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- A quarter of a century after India secured a victory for the ages in the Kargil War, one of the most challenging high-altitude battles ever fought, the division which led the charge has another major reason to celebrate. Major General Sachin Malik is now commanding the 8 Mountain Division, which had led the charge in the Kargil War under the overall leadership of his father, General (Retired) VP Malik, who was the Army chief at the time. General VP Malik had also once commanded the 8 Mountain Division and the father and son are now in Dras to mark the 25th anniversary of the Kargil Vijay Diwas on Friday. That is where NDTV caught up with them for an exclusive conversation.
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Just came here after watchingl so many interviews of ex army men's who fought in Kargil war...they all are saying directly or indirectly that all higher chain of command and mostly generals are responsible for 500+ brave solider sacrifice.
Father surely is the major culprit of Kargil. Guy’s army lost hundreds of kilometers of India, with top Indian posts, to Pak. They didn’t have to fire even one shot. Nowhere else in the world.
Only possible in India, under Gen Malik.
Sir Gen Malik wasn't responsible , I think the Div commander and corps commander lt Gen kishan pal were the real culprits.
What are you smoking? We didn't lose any posts, we got all of them back and then some..
@@Rudraksh-ql4ce Indeed, Gen. Padmanabhan (who succeeded Gen. Malik as COAS) had identified a major gap as early as 1996 and as commander of XV Corps had ordered permanent deployment at Yaldor, but after he left Lt. Gen. Pal (Commander 3 Div) reassigned troops in 1998 for, among other things, catching wild animals for a zoo.
This guy covered up the mess and protected the generals who messed up in kargil. Due to which we lost so many brave heart. Dont put him in such high regards and read about the incompetent generals of kargil war
Field Marshal Kariiapa's son fought in 1965 war.
Jo frant pr forward se cmnd kre unhe sja or retirement Mila .....Jo headquarters me the wo major general......
Exactly, many Kargil heroes didn't got their due....jo jo Kargil war ke hero the unnko wo higher post nhi milli Jo office me baithne walon ko mili hai....
Wish All the best for 25th years of Kargil Diwas anniversary. The examples shown by our Armies under the command of then General VP Malik & Maj. General S Malik are commendable 🇮🇳
Both the Generals, father and son, are quite articulate.
The word articulate is not appropriate for this particular situation , no offence gentleman.
Both the Generals are exemplary 🎉...Jai Hind !!!
@@majormohommedalishahveteran Jai Hind sir , have been following you from a while now ( since the IMA POP video of yours with SM sir’s & his son ) . Thanks for spreading awareness and augmenting knowledge thru your content . Thanks for being a paragon of ARMY , looking forward to meet you if possible after getting into AFMC .
🙏🏼🇮🇳🙏🏼🇮🇳🙏🏼🇮🇳🙏🏼
Jai Hind🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Where was Sachin Malik in Kargil war? He would be a young major in Kargil War 1999, when his father was the Chief. Did sachin malik fight any battle during Kargil war? Did any other General's son or son in law fight any battle of Kargil?
Where was he posted at time of Kargil war ???????
@@rohitjasrotia4303 might have given leave by his father.
Salute for all soldiers india
This is a self glorification video at Govt expanse. Not even the CJI can indulge in such luxuries. The Major General son in this frame would have a young Major during Kargil War 1999. Which Kargil battle did he fight? Why is here to hog the glories of the mess the Generals under his father then landed the nation in.
We lost so many lives due to 3 Div Generals. I wonder why the Brig, Col, Lt Col, Major and Captains who fought the Kargil War were never promoted to the Ranks of Major General. Infact they were court martialed. I also want to know where Gen Sachin Malik was at the time of Kargil War? Was he in action? Why it's easier for a General's son to become a General? When Kargil War happend, Gen Malik was in Poland. General did not share intelligence with other Divisions/ Battalion and gave stupid order to reach the mountain top without having any cover. On top of it Govt decided not to cross the LOC. To me its a easy posting because of his background.
If you don't know something please don't talk about it. .K. Joshi commanded 13 JAK Rif (famous for winning 2 PVCs) and retired as Lt. Gen. Joshi. Mohindar Pratap Singh Bajwa commanded 27 Punjab and retired as a Brigadier. These are just a couple of examples.
And if you think commanding 8 Mountain Div is an "easy posting", you either don't know anything, or you are deliberately being a rabble rouser. In any case, it is pretty pathetic.
@@ninadbhave5133 I am not talking about easy or tough posting. I asked how many ended up being Generals ( Maj Gen, Lt Gen)? By giving one or two examples you cannot brush things under the carpet. And even in your example you did not find many and ended up mentioning about a Brig. Brig and below ranks were not given their dues abd were made scapegoats. What action is taken against the Corps commanders or Div Commanders in Kargil War. Why the earlier reports of Saurabh Kalia were not taken seriously? Where was Sachin Malik when Kargil happened...in HQ or in the field? Why Brig Devender Singh's plan worked more accurately and that too in quick time with less casualties. I know you there are some who do not learn from their mistakes.
@@amitbasra5276 OK, let me put it this way. Maybe that will help. Of around 15,000 Lieutenants, most become captains, of which 2/3 become majors, of which again 2/3 become Lt. Colonels and about the same ratio become Colonels. Then the pyramid gets steep. Of 5000 colonels, only 1/3 or about 1500 become Brigadiers, of which only 10% of 150 become Major Generals, and only half of those become Lt. Generals. Battles are almost never fought by people above Colonel rank because usually they're simply too old. In 1999 around 500 officers actually fought, of whom the lion's share would be Lieutenants, captains and majors, with a handful of Lt. Cols and Cols thrown in. Considering the above ratio, it is entirely logical that only about 2 Maj. Generals and 1 Lt. General would have emerged out of that fighting force, while the other 148 and 84 respectively would NOT have been participants. It's just simple math, and it holds.
You also have to understand that except for rare field promotions, accelerated promotions are not official policy in the Indian army, largely to shun a culture of glory hunting. That is the case in most professional standing armies by the way. Bravery is a given. Furthermore, please understand that the hire up you go, the more you have to be capable of a number of managerial capabilities. Just as not every brilliant engineer makes the beset VP of Engineering, and just as not every Sachin Tendulkar makes the best captain, similarly not every braveheart is suited for promotions to flag ranks! It is not about bravery; it is about suitability to the job.
This also happens at the highest levels. One of India's most brilliant generals, Lt. Gen. Harbaksh Singh did not get selected to be army chief. There are lots of conspiracy theories this was so because he was Sikh etc., but the simple fact of the matter is the person who did get selected was both senior to (came from an earlier Academy batch) and was also younger than Gen. Harbaksh. His name was Gen. SHFJ Manekshaw. Get the picture?
@@ninadbhave5133 ye badwa apni jameen china se le nahi pate aur bakwas karte sir bhot muskil posting hai muskil hai toh job chod de 😂😂
@@fcselenacabio First, army apne aap kuch nahi karti, sarkar ke hukm par karti hai. Second, China is a stronger adversary, no doubt about that. We are in a defensive position there. '62 ki debacle na repeat isliye our defensive stance has to be strong there. Itna aasaan hota toh POK le lete na! Pakis are a lot softer target than Chinese
Jai Hind 🇮🇳🙏
people who fought didn't get a promotion; I might be wrong, but did his son fight on any front in Kargil, assuming he might have been inducted at that time only under his watch, the Jammu and Kashmir region is again destabilising.
Your comment shows how little you know about Army and also have poor general knowledge. Promotion in army is not completely based on fighting.
@@Bawa3Sorry so called subedar sahab, My bad.
On a serious note, Shouldnt it based on merits and how many areas you covered in your tenure. We have seen many instances wherein we lost china war because of inexperienced generals, our inexperienced generals like gen mishra showed cowardice in 1965 and left his willy jeep to be captured by pakistanis. He ran like a rat.
Later on lahore was captured by another lietenant general despite orders of chief of staff for him retreat because he was afraid.l and than later on the general who captured lahore was not given gallantry but was awrded court of enquiry similar gen manekshaw by a coward called gen kaul.
The generalship history of indian army is not that great except certain superheors, like gen shabeg, cariappa, manekshaw , jacob etc.
Hence the tip generals in wars should be the ones who have seen war or fight and k ow the terrain like their childhood streets.
So keep your milatry mind to yourself and get a life.
Abmeri spellings par mujhe le ture mat dene aajana
my previous was deleted.may be because it was exposing the real faces of some of the generals. what a sham NDTV is
I remember Kargil - america backed Pakistan and Israel backed India. Israel is the 51st state of the USA. Do the math. Remember Iraq-Iran war, America backed Saddam and Israel supplied Weapons to Iran. Northgate
Thank you sir both of u from our heart
There is no lack of intelligence and surveillance during kargil wars.
Ex- Major Manish bhatnagar said initial information of occupation came out during February 1999..
But many of the generals didn't act accordingly.
They were sleeping in AC rooms of headquarters thinking occupiers were mujahid...
Proud Father Son❤
1999 war me agr vp malik general na hote toh 527 jawano ki jaan na jaati or kam casualties hoti😢
I see. I ask this with all due humble respect, agar aap unki jagah hote toh kya karte?
@@ninadbhave5133 unki jagah aur koi hota to Kam se kam resign dedeta agar Kam nahi karna ata toh aur Jo officers lada the unhe achi promotion deta 😂😂
@@fcselenacabio yun hawa mein batein mat karo. Please unn officers ke naam leejiye jinhe promotions milne chahiye the lekin nahi mile
Brig Devinder Singh mat kehna, unki sunwai ho chuki hai aur court ne unhe nyay de diya. aur batao
@@ninadbhave5133 mei to kha rhe ye kargil war ek bakwas chiz thi na hamne ek zameen ka tukda Paya bus apni jagah vapas Li me sirf india ka nuksan hua
o bhi 528 jawan kho kar ise
@@fcselenacabio LOC cross na karna ek strategic decision tha. It gave us the moral high ground and frankly ensured we got world support- the Israeli smart bombs for example, could never have come to us if the Americans had not given a green light. Americans would not have pressed Nawaz Sharif for unconditional withdrawal without it, especially if the war had expanded to the international border like in 1965. Taking back what was ours was always the objective and that was met. For Army also casualties would have been reduced if they could cross international border, but it was a political decision at the end of the day, and in retrospect if was the right one because India didn't have to contend with Pak army and air force etc. It also reduced the economic burden of the war. Not every correct political decision need be the most agreeable military decision. For example, in the Korean war in 1950, Gen. Macarthur recommended dropping 10 nuclear bombs on China to end the war, and at the time it was possible also since no one else had the weapons, but US president Truman negated it, fired the 5 star general, and continued the war for another 3 years conventionally. Militarily, a bad decision. Politically, the correct one.
Read about major manish bhatnagar
No General's son or son in law was wounded or killed in Kargil War. In fact aken out of enemy's range of fire. Somehow on attaining seniority they become Generals without fighting any real battles as do progeny of ordinary civilians and Colonel below officers. A young Major during Kargil war, Sachin Malik was posted out to a peace station. Re-emerged nevertheless as General Officer Commanding Kargil 8 Mountain Division. If one reads the profile of General VP Malik commissioned in 1959 and was a young officer during 3 wars 1962, 1965, 1971, there are no achievements as young officer as would any illustrious General have. However his list of achievements begin from Brigadier rank. Sab Gol Maal hai. From the very beginning to end. He protected every erring Kargil General including Zoo Orchestra Major General VS Budhwar, his hand picked man whose career suddenly rose after Malik became Chief in September 1997. There is some un holy nexus that cost the nation 527 brave hearts martyred and thousands wounded.
Jai Hind 🙏 19:16
This person was the killer of 528 soldiers. His generals was culprit for that. They have not provided the sufficient fascility to soldiers even the boots and winter clothing. They were used to say that only few intruders are there and pressurized the ground men colnel to attack. However those colnel were always tried to told them that the intruders are regular army person from pak army andthese generals were always in denied mode. All the generals in army are relative to each other and they have no war experice till today's.
aap...rehne hi do
@@ninadbhave5133 takle tu kya bjp ka it cell ka hai 😂😂
Bhatnagar produces “sit-reps” of the time reporting of intrusions in Jan-Feb, 1999, to rebut Gen. Malik’s claims.
Google "Should we believe General Malik?" and you will see the article by the famous B Raman of R&AW on Gen Malik's role in blaming IB/R&AW.
when i hear stories of unsung heroes like Maj Cheema and Brig Devinder singh... i feel not so good of these father son interviews... however atleast Gen Malik son went into the army and not take a flight to the US
we didn’t cross the LOC in kargil , our artillery shells did ~ gen VP malik sir . Jai Hind
Nepotism at its best ..General your father is responsible for all that blood shed
Excellent
Bhai bhateejawaad in Army too
Mehnat karke bane hai General vo, teri tarha nahi
8 Div is a brave Div. Hence a tremendous responsibility.
Self glorification 😂 start by the egoistic general good job general you betrayed your ground level commanders and hide the truth that you are such a careless person😂... You subordinates didn't like you
Nepotism
Pakistan vidraw the kargal war .then India comeback over post.
parvej mujraf beg Amrika, India kicked napak beghairat fauj, surrender army