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Behold! The Mongoose Dolomite Fat Bike
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มิ.ย. 2016
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It's hard for me to complain about the Mongoose Dolomite, since it's a sub $200 fat bike. No, it doesn’t shift nicely, and yes, it has one of those terrible seat clamps with the bolts on the sides. It’s precisely compromises like these that make super cheap bikes possible. So with that understanding, I'll give an overview of this bike's strong and weak points.
First of all the paint job is impressive. Even the rims have a nice red powder coat on them, which does a pretty good job of hiding this huge weld. The saddle is also quite comfortable.
The rear derailleur is from Shimano's Tourney group set, which is suspiciously absent from their website. Although I see it available for $6 on the internet, I think it might be the most expensive part on this entire drivetrain.
Speaking of drivetrains, I've gotta give credit to Mongoose for setting this up with a 1x. This makes the bike much cleaner and more mechanically sound. With that said, I think they should have chosen a smaller chainring for the front. At 47 pounds, this thing is pretty hard to pedal on flat, let alone on sand or up hill. I will say though that it's lighter than my last bike by a full pound-of course on that bike I packed the components with sand and pumped the tires full of water.
The disc brakes suck terribly, but surprisingly they are totally adjustable like normal ones. Most department store bikes are built in some proprietary way that makes them difficult or impossible to service. This bike breaks that trend to some extent. That makes me wonder if a better set of pads would improve the stopping power. For now, all I need to do is stop pedaling and the bike comes to standstill pretty fast.
I was especially happy to see a threadless headset. Compared to a threaded headset and quill stem, this feels incredibly solid, and dare I say-safe. I expect this headset to hold up much better than my last one, and I also expect the alignment to stay put.
I have ridden quite a few fat tire bikes, and they were generally heavy and sluggish compared to their skinny counterparts. Still, I was always pleasantly surprised at how well they handled for their size. Not this bike. Sure, if you pump the tires to 20PSI it rolls and steers well, but it’s then useless on sand or chattery terrain. Reduce the pressure to 10 PSI, like a real fat bike, and its off-road performance does improve. Unfortunately, this makes the bike extremely difficult to control, as the steering pulls whichever way you’re turning. I think this is due to the cheap tires, which are pretty thick and shaped oddly. I also think wider bars and a shorter stem would make this bike easier to manage.
If you have this bike and want to give it an upgrade, I might recommend that shorter stem paired with cheap set of 760mm bars.
Even after these shortcomings, I firmly believe this Mongoose Dolomite is a marvel of engineering. Like I said, everything on this is a compromise, designed to keep it below $200. As a society we asked for a cheap fat bike, and here it is. It may seem like certain things could have been made better for the same price though. For instance, would a smaller chainring in the front have changed the price? Well, maybe. You see these bikes benefit from economies of scale, or using parts that can be produced in mass quantity. So, it could have been that this very popular crankset/chainring combination was actually the cheapest route. This scenario is very likely, and is probably the case for many other parts on this bike. So, we don’t really have the right to nitpick the gear ratio.
So now for the real question; why did I buy this bike? Why not a nice fat bike? Well, I have some plans which I wouldn’t have the heart to carry out on a bike like that. If you’ve been following my videos, you could probably guess that the Dolomite is gonna have a rough week.
Stay tuned, because in the next video, things might get a little salty.
Thanks for riding with me today, and I'll see you next time.
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"a sub-200 fatbike" ah the pre-covid world was such an innocent economic time
550 brand new :)))) I got mine for 180 off. For 340. Hah
Yea I just saw it on Amazon for 430 😅
A similar bike now is like 399$
i got mine for 299 at k mart back in 2017 i believe
seth doesn't post as often as others, but when he does post you know it's going to be a video of very high quality
It’s more consistent than wonderbrads
a whole video without dropping the f bomb, I'm impressed seth
You know I haven't dropped one since about 50 videos ago?
+Paul Daniel Williams you guys are talking about the same thing. I think he knows what "f bomb" means
+Gordon Larson fuck, correct
Fuck it just bring it back
+Projectepic haha... I liked those days, but the big sites don't share when you're droppin' bombs
I rode one of these for 3 years through western NY winters, bang for the buck best bike I've ever used.
7 years later this bike is 500$
Can you please do a trail review of this bike and a $1000 fatbike, comparison on a trail to see how much slower they are than your trail bike.
LOL'in at the $6 rear derailleur! Funny and informative all the way through, Seth.
I have a nushiki 24 inch it is ok kinda
Update its fuked up now
@@ryann754 lol
My dad owns this bike but we’ve changed a lot of parts we got lighter wheels,custom grips,custom pedals, and a gear ring. It’s great now and we still saved money
Your house must be getting awfully crowded these days!
At 47 lbs we know he's not hanging this one on the wall!
Haha, that's the first thing I thought of when he started unboxing it.
yeah.... I'm committed to destroying this one due to insufficient storage
Maybe you could use the current n+1 situation to make a homemade bike storage solution tutorial (aside from the closet).
Seth's Bike Hacks I'll take it
I got this bike thinking of upgrading all the components but I have only upgraded the entire drive train, added a suspension fork and new set of Shimano hydraulic disc brakes and I am very happy with it. It handles great and it a blast to ride (it's like a tank)!
This video shows how good Seth's story telling is. This is why he's so successful
I can't wait to find out what you have in store! thank God you aren't a filmmaker or I would have to sit outside the theater, for nights on end waiting to see the sequel.
thank God for TH-cam!
"In the next video, things are gonna get a little salty."
*CS:GO MENU SONG PLAYS IN THE BACK OF HEAD*
I don't know how you are pushing out so many high quality videos so fast! :)
I think it depends on your mechanical skill and what parts you already have left over or laying around . and a lot of the bike snobs are just insane. .there like shoe snobs. I have a mongoose hitch..I got the shimano mega 34 tooth 7 speed freewheel for 15.00 a hollow crank 36/22 crank off of a specelized fat boy for 29.00.
I had a aerus aluminum set back seatpost in the parts bin . paid 3.99 for a shim to fit . bought a pro master 35 degree riser stem had some leftover aluminum bars . had a brand new 9 speed shimano lx 9 speed rear derailleur , had an lx 3 speed front shifter and bought an lx direct mount front derailleur for 8.00 .and had some road bb5s. snd one avid 160 rotor for front. . stripped off all the mongoose badging and got a vintage reproduction redline head tube decal.. will use the heavy stock tires for now but I don't have much money in this bike and rides great I like it still using the stock shifter works pretty good with the lx rear.
so if you have some parts it might make a good fun bike..
Found this channel a few days ago after looking at tricks and now it's my new favourite! Great guy who surprisingly is very similar to me; I want to be a web developer and I enjoy mountain biking but I want to learn some tricks like him! Thanks
+Greg Faulkner welcome aboard!
i want to make one of those in my mums garden, but thats nevr gonna hppen
Thanks Seth, your budget bikes reviews are awesome! Nobody want to review budget bikes but you!
My son has had his for a few years now and it's very solid and reliable. Probably the best bike we have owned. We don't need an expensive bike for the handful of times we use them.
Was so excited to see this! I won that fat bike in an arcade on one of those impossible machines somehow then sold it for $150. Can't wait to see what you do with it.
Guys, check the Singletracks.com Podcast tomorrow for a Q/A they did with me last week. It should post late day or possibly Tuesday. Share it!
EXCUSE ME HOW MUCH IS THIS!'¡?
I had to watch the beginning again as I didn't believe what I heard either
!! :¬o
I've always liked mongoose builds i usually go mongoose when getting a bmx
Makshar Israel Potentially the answer is yes, because there is more weight to be spun by pedalling, but also, I reckon that in some downhill situations the fat tire could be faster. Particularly if the terrain is very rough as those tires are about the same width as the front tire on a trials motorcycle..
The problem is that a wider tire will always create more resistance via friction, even with increased air pressure because the contact patch is bigger. But I think these fat tire bikes are going to become very popular in urban situations. I definitely want one! B¬)
I just bought this bike from Walmart and for the price I'm very pleased with it.
Hard to imagine considering this guy bashed it pretty much completely in his video. Thinking about buying one though, not sure.
Was it $200?
I am so glad I found your channel! I don't mountain bike, only been a couple times some what seriously. But after watching a shit tonne of your videos you have really inspired me to get away from my PC and get a mountain bike. Your videos are incredibly well made, keep it up!
Interested to see how it holds up. Keep up the solid work!
nothing will be as salty as an under paid bike mechanic. whom you ask to fix a bike you dumped in the ocean. lol
@Chris Duke I'd love to see that on the final bill. "New tires, new chain, pest control, brakes adjusted, derailers adjusted."
Man, I have been following your channel since you have 3k subs! it's amazing you have almost 80k subs, great video :)
+Abdi Zero thanks for sticking around! I'm hoping the weather holds out today so I can properly soak this thing...
+Seth's Bike Hacks can u do a review on a Voodoo mtb?
this was the first seth’s bike hacks video and i’ve seen, and will never be the last!
I think no matter what bike you ride, what brand is your favourite, what gear you use doesn't matter because we are all mountain bikers and we should unite as one not seperate different categories or groups
Well thats a little gay aint it
@@rrezonbeqiri5059 what?
You definatly wanna check out fat biker vaibhav's channel for fatbike stuff
How do you build that little ramp you were jumping the fatbike off of?
Like this th-cam.com/video/4j2JnSnCsPU/w-d-xo.html
Seth's Bike Hacks
So is anyone going to question the fact that Seth just responded to Osama bin laden
Thanks for a realistic review on a bike in this price range too many people criticize this bike and snob at the people who ride em
When he opened the small park tool box , My mind went to his current patk tool set up lol. Dudes awesome
i like how he separates his videos into separate "episodes" its kinda cool
my profile pic is a pic of an elephant ok
Anybody else notice how expensive this thing is now?
577 on amazon
I found mine for 200 bucks brand new 🙌
I bought a used one for 150 and it had some mods done to it
$269 on Walmart
Bought mine for 130 before price spike lol
Good video keep up with the good work!!!!
Always watching your videos as soon as it goes on haha
I love how you think Mr. Seth that is going to be a super cool video!
6 years later this same bike is now $500+ on Amazon
That derailer is going to become part of the rear wheel very, VERY soon :)
I had a tourney on the front, I don't know how is it possible to fuck up a front derailer but, well, the tourney did it. On the rear? I think I'd rather go single speed that lug that piece of crap around :D
I've been riding a Tourney RD for almost a year (using friction shifters) and to be honest, it does work very well considering how cheap it is. And my FD is something like that as well, and again, I've yet to have a problem with it.
The friction shifters make all the difference. Pretty much any derailleur will shift alright with friction since you can trim it. The Tourney certainly does not index well
Tourney came on my jamis trail x. I bought the cheap version so I could upgrade as needed or wanted. Gotta say it shifts like total shit but it's held up to many jumps and crashes over a year and a half.
Seth I am so happy about how much your channel has grow you definitely don't remember me . but I was watching you since 7.5k and I still love your videos. keep it up and can't wait to see you pass 100k
I do remember you!
Seth's Bike Hacks Hey seth after watching you videos for a while i decided to finally get back into some fun Jumps. Today i went to a park called sunny die bike park and i did the table tops on the small one after a couple perfectly landed ones i did not judge my speed and went like 6 feet in the air now i cant ride for like 2 weeks lol. can you do a how not to fuck up dirt jumps vid.
I was looking at these for a daily driver. I had a Specialized Sirrus Hybrid, which was great for asphalt trails, toodling around on paved streets. But my daily ride to work takes me through crushed lime rail trails, mud, sand, and crater-filled side streets. So instead of getting the Dolomite or the HItch, I opted for the Gravity Bullseye Monster from Bikes Direct. So far it seems like a pretty solid bike, but I have a feeling like my hybrid, I'll part ways with it and just get the Surly Long Haul Disk Trucker with 26" mountain bike tires at that point.
My God Seth! I don't have the $300-$500 laying around to buy a nice bike that I can keep and love forever. The only thing I can afford is either a department store bike or a piece of junk from the swap meet that's $45-$100. What I'm getting at is what in the hell do I do to ensure I can get a good bike for my budget! Mine is a Roadmaster that I got from the swap meet for $60 and I need help and advice because I can't afford a nice one. I'm down on my luck.
+Lauren Peralta Keep your eyes out for a used name brand bike! Sometimes you can find a good deal. Look for things like bolts (no rivets) and quick release skewers (instead of nuts). These are the things that make it easier to service and upgrade a bike. If you can do that, your options are limitless! Go the full Walmart route, and you'll be stuck with repairs that cost as much as the bike.
How can u say that seat clamp is terrible on my one grand bike I have that kind of clamp and its good cuz u can higher or lower the saddle fast and easy with out tools required!
Btw I have also a roadbike with regular screws and it's a hell to stop and rise or lower it some where else than home and I don't always evn have a toolkit with me when I am riding.
Lauren Peralta save up
Lauren Peralta SAVE 💰
I bought two nice mountain bikes under 500. Both bikes have disk brakes and good full suspension. However, I live in a area with a lot of mountain biking, so there is a big market for used bikes. Join local buy sell pages on Facebook. I bough two bikes off a local buy sell page. One was only 150 and the other was 400.
Looks good to wheelie
I was given one and am tearing it completely and repainting and putting some upgrades on it ...Hey it was free~! Thanks for the video gave me some cool ideas
"Things might get a little salty." Hahahah! That's a great prediction. Really looking forward to whatever comes next.
Would tou recomend to buy it to customize it?
Felix grandgirard no
Seems nice, I reckon you should upgrade the bike a bit though, for example for another 100-200 bucks. That would still be relativley cheap for a fatbike and see what can a bike like this achive with a few "better" parts.
The only problem is that the bike comes with a freewheel, so to really do any meaningful upgrades I'd need to spend a lot of money on a good fatbike cassette hub, then a cassette, and then a whole new drivetrain. So, I'd be much better off starting with something SLIGHTLY nicer that already comes with a cassette. If it weren't for this costly consideration I'd say it would be worth tweaking.
I see, brakes and tires would be a sweet upgrade.
Wouldn't it be good enough with just some better tyres a new cog on the front and a decent derailleur on the back? (then of course handlebar and stem adjustments to personal preference, but that's a given)
I wish you posted more stuff. I love watching the vids🙌
I remember when Mongoose was considered a higher end bike and sold right along side GT, Hutch, etc. at high end bike shops. Then they kind of fell off for awhile and next thing you know they are in Walmart.
How did you make that ramp? I was thinking about making one.
Never mind. I found out how to make it.
please do a video on the different style rear suspension....like a vertical vs a horizontal rear shock....i cant figure out the differences between the 2
They are actually completely different. For example vertical gives you a straighter travel of the rear wheel so a more xc style. On the other hand the horizontal is better for DH because it has more leverage going downhill and more responsive while breaking but it sucks to pedal on it. So the horizontal =sucky pedal platform but great responsiveness. Vertical= amazing pedal platform and not very responsive (doesn't move through travel as easy as horizontal). But it's all about your style of riding so if you are looking into one of these bikes go to your LBS and demo both styles. Good luck out there!
+Cameron Griego thank u so much, this is exactilly what i was looking for
Agreed
+Jacob Wanner no problem wish u luck with ur new bike!
I have one with a motor ! You are completely right, its great for the price. It needs some upgrades but its great out of the box. It seems heavy but its probably strong. GL
Seth I've always enjoyed your videos and always will !
"The paint job is nice it helps hide the weld " rather have strong welds
I bought a Mongoose 21spd mountain bike in 90'. It retailed for like $475-$500. I think it was Korean. It was a very solid bike, but had already lost its image as an aftermarket badboy that it was in the 1970's.
Hi Seth,
I was just wondering if all the tricks and jumps you do on your Trek hard tail can just as easily be done on a dual suspension bike?
I really think your reviews are helpful, thank you 😊!
Dont be to harsh on her though, she is pretty new for the moment :D
+giraffar u pervvvvvvvvvvvvvv'
+Total Station what can I say? I like fat bu-bikes, especially one that never been ridden before :)
I wonder if he wrote everything he said in the review LMAO
There's people like that
It looks like that is the exact same crank on my daughter's 20" mongoose mountain bike, plastic bash guard and all. So your mass production theory is spot on.
48 lbs! I thought.. would helium in the tires help to lighten that beast up??
Then I remebered when nitrogen in car tires became popular and I had access to it through my work, how much handling and road feel improved in my vehicles. Maybe some nitrogen filled tires would help handling on the dolomite.
Thanks for churning out the vids dude. I got all giddy thinking of what is to come... rising up from the murky depths!
Nice vid. And thankyou for using good music.I just bought a cheap fat bike. I'm lovin' it so far.I live near the beach and there's no hills but Im gonna have legs like a wrestler in no time!
At that price I doubt those rims are welded. Pinned or sleeved most likely
you're likely right about that... unless they're spot welded on the inside. I guess I'll need to tear her down at some point and find out!
Seth's Bike Hacks I have a schwinn Biggity fat tire bike which is very simaliar to this one. I have ridden at dirt parks with mine and the rims did hold up well surprisingly. I upgraded the handlebars to 750mm bontraeger elite bars and stem, lever shifter, shimano deore derailleur, steel pedals and hydraulic disc brakes.
I think if anyone does those simaliar upgrades to an inexpensive fat tire bike. It's great for someone who wants fat tires but are on a budget
A Drone I have a mongoose malus, w/ street tires(3" Duro Beach Bum's), MegaRange Freewheel, Shimano brake shifter lever, KMC X 8.9 3 chain, front & rear lights, luggage rack, bottle holder w/ stainless steel bottle, small aluminum air pump, phone tank bag, mirrors, bell, mini BMX bars, grips and a soft seat. I have under $500 in the whole thing new. I ride around the city at night, I've had the bike 2years with 1200 miles on it. It's still like New. I'm 43 & biked my whole life, this is my favorite bike, although I did peel all the mongoose decals off (I say its a Pacific Cycle)
they are welded in in the Republic of China, they really work a torch well in Asia
i like vids like this😃
hey, can you give me a review about the KTM soul model 2007? the pink one, i have one, and i want to know what you think about it
please
this video is a classic example of seths ingenuity and passion of cycling
let me guess your gonna ride it in the water
How did you know
im back from feeding my weasel to couch
My mongoose beast is still going strong after 1500 miles, department store fat bikes are only for the mechanically inclined and strong legged. None the less they will put a smile on your face.
Would these be a good bike for wheelies and cruising all around town ??? Anyone know I’m not really looking to trail ride it so is it a good bike for what I want it for
Hang on a sec... you saw the Tourney groupset on the internet for $6?
Phil Adams just derallieur I think
Salty Dolomite!
LOL @ the ending.
"before I get rid of it, i need to remove anything of value"
Damn never thought 200 dollars was cheap... just me tho lol
Bikes are fuckin expensive upwards of $2000
On the wages most real people make 200.00 for any bike is a lot of money...its a shame we have been convinced that more expensive is better...when I was a kid mom took me down to Western Auto (a general store in the 70's ) I picked out a bike that looked the best , she paid for it and I ride it .....nothing else mattered but I had a bike...let's just ride and have fun and no be so up tight...its just a damn bike!!!
Ramsey Weaver I said the same thing!! Dude was like this is a cheap 200 dollar bike. And I laughed.
If you want a cheapy bike then go ahead but bikes are much more than just the sum of their parts, just like cars.
Ramsey Weaver c'mon man, you remember what that Schwinn your buddy had rode like right? That came at a premium of about double what most bikes cost, and damn they did last a long time.
What Schwinn and Mongoose represent today is what absolutely sucks the life from a once prosperous middle class to the dwindling ranks they are today.
however, I cannot rip on you for the choices your mom gave you. Mine took me to Montgomery Ward where I picked a Murray.
Best wishes, and thanks for the flashback.....
However do let me make it clear I have 6 bikes mine include 1 Mongoose Fat bike, 2 Genesis 29er s , 1 Speaciazed Roll Elite , 1 Trek Fx 4", and 1 Diamondback Edgewood
One of my 29er s was purchased from Walmart in 2011 and now has over 700 trouble free miles on it and is still going strong (just rode it earlier today) and looks brand new kept in my bike room at my house. It also depends on how you care and take care of them.... Other toys I have include my Honda Rancher 420 , Honda Recon 250 and an EZ Go golf cart all garage kept and well taken care of as well ... So be careful before you spit ...You never know what kind toys the next guy has!!!
Good day mate!!!
Festivejelly Please read my" However " post
I own one, had to change a few things including what Seth mentioned in the video. Though it's super heavy I have some fun riding it. Mostly in the city. I read that by changing tires you can make it lighter by 5 pounds! lol
Converted this bike to dual wheel 1000w x2. The frame has help up great under about a 300lb load so far(about 3 years). Me, batteries, heavy hub motors. Its the best thing since sliced bread. :)
can u give ur broken bikes to me?? is that possible?? 😀
Keep wishing buddy
What is your day job that pays for all these damn bikes?? Jealous
I swapped out a 34 tooth freewheel and added a 30 tooth chainwheel alongside the 36 tooth.
It's working well. I can physically move it back to the 36 when I add a hub motor.
I got the new black and blue Dolomite.
Added comfy seat and cruiser handlebars, new pedals, trigger shifter, foam grips, bell, mirror, rear rack, front basket, phone cam holder, speedometer, lights. I want to fabricate double rear baskets that mount to the rack with a quick release.
Thanks for the review! Over here they are sold as "Ridgeyard" and for 320€.
LOL my bike is 14 pounds
Got a balance bike ?
;-)
Hold on, I'm baking you some cookies.
Walter White I habe a frickin clay track bike, so same
Pfhhhh rodie
Yo It's me, Dawg take that thing off some drops
firstly thanks for the tips on how to master different skills and how to fix your bike.
secondly you have just earned a sub and a like from me for making these awesome vids. keep it up
Awesome video man, very helpful and detailed. 👍💯
Next video- Bikes vs salt water? Can't wait!
That was a great outdo with the waves going In and out.
I got the malus its the same but grey. I love it, I made the full switch to fat bikes and I will never be going back. I plan on ordering a Motobeane Boris X9 within the next few weeks.
Also side note I switched to a tx55 derailer the stock is a 35 is believe. I also got two sets of resin break pads from amazon the breaks pads stock are full metal and wore really quick so they screech and scream at every slight tug on the breaks. I also got a set of origin 8 levers left and right because i was on trails with it and landed face first into a fucked up day and ruined the left break lever. all 3 of these upgrades together make the bike so much more enjoyable and costed around 50$. I run 20 psi and at this point im use to the weight and can sorta kinda keep up with traffic when I commute.
Do you have an idea what the frame and fork is made out of? I know it's steel. But what kind? Probably HiTen? Is there a chance it's CroMoly? Thanks
Props to Seth for writing the entire script as a review
Seth i had snapped my male bmx front axle and i was wondering would size would be good to fit two pegs because i bought a 140mm and it can only fit 1 pegs with not much thread left over
I love your videos u deserve more subs, keep up the good work and keep uploading!!!!!!!!!!
I need help I have the same fatbike but I need to now how to take the China make small because my gear mast up an it broke off an so I don't have a tool to take it of how do I take the China off with out the tool
You deserve your silver play button now
This bike have 1x7. Does it have wide narow or ts simple one? I want to change from 3x7 to 1x7 but in serbia we dont have narrow wide chainrings to buy
Nice video Seth, waiting for torture test and basics upgrades.. Best videos for bikers on Internet.. Venezuelan follower :)
On my MTB my front suspension is squeaky anything i can to do fix it? It's a Scott Voltage YZ 35.
Suspension lube spray or a rebuild depending how bad the squeak is
Love these videos. And glad I have subbed ur channel.
bro I am new to cycling and thinking of fat bike .I travel on road only and some times off road .So can I go with bike with front shockers or without any suspension or shockabsorber
"For now all I have to do is stop pedaling and the bike comes to a standstill pretty fast." That is golden!
I pumped my tires to the max 20 psi and as long as the wind isnt blowing towards me it just keeps rolling with barley any effort.
See how heavy you can make it and try some tricks. So excited for the ocean video haha.
Can you review the sonic fat bike, because my dad bought my brother one for £300 and I just want to know if it's good or not?
Anyone know what the weight limit is on this bike? I'm trying to lose some weight so I would love to get me a bike to ride to work everyday.