How the USSR Lost the Afghan War - Panjshir Valley Battles DOCUMENTARY

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  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals  3 ปีที่แล้ว +234

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  • @dinolandia8978
    @dinolandia8978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +527

    "The situation could not be trusted with the notoriously unreliable Afghan Army." -well, some things never change.

    • @luckabuse
      @luckabuse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Well, after SU left the regime stayed for 3 years. SU occupation is a best thing ever happened to Afghan according to modern polls.
      After US left Afghan army lasted a day.
      That's a difference in motivations bribes and corruption versus schools and universities

    • @Wakamolewonder
      @Wakamolewonder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@luckabuse Nah, afghans just learned not to trust occupying forces and not to fight their proxy wars.

    • @dinolandia8978
      @dinolandia8978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@barbaroslar2235 The SU had a lot of Communist trained Afghans. Not all of them were military. A large number had been technically or scientifically educated within the Soviet universities or academies.
      These people were not the same as the Afghan Army which were mostly conscripts from rural areas and had little if any prior experience dealing with the Soviets.

    • @michaelsurratt1864
      @michaelsurratt1864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@luckabuse It’s almost like the Soviet union was right next-door to Afghanistan crazy

    • @greeneast
      @greeneast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelsurratt1864 or maybe the DRA wasnt a puppet government? Your brain power, your conclusion.

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3543

    The Soviet Union’s withdrawal was actually pretty orderly in comparison to the American’s they just drove out through the border

    • @threathy
      @threathy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +203

      Well withdrawal is always a withdrawal.

    • @vin8889
      @vin8889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +443

      I mean yes and no… there’s a difference between a retreat and an organized retreat

    • @ashwinraj8777
      @ashwinraj8777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +665

      Yup even after Soviet left Najibullah govt survived till 1992... That means 3 yrs.... After US withdrawal they hardly last for 3 mnths....

    • @hanzalaomar9915
      @hanzalaomar9915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +396

      @@ashwinraj8777 more like 10 days

    • @andreassewell7413
      @andreassewell7413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +412

      @@vin8889 America's defeat is a rout. Russia's defeat was a withdrawal.

  • @wach9191
    @wach9191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +520

    My stepdads uncle fought in this one, on Soviet side as he is from Lithuania. Still has PTSD to this day.

    • @asta775
      @asta775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      People ik fought from mujahideen side
      They dont have any ptsd

    • @mohdabrarali7434
      @mohdabrarali7434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@asta775 what's ptsd

    • @mk-oe8yx
      @mk-oe8yx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @@mohdabrarali7434 that's what the mujahideen say 😂

    • @mohdabrarali7434
      @mohdabrarali7434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mk-oe8yx what is the full form or meaning of it

    • @luckabuse
      @luckabuse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Your relative saved a lot of lifes and prevented big drug flow.

  • @rewoppop
    @rewoppop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3308

    I'll be waiting for the British and the US version of this release!

    • @JAG8691
      @JAG8691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +683

      The US episode will be : " The 20 year war to replace the Taliban with the Taliban. "

    • @Veritas.0
      @Veritas.0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@kellscorner1130 You left one out.

    • @weirdofromhalo
      @weirdofromhalo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@JAG8691 Replace the extremists with the less extreme. The Taliban has become less extreme over the years because of all the assassinations of the extremists. We'll see if the Taliban can actually run a government.

    • @JAG8691
      @JAG8691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      @@weirdofromhalo Less Extreme Better Equipped Taliban -" Build the Taliban Back Better " with USA Taxpayers donation in the range of about 82 Billion US Dollars - able to Meme much better than President Xiaou Bai Den's administration.

    • @farhatk6054
      @farhatk6054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@kellscorner1130 in what era of the 5000-year-old of China's history did the Chinese conqueror or invade other countries ?

  • @Smurfonshroom
    @Smurfonshroom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1864

    It’s haunting to think that Afghanistan has been in a state of in and off warfare ever since 1979

    • @dxsaqibdy
      @dxsaqibdy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +213

      Even before that they were battling british and gave them humiliating defeat

    • @abdullah19_m
      @abdullah19_m 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      @@dxsaqibdy well BRITISH defeated them in 2nd Anglo Wae

    • @dxsaqibdy
      @dxsaqibdy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      @@abdullah19_m yes none were able to take hold of Afganistan. During the first war only one british soldier survived and even after there defeat they quickly rose up and they still had some level of autonomy which is a big victory considering that the british were ruling half of the world back then

    • @bastianbezon2687
      @bastianbezon2687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      @@abdullah19_m the first was won by afghans, second one lost, third one won again. So 2-1 to afghans

    • @anghellicamakes2792
      @anghellicamakes2792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      more like since 1000BC

  • @AyoubusMagnus
    @AyoubusMagnus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +431

    "How can you win against someone who sees heaven in the end of the barrel" soviet soldier quote

    • @TheTommy9898
      @TheTommy9898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Mongols: send em all go heaven then

    • @mohammedfarseen6046
      @mohammedfarseen6046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@TheTommy9898 later mongols were given one way ticket to hell so properly that they later started seeing heaven before the sword

    • @TheTommy9898
      @TheTommy9898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@mohammedfarseen6046 sure, then Timur came to seal the deal

    • @thoughtshewasaryan2591
      @thoughtshewasaryan2591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@TheTommy9898 that time when you realize timur was a muslin lol

    • @TheTommy9898
      @TheTommy9898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      ​@@thoughtshewasaryan2591 so what? Most mongols converted to muslim anyways. Islam neither caused nor stopped any of them (including Timur) from their brutality streak. I mean after all, a faithful muslim like Timur SURELY won't massacre entire communities of fellow faithful muslims right? Riiight?

  • @HistoryOfRevolutions
    @HistoryOfRevolutions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1574

    "The tyrant dies and his rule is over, the martyr dies and his rule begins"
    - Soren Kierkegaard

    • @lionelhutz5137
      @lionelhutz5137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @Halim Abdullayev inshallah!

    • @michaeldangelo4521
      @michaeldangelo4521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Not if we martyr them ALL

    • @GhGh-sj4wb
      @GhGh-sj4wb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      The Afghans regained their land from the US occupation🔥💪🏼

    • @mojotheaverage
      @mojotheaverage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@michaeldangelo4521 you tried... and failed, miserably

    • @michaeldangelo4521
      @michaeldangelo4521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@mojotheaverage oh no. I didn’t try. I wasn’t there.

  • @snowfox-xc1qq
    @snowfox-xc1qq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +294

    I'm not sure if this is a new thing but Kings and Generals doing a modern video is something I really enjoy, please keep doing more of these.

    • @ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs
      @ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They do it times to times.

    • @Razendle
      @Razendle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I really enjoyed the six day war and the gulf wars video

    • @ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs
      @ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Razendle
      Pretty much about Israel.

    • @lyonvensa
      @lyonvensa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's one of their rarer series, but it's still quality content for sure~

    • @muhammadrayhanfirdaus1309
      @muhammadrayhanfirdaus1309 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      coz it's still about "Kings" and Generals, maybe? with more firepower ofc

  • @kyrg
    @kyrg ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I was in Panjshir in 2010. I worked with an Afghan Colonel who was a Mujahideen Commander during the Soviet invasion. I commented on the large amount of abandoned / destroyed Russian armor still in the valley. He said "You think this is a lot? There used to be as many as the hairs on my head"
    Panjshir is one of the most beautiful parts of the world I've been to, I hope one day it can fine the peace it deserves.

    • @OliverFlinn
      @OliverFlinn ปีที่แล้ว +9

      well now that you guys also lost the war and left, peace is essentially back.

    • @kyrg
      @kyrg ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OliverFlinn Peace as long as you follow the Taliban rules, Most people don't enjoy living like the year 700 AD.

    • @glennmandigo6069
      @glennmandigo6069 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@OliverFlinn WRONG IT'S WORSE
      Also, we were betrayed, not defeated

    • @uxaines8910
      @uxaines8910 ปีที่แล้ว

      Бок издеп бардыны ал жерге

    • @kyrg
      @kyrg ปีที่แล้ว

      @@uxaines8910 бирок сени таба алат

  • @Hakazu
    @Hakazu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1042

    I wish you guys were my history teachers when I was younger, would have learned way more. Good work as usual!

    • @betweenthedimensions8315
      @betweenthedimensions8315 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can still learn from this channel now…?

    • @FeverMutt
      @FeverMutt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yeah. Your Marxist teachers were too busy teaching you how to be a good little communist.

    • @ProvidenceNL
      @ProvidenceNL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@FeverMutt You dont even know what the words mean that you're using.

    • @sev5348
      @sev5348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Never too late to learn

    • @Samirustem
      @Samirustem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Should be carefull teaching history. Some teachers just feed people history. This channel does that to. It is not good for children. It makes the them intellectually lazy. I am very greatfull I had teacher who always made us comment on history

  • @agxec2932
    @agxec2932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1265

    We need a next video on how Rambo single handedly decimated the Soviets in pitched battles in Afghanistan. It's because of Rambo that Soviets lost the war.

    • @ScottyShaw
      @ScottyShaw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Not quite. Colonel Trautman played a key role as well!

    • @ErnestJay88
      @ErnestJay88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      Rambo is back, he single handedly defeat Taliban and make US win the Afghan War.
      (according to Hollywood)

    • @alswann2702
      @alswann2702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      That's Sargent John Rambo to you, buddy!

    • @Ninjersey1
      @Ninjersey1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Akio jayyid believe me the CIA had quite a few Rambos out there secretly helping your countryman.Sabotage,training soldiers,you name it we were there

    • @VonGoldfinger
      @VonGoldfinger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That’s the vid we don’t deserve but the vid that we need.

  • @scottsaunders5453
    @scottsaunders5453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    The similarities are so eerie - never knew that the Afghan army had such a reputation of unreliability dating back even before the US departure.

    • @sundog486
      @sundog486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      The Afgans are not a nation but a group of tribes. Loyalty will be highest to their tribe, rather than the "government".

    • @stillshehzada
      @stillshehzada 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      People have to read full history of afghanistan from 17th century. This country is not peace of cake to eat but drope of poisen that will kill you.

    • @HowlingWolf518
      @HowlingWolf518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Can't create a late industrial military out of a feudal country - the worldviews don't line up.

    • @luxemag4347
      @luxemag4347 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you misread the facts on the ground. Read Akio's comment. You complain your mercenary pikemen routed first in a sim game.

    • @davestevens6283
      @davestevens6283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In order to have an army you need the soldiers to be willing to die for an abstract idea of a country, nation or cause, prefer it over self-preservation and protection of their own families even, accept the hierarchy, for them to have the trust that their commanders and brothers in arms are like minded and are committed as they are, and that fighting will be rewarded with respect and\or money - otherwise you either surrender.
      The US government figured long ago that it has actually become hostage an Afghan regime which has no viability and the internal legitimacy required to keep an army on its own. It had to do its best to make the appearance of trust, while making plans to get out as quickly as possible, with zero casualties if possible, as a top priority - meaning zero coordination with local forces and persons, since any leak or betrayal could undermine that top priority. They obviously hoped to have more time and make a better exit in the PR sense, but were probably willing to accept this scenario as well as better than having hundreds of casualties over months of withdrawal.

  • @SAMAYDOSTDAR
    @SAMAYDOSTDAR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    Both of my grandfathers fought in the soviet Afghan war and the father of my father died in one those battles while my grandfather from my mother's side died just few years ago of old age

    • @GreaterAfghanistanMovement
      @GreaterAfghanistanMovement 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I had family on both sides that died fighting alongside the Mujhadeen

    • @arminius6506
      @arminius6506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@GreaterAfghanistanMovement and what's your TH-cam name??? Stop making this crap up

    • @SAMAYDOSTDAR
      @SAMAYDOSTDAR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GreaterAfghanistanMovement او بچه راست میگی یا نه

    • @mwanikimwaniki6801
      @mwanikimwaniki6801 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GreaterAfghanistanMovement Interesting

    • @GreaterAfghanistanMovement
      @GreaterAfghanistanMovement 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@arminius6506 Its TH-cam pajeet, people can chose any name they like. You can call yourself "Pakistani Warrior" for all i care.

  • @Dave1-08
    @Dave1-08 3 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    Any chance of doing a video on the events after the soviet withdrawal? The Taliban takeover in the 90s, the US invasion after 9/11, later NATO operations such as Operation Medusa and the the advance of the Taliban in the summer of 2021 would make a decent series.

    • @Rakkasan2013L
      @Rakkasan2013L 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I second this!

    • @fanbuoy9234
      @fanbuoy9234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Very interesting topic, but it's difficult to properly capture something which is still ongoing to that extent. Some historical distance is often necessary in order to get a better understanding of the various factors and details going on, but also some emotional distance from the events themselves.

    • @artz5665
      @artz5665 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It will require Hollywood kind of money. And making a video were US intelligence supplied $ and instructors to make out somebody military international organization . and then it backfired so bad that you wish "that only nose was bleeding " ...
      Gonna make some politicians look really bad + most of it still classified .so I don't think it's coming out anytime soon

    • @artz5665
      @artz5665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look at the Rambo part 3 if I'm not mistaken. See how they presenting those afgan rebel fighters, that russian which switch sides.... For people in 90s it Looked right. But if you show it to someone from 2000s especially if they were stationed there ... I would think not so much. So even if they make that kind of movie it probably be so fake I wouldn't want to watch it

    • @رمضانكريم-ز1ل
      @رمضانكريم-ز1ل 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      bro , Taliban veteran commanders from both wars are still there alive and well , and every news outlet have someone in kabul even Fox news ! let them make a documentary interviewing them, for example Khalil haqqani was the Mujahddin commander in operation Majistral seen in the video , then the Tank commander at the battle of khost in 92' , he was featured nearly on a dozen channels but all about Women rights and shit of that kind.

  • @lkgrave4959
    @lkgrave4959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    USA in 2001: We won't make the same mistakes.
    20 years later, made the same mistakes.

    • @davidblair9877
      @davidblair9877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      20 years later? Kid, we started making the same mistakes in 2001. It just took us 20 years to admit it.

    • @elmascapo6588
      @elmascapo6588 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The mistake was not putting enough men

    • @elmascapo6588
      @elmascapo6588 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@victuz well, then the soviets were the braindeath since they did expect peace and stability

    • @elmascapo6588
      @elmascapo6588 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@victuz the soviets being more braindeath in that one

    • @davidblair9877
      @davidblair9877 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elmascapo6588 so did the geniuses running the Bush administration. Rumsfeld and Cheney genuinely thought they could just walk into Afghanistan, order an election held, and that would be that. Never asked how the election would be organised, or whether some Afghans might resent foreign troops in their homes, or what domestic politics might look like, or...any of it. Walk in, unfurl a banner, let the little people figure it out from there.
      Idiots.

  • @ElBandito
    @ElBandito 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1217

    Americans then: LoL, the Soviets didn't learn from our Vietnam.
    Russians now: LoL, the Americans didn't learn from our Afghanistan.

    • @barbiquearea
      @barbiquearea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      Afghanistan: Who's next? Bring it on!

    • @ironheart5830
      @ironheart5830 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@barbiquearea Pakistan challenge accepted :D

    • @TheRandCrews
      @TheRandCrews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      @@barbiquearea lmao china

    • @indranildutta5838
      @indranildutta5838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@barbiquearea Afghanistan will be ruled by Afghans not by a third party

    • @indranildutta5838
      @indranildutta5838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @blahblahblah blah time will tell

  • @historydoesntrepeatitselfb7818
    @historydoesntrepeatitselfb7818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +588

    This feels like a crime watching for free, this content is the cut of the cream of even commercial documentaries, well done kings and generals you have a patron

    • @ubuk-5676
      @ubuk-5676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      no it is not a crime to watch free this kind of things should be free

    • @ubuk-5676
      @ubuk-5676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      not everyone living with the us dollar or euros it is too much for us to pay this kind of things in our country

    • @nudisco7882
      @nudisco7882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Their Patreon listed in the About Section 👍

    • @PerryKobalt
      @PerryKobalt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ubuk-5676 so true

    • @joschafinger126
      @joschafinger126 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      One word: Patreon

  • @ycplum7062
    @ycplum7062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The US military warned the Bush Jr administration that occupying Afghanistan would problematic, but Rumsfeld was dismissive of them.

    • @ycplum7062
      @ycplum7062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@victuz
      Many people think that Generals all are looking for anexcuse to go to war because that is what they spent their careers studying. More often than not, they tend to be conservative (some say pessimistic). It is the politicians that are over optimistic and fail to understand teh level of effort and follow through required in war.

    • @ycplum7062
      @ycplum7062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelpetrovich5353
      I saw Rumsfeld as Admiral Tarkin. Cheney would be Senator Palpatine, th epuppet master hiding in the shadows.

    • @driffbro3380
      @driffbro3380 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ycplum7062 then who would be Darth Vader?

    • @ycplum7062
      @ycplum7062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@driffbro3380
      I was split between Rumsfeld and Bush Jr, but lean toward Rumsfeld. However, a mashup of the two would likely be a better fit. LOL

  • @mojotheaverage
    @mojotheaverage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +457

    'The aura of might of the soviet Union was shattered'
    Sounds familiar

    • @barbiquearea
      @barbiquearea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Thankfully the United States hasn't dealt with its own Chernobyl disaster yet.

    • @dillonblair6491
      @dillonblair6491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Gaurav Khanna
      Not really, we aren't even really in syria.

    • @joevenespineli6389
      @joevenespineli6389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If America is an empire in its own right then I wonder in what stage is it in now? End of the golden age? The middle of its decline?

    • @sntslilhlpr6601
      @sntslilhlpr6601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@joevenespineli6389 I think the end of the golden age was probably 9/11, though the seeds of our doom were planted a couple decades earlier with disastrous tax cuts for the rich, deregulation, and the rise of right-wing propaganda outlets. And while I'm extremely pessimistic about our future and have been for many years, the doomers who think we're anywhere close to the middle or end of our decline are delusional. This beast will kick and scream for quite a bit longer and none of us alive today are likely to see its end. Just continually worse quality of life. Seems kinda trendy for people to think the end is near, but there's just too much momentum for that to be the case outside of something crazy like a huge natural disaster (the "big one", yellowstone, asteroid, etc) or nuclear war.
      The difference between the Soviet Union and the US is huge so it's not a good comparison. The USSR's power came from the perception of its power. The US doesn't have to pretend. We're more like Rome, and it took a long ass time for Rome to collapse.

    • @talkingtree8166
      @talkingtree8166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@barbiquearea not yet....

  • @maninthemiddleground2316
    @maninthemiddleground2316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +749

    Soviet Withdrawal in Afghanistan was “How not to end the war” until America broke the record when they withdrew from the same country. 😅

    • @bingingbinging8597
      @bingingbinging8597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Yeah but the withdrawal was nothing like this lol. 13 marines dead only and 100,000 evacuated. Not even CLOSE to the chaos of this one

    • @commisaryarreck3974
      @commisaryarreck3974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      @@bingingbinging8597
      Alongside an 83 billion dollar donation to the terrorists lol

    • @DickCheneyXX
      @DickCheneyXX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Genocide should have been considered more seriously on both occasions. This sets a bad precedent.

    • @ernstholm8070
      @ernstholm8070 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't talk about stuff that you are too dumb to understand 😂

    • @Methodius7
      @Methodius7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@bingingbinging8597 Soviet installed government survived for 5 more years. US puppet one for 2 weeks :D

  • @mikedoingmikethings702
    @mikedoingmikethings702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another awesome K&G episode!!! Would you please include approximate month and year for these battles? I would feel more immersed in the story… THANK YOU!!!

  • @mattmckane9454
    @mattmckane9454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +798

    Me, a HoI4 player: "How did they lose? Afghanistan is so easy to conquer, they only have like 4 divisions."

    • @stevenfallinge7149
      @stevenfallinge7149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Lack of trying. Also worst strategy ever, such as having a communist leader who didn't know how to govern and bombing an entire city just for protesting.

    • @drmaxhattan
      @drmaxhattan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

      HOI Player mindset: 3 mountain infantry division and one unit of close air support providing ground support is enough to annex Afghanistan hahaha ez game.
      USSR in Afghanistan: Fuck damn, this shit is getting hard, let's send 100,000+ soldiers and more than 400 military aircraft, 400 artillery and 100 tanks to battle the Mujahideen.

    • @AKY1LUV
      @AKY1LUV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      "Easy to conquer" lmao Afganistan is the graveyard of all superpowers, it's never been conquerd.

    • @zamirroa
      @zamirroa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I just nuke the region. Problem solved

    • @rafaelglopezroman1110
      @rafaelglopezroman1110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@Voodoo3397 I mean any resistance can be easily supressed irl, if you are willing to commit warcrimes and depopulate the area by clearing every population center. That's how the americans conquered the west.

  • @gauravrao6529
    @gauravrao6529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Amazing video! Looking forward to more 20th century conflicts from the KnG Team!

  • @mafiosomemer3730
    @mafiosomemer3730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The US and Coalition: *Left Afghanistan in a botched plan*
    *Post-Soviet Russia:* First time?

  • @twostepfromkek7548
    @twostepfromkek7548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    My father was serving in the Soviet army at that time. His company was sent to Afghanistan on a special mission. It so happened that he was not taken. A week later, he learned that the entire company had died. I asked him why this war was necessary. Was it worth giving up your life for nothing? He didn't answer...

    • @davidalexsebastiank6250
      @davidalexsebastiank6250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Because of Leonid Brezhnev's stupid decisions

    • @aryanpashtun416
      @aryanpashtun416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      My Father was an US exchange student at the time and was hired by CIA to escort stinger missiles to mujahideen in Afghanistan.

    • @ArmySigs
      @ArmySigs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@aryanpashtun416 Wow, he must have some good stories

    • @UmarFarooq-nl4eq
      @UmarFarooq-nl4eq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@yousafdaudzai3078 artifical durand line what a joke

    • @usmanzafar4751
      @usmanzafar4751 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UmarFarooq-nl4eq Jane de isko....pagal ha..

  • @daspai7588
    @daspai7588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    Just finished reading A Thousand Splendid Suns. This is exactly what I needed.

    • @ericcloud1023
      @ericcloud1023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That book is so very 😭 sad 😭

    • @sadiqjaved2457
      @sadiqjaved2457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That book is propaganda

    • @MuhammadUsman-mi4jk
      @MuhammadUsman-mi4jk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That book and kite runner are just full of pain

    • @barbiquearea
      @barbiquearea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MuhammadUsman-mi4jk Although in Kite Runner the protagonist Amir mostly avoid the horrors of the war as he and his dad flee to the United States when the Soviets invade their country.

    • @TheRandCrews
      @TheRandCrews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MuhammadUsman-mi4jk I read that book in High school, gave me a good perspective

  • @rakaipikatan8922
    @rakaipikatan8922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Kings and Generals:
    Taliban: *"Are you sure about that?"*

    • @thegreenknight1970
      @thegreenknight1970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea because Afghan are only good at hiding in their mountains.

    • @Jupiter.141
      @Jupiter.141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The mujahideen beat the soviets head on while the taliban just won because of an agreement plus because of humanitarian political bullcrap, NATO was on leash

    • @m6narch
      @m6narch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thegreenknight1970 try to live on top of those mountains, you won’t last a month
      It’s called hindukush for a reason

    • @superlumbagoman9370
      @superlumbagoman9370 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ismaelbvb889 exposed in the middle of a valley so they can be killed, I suppose.

    • @flogger8413
      @flogger8413 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jupiter.141 "beat the soviets headon" you speak of Mujahids as if they're the most effective but in reality they are extremely weak when it comes to actual combat. War Analysts agreed the Soviets were for the most part effective. Although the Soviets managed to Stabilize the region they did not
      solve the core issues (primarily violation of religious and cultural beliefs) that ensured the insurgency would persist. Not to mention brutal scorched earth operations. When the soviets stopped supporting Afghanistan in 91 it was only a matter of time the country would collapse. The U.S. has made a similar mistake to the Soviets, and will inevitably ensure a similar outcome

  • @tafsir5191
    @tafsir5191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    -An unreliable and ineffective national army
    -A sturdy enemy who sees death as a blessing
    -Inability to capitalize on hard fought victories
    -Low local support due to lots of collateral damage.
    Why does this sound so familiar? :) :)

  • @remove_marko
    @remove_marko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    "Out of commission - become a pillbox
    Out of ammo - become a bunker
    Out of time - become heroes"
    The Beast of War (1988)

    • @StelyDn
      @StelyDn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have seen this movie. Great one.

  • @mexicoball2529
    @mexicoball2529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Communist Afghanistan: Withdraw while you can homie i hold them off (lasts for 3 years)
    US: Please hold while i withdraw
    Afghanistan: AHHHHHHHHHh

    • @elmascapo6588
      @elmascapo6588 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's easy when you have airbases next to the country and you can bomb them for 3 years
      (2 million afgan civilians were killed in this 10 year war)

  • @tuzked
    @tuzked 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Usa: Damn those Afghans beat us
    Russia: First time?

    • @jamescross6109
      @jamescross6109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The difference is the USSR lost militarily. Whereas the US and the rest of ISAF dominated the battlefield but lost politically.

    • @tuzked
      @tuzked 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamescross6109 thanks for the info man

    • @CA-jz9bm
      @CA-jz9bm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@jamescross6109 USSR did not lose militarily, they left a government that held out militarily for another 2-3 years, Soviets fought a tougher and more numerous enemy that was supported by NATO and killed more of them, US fought a fraction of that with modern technology and with lesser enemy and had a shameful defeat. The casualties YSSR casualties is high because they were fighting themselves while US were using Afghan army who suffered 3 times the casualties that it did under Soviets. Then US shamefully run away.

    • @voidwalker9223
      @voidwalker9223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CA-jz9bm stop trying to sugar coat it. Taliban was far more ruthless than mujahideen. Why do you think muj lost to taliban in 90s? Taliban is funded by Iran, Pakistan and many others over the past 20 years. American tactics were far superior to USSR.
      Plus let’s not forget USSR as a whole failed to spread and the entire nation collapsed just 2 years later. You can try To dumb down America all you want but US still was fighting 3 major wars including Libya, Syria and parts of Middle East and Africa. while maintaining its nation and entire global military and bases and carriers all over the world at same time. And guess what….it’s still here.
      USSR couldn’t even handle 1 war that it was bordering none the less. Good try though.

    • @voidwalker9223
      @voidwalker9223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Abid Rahman because it’s well documented . Do you have any idea how many Russia s committed suicide after Afghanistan and Chechnya? Russia is known for hiding a lot of info trying to get to public. There is a few books of after the fall of USSR and it talked about many suicide rates exploding especially Afghan veterans.

  • @leeboy26
    @leeboy26 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    7:32 -When you're five minutes into Jihad and chill and he gives you this look...

    • @thecombatwombat7652
      @thecombatwombat7652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "You can kill 10 of my men for everyone one of yours but even at that rate you will lose." - Ho Chi Minh
      "Those are rooky numbers, you gotta pump those up." Mujahideen, probably.

    • @the_phen0m639
      @the_phen0m639 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mujahid

  • @LordMiles
    @LordMiles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve been to the valley, there is now a museum there with tanks that were left behind and have been painted by locals. There is a toilet (portable toilet with a hole cut in it) at the top that has the best view but there is a house directly below the toilet so I felt bad for using it

  • @LifeWithParole
    @LifeWithParole 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Thanks for the video! USSR really showed the world how not to withdraw from Afghanistan, thankfully we took this lesson to heart

    • @asmitasinha6547
      @asmitasinha6547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah the US really took it by heart by running away overnight

    • @stacey_1111rh
      @stacey_1111rh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@asmitasinha6547 Yeah Osama learned really well too didnt he

    • @sovietheart3883
      @sovietheart3883 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The withdrawal waa successful

    • @sovietheart3883
      @sovietheart3883 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@asahitoki3228The soviets could have easily won if they werent forced by the soviet government to leave.

    • @Progen1A
      @Progen1A ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sovietheart3883 USSR had lots of political instability, people protested on the streets to withdraw from the war, it made sense to end the war anyways

  • @No_name.0103
    @No_name.0103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Please make a video on how the DRA fell to the Mujahideen and how the Taliban took over Afghanistan the first time. Maybe even how the Taliban regime collapsed.

    • @No_name.0103
      @No_name.0103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @T A Taliban collapsed in the year 2001. They were recreated after that and eventually, took over the country for a second time.

    • @psi_blade200
      @psi_blade200 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@No_name.0103 US full control only major city Taliban still control in rural area

    • @No_name.0103
      @No_name.0103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Ibrahim Suleman being told by people or not, I'm aware that the Neo Taliban had huge influence and power over the Southern regions, specially "Kandahar" but all came after the year 2001 where the US and the Northern alliance together collapsed the old Taliban regime. And the main reason for the rise of the Taliban to such great force they are today was corruption within the Afghan government all those 20 years. All the sources I've found and researched suggest that the main reason for the rise of the Taliban was corruption within the government or simply said, corrupt politicians.
      Anyways, the Taliban rose to power from 20% to 100% as far as I'm aware and all odds were against them back in the years (2001 - 2005) so please don't try to talk me down on this one as well.

  • @daca8395
    @daca8395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    Step 1: create and finance paramilitary group to fight against soviets
    Step 2: allow them to roam uncontroled for 20 years
    Step 3: destabilise thw region by occupying country for 20 years.
    Step 4: withdraw from the country after you took everything you could, leaving the group to take over allready destroyed country
    Great plan, US, great plan...

    • @riichobamin7612
      @riichobamin7612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Not to mention: Leave behind billions of dollars worth of military armaments, supplies and other equipments to said militants.

    • @مبتسمألفينوتسعةمائةوسبعةوسبعون
      @مبتسمألفينوتسعةمائةوسبعةوسبعون 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@riichobamin7612 Military equipment won't help develop or rebuild the country so still US made profit during those 20 years.

    • @yessir7147
      @yessir7147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@riichobamin7612 We left behind guns and trucks, you can get those anywhere.
      We destroyed and took all the important stuff. You need to relax, the Taliban aren’t flying our helicopters around or using our satellites

    • @riichobamin7612
      @riichobamin7612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@مبتسمألفينوتسعةمائةوسبعةوسبعون you missed the point completely 🤦🏻

    • @riichobamin7612
      @riichobamin7612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@yessir7147 bro, "you can get those anywhere" ? They outlived the US invasion and recaptured Afghanistan with less equipment. Now that they have more, they are more dangerous. It doesn't matter even if it can be found anywhere (which I doubt, I don't think any nation is going to officially sell arms and munition to the Taliban govt anytime soon), equipping militants is not good in any sense.

  • @kanishksharma5696
    @kanishksharma5696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Amazing Video It briefly explains The situation in Afghanistan during that period looking forward to see more modern warfare Videos . Thank you Team Kings and Generals

  • @albanian-moroccan9184
    @albanian-moroccan9184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video! Can you make a video about the 2 chechen wars? It's very interesting.

  • @edalder2000
    @edalder2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    There is a book called "Charlie Wilson's War" that details how The CIA helped fund The Mujahedeen as well.

    • @edalder2000
      @edalder2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Halcon_Sierreno True. The movie is "meh." The book is fascinating.

    • @jopiaspieder1184
      @jopiaspieder1184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Payback for Russia helping out the North Vietnamese

    • @czechpatriot2230
      @czechpatriot2230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@jopiaspieder1184 Sorry I forgot. Did Vietnamese flew jets into Russian Skyscrapers?

    • @jopiaspieder1184
      @jopiaspieder1184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@czechpatriot2230 you tell me if they did

    • @VeryFamousActor
      @VeryFamousActor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jopiaspieder1184 Lmao, no, they did not.

  • @BayarArchery
    @BayarArchery 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The visuals in the video are amazing! Not sure when the upgrade occured, but it's beautiful.

  • @ahadisgoat
    @ahadisgoat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Finally a documentary on this interesting war.

  • @nosorab3
    @nosorab3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is great! Do a video on the British and American Afghan wars too!

  • @BirdPowerHistory
    @BirdPowerHistory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    If only my history teachers from school were as good at explaining events and making them as interesting as you do. Keep up the great work.

  • @maxa.9135
    @maxa.9135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel that Brilliant and Skillshare keep the entire TH-cam education section floating singlehandedly.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Given what recently happened in Afghanistan I'm not surprised this video came out. Nice job. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.

  • @morbiusenjoyer2847
    @morbiusenjoyer2847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Yea another upload from kings and generals love the work you do

  • @blackwilliams88
    @blackwilliams88 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I listened to old Soviet interviews of the war and the mujahedeen were a nightmare to deal with. Imagine a trained soviet army unable to decipher where you are firing from whether cliff, mountain, hill, or house.

  • @SuperScarface109
    @SuperScarface109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Perfect timing ☺. just finished the soviet chapter which describes the panjshir operations (from operation no. 1 to 9).
    Afghanistan: A Military History from Alexander the Great to the War Against the Taliban by Stephen Tanner.

  • @Mr_M_History
    @Mr_M_History 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Hats off to the Afghans. The turn of the century dealt them the worst set of cards! 3 generations now have no knowledge of anything but persistent war...

    • @sajibsjb
      @sajibsjb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's Afghans

    • @sajibsjb
      @sajibsjb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Boş İşler MüdürüI don't see the point, so many different aboriginal people live in my country. They have their own tribal names but at the end their passports or ID says they're Bangladeshi and I don't think they have issues with that.
      Here I was talking about nationality not ethnicity.

    • @aravindva1020
      @aravindva1020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Boş İşler Müdürü but they are like 40% of population right?

    • @DoctorDeath147
      @DoctorDeath147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Boş İşler Müdürü Afghan is a nationality not an ethnicity. One can be a Pashtun, a Tajik, a Hazara, an Uzbek, a Baloch, an Arab, a Kyrgyz, a Nuristani, or a Pamiri but they are still an Afghan by citizenship. There is no Afghan ethnicity so he is correct.

    • @pakistanzucks
      @pakistanzucks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DoctorDeath147 actually afghan means pashtun but also applys to non Pashtuns its strange but thats how it us

  • @jl88570
    @jl88570 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video guys. Make videos and for the gulf war please. You do excellent work.

  • @gideonm.7425
    @gideonm.7425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great video! There is a russian movie from 2005 called "The 9th Compamy" ("9я Рота"/"Devyataya Rota") that is centered arround this company, during Operation Magistral'.

    • @jarosawporanski4288
      @jarosawporanski4288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In this movie almost all the 9-th Company died in the battle. K&G material shows, that only 6 Soviet soldiers were killed (17:13)...

  • @Masiba7517
    @Masiba7517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Watching this while Taliban kills last panjshir resistance

  • @RangoKing
    @RangoKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the Best Shortest videos I have ever watched on Afghan soviet War!! Hats off to the video makers!!!!

  • @humanityliberationfront9495
    @humanityliberationfront9495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    Can you do one on the United States how they lost Afghanistan 🙃

    • @raashidmohammed801
      @raashidmohammed801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That would be interesting but i think the battles would be classified

    • @takodrua1081
      @takodrua1081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      We didn't lose?? We left...

    • @sajibsjb
      @sajibsjb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@takodrua1081 aloe vera gell is good for burns you know.

    • @blackknightsmedia5410
      @blackknightsmedia5410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@takodrua1081 loooooool they lost like how they lost Saigon in Vietnam. Taliban are flexing their propaganda how they defeated the US. And flexing their continuation reign, after all major empire falls since Alexander the Great.

    • @raashidmohammed801
      @raashidmohammed801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@takodrua1081 Are you guys still using that sorry of an excuse?

  • @khalid969
    @khalid969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    It has always been my understanding that the Soviets started losing the war only when the Americans decided to supply the Mujahideen with surface to air missiles, thus ending their control of the skies. This was also popularised by an American movie suggesting exactly that. However, there was no mention of that in this video, leaving me to wonder whether that was only American propaganda or did Kings and Generals drop the ball on this one.

    • @catmate8358
      @catmate8358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      In part, but reality is always more complex. The USSR collapsed 3 years after the withdrawal from Afghanistan and that was a much more important factor than the CIA arming of the Mujahedeen. After the Soviet withdrawal, the weapons supplied by the CIA were massively put to use by the Afghan warlords to rip the country apart. This in turn gave rise to the Taliban who decided that enough is enough and that order needs to be restored, in which they mostly succeeded, albeit in their own way. The US does not tolerate the non-puppet regimes anywhere and as the Taliban proved difficult to control and bribe, this led to the US attack.

    • @NexusWarior211
      @NexusWarior211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That's not even close to true lol, Soviets have had enough of the war long before the first Stinger was ever fired.

    • @pyatig
      @pyatig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Charlie Wilson’s war has as much truth as enemy at the gates

    • @khalid969
      @khalid969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pyatig That's the one I was referring to. And I did check out "Enemy at the gates". The trialer says it is based on a true story lol

    • @thegreatest1176
      @thegreatest1176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      at the start soviet were struggling then by intoducing heavy air attack they manage to inflict large sum of casualties, then the stinger come which changed that. Its a fact in afghanistan that you need air support if you want to win the war.

  • @lfield2494
    @lfield2494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Interesting and useful information vid. But kinda fails in its stated goal of explaining "how the USSR lost the Afghan War". One can gather from the vid that the Soviets had similar problems that the US led forces had; ie winning the firefights but unable to hold the ground for any sustained period; the inability to establish a popular national government; and the failure to create a battle effective Afghan army. Add to that the fact that in both wars the Mujahadeen/Taliban enjoyed safe haven in Pakistan for purposes of command, external support, training, and resupply. These issues are relatively easy to identify. Why the superpowers of the USSR and the US were unable to address them is the more difficult question to understand.

    • @gofar5185
      @gofar5185 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      its all about GEOPOLITICS... afghanistan is a natural victim of geopolitics because of its geographic location...

    • @mysticonthehill
      @mysticonthehill 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      L Field well said

  • @t-evans
    @t-evans 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Sad to think what happened more recently in the Panjshir Valley.

    • @muslimking3869
      @muslimking3869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nothing happened, taliban fought soviet freed themselves and also they freed themselves from American nato occupation

    • @lukemarshall5605
      @lukemarshall5605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@muslimking3869 yeah what about the new northern alliance

  • @LotsOfThoughts
    @LotsOfThoughts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I had no idea the death counts were that high. Makes the US-Afghan war look like a skirmish.

    • @kalebloshbough1551
      @kalebloshbough1551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Us trying to be nice otherwise Afghan would look like hiroshima and nagasaki

    • @MuhammadHamza-fi1lb
      @MuhammadHamza-fi1lb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@kalebloshbough1551 nope us can't use nuke here other than nukes us had used every thing from daisy cutters to the biggest non nuclear bomb u lost accept it don't give excuses you horribly lost against farmers with shotguns

    • @SavageHenry777
      @SavageHenry777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@MuhammadHamza-fi1lb Mohammad buddy, the US military didn't lose by any metric. They followed orders and left when ordered to. There was norhing for them to fight for. No military can change the mind and culture of a people. All the Taliban had to do was remain in some form until the US left.

    • @MustafaRehman768
      @MustafaRehman768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Causalities were always on the Afghan side only few thousand occupiers.

    • @MuhammadHamza-fi1lb
      @MuhammadHamza-fi1lb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@SavageHenry777 bro us came with the agenda to destroy taliban that was what Bush declared to eliminate taliban if after 20 yrs taliban are still present who lost then

  • @Bartlomierz
    @Bartlomierz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dziękujemy.

  • @jaimebendo5053
    @jaimebendo5053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    Joe biden: "Hold my beer!"

    • @eugenequek6797
      @eugenequek6797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      prob a tad too soon?

    • @medievalist8441
      @medievalist8441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably didn't watch the whole video

    • @shmshare3868
      @shmshare3868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      "Hold my .. Ah you know the thing"

    • @nicolaspinto76
      @nicolaspinto76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hold my withdrawl

    • @KonohasEdge
      @KonohasEdge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      George Bush: Hold my six pack.

  • @boejiden.1445
    @boejiden.1445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very good. Looking forward to this

  • @garlicfries85
    @garlicfries85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    As a soldier who was deployed in the kunar province of Afghanistan, I got nothing but respect for the people of that country. Tough as nails and completely undeserving of the constant invasions. Stealing their money as we retreated, while prolly leaving half our terps and local national allies behind, was extremely evil

  • @qwellen7521
    @qwellen7521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Inaccurate. Rambo killed all the Russians, and the mujahideen would always be a grateful ally.

    • @thegunner7942
      @thegunner7942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nah, then talibans killed rambo😆

    • @rainmanhart2809
      @rainmanhart2809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This comment is dedicated to the brave mujahideen fighters of afghanistan.

  • @Loewenphilosoph
    @Loewenphilosoph 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Every modern war video, I'm eagerly awaiting the moment the music at 13:00 starts playing. I don't want it is about this particular piece of music, but it really elevates the experience.

  • @uhohhr3tr054
    @uhohhr3tr054 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always. I'm curious what music is used for the outro? I heard it on a TH-cam video years ago and I've been looking for it ever since.

  • @TheLuckyaj
    @TheLuckyaj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Can you do a episode on Japan's involvement in the Great War? Like the Siege of Tsingtao

  • @workablefloods3465
    @workablefloods3465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Soviets : figting Afganistan over the mountains
    Americans : fighting Vietnam under the mountains

    • @sincitycapital
      @sincitycapital 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Texas has a larger GDP than Russia now and the Soviet union doesn't exist anymore. But yeah keep thinking the "soviets" are better and smarter

    • @jo-wv4lc
      @jo-wv4lc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sincitycapital yeah lost 2 trillion dollars and 3000+ America n soilders killed,then kill inocent civilian people .
      Usa is creator of isis Al-Qaida's Taliban PKK 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @URANOMNOM
      @URANOMNOM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@sincitycapital wow what a snowflake you are. Now show me on this doll where the evil communist hurt you

    • @barbiquearea
      @barbiquearea 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hence why for the Soviets, Afghanistan was considered their very own Vietnam.

    • @braxtonjones6163
      @braxtonjones6163 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reminder9146 The only former communist state that hasn’t failed is Vietnam.

  • @jisnudeepdas2961
    @jisnudeepdas2961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Please make a US version too! eagerly waiting for it.. 😄

    • @jo-wv4lc
      @jo-wv4lc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      2 trillion dollars 85 billion dollars weapons 🤣

    • @omp2088
      @omp2088 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @User Name You shouldnt start a pissing contest on this subject, not after the worst military decisions of the modern human

  • @kevinlinfishing
    @kevinlinfishing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video - keep up the great work!
    A quick question: did the mujahideen use suicide bombers and IEDs against the Soviets, or were these tactics developed afterwards?

    • @jalal3254
      @jalal3254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      mujahideen did not use suicide bombing because they were not terrorists like Isis, Al Qaeda and Taliban

    • @gofar5185
      @gofar5185 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      its real guerilla warfare... both sides are great... in the soviet time, codes of principles were recognized... no gun firing when muslims are praying... after soviets withdrawal, seemed all wars are american bombs drugs dollars... YET... the world still throw mud to the taliban and the soviets... sigh sigh...

    • @circleancopan7748
      @circleancopan7748 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Islamist factions used VBIEDs and SVBIEDs.
      The Mujahideen under Massoud didn't.

    • @driffbro3380
      @driffbro3380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@circleancopan7748 mujahideen were an Islamist faction. Don't you know what "Mujahideen" means?

  • @johannasperski9838
    @johannasperski9838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Gobechov: Here's how to not end a war
    Biden: Hold my beer

  • @megaskater815
    @megaskater815 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always!

  • @denniscleary7580
    @denniscleary7580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Charlie Wilson was definitely a big part of that on the covert CIA war

    • @shiva6908
      @shiva6908 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who was the big part in cowrdice retreat of America few weeks ago

    • @JM-fo1te
      @JM-fo1te 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shiva6908 cowardice? We made a lot of money practicing in Afghanistan.

    • @shiva6908
      @shiva6908 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JM-fo1te yes world saw, how you run away, hiding your wounded ass

    • @needsmetal
      @needsmetal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shiva6908 Still made billions off of Heroin, so it equals out

  • @j.dunlop8295
    @j.dunlop8295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier.
    Kipling, 4-5 wars ago, in Afghanistan!

    • @gofar5185
      @gofar5185 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      brutal honesty is what make rudyard kipling great...

  • @domxem5551
    @domxem5551 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great presentation. You deserve a 500 million subscribers

  • @lakshmibrandrice2198
    @lakshmibrandrice2198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Please do a documentary on the Congo conflicts of 20th century

    • @alswann2702
      @alswann2702 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thompson the Headless Machine Gunner and FAL the Right Hand of Freedom

  • @joegambitt7414
    @joegambitt7414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When you said 14.000 casualties I thought how weak and heavy was the war on the soviets, but then those 200.000 casualties wow that really shocked me, soviets were profesional indeed

    • @Oreocookie457
      @Oreocookie457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      No they werent. They were fighting farmers.

    • @olsiontoskaolsiontoska9370
      @olsiontoskaolsiontoska9370 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea but in guerrilla warfere body remember

    • @olsiontoskaolsiontoska9370
      @olsiontoskaolsiontoska9370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The usa army in Vietnam the same thing fight the farmers in guerrilla warfere when usa take 54000 casulties and vietkong 182000

    • @lape2002
      @lape2002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Oreocookie457 Jihadis

    • @omgwtf1126
      @omgwtf1126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      These farmers have my respect indeed.

  • @Aniqabbas
    @Aniqabbas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you always comes with real facts and history of past battles

  • @kojoLuh
    @kojoLuh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Interesting that in the current era of US hurried withdrawal from Afghanistan, your latest videos are focused on USSR/Soviet failure and withdrawal from the same country 🤔😀.

    • @Catonius
      @Catonius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's almost as if they planned it that way... weird.

    • @Veritas.0
      @Veritas.0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, if you think a TH-cam History channel covering an Historic event instead of a current event is... 'interesting'.
      I find it normal and expected.
      But then you're impotently angry inside... and I... am not. 😀

    • @Catonius
      @Catonius 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Diya Roy I meant the video

    • @tengkualiff
      @tengkualiff 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not enough info to work with

    • @vinslungur
      @vinslungur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's too soon to document the US withdrawal. Also you can learn a lot about that from how the Soviets fared. It's not a conspiracy you tinfoil wearing bastards.

  • @atifimushtaq2139
    @atifimushtaq2139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Pround to be from panjshir and we love our freedom ❤❤

    • @zuzudernegger9721
      @zuzudernegger9721 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you enjoying you're freedom in Panjshir right now or in some infidel, liberal, democratic Western society?

    • @atifimushtaq2139
      @atifimushtaq2139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zuzudernegger9721 hahaha Lets answer the 1st part of your comment One panjshir has not fallen to Taliban the taliban are only in the High way of the panjshir valley and they only might to do that by getting help from the Overlord Pakistan IsI Because the taliban are salves of isi And now I'm going to answer the 2nd part of your comment The Soviet Union try to capture panjshir six time with major Military power They were dropping 3 ton Of bomb an hour on panjshir only from air alone the come with 40000 soldiers and tank to panjshir six times and they failed You actually believe that that the taliban will conquer panjshir its a joke after this year winter we will recapture most of north afghanistan Soon
      At least the people of panjshir Fight for freedom And are not slave of Any foreign power like the taliban we fight for Every tribe in Afghanistan
      Since you are a proud of the taliban And hate the infidel could you please answer why are the taliban asking infidel to help them and Recognize Them
      We live with our head high and fight for our conutry and our people long live panjshir and the people of afghanistan 🇦🇫

    • @صليعليالنبي-و6غ
      @صليعليالنبي-و6غ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@atifimushtaq2139 Oops your comment didn’t age well.

    • @atifimushtaq2139
      @atifimushtaq2139 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@صليعليالنبي-و6غ yes it did

    • @صليعليالنبي-و6غ
      @صليعليالنبي-و6غ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@atifimushtaq2139 Well the part where you mentioned that the Tbns will be pushed back. As far as I know they took Panjsher, and found themselves a bounty of 400 tanks, fighter jets, Helis and abundant ammunition.

  • @shakilahmedawan1538
    @shakilahmedawan1538 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good effort. Good job done.

  • @brooklynduro
    @brooklynduro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    When you say “training schools” in 4:40, do you mean the CIA?

    • @Oreocookie457
      @Oreocookie457 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are several religious schools which were first set up by Mughals, and Safavids, known as Makatib (plural) in 1600s. They were the centers of all insurgencies from 1800s till 1900, and again from1980s onwards. Difference between both groups is that the earlier ones were anti-colonial and these are terrorists. These were used by the gorillas to indocrinate and recruit students throughout 80s uptil Y2k. The last major incident was that of Lal Masjid incident, which involved Makatib. They were like cancer for Pakistan, because, they also started supplying Terrorists, and Pakistan lost virtually all control of its frontier province. My mom's best friend and her kids died in one such attack.

    • @christianyepez1016
      @christianyepez1016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The CIA was definitely involved, both directly and indirectly

  • @NoMoreCrumbs
    @NoMoreCrumbs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Leaving out Operation Cyclone and the US involvement in arming, training, and funding the Mujahideen is a little troubling, historically

  • @TheEspada33
    @TheEspada33 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your Chanel keep up the great work

  • @daveanderson3805
    @daveanderson3805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The Americans created a monster and afterwards were surprised and confused when it grew beyond their control and turned on them

  • @alexp5461
    @alexp5461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Perfect timing, isn't it?

    • @zt3gaming796
      @zt3gaming796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I hope he covers the liberation of Panjshir this year too by the Taliban

    • @DoctorDeath147
      @DoctorDeath147 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zt3gaming796
      Soon: Taliban liberation of the galaxy

    • @voidwalker9223
      @voidwalker9223 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Uh no I’m sure this video was made because of Americans left Afghan.

    • @rainmanhart2809
      @rainmanhart2809 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zt3gaming796 the talichads would be proud.

  • @ric6383
    @ric6383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks. Even as a teenager I thought it strange the whole way the Soviet invasion was reported, as if the tribal Afghans cared a hoot about our style of government. Pretty sure I remember seeing a Kings and Generals on the British Afghan Wars. At least we got out after a couple of years and left the squabbling Afghans to carry on with their incessant tribal rivalries.

  • @FBAagent
    @FBAagent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I believe that true strategists like Sun Tzu would deliver a fight without a battle. In this case, probably attacking the economic resource of the insurgents would be more efficient than military expeditions. Capturing their opium fields or other money-generating traffic would be far more effective from my point of view.

    • @henrikibjensen3869
      @henrikibjensen3869 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, I think that is like capturing the mex poppy fields, war on drugs in Colombia. Very effective they are.

  • @VajrahahaShunyata
    @VajrahahaShunyata 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No mention of the stinger and its game changing effect?

  • @waverlh
    @waverlh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow. Great content. I'd love to see an update in about 5 years after the US withdrawal. Unfortunately, I doubt much will have changed.

  • @Thunderstar7
    @Thunderstar7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am like a crack addict for these videos, you guys are amazing

  • @sfjuhispst8144
    @sfjuhispst8144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "During these early phases, the soviet troops engaged in looting." Some people never learn huh

  • @zacsamuel7295
    @zacsamuel7295 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are the best war channel without equal

  • @mayankbisht7691
    @mayankbisht7691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    First Hikma History now Kings and Generals seems like Afganistan's history is going to be a trendy topic

    • @saahiliyer11
      @saahiliyer11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      History repeats itself, first as tragedy, then as farce.

  • @darthsidious6753
    @darthsidious6753 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Afghanistan simply wasn't the most important place in the world to the Soviets.

    • @quran1012
      @quran1012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really. Soviets tried really hard to make afganistan in their image not very different from the americans. They killed over a 1 million people. Still couldnt pacify the place.

    • @mohammadbinmahbub9160
      @mohammadbinmahbub9160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      important enough for Russia to stick around for 20 years until its economy bled and the state collapsed

    • @mohammadbinmahbub9160
      @mohammadbinmahbub9160 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      important enough for Russia to stick around for 20 years until its economy bled and the state collapsed

    • @emam_speeches
      @emam_speeches 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah they tried thier best but in the end USSR broke 😅

  • @Matt-rw1qn
    @Matt-rw1qn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool video. Thanks

  • @cdcdrr
    @cdcdrr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Russia: [can't establish a friendly regime in Afghanistan]
    America: [can't establish a friendly regime in Afghanistan]
    China: My turn, my turn!
    Pakistan: Back off, it's our turf!

    • @steevan
      @steevan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      China be like : eh wanna trade ?

    • @grimgoreironhide9985
      @grimgoreironhide9985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Pakistan is vassal state of China now.

    • @LiquidBangash
      @LiquidBangash 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@grimgoreironhide9985 according to who?

    • @steevan
      @steevan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Taliban to china : wanna invest ?

    • @grimgoreironhide9985
      @grimgoreironhide9985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LiquidBangash According to everyone. Pakistan's government kisses China's ass because need money.

  • @Someone-ct2ck
    @Someone-ct2ck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The interesting thing is that the US Supported Afghanistan and they had no problem with them until they figured out that they need to have problems with them.

    • @ElVaquero19
      @ElVaquero19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That is so dumb and childish
      You could say the same about anything
      China left Hong Kong alone for years, until they didn't

    • @justinlabrosse8506
      @justinlabrosse8506 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElVaquero19 they didnt have hong kong till 1997 lol

    • @voidwalker9223
      @voidwalker9223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because the Taliban rose up funded by Pakistan. After Taliban started taking over country in Afghan civil war killing off US allies then Afghanistan became a problem. Has nothing to do with US having problems with Afghan people.
      This is the problem with social media. No one knows history and just has ignorant opinions.

    • @vomErsten
      @vomErsten 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justinlabrosse8506 And then they left Hong Kong mostly alone for 22 years...until they didn't when it became apparent they wouldn't be able to quietly subjugate the city through legislative subversion.

  • @Samsun55
    @Samsun55 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes!! That's what i was waiting for quite a time.

  • @dranzergigs8333
    @dranzergigs8333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The tagline was how not to end the war. After looking at how US and NATO left I can say this is the way to end a war.