I’m a white woman who grew up in the ghetto with drug addict parents that didn’t even raise me. I grew up and struggled daily to get ahead or even be on the level of others. It’s not about black or white.. it’s about money. I broke that cycle and now have 4 educated, successful, and most importantly THANKFUL children. They saw my struggle and it drove them harder to be better. If you change the way you look at things.. the things you look at change
My story is very similar.. I can’t imagine how many thousands and thousands and thousands are just like that and are white. I got no money from my parents after they were gone or anything. Blacks always love to say that we have generational wealth.? we are talking about a small percentage of white people that have that and enough money. In the end in my opinion, that so many blacks are the way they are is their own fault. It’s just that simple. Obviously some really have been screwed over but many whites have been screwed over also in different situations and so have other races.
Yep. Had an upper middle class alcoholic dad who abused us so much I left at sixteen and worked three jobs to get through college and 60-80 hours since. Its all about class and race is part of that, but not the main issue.
While your success is to be congratulated and should be celebrated, there’s certainly a case to be made that from a developmental and an economic perspective, your deficit from conception is less than it would be had you been a person of color. That’s not to take a single thing, feeling or hardship from your struggle, one that you’ve overcome and succeeded in spite of, but we don’t all start the race of life at the same position. That’s the core element of equity versus equality. Acknowledging this and working to understand the difference is the next step in our societal development.
I'm sick of people calling accomplishments, things we earn with blood , sweat and tears, "privilege"...everyone in my family works their ass off to be where they are , nothing has been handed to them or myself .
I don't think anyone who beats that drum is really trying to take anything away from people like that. It's always been about the realization of chances. Most white families have generational wealth/land. It's just a fact. Most white families have higher credit rating giving better options for school. It's just a fact. Most white families aren't born into a lifestyle that corrupts them from the start. Another fact. You can argue all day that we are what we make of ourselves...but if the roles we reversed.. It would still be the same argument and fight. It's not about blame... it's about a portion of our countrymen that have been left behind for years while others were able to thrive. Has nothing to do with the working class... at all.
@Jonathan Lantzy that right there is the mind set that is the problem and the reason why racial animosity is on the rise. Paint a whole color of people as better than others. Do some areas have a harder time than others? Sure. Doesn't mean one should look down on them nor should they paint a whole color of people as having some invisible privilege. By the way, Indians per capita are the richest demographic in the US followed by Asians most of whom came to the US with nothing and within a generation make it to on average middle class.
@@jonathanlantzy7526 Is it really MOST white families? Is there a statistic on that you con point me to? I haven't met most white families, so I can't speak from direct experience. Only the ones I know. And so what you are describing (generational wealth, higher credit ratings, born into non-corrupted upbringing) isn't the norm among the white families I know. I'd love to be exposed to the statistics going on across the board. Thanks!
“You can’t go out and act a certain way that’s not respectable and get mad when people don’t respect you” is legit one of the best lines I’ve ever heard. I’m stealing that shit.
My white father picked cotton. My white mother was a housekeeper for wealthy people. Generational wealth never existed in my family. Just a little insight. Love y'alls channel!
Yes!! Generational wealth does not apply to all white families. My grandmother picked cotton and her family was dirt poor and the other came here as immigrants with only what they could carry in a suitcase.
my Grandma had to quit school to pick cotton... many of my distant relatives were pickers... they traveled to different states to pick... the entire family did it.
Yo why does everyone think white privilege means we all had money? That is not what is means. There are a ton of poor white people, too. No shit. That doesn't mean their life wouldn't have been even harder if they were black or native. Take your brain meds grandpa
@@bradbradford8576 I know the difference. I was commenting to the gentleman in the video who literally said "maybe generational wealth [is white privilege]". You are so quick to be nasty to a stranger when you clearly didn't pay attention to the video or why the subject matter was being discussed. I'll pray for you.
@@as7326 +1, sadly the emotion and hysteria attached to these topics is how we get off-track. The Cartier Family videos are so interesting because they have passion but forgoe the hysteria.
I’m a Conservative Republican and your debates and own analysis on topics and termination is astounding! I’m very impressed with the maturity and diligence for a very young group but very wise beyond your years! Keep up the great work your doing but don’t let society dictate how you feel and want to express as long as it doesn’t infringe on others rights! You gentleman have made a fan and a subscriber! “Liberty is meaningless where the right to utter one’s thoughts and opinions has ceased to exist. --Fredrick Douglas One of the founding members of the Republican Abolitionist party… "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." --Thomas Jefferson
As a Mexican male, I’m glad to see everyone hear keeping it 💯 instead of playing the “minority victim” that the racist white liberal wants us to be. Big ups and thank you for being a true voice. Keep it up 💪🏽
If you guys represent the thought process of most of our youth, it gives me hope for the future. You’re thoughtful, rational, and honest. No political hysterics. And I love that you emphasize personal responsibility, personal behavior and hard work. Love your channel! Proud of you boys ❤️
I think they are more of an exception than rule. Another thing that is even if someone doesn't really believe something they will still argue for it because it benefits them.
the sad reality is that most youth don't think the way these guys do. Most kids choose to believe that they are victims and don't even work to better themselves.
Love how you guys discuss a range of topics that experts have weighed in on, you are all educating yourselves so well and I respect this discussion forum.
What I love about yall is you actually think about stuff. You don't cowtow to one side or the other for clout or views. Thanks for keeping it a buck, fellas.
But honestly, these people will fall victim to the grift. Because low iq people automatically fall for word salad if bigger words are used. There’s no nuance. That’s why right leaning influencers will tell us to shame intellect. To keep us dumbed down. For instance, Ben Shapiro’s biggest “gotcha moment” was “why are black people 13% of the population but commit 50% of the crimes.” Then says it’s culture. But where’s the nuance? If it was culture, then why do more black people want police in the neighborhood than don’t? It’s obviously not black culture to commit crimes. So why is there so much crime? That’s where the nuance is supposed to come in. There’s many reasons. For one, there’s like a million more cops placed in black communities than white communities…so more crimes are gonna be investigated and exposed than in white communities. And you can’t say they were placed there because of crime because more police have been dispatched to the black community back during Jim Crowe when the black community was super Christian and didn’t actually commit crimes. But still more cops were placed there with intentions to arrest black people to keep the community’s population from outgrowing the white, which would cause more black homes to be a necessity, which would push the black community closer to the white community. We literally had a president (I forget which one) who said something along the lines of “since we can’t make being black a crime, we can…dot dot dot” (I forget the rest but look it up) also, redlining was a racist institutionalized policy which kept black people from benefiting off owning a home that would increase in value. And everyone knows back then buying a home was a great investment for the family’s finances. But blacks were forced into ghettos and low value areas that would only decrease in value over time. Also, the constitution once made a black man’s vote 33% of a white persons vote. So it would take 3 black votes to equal 1 white vote. So how could they possibly have voted in politicians that would fight to amend those racist policies and amendments? So those racist policies remained for years causing the black community’s economy to plateau. And it’s the reason why there’s still all blacks ghettos today. Because it’s taking longer to catch up. This causing poverty which caused mental illness which causes crimes. There’s so much nuance but Shapiro chops it up to “culture” it’s word salad.
Also I just reread my comment and it sounds like I’m calling these Cartier family guys low iq. Definitely didn’t mean it like that. But the right uses buzzwords and talking points that will keep your depth of thought at surface level and that’s no good. And social right becoming pop culture shows that millions of people don’t have the depth of thought to realize these conservative influencers are lying without actually saying lies. Just bad faithed statements that brainwash you into thinking irrationally.
@James Doakes I'm not sure I 100% agree with you there, James. The president you're thinking of was Richard Nixon, and it's why he started the drug war--for votes. Everyone's been caught up in it since. Black people didn't have 3/5 of a vote, *slaves* had no vote at all and were considered 3/5 of a person for purposes of the census. With the exception of today's policing, all the policies you're talking about are from the pre-civil rights era, which is what Ben Shapiro is pointing out, why are outcomes worse now than back then? What I would say is Ben Shapiro doesn't get everything right, and he's obviously an ideologue, which does generally suck in a large number of non-thinkers. The whole racism thing is the greatest trick the devil ever pulled IMO. For one it, makes it a lot harder to play a game if you're constantly told the deck is stacked against you. For another, when things get broken down into black and white, people with similar interests and problems are too busy fighting over whether or not it's a black and white thing to link arms and go at the actual problem, diluting the power of both. Black people have been historically oppressed, which is why black people are a target for the system, but black people aren't the only target. While black people are over-represented, the *majority* of people in jail, on welfare, killed by the police, don't graduate high school, etc. are white. In terms of making things better, what sense does it make to divide those groups up by race? 🤔
As an old white dude, I can honestly say I was never taught to be racsist or disrepectful to ANYBODY. Nor did the concept of white priviledge ever cross my mind. Did I have it? I don't know. Maybe. But it does my heart good when I hear you guys honestly say you feel the playing field has leveled for you. Best to all of you.
@@cheeky7036 As a fellow old white dude, if you don't know, then yes you had it (and you still do). Part of, if not most of, white privilege is that you don't know--that's the privilege. I didn't know either. I married a woman of color. Still didn't know. Was with her for many years. I still didn't know. Then one day, we got pulled over by police. I was driving. Cop was white. I was pissed. It was a cheap.. 50 in a 40, but where I was pulled over, sign raising the limit from 40 to 50 was visible, maybe 1/4 mile away. It was the end of the month. Quotas. Technically, I was 10 over. But still, cheap ticket. During the experience, only thought in my mind was, is this guy giving me a warning, or is he actually going to give me this cheap-ass ticket. I got the ticket, I was pissed. I let him know what I thought. When he left, I looked over, and my wife was crying. Completely different experience for her. Took me a long time and many conversations to understand why. For me, police pulling me over = ticket or warning. Those are the only options. For her, there where other options: humiliation, beating, death. Those options had never occurred to me, because they don't apply to me. Not because I wasn't guilty -- I was 10 over. But because I was white. White privilege has nothing to do with how you, as an individual white dude, sees race. Its about how society sees you, versus how it sees people who are not white. Its very easy to get defensive -- I'm not racist. That's great, but not the point, and not enough.
@@slipstreammonkey it was eight days ago and I don't remember exactly how I meant it.. but I'm still wondering after being white for 64 years what does privilege is, and why only black people can see it
Bro I appreciate how open minded you guys are but there’s a lot of white people who don’t have generational wealth. Everything I have I did myself. I had nothing my mom had nothing. I think we should all sit back and just appreciate we have the ability to work as hard as we need as humans to get where we want to go in life. We all need to take responsibility and show more love.
Yeah my family came as refugees from ww2 with nothing. I still get blamed for slavery lol. Most of my ancestors died in forced labor camps. Im envious of slaves, at least they were considered an investment. Your life at least had value of some sort. What a privlege from my point of view. Id much rather be a slave than exterminated as vermin.
This was a very good conversation fellas. I love that you are trying to get it all out there. Keep up the good work. You're all doing a very good job with this channel.
Sadly, many would rather listen to race hustlers and race baiters instead of brilliant individuals such as Thomas Sowell who grow up in the Jim Crow era and went on to become very successful.
I was a cop for 20 years and its great to hear you guys speak about this. Especially about self image.. I dealt with that a lot and unfortunately humans judge people on appearance. On all beginnings and endings of the spectrum, we all can be judged by the way we conduct ourselves. There is a standard we should all conduct ourselves, its called morals. I am so happy that you guys are not blinded by the news and false narratives that the government and the classism crowd wants us to believe. As a people when we are united we are an unstoppable force so they have divide us. The quickest way to do that is use race and oppression. This is also why they are trying to ultimately take away our guns. If we keep our minds truly informed our families armed then the government cant take our rights by thoughts or force.
I love listening to these guys, it reminds me of my time in the military. They’re just super real and it’s cool too see so many different levels of opinions try and actually understand what our popular issues are. I’m just a middle aged, white woman living with her dog and this shakes up my usually boring day.
I have been white for 42 years... and NEVER have I had privilege!! Trust me... you guys have done WAY BETTER in life in 20+ years than I have in 42... and you guys are black! It's a matter of your own actions... not your skin color! You guys are awesome.. stay that way!!
@@kathypop4 I know what they mean.. I just used 1 example! Ok.. I have been stopped and harassed by cops at least 30 times in my life.. I bet they can't say the same! Just difference in actions.. not skin color!! Not most of the time! There are other examples.. but if your not smart enough to get what I was saying.. I can explain it to you further if you need! 😊
Thank you all for your open mindedness. You’re truly level headed, intelligent guys who don’t buy into unsubstantiated propaganda that’s being fed to us as Americans to keep us divided. We can overcome together irregardless of skin color. Keep doing what you’re doing!
Most refreshing conversation I've heard in a long time. The small minority of black people, who unfortunately have the loudest voice, are those who aren't as well considered as you guys. And that's what causes rifts between society. We need more people like you guys.
So true. I am white and had two narcissistic parents. I have always been jealous of people with healthy parents no matter their color. I would trade places in a millisecond.
You guys are in the right track. I’m all for the comment of you forming a corporation. You are what this country needs. Keep the discussions going! You are the best influence on minds I’ve seen.
You guys are definitely a breath of fresh air. Nothing or nobody is going to dictate who you are or what you are. Keep thriving & keep that positive mindset. ♥️🤗
Would they also be a breath of fresh air if this were a video about how white privilege is real? I'll make as assumption here but I'm guessing you typically disagree with the general black communities stances on things which is why this is so nice for you to see.
@@michaell8184 more like they're not following the sheep mentality that most people on Twitter, Reddit, Hollywood and CNN follow. They believe in their ideologies and are thinking on their own.
These guys should be our future congressmen. Reason why is that they are open-minded. They think for themselves. period. Great job guys. Love your content!
Brandon feels that he was afforded the same opportunities as everyone else and the other 4 agreed. The truth is that all 5 of them are athletes who’ve been afforded a level a privilege because of their athletic prowess. That’s a key difference that I hope age and more life experience will help them realize.
You 5 young men need to form a corporation. Put together a forum and begin lecturing at schools and other organizations. You will be in such demand. I truly feel that the 5 of you can bring this entire country together. You are logical, honest and entertaining with your messages. All the while presenting yourselves as real men, which is what we need more of. Very well done! Btw...I would approve a loan for any one of you!
I 💗 the Real discussion among you guys! I’m here for it to hear your opinions & perspectives. So glad that you kept it running & didn’t edit anything out. This is what we need in the world to make our communities better where we actually listen to each other instead of only hearing static. Keep being your genuine selves & life will keep rewarding you.❤❤
Thank you for the conversation. Generational wealth was granted to fewer rather more. Many white people immigrated with nothing. I’m a second generation from an immigrant, who came to the US after WW2. We were poor. Had enough for food and shelter but that’s it. When my folks died there was no inheritance. I have worked since my teen years.
My great grandparents moved to the North after WW2 because a black man had been lynched in their neighborhood, but the whole family couldn't come at once because the police in the white part of town would stop them and arrest them on some trumped up charges. They also couldn't walk through the white part of town to get to the train station, or walk along the train tracks because that was considered a crime, so a couple at a time the family had to be driven out so as not to raise suspicion. If your parents didn't have to worry about being stopped by the police for the color of their skin, then they had white privilege. My father also had to lay on the ground while a shotgun pointed at the back of his head by Dearborn, MI police because he was coming home from his after school job at night. It's not about wealth, it's about white people being allowed to experience America without a ton of roadblocks simply due to their race.
@@j.baldwin3012 Sorry for your struggle. My father was in Poland when Germany invaded 1939. A teenager of 17. He was held as a slave laborer along with my uncle from 1939 until liberation in 1945. He shared the terror of wondering if he’d be taken away and never heard of again, as so many of his peers were. Many generations of people have had to suffer at the hands of elites. But there were true heroes who have fought to right the wrongs. So on that note I’ll close and try to find fault with someone.
but I am sure you vote for the criminal party that works to destroy this country and put the wealth of the nation in the hands of the rich (Republicans)
Oh no you didn't just say that? I am a baby boomer and was talking with a few old friends from High School recently on FB from my home town. We were talking about how poor we were back in the day living on beans and cornbread and the everyday struggles of not having much. I learned something very interesting that day. One of the guys in our FB chat was a black jock from High School. What he said really opened my eyes. He said "wow I had no idea, I thought just because you were white you had it better than we did because that was what I was taught growing up". We need to do better as a society. I have never seen "white privilege". I have however have seen "rich" privilege. BIG difference. You guys are great tho. I enjoy watching your honesty about life. You can only go by what you have been taught. Keep your minds open and realize that some of what you think has deep seated roots in prejudices from your past generations. Not racism. Prejudice. BIG difference. Never forget that. And for the record very few white people owned slaves. The vast majority of white people did not. Most white people were poor or barely lower middle class with not much money to live on let alone to pass on to the next generation.
You guys speak well and intelligently as if you are 50 years old. That's why I love a channel, not only because of the reactions but also because of the open debate..
Wherever you guys went to school and whoever raised you did an excellent job. Everyone of you takes the time to try to think critically and consider the information. Good to see.
Thank you very much for the candid interaction amongst your group. I have just subscribed to your channel because of your intelligent conversations. I wish you the very best and all the success in the world. I am 60 yr old white guy whose family was on welfare I have a GED and enlisted in the USMC so that I could break the cycle that I was in. I have worked for 45 yrs never taking a dime from the Gov't. I am not rich but not poor just hard working. My point is you get what you put into life. You guys will go far in life for the main fact that you do not blame anyone and just keep moving forward.
Love that you guys can talk about this stuff and think for yourselves. I come from a VERY large, poor white (Irish) family where I literally was related to just about everyone in my town (and it was a town just an hour north of NYC). I definitely always had to work for anything I wanted and my family didn’t have anything but there definitely were, and still are, those who have inherited generational wealth. Love the insight and the discussion!
This has been incredible to watch! I really enjoy and appreciate that y’all took the time to ask each other about their opinion and to support their answers with some sort of backup or explanation. Keep it up!
I grew up in the poor part of Appalachian. We had nothing , dirt floors and no inside plumbing until 1994 . We were poor white trash . I got out by the grace of God. I am 50, successful career. I graduated college at 35 . Its not skin color, we all struggle. I had to claw my way out of the dirt working , sometimes two jobs. I made it ! I had no privilege, and no help. Thank you for being a hope for the young generation, for keeping an open mind, for educating yourself. Be blessed .
I grew up dirt poor, my family was dirt poor, and after tracing my ancestry, I learned my entire family, going back for generations were all poor. And, Im still poor now, lol.
And you still have white privilege bc your skin color never was targeted by the system. There were no laws, policies or rules against your skin that were detrimental to your way of life
@@JADTOThe prejudicial issues of the past are not occurring now. Some of my ancestors were Irish slaves, some were native American, and some were victims of the holocaust. But does that effect my life now, no. The current shade of my skin doesn't change my heritage nor does it mean that my ancestors didn't endure horrific prejudicial and traumatic experiences. Does a mixed person suddenly lose their heritage simply because they aren't as light or dark as someone else? No, of course they don't.
@@lchicks86 its only a big deal cuz the high command wanted an easy point of division. Squabbling amongst ourselves makes us easier to control and manipulate. (Politics is another)
The idea that white people had a 400 year head start would only apply to the rare occurring elite families in the upper upper upper crust that many of us never meet in life. I’m white, all my great grand parents barely survived the dust bowl either in the slums or in the desolate forgotten farms. My grandparents on all sides either picked cotton, fruit, lived in shotgun houses and barely survived the 30s-40s. My parents a mechanic that leaned over a vehicle while the sun was shining, and a mother that put herself through college (first ever) while being a cleaning lady at wealthy homes to get mediocre pay as a grade school teacher. I’m 45 years old and have only met 3 truly privileged people in my life
There's a privilege that we all have .. depending on the situation. I have personally been denied work due to my skin color. Meanwhile, the reason we have more generational wealth and more money is because we're the largest part of the population, since we live in a European settlement. Also, Asians and Indians have more wealth, home ownership, and education than any other group. That being said, I really enjoyed watching a group of young men having an intelligent conversation. Am glad to hear that you all see yourselves as victors and not victims.
All I know, as a white kid that grew up poor and a dominant black area, I got beat up a lot for being white. My state has county tags in it, when I was in high school I would drive to the county below me that is one of the riches county's in the US and would get pulled over all the time. I drove a shit, 94 Ford ranger single cab and would get told the line that there were break-ins in the area and my truck matched the description. Bro, I had no tint in a single cab, Ford Ranger. Amd the searched me everytime. To me, it's more economic than color. Plus, the highest average income one color is Asian. It's a significant amount above white people. I myself who went to 90% black schools ( there were more Asians than white people) I couldn't get anything for college, so i took the poor man's scholarship, the military. Went to school and decided it wasn't for me. Tried to get a job and went 9 months and finally got hired. Knew two guys that got tech skills in prison that got a job way faster and made twice as much money as me. I served 6 years and 3 years in iraq and Afghanistan, honorable discharge, and nothing. hustled to get my own business. Tried to get a business loan and couldn't. Did it myself. My biggest thing with people who grew up with me is don't be a product of your environment and don't be a victim.
I agree with almost all of what you said but being black means some people assume your poor. You mentioned being stoped by the police because your car was trash and they felt like they could get away with it. Black people even with a nice car get pulled over and harassed because they feel like they can get away with it.
I think we're confusing white privilege with class privilege in this conversation. Any person today born into a wealthy family has more privilege than someone who wasn't, regardless of skin color. Whites definitely did get a head start in this country collecting wealth, however a very tiny number of people today are still born into wealth that was gained by slavery. The vast majority of us start out on somewhat of an equal footing. I think the things that determine our level of privilege the most are good upbringing/parenting and education.
As a 61 year old of mostly Norwegian decent, up near the Canadian border in ND, makes Mr Proud, & it gives Me Great Hope yet for Our Country, & World to know that there are Fine Young, Intelligent Men as Yourselves, with good common sense perspectives, that think for themselves, & don't follow the herd, even amongst Yourselves, Your not afraid to have varied opinions, & everyone respects each others without getting offended or upset, as it should be throughout the world, shows Great Character.... keep sharing Your great examples for Your children & others to emulate.... Peace Out.....& Beyond
Try Thomas Sowell, he is not left but rather a well educated and highly intelligent Black Man who is admired by peoples of all races. This man is very matter of fact and does his research.
It's obvious these men are not failures in life. They most likely finished high school and have not been a regular in the criminal justice system. It was a pleasure to hear you guys discuss a difficult topic!!
My son and I had the discussion that racism does exist but each generation I believe after us, will be a better place. We all are just in the trenches, learning everyday how to be better.
How can a white person say racism doesn't exist? Makes no sense whatsoever. If every generation was better we'd have an overall better society but racists pass their hatred down to their kids
Loved hearing a honest assessment of young ,intelligent men .Impressions and personal experiences are important to take into account.Thanks for an open minded discussion keep up the good work.
And here we have what is called 'critical thinking,' a glorious, wonderful shining example that is in short supply today. You, young men, are a breath of fresh air, thank you. I enjoy your channel, your camaraderie, your senses of humor, and your willingness to have open minds to explore the unfamiliar, the new, and perhaps a different perspective on the familiar and old. GOD love you. Peace.
💯 % respect for these young men. Keeping it real, bringing up legit things for their beliefs. God bless these young men, and no doubt they will be successful in everything they do.
I really appreciate your input gentleman. Approaching race relations with an accusatory attitude typically results in regression. Recovering from our dark past starts with realizing and appreciating that we all want the same things in life… to support ourselves, our families and pursue overall happiness. Pointing fingers only leads to further division. We are much stronger together.
The best part of this channel are the discussions afterwards, leaving the camera on while you discuss amongst yourselves and articulate your viewpoints, stumble around and find the the truth. This is the Logos manifesting in real time. Jordan Peterson would be proud.
And class is very much a construct of privilege. Not all the time, but more times than not. Black people were negated the opportunity to grow their family’s wealth FOR CENTURIES. White people were not. That’s one of the many examples of white privilege.
@@dwildhockey24b Really?! So the Irish who were enslaved in this country before black people doesn't count right? Or how about the black Africans that sold other blacks to Europeans that never went past the shore! Learn actual history before you come at me!
I do not like the fact that this wrench has been thrown into this type of forum, can we not just get along, I'm listening to you as I write this, you men are so mature and I really enjoy your page!
I was not born into wealth along with every one else in my community. My grandparents were very wealthy and never helped my parents out. And I didn't see 6 figures in my bank account until I married my husband who also was born poor and from Puerto Rico. He is a Latino man and came here with a dream and worked for it and now he is beyond thriving. I give thanks to God above all things.
I like your comment. I posted something about utilizing resources, that's what's great about America. If you want something better simply go after it, if you fail then ask for advice. there is always someone there to help. Too many people complain like there's impossible road blocks out there, it's not true. Too many people with excuses. you and your husband pounded the pavement and earned what you have, like the good old fashioned American way. That's awesome stuff! Too many lazy people out there can't fathom that even being possible. a shame
I love that y’all actually try to look at things as more than just a yes or no answer. Life is more nuanced than that and I am glad the younger generation understands that and is willing to talk about it in an open intelligent way.
Thanks for having this discussion. My parents were addicts and so was I, I’ve been clean 2 years and am working on a criminal justice degree. I never had a financial head start, everything I’ve accomplished I’ve done on my own, with emotional support from loved ones, sure, but no one handed anything to me. We all have the opportunity to make something of ourselves in the 21st century and the opportunity to build a better and brighter future together. That’s what makes me so sad about all the division and hate I see today
Guys- you give me hope for the future. I grew up in a very diverse city in RI that had a very significant % of the population below the poverty line (~40% on food stamps). I’m a huge hip hop head and was a punk kid in my teenage years. Many of my childhood friends are black, Latino, Asian etc. Never once in the 1990s did ANY of us talk about our “race”. We were all homies. One of my best friends, after Trump was elected, called me and told me that I needed to acknowledge my privilege and that the only reason I’m successful is because I’m white. I was so hurt that my boy literally abandoned our 15+ year friendship with so many amazing memories over this. When I attempted to discuss with him he wasn’t having any of it. He still won’t talk to me to this day. It’s truly heartbreaking… KEEP HAVING these conversations! They are so important for the future. We need you- America needs voices like yours. God bless. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Men - you started doing one thing but what you are doing has begun doing something else, too. To many folks, black culture and normal personalities simply are unavailable to be understood, and that is sad. The vibrancy, hilarity, insight and kindness you display is awesome and welcome everywhere. Please don’t change a thing as you react to a broader set of topics. It’s very entertaining and most welcome.
As a white man I believe we are born into more middle class communities with better opportunities to succeed in life as compared to being born into communities that have extreme poverty levels and little opportunities. As we grow up our fate is in our own hands.
And a huge reason for this is the welfare state, which is the Democrat's doing. It's been said that after pres. LBJ signed welfare and medicaid into law, he said "We'll have those Blacks (he used the n-word) voting Democrat for the next 100 years (some say he said 200). Blacks voted Republican before that, as they were the big push for civil rights/anti-discriminations laws prior.
I’ll also say about white privilege, it’s definitely a stereotype. I’m white, but I had a single mother, went to an underperforming school, was a welfare baby. I was taught the same thing as every other student. I even played on the basketball team where I was like 1 of three white dudes and believe me, I heard the word “White boy” more times than I wanted to.
You young men are something else! Love you guys! My personal opinion, coming from a 46 year old white dude, I totally think White Privilege is a thing that continues to this day. Would love to say more, but this isn’t the platform. Keep killing it guys! Love how much y’all have grown and expanded your ear and mind when it comes to music and pop culture. And the fact y’all have no problem asking questions and looking things up.
@@ilikebeets9600 I think the lack of those things for Blacks is more about the welfare state (including inferior education) than anything else. It's been around for 60 years, so it will be hard to undo the damage of "throw a check at the problem and call it good and taken care off" which has been the Democrat party's thinking for a long while (and it gets them their votes, which is the ultimate goal as voiced by pres. LBJ after the signing of the welfare/medicaid bills).
Y’all seem like some cool ass dudes honestly. Able to have a discussion about a topic without coming at each others heads. It’s guys like you that would enjoy friendship with. Don’t let the establishment and the media divide us brothers. We are Americans and we bleed the same color. Don’t matter our race or creed, more often than not our opportunity it’s based on merit. Keep up the content my friends
Great response guys. I wanna see everybody succeed that makes a effort.Individual behaviors and actions and good decisions make all the difference between success and failure.couple those things with work ethic and boom your gonna make it.Carry on good sirs
I’m a white woman who grew up in the ghetto with drug addict parents that didn’t even raise me. I grew up and struggled daily to get ahead or even be on the level of others. It’s not about black or white.. it’s about money. I broke that cycle and now have 4 educated, successful, and most importantly THANKFUL children. They saw my struggle and it drove them harder to be better. If you change the way you look at things.. the things you look at change
My story is very similar.. I can’t imagine how many thousands and thousands and thousands are just like that and are white. I got no money from my parents after they were gone or anything. Blacks always love to say that we have generational wealth.? we are talking about a small percentage of white people that have that and enough money. In the end in my opinion, that so many blacks are the way they are is their own fault. It’s just that simple. Obviously some really have been screwed over but many whites have been screwed over also in different situations and so have other races.
Stfu when u walk out ur house u whiteness is a privilege
Yep. Had an upper middle class alcoholic dad who abused us so much I left at sixteen and worked three jobs to get through college and 60-80 hours since. Its all about class and race is part of that, but not the main issue.
While your success is to be congratulated and should be celebrated, there’s certainly a case to be made that from a developmental and an economic perspective, your deficit from conception is less than it would be had you been a person of color. That’s not to take a single thing, feeling or hardship from your struggle, one that you’ve overcome and succeeded in spite of, but we don’t all start the race of life at the same position. That’s the core element of equity versus equality. Acknowledging this and working to understand the difference is the next step in our societal development.
Absolutely correct. Good for you.
I'm sick of people calling accomplishments, things we earn with blood , sweat and tears, "privilege"...everyone in my family works their ass off to be where they are , nothing has been handed to them or myself .
I don't think anyone who beats that drum is really trying to take anything away from people like that. It's always been about the realization of chances. Most white families have generational wealth/land. It's just a fact. Most white families have higher credit rating giving better options for school. It's just a fact. Most white families aren't born into a lifestyle that corrupts them from the start. Another fact. You can argue all day that we are what we make of ourselves...but if the roles we reversed.. It would still be the same argument and fight. It's not about blame... it's about a portion of our countrymen that have been left behind for years while others were able to thrive. Has nothing to do with the working class... at all.
@Jonathan Lantzy that right there is the mind set that is the problem and the reason why racial animosity is on
the rise. Paint a whole color of people as better than others. Do some areas have a harder time than others? Sure. Doesn't mean one should look down on them nor should they paint a whole color of people as having some invisible privilege. By the way, Indians per capita are the richest demographic in the US followed by Asians most of whom came to the US with nothing and within a generation make it to on average middle class.
@@jonathanlantzy7526 Is it really MOST white families? Is there a statistic on that you con point me to? I haven't met most white families, so I can't speak from direct experience. Only the ones I know. And so what you are describing (generational wealth, higher credit ratings, born into non-corrupted upbringing) isn't the norm among the white families I know. I'd love to be exposed to the statistics going on across the board. Thanks!
@@andrewespinoza2896 That amazing. I love that kind of success story.
@@jonathanlantzy7526 what do you say about Nigerians? They make good money and don’t have the mindset that you speak of.
As a 52 year old Caucasian woman I must tell all of you that you give me hope for the future of our country!! ❤️❤️
“You can’t go out and act a certain way that’s not respectable and get mad when people don’t respect you” is legit one of the best lines I’ve ever heard. I’m stealing that shit.
My white father picked cotton. My white mother was a housekeeper for wealthy people. Generational wealth never existed in my family. Just a little insight. Love y'alls channel!
Yes!! Generational wealth does not apply to all white families. My grandmother picked cotton and her family was dirt poor and the other came here as immigrants with only what they could carry in a suitcase.
my Grandma had to quit school to pick cotton... many of my distant relatives were pickers... they traveled to different states to pick... the entire family did it.
Yo why does everyone think white privilege means we all had money? That is not what is means. There are a ton of poor white people, too. No shit. That doesn't mean their life wouldn't have been even harder if they were black or native. Take your brain meds grandpa
@@bradbradford8576 I know the difference. I was commenting to the gentleman in the video who literally said "maybe generational wealth [is white privilege]". You are so quick to be nasty to a stranger when you clearly didn't pay attention to the video or why the subject matter was being discussed. I'll pray for you.
@@as7326 +1, sadly the emotion and hysteria attached to these topics is how we get off-track. The Cartier Family videos are so interesting because they have passion but forgoe the hysteria.
I’m a Conservative Republican and your debates and own analysis on topics and termination is astounding! I’m very impressed with the maturity and diligence for a very young group but very wise beyond your years! Keep up the great work your doing but don’t let society dictate how you feel and want to express as long as it doesn’t infringe on others rights! You gentleman have made a fan and a subscriber!
“Liberty is meaningless where the right to utter one’s thoughts and opinions has ceased to exist.
--Fredrick Douglas One of the founding members of the Republican Abolitionist party…
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
--Thomas Jefferson
As a Mexican male, I’m glad to see everyone hear keeping it 💯 instead of playing the “minority victim” that the racist white liberal wants us to be. Big ups and thank you for being a true voice. Keep it up 💪🏽
Nailed it with the racist white liberal. I noticed the projection white liberals have
Así es !
I'm a Mexican descent and I pray everyday that the Latinos don't fall for all this woke sh!t...
@@melvindude Same.
Lots racists conservatives.
If you guys represent the thought process of most of our youth, it gives me hope for the future. You’re thoughtful, rational, and honest. No political hysterics. And I love that you emphasize personal responsibility, personal behavior and hard work. Love your channel! Proud of you boys ❤️
Agreed. Well said. I'd love it if their attitude became contagious.
they do. the far "left" and also the far "right" is a minority. they are just loud.
I think they are more of an exception than rule. Another thing that is even if someone doesn't really believe something they will still argue for it because it benefits them.
the sad reality is that most youth don't think the way these guys do. Most kids choose to believe that they are victims and don't even work to better themselves.
Love how you guys discuss a range of topics that experts have weighed in on, you are all educating yourselves so well and I respect this discussion forum.
What I love about yall is you actually think about stuff. You don't cowtow to one side or the other for clout or views. Thanks for keeping it a buck, fellas.
But honestly, these people will fall victim to the grift. Because low iq people automatically fall for word salad if bigger words are used. There’s no nuance. That’s why right leaning influencers will tell us to shame intellect. To keep us dumbed down. For instance, Ben Shapiro’s biggest “gotcha moment” was “why are black people 13% of the population but commit 50% of the crimes.” Then says it’s culture. But where’s the nuance? If it was culture, then why do more black people want police in the neighborhood than don’t? It’s obviously not black culture to commit crimes. So why is there so much crime? That’s where the nuance is supposed to come in. There’s many reasons. For one, there’s like a million more cops placed in black communities than white communities…so more crimes are gonna be investigated and exposed than in white communities. And you can’t say they were placed there because of crime because more police have been dispatched to the black community back during Jim Crowe when the black community was super Christian and didn’t actually commit crimes. But still more cops were placed there with intentions to arrest black people to keep the community’s population from outgrowing the white, which would cause more black homes to be a necessity, which would push the black community closer to the white community. We literally had a president (I forget which one) who said something along the lines of “since we can’t make being black a crime, we can…dot dot dot” (I forget the rest but look it up) also, redlining was a racist institutionalized policy which kept black people from benefiting off owning a home that would increase in value. And everyone knows back then buying a home was a great investment for the family’s finances. But blacks were forced into ghettos and low value areas that would only decrease in value over time. Also, the constitution once made a black man’s vote 33% of a white persons vote. So it would take 3 black votes to equal 1 white vote. So how could they possibly have voted in politicians that would fight to amend those racist policies and amendments? So those racist policies remained for years causing the black community’s economy to plateau. And it’s the reason why there’s still all blacks ghettos today. Because it’s taking longer to catch up. This causing poverty which caused mental illness which causes crimes. There’s so much nuance but Shapiro chops it up to “culture” it’s word salad.
Also I just reread my comment and it sounds like I’m calling these Cartier family guys low iq. Definitely didn’t mean it like that. But the right uses buzzwords and talking points that will keep your depth of thought at surface level and that’s no good. And social right becoming pop culture shows that millions of people don’t have the depth of thought to realize these conservative influencers are lying without actually saying lies. Just bad faithed statements that brainwash you into thinking irrationally.
@James Doakes I'm not sure I 100% agree with you there, James. The president you're thinking of was Richard Nixon, and it's why he started the drug war--for votes. Everyone's been caught up in it since.
Black people didn't have 3/5 of a vote, *slaves* had no vote at all and were considered 3/5 of a person for purposes of the census. With the exception of today's policing, all the policies you're talking about are from the pre-civil rights era, which is what Ben Shapiro is pointing out, why are outcomes worse now than back then? What I would say is Ben Shapiro doesn't get everything right, and he's obviously an ideologue, which does generally suck in a large number of non-thinkers.
The whole racism thing is the greatest trick the devil ever pulled IMO. For one it, makes it a lot harder to play a game if you're constantly told the deck is stacked against you. For another, when things get broken down into black and white, people with similar interests and problems are too busy fighting over whether or not it's a black and white thing to link arms and go at the actual problem, diluting the power of both. Black people have been historically oppressed, which is why black people are a target for the system, but black people aren't the only target. While black people are over-represented, the *majority* of people in jail, on welfare, killed by the police, don't graduate high school, etc. are white. In terms of making things better, what sense does it make to divide those groups up by race? 🤔
Come to the mountains of Va, Ky, Tn,Nc, and Wva and you will see plenty of poor white people.
As an old white dude, I can honestly say I was never taught to be racsist or disrepectful to ANYBODY. Nor did the concept of white priviledge ever cross my mind. Did I have it? I don't know. Maybe. But it does my heart good when I hear you guys honestly say you feel the playing field has leveled for you. Best to all of you.
Demonrats are brainwashing everyone back to the 19th century, but in reverse. It is disgusting. I agree with you.
Well said. Same for me.
Yes you were you liar.
@@cheeky7036 As a fellow old white dude, if you don't know, then yes you had it (and you still do). Part of, if not most of, white privilege is that you don't know--that's the privilege. I didn't know either. I married a woman of color. Still didn't know. Was with her for many years. I still didn't know. Then one day, we got pulled over by police. I was driving. Cop was white. I was pissed. It was a cheap.. 50 in a 40, but where I was pulled over, sign raising the limit from 40 to 50 was visible, maybe 1/4 mile away. It was the end of the month. Quotas. Technically, I was 10 over. But still, cheap ticket. During the experience, only thought in my mind was, is this guy giving me a warning, or is he actually going to give me this cheap-ass ticket. I got the ticket, I was pissed. I let him know what I thought. When he left, I looked over, and my wife was crying. Completely different experience for her. Took me a long time and many conversations to understand why. For me, police pulling me over = ticket or warning. Those are the only options. For her, there where other options: humiliation, beating, death. Those options had never occurred to me, because they don't apply to me. Not because I wasn't guilty -- I was 10 over. But because I was white. White privilege has nothing to do with how you, as an individual white dude, sees race. Its about how society sees you, versus how it sees people who are not white. Its very easy to get defensive -- I'm not racist. That's great, but not the point, and not enough.
@@williambooth8728 so let me get this straight, it's stereotyping and placing people into neat little boxes based on their skin?
What about those of us with ZERO generational wealth?
I love that you youngbloods are having this conversation. You all had well thought out and rational stances. Proud of y’all.
But why is it only black people talking about white privilege?
No offense to these guys at all.
*Young Men
@@spikea.3547 Black twitter are the ones who claim white privilege is affecting their day-to-day lives so I’m assuming that’s why
@@spikea.3547 One it's not really only black people. But who else are.you referring to? Other white people or other people of color?
@@slipstreammonkey it was eight days ago and I don't remember exactly how I meant it.. but I'm still wondering after being white for 64 years what does privilege is, and why only black people can see it
Bro I appreciate how open minded you guys are but there’s a lot of white people who don’t have generational wealth. Everything I have I did myself. I had nothing my mom had nothing. I think we should all sit back and just appreciate we have the ability to work as hard as we need as humans to get where we want to go in life. We all need to take responsibility and show more love.
Not even 'a lot' of white people, let be honest. Almost none. That kind of wealth is very rare.
Just look at Appalachia
He’s repeating left wing talking points. It’s not his fault. Once he starts being honest and looks at the data he’ll understand how ignorant he is.
Yeah my family came as refugees from ww2 with nothing. I still get blamed for slavery lol. Most of my ancestors died in forced labor camps. Im envious of slaves, at least they were considered an investment. Your life at least had value of some sort. What a privlege from my point of view. Id much rather be a slave than exterminated as vermin.
@@nullakjg767 you rather be a slave... You really don't know what you are typing lol.
This was a very good conversation fellas. I love that you are trying to get it all out there. Keep up the good work. You're all doing a very good job with this channel.
I'm impressed by you young men. Spread the word.
Thomas Sowell is THE man. You really need to follow up on him.
Totally agree! This Joe Rogan introduction to Thomas Sowell is mind blowing.
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Yes
I agree. I love him.
Sadly, many would rather listen to race hustlers and race baiters instead of brilliant individuals such as Thomas Sowell who grow up in the Jim Crow era and went on to become very successful.
I 100% agree.
I was a cop for 20 years and its great to hear you guys speak about this. Especially about self image.. I dealt with that a lot and unfortunately humans judge people on appearance. On all beginnings and endings of the spectrum, we all can be judged by the way we conduct ourselves. There is a standard we should all conduct ourselves, its called morals. I am so happy that you guys are not blinded by the news and false narratives that the government and the classism crowd wants us to believe. As a people when we are united we are an unstoppable force so they have divide us. The quickest way to do that is use race and oppression. This is also why they are trying to ultimately take away our guns. If we keep our minds truly informed our families armed then the government cant take our rights by thoughts or force.
I love listening to these guys, it reminds me of my time in the military. They’re just super real and it’s cool too see so many different levels of opinions try and actually understand what our popular issues are. I’m just a middle aged, white woman living with her dog and this shakes up my usually boring day.
I have been white for 42 years... and NEVER have I had privilege!! Trust me... you guys have done WAY BETTER in life in 20+ years than I have in 42... and you guys are black! It's a matter of your own actions... not your skin color! You guys are awesome.. stay that way!!
What do you think they mean by "privilege"?
@@kathypop4 I know what they mean.. I just used 1 example! Ok.. I have been stopped and harassed by cops at least 30 times in my life.. I bet they can't say the same! Just difference in actions.. not skin color!! Not most of the time! There are other examples.. but if your not smart enough to get what I was saying.. I can explain it to you further if you need! 😊
@@chrispruett81 You didn't answer my question whatsoever...
@@kathypop4 Then I guess.. I don't know how to lower my intelligence to awnser your stupid question! Sorry! 😝
@@chrispruett81 What an idiot😂 You didn't answer my question you gave me an irrelevant anecdote. There was nothing intelligent about your comment
Thank you all for your open mindedness. You’re truly level headed, intelligent guys who don’t buy into unsubstantiated propaganda that’s being fed to us as Americans to keep us divided. We can overcome together irregardless of skin color. Keep doing what you’re doing!
Most refreshing conversation I've heard in a long time. The small minority of black people, who unfortunately have the loudest voice, are those who aren't as well considered as you guys. And that's what causes rifts between society.
We need more people like you guys.
I appreciate you guys trying to be open minded. I love your videos. You guys are a joy to watch.
The privilege is having two parents that did everything they could to make sure their children had the best opportunity to succeed.
So true. I am white and had two narcissistic parents. I have always been jealous of people with healthy parents no matter their color. I would trade places in a millisecond.
Which is something that should extend past race, but unfortunately it’s become socially acceptable in a lot of cultures
Athlete privilege is most certainly a thing
I so appreciate you all just having an honest conversation about such a touchy topic. We need more of this!
You guys are in the right track. I’m all for the comment of you forming a corporation. You are what this country needs. Keep the discussions going! You are the best influence on minds I’ve seen.
This is why I like watching you guys, you have good conversations with giving your opinions and not sitting on the fence.
You guys are definitely a breath of fresh air. Nothing or nobody is going to dictate who you are or what you are. Keep thriving & keep that positive mindset. ♥️🤗
You mean they don't openly go against your narrative
"You guys are definitely a breath of fresh air" - until the end of the video 😂 Love these guys!
Would they also be a breath of fresh air if this were a video about how white privilege is real? I'll make as assumption here but I'm guessing you typically disagree with the general black communities stances on things which is why this is so nice for you to see.
@@michaell8184 more like they're not following the sheep mentality that most people on Twitter, Reddit, Hollywood and CNN follow. They believe in their ideologies and are thinking on their own.
Hey guys, I’m a poor white , as a child, my black friends and school mates had more opportunities than I did! God bless you guys 🙏🇺🇸🙏
These guys should be our future congressmen. Reason why is that they are open-minded. They think for themselves. period. Great job guys. Love your content!
Congress reacts to Joe Rogan. That sounds kinda fire lol
I love that you guys go and do your own research and form your own opinions. You guys go into everything with an open mind. I love your videos
Love you guys discussing this! I love Ben, he’s right on target, as usual. Thank you for the share! ♥️
Smart, thoughtful, funny, honest, respectful & willing to have difficult conversations…these young men are amazing ❤
Your conversations are awesome! I like how you all listen to each other. Great stuff.
Brandon feels that he was afforded the same opportunities as everyone else and the other 4 agreed. The truth is that all 5 of them are athletes who’ve been afforded a level a privilege because of their athletic prowess. That’s a key difference that I hope age and more life experience will help them realize.
You 5 young men need to form a corporation. Put together a forum and begin lecturing at schools and other organizations. You will be in such demand. I truly feel that the 5 of you can bring this entire country together. You are logical, honest and entertaining with your messages. All the while presenting yourselves as real men, which is what we need more of. Very well done! Btw...I would approve a loan for any one of you!
I have high expectations for each of you guys. Such smart conversation. I always enjoy your reactions. You're my fav!
I must say, yalls parents did an amazing job on raising all of yall. Bravo!!!
I 💗 the Real discussion among you guys! I’m here for it to hear your opinions & perspectives. So glad that you kept it running & didn’t edit anything out. This is what we need in the world to make our communities better where we actually listen to each other instead of only hearing static. Keep being your genuine selves & life will keep rewarding you.❤❤
Thank you for the conversation. Generational wealth was granted to fewer rather more. Many white people immigrated with nothing. I’m a second generation from an immigrant, who came to the US after WW2. We were poor. Had enough for food and shelter but that’s it. When my folks died there was no inheritance. I have worked since my teen years.
My great grandparents moved to the North after WW2 because a black man had been lynched in their neighborhood, but the whole family couldn't come at once because the police in the white part of town would stop them and arrest them on some trumped up charges. They also couldn't walk through the white part of town to get to the train station, or walk along the train tracks because that was considered a crime, so a couple at a time the family had to be driven out so as not to raise suspicion. If your parents didn't have to worry about being stopped by the police for the color of their skin, then they had white privilege. My father also had to lay on the ground while a shotgun pointed at the back of his head by Dearborn, MI police because he was coming home from his after school job at night. It's not about wealth, it's about white people being allowed to experience America without a ton of roadblocks simply due to their race.
@@j.baldwin3012 Sorry for your struggle. My father was in Poland when Germany invaded 1939. A teenager of 17. He was held as a slave laborer along with my uncle from 1939 until liberation in 1945. He shared the terror of wondering if he’d be taken away and never heard of again, as so many of his peers were. Many generations of people have had to suffer at the hands of elites. But there were true heroes who have fought to right the wrongs. So on that note I’ll close and try to find fault with someone.
but I am sure you vote for the criminal party that works to destroy this country and put the wealth of the nation in the hands of the rich (Republicans)
@@j.baldwin3012 white privilege is a crutch used by people who dont want to put the work into bettering their own life
Oh no you didn't just say that? I am a baby boomer and was talking with a few old friends from High School recently on FB from my home town. We were talking about how poor we were back in the day living on beans and cornbread and the everyday struggles of not having much. I learned something very interesting that day. One of the guys in our FB chat was a black jock from High School. What he said really opened my eyes. He said "wow I had no idea, I thought just because you were white you had it better than we did because that was what I was taught growing up". We need to do better as a society. I have never seen "white privilege". I have however have seen "rich" privilege. BIG difference. You guys are great tho. I enjoy watching your honesty about life. You can only go by what you have been taught. Keep your minds open and realize that some of what you think has deep seated roots in prejudices from your past generations. Not racism. Prejudice. BIG difference. Never forget that. And for the record very few white people owned slaves. The vast majority of white people did not. Most white people were poor or barely lower middle class with not much money to live on let alone to pass on to the next generation.
You guys speak well and intelligently as if you are 50 years old. That's why I love a channel, not only because of the reactions but also because of the open debate..
no they dont
Racist
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You're "Clearly" an Intellectual!
[Sarcasm] if You were confused.
Translation: You're black people who make me feel less bad about having beliefs that most people see as wildlyy racist.
@@JoeKnows44 lol bingo!! This section is filled with all these comments! Thanks for calling it out
Wherever you guys went to school and whoever raised you did an excellent job. Everyone of you takes the time to try to think critically and consider the information. Good to see.
Thank you very much for the candid interaction amongst your group. I have just subscribed to your channel because of your intelligent conversations. I wish you the very best and all the success in the world. I am 60 yr old white guy whose family was on welfare I have a GED and enlisted in the USMC so that I could break the cycle that I was in. I have worked for 45 yrs never taking a dime from the Gov't. I am not rich but not poor just hard working. My point is you get what you put into life. You guys will go far in life for the main fact that you do not blame anyone and just keep moving forward.
Wow. These kids are so impressive. Smart, sharp, honest.
Their parents should be extremely proud.
INDEED!
cringe
@@glorioustrump245stop projecting
@@dexterdahmer lol what, if your take from this video is their parents should be so proud thats cringe
@@glorioustrump245 all I said was stop projecting 😂
Love that you guys can talk about this stuff and think for yourselves. I come from a VERY large, poor white (Irish) family where I literally was related to just about everyone in my town (and it was a town just an hour north of NYC). I definitely always had to work for anything I wanted and my family didn’t have anything but there definitely were, and still are, those who have inherited generational wealth. Love the insight and the discussion!
Tulsi Gabbard has been a Democrat until recently and she isn’t crazy
This has been incredible to watch! I really enjoy and appreciate that y’all took the time to ask each other about their opinion and to support their answers with some sort of backup or explanation. Keep it up!
I grew up in the poor part of Appalachian. We had nothing , dirt floors and no inside plumbing until 1994 . We were poor white trash . I got out by the grace of God. I am 50, successful career. I graduated college at 35 . Its not skin color, we all struggle. I had to claw my way out of the dirt working , sometimes two jobs. I made it ! I had no privilege, and no help. Thank you for being a hope for the young generation, for keeping an open mind, for educating yourself. Be blessed .
You guys are the future! I’m not a big Shapiro fan per se but I love the nuanced conversation that came of it. Respect!
I grew up dirt poor, my family was dirt poor, and after tracing my ancestry, I learned my entire family, going back for generations were all poor. And, Im still poor now, lol.
And you still have white privilege bc your skin color never was targeted by the system. There were no laws, policies or rules against your skin that were detrimental to your way of life
@@JADTOThe prejudicial issues of the past are not occurring now. Some of my ancestors were Irish slaves, some were native American, and some were victims of the holocaust. But does that effect my life now, no. The current shade of my skin doesn't change my heritage nor does it mean that my ancestors didn't endure horrific prejudicial and traumatic experiences. Does a mixed person suddenly lose their heritage simply because they aren't as light or dark as someone else? No, of course they don't.
@@lchicks86 its only a big deal cuz the high command wanted an easy point of division. Squabbling amongst ourselves makes us easier to control and manipulate. (Politics is another)
@@kathleensarmiento932 Exactly
The idea that white people had a 400 year head start would only apply to the rare occurring elite families in the upper upper upper crust that many of us never meet in life. I’m white, all my great grand parents barely survived the dust bowl either in the slums or in the desolate forgotten farms. My grandparents on all sides either picked cotton, fruit, lived in shotgun houses and barely survived the 30s-40s. My parents a mechanic that leaned over a vehicle while the sun was shining, and a mother that put herself through college (first ever) while being a cleaning lady at wealthy homes to get mediocre pay as a grade school teacher. I’m 45 years old and have only met 3 truly privileged people in my life
There's a privilege that we all have .. depending on the situation. I have personally been denied work due to my skin color. Meanwhile, the reason we have more generational wealth and more money is because we're the largest part of the population, since we live in a European settlement. Also, Asians and Indians have more wealth, home ownership, and education than any other group. That being said, I really enjoyed watching a group of young men having an intelligent conversation. Am glad to hear that you all see yourselves as victors and not victims.
Not true
@@samcaranol4102 white privileged
White people use to burn down black communities that were on the rise. Look up black Wallstreet.
@@JJ-vr7gl doesn’t exist lol blacks and other non whites have more privilege than whites. Take responsibility for your own problems.
@@dabears3240 lmao 😂 sure
All I know, as a white kid that grew up poor and a dominant black area, I got beat up a lot for being white. My state has county tags in it, when I was in high school I would drive to the county below me that is one of the riches county's in the US and would get pulled over all the time. I drove a shit, 94 Ford ranger single cab and would get told the line that there were break-ins in the area and my truck matched the description. Bro, I had no tint in a single cab, Ford Ranger. Amd the searched me everytime. To me, it's more economic than color. Plus, the highest average income one color is Asian. It's a significant amount above white people. I myself who went to 90% black schools ( there were more Asians than white people) I couldn't get anything for college, so i took the poor man's scholarship, the military. Went to school and decided it wasn't for me. Tried to get a job and went 9 months and finally got hired. Knew two guys that got tech skills in prison that got a job way faster and made twice as much money as me. I served 6 years and 3 years in iraq and Afghanistan, honorable discharge, and nothing. hustled to get my own business. Tried to get a business loan and couldn't. Did it myself. My biggest thing with people who grew up with me is don't be a product of your environment and don't be a victim.
I agree with almost all of what you said but being black means some people assume your poor. You mentioned being stoped by the police because your car was trash and they felt like they could get away with it. Black people even with a nice car get pulled over and harassed because they feel like they can get away with it.
I think we're confusing white privilege with class privilege in this conversation. Any person today born into a wealthy family has more privilege than someone who wasn't, regardless of skin color. Whites definitely did get a head start in this country collecting wealth, however a very tiny number of people today are still born into wealth that was gained by slavery. The vast majority of us start out on somewhat of an equal footing. I think the things that determine our level of privilege the most are good upbringing/parenting and education.
I thank you so much for your perspectives! You are helping to bring us together and destroy stereotypes, regardless of what those stereotypes may be!
Bill Maher is the only leftist I know who makes any sense these days.
Bill Maher is a libertarian who supports those ideas that serve him. Nothing “leftist” about him.
Funny thing is I have to agree.
..it's probably because Maher has moved more towards the Right ;)
I agree that Maher is very good, I would also add Jon Stewart to that very short list. Both are biased but usually not too extremely.
Ana Kasparin makes sense
I truly enjoy watching y’all’s content. The discussions are always balanced and thoughtful. You’re using your intelligence. Good stuff!
Love listening to these guys talk about real shit
As a 61 year old of mostly Norwegian decent, up near the Canadian border in ND, makes Mr Proud, & it gives Me Great Hope yet for Our Country, & World to know that there are Fine Young, Intelligent Men as Yourselves, with good common sense perspectives, that think for themselves, & don't follow the herd, even amongst Yourselves, Your not afraid to have varied opinions, & everyone respects each others without getting offended or upset, as it should be throughout the world, shows Great Character.... keep sharing Your great examples for Your children & others to emulate....
Peace Out.....& Beyond
Try Thomas Sowell, he is not left but rather a well educated and highly intelligent Black Man who is admired by peoples of all races. This man is very matter of fact and does his research.
He is beyond Amazing.
It's obvious these men are not failures in life. They most likely finished high school and have not been a regular in the criminal justice system. It was a pleasure to hear you guys discuss a difficult topic!!
You gents are awesome… spread the truth and educate!
My son and I had the discussion that racism does exist but each generation I believe after us, will be a better place. We all are just in the trenches, learning everyday how to be better.
How can a white person say racism doesn't exist? Makes no sense whatsoever. If every generation was better we'd have an overall better society but racists pass their hatred down to their kids
The fact that even this Generation racism still exist it means racism can actually exist for years or decades or more.
Loved hearing a honest assessment of young ,intelligent men .Impressions and personal experiences are important to take into account.Thanks for an open minded discussion keep up the good work.
You guys are promoting peace, harmony, brotherly love etc. Respects! ☺️
And here we have what is called 'critical thinking,' a glorious, wonderful shining example that is in short supply today. You, young men, are a breath of fresh air, thank you. I enjoy your channel, your camaraderie, your senses of humor, and your willingness to have open minds to explore the unfamiliar, the new, and perhaps a different perspective on the familiar and old. GOD love you. Peace.
I see hope in this generation thanks to you gentlemen. Such an excellent and thought-provoking conversation. Appreciate you guys. God Bless.
I'm Mexican and worked my ass off for what I have. I'm not gonna handicap my kids by telling them that you have to be white in order to have things.
💯 % respect for these young men. Keeping it real, bringing up legit things for their beliefs. God bless these young men, and no doubt they will be successful in everything they do.
I really appreciate your input gentleman. Approaching race relations with an accusatory attitude typically results in regression. Recovering from our dark past starts with realizing and appreciating that we all want the same things in life… to support ourselves, our families and pursue overall happiness. Pointing fingers only leads to further division. We are much stronger together.
The best part of this channel are the discussions afterwards, leaving the camera on while you discuss amongst yourselves and articulate your viewpoints, stumble around and find the the truth. This is the Logos manifesting in real time. Jordan Peterson would be proud.
love your honest and openminded conversations. Keep it up guys
Do Thomas Sowell please 🤯
Yes!
Almost forgot, I grew up learning a lot of what Mr. Sowell shared was taught here.
Enjoyed the conversation fellas - well done
It's not about color! It's about class!
The top 1% is worse off than the middle class
And class is very much a construct of privilege. Not all the time, but more times than not. Black people were negated the opportunity to grow their family’s wealth FOR CENTURIES. White people were not. That’s one of the many examples of white privilege.
Lol. Ok.
@@dwildhockey24b Really?! So the Irish who were enslaved in this country before black people doesn't count right? Or how about the black Africans that sold other blacks to Europeans that never went past the shore! Learn actual history before you come at me!
Love the great talk! Thanks!
I do not like the fact that this wrench has been thrown into this type of forum, can we not just get along, I'm listening to you as I write this, you men are so mature and I really enjoy your page!
I appreciate you're collective perspective. An excellent group of personalities. Thanks Gentlemen
I was not born into wealth along with every one else in my community. My grandparents were very wealthy and never helped my parents out. And I didn't see 6 figures in my bank account until I married my husband who also was born poor and from Puerto Rico. He is a Latino man and came here with a dream and worked for it and now he is beyond thriving. I give thanks to God above all things.
I like your comment. I posted something about utilizing resources, that's what's great about America. If you want something better simply go after it, if you fail then ask for advice. there is always someone there to help. Too many people complain like there's impossible road blocks out there, it's not true. Too many people with excuses.
you and your husband pounded the pavement and earned what you have, like the good old fashioned American way. That's awesome stuff!
Too many lazy people out there can't fathom that even being possible. a shame
As a white guy who grew up poor, and as a Slavic descendant, I appreciate your views and love hearing your discussions.
I love that y’all actually try to look at things as more than just a yes or no answer. Life is more nuanced than that and I am glad the younger generation understands that and is willing to talk about it in an open intelligent way.
Thanks for having this discussion. My parents were addicts and so was I, I’ve been clean 2 years and am working on a criminal justice degree. I never had a financial head start, everything I’ve accomplished I’ve done on my own, with emotional support from loved ones, sure, but no one handed anything to me. We all have the opportunity to make something of ourselves in the 21st century and the opportunity to build a better and brighter future together. That’s what makes me so sad about all the division and hate I see today
We need more people like y'all
Man I wish I had generational wealth! My parents worked two jobs and our bills still went unpaid sometimes.
Guys- you give me hope for the future. I grew up in a very diverse city in RI that had a very significant % of the population below the poverty line (~40% on food stamps). I’m a huge hip hop head and was a punk kid in my teenage years. Many of my childhood friends are black, Latino, Asian etc. Never once in the 1990s did ANY of us talk about our “race”. We were all homies. One of my best friends, after Trump was elected, called me and told me that I needed to acknowledge my privilege and that the only reason I’m successful is because I’m white. I was so hurt that my boy literally abandoned our 15+ year friendship with so many amazing memories over this. When I attempted to discuss with him he wasn’t having any of it. He still won’t talk to me to this day. It’s truly heartbreaking…
KEEP HAVING these conversations! They are so important for the future. We need you- America needs voices like yours. God bless. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
whites were not the only slave owners .
You realize you five guys got more sense than ninety-nine percent of our government employees.
Men - you started doing one thing but what you are doing has begun doing something else, too. To many folks, black culture and normal personalities simply are unavailable to be understood, and that is sad. The vibrancy, hilarity, insight and kindness you display is awesome and welcome everywhere. Please don’t change a thing as you react to a broader set of topics. It’s very entertaining and most welcome.
I listen to Ben everyday 🔥
All of you should continue have great lives. Keeping your hearts open & away from they victom mindset is a big part of success in life.
As a white man I believe we are born into more middle class communities with better opportunities to succeed in life as compared to being born into communities that have extreme poverty levels and little opportunities. As we grow up our fate is in our own hands.
And a huge reason for this is the welfare state, which is the Democrat's doing. It's been said that after pres. LBJ signed welfare and medicaid into law, he said "We'll have those Blacks (he used the n-word) voting Democrat for the next 100 years (some say he said 200). Blacks voted Republican before that, as they were the big push for civil rights/anti-discriminations laws prior.
Do anything by Thomas Sowell
Dude on the right head might explode 🤣
Agreed
Thomas Sowell is a genius and an American treasure.
The woke mob should really stop bringing up skin color. Diversity won't bring is unity, it's unity that will bring us unity.
I’ll also say about white privilege, it’s definitely a stereotype. I’m white, but I had a single mother, went to an underperforming school, was a welfare baby. I was taught the same thing as every other student. I even played on the basketball team where I was like 1 of three white dudes and believe me, I heard the word “White boy” more times than I wanted to.
You young men are something else! Love you guys! My personal opinion, coming from a 46 year old white dude, I totally think White Privilege is a thing that continues to this day. Would love to say more, but this isn’t the platform. Keep killing it guys! Love how much y’all have grown and expanded your ear and mind when it comes to music and pop culture. And the fact y’all have no problem asking questions and looking things up.
I’m white. Could you please point me in the right direction to get some of the so called white privilege you say is a thing. Thanks.
@@alambyant 1. Housing 2. Employment 3. Legal System
So are you saying that black people are inherently second class citizens just because of their skin color?
@@ilikebeets9600 I think the lack of those things for Blacks is more about the welfare state (including inferior education) than anything else. It's been around for 60 years, so it will be hard to undo the damage of "throw a check at the problem and call it good and taken care off" which has been the Democrat party's thinking for a long while (and it gets them their votes, which is the ultimate goal as voiced by pres. LBJ after the signing of the welfare/medicaid bills).
@@jameerobama8951 I’m not saying that
Y’all seem like some cool ass dudes honestly. Able to have a discussion about a topic without coming at each others heads. It’s guys like you that would enjoy friendship with. Don’t let the establishment and the media divide us brothers. We are Americans and we bleed the same color. Don’t matter our race or creed, more often than not our opportunity it’s based on merit. Keep up the content my friends
Great response guys. I wanna see everybody succeed that makes a effort.Individual behaviors and actions and good decisions make all the difference between success and failure.couple those things with work ethic and boom your gonna make it.Carry on good sirs