This is what happened at Shiloh SDA church in Canada last sabbath
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- Sunday keeping pastor preached to Adventists at Shiloh SDA church in Canada about mission. Some Adventists are concerned about the invitation of non-Adventist preachers to feed them. watch video for details.
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SDA Pastor K!dn@pped on his way to baptize souls
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This happens for the people of God that are in that church to awake them,enough sleeping dear families.Remember satan turn himself into an angel of light means hes in church services(like this Pastors invitation for a non believer) and if we dont pay attention and be alert then theres no hope for our younger generations that rely on our leaders for guidance...God Bless
I'm not quite sure that I understand the shift of the SDA church. We are eager to invite None Adventist to our Pulpits, but yet we despise Present TRUTH Pastors who are sounding the trumpet. WHAT IS GOING ON??????. LET'S PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE SIGNS!!!!!!!!!!!.
I agree with 100%
You see the apostasy may GOD have mercy ous.
Apostolic
Sorry apostasy
You're very right sister!
This is the Shaking time we live in. Things that are happening are indicating that the Church of God is Shaking but it will not Fall. Through out the Ages there has always been a faithful people and always they will be, those that are trusting and faithful to God. Thank you very much bro Lawrence continue with your good work may God Almighty bless you. 🙏🙏
Let us not be surprised at these happenings in the church. It is the very end of time. A remnant will be saved from the remnant. The prophet of old thought he was the only faithful one among the people of Israel but God reassured him that he had 7000 faithful ones, apart from him
Already Fallen brother...UL315
North America is full of so many mysteries, we need to pray for our brother there,,May they read and listen to Jesus' advice to the Laodecian church
Northwest SDA churches and the conference, are choosing to walk with the world. I know longer belong to them. I watch Save to Serve or other ministries online. I am hoping to find churches that are not part of the conference in my state. We indeed need to pray for them, and ourselves to get right with Jesus. This is really sad.
That’s not the SDA church that I knew they’re 30 years ago.. that’s an other organization as sister EGW predicted… where is the remnants that should preach the third angel message! The day of the Lord is really at hand !
Maranatha!
Ellen white did indeed predict this would happen.
We need to be preaching the Three Angels Messages especially now that we are in the last days of this earth 🌍 Dear Lord Jesus Christ help us!!!
Amen. Indeed . I agree with you 100%
Wow trust in Christ Jesus message or the three angels message
You are lost dear, preach the gospel not only 3 angels msgs
@@andrewmaluwa2713 what is the difference between the gospel and 3 angels.. you can't preach gospel minus 3 angels.
Can not understand why a non SDA pastor is preaching in SDA pulpit in Canada? Do we lack preachers at that country?
Dear SDA members n leaders of Shiloh church, we r in the last days n shaking time n thr4, we hv to be very very careful. We hv our own good preachers, why invite or allow Non Adventist pastor to preached in our church? Church Manuel never allow or permit pulpit exchange with the Non Adventist. It's good to fear the Lord God n keep His commands
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Very very true
How can we who have the Three Angels message to preach to call men and women out of Babylon ,we are here mixing having non -adventist in our pulpit , preaching to us . This is unlike us , we are Seventh day Adventist. Let us stand up for what we believe . We have too many resources at hand for us to be doing this . The Pastor and officers have lost sight of their vision , they should be disciplined .
We were reminded and warned by the GC President about not allowing this to happen.
Indeed it's an embarrassment to this church. This was a watered down message.
@@MendezBasicMembers of that church need to step up! It is the duty of the members to enforce proper procedure and worship!
that two mouth Jesuit
This is not an attack, but obviously you believe that you and your salvation are better than, the "non-adventist". You don't see to understand that this is the type of thing that the enemy is using to divide the church. There is only one church. Do you believe that the new earth will be filled with adventists, baptists, lutherans etc. The Messiah called us to be his disciples.
Do you know that Saturday is not the true sabbath of scripture? Saturday is a pagan construct just like Sunday, Monday etc. These all come from a pagan counterfeit calendar. The true sabbath cannot be determined by pagan calendar. The true sabbath must fall on the 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th of the month. Also the new moons day is also a worship day but no one talks about that. See Isaiah 66:23; Amos 8:5. I know I wont get any likes but that is fine. Please study. There is too much ignorance and assumption.
Wooo, wooo unto you may God have mercy upon us as SDA 👀👀👀👀👀
Woe unto the Pastor that invited her. Woe unto all the church members that sat there and said nothing. Was there no SDA pastor to preach there? I can't!
That's the impact of SDA SHIFTING FROM ONE TRUE GOD TO TRINITY GOD ...we will see a lot ..we refused Holy Spirit and accepted god the holy spirit 😢
Even if you don’t have a pastor to preach on a sabbath I would prefer to read a book from sister white to the congregation
Why invite preacher who doesn't believe our doctrine?
Exactly
The funny thing abt it, judging from.your analysis of the sermon (i havnt watched it myself) is that this woman preached a better sermon than many so called SDA pastors who have rejected the 3 angels message.
Having said that, the decision to invite a nonSDA to preach on sabbath is not supported by the bible or sop. However it is not a simple thing. These decisions are 99% calculated. They are done to :
1. Promote women "pastors"
2. Promote ecumenism
3. Demonstrate the defiance of the new class of pastors and church administrators who run the show and do not adhere to the 3 angels messages, core doctrines, or spirit of prophecy...and accordingly do whatever they want to do.
Etc
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The 1% possible alternative is that it is a demonstration of lukewarmness ...where those who did the invitation genuinely think this is totally fine...and persons of that persuasion are just as dangerous as the defiant apostates within. ...because both accomplish the same ends coming from different perspectives.
Another interesting thing is that many of these SDA churches and conferences will block the invitation of legitimate 3 angels message preaching adventist pastors and speakers who are invited to speak...but have no problem inviting sunday speakers to take the pulpit. Sad state of affairs.
This is but the beginning...things 100 time worst are to come shortly. Fasten your seatbelt.
How can the church telling people to come out of Babylon and at the same time having Babylon on pulpit preaching?
Very true you've said it
Even total take over of. Beast got his foot in the door.
2Cor 6:14-18.
Amen 100 percent agreement with you
Sincerely what in the world is a none Adventist pastor doing at the Adventist pulpit?
Lord Forgive Us For We Know Not What We Do!😢
This church are definitely not reading spirit of prophecy!!! 😮
Okay,in Zimbabwe we have gone to preach to other people's church ,however we have not had 1 come to preach to us,because they have nothing to preach to us
Good question! Shame on those members for not speaking out! I definitely would as soon as I heard anything nonbiblical. But likely I would ask why anyway.
I'm very outspoken at my church, haha. They know I will call out any nonsense and I expect them to do the same to me if I say anything out of turn! 😂
@@AndorDavis-cb6jwSome reject the Spirit of Prophecy
Regarding the invitation to have non-SDA preachers in our pulpits, let me ask these questions: Were pagan preachers allowed in the sanctuary established by God through Moses? Did Jesus appoint any Gentiles among the 12 or the 70 to preach in the temple during His day? If God changes not, and if Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever, would he approve of someone shepherding His people who was not converted themselves? What does the bible call that type of shepherd?
Definitely not
Acts 20:29,30.
Very well said!!!!
What happened to our church?
End of time
The Church died out .. There’s a small portion still awaken to preach the 3 Angels message
@@barbaravalmont3857 don't worry, the gates of hell shall not prevail against the church. Jesus said it
That is what happens when you have lazy pastors within the SDA church, who refuse to do what God has
ordained them to do.
Many years ago the pastor knew his church members. Today, I have found that most pastors and conferences only care about tithes and offering. They refuse to be the spiritual leaders of the church.
So they don't want some SDA ministers who are preaching Present Truth, but non Sabbath keepers who are in darkness can cone and teach God's people. She is also a female pastor. Where did that come from, not from God.
Sadly yes..
Can’t wait to hear Pastor James from Kenhurst SDA to give his take on this.
He's a compromizer
@@blessedlove3018yes very bias
I would like to know what this Pastor thinks of S D A message , is she willing to accept the Sabbath and bring in the Sunday keepers to become a member of the S D A church? Or does she think that Adventist is not witnessing enough to the of CANADA? Or is she on a mission to break up the S D A church, the Sabbath keepers need to be careful about their beliefs and who they are, and not to let people drown them out of their precious messages, may the Lord have mercy on us all 🙏.
The people of CANADA.
@@jacquelinewilliams8541I wouldn’t say the people of Canada because their are a lot of present truth their. Many people watch Save to Serve, and many other present truth pastors. It seems the conference in Oregon, California, Washington State, Canada, and some others in different states and counties have lost sight of the three angels messages, and are walking in line with Sunday churches. They want to wear pants, makeup, drink wine, and do other things that Sunday churches do they just want leave the SDA stamp on the title, and worship on Saturday’s. We are suppose to be set apart, mimicking a Sunday church is not set apart it is conforming to their ways. I do know that there will be many Sunday people with Christ, and; I do believe many SDA’s will be burning as well if we don’t change our ways. SDA’s as a whole need prayer.
So a people who purpots to have biblical truth inviting people with meager bible truth to come and minister to them. Walking from light to darkness,may God have mercy on us we are provoking the holy spirit of God.
We are possessing of an abundance of truth, but lack the Spirit. That's why she was invited.
She's nervous talking.in God pulpits she's got nothing to talk about we got the truth tell her about Sabbath.
So sad she should not be speaking what is the Purpose?Darknee May the LORD have mercy on us Adventist what about SIN women have almost taken over all the churches Adventist also as pastors preaching Why what about the truth of GOD’s word
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any day that happen in the church I go,i would walk out and never return
Sincerely what a non Adventist female Pastor with earring in our pulpit . Disrespect to SDA !
And disrespect to God
Disrespect to SDA? Our pulpit? What about God?
Abomination of desolation.
Amen i agree
She sounds exactly like the charismatic churches I used to attend only 4 years ago. The churches I left to come to the SDA and learn the truth. The modern music she speaks of is hypnotic and that is its intention to bring you to a state where you are open to your emotions rather than to the Holy Spirit. Also women are not to preach in the church and they are not to be ordained as Elders or Deacons. God will not excuse those who willingly ignore His instruction in His word. The modern women is rebellious and proud. She must be humble and play her role as designed by God and follow instruction according to the word, just as the man is to lead and teach.
1 Corinthians 14
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
My Brother in Christ , How can you preach on something that you don’t believe .Sunday worshippers don’t believe in the Sabbath Commandment . We should be preaching to them Amen .
When a church has no message there is no mission and the church will die. Praise God SDA church we have the message Present Truth to share with the world . Explains why we have world evangelism and every church is a center for evangelism! No time to loose and waste time having non SDA speakers tell us about mission !
You are right brother Lawrence. I still don't
understand or what's the purpose they have this none SDA on the pulpit.
The oecumenism is doing its way brother
Signs òf the times are everywhere.
That's how deception can easily immersed into the church
No Bible text ro support. No Spirit of Prophecy, no law of God. She gave a good speech
Jesus said, "If I be lifted up, I will draw all men/mankind to me." We're to preach the straight testimony. 😢
This last Sabbath, the minister preached predestination, and next Sabbath, we have a Pentecost minister giving the sermon. I don't know if I'm in a Seventh-day Adventists church anymore. Most of the members don't even know our fundamental beliefs anymore. Neither do our young pastors. They're preaching the same garbage.
They sure are. This is not right.
We simpathyze with you.. watch STS international in times of need you'll be edified
Which church so we can call them out?
Remember when the SDA were given the same sermon to be taught through out the world. That was great. Miss that.
I also miss our hymnal.
Matt 24:15 "when you see the abomination of desolation in a holy place, those who read know!! And those who read must have a prophet of God among them Judges 4:4-9;2Kgs 6:11-20. Where there's no vision the people perish Pro 29:18.
Praise the lord we all need to preach the word of God to the world and fulfill his mission and wait for the second coming of Christ
What is the purpose of this message at this terrible time, when we should preparing for the coming of Jesus who ever invited her, has been misled by Satan 🎉
Why invite another preacher in SDA church???
Because " they " are asleep. Matt 25
They don't believe what we believe in the Bible
Questions:
Who is the pastor of this Shiloh SDA Church that gave the pulpit to this lady on a Sabbath Worship time?
Did the Ontario SDA Conference leaders invited her to Shiloh?
Or, is this a members' demand?
Adventist already becoming Babylon that's why they allow the Babylon preacher to their pulpit......
Can two walk together except they agree. What does light have to do with darkness?
One day eyes will be opened to the real truth and those people will walk out .
What is she saying? What is the message? What is happening in our churches??
God's true people will not remain there where apostasy is happening
Inevitable since the prophecy must be fulfilled.
Indeed
Brother Lawrence, her message was very relevant but we know as Adventists the dangers of women Pastors ”leadership” and they do not accept our biblical truths or they would preach what we know from the Bible to be true, so we absolutely can not have apostate Sunday preachers, pastors, elders nothing preach in our pulpits it will start a precedent that will slide paganism into our church, we are tripping, God help us wake up!! WE SLEEP!!!!
Brother Lawrence is also a seventh day Adventist pastor
When we invite Babylonians into our pulpits, we forfeit our message of "come out of her, my people." There are no greater threats from God himself than the 7 last plagues for those who receive the MOB, and yet we pretend that the worst warning from God is just a joke. My question is, how could you EVER give this woman a great controversy or National Sunday Law book if you have literally just told her, there's no big deal between Sunday and Saturday. Lord have mercy.
If the third Angel message was preaching in the sda churches first day woman pastor could never come into our church telling them foolish foolishness I have nothing to say about this lady blind leading blind Lord help us Jesus
Amen
What was foolish that she said? I agree that we must be careful about the handling of the pulpit and who stands behind it.
@@anng7514 she seems to be a nice lady and I will never judge her but I know truth so I will not accept any and anything from any one but the Old King James Bible and the spirit of prophecy and the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Keep pressing on my brother 🙏🏾🙏🏾 like it or not the truth is the truth
What truth are you speaking of? You heard nothing wrong with the Sunday pastor's sermon?
It is sad to see our brothers and sisters so blind that they can no longer see what an error this was.
They search for light and guidance, they search for the annointing of the Holy Spirit from those who are in darkness themselves.
They should be preaching to her and her congregation the 3 angels message.
What next someone speaking in their so called tongues and rolling around on the floor
Am blessed to see them happening as I was taught on growing proverbs 22-6 .
If I was in that sda church on that sabbath morning, she couldn't preach I would stand up and said who are u coming to preach to us ??then I would have walked away by the grace of God .in jewelry??come on people open your eyes. Don't give the any power over u😢😮.
Exactly!! I can’t believe none of those members felt convicted about this!
The time SDA church agreed to change the identity banner to replace with the Catholic logo with the cross everything went wrong . 1T578
Yes the pulpit is sacred, but those who preach from the pulpits of the Seventh-day Adventist churches are baptized members of the Seventh-day Adventist Church and are members of the church. It is not for those who are not baptized into the Seventh-day belief... keep the sacredness of the pulpits..
Narrow mindedness
well she was talking about spreading the gospel as outlined by paul and the apostles. if you have an issue with that because you believe we have a different message to share than that would be a different gospel Galatians 1:6-12
also she said the lord had put something on her heart all that means is that there is something on her mind she feels compelled to talk about. that doesn't mean that the lord gave her a vision...sorry if you're not familiar with this phrase.
Jesus is just around the corner an we have to have s personal relationship with christ
RED FLAG!!!!!!!! GIVE HER THE GREAT CONTROVERSY AND NATIONAL SUNDAY LAW BOOKLET WITH THE HEALTH MESSAGE
Plus keep praying for her, much more the blind servant who invited another blind servant Isaiah 42:18-20.
Not her. GIVE THE GC TO SHILOH PASTOR FOR HIM TO READ. DONT BLAME THE LADY. BLAME THE PASTOR.
@@evelynedwards-mw2xq the pastor Jere 13:23.
That pastor need more than the great controvesy
Praise our good Lord, mercy, mercy, hold on the truth that was preached before, I my self ,I shall never forget the ancient gospel, unlike for these End times.We were warned before.Stay blessed children of God.
Question: what did the Guest Pastor preached that was contradictory to the Holy Scriptures or The Spirit of Prophecy?
I'd like to know if the members of this church stay to hear the pastor non SDA
why this preacher keep saying Halleluja to a Negative thoughts, does she know the meaning of Halleluja??
😂😂
I don't understand why the 7 The adventist church will do such a thing.
What's going on in our church nowadays? What is we are lacking good pastors? I don't think so.
End of time
You mean that SDAs are independent where by no other preachers from other denominations can come and preach to you
Oooh pharisees
Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth...
Ecumenical enforcement.
My concerns as SDA Church member for 49 years.in year 2004.. when GC introduce women ministry as one of the department into SDA Church all around the world.thats where it allows women to become Elders and pastor's and ordination of the women so who allows it..I for one,I always disagree on this issues..so I only fear God who will destroy my soul with fire....not man and men make decisions.i follow the Bible and Bible along.. thank you brother for sharing this video... God bless you. 🙏🙏🙏
The problem is trinity ..refusing the ONLY ONE TRUE GOD, ALSO REFUSING THAT JESUS IS THE REALLY SON OF GOD AND HOLY SPIRIT and accepting god the holy spirit 😢
What is interesting is that my pastor at my church will not allow me to preach because i believe the 3 angels message 😂😂 yet they allow non Adventist preachers🤣🤣
She did not say anything that a local elder could not say , we should use our own , they are all trained to do this , whenever the Pastor is not able .I do hope that someone help her to understand what we SDA believe . We must be different , and show it.
She is wearing jewelry, a bad example from the pulpit of seventh day Adventist.
But "They " are asleep . Matt 25
She was ok with not praying imagine that. She said herself you need to ne careful who you invite to your pulpits. You dont see and SDA preaching in her church. She wouldnt allow it if the 3 angels message with dress, food, reform was brought to her pulpit. Its one thing if someone forgot to pray which would also be a sign that they dont have a relationship thats genuine with the Lord. But to boldly say that she needs not to pray is another level. Someone should habe stood up and said something. Are there no man of God there?
Someone help tell me, is that a cross on the left of the pulpit??
Is that music in the background from the church musicians?
Question: what will the converted soul do/think when they see their old Sunday pastor preaching on the Sabbath in a different church with the same charisma and doctrine to what hey we're used to?
I believe it's high time we searched our souls as SDAs. we've believed to have a monopoly over truth for so long that we're ready to reject it just because we see it with the 'Them, Us' attitude. It reminded me of the Israelites. at the end of the day, they rejected Jesus and Jesus told them God's salvation was for the Gentiles as well.
Brother can u make a presentation about keeping cross with decoration in church as iam seeing on right side of preacher? What its significance and is it necessary to keep to remind us that we need christ? We we are not allowed to wear a cross then what is the important of keeping cross in church or in church premises. Jesus Lord said that "“Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.”
- Matthew 5:16 (KJV)". So ........ thanks
Without a vision the people perish. We are the people called to give the Loud Cry of Revelation 14, being taught how to do mission from a Pulpit consecrated to the preaching of the Truth by someone of a different denomination. Mercy!
Was there a verse in her semorn?
Why would we need a Non-Adventist in our pulpit to speak on Mission?
This is terrible !!!! Where were ELDERS? This is a shaking time please be careful
Is the SDA still one body of Christ in the last days in which we are ? Or this body has been broken unto different parts?
The mission of the church is to prepare a people to stand in vindication of the Character of God. Evangelism is secondary to this.
When the character of Christ is perfectly reproduced amongst his people, only then will the mission be completed. We have derailed from this, Evangelism must be done in this context... it's not the main thing, but a sub theme under the main
The church will truly not fall but it’s who will truly triumph with the church.
I felt that pastor did not really have anything to say. She wouldn't have been invited if SDAs didn't have doubts about their own fundamental beliefs such as EGW, the Remnant Church, the Investigative Judgment, and a future Sunday Law.
seems like our GENERAL CONFERENCE MANTRA and DIOP
BELIEVE GOD - WITHOUT A BELIEF - LAWS
BELIEVE JESUS - WITHOUT A BELIEF - LAWS
We need not be surprised about such developments. Such things are bound to happen. We need to understand that the time is up.
She fell down at the start in her glaring support of jewelry and next in not kneeling and committing herself to the lord in prayer. What a miserable display for our children in that audience
You know it cannot be a Spirit led church if there's a cubicle for the Drumset next to the pulpit..
So those people in that Shiloh church they are refusing or they have failed to carry out the work that God gave them to do, it's so solemn 😢
The time we are in only those who are truth and straight will receive the seal of God
To preach is no problem but the voice and principle of the church is needed 🙏
She's a woman she's not supposed to be preaching she doesn't have a message she should not be in the pulpit at all ,not even with the 3rd angels message ,she need figure stay in Babylon with her foolishness bedtime story
It’s happened many times before. I first became a seventh day Adventist approximately 25 years ago. it’s been happening throughout those 25 years. Apparently, there’s nothing new under the sun.
To all who have already commented, my question is: " what is wrong with the message she preached"?
And what is the sin in inviting a non Adventist Pastor to preach an inspirational message like this? Just because, she is non Adventist? Come on, my brethren!
Our doctrine is different. All it takes is a foot in the door.
Inspirational, how? Have you ever heard a sermon from a good adventist pastor?Lord forgive us !! Surely do Dear Jesus. We are drifting away.
We have our fundamental believe. Today it will be a little truth then tomorrow mixed it with deception
Personally i have been blessed with Sunday keeping preachers, such as Dr Charles Stanley, but i have no idea what this lady is saying.
Its a shame adventist church is inviting Sunday keeping preachers to preach in our churches.
The adventist churches are fallen.
I think that the Pastor of that church has not heard about the book called The "Bible",or the great masterpiece called "Evangelism", by Aunty Ellen
This is not anything new for me! My church have invited this Sunday preacher from a neighboring church to stand and preach in our pulpit for years periodically.
I expressed my concerns, but the people I spoke with did'nt see it as a problem🙏
The only thing left for Shiloh Church to do now is to invite An LGBTQ+++ PERSON and THE POPE TO PREACH AT THEIR CHURCH
Imagine that,Jesus is really on his way, thank God we not going to heaven as a church.
Alot of what she said is sadly about us in the SDA church we have indeed made peace with alot of things we shouldn't have including having someone who does not believe the same as we do to preach to members. This was not a cummunity event its just sad. We continue to compromise and we need to stop.😢 wont surprise me if the church start preaching marrying non believers etc
Be careful who we bring to our pulpit?
God transcends doctrines (John 4:23). In our world today, Christians have allowed doctrines to create division. In God's eyes, distinctions like Sunday or Saturday believers hold no weight; we are all one, followers of Christ. As John 14:6 states, our Messiah declared, 'I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one reaches the Father except through me.' (It never implies exclusion based on adherence to a specific doctrine.) Let us prioritize our true purpose rather than pleasing men. Thank you, Bro Lawrence.
You can remain alone are we heading to the shaking time or short time of trouble..?
but there was no message in her presentation we dont need compromise, what was the main idea i mean the difference in it??
Our father have mercy on us what has entered into our leaders surely how much are safe from the deceiver?
It's called compromise. This quarters lesson study is very timely. Look for the way marks .
Jesus said let us do this so that it’s proper and not a stumbling block and as en sample ❤. It’s truly correct that many Adventist will not be saved possibly even me if I quit carrying my cross