NFL Insider Tom Pelissero on Penix Draft Impact on Cousins’ Falcons Future | The Rich Eisen Show
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- NFL Insider Tom Pelissero and Rich Eisen discuss the repercussions of the Atlanta Falcons drafting Michael Penix Jr. after signing Kirk Cousins.
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They act as if the superbowl is exclusively won by quarterbacks on rookie deals.
they also act as though franchise qbs grow on trees. if you think hes your guy and you dont have a long term answer, you take him, no questions asked
I can't keep listening to these idiots. "If they trade Kirk after one year they are going to bit hit with dead cap." THEY AREN'T TRADING HIM AFTER ONE YEAR AND NO ONE HAS INDICATED THAT.
Right! Man I can't listen to Rich on this subject
The jets wish they had done that last year
Great point
Exactly and had they done it the gm would be considered a genuis yet our gm made such a huge so called blunder 🙄 gtfoh
Tom looks like Rick Astley from the 1980's pop MTV era. Never Gonna Give you UP!!! Forever and ever!!!
Word lol
At this point even after the Falcons own QB came out in support of the move and its consistently being explained, the truth is Rich understand it he just want to bleed this topic as much as possible. Thats all
Sports media: We constantly ruin these kids by throwing them out at the quarterback position before they’re ready.
Sports media: how could they take these kids and put them behind solid starters for a year or two to learn!?
You’re better than that. With love from Bayonne.
Rich needs to with the handy for Cousins. He's getting 100 million over 2 years. Just stop for the love of God
Well normally you sit the rookie behind your franchise QB you’re about to replace. You don’t go get both the same year then you’re just wasting money. You want to rookie to sit at the end of the Vet’s contract so you arnt doubling up.
Also for Penix specifically he is a lot older than the other rookies. He is 24 league average is 21-22 years old for a rookie QB. So sitting him is a lot more of a gamble due to age. Just all and all a very weird not normal situation.
@@mynumberoneguy2125 are the Falcons dumb for paying $60mm this year and wrapping up $30mm next year?
Yes.
Are they doing a good thing by having an almost pro ready backup behind an older coming off injury qb (that they paid way too much money for).
Also yes.
@chrishoj5277 I agree with what the Falcons did. Rich needs to worry about the Jets fiasco coming up this season and basketball in the after glow of his alma mater tainted title
Oh my god Rich, enough with Penix and Cousins already.... it's been covered 100 times over
So would you rather have kirk cousins? Or Sam darnold or brissett? What's the difference with the ATL situation versus the MIN and NE? The difference is that ATL has a legit top 10 qb while their prospect develops. Not a journeyman qb.
They are throwing away the massive salary cap benefit of drafting a top prospective rookie QB by spending all of their savings on Kirk Cousins. If they think that highly of Penix they should have gotten a much cheaper backup like Minshew, Fields, etc.
Also he will disgruntled bc he was deceived and misled
I would rather have 1 year of Darnold for 10 million with a 1st round rookie than Cousins for 100m guaranteed over 2 years and a 1st round rookie.
@@nathanthompson8666 dumbest thing they couldve done is signed minshew with all that rookie talent on offense. whos the one wasting london, bijan, and pitts rookie deals by signing minshew now?
@@lavs8696 Minshew-type QB would have been a great bridge for Penix. Penix prolly could have beaten them out for the starter role by a quarter-way through the season. If they didn’t think he was capable of that, then they definitely should not have drafted him with #8
One question I haven’t really heard being asked - is Kirk Cousins actually ready for week 1?
I'm going to buy Rich a tissue because he definitely has an issue 😅
I hope nobody from the Falcons goes on this show.. Rich is determined to Misunderstand the Falcons.. As if having two good QBs is a bad thing…
I dont get how people still complain about that draft pick. Im a Vikings' fan and dont think this is a bad draft pick. What if Kirk gets injured early in the season? Not like if it didnt happen. I just feel very vad for Kirk that gets to a new team and already gets screwed in some way. The Falcons dont have the same culture as the VIkings and I feel bad for him.
Why so negative? What if Kirk cousins take them to a Super Bowl?
But it all works out if pennix comes into his own in year 2. Then the expensive first year becomea irrelevant.
No bc they still made a 100 million mistake
Pennix wasn’t the mistake
Paying cousins was bc you should have known who you want in the draft
This fool acting as if rookie qbs are actually good. With the exception of a rare few rookie qbs are average at best.
It always takes Rich forever to ask the actual question!!
Could it have been a DEI pick? Black GM, Black coach…so pick the best available Black QB?
Yeah - but we blocked the Aints from getting Penix too. Boom. Worth it
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Damn Ritch let it go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If it was the viking with kirk u would of said great pick for the future of their organization!! How many rookies have won on a rookie contract ??? Remember when the draft class with Trevor , Zack Wilson, Trey Lance , Mack jones, Justin fields, their all Backup Now except Trevor Lawrence! How many Cj strouds come into the league and succeed the first season !!! Let it go Ritch stop throwing these kids to the Sharks destroying their confidence and careers because of a rookie contracts , remember when rookie contacts in the 1st round was Much more (JaMarcus Russell era ) so penix is a Actual value these days!!
How do you go from “if you think you’ve found your qb of the future then you move heaven and earth to get him” to Rich and everyone else thinking they have to be the one to solve the mystery of wanting to make sure you have a QB?
Really Rich is hard to understand what is hard to understand is why the Jets don’t draft a qb this year
Cousins fa move responds to the following.
2017
81
Rookie contract WR. Rb. Te. Of unknown quality.
Penix draft is a similar qb to cousin undeveloped.
Cousins maybe out by year 3.
And responds to 68 and 66.
Relevancy is as important as anything in the NFL.
ATL cost. In comparison to other teams is low cost when looking at the room.
Atlanta could have drafted odunze, who most likely will be a star, they could have traded down and gotten multiple stud defensive players even the two best corners in the draft. Could have helped so much but instead got someone who maybe 3 or 4 years down the road might play well and help a totally different team.
@@gsp3428 agreed and this is just a few reasons it's so bad and the penix pick is such a historicaly braindead pick there is literally no way to justify it not even if it works out some how or they end up winning they still missed a perfect chance to grab multiple potential star players to help the team , even after the #8 pick they missed the cbs,djean,Murphy, the list goes on and on per rnd unbelievable
@@LovelyRobotFigurine-lr5puHistorically braindead? Its not like we gave up our entire draft for Herschel Walker or Ricky Williams
Exactly just made a (Historicaly)Braindead Pick , never mentioned giving up anything not the topic or point etc your right those teams gave up way to much in those TRADES for those drafts
Cousins to Jest in a year. Book it.
I can't take it no more myself either these are some damn idiots if that was another team they will not be about that
So the rams and 49ers throw away picks left and right but that’s find.
Rich for you to be as smart as you are I don't get why this is so illogical or hard for you to accept. They went against the grain and I commend them for it. Why do you guys want teams to do everything you guys think they'll do?
If the Jets would have drafted a QB their season probably would have been better!!
the falcons are in 2012 seattle not a 2020 green bay
OMG! Let it Go, Rich. You are stuck on Penix/Cousins like you were Michigan cheating scandal.
This aint no resource league, its "what have you done for me lately" league. WINS. Morris has been a head coach before with a bad qb. Dont matter if you are "rebuilding" we have seen coaches get fired after 1 season. Division not the best, they could literally get to the playoffs then hand the baton off to Penix if he shows he is that guy. Should they have paid Kirk all that money? No. But the playoffs will make you forget all of this. He is also 36 coming off achilles.
Every year Josh Allen’s contract looks better and better.
I bet rich wished that the jets did this exact same thing last year with arod going down in week 1 of the season.the draft been over almost a month and he still talking about it😂
Gee....Why haven't the Falcons made the playoffs in 7 yrs?.... Stupidity like this
Falcons have had some poor cap situations and poor coaching. Hopefully both are improved this year. We have been a historically reactive instead of proactive team, which has been our folly.
The Penix pick is both reactive to the post Matt Ryan QB vaccuum and proactive to the potential decline/end of Kirk's tenure.
Mahomes is drastically underpaid, and Deshaun Watson is the most overpaid, that guy has barely been on the field and when he has he hasnt been good, not even mediocre.
just let it g Rich... SMH
We will talk about this pick for decades to come if Penix becomes a top 5 QB for the next 10+yrs. We will also talk about it for years to come if he doesn't or if Kirk plays OK this season.
This is a win now league, and the Failclowns looked at everyone in the building, and the league, and point blank said "We are punting this season." Crazy, just crazy.
Tray Lance cost SF three (3) 1st round picks (and their 3rd overall) but Penix burns just one 1st rounder to cheaply play behind a gimpy 35+ year old who is not expected to take the #1 reps in practice, and gets valuable experience. Yet, SF burns 3 1sts on Tray Lance who had little college experience and only eye brows are raised? In contrast; invest a single pick in a great QB prospect and go bat crap crazy! The protect the cap/owner's money for a team not one player away from the Superbowl us ABSURD!
You never know how far a team is away, they could easily be one player away with the addition of Cousins, some teams completely change from year to year. They wasted a top 10 pick on a bench warmer for the next few years most likely or they threw away 100 million of Blanks money in the garbage.
Right! Since atl did this it’s a polarizing issue let’s not forget San Fran WASTED 3 first round picks but he isn’t shocked there. It’s just something to Jab Atlanta about.
Pennix is a good pick
The damage will be done by the cousins signing
That’s the point
They should not have done that
Justin fields
Baker
Minshew
Darnold
All bridge qbs for much less
Much younger
No Achilles injury
This was done with disregard for the cap
That’s why it’s so foolish
I hear you if it’s a good pick it’s a good pick. The cap is subjective it’s a choice to take advantage of rookie deals, great if you can but it’s not a guarantee in anything. Drafting A defensive player isn’t a guarantee, literally atl was in Cap hell for 3 yrs and was competitive … there isn’t a formula there are experts saying What they would do but we don’t know. Listen They got their future and present, but the “ideal “ Way but this how they want to play it .. If they win. I don’t wanna hear nothing. If they lose .. they been losing lol. It’s the constant criticizing for me. Let these ppl live lol
lol blah blah blah…if you’re winning it doesn’t matter
I think the Falcons lost confidence in Cousins between signing him and the draft.
Cousins passes are wobbling in otas currently we made the right decision
I thought we had done the worst qb trade even here in Denver but Atlanta is making me feel better about the Russ debacle.
Why ?? They got a veteran pro bowl QB and a 1st round Backup, plus yall gave Russell 230 million Guaranteed with no backup worthy QB , falcons only paying Kirk 100 million Guaranteed, u should still feel bad as a Broncos fans with that cap hit still paying Russell 😴 🤔 😂
We didnt give up two 1sts for Cousins and won't have an 80 mill cap hit if we drop/trade him next offseason.
And I bet anything Cousins looks vastly better in yet another McVay disciple's offense than Russ did in Hackett/Peyton's offenses.
That L is yours and yours alone.
They are chosing to be stupid at this point. 😂😂
Falcons 2024 season about to be a complete dumpster fire.
Honestly, I bet they win the NFC south
Travesty at its finest.
@Gman333gof course you did 🤣
As always especially since they hired fontenot yet another draft failure, anyone could hv picked bjan , London, pitts way to easy all but a few of his picks are garbage