I thought Vale was not good anymore...How wrong I was

[@raionml]

I miss the old Vale. His old mechanics where you get to choose between CC or burst skills is what made him unique in-game.

[@Screeching_bird]

Yeah but the burst path outshined the CC one in almost any senario, except for the tornado, but thats just because the other one just sucked

[@berliandro]

But everyone will pick the same path, so what's the point

[@jdaniels4898]

Problem is, old vale had BOTH cc from skill2 and damage from skill1 and ult, so i don't understand how people claim that "now he has better cc". Now he has about the same cc, with no damage at all, regardless how you build it, it won't be the same. With skill1 and 2 he barely scratched that Alpha...Tanks will be just able to walk you down, taking all your skills and still coming at you, if your teammates are shite, and not ready to use the moment, while he is knocked up. Which is common for soloq. So many times i found myself in such situation, when we were just outgunned from the start of the game, as enemies don't have to respect your damage as it was before (cc is mostly unchanged, as his pull from ult is just a joke, enemies can just walk out of it without much issue, so your only reliable cc is still skill2). Before, they were getting enough of damage, which made them be more cautious, retreat and regroup and stuff, now he is much less of a value team player, as old Vale could do EVERYTHING new Vale has now, all while having considerably bigger damage output. 😐

[@carltolentino3471]

@@berliandroi dont

[@elpapuxDDReal]

​@Screeching_bird not really lol, once you see the disadvantages with damage vale you would use cc ult plus damage tornado combo, if you trapped more than 1 person it was a guaranteed kill of the 2 and if not he would be heavily damage.
Plus now vale doesn't counter glu

[@clownhcr2734]

Vale, for me went from a burst mage to a supporting mage due to his CC ult.

[@piishang8626]

Fr

[@MyTran-gn4rk]

You prob could just pick Nana as a burst mage since she’s like the most picked in every rank bracket right now ever since her buff. Vale’s new 2nd skill and ultimate makes him good for zoning and control and while yes, his damage is lower than the damage upgrade iteration, It is still enough to kill squishy when he starts scaling with some items.

[@darkdarts8689]

Try cd build with cd boot, light tr., book, power crys, blood w, 1def item or pene...

[@elpapuxDDReal]

Fr

[@Miumiu0404]

Layla really shines in chaotic team fights like this. She gets easily ignored. Probably why she will never be picked in high level or pro scenes. Pro players know better than to ignore her.

[@yanzin2u]

The Layla carried the team in the end, she may have struggled earlier but her damage just melted Alpha haha

[@robinbooysen1068]

And then there is me, who bullies all the layla players with Wanwan

[@goofygoober1057]

@@robinbooysen1068idk what kinda server you in but those Layla players dog shit I mean come on let’s face the facts Layla erases Wan late game she has more range than her Wan can’t get close to her late game

[@lewis0285]

@@robinbooysen1068and you probably have only met the dumb laylas

[@skylarduckky3389]

@@robinbooysen1068 low rank :

[@benji7449]

His rework is such a nerf,now you literally need to use all of his skills to one shot heroes,before his ult and his second was all you need,basically eudora 2.0 with more cc before all you needed was the ult and second combo

[@jamezjamez5572]

Nope, use support emblem and use the build similar to Lylia, spec on mov speed on tier 1 and tier 2 IF there are sustain heroes like Ruby, Uranus, Estes, and much more

[@SrilekhaDutta-cz9vu]

Yeah just skill is needed extra right now

[@davidking360]

So you’re saying he needs skill to use now?

[@variamente6855]

Vale is no longer a one shot mage and that is by intention, you're supposed to play him as a support ultility mage now. Quit complaining and adapt to it

[@babyunicorn7954]

I stopped playing nana and vale after revamp, but ima try vale and hope I like it

[@overdosegaming4677]

Bro, he had such nice and unique skill sets before rework.I have no idea why they did him like that

[@somedude8131]

1:06 Ah yes, my favorite mm, dyrroth.

[@Alyx_Knight]

😂😂

[@tictoe7701]

@Betosky 😂😂

[@itgirl8674]

If Betosky says so then yes he is a Marksman.

[@noonereally_]

Xd

[@fernandonunez7108]

lets be real, mm always dies first

[@Delita22]

for me, it's not his damage that's the problem... it's his unique versatility where we can chose to prioritize cc or damage.

[@RTONL]

Sure, his unique versatility where everyone still using that same burst type damage, is so much "unique". Like, I have never seen many players even use the CC version of his skill, but just that same skill set, because everyone wants a kill, not to support someone. So, I kinda choose the latest revamp of Vale, because its more honestly better, when you get your skill up to lvl 4, than waiting for level 8 to have that damage ult.
Its not about the uniqueness that shapes Vale, but only the damage because people like to one shot everything.
But if I have the ability to control everyone in a distance, then lucky me, I can still spam his CC like there's no limit.

[@alanedgarfillinpillin8880]

​@@RTONL you get the control ult and the damage tornado, glowing and blazing wands, maybe even winter: you use your ult, then tornado and an enemy (the more the better) just melts away. That was one of the two ways to play Vale. There were two, not one.

[@iWizxrd_]

0:59 dyrroth is truly one of the marksmen of legends of mobile

[@locnguyen5635]

😂

[@Aimdoo]

He truly was a unique hero...rip

[@TEMCHA12]

Old vale : i can make anyone shit in their pants
New vale : i shit my pants when i see an enemy
Edit : i didnt expect for this to get 229 likes

[@cosmiclives111]

Yeahh I'm so disappointed he was my main hero 🤧

[@guestjois7352]

Old vale : i can scare all and one shot even the tanks most of the time
New vale : i cant scare shit and never one shots anyone

[@yanzin2u]

Really frustrated on the "barely one-shotting" them. Like how did you live through Vale's combo and escape with your life??

[@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx]

Whenever I see a Vale pick, I just counter him with Arlott.
I only lose to Vale if some Tigreal user stun-locked me to oblivion.

[@TEMCHA12]

@yanzin2u its just for joke no offense here okay?

[@campingscorpion5522]

as a vale main, one thing to note now is that his first skill is his main damage output now, as long as you can hit both wind blades it will do a decent chunk of damage

[@Catalyst_Zzz]

6:47 that epic killsteal by diggie tho

[@vinceojeda7215]

😂😂😂😂. Underrated comment

[@jamezjamez5572]

Betosky, use support emblem and spec to mov speed if there are sustain heroes, go for the Lylia build
Edit: main gimmick of this is just rotate often and get assists, with the help of the mov speed specs from what I recommended

[@a-noobis1689]

Yes, his mov. Speed late game is insane and he's better off being an annoying skill spammer

[@ispeakcockney5387]

I don't think your build will work for solo queue because the damage is bad. Relying on your teammates to be the damage dealer is very difficult

[@BryanAdams022]

Epic

[@AbdulHaseeb-pk7nq]

The humble personality ❤
Watching from Pakistan, mianwali ❤

[@vladislavkurasov4028]

Grapeeeee 👏

[@rabbyte4243]

Boom 💥

[@yvreii8990]

Lmaooo I ain’t never playing this man again, I’m so sad they do him like that

[@lyndaek99]

Me too. As an ex vale main

[@crazycat757]

i love beto missed his skills again and again😂
feels like beto is 1:48 also human.😂
1:53

[@i-dk.]

1:07 "To avenge our marksman"?

[@sumanborua7249]

6:46 that diggie ks tho.

[@KazeKage_B]

Those digie bombs in the end tho 😝🤣🤣 He's such a menace!! Can you try Natan next please?

[@KYOOOKKOO123]

Burst vale is definitely fun to use but this utility mage vale is not that bad too. You can cc your enemies to death.

[@jivraj2110]

Another thing about the new vale is that the little tornado he leaves at the end of his skill 2 can be used to check bushes. It will reveal the enemies even if it doesn't it them.

[@user-yu3mh8rz3g]

But the cooldown of skill 2 is too long.

[@jivraj2110]

@@user-yu3mh8rz3g it's still useful in the late game when nobody has towers left.

[@flohoshino4974]

​​@@user-yu3mh8rz3g Also if you have 45% CDR, it can be as spammable, since it only has 5 to 6 seconds.

[@elpapuxDDReal]

​@@jivraj2110oh well you could do that with the old vale, and it would also leave a tornado down too, now it just stays in one place which is kinda easy to avoid

[@jivraj2110]

@@elpapuxDDReal no.

[@acehunt0403]

1:05 i guess dyrroth is a marksman now😂

[@WhyIsMyNameTaken]

1:07 dyrroth's honor turned to dust cuz he is being called a marksman

[@zahinmzi2439]

15 June 2024,I downloaded my ml back and plays a classic match,and then I saw Vale's ultimate being orange so I was like "This guy did not choose either red or blue" and then I noticed that Vale received a revamps

[@KirbyStoic]

Imagine tigreal and vale ult such a deadly combo💀, no escape for you

[@DREAMGHOST17]

I know you won't answer me, but my friend has been playing for four years, and I have been playing for about a year, and he challenged me to win against me when he uses Son against Arlott, and I say the opposite. Then he defeated me and kept provoking me and saying that Arlott is weak, so I ask you: Is Arlott good or bad against Son? If you see the comment, put a heart so I know it is bad or not, and put a dot or anything if it is the opposite, and thank you for reading all of this.

[@reaperandyel]

He took more time to power spike now but on the contrary, he can support his team earlier with s2 cc.
Personally, I go for Clock of Destiny first since we're not going crazy in early game anyway and the Elegant Gem can provide a lot of sustainability to farm longer as well.

[@DimoDimoo]

Or you can think the opposite to not go Clock so that you reach your power spike quicker.

[@deadman873]

Let's face it, COD is dead .....

[@flohoshino4974]

I think ET is more better than COD, since LT doesn't scales Mana anymore but Magic Power.
If you want to have sustainability, 2nd talents like Festival of Blood, or Tenacity can help you.

[@iamnobody350]

I think vale is mainly a poke hero now, which is fine since he's supposed to be a utility mage. Just build CD reduction and you're good

[@HARITH-MLBB]

3:00 man that layla 🤣🤣

[@Gord_Plays]

Tbh the old vale was more deadly. With old vale i got 70% winrate in 250+ matches

[@argussahamai6956]

That KS was karma because of your last Nana match. 😂 3:00

[@wokeydokey6885]

Fun fact about vale: put on the move speed talent and bonus move speed in jungle talent along with the support emblem and with vales passive and any boots, you'll have more move speed than sprint.
You could go anywhere in the map with a few seconds and no one, even an ulted zilong is going to catch you.
I've been asked by players if I'm hacking while i use this because of my move speed.

[@yobyobquiano53]

The only thing that I don’t like about vale is the fact that it’s so easy to get out of his ult 😢 especially heroes that have dashes that don’t rely on flicker too much

[@lnarius]

Avenge our valued marksman Dyroth 😂

[@AbdulRazakShamsudin]

Hallo bro thanks for making this videos it's really make me have an advance on how to play it 😊❤ shout out from Malaysia 🇲🇾

[@sandym162]

I rarely played him lately but you said he's not that bad so I must try him again with your talent and item builds. Thank you god Betoo. Have a day full of beautiful things and stay healthy❤

[@Mudkipz-rt8li]

The rework of LT also impacted his damage output cuz it's impossible to reach 1000 in real matches

[@yaagodourado]

New Vale lacks so much damage. He barely can burst a mm. In the old times, he would burst a tank! Just his second+first skill in late game was capable of one-shoot most mm. But now...

[@dapidminiAiki]

agreed. as a Vale main (he was the first mage hero I bought), I do miss his old version but his current version is also bad*ss.. I just hope people won't start banning or picking him more often

[@Samantha-Sapphire-Shores]

I didn't know Dyroth was a marksman😂

[@crowofjudgement8810]

Yeah I tried him today for the first time and while you do often need the 2, 1, 3 combo to 1 shot someone, his cc is stronger now and his skills have a short cooldown, longer range and casting speed, unless the enemy had a cc immunity ability or dashes or flickers away before the ult explodes then almost nobody can escape. Because of his passive as well its very easy to chase or run away from enemies, you can run into a teamfight pop your combo and then be out.

[@kcinos2524]

It's been 2years watching ur videos beto .this is my first comment I like how you play n ur explanation ✨

[@bambam2829]

Now that there's an AOT collab announced maybe just maybe Betosky will finally play Fanny with the Mikasa skin..

[@b1_nkK.]

I think it's better for him to have 2 knock ups (first is the first contact, then 2nd is if the tornado becomes static). There's no point in having a static tornado if you successfully combo it with his ult (meaning if you do 2nd-ult combo)

[@reality_0169]

I liked old vale better, now i cant even get kills at early game when using vale

[@scoutneptune5040]

I hated what they did with Vale. I had 70% wr with him and now I don’t even dare playing him in rank. He’s taking so long to deal real damage and burst. He was fine the way he was, moonton ruined him.

[@karthiiraja17]

its the 10 kill or 10 assist movement speed passive makes vale feels smooth to play .That what makes vale feel more powerful

[@mrlee9213]

If you rub in between your toes and bring it to your nostrils you will unlock vale’s new meta power 😂

[@edgarenevldsen6702]

Fun fact, you can play vale as a support roam with his rework, just buy all cooldown items (CD boots, Tailsman, Fleeting time) then ice queen sword to apply slow on enemies for ur team, then necklace for anti heal, feel free to buy glowing wand for extra lingering damage. and also use support emblem and you can literally spam ur skills instantly 24/7 due to cooldown build and tailsman giving infinite mana. such a broken build.. infinite CC.

[@lakraknjeprak2536]

he and vexana is actually cc lord that could be useful if the enemy team have low mobility and weak to crowd control. and your team should've picked wombo combo by picking tigreal, atlas, or guinevere for example. and ofcourse this won't work if the enemy team picked too much high mobility heroes or cc immunity such as martis, masha, hanabi, wanwan, ect.

[@AstroSnipe23]

Before he had such cool skills cuz we could actually upgrade skills and choose which one we would want and they were very cool

[@user-lp6xn6jl8w]

I find the new vale to not really go with me anymore. What i loved about Vale was his burst damage. I never trust the team i get in soloq so it was good to pick off mm and mage during teamfights but now? It isnt really viable. Any hero with dash can escape or eat me alive. Mm with gold rose meteor or Athena Shield are unkillable now

[@cyborgguardian]

Time to issue a real challenge 🙂
Video # 155 where I ask Beto to be toxic and trash talk opponents and teammates (only if teammates are doing bad).

[@user-yu3mh8rz3g]

As an ex main vale, still not convinced after watching this video, though I desperately hope that a useful build could revive my Vale from coffin (spent diamonds buying all Vale skins). With those greedy enemies and late game allies, every single mage could do the same victory as Beto achieves. With him not being burst, there are many others heroes with better utility functions and with higher damage, hence why vale? He does not stand out. So still holding hope for developers to buff him a little to make him at least able to slash enemy HP by more than half with full combo when it comes to third item.

[@Chess_Savvy]

I have a feeling Betosky is going to play Fanny when the AoT skins come out. Fingers crossed. 8

[@healerdance7]

Vale used to delete mm with only first spell, not talking about ulty.
Now first spell only tickles and ulty can't one shot even Layla.

[@aadigamer971]

Vale was struggling a lot 😭😭😭

[@deadman873]

I think all burst mages got indirect nurf after COD and LT adjustment(neef). I used to play Eudora a lot. After getting COD and LT I would just stay in the bush and one shot any unfortunate souls that pass by. Now its really hard to one shot anyone in the early to mid game.

[@zackzoom8779]

Eudora is still strong, use genius wand then glowing wand. If you aren't able to one shot the squishies, they may have that talent where they get defenses below 50% hp or they bought magic resist cloak

[@MarcusTJX]

Nah, It's much worse compared to last time 😭😭😭, basically no longer a one shot without high penetration

[@toxicfan6521]

6:48 how did diggie managed to get that kill damn

[@nikhilshah8700]

I'll tell you what to do now with vale as per my opinion I've used. Use his ultimate first now to gain enemies in middle then use second skill and then first skill for final damage. This is his new skill set Ultimate>Second Skill>First Skill. This works very well now. I used to love him before revamp one. Well try for yourself this combo. Hope it helps.

[@hatzawlam7793]

Diggie really has master kill steal

[@omegasteve8485]

At times he seems very dependent on his ult as it pulls the tornado into it along with the enemy so the glowing wand damage does a majority of the damage

[@1.020am.]

U need Arcane boots,Genius wand, Glowing wand,divine glaive, holy crystal,last item can be anti heal, immortality,winter truncheon, bloodwing

[@zackzoom8779]

Genius wand can be skipped, and just focus on holy crystal and bloodwings for his skills scaling damage

[@TayZa_Aung]

What the heck!! Buff available dots disappeared after they were taken out by the opponent team in beto's mini map? Why this isn't happening to me? I always need to check my buffs even though i already knew they were eaten by the enemy!

[@Stfuim_speaking22]

Try putting ice queen wand on your build it is amazing

[@Linkandzeldarules]

@06:45 I had no idea diggie could kill steal as an egg. 😮

[@Matsuna13]

That can happen, because his egg form has a bit of damage

[@Linkandzeldarules]

@@Matsuna13 I mean yeah I get it… but I guess I just didn’t expect that it could actually happen.

[@zapyouth6381]

try Zhask with the inspire spell, you can now use inspire after ult.

[@kenji6747]

I only have one problem with the new vale
Its that his ult doesnt have built in magic penetration now

[@nazheenmohamed4891]

Vale really got nerfed...but somehow i managed to make better vale with the proper build....but i really miss the old mechanics.

[@akashgurung3477]

After revamp I don't even want to play vale anymore, I have 70+win rate with vale... Revamp killed it..

[@trafalgarleaf]

They made Vale just like any mage out there, a CC burst type hero

[@Violet_0_0_]

I still remember that u said you will give Lou yi a try😢

[@JSFrederic]

The damage drop is just to make you more aware who to aim for

[@onest1567]

Day 4 of asking Betosky to play Chou as a jungler

[@mysteryhobo2]

Now Eudora is the only mage left with one shot ability, hope moonton revamp her next...😅

[@bizarre00gal]

Late game Vale can still burst. I like that I can have that early CC
Tho I may be biased cos I love Vale and his fast feet

[@adersonnyt]

Totally felt how the Alpha feel @ 4.49 of ur vids...hate those feeling entering the game thinking that it is guaranteed win suddenly realized there is an even better player in the field building up....

[@indialegends5785]

From where you got those background musics?

[@kiekozuniga3347]

This is the second time i saw Betosky spamming the recall. Hahahahaha

[@DimOn-mc5de]

B4 revamp vale catches you with second skill and ult, you are like „it was at this moment that you knew, you fked up“.
After revamp vale catches you with the same and you are like „yaa so cute bro“🗿

[@ejazali-pw9yd]

Or How about Selling boots When have full Stacks on Passive and Buying a Magic Damage Items To Get better results in the end game

[@GenXGamingZone]

I feel cheated, i just bought his collector skin a month before his nerf, don't even try to convince me it's a revamp. Now he's total garbage of a mage

[@Abhay_Pandey_1]

Luck will always remain a factor of winning

[@zackzoom8779]

Skill will reduce the luck needed

[@lovelyyyme8061]

Next Valir please, his brother 😫🙏

[@SabinShar]

I miss that old Vale 😢😢

[@papap9379]

i experimented vale as roamer with dire hit boots.
DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME
i mean RG

[@dgmojojojo]

The problem is now we dont get to choose between CC or dmg. We forced to be CC but the dmg is nerfed to oblivion. They should make the dmg is in somewhere in between those former options

[@yasai2247]

now u can use flicker at the same time of the 2nd skill btw instead of doing flicker then 2nd skill

[@haiffy]

Back then, i can just use skill 2 CC and skill 1 DMG + flameshot to kill mages/mm/assassin (assuming they have no magic res item), now, even with ult sometimes they even survive. And he can barely deal damage to tanks😢

[@lotuszen8690]

I don't understand why people complain the build I use on vale has stupid amount of damage Betosky build actually is bad on vale certain items don't work well on vale like before I'm one shooting all squishy heroes and tanks barely stay alive so pls don't say vale is more support now he is actually a beast now in proper hands

[@xoxolilyelle]

Do Vexana next, Beto. Her skill casting now is faster than before, that's why melee sustain hero mains are annoyed by her.

[@patsoy1329]

4:48 DIGGIE KILLED ARGUS? THIS IS STUPID

[@Monteraist]

No one notice diggie in egg form ks Beto at 6:46 😂😂

[@Aro04]

Video 125 of requesting Betosky to play Moskov

[@AbrahamNovpa]

Vale no have damage in early, and this can see in this video, vale use all combo with Miya and Miya still live, if another mm with dashes in skill this will be survived, the only you can kill the mage, MM and it if you have 2 or 3 level more than they
Sorry with my English

[@xvideos6851]

Minuto 6:49 diggie lo remata estando muerto lol es la primera vez que veo pasar eso jaja

[@Xelion1234]

Day 14 of asking Betosky to play Harith! (Help me I haven't slept for 2 nights)

[@usamakhalid136]

So which mage should I buy now, vexana or vale??

[@TheoLoiAveunalliv21]

We have the same build but i go lightning truncheon first coz of the mana