The History of ROBLOX's Stolen Assets
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มิ.ย. 2024
- At one point, ROBLOX was almost entirely built out of stolen clipart. This is the story behind those assets, and how they slowly evolved out of this stage.
• sections...
0:00 Intro
1:00 "Oof sound" dispute
2:07 Gear sounds, and freesound.org
3:44 The skybox, "null_plainsky"
4:19 A game made of clipart
5:13 Eyeless baby jumpscare's origin
6:20 Icons & logos
7:00 How to get away with stealing icons
8:52 Outro
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Since this video is getting a lot of attention again, let me clarify a few things.
I should have clarified initially which assets were under creative commons licensing, but it's clear the developers at the time didn't care if they were free-to-grab or not. It's obvious they were grabbing what came up first on Google search results, i.e. them using the logos for entire companies as icons for in-game items. Sometimes, free sounds they took were stolen from other places themselves, such as the Oof sound and the bass sound, which was originally from Zero-G's Datafile 3, before being repackaged into a free sound collection on the A1 Free Sound Effects website in the early 2000s. Because of instances like this, I very highly doubt they paid for anything they used, *especially* with textures.
As well: The Silk icons used in Roblox Studio from early 2007 to 2022 *were initially* used with credit. However, the credit was completely removed from Studio, a few years later. Before that, in 2006, Roblox Studio used default Windows 95 icons.
And yes, this video came out before more things were discovered about the Oof sound by other creators. While the Oof sound was credited to simply "Tommy Tallarico Studios", with Tommy Tallarico taking credit for the sound himself, it's now known that someone else at the studio (Joey Kuras) was responsible.
You should watch Homberman's video about it if you have two hours to spare.
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Oh.
Okay
you gonna make a correction about the oof sound being owned by Tommy?
@@polocatfan forgot to do that lol, i'll write it in the pin when i get home
I honestly really liked the use of random internet images as assets it gave the games a certain feel to it
so true tho lol. It makes it feel less like a super polished product and more like something cool in development
That sure is one strange way to justify plagiarism
@@marcowulliampopirers2216 i know roblox is kinda stealing, but when did this comment ever justify it?
yeah.
I agree, it makes it feel less polished and more of a fun simple sandbox multiplayer game.
It’s crazy how far they’ve gotten
But they took a wrong turn
both good and bad
Yeah they went from stealing assets to stealing money from children.
bro i wanna tat texture pack tat e as
their service is growing backwards
than allowing 18+ games
Roblox: We still do 13+ games
But who would be that age if you an old player
Player1 age 31
player 2 21
player 3 19
Who can make an game
NONE of them because their fav games now removed because is higher rated than 13+
Best part about roblox is
removing songs that youtube allows
copyright system that failed at the basic job
oof song
( we allowed that audio is not copyrighted ( TH-cam)
roblox: the oof song been removed because of copyright
the button.wav sound also appears in psychonauts when you pick up a collectible iirc, so that makes me think that the button.wav sound doesn't come from windows but from a sound library.
was about to comment this, cool that somebody else knows
@@noblequbed8543 same, I actually didn't know it was apart of a package until now.
Psychonauts is so good
I thought the sound was familiar!
Windows 95 Utopia I believe was the source
the game was designed to look like a kid went into his room and smacked some toys together, so thats probably why so much stuff was stolen
or they were lazy/couldnt make good art
nah they just didnt have the skill to do it back then
@@quicklight7611 yeah duh they're game designers not graphic designers.
It’s sort of a positive side effect but it’s likely cause they kitbashed the whole thing together
you’re looking a little too far into this when it’s obvious they just yanked them without second thought
I miss the older art and assets dearly. Too bad they had to get rid of them.
Same
Copyright is a bitch. Nuff said.
Yeah, I joined Roblox around 2007 and the game was cooler back then. I'm too old for it now, but I was playing a few games with friends and it doesn't feel like Roblox anymore.
@@mogotrevo Thanks for the information!
@@SilvercattoOsomI agree The damn internet copyright always removing things awesome to us.
The only reason Roblox used to be so careless about reusing assets is probably because yes they created the game hoping for a playerbase but they never expected it to grow so exponentially. So by the time it already had, the stuff they stole became most integral to their game than it ever was even towards the source material they were “borrowing” from.
That's not even true considering they had hundreds of thousands of players and still ignored the stolen assets. It's not like Roblox was totally unknown in 2008 (there were over 1 million players), it had more players than most online games ever had.
See here: 8:38 they had over 100,000 players by this point.
@@gianni50725 oh boo freaking hoo. I highly doubt any of the toys the models were based on lost sales.
@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged Exactly this. Why are there so many people in this comment section being petty bitches about some copyright for an older version of an online kids block game
@@gianni50725 Well, I'd have to agree with OP. I found the game in late 2006 and joined in 2007. I always thought the game would shut down eventually. It was a small project compared to what it is now, indie projects weren't expected to survive for long and the trailer sucked. They also had competition from Blockland.
Nobody expected it to be so huge.
I vaguely remember playing in 2008-09, but the community still seemed small then.
You had more freedom to do what you wanted, and I used to get hit by other players in most servers I went to, so my character died constantly. I liked watching Roblox blooper videos on TH-cam, as well.
I went on a ton of MMOGs (over 200), including virtual worlds and MMORPGs... 1 million players meant nothing compared to the gigantic playerbases of Western and Asian MMORPGs, or even virtual worlds like Habbo Hotel. If I didn't play something, I'm at least aware of it.
Besides, I think that in 2008, there were 1 million accounts registered, not concurrent players.
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I'll just make a correction regarding the Oof sound. It actually wasn't removed immediately when Tommy Tallarico found out about it in early 2020, they managed to come to an agreement during that time that allowed ROBLOX to continue using the Oof sound. However Tommy Tallarico in mid 2022, presumably due to financial troubles he ran into while developing the Intellivision Amico (which has often been described as a scam), likely demanded even more money from ROBLOX to allow them to continue using the Oof sound, which they refused to accept and instead created a new Oof sound.
i still have hatred for roblox refusement. also for the new oof sound they should've used the kid saying ouch sound even tho its stolen
God, Tommy Tallarico is an enigma of a man.
Is there any backing for this, or is it just a rumor like that $10K idea?
@LigmaKid69 not unless you don’t hire anyone
In the mobile version of roblox the old oof sound is still there
This explains a lot about why the icon graphics are so disjointed style-wise. I have to admit tho it adds a massive amount of charm to the whole thing. If it were too polished it might have come off cold and disingenuous when I first played >10 years ago (geez I'm old)
2:30 DUDE DON'T SCARE ME LIKE THAT
Really superb job with the editing here! A topic I've also been quite curious about, and I'm glad you covered it.
6:37 The silk icons are used everywhere because they are free and good looking, also my favorite instance of the icons are in Garry's mod.
fugue icons are great aswell
@@slaviknaumen They kinda look similar to silk. Still good pack.
Icon maniac here, that icon set is probably my favorite
@@AOOINGE Yeah same here bro
A lot of these assets from free asset cds and the like are totally legal to use and to call them stolen is a bit of a stretch. Many of these do seem to be stolen but many more aren’t. I think that’s an important distinction to make.
Surprised you didnt mention how some of the Roblox Studio icons were used in Garrys Mod aswell, its pretty interesting!
Yeah I saw that
Garry's Mod still uses those icons to this day. Strange...
@@SilvercattoOsom almost like they were free images
@@myth0572 If that's the case, then why did Roblox change the icons while GMod is keeping them?...
@@SilvercattoOsom Because they wanna seem more professional. G-Mod is literally just a mod for hl2 💀
making roblox is like sketching out a drawing but instead of using a pen for line art u just keep adding on to the sketch and use it as the final product
8:02 Technically, the snowballs icon isn't stolen. It's Creative Commons, please read the license.
+ theres assets that were probably bought so calling everything stolen is painful
Right, same with Flickr.
Old roblox looked as one big placeholder, but that's had a special vibe
wow man, I've been noticing the huge buff in quality with your content. awesome stuff you've been pumping out these past few months, it's been so great watching it all and seeing your channel grow! :)
wandering around abandoned and malfunctioning sites from 2006 and before searching for an forgotten asset is a vibe for me, specially if im doing this on windows xp
idk why
prob the fact that i collect old operative systems may attribute this
pretty fascinating stuff. it also reminds me of that rumor where one of the weld textures was stolen from Goldeneye 64. although I've only seen that on that roblox iceberg and can't find anything about it anywhere else.
2:57 There's sound in this CD which was used for the 1995 song Da Funk by the French EDM duo Daft Punk, same with the opening drum which was from I'm Just Gonna Love You a Little More by Barry White. Zero-G also stole sound effects from obscure songs, so the base.wav sound effect could be from a obscure 70s funk song.
Stolen and credited or not what with how small Roblox was, I still love the old assets and sound effects from the earlier days of the internet, still has a charm of the mishmash of random internet stuff in the developing engine at the time like it was supposed to be a 3D engine art project only to turn into mainstream because the appeal certainly was felt by kids more and more by the years now to be buried in obbies, tycoons and simulators.
This is actually mind-blowing to me for somebody that's a 2009 user.
CC0/public domain licenses allow you to take something without even requiring that you give credit, so not every uncredited asset is stolen
many of these havent been proven to be stolen, so i think its a little weird to include them.
Another great informative video toastedcherries :) The only thing that got me is that some of these assets aren't "stolen" really. If you go to 8:02, you can see that picture of snowballs is actually under CC0, meaning anybody can use that photo (even commercially) without having to ask to use it. I wish you were a bit more clearer on which assets were under what kind of liscencing and if Roblox followed said licensing, but I still quite liked the video dude. Super interesting stuff
yeah, i def couldve made that clearer
"My boy, I owned the slingshot"
- David Baszuki, 2009
0:31 builderman/David Baszucki, Matt Dusek, Erik Cassel, Shedletsky.
Had to go back as soon as I heard that the builders club hat was a stock image. Can't believe this
Loved the classic feel to this video, awesome stuff!!
Me and the person under me shat my pants.
I confirm that I shat my pants
Pixelcraftian’s comment is unpopular?!
been waiting for a video like this for YEARS, thank you!
I would honestly love to see you go more in-depth on topics like these, they're really interesting and there's so much to cover.
1:29
you don't understand the ptsd i have from hearing that "pu-tuh pu-tuh pu-tuh" sound for hours while playing yume nikki
can you explain? i just know verry little of Yume Nikki stuff
@@ValuableBlueberrysame
Your editing style has changed kinda into a way of polygon donut from the vast use of funnies and what not. Did you get inspiration from something to have these changes?
i watched a polygon donut video a few weeks ago and was like "lemme just over-edit the hell out of this next video" and it turned out to be one of my fav videos ive made in ages
that’s great to hear
I was mad at the fact they changed Studio's icons, but now I
understand why they did it.
Edit: They changed the icons back to their old counterpart.
still doesn't justify the new ones being so hard to read
@@nuulcoolpro you've got a point.
atleast back then they credited in the about box
yeah, kinda sucks trying to find things when nearly all of the icons are the same shade of blue
What a shame. I liked them
Fun fact: The music from the Crossroads game is actually stolen, there is actuially an HD stereo upload on spotify! Credits to Badliz for aknowledging that it was taken and being perfectly fine with it.
That is a cover song.
Music from crossroads?? No such thing
I think he's talking about the music used in the first Roblox trailer that is called The Great Strategy by Badliz. I'm not sure if that song is royalty free or not but regardless, thanks Badliz for being fine with them using it and not copyright striking
@@randomcommenter10_ It is, but crossroads was an old game that was basically a PVP, you start off with multiple items and you just battle.
I honestly don’t blame them, they didn’t know how far roblox would go, so they just stole stuff. I know it’s illegal but it could be seen from the other point as well.
Roblox ws also made in the early days of the internet so the whole copyright thing wasn't so big on the net compared to the modern day.
its not illegal because its all copyright free and free to use icons??
@@Person.Person_Person Not all of them
@@tomtravis858 wow really like what
@@Person.Person_Person my brother in Christ watch the video
I'm still mourning the loss of the oof. Its legacy will never be forgotten
just think of the new sound on roblox being used on banned games on Tiktok
meaning they don`t have to find a sound anymore only the ending they need to find
They should've replaced it with the Wilhelm scream.
@@Bacony_Cakes aaouughhh!!
not many talking about the new editing style in this regarding old cliparts and stuff , I love this please keep it up
I just realised, the silk icons pack is also used for the gmod in-game menus
Its free so why not
5:23 this scared me so much as a kid
I played a lot of Roblox when I was a kid and ended up accounting most of this stuff as "Oh like from Roblox?" Like the Microsoft 3.1 start-up sound, I legitimately would think "Ah, the Roblox badge sound effect" Nice video, was nice looking back at my childhood nostalgia a bit and picking it apart.
please do more with this kind of editing my adhd is laughing so hard rn
The tripmine sound being used for old horror games is the roblox equivalent of the HL2 stalker scream used in almost every gmod horror map.
Friend of Phantom Forces dev here.
3 or so years ago Jailbreak stole the inverse kinematics source code of Phantom Forces, put it in their own game. This code was used for connecting the character's arms to weapons and so on. Anyways, once my friend found out, he reached out to Badimo and received a settlement. I won't go into more detail than that but you get the gist.
no?
r/thathappened
Couldn’t they have just made… their own version of oof?
Just record it themselves and make it a little different
idk to be honest how to phrase this
covers are more fun
yk those games who have references for example of fnaf or other popular games??? thats kinda the point its just fun when u see something u already know in your favorite game
@@pop761 im making my own oof sound
Plagiarism probably
@Alguien Mas how? Thats like plagiarizing the word "English" many people have said oof and in other medias way before the original one
Some icons from the silk pack are used in gmod for the spawn menu
Man, that oof sound effect was so nostalgic, it was my childhood sound. Alot of those original sounds were. I used to play alot of roblox when I was a kid.
Finally a video we needed for years.
the pre-2007 studio icons were most likely made by microsoft and are found in the visual studio 2005 (and 2008) image library which is what roblox used at the time for the client
alot of the models seen in games on roblox including new ones use ripped Half Life 2 models. Big example is "Cult of the cryptids" which has a half life asset in every building.
I also remember alot of the Icons that were used in studio were also packaged in LUA software and other engines that use it.
Yeah, anyone can throw in whatever asset theyd like into their shitty roblox game, thats pretty mundane lol. I dont think lua has anything to do with those icons either
We should shame Roblox for replacing the OOF sound.
They said no to a nostalgic sound for 10k when there a multi billionaire
Yeah shame roblox
Finally, some good damn content
I had this question for awhile since your editing style is really good and your videos are very informative
What editing software do you use?
7:26 the more I watch this the funnier it gets
What's more interesting is that there is a channel (Roblox Gear Sounds) that puts videos of gear sound effects and I got to say, my favorite sound if the Boo sound effect from the soccer ball gear.
This video relaxes me and completely takes me back to the early noughties
royalty free creators may not require credit for their work, just like you dont credit earthbound for your outro
I had been playing Roblox since the early days and haven't played in a few years now so alot of these textures and sounds are quite nostalgic actually
great videos man what editor do you use
I’m so glad I can finally know where those retro Roblox symbols are from! I tried to look for that stupid horse on the lavender baseball cap for so long. Thank you.
Hellar toastedcherry I originally ordered my food to eat and watch your video and leave when I finished ate, I watch a your video all the way through, this one and many others. I had not gone out yet, I still might but I still watch your video. Very nice videos keep it up chery
hey, I really love your editing and I was wondering where you find the cool backdrops you use, like the one in your outro etc.
most of the backgrounds come from the battles in Earthbound. hope this helps
@@noblequbed8543 thanks dude!
There’s something so retro and comforting about the old assets. Perhaps it was because the sound fonts were cartoony, and decals were unoriginal, that it felt familiar in an ironically innocent way. Now when you look at Roblox, you remember the wickedness behind the mask. Apart of growing up, I guess. Having nostalgia ruined by new discovery and insight.
i used to make props and stuff on roblox when i was a kid and a bunch of my stuff showed up in really famous and popular maps but i never saw a lick of credit for them so i just stopped making stuff
Never noticed that the old Roblox Studio icons and Gmod's spawn menu icons were the same until now.
I found out about Roblox around late 2006 or early 2007. I was a kid at the time. Roblox was a VERY indie game, something that was considered negative back then. The original trailer didn't look promising at all, and it took me ages to finally try it out. I thought it wasn't going to last.
I remember I discovered Blockland around the same time, but that one was always shareware. I tested it only a few times.
It doesn't surprise me that Roblox's developers stole assets, including the "oof" sound from Messiah. The game was relatively unknown in its early years (compared to other popular MMOGs with 10 million users+) and they had little budget to make their own content, so they didn't care about copyright infringement.
I believe that in 2008 they had 1 million sign-ups, not concurrent players.
Early Roblox was better, in my opinion. Very anarchic and fun, even though I'd die in 10 seconds because everyone attacked me. 😂
I used to love watching videos by Fleskhjerta and JJx15 (or whatever he was called).
roblox is such a drastically different game and community than it was when i played as a kid from 2010-2013. it's so damn bizarre it became this massive thing.
Same
wasn't it a massive thing when u played it
@@4rumani I don't think I would call it massive. Not like it was unknown or underground, but it was nowhere near the level it is now. Thats why they got away with so many stolen assets, having users create games based off of popular IPs without having to censor or alter their names and properties, etc etc. It didn't even have support for mobile devices until right before I stopped playing, and even then it was only on the newest generation of ipad and maybe some other tablets.
i really hope this video doesn't make people go apeshit like last time when they realized that the hockey mask texture was from walmart, causing roblox to change it after 11 years, ruining the hat (and prices) forever.
A+ for the editing on this one
Stewie getting jumpscared by the mine was funny, i really love the editing in these videos.
It's so fascinating to learn about the history of Roblox before I was even alive. It's so intriguing to me, yet i dont have a reason as to why it is. It simply just is
The old sounds and textures and even shadows made roblox dream like which make it look unique.
I feel like for a lot of these icons for ingame items they could've used a picture or silhouette of the model they used.
2:08 you use the 3ds internet connection theme you are a w bro
Not to mention, the pumpkin bomb laughing sound effect comes from the horror character Chucky, and his laugh has continued to be used all over Roblox and is mostly used as a clown laugh.
4:12 WHY DOES THAT IMAGE LOOK LIKE THE BACKGROUNDS FROM WOLF tracers dinosaur island? Is it the same software they used in that film?
just in case you didn’t mention it or did and I just missed it, the slingshot sound is used in shows like SpongeBob, meaning they ripped THAT too. Found it while binge-watching up to season 6 of SpongeBob just because
Well done, This video had great edits, good research and it was extremely entertaining. It's always a great day when you upload a video.
coming from october 15th
happy birthday toast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Honestly after realizing how many people took from who, I don't really feel so bad about taking assests from the left tab
I mean.. the internet was a huge place with a lot of stuff floating around back then. I couldn't entirely blame them for doing this; I know young me ripped assets from everywhere all the time to accomplish things because copyright isn't always so obvious when you're first on the internet lol. Good history stuff tho.
@Bruner, The font wasn't stoled from Gorrilaz album, it is called Gill Sans Ultra Bold.
8:42 that hand kinda looks like the one from the font 'Wingdings'
A video that mentions Tommy without stopping to go on a tangent about how he's le evil christian. Amazing work.
iirc roblox only had a limited selection of music you could put in your places for a time, all if not most of these were stolen from other games or media.
A highlight from me is that the song "tunnel" on roblox was taken directly from the rhythm game DJMax Trilogy. The song's original title is Zet, made by Bexter.
bass.wav still hits me like a truck when I'm not expecting it
I hear Joel G's works in the background, good on you.
The glassbreak sound is actually used in Half-life too
4:05 who created this? I must know who made this masterpiece of art.
SharpTH, an old-school roblox/minecraft/etc youtuber that was most active around 2009 to 2011 th-cam.com/users/TheSharpTHOfLulz
NOoo SPONGEBOB
hey there! just wondering where i could access the roblox file of old textures like the part at 0:51 or 5:09
note: i did see the end of the video, i'm just curious.
when this got reccomended to me the last 3 letters of assets were cut off
Another banger from the toastedcherries channel
its been so long from the oof sound change that i dont even recognize it now
0:34 what page is this? it definerly wasnt a part of 2005 - 2009 so when was this and if its a custom page how can i view it because it looks cool
the silk icons looked really nice thoughhh
I think stuff like the old folder icon in studio came from gmod, are very similar or came from the same sources.
Keep up the growth, love you :)
ur vids are so high quality and interesting, i love them! keep it up
Please make a part 2, there's more!
i really wish i could go back in time and play roblox again. i played 2013(as a guest) and in 2014-present day. 2014-2016 had a lot of really fun and good games. and ik this is a common complaint, but im really tired of simulator/pet collector games. its hard to find smth fun without being recommended it by someone else or tiktok bc the discovery page is awful.
To this roblox came out that long ago is crazy, just think how old the myths are that people still believe in