This video is simply an advertisement to your product link, nothing in this video is neutral, best proof is you compared it to USB A and never mentioned USB C so you could come up with arguments.
I was with you there until you started saying that allowing designers to make them in different shapes is advantage over USB - the point of USB is that it's supposed to be universal so there's agreement that we use the same type/shape of connector, at least on the PC side. EDIT: scratch that - that growth rate graph is just beyond saving xD
One question, how do they overcome the most obvious risk, being short circuits when getting close to any ferric or even bare metal surfaces like keys? Also there is a greater risk of ESD damage with exposed connections. I like the concept, but I can see the old problem of aversion to cross platform/brand standard configuration through these not being patented and licensed out for universal standards compliance like all of the current USB variants.
Why change a system that works? I'm so glad that finally USB has become the quasi standard on mobile device. It used to be a nightmare back then every manufacturer had their own connectors. I don't want to go back. Unless there's a widely used set of standard magnetic connectors, I won't ever buy into these myself. Maybe for a speciality need like rigging up an auto-charger for a drone, yes that looks cool, but is it practical for my everyday life? I don't want to come back to my phone thinking it charged overnight, only to find out that the magnetic connector immediately came loose without me noticing when I laid down the phone last evening. USB connectors have a huge advantage, they are relatively firmly attached, and I like my cables that way.
USB-C is awful, at least as a replacement for USB-A and B etc. It's clearly only designed as a replacement for USB Micro and is only barely better than it.
@@numberlessconglomerate This is not true they haven't outlawed new connectors, if a better one comes out in the future it can and likely will switch to that standard
@@numberlessconglomerate Companies will take the risk to design a new connector when the current iteration of usb c doesn't support their needs. Same reason we got the lightning connector and then the usb c connector. Thinking that isn't going to happen is crazy. How long it will take to switch to the standard is unknown after the decision is made, but they said they will review the standard every 5 years. If lets say phone companies feel they are missing out on adding features because of the old connector they can push for the new one and likely get it revised easily with enough support. Quite frankly its a long time coming, I've got a whole box of cables with various connectors, voltages, and amps. Being able to replace every cable in that box and dc device in my home with one cable is a dream
@@numberlessconglomerate USB has been a standard going back to the late 90's with Win98 and the iMac. By WinXP ('03) it was by far the most common pc peripheral connector. Mini worked for smaller devices but wasn't really meant for daily insertions like charging a cell phone. Micro addressed that much better.
How many times do I need to hear that POGO PINS are so good? THEY ARE NOT. The very POGO PIN that you keep promoting blindly nearly set my house on fire. The magnet on this pin stuck to a metal piece on my bed, creating a short circuit between the positive and negative poles. It got so hot that the USB adapter and the cable melted, filling my entire room with smoke. Luckily, the house alarm went off, and I got there just in time. If I’d arrived five minutes later, the whole house would have been on fire. So please, stop going on and on about POGO PINS.
Usually the power gets cut if the short is detected. That is the case for most good quality USB chargers. The internal protection may be reset after unplugging the charger from the wall and putting it back on after a while.
i don’t see these connectors taking over. they have been used by the industry for over 50 years. the main problem with them are that they force you to use a proprietary cable. you lose that cable then you have to order a new one often at an over priced cost or hunt down your spare cable. the advantage of usb are that cables are easier to find because they were originally designed to be a “universal” standard. usb standards were made to overcome the problems of special pogo pin cables needed. you’re stuck with countless pogo pin cables made for specific devices, …or one or two usb cables which would be compatible with all your devices. again, pogo pin cables are nothing new and have been around longer than usb cables… usb cables came about to solve that problem with proprietry cables.
Wait, USB hasn't improved since 3.0? ...what about USB C's reversible connector? What about Thunderbolt/USB 4 which let's you do high speed data + display output + high speed charging (100W++) over a single cable? I get your point about the benefits of pogo pins, they're pretty cool, but USB is still alive and evolving. TB5 is starting to be deployed on products and the spec is constantly evolving.
I have used a better type of mag connector for years now than what you have here. You can get magnetic adapters WITHOUT mechanical moving pins and NO moving parts, easily cleanable with alcohol and qtip. Macs used to use these and the mechanical pins had a high tendency to fail early. I had MS Windows Tablet with similar design as the one on the video. The springy connector pins failed twice in 3 years. Also, If the magnet is on the phone-side adapter, it will pick up metal shavings if you work in that environ, so only suggestion would be keep the mag on the usb end of the cable only with the connecting adapter being regular ferrous metal that is not mangetized.
Honestly, I was just thinking this morning why the iPhone doesn’t have this as an additional charging option. I don’t care about data as long as they retain the USB-C port, but for charging this is so much more convenient.
There are also the magnetic connectors that do not have pogo pins. They are ring connectors. I got some a whole ago for my phone to add magnetic charging cables. The only thing that scared me off is it exposes the internal pins to static charges short circuits and stray live voltages which people have said killed their devices.
Sometimes I need the connector to not disconnect so easily, or when it's plugged into the back of my desktop computer, the magnet isn't needed. I don't see POGO taking over completely.
Do they offer anything above usbC pins where the heads are magnetic and removable? These seem to have all the problems of having live pins stuck out (rather than the recessed ones on magnetic usbC) combined with the constant disconnecting problem magnetic usbC pins have when they're at a funky angle/moving the item.
Hey I watched your how to setup raspberry Pi zero 2 w video and i tried to setup i done all the things but it is not connecting to my android's hotspot as i don't have a router. What should i do and when i add usb into it the connection stops.
Feels like this script could have been a third as long. You lost me at seven minutes when you were still explaining what pogo pins are. I'm sitting here still skeptical - are they really taking over? I don't see it. I've only just transitioned to all usb c. I get what pogo pins are and I think they seem cool, but I'm not convinced by your line of reasoning so far.
Great video and interesting thoughts. I do have to comment on you showing Lightning connectors when talking about about USB, and never mentioning USB Type C. Type A is somewhat dying, so focusing on it that much seems weird to me. Keep going though, this was fun to watch. I hope some official standards for pogo-for-USB is in the making, because this could be game changing. For day to day use they're an obvious choice as you say. Subbed!
Not sure what parallel reality you live in, but it certainly does incorporate consumer’s perspectives. I wish I could attach a photo of the sizable heap of Pogo Pin cables that I was forced to use a the occasional gadget and that died after
Most of my devices accept USB-C connectors. I can buy a USB-C cable almost anywhere. The gas station down the street from my house sells them. Also, that USB-C cable can power my phone, my tablet, my laptop, my dashcam, my CD/DVD burner, charge my headset, and do a host of other things. One cable...that's it. Pogo connectors, by design, do not do this. Regardless of their technological advantages, they are a failure from an end-user perspective.
I got the Huawei smartwatch 2 when it first released and it doesn't charge anymore because the connection on the watch where the pins connect to the charger made a hole over time. So I personally think they are not good for charging devices
USB defines both electrical and physical interfaces. It's true that the physical interfaces aren't ideal for every use and that physical interfaces using pogo pins are better suited for harsh environments. I don't see how that means that the sun is setting on USB. There are 24 pins in a USB-C connector. Has a 24-pin pogo pin connector ever been made?
Our you could just use magnetic USB adapters, that have been around for years and do not need new standards. I use a very cheap solution for all my devices that just need standard power and some more costly one that need full data connections that then also supports PD, with my laptop happily charging at a 100w power draw.
1. We just switched over to USB and it’s only just beginning. Most people are still on USB-A 2. I’ll stick to MagSafe on Mac’s. It’s actually an absolute difference maker. Ive waited until they brought it back before getting another one
Another solution looking for a problem. And it does not even do what it is supposed to do very well, just like how that drone flipped over at the end. It does not detach properly or easily enough when it has to, you will still be accidentally yanking light weight devices across the room or laptops off the desk.
You make the extremely common mistake of saying that USB 2.0 was 480 Mega Bytes per second when if you paid attention, you would notice that it is actually 480 Megabits per second. That lowercase "b" in Mbps & Gbps stands for bits, not Bytes. Remember there are 8 bits in a Byte. Yet somehow you were able to say Gigabits per second properly.
The definition of catch-phrase sellout. For the people who actually care and wanna break into engineering, I suggest going through the USB-IF documentation for specs and some may go through the VESA spec for display port on usb c. The whole point of having usb is to have unified spec for an interface. Also, I doubt these kind of pogo connector can even handle the bit rate of usb2.0, let alone usb3.0 or 4.0.
Using any type of wire to charge a phone seems outdated. I’ve relied exclusively on wireless charging for at least five years, maybe more. If I were to convert a device from one setup to another, I’d definitely go wireless!
I thought there was some rules to flag videos as a paid sponsorship? This was clearly bought and paid for by the Pogo connector industry. You never mentioned any of the downsides of Pogo connectors.
Is this crazyman's talk? Did you perhaps make chat GPT write the script for this video? Who in his right mind thinks POGO pins are good? I can name at least a handful of reasons why they are terrible just off the top of my head. Fire hazards (as @meytimeshki mentioned) and electrical burns are clearly the top two of them, but also they have terrible lifespans. Do you know how fast pogo pins rust? They are electrically charged pieces of metal that are exposed to air, dust and water, and constantly under frictional wear. In short, those things erode crazy fast.
Apple ditched them for a reason. If Apple, the maker of the horrendous magic mouse ditches something, that's a sign that that thing is borderline useless.
And also there's reasons why USBs of every generation hide their data-transferring pins inside the casing. Even Apple's lightning ports are designed so that pins are plugged inside the device and hidden away.
How do pogo pins deal with interference at the connector? This is a fundamental problem as frequencies get higher. This is why faster Ethernet, USB, and video cables all REQUIRE extra layers of shielding. Sorry, but this seems like a clickbait video with no basic research done.
Did you chat GPT your script? You mentioned the same thing about 500 times. Pogo pins are used in everything from small applications to rugged outdoor applications. The benefits are they are dustproof and could be waterproof and theyre magnetic. 🤮
No, what happened to a universal connector. You just gonna throw that away and pretend like USB C doesn’t exist. That’s the biggest fault in this video, is the fact that you ignored the existence of USB C. Also you claim USB has problems with dirt and debris, guess what, so do your pogo pins, they are magnetic and I’ve had my MagSafe get little tiny rocks and dirt stuck to it because it’s magnetic. You aren’t a journalist, you are a salesman. Stop lying to your viewers.
They are trash. Every device that uses spring loaded pins I ever owned is 1000X harder to get a connection with. Currently the charging of my G Shock uses this garbage and it's so frustating. With wear and tear this tech is less the useless.
This video is simply an advertisement to your product link, nothing in this video is neutral, best proof is you compared it to USB A and never mentioned USB C so you could come up with arguments.
And at one point showed a video of a lightning cable, not even a USB cable
Welcome to TH-cam, you must be new here. Or haven't been here in the last 10 years.
His voice isnt even real, is AI
Also showed a nonsensical graph that had no correlation data points and no relative representation...
Are you defending USB C as the gold standard?
I was with you there until you started saying that allowing designers to make them in different shapes is advantage over USB - the point of USB is that it's supposed to be universal so there's agreement that we use the same type/shape of connector, at least on the PC side. EDIT: scratch that - that growth rate graph is just beyond saving xD
One question, how do they overcome the most obvious risk, being short circuits when getting close to any ferric or even bare metal surfaces like keys? Also there is a greater risk of ESD damage with exposed connections.
I like the concept, but I can see the old problem of aversion to cross platform/brand standard configuration through these not being patented and licensed out for universal standards compliance like all of the current USB variants.
No they don't lol this guy is a fraud
I bought a magnet charger like 2 years back, I dropped it once and it was never really clean again because of iron sand.
@@lambertmariano1680 You can clean it with a stronger magnet.
Why change a system that works? I'm so glad that finally USB has become the quasi standard on mobile device. It used to be a nightmare back then every manufacturer had their own connectors. I don't want to go back. Unless there's a widely used set of standard magnetic connectors, I won't ever buy into these myself. Maybe for a speciality need like rigging up an auto-charger for a drone, yes that looks cool, but is it practical for my everyday life? I don't want to come back to my phone thinking it charged overnight, only to find out that the magnetic connector immediately came loose without me noticing when I laid down the phone last evening. USB connectors have a huge advantage, they are relatively firmly attached, and I like my cables that way.
USB-C is awful, at least as a replacement for USB-A and B etc. It's clearly only designed as a replacement for USB Micro and is only barely better than it.
@@numberlessconglomerate This is not true they haven't outlawed new connectors, if a better one comes out in the future it can and likely will switch to that standard
@@numberlessconglomerate Companies will take the risk to design a new connector when the current iteration of usb c doesn't support their needs. Same reason we got the lightning connector and then the usb c connector. Thinking that isn't going to happen is crazy. How long it will take to switch to the standard is unknown after the decision is made, but they said they will review the standard every 5 years. If lets say phone companies feel they are missing out on adding features because of the old connector they can push for the new one and likely get it revised easily with enough support. Quite frankly its a long time coming, I've got a whole box of cables with various connectors, voltages, and amps. Being able to replace every cable in that box and dc device in my home with one cable is a dream
@@numberlessconglomerate USB has been a standard going back to the late 90's with Win98 and the iMac. By WinXP ('03) it was by far the most common pc peripheral connector. Mini worked for smaller devices but wasn't really meant for daily insertions like charging a cell phone. Micro addressed that much better.
How many times do I need to hear that POGO PINS are so good? THEY ARE NOT.
The very POGO PIN that you keep promoting blindly nearly set my house on fire. The magnet on this pin stuck to a metal piece on my bed, creating a short circuit between the positive and negative poles. It got so hot that the USB adapter and the cable melted, filling my entire room with smoke. Luckily, the house alarm went off, and I got there just in time. If I’d arrived five minutes later, the whole house would have been on fire.
So please, stop going on and on about POGO PINS.
This cannot happen with a power adapter that is designed to NOT kill people 😂
that's not a fault of the pogo pins, but the device they were wired to!
Your power supply was the problem, not the connector.
Usually the power gets cut if the short is detected. That is the case for most good quality USB chargers. The internal protection may be reset after unplugging the charger from the wall and putting it back on after a while.
The USB spec should only allow 0.5A at 5V in this situation, that's 2.5W which should not be able to melt the wires.
i don’t see these connectors taking over. they have been used by the industry for over 50 years. the main problem with them are that they force you to use a proprietary cable. you lose that cable then you have to order a new one often at an over priced cost or hunt down your spare cable. the advantage of usb are that cables are easier to find because they were originally designed to be a “universal” standard.
usb standards were made to overcome the problems of special pogo pin cables needed. you’re stuck with countless pogo pin cables made for specific devices, …or one or two usb cables which would be compatible with all your devices. again, pogo pin cables are nothing new and have been around longer than usb cables… usb cables came about to solve that problem with proprietry cables.
Who knew that the standard sex toy charger would become the next big thing for charging/data transfer LMAO
The Future is anything but Pogo.
Wait, USB hasn't improved since 3.0?
...what about USB C's reversible connector? What about Thunderbolt/USB 4 which let's you do high speed data + display output + high speed charging (100W++) over a single cable?
I get your point about the benefits of pogo pins, they're pretty cool, but USB is still alive and evolving. TB5 is starting to be deployed on products and the spec is constantly evolving.
I have used a better type of mag connector for years now than what you have here. You can get magnetic adapters WITHOUT mechanical moving pins and NO moving parts, easily cleanable with alcohol and qtip. Macs used to use these and the mechanical pins had a high tendency to fail early. I had MS Windows Tablet with similar design as the one on the video. The springy connector pins failed twice in 3 years. Also, If the magnet is on the phone-side adapter, it will pick up metal shavings if you work in that environ, so only suggestion would be keep the mag on the usb end of the cable only with the connecting adapter being regular ferrous metal that is not mangetized.
I really like them too. Like you said, they go beyond being better and are actually fun to use.
Honestly, I was just thinking this morning why the iPhone doesn’t have this as an additional charging option. I don’t care about data as long as they retain the USB-C port, but for charging this is so much more convenient.
It does….. it’s called MagSafe and it’s much better than pogo pins
Man that cable drawer really spiked my ocd anxiety. I must fold those cords!
There are also the magnetic connectors that do not have pogo pins. They are ring connectors. I got some a whole ago for my phone to add magnetic charging cables. The only thing that scared me off is it exposes the internal pins to static charges short circuits and stray live voltages which people have said killed their devices.
Whoops, you did mention the slip ring connectors.
Sometimes I need the connector to not disconnect so easily, or when it's plugged into the back of my desktop computer, the magnet isn't needed. I don't see POGO taking over completely.
You talk 1 thing too much repetition
Do they offer anything above usbC pins where the heads are magnetic and removable? These seem to have all the problems of having live pins stuck out (rather than the recessed ones on magnetic usbC) combined with the constant disconnecting problem magnetic usbC pins have when they're at a funky angle/moving the item.
You ever heared of QI-Charging?
What a missed opportunity to use No time for caution ost when docking the charge in-flight
Hey I watched your how to setup raspberry Pi zero 2 w video and i tried to setup i done all the things but it is not connecting to my android's hotspot as i don't have a router. What should i do and when i add usb into it the connection stops.
There are USB-C magnetic connectors. Which by the way aren't very good and often aren't good for your phone.
Does it mean that every device will have its own uniq pogo-connector? 😮🎉
Feels like this script could have been a third as long. You lost me at seven minutes when you were still explaining what pogo pins are. I'm sitting here still skeptical - are they really taking over? I don't see it. I've only just transitioned to all usb c. I get what pogo pins are and I think they seem cool, but I'm not convinced by your line of reasoning so far.
Great video and interesting thoughts. I do have to comment on you showing Lightning connectors when talking about about USB, and never mentioning USB Type C. Type A is somewhat dying, so focusing on it that much seems weird to me.
Keep going though, this was fun to watch. I hope some official standards for pogo-for-USB is in the making, because this could be game changing. For day to day use they're an obvious choice as you say. Subbed!
nice as a second option, but proper type-c have waayy more use-cases than charging.
Not sure what parallel reality you live in, but it certainly does incorporate consumer’s perspectives. I wish I could attach a photo of the sizable heap of Pogo Pin cables that I was forced to use a the occasional gadget and that died after
I wonder will it have any use case on areas what need high data transfer speed.
03:07 Aren't those iPhone plugs or something, and not USB? Don't look like any USB plugs I can remember...
Most of my devices accept USB-C connectors. I can buy a USB-C cable almost anywhere. The gas station down the street from my house sells them. Also, that USB-C cable can power my phone, my tablet, my laptop, my dashcam, my CD/DVD burner, charge my headset, and do a host of other things. One cable...that's it. Pogo connectors, by design, do not do this. Regardless of their technological advantages, they are a failure from an end-user perspective.
I got the Huawei smartwatch 2 when it first released and it doesn't charge anymore because the connection on the watch where the pins connect to the charger made a hole over time. So I personally think they are not good for charging devices
Serious concern for proprietary bullshit to sneak back in, shorts killing devices, and pins getting stuck and no longer connecting.
USB defines both electrical and physical interfaces. It's true that the physical interfaces aren't ideal for every use and that physical interfaces using pogo pins are better suited for harsh environments. I don't see how that means that the sun is setting on USB. There are 24 pins in a USB-C connector. Has a 24-pin pogo pin connector ever been made?
Our you could just use magnetic USB adapters, that have been around for years and do not need new standards. I use a very cheap solution for all my devices that just need standard power and some more costly one that need full data connections that then also supports PD, with my laptop happily charging at a 100w power draw.
I wonder, why they haven't took over already years ago!!!
yes it is great for automotive circit assembly automation. as it won't need human to do cable management. still for high (180v
1. We just switched over to USB and it’s only just beginning. Most people are still on USB-A
2. I’ll stick to MagSafe on Mac’s. It’s actually an absolute difference maker. Ive waited until they brought it back before getting another one
Sorry for intruding: POGOs in the Phililppines are still a huge problem. Chinese offshore gambling is a big damn deal. They're raiding them .
I think this one is going over most peoples' heads 😂
Another solution looking for a problem. And it does not even do what it is supposed to do very well, just like how that drone flipped over at the end. It does not detach properly or easily enough when it has to, you will still be accidentally yanking light weight devices across the room or laptops off the desk.
/r/UsbCHardware is going to have a fit with this video 😂
The cables are cool, but the customizability is also a weakness. People don’t want a unique cable for every device.
You make the extremely common mistake of saying that USB 2.0 was 480 Mega Bytes per second when if you paid attention, you would notice that it is actually 480 Megabits per second. That lowercase "b" in Mbps & Gbps stands for bits, not Bytes. Remember there are 8 bits in a Byte. Yet somehow you were able to say Gigabits per second properly.
What about USB-C its reversible and a day 1 mindset for USB! I don't think many users will change their cables every god damn two years
The definition of catch-phrase sellout.
For the people who actually care and wanna break into engineering, I suggest going through the USB-IF documentation for specs and some may go through the VESA spec for display port on usb c.
The whole point of having usb is to have unified spec for an interface.
Also, I doubt these kind of pogo connector can even handle the bit rate of usb2.0, let alone usb3.0 or 4.0.
Pebble watch used this style connector
Using any type of wire to charge a phone seems outdated. I’ve relied exclusively on wireless charging for at least five years, maybe more. If I were to convert a device from one setup to another, I’d definitely go wireless!
Bro doesn't realize USB C is also USB. Goofy ah channel
Sorry but Pogo Pins are trash 🗑️
Before this video I was neutral towards pogo pins. After this video I hate POGO PINS and I will stick with USB
If it’s a n open source universal standard, then sure. If it takes us back to every device having a unique connector, then no thanks.
I thought there was some rules to flag videos as a paid sponsorship? This was clearly bought and paid for by the Pogo connector industry. You never mentioned any of the downsides of Pogo connectors.
Is this crazyman's talk? Did you perhaps make chat GPT write the script for this video?
Who in his right mind thinks POGO pins are good? I can name at least a handful of reasons why they are terrible just off the top of my head. Fire hazards (as @meytimeshki mentioned) and electrical burns are clearly the top two of them, but also they have terrible lifespans. Do you know how fast pogo pins rust? They are electrically charged pieces of metal that are exposed to air, dust and water, and constantly under frictional wear. In short, those things erode crazy fast.
Apple ditched them for a reason. If Apple, the maker of the horrendous magic mouse ditches something, that's a sign that that thing is borderline useless.
And also there's reasons why USBs of every generation hide their data-transferring pins inside the casing. Even Apple's lightning ports are designed so that pins are plugged inside the device and hidden away.
How do pogo pins deal with interference at the connector? This is a fundamental problem as frequencies get higher. This is why faster Ethernet, USB, and video cables all REQUIRE extra layers of shielding.
Sorry, but this seems like a clickbait video with no basic research done.
The question is why is that not already the industry standard?
Did you chat GPT your script? You mentioned the same thing about 500 times. Pogo pins are used in everything from small applications to rugged outdoor applications. The benefits are they are dustproof and could be waterproof and theyre magnetic. 🤮
Pogo pins are anything but taking over
looks like a nice solution
Every video is an ad. Down vote this guy.
Game changer man. This will be future.
no, this setup pulls loose too easily
No, what happened to a universal connector. You just gonna throw that away and pretend like USB C doesn’t exist. That’s the biggest fault in this video, is the fact that you ignored the existence of USB C. Also you claim USB has problems with dirt and debris, guess what, so do your pogo pins, they are magnetic and I’ve had my MagSafe get little tiny rocks and dirt stuck to it because it’s magnetic. You aren’t a journalist, you are a salesman. Stop lying to your viewers.
They are unreliable in specific situations.
They are trash. Every device that uses spring loaded pins I ever owned is 1000X harder to get a connection with. Currently the charging of my G Shock uses this garbage and it's so frustating. With wear and tear this tech is less the useless.
Very nice information Great wark you ❤
Your audio levels suck. Find a better mic
It's AI
keep dreaming...
You’re handsome are u single?
how ignorant
Never trust a things thats come from Temu - scam stie.
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