundreds of incidents whereby someone simply steps on a pallet and the wood just collapses, hope that explains it for you.
Nice video
Is it possible to list all your tools in your workshop
You are selling it wrong. It doesn't have a woble, its a flexi-seat. Adjusting youre spine while sitting.
Its not true, and proberbly killing youre back, but it sounds way better!!
Well I wouldn`t use EU paletts aswell. Working in a supermarket and saw how soiled they can be. And those are only reused for the same supermarket chaine. Paletts could have been used for all kind of stuff which could contaminate them. (Oh and here in my country they are not free, paletts are made to be reused for transportation)
Stress test video for next 🎉
I think your using naive backwards but great learning and project video
The narrator reminds me of video game Bastion. Cool stool btw.
Thanks! 🙏
The saga continues ....
@Nolan-s9c is shaking in his boots
Another cool video
When you built the seat, you put the two boards together, you lined them up so the grain went the same way on both of the joined boards. Why not put the top board on perpendicular to the bottom board? Wouldn't that make things stronger?
While I do agree really don't think its worth worrying about in this case - that 3d print spans so much of the boards and the screws to attach it will be locking things together quite well, and wood glue is darn strong stuff...
@@foldionepapyrus3441 I'm not trying to imply he should have, just asking the question. Your answer makes sense.
I can't do half the stuff he does, so I'm not going to criticize.
@@rickseiden1 And it isn't a bad question, there is a reason alternate grain is the way Plywoods are laminated. Just don't think it will make a blind bit of difference in this case.
Just a a follow up as I thought of it you may wish to check out @matthiaswandel - he has done some very good wood glue and various woods destruction testing (among other fun stuff) that would help you get a feel for a much wider range of glues and woods than you are likely to use.
Also don't say you can't do it, as I'd bet you can if you are determined enough to try, and with all the folks doing some inspirational and instruction stuff on the web there are great resources to help you avoid mistakes.
Mostly making stuff is about the time and confidence to try, with a little bit of testing the novel idea's carefully before trusting them too far. Though without some of the nicer tools these folks have you'd be advised to start simpler, and remember that video with all the fancy tools took them a week, or even a month or two and you consumed it in 15mins... That hour you spent with a block of sandpaper feeling like you were not achieving a great deal probably would take them almost as long..
I don’t think 3d printers are anyway useful for making any tools ;) ;)
Cool. Release the song!
More importantly. How was the party 🎈
I think it's a silly debate. is it woodworking? are you a woodworker?
Back in the early days, craftsmen usually picked one element and went with it. Due to the cost of major tools, it was easier to craft what you needed with the tools and element you had (wood in this case) then try to combine elements. But even then, they still combined things. A metal Nail? god of woods forbid! A metal hinge? shame on you! Glass in the door? Heretic.
But these days technology has surpassed this, and multiple elements can blend in easily and are available to the "average" craftsman. So I think we need to just refer to ourselves as what we are: Craftsmen. or Craftspeeple, depending on how wimpy you are. Sensitive...I meant Sensitive. Yeh, that's it. Either way, we are CRAFTERS. The material is just an element used to bring the vision to life. or to just have a decent piece of furniture in the house or shop.
And we adapt, simple as that. If the power grid disappeared tomorrow, we'd probably just open the garage door for light, and grab our hand tools and go to work. It's not what we work with, it's what we DO.
Great song
Молодцом!
So when can we stream the full song?
and if I may add - no real woodworker uses CNC - only lazy wannabes do :D jokes aside - keep up good work m8!
You have to pick and choose where to use 3D parts. That threaded seat part is not a great use of plastic. Shelving brackets, lamps, etc are much better picks. I made two tall tripod lamps with a very similar design as your stool and they work great.
Who are you to dictate what a 3D printer can and cannot do... Why should things be limited to some small mindlessly printed pickachu whos file you stole from another creator to add to your collection 🙄 technology creates itself through necessity. Two completely different people with two very distinctly different jobs and ideas can both create something that could even save a life like a doctor creating a disposable laryngoscope to make the process more affordable. or, create a mould cast to mend a broken limb. Or build a house for a fraction of the cost for the housing crisis we are experiencing.
If it's used in any context where it aids, as opposed to destroy I am very excited to see what it's capable of as a hobby woodworker.
I am also not aware of ever having eaten a cat