BoatBuilding - Bending Beams / Pipe-threader Repair (EP68)
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- Rebuilding a historic sailing yacht - Bending Beams / Pipe-threader Repair (EP68)
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EPISODE 68.
In this episode, I finish twisting the beam shelves into place, bending them into their final positions forward and aft. I receive the repaired part of the pipe threading machine in the mail back from Keith Rucker, who brazed together the broken pieces and replaced the bushings. After reassembling the threading machine, it works wonderfully.
Finally, I need to work out an efficient way to fabricate bolts to fasten the beam shelves to the frames, and so I make a few haphazard jibs to help. Pancho takes a bath, and I find another Shipwright to work on the project with me!
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Keith Rucker’s videos on repairing the Threading Machine part.
• Turning Bronze Bushing...
• Removing Bronze Bushin...
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68. Bending Beams / Pipe-threader Repair (Tally Ho EP68)
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*Q&A ANSWERS BELOW!* Remember to leave your question in the first 2 hours of each new video, and I'll answer as many as I can
*Are you going to attempt to make your own sails too?*
No, I am talking to a couple of sailmakers about that currently - but I might be able to help out with parts of the process!
*Why not wet / steam the beam before you twist?*
The timber is so green that I was able to get away without steaming it. Steaming timber can be stressful and it’s good to have a lot of people to handle it. Having said that, it might have been quicker if I had just steamed it .
*Unrelated to this video, but how are you planning to fair the lead keel?*
Lead can be easily and safely trimmed with a power-plane (although it can be controversial on TH-cam!)
*Couldn't you have made the beam with the turns and twists built into it like you did the frames, rather than forcing it.*
I could have, but to get a finished piece of the same dimensions I would have had to start with a much bigger piece. Also, it would be more work to make it like that!
*Can beam shelves be installed as separate pieces, or does it have to be one solid piece of lumber? Is there a point where the length of the boat allows for a split beam shelf?*
It generally has to be one solid piece, although scarfs or other joints are acceptable. Some boats however do not have beam shelves, in this case they would need individual brackets on each frame and thicker planks at the top of the hull.
*It appears that the beam shelves, once bolted together, are not on centerline to the bow blocks. Is the current position within tolerance? If so, what is that tolerance? If not, I suppose the beam shelves and ribs must be adjusted for final fitment and fastening. What is the path forward?*
You are right, they are nearly 1/4” off the centreline right now. But I will pull them onto the centreline before the next step. Shouldn’t be too hard. In the worst case, this would have to be taken into account when fairing the frames.
*What tools will you take onboard Tally Ho? Will there be a dedicated workshop / locker on Tally Ho? We know you love your wood working, and as you said, “a boat is never really finished.” *
Mostly hand tools, and a few battery tools. Chisels, Mallets, Planes, Caulking Irons, saws, measuring and marking tools, rigging tools, leather-working tools, sail-repair tools, bolt cutters, a cordless drill with a few batteries, and plenty of fastenings and scrap timber! It will definitely be hard to decide what to take, considering the limited space.
*What did you end up doing with the ship's original numbers and you plan on incorporating them somehow into the finished project.*
They are on a deck beam, which is unfortunately very rotten. They will be copied onto one of the new deck beams.
*Leo? Did You grease that big chuck bearing? It looked dry to me.*
It has oil fittings on top of the castings - I will keep it well lubricated with those!
*Have you considered a hot riveter? My dad had one with a 5/8 die. A pneumatic riveter might be the thing you need.*
Yes, I am working on faster and more efficient ways to make rivet-heads! I like to start with the most low-tech method, so that I properly understand the process and can go back to it if neccessary. But I have far too many rivets to make them all by hand.
*Are you going to fit her with her original rig or the Fastnet race rig?*
At the moment the plan is to replicate the Fastnet race rig with the enlarged sail plan.
This music is a good change of pace. Cant wait till the hull and upper deck is complete man!! Long time fan sending peace, love and good vibes!
Hi Leo,
Steve & Alix from Acorn to Arabella had a jig made for making copper rivets, they use square rod, but the process is the same.
th-cam.com/video/8xEKFdkOohs/w-d-xo.html got to 17 minutes in for the start of the actual jig.
Thanks first off. Secondly, is there anything you can do to protect the boat from earthquakes? As you are in Pacific Northwest in Washington and a very large earthquake is possible and likely in the future.
Thanks for replying to all the questions Leo. A really good read on all of them.
Good to catch you on the Western G Flyer channel too. That lazy Suzan had me in awe too. lol
@@amandagardner565 Here is a link that starts at 17min in th-cam.com/video/8xEKFdkOohs/w-d-xo.html
Never underestimate a man with a dream and a big ass mallet!
J Ogden and a parrot and a camera...
He had no harness on as well. So many osha violations!
Oof, ass mallet. Sounds painful!
You, sir, are a one man boatbuilding ARMY!
: )
Nice work on that 3/8" die set up Leo. There's a thousand way to skin a cat!!!
And now it’s 1001!
@@rcpmac 1002 Hold a cannon to it's head and Tell It To STRIP
Dude! You’re a genius! Love your work...
If you need new cutting die's send me a personal message with the numbers, that should be stamped on the sides. My father owns Worthey Screw Machine Products in Alabama. He may be able to help you.
Leo's ingenuity and tenacity is mind boggling.
After all that has happened in the last two weeks of never ending bad news 24 hours a day Leo gave me 25 minutes of peace in a world of sadness. Thank you Leo from a retired pensioner
here ! here ! 83 yo
💯 best videos I have ever found for falling asleep
Adapting the threading die to the machine was genius based strictly on results. Excellent solution!
Only two things to add. one keep two hands on the torch when cutting. try using a rivet gun and set to form the heads on the bolts. I look forward to every video thanks for sharing your adventure with all of us.
Really impressive Leo , working through problem after problem , well done to Keith for helping out .
Mad props on the threading jig for the 3/8 rod.. Please take extra care during this COVID-19 time, at least in you case you've something to busy your time with.
There is really no need to replace the rails as the dies will self center onto the work piece that is chucked in the threader, they are mostly an anti-twist mechanism once the thread dies are engaged on the work piece to prevent the die head from spinning. I've used pipe machines in far greater states of disrepair and they worked just fine. The bushing replacement should have this machine lasting another 50 years.
So cool to warp back and see the threading housing that was repair by Keith Rucker from Vintage Machinery in action. Leo your solo work back during this period of the Tally Ho rebuild was amazing to watch. You sir have come a very long way. Thanks for sharing,
Hi, I’m from Singapore. A country with no wooden ship or boat industry, or hobby for that matter.:) Been watching Leo’s channel for a long time and am patron too. Love what Leo’s doing and can’t wait for the next video every time.
I just want to know how many here are from other parts of the world.
By the way, stay safe everyone.
Canary Islands
Ontario, Canada.
Philippines 🇵🇭
Japan
Man that is awesome how you were able to make that IRWIN 3/8 die work on the threader.
I have never been able to do anything with one of those dies except chase threads.
You have the patience of a monk.
2:02 that's the same hammer Wiley Coyote used on the Roadrunner.
@Jim Nickles I knew I had seen that before! ACME hammer number 5.
Rigged up thread jig worked great, nice job.
How does one guy have such an amazing combination of determination, knowledge, skill and creativity?
Mind boggling.
He probably is a Qantas pilot and a movie actor come politician in is spare time
He probably doesn't do drugs
Money - and lots of it.
He's a shipwright. It's literally his job.
As they say, necessity is the mother of invention. Nice job.
I think you can now change your introduction part with My name is Leo i am a ship builder and a sailor and a jig and tool maker
that was a good idea with the thread die
So we are enablers are we? Sorry it just struck my sense of humor. You are doing a great job and I love the updates as well as your ability to find solutions. The moment I saw the success of your threading I gave a literal thumbs up. Yes I was truly excited for your success as if I was there in person. Thank you Leo.
Only downside of this vlog was the absence of Francesca... Keep up the good work!
You are doing a beautiful job of this boat. Take your time. I was going to suggest you sharpen them but you beat me to it.
No "special wire" needed Leo. That weld will stand anything you can throw at it. I have lost count of the number of sockets,spanners etc.that I have welded for one-off jobs over the years.
Right? Just burn her in if its ferrous metal itll stick
Glad you pre heated the socket. The only tools Ive welded that didnt hold were my custom long spot weld chisels for my air hammer.
My friends and family think I’m weird but this series is so cool.
And for those who get it, I think he should hire Franky
"Don't judge you?" you must be joking, you are the smartest, most creative person on the internet. I would sail the world with you knowing all problems will be solved and all things were possible. Amazing in every way. Great job Leo.
Great work Leo ( stay safe ) 🇦🇺
Brilliant work on the cutting die and dome heads for the 3/8 threads! Also loved the effort and ingenuity in bending/twisting the deck beams! You’re years ahead of most shipwrights your age 👍✌️😊🙏🏼⛵️⛵️⛵️⛵️
If you want to flame cut straight and save time grinding, clamp some angle iron on the work with a pair of mole grips one each end, then run the cutting torch along your cut using angle iron as a guide, The flame cuts a safe distance from the angle iron and you can get a pretty straight cut. Love your work Leo Regards Tony.
Man if they had you on Gilligan's island instead of the professor
@Al Schuck I believe it, read "The Unnatural History of the Sea" by Callum Roberts.
Somebody is right, and somebody is wrong.
The Professor would have been fine if the first thing he made was some knock-out drops to dose Gilligan with until they got back to land. But then it would have been a short show. :D
The professor could do anything....... except fix a hole I'm a boat...really..🙄
@@daveevans7438 why would that have been important?
Leo, the depth and breadth of your knowledge is incredible. Your craftsmanship is breathtakingly precise. While I'm sure you will enjoy Tally Ho when she launches, I hope you have a new project to work on for my own selfish purposes. Cheers.
I found that whacking things withe giant cartoon size hammer entertaining. Do more of that, please.
See my comment above ;)
Toujours aussi intéressant bravo et continuer
Mate, never leave your chuck tool in the lathe/threader, it will catch you out one day....honest.
I’ve thrown a chuck key twice. Scary stuff. Would have ended up in the hospital at least had my body caught it. Take the chuck key out before you start
I've seen a 20000lb landies pipe threader flip over because of that on 8 inch pipe
My friend let his loose flannel sleeve catch in the threader during lunch and lost his hand to mid forearm but he is still a working machine !
I sure Keith will catch that when he watches this. There have alway been two thing that will get you kicked out of a shop. This is one and not keeping your area and machine clean is the other
@@jeads21 I agree with the first, but as to the second, there are habitually clean shops but there are also habitually filthy shops.
As always great video and a bit of building in there along with some variety stuff awesomeness!! I have watched these video's since you backed her in to it's current home Talley Ho is an incredible journey i am so looking forward to seeing the finish work thats my most favorite part. you are a very talented young man. Takecare and keep safe Leo.
Just a hint. Never leave a chuck key in the chuck. Get in to the habit of always removing and save a disaster happening
I've a dent in my ribcage to remind me not to do it again
Top tip I also learnt from experience : )
I installed a tube on the drill press specifically to hold the chuck key. If it has a place to go, it is more likely to go there.
It seems like such a stupid thing, because "of course I'll never turn the machine on with the key in", and you probably won't just until you do and you can HOPE it only flings the key out on the shop floor.
One of the biggest scares I've had with my limited experience with machining. It's not a stupid thing - never leave the key in the chuck, no exceptions.
A good way to be extra safe on a lathe is NEVER take your hand off of the chuck key wrench unless you are setting it on a table. First thing we learned in Machine tool class.
Keith was the right guy for that repair. I been watching his channel long time..
I did not believe that there is that much really great timber in the world left. Those beams are beautiful. Nice lumber. Oh, I hope my wife finds out that I am talking pretty about someone else’s wood
Early again cheers Leo, hello from the SouthWest of England 🏴.
To everyone stay safe.
Looking great!
if and when you've had enough boat-builing you can fall back on your considerable talent as a film-maker. tally-ho!
and another thing.... it was surprising the amount of satisfaction i got from watching you slam those beam whatchamacallits into place. i suspect you knew it would.
So True on both counts!
Talent as a filmmaker ? Oh yes, I simple love Leos Storytelling. It‘s always short but concise, never boring, interesting details and good camera- guidance, perfect!
Leo, you are a master at levers, pulleys, and gaining mechanical advantage. Watching what you can do by yourself is very inspiring. Thanks for being here.
"Not got much done!" JeeZus! This video was excellent. Constantly moving and achieving. Very impressive. I very much enjoyed Keith's videos. As an "English American" I love the way he says "AAAWL". Which I assume means "Oil". God and Coronavirus permitting, if I ever make it back to see my friends in the UK, I will be sure to put a sentence in the conversation with the word "Aaawl" in it, and see if they figure it out.
I've read, (but I'm no linguist), that the Southern US way of pronouncing things is quite similar to English pronunciations in some areas of England at the time their ancestors came across.
I knew a guy from Louisiana who tried to explain to me the difference between "you awwl you put in you caww and you awwl" as in you people. Sounded the same to me.
i'm still trying to work out what an "English American" is
Benters I too noticed Keith's pronunciation of Oil. I wonder if it stems from the German spelling Oel?
@@PatrickPoet Absolutely right. The Brits call it Autumn, the Americans call it The Fall. In Elizabethan times, it was called The Fall in England too.
Preheating the metal before welding is a very good choice. great job on the threading jig.
With all the painful news in the world today, I can't exaggerate what a balm it is to see a master craftsman calmly going about his job. Thanks, Leo.
Leo, I am late to the scene here, but have been binging your videos from the start over the past week. After watching this one I am sincerely impressed with your grasp of using hand tools/simple machines combined with common sense and safe practices. Being a craftsman and having a dedication to precision is only earned through commitment and skill developed through experience, but there are many that do not grasp simple machines and the application of forces as you do. You have truly created a community based with Tally Ho. Keep up the great work!
My dad who was a professional fitter always says having the right tool for the job makes things sooo much easier. Is it possible you could update your Amazon wish list with some smaller items we could perhaps get for you?
Jason Frary ...like a webcam 😅
I really like this idea! I would gladly chip in for some stuff when I have the ability to.
@@joanneshellings5457 Or a microphone. You could trade the Bluesmobile for one.
Thank you! I have some stuff on it - www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/2J0TQRC5HKY6S?ref_=wl_share
I think you did a great job with the die holder. Hard to do anymore without knowing how to heat treat n stuff. It works!
Hi Leo, I’m in classic boat restoration in Kelowna B.C. Been following from the start, top work you’re doing there. Any thoughts of assembling a planking crew together like you did for the frames? I know you’re looking for someone with large ship building experience to help, I have lots of experience in classic runabout restoration and would like to come down to help with the planking etc.
Cheers Nick
ETA That is of course after this whole Covid-19 thing gets sorted.
HI Nick, feel free to send me an email at info@sampsonboat.co.uk - thanks!
Always good to see the forman getting involved.. even if she needs a bath before she starts and then again after the day is done.. And we did see her searching your shirt for some goodies! Carry on good luck with the shipwright!
I agree with the guys below, though I live on a farm in the sticks, so being "confined" doesn't mean as much as someone living in a town or city...Hope it doesn't effect you with your people coming to do the planking Leo....Stay safe...cheers...rr Normandy, France
Live on a farm as well, lots of space to move around, my live has barely changed
having atched Keith rebuild refurb that piece it is really rewarding seeing back in place and doing what it ws designed to do. I imagine he feels incredibly proud being part of your journey.
Collabs between two of my favorite TH-cam content creators, tickle my fancy. ;) Excellent work, both of you, yet another machine brought back.
Nice little bodge there Leo, your welding is better than mine BTW, thanks for not mentioning the dreaded wassaname, you two stay safe.
"I want to warn you guys, my metal working is not very good... yet. Im still learning"
Translation: Leo is probably better than 98% of the welders in the World today .... When Leo someday says... "I seem to be getting the hang of this metal working"... it will mean he's a Master metal worker... as he is in all his other boat building skills... Dude is mind numbingly humble, and talented!!!
Leo can weld better than most of the welders I have worked with. His beads are fat and thick. Give him a tig machine and nothing could stop him.
Hi Leo - I've followed you and the Tally Ho from the beginning, and must say that I've been completely amazed by your knowledge, fortitude, endurance, and what we old-timers used to call Egyptian engineering! I'm long time retired, and miss being more involved in creative craftsman undertakings, but this ol' body insists I listen to it and not to wishful thinking. Keep up the excellent work - I wish I were there to lend a hand, though I'd guess that a hand would be about all that I could lend.
How nice would it be to have Tips From Shipwright come and help ya.
What an amazing idea! You two would tear that boat up!
Especially if they had some of those young guys back to carry out some of the labor.
I would love to see lou come out and hang with Leo for a while. Maybe set up a work party along with a visit from lou. That would be awesome to watch.
taper a cone into the end of the bolt (does not have to be the full diameter), makes spreading out a nice round rivet head much easier
Leo and Everybody , Really Awesome to see all the Progress on Yacht Tally Ho !! For Me seeing the shots of the Southern Live Oak was Also Awesome. One thing that has always amazed Me is how well The Live Oak Mallets are holding Up !!! I have seen them being used in several of The Yacht Tally Ho videos . It looks like You are "Beating The Crap Out Of Them" !! Steve Cross akaSuperAx
Great video
Great Video! I am always impressed and fascinated when you use ropes, knots, pulley's and clamps to do things. The problem solving you do is really fun to watch. You make it look super easy!
Cheers! (pint raised)
That rig for the pipe-threader worked surprisingly well. Function over form any day. If it's stupid but it works, it isn't stupid.
Just a pirate building his pirate ship! Your awesome dude, the channel is great. Thanks for documenting all your hard work.
I wished I could like this twice. Except I just mean fictional fun pirates not the real ones in the Indian Ocean and the Carribean.
@@PatrickPoet he is old school shiver me timbers pirate, not modern crack head ak47 pirate
Amazing craftwmanship. Two suggestions; Swap ends on the shaft in the threading machine so the bushing ride on the unworn surface. All you need to do is drill and tap the second end. You made good use of the hammer drill/jackhammer for a couple of needs, but why did you not use it to pound out all the keel bolts, knee bolts and other bolts? Saves splitting hammer shafts and is easier on you thumbs.
I watched Keith's video on how he made his repairs, and he is someone whose channel I've subscribed to!
Leo, what you feel you lack in metal skill, you more than make up for in bravery and common sense. That 3/8" tap adaptor you made is totally wizard.
**QUICK Q&A** Leave your most pressing question here (in a separate comment please) within the first 2 hours of this video's release, and I'll answer as many as I can here. Thanks all!
What tools will you take onboard Tally Ho? Will there be a dedicated workshop / locker on Tally Ho? We know you love your wood working, and as you said, “a boat is never really finished.” BOAT = Bring On Another Thousand lol
What did you end up doing with the ship's original numbers and you plan on incorporating them somehow into the finished project.
What is the weight difference between and old and new frame, just so we can understand how good or bad a state the frames were in. Your iron work would not go a miss on the film Water world or Mad Max still impressive. ☺
When can we order Tally Ho t-shirts!?
The beam shelves angle cuts are of different lengths at the bow; is one beam wider than the other, and if so, any particular reason why?
pre heat crvd to 400degf prior to welding. nice job!
Leo it seems like you could just reverse the guide rods in the machine, and put the worn sections on the fixed side of the machine
I was thinking the same thing.
He'd just have to drill and tap the other ends for mounting:)
Nice thought, but wouldn't the worn sections then be too loose for the location fits in the endplates of the headstock?
@@Gottenhimfella it appears that they retained with set screws that would make up for any wear.
But even if you had to use a shim, it is semi-permanent so you would only have to set it up once
Love watching you rig & do work by yourself. It kinda looked dodgey at times. Very well done. And the 3/8 rod threading turned out very nice. Making the die work on the machine was awesome. You're a real thinker Leo.
I found this channel from Kieth's and I have binged every episode and finished on Thursday. Now I wan't more episodes. You are doing a great job young man. Keep up the great work.
So glad you are seeing a hint of relief and are able to get some help. I can only imagine how you have sacrificed (in a labor of love) to get this far. You have provided so much value to your followers especially in this time when there are so many idle hands. Cheers to you. Best of luck pressing forward.
im Leo, I am horrible at metal work - proceeds to lay down a weld like a boss and makes a tool that works.
Brilliant!
When you are working under a lot of clamps that are moving like that, please wear a hard hat - I was almost killed by a clamp falling while doing something similar....
great job!
Great Leo! You made may day. Impressive skills and out of the box approach on all your problem solving. So happy to watch you as we are in lockdown and therefor even more eager to watch the next step. Could you put a webcam for us just for the time of lockdown?
Hex dies are typically for chasing existing threads where round dies are for cutting new threads.
Brilliant detail, great video, it does bother me a tiny bit that there is a drain somewhere on the Olympic peninsula that is missing it's cover. :D
Been welding many year's sir & can't say I believe that's first time.
Well done
Leo, you are the McGyver of boat builders - amazing :)
+SampsonBoatCo Leo there is nothing to judge about them welds brother. They were pro. Love the vids from the U.K.
I'm immensely impressed by your work. You work accurately, with the attention to perfection that a cabinet maker uses, but you also show great ingenuity in problem solving and getting things done and working. I know there used to be lots of people like this in 'the old days' but I had feared that the breed had died out. You are evidence that there are still people who can turn their hand to whatever needs doing, solve problems imaginatively and effectively, and produce excellent results. Jack of all trades, master of them all!
Even though they say there's different kinds of intelligence, I still imagine Leo is noticeably high on the range. I'm pretty sure he's past me and I'm pretty smart;)
Good working on my
That 3/8 thread plate worked great. Awesome job Leo!
Hi Leo, beautiful job as always, what you are doing with heat on the bronze rod is annealing, effectively resetting the crystaline structure of the metal to counteract the effect of work hardening,
copper work hardens incredibly quickly, and you might find heating to cherry red a couple of times during the process to be helpful. I would say that it would be an idea to anneal the end of the bolt at the end of the process as the final pounding could have made the round end pretty brittle and I'm sure the end pinging off whilst out at sea might cause problems.. there will be good data on annealing silicon bronze out on the internet somewhere.
cheers from Falmouth. Dan.
juxtamorph.com/annealing-bronze/
Ah, the fine British art of bodging. Excellent stuff.
Amazing how much your able to get done by yourself. Some very inventive techniques
A great start to my day. I'm also grateful to Keith for introducing me to your channel. It's been a wonderful thing to binge watch the last couple of weeks.
nice work kid...
With 2 people, this job probably would be 3 times easier and faster.
I work by myself, so I'm always having to create solutions for a 2 person job.
I've done a lot of two-man jobs by myself. It just takes more time and thinking.
It's called the division of labor. 2 working together can do the work of 3 individuals.
Nice job on the die holder.. 👍
I can only imagine the type of people that would give this a thumbs down..may god grant I never meet such people...
Massive thank you to you Leo! The anticipation is now building with your addition of an experienced hand. Hope it works out better than imaginable.
Quesiton: You've mentioned those beam shelves were very green - DO you take moisture readings of the wood to determine how you will approach working with them? And finally, all those dynamic forces on the beams themselves, I assume they become trained to the "set" of the shape and relax? And do you check them every few days or such and make more adjustments to their position before you start bolting them in place?
Hey Leo, Would you be interested in letting someone draw the Tally-ho in 3d? I'm a SOLIDWORKS draftsman and think an accurate drawing of your final lofted drawings would be an interesting challenge. If drawn correctly, major dimensions can be changed to output a drawing of a vessel with a similar overall design but a different size/shape. I'm not sure if this has been done in the timber boat building industry? Let me know, It's been great following this project along 👍 Cheers, Patron Mitch
Mitchell Hill I would love to help you if I could
I'll just bet the plans are available from the Albert Strange Society... ask there. I believe the drawings from his lofting table are exact replications of Strange's D-size.
I drew some of her but then my HDD crashed and I lost all my stl files.
@@1147cc Spitfire? I've held an 1147 in my arms... cute baby! Mark II IIRC... '63? First real engine work I ever did, helped a friend rebuild her.
i had to call two friends around to hold my hand when i changed the oil pump on my sprinter and there you are building that on your own!
Your feathered assistant is fun to watch!
Thanks Leo, stay safe!