Can You Beat DARK SOULS III With Only Summoned Weapons?

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  • @TheBacklogs
    @TheBacklogs  2 ปีที่แล้ว +364

    Thanks again to Khimyra for sponsoring this video! You can find them and their products at the link below:
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    • @spiralcrisis
      @spiralcrisis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      2 new ideas for Dark Souls 3 runs. Door shield only and weapon art only

    • @gillloteen9475
      @gillloteen9475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I noticed that katana zero ost background music

    • @BrightonsPriest
      @BrightonsPriest ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You sure I can’t talk you into a fist only run

    • @freshboy3968
      @freshboy3968 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh my, that Priscilla tail comment was quite an embarrassing videogame praise.

    • @decentkiller1236
      @decentkiller1236 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can you beat dark souls 2 using fist only weapons? Any fist only weapons are allowed with anything that can be used with them

  • @Qallyx
    @Qallyx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5054

    I mean, technically, you could've just summoned some friends and have them drop a good weapon for you... Technically a summoned weapon...

    • @capperbuns
      @capperbuns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +359

      InfiniteIQ

    • @redacted2740
      @redacted2740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      i mean he already did one just waiting on 2 and 3

    • @eat139
      @eat139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      nah that's a summoned bros weapon

    • @nikkimclellan-keizer7732
      @nikkimclellan-keizer7732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You did it, you crazy son of a B#%ch you did it.

    • @ravifox5559
      @ravifox5559 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      But he couldn’t…pc online services are shut down indefinitely until a certain security update can be made…even Elden Ring is launching without its online component due to this.

  • @monoclesquid9667
    @monoclesquid9667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2777

    The staff bonk is due to the staff’s length. Shorter staffs = less range, but also easier ‘sweet spot.’ Long staffs act like halberds and scythes with summoned weapons for the most part

    • @HeyAddieImTojo
      @HeyAddieImTojo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      Was looking for this answer, upvote this man! You are correct!

    • @fernandosales8320
      @fernandosales8320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +321

      I think it also factors in the fact that he didn't meet the strength requirements for the staves - you can see in the footage that when he one-hands them the staves show the red X for failed requirements. While he's two-handing the staves for the fights and thus meeting the strength requirements, that only works for the R2 bonk attacks - casting a spell is always a one-handed action.

    • @theapexsurvivor9538
      @theapexsurvivor9538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +135

      @@fernandosales8320 yeah, that'd probably do it. Hitting with the staff and not having enough strength is basically a guaranteed bounce.

    • @SystematicChaos1000
      @SystematicChaos1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      was also gonna say that it may have been that Wolnir has too much attack deflection for the staff. Which also would be explained by not meeting the strength requirement as mentioned earlier.

    • @Lexsed
      @Lexsed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Nah it's just the strength requirement, as the cast is considered using the staff one-handed basically. The chime and flame work fine since the base 7 Str is enough for those.

  • @eugene8803
    @eugene8803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2493

    A quick-tip for casting only runs. The saint-tree bellvine when equipped in the offhand increases your cast speed to maximum, you don't need the sage ring or dexterity.

    • @bongosmcdongos4190
      @bongosmcdongos4190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +282

      It fuckin what

    • @joaogomes9405
      @joaogomes9405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +419

      @@bongosmcdongos4190 You should also never skip getting enough strength to one-hand the staff you're using, like lemon did. That and him not understanding how summoned weapon spells' sweetspots work was why he kept bouncing all the time with spells.

    • @mkv2718
      @mkv2718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      i’m also wondering why he’s two handing a staff. it doesn’t do anything if his left hand is empty. no reason to not at least use a shield...

    • @ForeverLaxx
      @ForeverLaxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +159

      @@bentim7732 It does max it out. According to the Wiki it apparently provides +99 Virtual Dex for the purpose of spellcasting. Of course, your cast speed stops getting faster with 50 Dex so the number being so high doesn't matter other than to guarantee that you're always at max casting when you use it regardless of your leveled Dex stat.

    • @Skenjin
      @Skenjin ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks for the tip!

  • @zackwalker2172
    @zackwalker2172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1174

    "This spot marks our grave" probably the most heard line of dialogue in a ds3 challenge run...

    • @saltshaker8105
      @saltshaker8105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Fr twin princes are menaces to magic builds

    • @wexdust
      @wexdust ปีที่แล้ว +49

      "Return from whence thou cam'st for that is thou place of belonging"

    • @shathaan1763
      @shathaan1763 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      You may rest here too, if you like

    • @5stargrim
      @5stargrim ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Legit got mad at the prince and his constant shit talking lmao. He handled my cleric like a baby on my second run through the game; I expected it to be easy like it was for my first one, a heavily armored ultra great sword char. It was not

    • @cdogthehedgehog6923
      @cdogthehedgehog6923 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I never really got all the complaining about the twins. It took me like 7 tries with my dex faith build.
      Probably wouldve taken less if i dropped the faith part pfffffft

  • @wailord2642
    @wailord2642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1109

    "summon weapons are a completely viable PvP build if you're fighting Gamer's Weekend" That.. That killed me

    • @AaronCorr
      @AaronCorr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      On my last sorc run another sorc practically cut me in half in the ringed city with a summoned weapon. Stood at my next bonfire, back towards me. I walked up, they turned around while casting the strongest summon sword. Either I died right there or they poked me while I was flabbergasted.

    • @tylerwedl2109
      @tylerwedl2109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@AaronCorr the strongest summon sword is old moonlight, which has both the magic blade and a projectile, which makes for 2 hits up close

    • @T4XFRAUD
      @T4XFRAUD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sad kyle noises

    • @AgustinHaacker1026
      @AgustinHaacker1026 ปีที่แล้ว

      what does that mean?

    • @wailord2642
      @wailord2642 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@AgustinHaacker1026 he meant while fighting Kirk, and was referencing Gamers Weekend's thorn armor only run

  • @Dat_Scrub
    @Dat_Scrub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +975

    Dude that dark blade into life hunt scythe on Yhorm was actually slick as hell

    • @shadowrosegaming3566
      @shadowrosegaming3566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Ah the combo potential of summoned weapons beautiful

  • @PitchIncorrection
    @PitchIncorrection 2 ปีที่แล้ว +510

    “Never would’ve thought an NPC would give me so much trouble, though.” *flashbacks to Ymfah trying to beat Wilhelm in the Slav Knight Gael run*

    • @KainYusanagi
      @KainYusanagi ปีที่แล้ว +25

      And that brings flashbacks to the Orphan of Kos challenge fights...

    • @deadfurydbf9647
      @deadfurydbf9647 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Slav knight gael probably wears a tracksuit 24/7

  • @kins1952
    @kins1952 ปีที่แล้ว +447

    Lemon, the reason why your staff was bouncing off enemies (Tony in particular) is because the staff's length is also taken into account when using melee sorceries. If your staves hit anything considered a hard surface, the spell will bounce. Shorter staves are typically used in melee caster builds to reduce this factor, while the extra range can be nice, in PvP situations using shorter staves and getting in on someone with Flashsword can stunlock people who don't know how to get out of it. Goodluck next time you do this. :3c

    • @kobolds_den
      @kobolds_den 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      how does one get out of the stunlock

    • @hazeltree7738
      @hazeltree7738 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      @@kobolds_den Stop being stunned

    • @davidpotts7116
      @davidpotts7116 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      That's only if you don't have enough strength and dexterity to wield it. Roughly speaking, if a broken one-handed dagger can bounce off it then a staff without enough physical stats to wield will too

    • @kins1952
      @kins1952 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@davidpotts7116 Try it in DS3. Staves always bounce. It's a gimmick of melee sorceries.

    • @grimalkin6676
      @grimalkin6676 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@kins1952 I have done maybe 3 melee runs in ds3 and every other run was pure magic/faith including the summoned weapons and I can tell you I cannot actually think of any of my spells bouncing like his did in any of my runs. So I have to go based off what I have actively seen myself and what other people are saying in other comments that its based on your strength/dex and ability to actually wield the staff one handed. As Idk if I have ever two handed a staff now that I think about it.....

  • @PressContinue
    @PressContinue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2717

    We all heard it very clearly, didn't we? Backlogs literally and explicitly promised us that he WILL do DS1, 2 & 3 fist only next!

    • @TheBacklogs
      @TheBacklogs  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1242

      Please no.

    • @yov4042
      @yov4042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +284

      @@TheBacklogs Please yes.

    • @mrshiftyreckless7708
      @mrshiftyreckless7708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +138

      @@TheBacklogs you have no choice now

    • @vertclecintron7015
      @vertclecintron7015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +173

      @@TheBacklogs Dark Souls 2 is actually relatively easy (and fun) to do a fists run on. You just have to voluntarily up the difficulty to get the good moveset at the start.

    • @GorillaBorg
      @GorillaBorg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@TheBacklogs The pact is sealed.

  • @Dasgewt1
    @Dasgewt1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +639

    For the mirror images on the crystal mage, you can skip that phase all together if you don't start attacking him until he casts homing soulmass. He can't disappear while the spell is up, so if you can damage him down before it fires off you'll only ever fight the one mage. Just dodge the other spells til he casts it. not sure how the damage is on this build, but for future challenge runs it's worth considering.

    • @Gensolink
      @Gensolink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      you can also do 2 hit, go to the opposite direction of the remain soul masses, 2hit, and repeat until he dies or the mass fires off

    • @Nick-mp1zh
      @Nick-mp1zh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      To elaborate on what Genoslink said, the soulmasses will only fire off if you're directly in front of the Crystal Sage, in like a 120 degree arc or so in front. If you strafe around him hard enough you can keep out of his line of fire, which is what they do in the speedrun too if I'm not mistaken

    • @spankyjeffro5320
      @spankyjeffro5320 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      One of the rules of this run was no exploits. This counts as an exploit and can't be used. Interesting, though. :)

    • @Dasgewt1
      @Dasgewt1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@spankyjeffro5320 I didn't think manipulating boss ai counted as an exploit. I always considered it to be similar to baiting out an attack. It's not like you're breaking the ai like is possible with abyss watchers and others.

    • @The412Devil
      @The412Devil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spankyjeffro5320 having the summons fall down the ladder is an exploit too

  • @davidpotts7116
    @davidpotts7116 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    To all future melee casters out there, here’s some tips for this kind of run to help you guys out.
    1. Sadly, the Izalith staff that Lemon was using is the worst possible one. Has amazing scaling for quality casting, but the fact that it has such a long pole means that the spells will actually start nearer to the end of the staff. This means that you will be hitting with the sour spot of the staff much more often, only hitting with the actual staff itself rather than the magic blade. Start off with the Sorcerer’s Staff and then use the Court Sorcerer’s Staff when you get it. Both of them have amazing intelligence scaling, and have no sour spot thanks to the casting point being on your fist so you’ll be hitting for full damage every time.
    2. Always have enough strength and dexterity to use your catalyst. The reason why Lemon’s staff was bouncing the whole video? That’s why. Even when two-handed, the staffs can only go through a certain armor value before they start auto-bouncing like a melee weapon would. If you can wield the regular dagger weapon and it bounces off an enemy, then you can usually bet a staff you don’t have enough physical stats for will too. The only exceptions to this are the two aforementioned staffs, as they have no sour spot to bounce off of.
    3. The Saint-Tree Bellvine is amazing. Decent spell power, and it has the effect of the +0 Sage’s Ring - increasing your dexterity by 30 virtual points for the purpose of spellcasting. Also comes in handy with a health regen weapon art too, so if you take some chip damage that you don’t want to waste an estus on, you don’t have to wait until after Aldrich to get the Sun Princess Ring.
    4. If you want to use Flame Fan, you need to get the Pyromancer’s Parting Flame from the Ariandel DLC. Its flame burst on casting matches the range of the fan, hitting for roughly double damage each cast and shredding through enemy poise.
    These have been my tips that will help you optimize the build. Have a wonderful day and enjoy playing your FP management simulator.

    • @papafrank2894
      @papafrank2894 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Where do you get the ring?

    • @Jacob-df5hr
      @Jacob-df5hr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      This actually sounds like a lot of fun, thanks

    • @FokkeWulfe
      @FokkeWulfe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Any tips for someone who's never played Dark Souls, but is considering getting it.

  • @knightlypleasures3123
    @knightlypleasures3123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Imagine being a massive, building sized knight and a mage walks up to you, figts you and parrys your massive great sword with a casual back hand slap.

  • @superantiguy4347
    @superantiguy4347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +677

    Ok, so about the staff bonk, the reason your staff is deflecting is due to the fact you dont have enough strength to wield your catalysts one handed. When casting spells such as soul greatsword and flash sword you are considered using it one handed, as during the animation you use one hand for it even if you two hand it. The bonk happens to opponents with something called natural armor, and when you fail to meet the stat requirements for your weapon it'll just deflect right off of them. Similar thing happens with the pyromancers parting flame, don't have the stats you get the bounce with some spells.

    • @highlightermarca-texto3281
      @highlightermarca-texto3281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Isn't profaned flame a ranged spell?

    • @gryphose1849
      @gryphose1849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Perhaps you meant Demon's Scar ("curved sword" transmuted from the Demon Prince soul.)?

    • @superantiguy4347
      @superantiguy4347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@gryphose1849 I meant the pyromancies parting flame, I just forgot what it's called but the demon scar as well

    • @QuestionableObject
      @QuestionableObject 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He really never looked up why this was happening? Lol

    • @ctphipps97
      @ctphipps97 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can't you just 2 hand the staff??? (Out of the literal hundreds of hours I put into dark souls I never once used magic so Idk if you could dual hand the staves or not back then)

  • @dr.spudies1555
    @dr.spudies1555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +351

    I like how sell out backlogs is just the elite knight armor but with a skeleton inside.

    • @calemr
      @calemr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      His need for money drove him hollow.
      Which I think most of us can relate with, really.

    • @GeneralBison
      @GeneralBison 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Dead inside

    • @dr.spudies1555
      @dr.spudies1555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "Oh pitty thy soul, you've gone hollow.
      Welp no better than put thy poor mad, tortured soul to rest"

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@calemr The ideal end goal for Capitalism is the complete hollowing of the workforce, so they labor endlessly with no capacity for complaint.
      As it turns out, the key to escaping the Undead Curse is Unionizing.

    • @calemr
      @calemr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Bluecho4 Sunbros are socialist. Who knew?
      I guess that makes the Darkwraiths AnCaps.

  • @Nozthren
    @Nozthren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I know that a spellsword is usually a blade and spell user; but you've captured (for me anyways) what a true spellsword actually is. Spells becoming the weapons you use. Looked awesome and
    I really wanna play Dark Souls now.

    • @joshuaholland5279
      @joshuaholland5279 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought they’d use a sword instead of a wand to cast

    • @olu550
      @olu550 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@joshuaholland5279Dark Souls 2 has the Blue Flame, which is a sword you cast from. What makes it funnier is that since it's a weapon it can be buffed by resins or spells, which then buffs any spells cast from it

  • @cosmicfails2053
    @cosmicfails2053 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Idk if anyone else has suggested this, or if it's actually worth suggesting, but the Crystal Chime might have been useful in this run,
    Because
    1) it can cast both Miracles AND Sorcereries, so less catalyst juggling
    2) it's weapon art provides a heal so you can forgo Orange Estus a little to focus more on Blue
    3) it gives dual Int/Faith scaling to Dark Spells which I'm pretty sure the scythe is

    • @davidpotts7116
      @davidpotts7116 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That's Caitha's Chime that boost dark miracles. The Crystal Chime just allows you to cast both sorceries and miracles

    • @cosmicfails2053
      @cosmicfails2053 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@davidpotts7116 ah thank you
      It's been a while since I've played DS3 myself

    • @this_is_Muffin
      @this_is_Muffin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It scales with both, yes, BUT, doesn’t buff dark casting

  • @SwedetasticGames
    @SwedetasticGames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +261

    Lightning Arrow is arguably the best spell in the entire Soulsborne series for: mobility, you can hold and even cancel it, and does fantastic damage for it's manacost.

    • @stingerjohnny9951
      @stingerjohnny9951 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      It’s DEFINITELY the best Offensive Miracle in the game in terms of damage per mana and convenience. Plus it’s just fun to use.

    • @noalsono393
      @noalsono393 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see that, but dark bead is just a shotgun.

    • @SwedetasticGames
      @SwedetasticGames ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@noalsono393 For PvE, sure. Easier to counter than LA in PvP tho

  • @no.3_194
    @no.3_194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +319

    11:12 calling back to GamersWeekend’s armor of thorns run makes me so happy to be a fan of both of you 😭

    • @automat3000
      @automat3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol so happy 😭

  • @rolfknappmann
    @rolfknappmann ปีที่แล้ว +18

    26:30 - *Midir Laser avoiding pro-tip:*
    The lasers are not THE easiest to dodge, but they are quite easy to dodge, because all you need to do is look out for Midir jumping back TWO TIMES. He will ALWAYS do that before the one-shot laser.
    What to do? - run towards him, as soon as he starts jumping, so you'll be behind or at least to the side of him and the laser won't hit you.

  • @anwd8646
    @anwd8646 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    When you and Frieda traded kills you both had the same death animation. Awesome.

  • @theftking
    @theftking 2 ปีที่แล้ว +485

    One of the hardest-working people in gaming TH-cam lol. Sick vid.

    • @talosgak1236
      @talosgak1236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      *Reaction streamers making 1000x more by doing absolutely nothing of fucking value*
      Kinda sad

    • @AutumnReel4444
      @AutumnReel4444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, he does skip bosses, but overall yes very agreed

    • @dascreeb5205
      @dascreeb5205 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edohanma his videos are really well edited.

    • @gremlinman9724
      @gremlinman9724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ymfah, plateau peaks, and mitten squad are a bit more willing to waste their time imo

    • @MikeWeezyMusik
      @MikeWeezyMusik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gremlinman9724 ymfah does ones without walking lol 😂

  • @ArkainSpawn74
    @ArkainSpawn74 2 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    4:45 there is the vanquisher's seal in DS2 that makes fists do pretty decent damage, more so than ceastus, so don't completely write off fist only.

    • @joaogomes9405
      @joaogomes9405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Yeah, but you need to farm 50 awestones to get it. And good luck killing Rhoy 50 times in a row with fists only.

    • @PotassiumLover33
      @PotassiumLover33 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joaogomes9405 you could maybe try knocking him off the bridge? I used a dagger so idk if fists would stun him enough

    • @trustytrest
      @trustytrest ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joaogomes9405 just push him offthe bridge

    • @walkingglasses6264
      @walkingglasses6264 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@joaogomes9405 You could also make Rhoy... accidentally slip of a bridge and get his awestone...

    • @manjackson2772
      @manjackson2772 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@joaogomes9405 You can farm one of the early ogres

  • @noshlinson8520
    @noshlinson8520 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Lemons personality instantly drew me into the series, the fact that he plays souls games what exactly what i needed to instantly subscribe to his channel. Love the videos man

  • @kai_the_floofster1862
    @kai_the_floofster1862 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    10:08
    Probably my favorite part of the video.

  • @jranon9930
    @jranon9930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    Tried this once and never thought of the way of the white corona XD. It totally is a Xena weapon. This was a lot of fun to watch always love your editing. Glad you are getting sponsors and being awesome about testing them out for us first.

    • @quint3ssent1a
      @quint3ssent1a 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Coronavirus reference 😏😏😏😏
      I'm amazed that he found a (very niche) use-case for this miracle. It's so shitty you need to hamstring yourself badly for it to become even remotely good

  • @logans.7932
    @logans.7932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    “My plans were thwarted when the Crystal Sage cast Mirror Image” Backlogs you GOTTA do a challenge run or a just-for-fun playthrough in an old school D&D game like one of the Baldur’s Gates or Pool of Radiance lol

  • @zacksarge2756
    @zacksarge2756 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You gave me so many ideas for DS3 challenges. It is so fun to play over and over. Sometimes very agonizing but fun.

  • @eclipse8114
    @eclipse8114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    You know, it’s really hard for me to watch videos that are longer than 10 minutes, but you make it so easy to just keep watching without getting bored

  • @brokemage1395
    @brokemage1395 2 ปีที่แล้ว +408

    I have a challenge for you that might be up your alley.
    Can you beat dark souls 3 as a caster, but without buying spells?
    Rules.
    1. The only damage you can do is from spells.
    2. You can use any magic from any school as long as you don't buy it. If you find it, spawn with it, or given to you then it's usable.
    3. All armor, rings, etc is allowed.
    Feel free to edit the rules to make it more fun or try it with different souls games.

    • @TheBacklogs
      @TheBacklogs  2 ปีที่แล้ว +357

      Your name checks out.

    • @heyauser7702
      @heyauser7702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      If only old man could spare you some change ;-;

    • @nikolaosboukouvalas449
      @nikolaosboukouvalas449 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Sounds like a miracle build run as all the good sorceries and pyromancies are out. For a class, cleric has no starting damaging spells so either pyro or sorcerer. Pyro has higher faith, but his spell sucks. Sorcerer has better spells but low faith. Still the soul arrows can get you pretty far with some decent INT and heretic's staff and you can always respec later for the lightning spears and wrath of the gods. I'd go with sorcerer.

    • @lukasmuller3989
      @lukasmuller3989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Sounds interesting. like a hobo wizard

    • @brokemage1395
      @brokemage1395 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@TheBacklogs I honestly didn't consider my name when I thought of this. That's amazing. XD

  • @comradecatbug5289
    @comradecatbug5289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    The bounce happens when the staff (not only the blade) hits the enemy. That's why the swords (which were casted with staffs) bounced back but the scythe (which was casted with a chime) didn't.
    EDIT: For the bounce you also have to not meet the strength requiriment for the staff. If you meet the requiriments it's also possible to only hit with the staff part (and miss with the blade), dealing only about 5-15 damage. You have to be extremely close for this and the enemy has to be human sized or smaller.

    • @silentkhaos1176
      @silentkhaos1176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Neat to know. Never encountered this myself, but still nice to learn new things.

    • @theapexsurvivor9538
      @theapexsurvivor9538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It doesn't help that he had too little strength to meet the staff requirements as well

    • @highlightermarca-texto3281
      @highlightermarca-texto3281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@theapexsurvivor9538 Ah so this happens if you hit with the staff, and don't have the physical stat requirements to use it?

    • @theapexsurvivor9538
      @theapexsurvivor9538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@highlightermarca-texto3281 probably happens with either to some degree, but definitely the strength requirement needs to be met to not bounce, because the sword is treated as a 1H'ed attack even if cast while 2H'ing the staff, meaning that the entire blade will bounce most of the time (certain frames may not trigger the bounce animation, but will still do bounce damage).

  • @Retrovoider
    @Retrovoider 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Incredible video as always. I really love the obscure reference to Takeshi's challenge

  • @SchizoRoider
    @SchizoRoider 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like that you actually go thru every boss, most people that do stuff like this only do the required bosses

  • @Ben-ry1py
    @Ben-ry1py 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The shadow legends burn was one of the funniest things ever. That one joke was totally worth the price of admission!😂

  • @TheValiantBob
    @TheValiantBob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    With some of the spells and weapon arts we've seen in Elden Ring footage, really look forward to this challenge run being done again in that game

  • @Renecromancer
    @Renecromancer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the Bugdom music at 11:35! One of my favorite songs.

  • @namename2186
    @namename2186 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    People think the chosen undead is weak until they realise that you can literally parry eldritch horrors with your bare hands and kill them with enough punches too

  • @bankasai3120
    @bankasai3120 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I love this run, I did this after the release of the second DLC when I realize Midir's boss soul had a summoned weapon. I loved the build, especially because I usually don't use gimmick builds.

  • @mrreemann8313
    @mrreemann8313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Loved the concept behind summonable weapons in dark souls 3, even tried to make a build like you did, but gave up due to how restrictive they can be. Farrow flash sword was basically the only spell I could rely on.
    I adore the concept of a mage who wields no weapons, but summons blades to fight in glorious melee combat.
    I hope elden ring has better summonable weapon spells.

    • @sapateirovalentin348
      @sapateirovalentin348 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It does,Someone hacked the ntework test and disovered a giant summonable Hammer with a front flip attack and other equally cool stuff

    • @The_Bird_Bird_Harder
      @The_Bird_Bird_Harder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope you've enjoyed it. Can make whole builds around magic melee!

    • @onefastsled
      @onefastsled ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sapateirovalentin348 turns out that hammer is a weapon, but the Summoned Weapon spells are actually VERY good lol

    • @cthulwho9125
      @cthulwho9125 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@onefastsled There is also a giant summonable hammer as well though.

  • @matthewhughes1950
    @matthewhughes1950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually really enjoyed my follower's javelin only build it was a whole lot of fun just throwing javelins. They actually did a lot of dmg when u couple it with Leo's counter ring and a few other quirks

  • @charbelabouantoun8033
    @charbelabouantoun8033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    14:28 any one else said in his head this youtuber arrived to the emergency room with nausea

    • @miufke_
      @miufke_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A man presents to the emergency room with 40 int and no armor

  • @ruileite2634
    @ruileite2634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The delivery on "If it doesn't glow, it doesn't count" was really good!

  • @jans353
    @jans353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I simply adore the leaned-back voice over, makes me feel right at home here. Life gave me Lemon

  • @lylesinstrument-7908
    @lylesinstrument-7908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video was amazing I can’t believe I’ve never seen your videos before I can’t wait to see what other challenges you’ve done

  • @gregorlangemeier4116
    @gregorlangemeier4116 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting run and a super cool video! It's nice to see different spells getting the spotlight and not only one spell being the best solution to everything.

  • @noecarrier5035
    @noecarrier5035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    You're a diamond, man. Love your content. I'm really impressed by and appreciative for all your hard work.
    Even if you don't like Blasphemous!

  • @crankpatate3303
    @crankpatate3303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    funny how much trouble you had with midir, considering the lightning bow spell is one of the best weapons to use against him.

  • @flynnsmith3453
    @flynnsmith3453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:41 For Ds2 you can use the vanquishers seal for massive unarmed damage

  • @devinbuettgenbach2941
    @devinbuettgenbach2941 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Somehow I hadn't seen this one despite the fact that I'd have sworn I'd watched your entire library 10x over.

  • @vengefulbird6918
    @vengefulbird6918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Oh come on lemon you can do ds2, once you get the vanquishers seal its like 200 base damage + like b scaling 8n strength

    • @anarchistangel2314
      @anarchistangel2314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      "once you get the vanquisher's seal" is pulling a lot of weight here

    • @capperbuns
      @capperbuns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@anarchistangel2314 yeah...

    • @winterdragon2004
      @winterdragon2004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      There is that npc invader in the grave of Saints who's garunteed to drop Awestones that you can respawn with bonfire ascetics. So as long as he can get ahold of 50 ascetics he should be fine

    • @anarchistangel2314
      @anarchistangel2314 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@winterdragon2004 soonest ascetic farm i know of is Aldia's, is there an earlier one?

    • @winterdragon2004
      @winterdragon2004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@anarchistangel2314 actually, double checking my source, I think you only really need one to put it into NG+, it looks like the invader respawns when resting at a bonfire.

  • @TheDisplacerBeast
    @TheDisplacerBeast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    1:09 thats not a chimera i dont think. It looks more like a manticore.

    • @CrowofJudgement461
      @CrowofJudgement461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah brands and every day people don’t really know the difference since there have been so many depictions of chimeras as lion/goat/snake hybrids. It annoys me too but it’s just one of those things ya know?

    • @kemosabe8814
      @kemosabe8814 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's a manticore but I can understand why it would be called a chimera. Considering traditionally a manticore is supposed to have the head of a human, body of a lion, and the tail of a scorpion and the Sanctuary Garudian does follow a chimeras scheme of lion head and goatish body minus the wings and tail. If you want to see a proper chimera and manticore play Dragons Dogma.

    • @sgtpastry
      @sgtpastry 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chimera (Mythology): "The term 'chimera' has come to describe any mythical or fictional creature with parts taken from various animals, to describe anything composed of very disparate parts, or perceived as wildly imaginative, implausible, or dazzling." [en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(mythology)]
      Though, the chimera is also a specific beast.

    • @TheDisplacerBeast
      @TheDisplacerBeast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CrowofJudgement461 yeah.

  • @marcellokastro1947
    @marcellokastro1947 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you wanna do this here's some "summon weapons" you can use 1. Fireball 2 all lightning spears 3 fire wipp 4. The special ability in the pontiff knight curve sword

  • @xul5491
    @xul5491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This honestly looks like a really fun build to play with, i might try this out myself

  • @SD-oi9gr
    @SD-oi9gr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I love watching these challenge runs without having to literally watch countless hours per run. Thanks for the editing!

  • @rancidzulu7443
    @rancidzulu7443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    26:40 it's way easier to just go running directly up to him. I always do that and I can't remember the last time I got hit by that laser

  • @kurtwagner307
    @kurtwagner307 ปีที่แล้ว

    just found your channel a few days ago, my man you tell a great story and am loving all the content. you sir are a bonifide badass

  • @HasbinBouble
    @HasbinBouble 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love these vids, starting to run through them all! Keep it up!

  • @mofarhan3275
    @mofarhan3275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    The real tragedy is the fact that soul “spear” is technically a summoned weapon, it would have made this so much easier

    • @tipsybak
      @tipsybak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      yeah and lightning spear as well

    • @tipsybak
      @tipsybak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@deadhookerproductions1068 i was saying that based of the original comment. Lightning spear is just as much a spear as soul spear.
      Besides, lighting arrow is also according to you not technically an arrow since it is also a forward-piercing like attack yet lemon used it in the video anyway

    • @jeboynton
      @jeboynton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@deadhookerproductions1068 I mean, to be fair… way of white corona isn’t a summoned weapon either. It’s a DBZ destructo dish, not really a summoned weapon

    • @crabsterzgt1692
      @crabsterzgt1692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@tipsybak I mean are you pulling back an arrow with a bow? but are you thrusting with a magical spear? No.

    • @sileopatronus
      @sileopatronus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jeboynton its easily described as a chakram

  • @Ahammerdown
    @Ahammerdown 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The bit at 8:22 was delivered so well. Also I've been persuaded into making an int character for the first time ever because of this video now. This should be fun.

  • @gabadaba5436
    @gabadaba5436 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love watching ds3 now and seeing the elements that came out of Bloodborne, as well as the elements that would carry over into elden ring. It's just vaguely familiar but still clearly different

  • @ImmortalTimothyM
    @ImmortalTimothyM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is basically how I played the game on my first playthrough. Sword Sorcery build was actually a ton of fun. Though I also used some soul arrows.

  • @gamblersluck
    @gamblersluck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I feel like the aquamarine dagger could have been used. Its weapon art summons a sword.

  • @GunRunner106
    @GunRunner106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    follower's spear is technically an actual "real" summoned wpn...

  • @TheXBladeist
    @TheXBladeist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gotta say, this was a great treat. The impact of the slapstick gags made me oh so very joyful Lemon. Keep it up!

  • @TylerSmith-om1cr
    @TylerSmith-om1cr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ever since I played a sorcerer on lkke my 3rd ds1 run I’ve always loved the play style and been using it all the way up to ds3 and probably will do it when I get elden ring too

  • @jeremiahbennett3004
    @jeremiahbennett3004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've actually used these spells in my sorcery build, and early on they're pretty good

  • @alansmith6310
    @alansmith6310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    so you wont do fist only, huh?
    *Do kirk roll damage only then*

    • @lionheart4109
      @lionheart4109 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even better: kick only in DS1.

  • @thundertwonk1090
    @thundertwonk1090 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually did a run like this a year ago, but I used Logan's staff and then the Crystal Chime for mobs, Ivory Talisman, and Caitha's Chime, with a simple Caestus offhand for parries and FP regen. Honestly a fun run IMO

  • @mdHugh
    @mdHugh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    29:27 I didn't realize Comet Azur was in DS3... crazy how many things they re-used for Elden Ring

  • @quinten2811
    @quinten2811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Incredibly underappreciated TH-camr! You are an absolute legend who makes amazing videos. Keep up the the good work and you'll reach 100k subs and even more in no time!

  • @-Shinoray-
    @-Shinoray- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Always wanted to try a run Like this. But i haven't gotten the time to play a lot lately.
    Nice to See you deliver in my failing ;)
    Keep it stront Lemon you content is Diamond and Gold together.

  • @Mrnamcak
    @Mrnamcak 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man i really love your videos. I found you today on TH-cam and i can say I watched a lot of your content :D love you and your style. Keep up good work

  • @mikoro88
    @mikoro88 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your content is great! I love the voiceover and adlibs!=) Good work.

  • @JustShir0
    @JustShir0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Crown of Dusk would have come in handy this run, it increases your magic damage by 10%! (At the expense of taking a bit more)

  • @CubedQ
    @CubedQ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wait… you found a use for Way of White Corona? I never thought I’d see the day anyone would. Even in a challenge run.

    • @Schmeatboy
      @Schmeatboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You didn't know the power of the corona? Pathetic...

  • @alexmacdonald2000
    @alexmacdonald2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aside from gundyr and vordt that looked like a pretty fun run! What's been your favorite challenge run you've done so far? I've found shield-only in ds1 and ds2 to be a ton of fun.

  • @CleanAndDistorted
    @CleanAndDistorted 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's such a cool way to tackle yhorm, been binging your videos. Awesome stuff

  • @hephesto555666
    @hephesto555666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome stuff, plus this one actually looks like a fun rather than purely frustrating challenge! Plus I doubt most folks have even played around with Way of White Corona.

  • @newdayjesus6027
    @newdayjesus6027 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You sir, have earned my sub. I love challenge channels and your sense of humor hits good sir ❤️

  • @unclaimedusername6608
    @unclaimedusername6608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fist-only is fine as long as you allow for fist weapons. The caestus carried me until i got the demon fists and from there I was basically undstoppable. Just remember your backdash attacks and to have your caestus in your offhand for parry purposes and you're golden.
    Now, if you want to *truly suffer* then I recommend beating the game using only the dragon stones. That is a hell I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

  • @chrisfletcher7598
    @chrisfletcher7598 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved the Takeshi challenge reference. Made me chuckle and reminisce watching it on Saturday mornings as a kid.

  • @tomwatson1258
    @tomwatson1258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've never seen any of these weapons bounce off, I swear that's only if you fail stat requirements. I feel we need old man to teach us about this

  • @skyprior3866
    @skyprior3866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yes, yes, YES! I've wanted this for so long but I've got other thing to do in ds1 also fists is fair, it's what everyone has, they're permanent summoned weapons! The Sponsor Bit was great, yhorm must been an interesting fight if you didn't know the cheese which I learned not knowing about storm ruler. Its funny friede and gael are easy cause once you beat him once you got to perfect the timings then you've already done it and you have all future tries, which is a very fair system and proves how ds3 works, its a very fair game if you spend the time and you spent all the time. This was a good bit to tide us over till elden ring thank you and to the editors, family, friend's, patrons, and finally you lemon have fun and be excellent to each other.

  • @Demonix_Heller
    @Demonix_Heller 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You should do this run again with Elden ring summoned weapons, lots of stuff and even an incantation if you’re feeling up to the faith requirement

    • @TREVORVADER
      @TREVORVADER 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The spells like this in ER are pretty good if you use them right.
      Carian Slicer is one of the strongest spells in the game at times.

  • @FeatherMelody
    @FeatherMelody 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to love doing this kind of build. Farron flash sword and darkedge are underrated imo
    One of Aldrich rings and wearing the executioner blade on your back helps a fair amount with fp management(esp if you plan to invade), and murky long staff/izalith staff effectively turn flash sword into flash halberd
    Just wish crystal chime was better

  • @Stinker9753
    @Stinker9753 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your videos are way more fun to watch than other peoples, you always make them great 🤩😀

  • @coraline2770
    @coraline2770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So hype to see this love more backlogs

  • @crumplepunch312
    @crumplepunch312 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember Immolation Tinder + Farron Flashsword being my favourite magic weapon combo back in the day. It's not the strongest, but it has incredible reach.

  • @Buden276
    @Buden276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    it's crazy to see how different ppl struggle with different enemies. As you said you hated midir I was like: holy heck mididr is literally one of my favorite bosses of all time and I find him and his movement so easy right now :D

  • @ninacochrane569
    @ninacochrane569 ปีที่แล้ว

    So fun fact about that Bounce mechanic. I tested this run myself a little while ago, and it's to do with strength requirements for Staves. While you are wielding the staff in 2 hands, there is no "2-Handed Swing" animation for the Sword Sorceries, and so they are swung one handed. Since you only had 7 strength with a 8 strength required staff, the bounce happened because you don't *technically* meet the stat pre-requisites to use it. It's not intuitive at all, but that's the game mechanics at work.
    (of note, this only effects you for enemies that are hit by the staff and the sword-energy)

  • @burgroslav3542
    @burgroslav3542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Come on man, you have done Salt and Sanctuary fist only, Dark Souls surely wont be that hard. In DS2, fists can deal a really decent damadge when you farm awestones for Covenant of Champions to get a damadge boost ring. Also amazing video, keep on going.

  • @TheSinfulGamer
    @TheSinfulGamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like how the massive piles of Ash in the Cinders fight is like "Look at how long this fires burned!" but when you finally step up to link it, you get nothing but embers, and sit solemnly, wondering if this is right

  • @Omniblade_Gaming
    @Omniblade_Gaming ปีที่แล้ว

    Blaster Master stage 2 in the background music love it lol

  • @assassin72007
    @assassin72007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really enjoy all the content that you make always has me laughing my ass off at your reactions and the animated sceans Please keep up the good work.

  • @vicortega2159
    @vicortega2159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well, you can do dark souls 2 fist only run, it's pretty easy. You just need rank 3 in covenant of champions and from there it's a cakewalk

    • @vicortega2159
      @vicortega2159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yo, actually if you cheat yourself the Vanquisher's Seal, it probably would make a fun run

  • @dragonlord4898
    @dragonlord4898 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Promotion Skip Button: 2:37

  • @jakubixon4005
    @jakubixon4005 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video got me to play Dark Souls 3 and I don't know how to feel about it.

  • @RAV3.
    @RAV3. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your content man nice and simple yet vibrant. You are very underrated and will take my sub.

  • @RelativelyBest
    @RelativelyBest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This has probably already been pointed out, but at the start of Ringed City it's landing in the dredge heaps that negates fall damage, otherwise it works the same as always.

  • @bobbydonley7528
    @bobbydonley7528 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I started a challenge run like this in Elden Ring. It started out fun, but there are some bosses that have absurd magic resistance like Rennala so I'm saving her for later. Loretta is also kind of a pain but once I get more magic or more flasks I should beat her pretty easy.
    I took a break from the run but this makes me want to get back to it!