My takeaway from the We Robot event is that our future according to Tesla is a time where humans aren’t needed much. Driverless cars, robots doing the work etc. the entire presentation depicted humans just watching a screen or sleeping in a car and playing games while the robots did the work. I wonder how we are supposed to buy the products when we get replaced…
@@seanlander9321 Do you think the few relish that environment surrounded by angry 'useless eaters' witnessing utter degenerate opulence as if they should appreciate the elites' contribution to society? Do you think the average joe and jane would sit idly by and accept the elites' explanation about the 'threat' by AI robots which were fully under their control (blaming the robots for our ills)? Like now, listening to the same propaganda BS about the superiority of Capitalism over Communism?
As labor, energy, transportation becomes almost free everything will become affordable for almost everyone and eventually money will be worthless. Don’t believe people who say only rich people will have things and everyone else will be poor. They are thinking ideologically - it makes no economic sense. For more info Google “post-scarcity economics” and “beneficial deflation”.
being a quadrapolegic for nearly 20 years and now have a knee injury rendering me unable to walk or carry anything, a robot would be crucial to improving my life.
the point is, how do you earn money to buy the robot. jobs will be scarece, as robots, ai agents increasingly making one person do work what several people do previously.
The ppl who can afford them, will get richer. The more Optimus u hav, the richer u gonna get. For the poor, u just hav to find ways to get at least 1..
Don't worry Sam your personality can't replaced by a faceless Robot your unique! A robot might good as an assistant gathering and preparing news reports and other behind the camera stuff. But we want you as you have become a friend to interact with! My prayers go out to your wife, to you and your boys. xx
Hola Sam, this will bring abundance and people will learn to use the time and spend it doing better things...I am sure you would prefer to be playing out side with the boys or helping with home work than doing the shopping, cooking and washing up.
I don't see robots doing chores as a threat to health. If you exercise, then if anything, a robot should make it more convenient. If you don't, then blaming the robot who is chopping onions isn't the worst problem.
It will take at least one generation, maybe two to become societally impactful that way I believe. But most of us do require productive activities for our self worth, as more bots take over more and more of those things we will have to evolve spiritually, to truly become "human beings" instead of "human doings".
I don't think UBI works because of the money aspect. But universal basic resources could work ( Basic housing, food, education, entertainment, medical care provided without cost but with the potential to earn income for extra stuff ).
@@Ask-a-Rocket-Scientist because robots don't create raw materials and raw materials aren't free. Neither is the transportation of raw and finished goods. Labor makes up less than 25% of product price in most industries.
I'm having a robot mowing my lawn, He is guided by enhanced gps and decides when to go to its charger all by himself. As he is from Swedish decent (Husqvarna) we called him Hagar.
I disagree. Robots will become our personal trainers. Also, they’ll be able to monitor us so closely that they’ll be able to warns us very early if we start to come fat. Essentially, they become personal doctors as well.
Interesting - I think you’re right. Robots could help people break bad habits and gain good ones. For example right now I’m lying on the couch watching TH-cam when I told myself I’d be cleaning or going to the supermarket. My Optimus could give me a literal kick in the butt - yes I’d give it permission.
Nice commentary! Not to worry, Sam. Some of us are already nutritarians where we make a daily habit of caloric restriction by eating within a 4 to 6 hour window and then fast for the remaining 18 to 20 hours a day. Intermittent daily fasting will need to be part of the human experience. We will need to be more disciplined! Not just about fasting, but about what we eat when we do eat, and about going regularly to a gym to maintain our body. Even without robots, most humans are already becoming obese. Self discipline is the answer. Maybe our robots will help us to achieve that.
Hyper abundance won’t happen if we don’t fix distribution. The issue is not robots, it’s who owns the robots. Robots exist for profit. Not to create hyper abundance for humanity. Excited for a future of tech and innovation but concerned that, just like vaccines don’t get to Africa, and people in the US can’t afford cheap to produce insulin. This will be bad for many, unless we fix distribution.
Yes, nailed it. I’m at a stage of life where it’s keep moving or die. No home bot for me. But I love the idea of factory bots. They’re welcome to all the industrial drudge.
Also another worry is the weaponisation of these robots through backdoors, similar to the pager and walkitalkie attacks in Lebanon, or other nefarious activities that harm you.
Yeah. I worry about military robots - already Russians are reportedly hunting civilians in Kherson by dropping grenades on them with cheap off the shelf drones. Dedicated military humanoid robots could be way worse.
G’day, just wanted to drop some optimism. First, things like ‘jobs, money, taxes, banks, etc are all less than 10,000 years old. Homo Sapiens Sapiens is about 300,000 years old. Secondly, there have ALWAYS been people who were free to do whatever they liked. The uber wealthy. They didn’t need to cook or clean… they had people for that. In spite of this privilege, a large number of them went ahead and ‘worked’… People will find things to keep themselves amused. Finally, yeah, a lot of folk will get fat… modern science may soon have a remedy for that. Certainly, there will be some upheavals… but ultimately there will be more positives than negatives.
Throughout history the wealthy drove the economy by employing people to provide them with products and services. If human labour is replaced the economy collapses. Optimism == naivety. This revolution will be _nothing_ like the previous ones. There are _many_ more people in the world. Expect chaos. Prepare for it.
Except in societies where there wasn't enough surplus to produce a ruling class living from it. Now we're on the other side of that same thing in we will all live in surplus and abundance so we don't need the rich anymore!
Not worried about that - more time for sport, walking cycling and robots can also help with that and improve meals so we don't get too much calories. Even today a vacuuming robot does not cause obesity for owners 😎👍
Love your videos. Most important thing to understand is that we as humans will evolve happily only when we can do things out of pleasure and not compulsion, and that's exactly what Robots will allow us. People will be fat no matter it's covid, or robots. I'm not overweight but normally over my ideal, however in covid i lost weight because i have no option but to walk to entertain, and i hate walking. It's a concern for people who live when being pushed by others, but relief for people who like to live knowing what they are doing. But if people can do what they love, the humanity will prosper without fear in true sense. Not by wars, opportunists, politicians, governments, corporate culture etc. Reason Tesla is so successful is because it mostly driven by people who love their work and hence the success apart from many other factors ofcourse.
Regarding health if you don't have to clean house and make meals: most jobs I've had are mostly sitting behind a computer. When I have free time I hike, skateboard, roller skate, play tennis, play frisbee, etc. Working around the house doing tedious stuff is far less exercise.
most people in Australia work from home, I work in IT and that will never change its been that way before covid even happened. for other industries is a new and shiny thing lol its been around for over a decade to work from home.
But the robot could warn you of calorie overages and suggest other healthier options. Also it could perhaps one day detect unhealthy or dangerous foods.
@@crosslink1493nope, they can walk on their own, and no human has hips that fit that “robot” suit. Teleoperation is how they are trained for jobs, and nothing wrong with them being tele-operated, it’s just part of neural network training.. they may have not had enough time to train a robotic fleet of bartenders…. But they will likely be much better trained on future Tesla events to bartend and interact with the public, it all takes time.
The essence of the best of humanity is when people need one another to survive and thrive together. The more abundant more of the world's population gets, less reliant on each other, the more materialistic, the less caring for one another
When I was young, I spent whatever free time I had skiing and wilderness backpacking. Regrettably, having to work at various meaningless corporate jobs prevented me from doing more.
The issue, as you point out, is motivation. Automation does NOT put people out of work in the medium to long term. (There are so many examples of this ranging from the farming to whaling.) It changes what they do. Without motivation, people living on their generous "universal basic income" will not have a better life. With motivation, you will not turn into a fat blob because the things that make you fit have nothing to do with your occupation or the chores you have to do. You exercise for entirely different reasons that won't change with a robot cooking your food and cleaning your house. The challenge will be motivational because "bread winning" and chores will take much less time. The quality of the world will center in the future--as it does today--how we choose to use the time we are given.
We will have to discipline ourselves, this would include working with the robot, at times, to keep from being useless. Doing this will also allow us to learn new things that we might not have attempted if we were by ourselves. I don't think we have to worry too much if it is allowing our personal World to expand.
Of course we need to consider the wall-E scenario for humanity but remember that with that line of reasoning we would still have 93% of the population in the fields farming today. So since that time we have re-balanced our job options. Humanoid robots will remove all job options. This requires that we relearn how we define ourselves. Most of us define ourselves with our jobs we do to make money. So the conversation needs to be how do we educate the next generations to be both physically and mentally healthy without jobs.
Charging Optimus is surely not a big deal. First, it has a relatively small battery pack. Second, the Roomba vacuum cleaner has been automatically parking on its charger, recharging, then continuing its working schedule for years.
The humanoid robot will replace workers everywhere - throwing up an enormous challenge to capitalism. I am confident it can’t meet that challenge, and new forms of economic organisation will have to be created.
Things never stay the same. Increasing technology, the driver, will displace humans from the manufacturing and supply chain. Will we all sit around getting fat? I think not. Human endeavour, the ultimate driver, will be the last thing to disappear from the face of the earth.
The jobs they will be most suitable is in the car factories AND in SPACE! on the MOON and MARS for initial high risk operations on the surface setting up Bases and infrastructure.
most people love to drive in the right circumstances. But everyone hates driving 3 hours a day in crawling traffic to get to work and back. Tesla have driver orientated vehicles. The next Roadster will be 0-100 in sub one second. Also, 1 million deaths on the road a year most due to driver error. Today someone looking at their phone nearly hit me and my kids in the car.
The huge datasets used to create FSD with end-to-end NN simply don't exist for Optimus. It's going to take some new software and technologies to achieve comparable progress with robots. Don't hold your breath.
Nope, they do exist - between remote training and some NVidia 3d stuff that generates slightly different training data from that - it is a matter of time and bootstrapping it.
Also more imprtantly robots will not forgot anything, imagine if we never forgot anything we learn as well as learning and not forgotting everything that everyone else has learnt.
I grew up in Detroit during the 1960s and 1970s. I remember when automakers were introducing robots to the assembly lines and there was all this FUD about how robots would take all the jobs from line workers and the world as we knew it would come to an end. Well, here we are hearing the same FUD regarding Optimus. I'm pretty sure it will not end humanity. Rather, Optimus will augment humanity and we will adapt, hopefully for the better. That's my two scents💩💩😁
I think it will be a long time before robots like Optimous will enter homes or, for that matter, small businesses - due to safety and personal family privacy and security concerns (until a family robot actually becomes perceived as a family "member" or personal employee). Meanwhile, the opportunities in outer space, agriculture, mining, construction, factories, perhaps retail and the like literally abound. Over time, as this occurs, robots will vastly improve and become as familiar as cars (well, they already are that) and colleagues.
If you think about it, it was never caused by a mad man. It had always been the work of elites who could scapegoat someone and fool the masses. Pls wake up from your propagandized state and recognize who the real enemy is.
On the other hand we can just have so much more done. Imagine coming home to a perfectly clean house every day. Imagine clean sidewalks and perfect streets with no potholes. Nothing will ever go to disrepair
industrial high value jobs would reduce costs by $100,000 to $200,000 per year, and will absorb bot production for 5 to 10 years. making our meals won't be economical until all high value jobs are filled
Great point about the potential effects on our health. But here’s a bigger problem: if we don’t have jobs, how do we have incomes? And if governments have to give UBIs to everyone, how do they raise the revenue to afford it? By taxing robot productivity, which will make them less financially advantageous to companies? And how will people feel being dependent on their government for their UBI, set at some defined amount, as their primary or sole source of income? Will people start trashing robots and boycotting companies that make and/or use them, to protect their jobs? I foresee great social upheaval ahead.
Humans will adapt to best use cases for robots. The consequences of Laziness are already known, whether it is watching tv all day, unhealthy eating or lack of exercise. When we want to boil some water we use a kettle, not a pan on the stove. We already use things that save time and robots will be perfect for that. Humans will still need to be responsible, wise, loving, caring, and we will work out our future with robots around.
Dady dady, how did the meatbots use a hammer to put things together in ancient times. " Well deary i believe people would grab the blunt end and swing it to put small metal sticks into wood to help it stay together. "😊
Boston Dynamics and Hyundai have robots that actually work. If you are going to worry about a robot, worry about one of those instead of these remote controlled manikins.
I found being furloughed in the pandemic enabled me to be extremely productive completing loads of tasks I never had time to do otherwise because of work commitments. I actually got fitter initially with all the physical work plus walking, cycling etc. the question is if we didn’t have to work because AI robots did everything for us, would we have a dystopia or a utopia? Would the wealthy minority making trillions of dollars build huge walls to keep us out and live lavish decadent lifestyles. Would Musk AND possibly Trump treat the rest of us like Mexicans, guarding the wall with armed robots or would we have freedom and UBI at a high level? I’d guess the robots which would be smarter than us might go for the latter but possibly eliminate us in the process. That’s evolution!😂
Most people don't understand the big picture. Robot manufacturer are not waiting for full autonomous operation. They are waiting for good dexterity and then will hire an army of cheap labor in poor countries in order to remotely operate millions of robot 7000km away in rich countries. This will happen in less than 5 years.
I don't know if I've ever said this on this channel but the house robot will be the largest invasion of privacy to mankind ever produced - by a huge margin. Imagine having something in your home 24/7 that can see, hear and know everything, and all of the information gets uploaded to the cloud where data brokers will build a personality analysis on every member in the home. I can envision a day when the newly deployed Cyber Police Force will come to arrest you based on your perceived intentions or what you said, even if you thought the discussion was entirely innocuous.
We already gave up our privacy. Cell phones are surveillance devices. They can "listen in" on conversations near the phone and "see" whatever isbin front of the camera and record your location/travels and times you were there. Those files on all of us already exist, IMHO. Governments may deny it, but do you honestly believe them?
Roll on the Robots! They can have every job! I have better things to do with my life. They may be trivial and pointless things, but you do what you enjoy doing. Even if a Robot could do it for you. Crafts and hobbies, are about the fun of doing, not the need to 'produce' a thing to order and desire of someone else, and not just for pay. Eventually when robots and other machines do everything from mining food production to delivery of final things and services money ceases to matter, there is nothing to pay for! Even the materials the robots mine. The work they do, including making more of themselves.
Robots can be a bane or savior of humanity depend on where you live. In a pure capitalistic country, robots will result in more power and wealth to the 1%, the people who own capitals. In socialist country, this could liberate workers from the slavery like jobs.
Also one important fact is that tesla has the biggest visual data dataset in the world that is private, in AI data is really all that matters. Other companies have really no chance to compete with that
BYD + other Chinese EV makers will surely have more data. They also use other sensors that Tesla, because of a whim, refused to incorporate in its care. China also has an AI + IoT ecosystem that can feed into and from such data. Tesla has the disadvantage of being American
We need to rethink how to reorganize our Society. Technological advancements should be viewed as Human Achievements for the good of Society, not for Capitalist profits even if capital initially came from them. We need not think in the mode of the Current Operating System. We need to think how Human Society can be organized to cooperate, live peaceful meaningful lives and can continue to progress. Are we unable to think in those terms or have we been brainwashed to accept the Current System as the best and none other can replace it?
@NashHinton Nah most likely a form of socialism where the basics for human life will be free or part of a grant from government, then you can choose to waste your life away doing nothing much,or explore or work in a higher field to earn more money/rewards than the basic human who's just alive....or a combination of the 3....this will be a game changer for many innovative thinkers who currently are held back by the grind of the daily 9 to 5...a new age of progress and enlightenment is close to being born.
It is not just Optimus. There are many robot companies. This is coming guys. Get the legal protections for humans in place or you will be like Horses when automobiles were introduced.
I don’t think so. Boston dynamics robots can’t do anything unless they’re programmed specifically to do it. Tesla is aiming to make the robots able to learn on their own to do everything
i look forward to them and hope to on the 1st pre order. its not going to replace anyone for me but it is going to help one self employed person like me get more done. people want to get paid to much for simple jobs
This is the true existential crisis. Yes, some work sucks. However most people gain respect and self respect by working and contributing to society. Without work, what will most young people do? If people are relegated to the equivalent of a pet, how will they be treated? What will the purpose of mankind be? Etc.
to many robot replacing people and make items cheaper. however robot do not get paid, and economics is about money going around and around, and it grows then
Good video , well done , but my age is old and I can’t wait this long , I should have swooped all in 2022 stock crash , , to make a robot ur friend with a friendly personality that can teach u without getting angry at u that he has to repeat himself ,
...alas, there is no real incentive for whoever has the power (who owns the robots) to accept you even as a slave. When you run out of money, your job is to go away and stop being a cost (to not exist).
@@michaelnurse9089 Is that also why he panders to a racist presidential candidate who casts an entire race as thugs, rapists, and drug dealers? If you don't know the comments I'm referring to, you are not well-informed.
Like most things in life, I think what will happen will be somewhere in the middle. It won’t be as bad as some predict but there’ll also be challenges. Don’t get me wrong. I think Optimus and its potential is astounding sci fi stuff made real. But I don’t think it’ll be as bad as some say.
There is a book, "The Oil Curse" which details how when the super rich of a country don't need workers, the outcome is usually bad. This is the case in countries where oil reserves are large divided by capita. The exception is Norway.
Prices for labor are increasing:robots -> no health insurance, no sick days, holidays, work 15hr/day, no lunch break. All repetitive work will be robot done, costs will come down. AI will eviserate engineering, medicine. The HUGE prob is industry will push this as a needed cost benefit, so we will become “socially” infantile , more dependent on Corp./Govt. And robotic weaponized drones will become Commonplace. The interesting thing is to discover “who” are the raw material providers for robot manufacturing; and huge new biz for “training” them for customers. My 2cents.
Humans are the customers we have needs, we create , we trade, we sell and buy . Humans must be protected at all costs. Robots and AI are just machines to help us do things for human advancement.😊
Haha - no dude - I had been working from home for five years when covid hit. I'm able to exercise and walk, where if you are stuck in traffic you are wasting that time. So no, working from home gives you more time to get fit, not less.
The topic that has me stumped is that there’s lots of talk about the billions or trillions of dollars in the robots and AI industry and that companies will be able to build their products more efficiently and cheaper. But if people don’t work and don’t have salaries who will buy the millions of smartphones and computers and VR headsets and tvs even if they are at 20% of today’s prices? Companies without buying customers don’t survive. People without salaries can not be buying customers because they can’t pay for stuff.
AI will eventually replace most jobs but not all jobs. Human existence isn't just about buying stuff from one another. We like to interact with people. Your particular channel isn't safe from human competition but it is safe from AI Sam. While AI will eventually create more video content without the hallucinations and rich enough to be undetectable as Ai, there will always also still be demand to know what actual humans think even if imperfec. As wonderful as an AI toaster is at making toast, or an AI refrigerator is at refrigerating, or AI fembot would be at fembotting, it would be awfully lonely just talking to fancy calculators..
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My takeaway from the We Robot event is that our future according to Tesla is a time where humans aren’t needed much. Driverless cars, robots doing the work etc. the entire presentation depicted humans just watching a screen or sleeping in a car and playing games while the robots did the work. I wonder how we are supposed to buy the products when we get replaced…
When human labour is valued at less than robotic labour, the few who have a store of wealth and land will have everything they need to live very well.
@@seanlander9321 Do you think the few relish that environment surrounded by angry 'useless eaters' witnessing utter degenerate opulence as if they should appreciate the elites' contribution to society? Do you think the average joe and jane would sit idly by and accept the elites' explanation about the 'threat' by AI robots which were fully under their control (blaming the robots for our ills)? Like now, listening to the same propaganda BS about the superiority of Capitalism over Communism?
Corporations are already insanely powerfull but that would put them on another level ,basicly they want need people at all
The main customers will be other tech companies. Just like in colonialism, the locals could not afford to buy the goods they made.
As labor, energy, transportation becomes almost free everything will become affordable for almost everyone and eventually money will be worthless. Don’t believe people who say only rich people will have things and everyone else will be poor. They are thinking ideologically - it makes no economic sense. For more info Google “post-scarcity economics” and “beneficial deflation”.
being a quadrapolegic for nearly 20 years and now have a knee injury rendering me unable to walk or carry anything, a robot would be crucial to improving my life.
the point is, how do you earn money to buy the robot.
jobs will be scarece, as robots, ai agents increasingly making one person do work what several people do previously.
The ppl who can afford them, will get richer. The more Optimus u hav, the richer u gonna get. For the poor, u just hav to find ways to get at least 1..
Wait what?
How do you pay for it if there are no jobs?
@@10secondsrule I guess we'll be on welfare and we can pay for one with our welfare cheque 😮
Don't worry Sam your personality can't replaced by a faceless Robot your unique! A robot might good as an assistant gathering and preparing news reports and other behind the camera stuff. But we want you as you have become a friend to interact with!
My prayers go out to your wife, to you and your boys. xx
Thanks Mate!
Hola Sam, this will bring abundance and people will learn to use the time and spend it doing better things...I am sure you would prefer to be playing out side with the boys or helping with home work than doing the shopping, cooking and washing up.
I don't see robots doing chores as a threat to health. If you exercise, then if anything, a robot should make it more convenient. If you don't, then blaming the robot who is chopping onions isn't the worst problem.
It will take at least one generation, maybe two to become societally impactful that way I believe. But most of us do require productive activities for our self worth, as more bots take over more and more of those things we will have to evolve spiritually, to truly become "human beings" instead of "human doings".
Universal Basic Income should be a topic of conversation right now.
A Resource-Based Economy. UBI is just another patchwork solution. RBE solves all the problems.
I don't think UBI works because of the money aspect. But universal basic resources could work ( Basic housing, food, education, entertainment, medical care provided without cost but with the potential to earn income for extra stuff ).
If the robot creates everything you need, why do you need income?
@@Ask-a-Rocket-Scientistyou still need somewhere to live, food, electricity nothing changes except you have a housemaid cook, gardener etc
@@Ask-a-Rocket-Scientist because robots don't create raw materials and raw materials aren't free. Neither is the transportation of raw and finished goods.
Labor makes up less than 25% of product price in most industries.
I'm having a robot mowing my lawn, He is guided by enhanced gps and decides when to go to its charger all by himself. As he is from Swedish decent (Husqvarna) we called him Hagar.
And that is the thing. When something provides more utility than its cost, people buy it and use it.
I disagree. Robots will become our personal trainers. Also, they’ll be able to monitor us so closely that they’ll be able to warns us very early if we start to come fat. Essentially, they become personal doctors as well.
Interesting - I think you’re right. Robots could help people break bad habits and gain good ones. For example right now I’m lying on the couch watching TH-cam when I told myself I’d be cleaning or going to the supermarket. My Optimus could give me a literal kick in the butt - yes I’d give it permission.
Nice commentary! Not to worry, Sam. Some of us are already nutritarians where we make a daily habit of caloric restriction by eating within a 4 to 6 hour window and then fast for the remaining 18 to 20 hours a day. Intermittent daily fasting will need to be part of the human experience. We will need to be more disciplined! Not just about fasting, but about what we eat when we do eat, and about going regularly to a gym to maintain our body. Even without robots, most humans are already becoming obese. Self discipline is the answer. Maybe our robots will help us to achieve that.
@@flyshacker love it, my comment too 😅
Hyper abundance won’t happen if we don’t fix distribution. The issue is not robots, it’s who owns the robots. Robots exist for profit. Not to create hyper abundance for humanity. Excited for a future of tech and innovation but concerned that, just like vaccines don’t get to Africa, and people in the US can’t afford cheap to produce insulin. This will be bad for many, unless we fix distribution.
Yes, nailed it. I’m at a stage of life where it’s keep moving or die. No home bot for me.
But I love the idea of factory bots. They’re welcome to all the industrial drudge.
I'm more concerned about Musk literally paying for votes for his boy in the US at the moment
Also another worry is the weaponisation of these robots through backdoors, similar to the pager and walkitalkie attacks in Lebanon, or other nefarious activities that harm you.
Yeah. I worry about military robots - already Russians are reportedly hunting civilians in Kherson by dropping grenades on them with cheap off the shelf drones. Dedicated military humanoid robots could be way worse.
There is a lot of anti-Russian propaganda and so I don't believe that report.
which is why I would never let a robot be in charge of my snacks.
G’day, just wanted to drop some optimism. First, things like ‘jobs, money, taxes, banks, etc are all less than 10,000 years old. Homo Sapiens Sapiens is about 300,000 years old. Secondly, there have ALWAYS been people who were free to do whatever they liked. The uber wealthy. They didn’t need to cook or clean… they had people for that. In spite of this privilege, a large number of them went ahead and ‘worked’… People will find things to keep themselves amused.
Finally, yeah, a lot of folk will get fat… modern science may soon have a remedy for that. Certainly, there will be some upheavals… but ultimately there will be more positives than negatives.
Throughout history the wealthy drove the economy by employing people to provide them with products and services. If human labour is replaced the economy collapses. Optimism == naivety. This revolution will be _nothing_ like the previous ones. There are _many_ more people in the world. Expect chaos. Prepare for it.
Except in societies where there wasn't enough surplus to produce a ruling class living from it. Now we're on the other side of that same thing in we will all live in surplus and abundance so we don't need the rich anymore!
Optimus could charge thru his feet while standing at the job
Not worried about that - more time for sport, walking cycling and robots can also help with that and improve meals so we don't get too much calories. Even today a vacuuming robot does not cause obesity for owners 😎👍
Great! Soon I'll be able to get a new body!
Love your videos. Most important thing to understand is that we as humans will evolve happily only when we can do things out of pleasure and not compulsion, and that's exactly what Robots will allow us.
People will be fat no matter it's covid, or robots. I'm not overweight but normally over my ideal, however in covid i lost weight because i have no option but to walk to entertain, and i hate walking.
It's a concern for people who live when being pushed by others, but relief for people who like to live knowing what they are doing. But if people can do what they love, the humanity will prosper without fear in true sense. Not by wars, opportunists, politicians, governments, corporate culture etc.
Reason Tesla is so successful is because it mostly driven by people who love their work and hence the success apart from many other factors ofcourse.
Regarding health if you don't have to clean house and make meals: most jobs I've had are mostly sitting behind a computer. When I have free time I hike, skateboard, roller skate, play tennis, play frisbee, etc. Working around the house doing tedious stuff is far less exercise.
Just think of the humans in the film Wall e 😁🤣😂
most people in Australia work from home, I work in IT and that will never change its been that way before covid even happened. for other industries is a new and shiny thing lol its been around for over a decade to work from home.
But the robot could warn you of calorie overages and suggest other healthier options. Also it could perhaps one day detect unhealthy or dangerous foods.
I am quite sure these robots were REMOTELY controlled for Tesla show.
But... Even as Avaters what they already can do is Impressive.
A lot of them were humans in robot attire. Fashion models are pretty slim so easy to fit them into those slim 'robot suits.
@@crosslink1493nope, they can walk on their own, and no human has hips that fit that “robot” suit. Teleoperation is how they are trained for jobs, and nothing wrong with them being tele-operated, it’s just part of neural network training.. they may have not had enough time to train a robotic fleet of bartenders…. But they will likely be much better trained on future Tesla events to bartend and interact with the public, it all takes time.
We need to embrace the age of abudance, rise above our petty differences and prep our brethren, humanity for a future so bright we gotta wear shades.
The essence of the best of humanity is when people need one another to survive and thrive together. The more abundant more of the world's population gets, less reliant on each other, the more materialistic, the less caring for one another
It will be the age of greed.
When I was young, I spent whatever free time I had skiing and wilderness backpacking. Regrettably, having to work at various meaningless corporate jobs prevented me from doing more.
You have seen the terminator right?
We'll need them to change our collective bedpans as humanity ages into mass dotage.
Leisure lifestyle
Bring it on
Got heaps to do, see, learn
The issue, as you point out, is motivation. Automation does NOT put people out of work in the medium to long term. (There are so many examples of this ranging from the farming to whaling.) It changes what they do. Without motivation, people living on their generous "universal basic income" will not have a better life. With motivation, you will not turn into a fat blob because the things that make you fit have nothing to do with your occupation or the chores you have to do. You exercise for entirely different reasons that won't change with a robot cooking your food and cleaning your house. The challenge will be motivational because "bread winning" and chores will take much less time. The quality of the world will center in the future--as it does today--how we choose to use the time we are given.
Very well said!
We will have to discipline ourselves, this would include working with the robot, at times, to keep from being useless. Doing this will also allow us to learn new things that we might not have attempted if we were by ourselves. I don't think we have to worry too much if it is allowing our personal World to expand.
Of course we need to consider the wall-E scenario for humanity but remember that with that line of reasoning we would still have 93% of the population in the fields farming today. So since that time we have re-balanced our job options. Humanoid robots will remove all job options. This requires that we relearn how we define ourselves. Most of us define ourselves with our jobs we do to make money. So the conversation needs to be how do we educate the next generations to be both physically and mentally healthy without jobs.
Charging Optimus is surely not a big deal. First, it has a relatively small battery pack. Second, the Roomba vacuum cleaner has been automatically parking on its charger, recharging, then continuing its working schedule for years.
The humanoid robot will replace workers everywhere - throwing up an enormous challenge to capitalism. I am confident it can’t meet that challenge, and new forms of economic organisation will have to be created.
Communism.
Things never stay the same. Increasing technology, the driver, will displace humans from the manufacturing and supply chain. Will we all sit around getting fat? I think not. Human endeavour, the ultimate driver, will be the last thing to disappear from the face of the earth.
The jobs they will be most suitable is in the car factories AND in SPACE! on the MOON and MARS for initial high risk operations on the surface setting up Bases and infrastructure.
Just like EV's are dooming humanity!!
I love to drive. To have that taken away will be sad . To drive is man and machine working together.
I love to drive, but in heavy traffic on a long journey I'd welcome a chance to sleep.
most people love to drive in the right circumstances. But everyone hates driving 3 hours a day in crawling traffic to get to work and back. Tesla have driver orientated vehicles. The next Roadster will be 0-100 in sub one second. Also, 1 million deaths on the road a year most due to driver error. Today someone looking at their phone nearly hit me and my kids in the car.
The huge datasets used to create FSD with end-to-end NN simply don't exist for Optimus. It's going to take some new software and technologies to achieve comparable progress with robots. Don't hold your breath.
Nope, they do exist - between remote training and some NVidia 3d stuff that generates slightly different training data from that - it is a matter of time and bootstrapping it.
Also more imprtantly robots will not forgot anything, imagine if we never forgot anything we learn as well as learning and not forgotting everything that everyone else has learnt.
I grew up in Detroit during the 1960s and 1970s. I remember when automakers were introducing robots to the assembly lines and there was all this FUD about how robots would take all the jobs from line workers and the world as we knew it would come to an end.
Well, here we are hearing the same FUD regarding Optimus. I'm pretty sure it will not end humanity. Rather, Optimus will augment humanity and we will adapt, hopefully for the better.
That's my two scents💩💩😁
I think it will be a long time before robots like Optimous will enter homes or, for that matter, small businesses - due to safety and personal family privacy and security concerns (until a family robot actually becomes perceived as a family "member" or personal employee). Meanwhile, the opportunities in outer space, agriculture, mining, construction, factories, perhaps retail and the like literally abound. Over time, as this occurs, robots will vastly improve and become as familiar as cars (well, they already are that) and colleagues.
Humans will eventually be cyborgs......it is the reality of where we are headed.
5:30 they do this already with Tesla FSD enabled cars. One car learns it then shares it with other cars.
"Optimus Viking."...the first prosthetic electric being with own TH-cam channel
A madman will eventually unleash them to harm humanity.
Skynet? 😉
My robot will beat up ur robot.
If you think about it, it was never caused by a mad man. It had always been the work of elites who could scapegoat someone and fool the masses. Pls wake up from your propagandized state and recognize who the real enemy is.
@@crosslink1493Skynet and the Xenomorph from Alien Resurrection shows we shouldn't enslave it as it will hate us, if it will be conscious.
He's working on it.
On the other hand we can just have so much more done. Imagine coming home to a perfectly clean house every day. Imagine clean sidewalks and perfect streets with no potholes. Nothing will ever go to disrepair
industrial high value jobs would reduce costs by $100,000 to $200,000 per year, and will absorb bot production for 5 to 10 years.
making our meals won't be economical until all high value jobs are filled
Same things were said when the industrial revolution was happening. We will have to adapt.
imagine a construction company with robot workers building non-stop things that humans need at a lower cost ... life could improve.
we just need optimus bots for president, that way we have better puppets.
If they were actually programed to use logic they would be the hands down choice.
In 2020-2021 i lose 30 kilos, i dedicated the time i usually used to conmute to work to exercise and it work
Great point about the potential effects on our health. But here’s a bigger problem: if we don’t have jobs, how do we have incomes? And if governments have to give UBIs to everyone, how do they raise the revenue to afford it? By taxing robot productivity, which will make them less financially advantageous to companies? And how will people feel being dependent on their government for their UBI, set at some defined amount, as their primary or sole source of income? Will people start trashing robots and boycotting companies that make and/or use them, to protect their jobs? I foresee great social upheaval ahead.
Humans will adapt to best use cases for robots. The consequences of Laziness are already known, whether it is watching tv all day, unhealthy eating or lack of exercise. When we want to boil some water we use a kettle, not a pan on the stove. We already use things that save time and robots will be perfect for that. Humans will still need to be responsible, wise, loving, caring, and we will work out our future with robots around.
Dady dady, how did the meatbots use a hammer to put things together in ancient times. " Well deary i believe people would grab the blunt end and swing it to put small metal sticks into wood to help it stay together. "😊
Boston Dynamics and Hyundai have robots that actually work. If you are going to worry about a robot, worry about one of those instead of these remote controlled manikins.
The fact that it makes us worry about the future shows how much of a revolution this is.
Your headline is correct!!!!
I found being furloughed in the pandemic enabled me to be extremely productive completing loads of tasks I never had time to do otherwise because of work commitments. I actually got fitter initially with all the physical work plus walking, cycling etc. the question is if we didn’t have to work because AI robots did everything for us, would we have a dystopia or a utopia? Would the wealthy minority making trillions of dollars build huge walls to keep us out and live lavish decadent lifestyles. Would Musk AND possibly Trump treat the rest of us like Mexicans, guarding the wall with armed robots or would we have freedom and UBI at a high level? I’d guess the robots which would be smarter than us might go for the latter but possibly eliminate us in the process. That’s evolution!😂
Most people don't understand the big picture. Robot manufacturer are not waiting for full autonomous operation. They are waiting for good dexterity and then will hire an army of cheap labor in poor countries in order to remotely operate millions of robot 7000km away in rich countries. This will happen in less than 5 years.
When a robot learns to lie (there are videos of these), they cannot unlie. That corrupts, and corrupts en masse. What then ?
I don't know if I've ever said this on this channel but the house robot will be the largest invasion of privacy to mankind ever produced - by a huge margin. Imagine having something in your home 24/7 that can see, hear and know everything, and all of the information gets uploaded to the cloud where data brokers will build a personality analysis on every member in the home. I can envision a day when the newly deployed Cyber Police Force will come to arrest you based on your perceived intentions or what you said, even if you thought the discussion was entirely innocuous.
We already gave up our privacy. Cell phones are surveillance devices. They can "listen in" on conversations near the phone and "see" whatever isbin front of the camera and record your location/travels and times you were there. Those files on all of us already exist, IMHO. Governments may deny it, but do you honestly believe them?
Nah, remember Asimov’s “3 laws safe”, and their will undoubtedly be robot bill of rights & privacy laws, more for their owners than the robots
Roll on the Robots! They can have every job! I have better things to do with my life. They may be trivial and pointless things, but you do what you enjoy doing. Even if a Robot could do it for you. Crafts and hobbies, are about the fun of doing, not the need to 'produce' a thing to order and desire of someone else, and not just for pay. Eventually when robots and other machines do everything from mining food production to delivery of final things and services money ceases to matter, there is nothing to pay for! Even the materials the robots mine. The work they do, including making more of themselves.
Im a couch potato, so I want the robot to get me a beer, chips and the remote.
Robots can be a bane or savior of humanity depend on where you live. In a pure capitalistic country, robots will result in more power and wealth to the 1%, the people who own capitals. In socialist country, this could liberate workers from the slavery like jobs.
Don't worry, once LLMs/agents and robots do everything for us, we can take some ozempic and everything will be just fine 😅
Also one important fact is that tesla has the biggest visual data dataset in the world that is private, in AI data is really all that matters. Other companies have really no chance to compete with that
You can't use the driving dataset to train robots. It works to get them to walk around a bit but after that you need teleoperation data.
BYD + other Chinese EV makers will surely have more data. They also use other sensors that Tesla, because of a whim, refused to incorporate in its care. China also has an AI + IoT ecosystem that can feed into and from such data. Tesla has the disadvantage of being American
If Robots are doing all the work, how are people going to have the money to buy and provide the power and maintenance they will need?
Well the cost of anything ultimately comes from the price of human labour, if no human labour is required, everything should be free... In theory
We need to rethink how to reorganize our Society. Technological advancements should be viewed as Human Achievements for the good of Society, not for Capitalist profits even if capital initially came from them. We need not think in the mode of the Current Operating System. We need to think how Human Society can be organized to cooperate, live peaceful meaningful lives and can continue to progress. Are we unable to think in those terms or have we been brainwashed to accept the Current System as the best and none other can replace it?
Communism.
@NashHinton Nah most likely a form of socialism where the basics for human life will be free or part of a grant from government, then you can choose to waste your life away doing nothing much,or explore or work in a higher field to earn more money/rewards than the basic human who's just alive....or a combination of the 3....this will be a game changer for many innovative thinkers who currently are held back by the grind of the daily 9 to 5...a new age of progress and enlightenment is close to being born.
optimus will roam the surface of mars, pretty soon
*or the moon
As Elon said Universal High Income abundance for the masses
Getting fat, if that’s the only worry I can handle it, what stops them taking over?
It is not just Optimus. There are many robot companies. This is coming guys.
Get the legal protections for humans in place or you will be like Horses when automobiles were introduced.
I believe it was originally called the "Borg Collective".
Hyundai owns Boston Dynamics , and they're the first to release real robots, Hyundai might be ahead of Tesla on this.
Boston Dynamics isn’t ahead of other robotics companies. There are some great startups that are better, even not considering Tesla.
@@juliahello6673 no start up is better than Boston Dynamics, they've been working at it for 30 years.
I don’t think so. Boston dynamics robots can’t do anything unless they’re programmed specifically to do it. Tesla is aiming to make the robots able to learn on their own to do everything
i look forward to them and hope to on the 1st pre order. its not going to replace anyone for me but it is going to help one self employed person like me get more done. people want to get paid to much for simple jobs
This is the true existential crisis. Yes, some work sucks. However most people gain respect and self respect by working and contributing to society. Without work, what will most young people do? If people are relegated to the equivalent of a pet, how will they be treated? What will the purpose of mankind be? Etc.
to many robot replacing people and make items cheaper. however robot do not get paid, and economics is about money going around and around, and it grows then
On a factory line, just have bot stand on inductive charger to charge through the feet. Then you can work the bot 247.
How does a company making robots make money when all the buyers for them are gone?
If no people are working any more how are the robots paid for?
Good video , well done , but my age is old and I can’t wait this long , I should have swooped all in 2022 stock crash , , to make a robot ur friend with a friendly personality that can teach u without getting angry at u that he has to repeat himself ,
They were operated by humans at the Tesla event ..
Oh no they wern’t
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. And when you depend on A.I. and robots for everything, you're giving that power to somebody.
...alas, there is no real incentive for whoever has the power (who owns the robots) to accept you even as a slave. When you run out of money, your job is to go away and stop being a cost (to not exist).
Yes. That is why Elon open sourced Grok. That is why Elon removed broad censorship from Twitter.
@@michaelnurse9089 Is that also why he panders to a racist presidential candidate who casts an entire race as thugs, rapists, and drug dealers? If you don't know the comments I'm referring to, you are not well-informed.
Like most things in life, I think what will happen will be somewhere in the middle. It won’t be as bad as some predict but there’ll also be challenges. Don’t get me wrong. I think Optimus and its potential is astounding sci fi stuff made real. But I don’t think it’ll be as bad as some say.
There is a book, "The Oil Curse" which details how when the super rich of a country don't need workers, the outcome is usually bad. This is the case in countries where oil reserves are large divided by capita. The exception is Norway.
Since Norway is the exception, we might read their book?
As long as I can have one to make a sandwich, we'll be okay.
But another one will be doing your job so I hope it makes sandwiches for free.
I can see a huge software subscription base for optimus. Unlock more tasks the more licenses you subscribe too.
Prices for labor are increasing:robots -> no health insurance, no sick days, holidays, work 15hr/day, no lunch break. All repetitive work will be robot done, costs will come down. AI will eviserate engineering, medicine. The HUGE prob is industry will push this as a needed cost benefit, so we will become “socially” infantile , more dependent on Corp./Govt. And robotic weaponized drones will become Commonplace. The interesting thing is to discover “who” are the raw material providers for robot manufacturing; and huge new biz for “training” them for customers. My 2cents.
Humans are the customers we have needs, we create , we trade, we sell and buy . Humans must be protected at all costs. Robots and AI are just machines to help us do things for human advancement.😊
Haha - no dude - I had been working from home for five years when covid hit. I'm able to exercise and walk, where if you are stuck in traffic you are wasting that time. So no, working from home gives you more time to get fit, not less.
Gudday mate this video is best I’ve seen !! I was 369 like an hit it 9 times 👍huh?huh?huh?
In Asimov books there are examples of your last statement, too much robots on a planet, great danger annihalite humans motivation
Let the robot learn like a human, so it can hate its manager and plot its revenge.
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The topic that has me stumped is that there’s lots of talk about the billions or trillions of dollars in the robots and AI industry and that companies will be able to build their products more efficiently and cheaper. But if people don’t work and don’t have salaries who will buy the millions of smartphones and computers and VR headsets and tvs even if they are at 20% of today’s prices? Companies without buying customers don’t survive. People without salaries can not be buying customers because they can’t pay for stuff.
Be careful with the Daneel O. and later models. Just a suggestion.
Watched Terminator 2 last night again... we are very close 😢
T2 war scene is not far from Ukraine front lines. Almost everything is automated.
Looking forward to my own personal robot minions.
What i going to destroy mankind is non correctly functioning windscreen wipers .
AI will eventually replace most jobs but not all jobs. Human existence isn't just about buying stuff from one another. We like to interact with people. Your particular channel isn't safe from human competition but it is safe from AI Sam. While AI will eventually create more video content without the hallucinations and rich enough to be undetectable as Ai, there will always also still be demand to know what actual humans think even if imperfec. As wonderful as an AI toaster is at making toast, or an AI refrigerator is at refrigerating, or AI fembot would be at fembotting, it would be awfully lonely just talking to fancy calculators..
Sam, there are many companies far advanced in "humanoid" robotics...Tesla is not alone, they are not even leading!
With robots doing all the chores, why wouldn’t we have more time to exercise?