Thanks to those that pointed out we have our billions and millions mixed up at 4:18! Correction: In a 2021 Forbes list of the world’s most valuable clubs, no Italian side featured in the top-ten and Juventus, ranked 11th, were the only one to have a valuation in excess of $1bn. Even AC Milan ($559m) and Roma ($548m), one a multiple Champions League winner, the other a regular participant, were sandwiched between Everton ($658m) and West Ham ($508m).
I worked on the diligence for The Friedkin Group on the Roma acquisition; it was by far the most interesting and crazy project I ever worked on. There were fans with phones following us everywhere, loitering outside the hotel, getting tips off hotel staff as to where we were eating, and it even developed into a TV camera loitering outside the Roma offices towards the end of our stay. The fans are passionate and the club has so much potential, it’s been nice to see their improvement since those days (right before the pandemic began).
🤣🤣🤣 Low risk high return... Seems you didnt understand anything about italian football. By the way, source of the data present are was the father of video maker... Premier league 3b, serie a 1.7b, la liga 1.4b, Bundesliga 1.1b......farrrrrr different from what was stated
Atalanta sassuolo and udinese own their stadiums too btw, it's strange that a channel like yours missed that particular considering that they've been owning their stadiums since the mid 2010's
@@sokrates6737 technically it's not sassuolo itself that owns the stadium but MAPEI( the company that owns sassuolo) does, funnily enough reggiana was the first italian team to own its own stadium when in 1994 they built the giglio stadium, reggiana went broke and that stadium was later bought by MAPEI and it's now the stadium where both reggiana and sassuolo play
Whenever Americans make investment there is some serious analysis involved about opportunities of growth. It's limited to making money though so don't go expecting they will spend tons of money to win you the league Americans are there to make money, period!
For a football team to make money it has to be successful and to be successful it has to win, so fans can still be happy. Moreover Americans are competitive and don’t think they’ll be happy to have their team just stably in mid table.
@@Timy-dr6uo for us Liverpool fans it's even worse, although we still got a world class squad, 2-3 key injuries and we will be saying ''top4 it is'' bc at that point you can forget the league or CL. hopefully FSG atleast spend a few thousand on a witch from romania to make some witchcraft to prevent injuries.
When I was a kid in the 90s the serie A was the big league and no one cares about the Spanish league and the English league was sort of laughed at in terms of football style. Now it’s all changed!
exactly that's why when people are out here calling this or that league farmer leagues cuz they wanna feel superior I see them as pathetic, you never know what the future holds
As usual, such a wonderful video from Tifo Football. I look forward to seeing more videos about Serie A here, esp history-related videos of the Serie A clubs.
As a fan of Italian football, who grew up watching the great years on late 90's and early 2000's, with the Berlusconi, Agnelli, Moratti, and Sensi family around, I miss the eccentricity of the league. That being said, it was very necessary step, as it was no longer sustainable anymore for these families ⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽
also because of sheer population size, theres an opportunity here because of simply how big and diverse the country is in its population and demographics.
3:19 "Juventus are actually the only club to own their stadium" Nope. Stadio Citta di Tricolore, owned by MAPEI, who owns U.S. Sassuolo, since 2013 Stadio Friuli, owned by Udinese Calcio since 2016 Stadio Atleti Azzuri d'Italia, owned by Atalanta B.C. since 2017
Commisso looking to sell is a bit of a stretch. Not only has Viola Park (training ground/youth facility) been approved, construction has already begun. The stadium is proving to be more difficult but it's almost a certainty that it will be built just not at the location Commisso wanted.
Do you have any sources about that last part about the stadium getting built just at different location? I’m very curious. Not too well versed with this topic, but isnt there some sort of board in Italy that will meet in October that can end up being decisive in moving these projects along?
From today exactly, Genoa too. Anyway, you got it totally wrong on Fiorentina. Commisso isn't selling at all and he could be frustrated about the stadium, not the sporting centre, the Viola Park, that's currently in development.
To what degree does the Italian bureaucracy create unnecessary hurdles for stadium building or renovation? Seems like many owners (not just Americans) commit to building new facilities for their respective clubs, but often meet heavy resistance which inevitably leads to a loss in revenue and damages their relationship with fans. You'd think that, given how beautiful Italy is as a country, they could find ways to make this work without sacrificing any natural/historic views.
MLS is a racket/ ponzi scheme. To think that league has that many teams. Italy is not lke American sports where teams threaten to leave if the TAXPAYERS don't build Billionaire owners a stadium or Arena. Also, stadiums in Italy are there for football. Not the private boxes, food and drink, Half Time show, the Phillie Phantic. Most stadiums are owned by the municipality. This is why many of them have running tracks because they are mult-purpose. Juve kickstarted the idea (in italy, anyways) of owning your own stadium. I do hope other teams in Italy follow suit.
@@CrociatoAzzurro wow, you criticize American sports teams for using taxpayer funds to help build their stadiums, then admit that most stadiums in Italy are owned by municipalities i.e. PAID FOR BY THE TAXPAYER 😂. "Stadiums in Italy are there for football, not [other stuff related to the match]" then next line "many of them [Italian stadiums] have running tracks because they are multi-purpose." Then hope other teams in Italy follow suit in owning their own stadium... just like the American sports teams do. Have you actually thought about your position before you typed about it? 😂😂 You contradicted yourself on every point you made.
@@jsquared1013 It's all about the stadium. Results mean nothing. Case in Point: - Milan AC is known the world over. 7 times European Champions, in their hey day the most feared team around. Value: approximately $750M. - Texas Rangers of MLB, a true laughing stock, never won a World Series, usually a bad team in a bad Division. Worth: over 2 Billion. Because they get new stadiums built for them every 2-3 decades.
@@CrociatoAzzurro Not a valid comparison. You can't really influence team results in american sports by being rich. You can't make any major impact. Admittedly idk much about mlb but following the NHL you'll see that the richest teams haven't won a title for years like the maple leaves and New York Rangers whereas the Vegas Golden Knights have won more recently. I don't see how it's a Ponzi scheme still. American leagues are much more competitive as a result and not decided by rich teams.
@@CrociatoAzzurroWho do you think you are talking about the Phillie Phanatic like that? What do you think gives you the license to disparage a mascot which is in the Baseball Hall of Fame, one of only three to be in the HoF. You’ve just declared war on all of the Philadelphia metro area, since the Phillie Phanatic is essentially god in this area, something that all Phillies fans have loved for 45 or so years
Itallian clubs are undervallued assets, certainly makes for a good investment. With new money being injected along with new approaches the league might yet recover its glories.
As a Milan fan I can confirm that building a stadium is near impossible here in Italy. Living in Milan both Inter and Milan have suffered from trash owners in recent year and it's clear that both the owner of Milan and Inter are waiting to sell the clubs. Inter owner, which is Suning company, has lost a lot of value and lost so much money that they had to let go of their best assets last summer: Conte, Lukaku and Hakimi. Milan will host the 2026 olympics and both clubs hope that the new stadium will be built by then but in a few weeks there is the mayor election that is using this topic to get votes; many people don't want the destroyment of San Siro, which is arguably a top 5 football stadium in the world, but both clubs want a new one because the revenue are so low compared to the Juventus stadium (100 millions vs 35). By the end of the year the construction of the new stadium will be starting hopefully
I now can't watch a normal Tifo video without waiting for Joe to shout a random word or phrase into a 2nd camera before going off on a mad tangent 😂😂😂😭 Tifo IRL has ruined the "Professional Joe persona" for me haha
All this large scale corporate investments is not going to be good for the clubs. These people know nothing about football or indeed care about it. Leagues should emulate the Bundesliga model of 50+1 where the fans have ownership of the club.
@@samizayn5666 one of the main reasons the league is dominated by bayern because other leagues accept foreign investment and have way more money than bundesliga clubs. Any time a team other than bayern gets a good player the epl comes knocking, if all leagues were like the bundesliga the Bundesliga teams other than bayern would have a chance and can mount a challenge
@@n3rd25 true. Look at Bvb. Sancho,Dembele and next will probably be Haaland and Jude. Btw when was the last time a Bundesliga club (excluding Bayern) bought a star from Epl,La Liga or Serie A.
If you look back in football history, the Italian national team always triumph in international tournaments when their clubs are struggling in Europe. It is the complete opposite for the English national team and their dominant clubs.. Ha!
I'm sorry but you lot at AC have the worst possible owner. He is the worst person in terms of squeezing money out of something without regard for how it will impact the company.
American investment in premier leauge clubs has shown little return in terms of titles. Hopefully Italian club will have enough investment to make a mark on europe. Clubs bought by hedge funds have little hope.
Americans understand how to make money from sports entertainment - there is limited value in the premier league or championship these days with too much competitive risk from other clubs. Therefore putting the possibility of success at risk. Italy 🇮🇹 has 4 CL places meaning the chance of returns is better
It’s not so much that these guys want to profit massively, they just won’t tolerate heavy losses. Owning a sports team is not a very efficient way to earn money when you have their level of wealth.
The inflated market elsewhere does not necessarily means quality at large. It is more about having depth in the bench to facs the many dsmanding matches in the season. That is what hurts italian clubs facing an i ability to compete with inflated markets. Hope Milan under a low budget will become great again while re evaluing itself with great players like Theo, Tonali, Calabria, Brahim, Tomori, Leaõ among other prospects. Too bad Donnarumma left for free and hope he will regret it not winning anything at PSG while being benched
You explain it very well, serie A is a top league clubs are known world wide and their cost is relatively cheap...to buy Roma at 70 millions euro is an incredible bargain. Many of Americans buyers are of Italian descent so there's clearly an attachment to their heritage there...However as you explained it Italy is not USA or Canada or even The UK.. Calcio is deep rooted in their culture but Italians are a old society which doesn't like to change quickly. Racism, match fixing, very old stadium etc...that league have many problems which the same Italian authorities are very reluctant to address because it has always been part of calcio according to them...Since their world cup at home only Juventus have a brand new stadium, no other clubs even renovated their. . which is shocking for anybody but not Italian authorities. The truth is if these owners failed to modernize serie a they probably will leave fast as they came.
The football in serie a is masterclass. The atmosphere not so much. More than half the clubs in the league play in terrible stadiums. And the clubs trying to renovate or build new ones are obstructed by the huge bureaucracy in Italy. It's a shame.
I say this for years infrastructure, to going with the time, is the real problem of the Serie A, based on the football played, it has great quality, it is changing, is going more towards attacking football, and the last European title, with the National team, is showing this, this can give an extra boost to the Serie A, when you watch the games more goals, to less defensive play, more like everyone want to play like Atalanta style, in short the first that make a Stadium in the Serie A, not talking about Juventus, but the most difficult teams, it can break the ice.
Commisso will never sell fiorentina he likes the city the club the fans he still alot to offer its not a over night job it will take time and serie a will see good times ahead of them
It's not been a runaway success certainly. The American owners at Roma and Milan invest nowhere enough to be able to compete with Inter for example. No progress on stadium projects either, just announcements without time frame. Across Europe Liverpool are possibly the best-run among the US-owned clubs while Man Utd and Arsenal have flopped dramatically under American owners. Even there FSG is not quite willing to invest as much as Abu Dhabi or Abramovich do.
Scotland's got the same with American owners, buying clubs due to ancestors from Scotland and importing American commercial ideas. 6 of whom are now looking to expand the income of the league as a whole. A video about this would be cool
If someone like Kyle Krause bought Parma whom is in Serie B, means he come with serious commitment and I think it will bear results in the near future. If Dan Friedkin can persuade JM to manage Roma, the rest of American owners also can do the same to persuade top Coach to come to Serie A. My tip: Fiorentina could following Milan & Roma as football club in terms of brand development and this season they also play attractive football. For neutral fans, you all would love to watch Fiorentina outside Atalanta.
Fiorentina is soooo much like Milan a year ago, A perfect mix of talent and experience, An owner who wishes to take the club back to where they belong and brilliant youngsters. Same goes for Roma. Seven sisters are finally Back!!
Details about Fiorentina are wrong on this video. Stadium will be built under the American burst a different location and new training and youth facilities have already were passed and work has begun.
I dont think Italian football clubs will ever have the same international appeal as other less prestigious clubs because they speak Italian. It sucks but unless your team operates in the English language you really do limit your target market in the internet age.
Let's put it this way: The biggest market for these European Clubs is Asia (apart from Europe of course). Asia thrives in economics and almost all Asian countries adopted English as their 2nd language. And that goes without saying the EPL is by far the most popular leagues in this continent, it's not even close as compared to other leagues. It's crazy to think that even small clubs like Wolves, Leicester, Leeds, etc has fans here!
@@blues05 As a person living in Asia, I agree...you are spot-on. But at the same time, it can't be denied that Real and Barca also have quite a large fan base here
There are few american owners in serie b serie c too That they didnt say in this video Pisa ( serie b actually first) And catania ( serie c used to be' always in serie a ) And Padova ( serie c)
It’s a trend that’s going to save clubs from going downhill financially. This has been going on PRIOR to the glazers and you know that. You can’t admit that without investors, your club is not finically self sustainable. Think about it, look at the lower English leagues, they are running out of money.
They are investing in football clubs just to make money.Its just another business/investment for them.They dont care about the history,city or fans.They just want to make their pockets bigger and fuller.SerieA championship clubs and big clubs of PL.Its sad to see all this.With more American influence on football the more our beautiful game loses its beauty.Wanting a super league,frequent international tournaments,having a salary cap and other american sports related bs.Absolutely hate this.
That's why in Germany they have the 50 plus 1 rule where the fans are the majority owners of football clubs which stops foreign investors taking over their club. As you say when Americans buy a football club that has existed for over 100 years, all they care about is making money and turning the football club into a franchise
AS Roma has been trying to build a stadium for about 10 years. The problem in Italy and Serie A is their politics/politicians and poor league management led by figures whose ideas and methods are best described as obsolete
because they're cheaper to buy than English or Spanish clubs. They can't buy German clubs because of their ownership rules. French clubs are also cheap but not as much upside as Italian clubs either. Low risk, high reward gamble. If it doesn't work out, just sell it. They have billions either way.
Well, that’s because the reality is that clubs cannot financially save themselves. They are not financially self sustainable. Why do you think Italian club owners sell it to Americans investors, why is that? Because times have changed. Look at the English lower leagues, these clubs need the money but the money is lacking. Times has changed. You need to globalize your brand or else your club will run out of money to spend. The only thing that’s saving these clubs is an investor whether you like it or not.
Americans buying football clubs is awful. They wanna remake it into a franchise model asap if you gonna give them an inch, and they have no idea what football means for Europeans.
American ownership = no passion for the game. You will see your club fall off slowly because priorities are elsewhere with their money and club history won’t mean anything to the new ownership. These people don’t care about the fans just reel in the money.
Thanks to those that pointed out we have our billions and millions mixed up at 4:18!
Correction: In a 2021 Forbes list of the world’s most valuable clubs, no Italian side featured in the top-ten and Juventus, ranked 11th, were the only one to have a valuation in excess of $1bn. Even AC Milan ($559m) and Roma ($548m), one a multiple Champions League winner, the other a regular participant, were sandwiched between Everton ($658m) and West Ham ($508m).
Have you gotten any help with the skeleton, Joe?
I appreciate you pointing out the error as well. You guys are good.
Hate to be that guy, but at 0:24, too, 7/20 is actually more than a third. I think that gets across the prevalence of American owners a bit better.
@M D If they are good for bees, they are good for us
Hello Tifo, I would love to see a video on why the premier league has very few Italian players. This has always confused me!
I worked on the diligence for The Friedkin Group on the Roma acquisition; it was by far the most interesting and crazy project I ever worked on. There were fans with phones following us everywhere, loitering outside the hotel, getting tips off hotel staff as to where we were eating, and it even developed into a TV camera loitering outside the Roma offices towards the end of our stay. The fans are passionate and the club has so much potential, it’s been nice to see their improvement since those days (right before the pandemic began).
Is your company hiring? Looking for something new for sure
Dude. Do you have internship? Unpaid is fine.
Jokes aside. How did you project the future income for Rome? Is hiring Jose part of the strategy?
@@HaiLeQuang will gladly work on a lower salary bro hahahahaa finding something new so why not shoot my shot here 🤣
@@HaiLeQuang I think Mourinho said in an interview. "Very excited to work with the owners who are planning for a very ambitious project"
@@Doggomorph "Hey,where did you get the new guy?" "In a comment about a football video"
I want everyone to look at the TV ratings across European leagues that has a CL spot.
I can understand why Italian clubs are low risk, high returns.
🤣🤣🤣 Low risk high return... Seems you didnt understand anything about italian football. By the way, source of the data present are was the father of video maker... Premier league 3b, serie a 1.7b, la liga 1.4b, Bundesliga 1.1b......farrrrrr different from what was stated
Atalanta sassuolo and udinese own their stadiums too btw, it's strange that a channel like yours missed that particular considering that they've been owning their stadiums since the mid 2010's
Sassiolo own their stadium? That’s a surprise to me as it’s actually in Reggio Emilia, not Sassuolo, and Reggiana also play there
@@sokrates6737 technically it's not sassuolo itself that owns the stadium but MAPEI( the company that owns sassuolo) does, funnily enough reggiana was the first italian team to own its own stadium when in 1994 they built the giglio stadium, reggiana went broke and that stadium was later bought by MAPEI and it's now the stadium where both reggiana and sassuolo play
Lies again? American Education Gangbang Gangster
Whenever Americans make investment there is some serious analysis involved about opportunities of growth. It's limited to making money though so don't go expecting they will spend tons of money to win you the league Americans are there to make money, period!
For a football team to make money it has to be successful and to be successful it has to win, so fans can still be happy. Moreover Americans are competitive and don’t think they’ll be happy to have their team just stably in mid table.
As a United fan who's club is owned by an American I can testify
@@Timy-dr6uo for us Liverpool fans it's even worse, although we still got a world class squad, 2-3 key injuries and we will be saying ''top4 it is'' bc at that point you can forget the league or CL.
hopefully FSG atleast spend a few thousand on a witch from romania to make some witchcraft to prevent injuries.
@@mitt5163 Tell that to arsenal and manchester united fans.
This is literally the cause for all owners who aren’t arab or Russian tbh
And just a few hours ago was announced that Genoa, the first funded football team in Italy, has been sold to Americans as well.
What’s going to happen to the cricket team?!?!?!?
When I was a kid in the 90s the serie A was the big league and no one cares about the Spanish league and the English league was sort of laughed at in terms of football style. Now it’s all changed!
exactly that's why when people are out here calling this or that league farmer leagues cuz they wanna feel superior I see them as pathetic, you never know what the future holds
As usual, such a wonderful video from Tifo Football. I look forward to seeing more videos about Serie A here, esp history-related videos of the Serie A clubs.
Brilliant timing to the video. Genoa sale agreed to American owners. 8th club out of 20 owned by North Americans
As a fan of Italian football, who grew up watching the great years on late 90's and early 2000's, with the Berlusconi, Agnelli, Moratti, and Sensi family around, I miss the eccentricity of the league. That being said, it was very necessary step, as it was no longer sustainable anymore for these families ⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽
Massive shout-out to Lucciano Gaucci, who signed a lady and Gaddafi's son as players
spot on dude
Love your videos dude
@@moumenrezaei1330 oh ofcourse...how could i forget him :))
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Because theyre a great brand with an extremely loyal customer that are unbelievably undervalued in comparison to their counterparts in England.
also because of sheer population size, theres an opportunity here because of simply how big and diverse the country is in its population and demographics.
3:19 "Juventus are actually the only club to own their stadium"
Nope.
Stadio Citta di Tricolore, owned by MAPEI, who owns U.S. Sassuolo, since 2013
Stadio Friuli, owned by Udinese Calcio since 2016
Stadio Atleti Azzuri d'Italia, owned by Atalanta B.C. since 2017
Frosinone, Udinese, Monza.. all own their stadium
true they said the wrong information
And psg are tenants of parc des princes
@@nikhil796 same with man city for instance , west ham
And Atalanta recently purchased their stadium and have completed a large section of the stadium’s renovation.
Commisso looking to sell is a bit of a stretch. Not only has Viola Park (training ground/youth facility) been approved, construction has already begun.
The stadium is proving to be more difficult but it's almost a certainty that it will be built just not at the location Commisso wanted.
Do you have any sources about that last part about the stadium getting built just at different location? I’m very curious. Not too well versed with this topic, but isnt there some sort of board in Italy that will meet in October that can end up being decisive in moving these projects along?
"but it's almost a certainty that it will be built".
You definitely have no idea how it's difficult to build a new stadium in Italy.
Joes voice puts me to sleep at night
Joe on Tifo IRL keeps me up at night
@@rohannaval1621 Damnit, I came here to say this. :3
Super fact! I'm typing this comment as I'm literally in bed, preparing to sleep. Tifo videos are solidly apart of my sleep compilation lol
Your comment is mad creepy
3:24 did someone else say 1.14 billion or am I crazy?
4:16 TIL Everton is 658 times more valuable than Juventus, despite never winning the UCL.
Giant club
That's mistake it should be MN and not BN
@@R.K.3010 why would they value a club in terms of the number of times they can buy Maitland Niles? Arteta has already said he's not going to be sold.
@@fizz113 top tier reply
From today exactly, Genoa too. Anyway, you got it totally wrong on Fiorentina. Commisso isn't selling at all and he could be frustrated about the stadium, not the sporting centre, the Viola Park, that's currently in development.
Hope they can handle it better than a Singaporean owner who drove a historic Spanish club very nearly into the ground as of late
Hahahaha.I really feel sad for Valencia fans.I heard that Peter Lim is looking forward to selling it.
Fair play to Everton being valued at 658 billion
Lol! Didn't even spot that until you mentioned it.
The should buy Real, the Dallas Cowboys, and the New York Yankees.
*million not billion
To what degree does the Italian bureaucracy create unnecessary hurdles for stadium building or renovation? Seems like many owners (not just Americans) commit to building new facilities for their respective clubs, but often meet heavy resistance which inevitably leads to a loss in revenue and damages their relationship with fans. You'd think that, given how beautiful Italy is as a country, they could find ways to make this work without sacrificing any natural/historic views.
MLS is a racket/ ponzi scheme. To think that league has that many teams.
Italy is not lke American sports where teams threaten to leave if the TAXPAYERS don't build Billionaire owners a stadium or Arena.
Also, stadiums in Italy are there for football. Not the private boxes, food and drink, Half Time show, the Phillie Phantic.
Most stadiums are owned by the municipality. This is why many of them have running tracks because they are mult-purpose.
Juve kickstarted the idea (in italy, anyways) of owning your own stadium. I do hope other teams in Italy follow suit.
@@CrociatoAzzurro wow, you criticize American sports teams for using taxpayer funds to help build their stadiums, then admit that most stadiums in Italy are owned by municipalities i.e. PAID FOR BY THE TAXPAYER 😂. "Stadiums in Italy are there for football, not [other stuff related to the match]" then next line "many of them [Italian stadiums] have running tracks because they are multi-purpose." Then hope other teams in Italy follow suit in owning their own stadium... just like the American sports teams do. Have you actually thought about your position before you typed about it? 😂😂 You contradicted yourself on every point you made.
@@jsquared1013
It's all about the stadium. Results mean nothing.
Case in Point:
- Milan AC is known the world over. 7 times European Champions, in their hey day the most feared team around. Value: approximately $750M.
- Texas Rangers of MLB, a true laughing stock, never won a World Series, usually a bad team in a bad Division. Worth: over 2 Billion.
Because they get new stadiums built for them every 2-3 decades.
@@CrociatoAzzurro Not a valid comparison. You can't really influence team results in american sports by being rich. You can't make any major impact. Admittedly idk much about mlb but following the NHL you'll see that the richest teams haven't won a title for years like the maple leaves and New York Rangers whereas the Vegas Golden Knights have won more recently. I don't see how it's a Ponzi scheme still. American leagues are much more competitive as a result and not decided by rich teams.
@@CrociatoAzzurroWho do you think you are talking about the Phillie Phanatic like that? What do you think gives you the license to disparage a mascot which is in the Baseball Hall of Fame, one of only three to be in the HoF. You’ve just declared war on all of the Philadelphia metro area, since the Phillie Phanatic is essentially god in this area, something that all Phillies fans have loved for 45 or so years
4:21 ah yes each of those 4 clubs are with 500-600 billion
That's Microsoft big
Itallian clubs are undervallued assets, certainly makes for a good investment. With new money being injected along with new approaches the league might yet recover its glories.
As a Milan fan I can confirm that building a stadium is near impossible here in Italy. Living in Milan both Inter and Milan have suffered from trash owners in recent year and it's clear that both the owner of Milan and Inter are waiting to sell the clubs. Inter owner, which is Suning company, has lost a lot of value and lost so much money that they had to let go of their best assets last summer: Conte, Lukaku and Hakimi. Milan will host the 2026 olympics and both clubs hope that the new stadium will be built by then but in a few weeks there is the mayor election that is using this topic to get votes; many people don't want the destroyment of San Siro, which is arguably a top 5 football stadium in the world, but both clubs want a new one because the revenue are so low compared to the Juventus stadium (100 millions vs 35). By the end of the year the construction of the new stadium will be starting hopefully
Visited the san Siro this year one of the most iconic in world football so sad that it’s going
2026 Olympics???
Comisso (New York Comos in NISA) and Saputo (Montreal in MLS) both own clubs in North America too.
I now can't watch a normal Tifo video without waiting for Joe to shout a random word or phrase into a 2nd camera before going off on a mad tangent 😂😂😂😭 Tifo IRL has ruined the "Professional Joe persona" for me haha
BREAD!
SANTA!
i too expect him to start talking about skeletons at any moment.
A Video about the German Clubs would be nice. Schalke,Union Berlin are 100% members owned. And others only have the 50+1 Rule.
MAKE MORE VIDEOS ON SERIE A!!!
Nah Bundesliga
Became a, now big, Roma fan after being stationed in Italy for a few years. Good times
Please do a video on Sampaoli’s Tactics at Marseille! It’s blowing my mind!!!!!
That thumbnail is precise 👌 😂
Theyre buying football culture they don’t have, also theyre forcing their young players in those clubs…
That explains why are so many Americans playing in Serie A currently.
Only 4 or 5 currently
Make Italian League great again
Hello dear 👋
@@sophiacamilla5531 how are you doing
Anything America touches will always be destroyed.
All this large scale corporate investments is not going to be good for the clubs. These people know nothing about football or indeed care about it. Leagues should emulate the Bundesliga model of 50+1 where the fans have ownership of the club.
Then enjoy one team winning the league for several years and do not complain "Farmers League, One-horse league blah blah".
@@samizayn5666 one of the main reasons the league is dominated by bayern because other leagues accept foreign investment and have way more money than bundesliga clubs. Any time a team other than bayern gets a good player the epl comes knocking, if all leagues were like the bundesliga the Bundesliga teams other than bayern would have a chance and can mount a challenge
@@n3rd25 true. Look at Bvb. Sancho,Dembele and next will probably be Haaland and Jude.
Btw when was the last time a Bundesliga club (excluding Bayern) bought a star from Epl,La Liga or Serie A.
this could have been a one-second video: "money"
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If you look back in football history, the Italian national team always triumph in international tournaments when their clubs are struggling in Europe. It is the complete opposite for the English national team and their dominant clubs.. Ha!
Interesting 🤔
4:08 TIL AC Milan and Roma are worth over 500x more than Juventus
The question is, why are Italian clubs struggling to where 67% only costs 60million.... we got sports stars that can buy that club....
Most italian teams don’t own their stadium and have huge debts. Same in la Liga
great video. There certainly are some concerning trends with the league, but this video gave me some hope for the future of serie A
I'm sorry but you lot at AC have the worst possible owner. He is the worst person in terms of squeezing money out of something without regard for how it will impact the company.
American investment in premier leauge clubs has shown little return in terms of titles.
Hopefully Italian club will have enough investment to make a mark on europe. Clubs bought by hedge funds have little hope.
Americans understand how to make money from sports entertainment - there is limited value in the premier league or championship these days with too much competitive risk from other clubs. Therefore putting the possibility of success at risk. Italy 🇮🇹 has 4 CL places meaning the chance of returns is better
Very very good point
It’s not so much that these guys want to profit massively, they just won’t tolerate heavy losses. Owning a sports team is not a very efficient way to earn money when you have their level of wealth.
The inflated market elsewhere does not necessarily means quality at large. It is more about having depth in the bench to facs the many dsmanding matches in the season. That is what hurts italian clubs facing an i ability to compete with inflated markets. Hope Milan under a low budget will become great again while re evaluing itself with great players like Theo, Tonali, Calabria, Brahim, Tomori, Leaõ among other prospects. Too bad Donnarumma left for free and hope he will regret it not winning anything at PSG while being benched
I been waiting for so long this guy's voice..it's just like the best bed story
On the same note, Americans buying F1 was the best thing that happened to the sport
It's way better in social media appearance, I remember during the bernie era it is very difficult to find one, now it is very easy
The only time Americans helped a sport that's not American. Most of them are just in for profit and have no idea about the sport.
All of them are in it for profit, dont forget that
@@qwertzu239 yep but by the time they’re happy to cash out, it (hopefully) won’t matter who they sell it to because it will be self sustainable
@@HGAMES69 what fuc**ng non american owner is not in it for the profit. Name one.
theres a lot of stadium upgrades happening in italy
nah only Bologna and Atalanta
Awesome drawing of the "American" guy.
Genoa got an American owner a couple of hours after this video was published
Best video yet excellent work guys
be careful for what you wish for. any time time investors take over the quality and character are over.
NEVER EVER LET ANYTHING BECOME TO BIG!!
You explain it very well, serie A is a top league clubs are known world wide and their cost is relatively cheap...to buy Roma at 70 millions euro is an incredible bargain. Many of Americans buyers are of Italian descent so there's clearly an attachment to their heritage there...However as you explained it Italy is not USA or Canada or even The UK.. Calcio is deep rooted in their culture but Italians are a old society which doesn't like to change quickly. Racism, match fixing, very old stadium etc...that league have many problems which the same Italian authorities are very reluctant to address because it has always been part of calcio according to them...Since their world cup at home only Juventus have a brand new stadium, no other clubs even renovated their. . which is shocking for anybody but not Italian authorities. The truth is if these owners failed to modernize serie a they probably will leave fast as they came.
@ 4:16 all others except Juventus should have MN (Million) right?
The football in serie a is masterclass. The atmosphere not so much. More than half the clubs in the league play in terrible stadiums. And the clubs trying to renovate or build new ones are obstructed by the huge bureaucracy in Italy. It's a shame.
I say this for years infrastructure, to going with the time, is the real problem of the Serie A, based on the football played, it has great quality, it is changing, is going more towards attacking football, and the last European title, with the National team, is showing this, this can give an extra boost to the Serie A, when you watch the games more goals, to less defensive play, more like everyone want to play like Atalanta style, in short the first that make a Stadium in the Serie A, not talking about Juventus, but the most difficult teams, it can break the ice.
Commisso will never sell fiorentina he likes the city the club the fans he still alot to offer its not a over night job it will take time and serie a will see good times ahead of them
It's not been a runaway success certainly. The American owners at Roma and Milan invest nowhere enough to be able to compete with Inter for example. No progress on stadium projects either, just announcements without time frame.
Across Europe Liverpool are possibly the best-run among the US-owned clubs while Man Utd and Arsenal have flopped dramatically under American owners. Even there FSG is not quite willing to invest as much as Abu Dhabi or Abramovich do.
Scotland's got the same with American owners, buying clubs due to ancestors from Scotland and importing American commercial ideas.
6 of whom are now looking to expand the income of the league as a whole. A video about this would be cool
Only 25m for a club. Wow.
Italian-Americans buying Italian Teams.... I'm pretty sure y'all know what type of organization the Italian-Americans are in.
It seems like you watched a lot of Hollywood movies from the past century.
If someone like Kyle Krause bought Parma whom is in Serie B, means he come with serious commitment and I think it will bear results in the near future.
If Dan Friedkin can persuade JM to manage Roma, the rest of American owners also can do the same to persuade top Coach to come to Serie A.
My tip: Fiorentina could following Milan & Roma as football club in terms of brand development and this season they also play attractive football. For neutral fans, you all would love to watch Fiorentina outside Atalanta.
Fiorentina is soooo much like Milan a year ago, A perfect mix of talent and experience, An owner who wishes to take the club back to where they belong and brilliant youngsters.
Same goes for Roma.
Seven sisters are finally Back!!
Details about Fiorentina are wrong on this video. Stadium will be built under the American burst a different location and new training and youth facilities have already were passed and work has begun.
I dont think Italian football clubs will ever have the same international appeal as other less prestigious clubs because they speak Italian.
It sucks but unless your team operates in the English language you really do limit your target market in the internet age.
Nonsense! So how do you explain the size and value of Real Madrid, Barca and Bayern then?
Let's put it this way: The biggest market for these European Clubs is Asia (apart from Europe of course). Asia thrives in economics and almost all Asian countries adopted English as their 2nd language. And that goes without saying the EPL is by far the most popular leagues in this continent, it's not even close as compared to other leagues. It's crazy to think that even small clubs like Wolves, Leicester, Leeds, etc has fans here!
@@blues05 As a person living in Asia, I agree...you are spot-on. But at the same time, it can't be denied that Real and Barca also have quite a large fan base here
@@mikaelespath7624 All those clubs operate in English + he was talking about a league not an individual clubs.
@@bilalahmedshariff5576 for those two I think it's because of the influence of Ronaldo and Messi.
I didn't realise all the clubs were owned by Italians up to so recently. Just seems like the league up for grabs by forigners so.
Answer: Because it’s cheaper
There are cheap clubs in France and Spain too.
milan and roma worth 550 + bn xd nice blunter :D
I'm American and had no idea this was happening, pretty wild
There are few american owners in serie b serie c too
That they didnt say in this video
Pisa ( serie b actually first)
And catania ( serie c used to be' always in serie a )
And Padova ( serie c)
Since the Glazer family step in. It's a following trend
It’s a trend that’s going to save clubs from going downhill financially. This has been going on PRIOR to the glazers and you know that.
You can’t admit that without investors, your club is not finically self sustainable.
Think about it, look at the lower English leagues, they are running out of money.
When talking about the value of AC Milan and Roma compared to Juventus, y'all put $559BN and $548BN instead of in millions
American ownership though nearly all have Italian citizenship which being an angloitalian i think is really cool.
What's Angloitalian
They are investing in football clubs just to make money.Its just another business/investment for them.They dont care about the history,city or fans.They just want to make their pockets bigger and fuller.SerieA championship clubs and big clubs of PL.Its sad to see all this.With more American influence on football the more our beautiful game loses its beauty.Wanting a super league,frequent international tournaments,having a salary cap and other american sports related bs.Absolutely hate this.
That's why in Germany they have the 50 plus 1 rule where the fans are the majority owners of football clubs which stops foreign investors taking over their club. As you say when Americans buy a football club that has existed for over 100 years, all they care about is making money and turning the football club into a franchise
@@AdamTheMan1993 oh but if he’s from a different nation then it’s aight
I believe there's typo in 4:20 min, pretty sure you guys mean Million not Billion yes?
AS Roma has been trying to build a stadium for about 10 years. The problem in Italy and Serie A is their politics/politicians and poor league management led by figures whose ideas and methods are best described as obsolete
That’s because you’re killing the Italian economy using public tax funds. Duh
because they're cheaper to buy than English or Spanish clubs. They can't buy German clubs because of their ownership rules. French clubs are also cheap but not as much upside as Italian clubs either. Low risk, high reward gamble. If it doesn't work out, just sell it. They have billions either way.
Hopefully Fiorentina can do better than the previous few seasons.
What flag is it at the very start? Cos it certainly isn't the Italian one.
Reversal Italy. In reversal Italy the pizza eats you!
That thumbnail. 😂
Cause they love Italian food
Most of them have Italian ancestry
There is nothing worse than an American owner in Serie A...
Actually Fiorentina already started construction works on their campus
Even most of PL clubs are owned by American Owners.
I only know that Arsenal, Burnley, Liverpool and Manchester United are American owned.
@@zomgbrattodilolrenzor6081 aston villa as well i believe the bucks NBA team owner owns it
Well, that’s because the reality is that clubs cannot financially save themselves. They are not financially self sustainable. Why do you think Italian club owners sell it to Americans investors, why is that?
Because times have changed.
Look at the English lower leagues, these clubs need the money but the money is lacking.
Times has changed. You need to globalize your brand or else your club will run out of money to spend.
The only thing that’s saving these clubs is an investor whether you like it or not.
@@zomgbrattodilolrenzor6081 Leeds to. Not fully but American Owners are also share holders
4:05 Think you were meant to put million and not billion for the other clubs
Also Genoa is becoming American now
i hope only Genoa CFC and not the whole city. maybe they annexed it o.o
"Serie A is in an elite class of its own" says the man who bought a top-flight club in that same league outright for just €25 Million. Hmm.
Would be funny if someone like Messi buys it
The guy in the thumbnail looks almost exactly like my dad
🤣
Great vid!
I thought Udinese and Sassuolo own their stadiums as well.
Yes and Atalanta too
La Spezia for 25M EUR? So cheap I could've bought it for myself.
AC Milan was sold a month ago for 1.3 Billion Euros
This one is actually great and spot on something from many changes and difficulties financially
Americans buying football clubs is awful. They wanna remake it into a franchise model asap if you gonna give them an inch, and they have no idea what football means for Europeans.
America tried to create the superleague to destroy European they will try again.
How is Bundesliga's broadcasting rights worth more than that of Serie A?
Perfect thumbnail😂
No mention of Mike Piazza? 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I think Udinese's and Atalanta's stadium are private too
I believe Atalanta, Sassuolo and Udinese also own their own stadiums, not just Juventus
True. Juve since 2011, Sassuolo since 2013, Udinese since 2016 and Atalanta since 2019- hence their stadiums major improvements.
If I don’t hear Joe’s voice at the start of the video, its not getting watched 😂
Funny how an american guy with a German surname like "Krause" feels the need to mention his "italian hertiage" as a reason for buying a club in Italy.
Krause sounds like a jewish name. Very common among american jews. They also own most of American wealth
Tax was reduced in Italy in 2017. That's why Ronaldo moved there and probably why all these Americans have pounced on Italy.
American ownership = no passion for the game. You will see your club fall off slowly because priorities are elsewhere with their money and club history won’t mean anything to the new ownership. These people don’t care about the fans just reel in the money.
That's the plus point about Germany's 50+1 rule where the fans are the majority owners of their footbll clubs
These American companies are actually owned by none other than the Corleone family, that's why the immense interest in Italian clubs 😅